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KnAAZ this year will supply the military 10 fighters Su-35С

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Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation factory (KnAAZ) them. This year Gagarina will transfer 10 Su-35S fighters to the aerospace forces, as well as supply 36 Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft sets to Sukhoi Civil Aircraft, TASS message of the press service of the government of the Khabarovsk Territory.




This year it is planned to deliver ten Su-35С fighters for the Russian HQs. For Komsomolsk-on-Amur branch of JSC “Sukhoi Civil Aircraft” the aircraft factory will produce 36 aircraft kits for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliner,
quoted by the press service of the Governor Vyacheslav Shport.

KnAAZ is a branch of the Sukhoi Company (part of the United Aircraft Building Corporation), it produces Su-35С, Su-35, Su-30 fighter jets, and also works on the promising Su-57 front-line aviation complex (T-50). Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft are assembled in its squares.

Last year, the plant began to fulfill the order of the Ministry of Defense for the construction of 50-ti Su-35C fighters of the 4 ++ generation. In the period from 2009 to 2015, the company has already supplied 48 vehicles to the military.

In addition, the plant is planning to launch the 2031 of the 595 of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft.

Earlier, KNAAZ director Alexander Pekarsh said that the gross output of the aircraft plant in 2017 was projected at 60 billion rubles, which is 5 billion more than a year earlier.
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ru.wikipedia.org/Vitaly V. Kuzmin
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 August 2017 16: 34
    +5
    And how many SU-35s will the VKS from other industries get? The total number of 35s and 30s that will go to the videoconferencing system this year is interesting.
    1. Resident of mordor
      Resident of mordor 21 August 2017 16: 35
      +18
      Not much. KnAAZ is an exclusive manufacturer.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 August 2017 16: 40
        +6
        Probably more will go to China than to his native army.
        1. user1212
          user1212 21 August 2017 17: 01
          +4
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Probably more will go to China than to his native army.

          China is also 10 according to plan this year
      2. I am on my own
        I am on my own 21 August 2017 17: 43
        +3
        Paragraph. There is one manufacturer for the whole of Russia. In fact, one “Ax” and all that? belay
        1. Damir
          Damir 21 August 2017 18: 17
          +6
          In fact, one "Ax"

          You are right ... and that’s it ... absolutely ... for it is aggression against an independent sovereign State that owns atomic weapons .... therefore YES .... a strong many-kilo hello will fly in response to the ax ... so no channel is possible Nicaragua is no longer needed ...
          1. MadCat
            MadCat 22 August 2017 00: 07
            +4
            Quote: Damir
            in response to the ax, a strong many kilo hello will fly ... yes so maybe no channel will be needed in Nicaragua ...

            Well, if you agree not to use nuclear weapons, you are not considering such an option? for reference in the war against Hitler, the Red Army did not use chemical weapons, although it was ... and the Wehrmacht did not dare to do so.
            1. Damir
              Damir 22 August 2017 08: 47
              +1
              if the Nazis used chemical weapons. you would get the same chemical greetings in full growth !!!!!! troops remained prepared for a chemical war to the last !!! to agree not to use nuclear weapons ours will not !!!! on the contrary, the military doctrine says that in an attack on Russian territory the answer will be ALL means including nuclear !!!
              1. MadCat
                MadCat 22 August 2017 17: 28
                0
                Quote: Damir
                on the contrary, military doctrine says

                the decision will not be for Zina with the doctrine, but for the supreme commander in chief, if he decides then they will not apply anything.
                1. Damir
                  Damir 22 August 2017 19: 05
                  +1
                  Well, everything seems to be fine with the Supreme Commander in Chief ??? and the late Slobodan Milosevic (peace be upon him) by his example showed that in no case should you do .....
    2. newcomer
      newcomer 21 August 2017 16: 48
      +5
      what about next year? the article so affectionately flowed onto the ss100 that something bad was thought.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 21 August 2017 16: 52
        +9
        what about next year? ... that something bad was thought.


        everything is lost. Putin leaked
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 21 August 2017 16: 54
          +7
          you are seen under some sort of impression. you are not to me.
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 21 August 2017 17: 13
            +1
            St Petrov Today, 16: 52 ↑ New
            what about next year? ... that something bad was thought.
            everything is lost. Putin leaked

            newcomer Today, 16: 54 ↑ New
            you are seen under some sort of impression. you are not to me.

            YES WHAT ARE YOU SO PERCEPTING EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY? The man pinned a little - today is a sap day, Monday is called.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 21 August 2017 17: 23
              +3
              Well, if so, then drove through.
            2. Neputin
              Neputin 21 August 2017 21: 33
              0
              Our "patriots" have a hard day. They should work ...
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 21 August 2017 17: 01
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      And how many SU-35s will the VKS from other industries get? Interesting is the total number of 35s and 30s that

      The gait of the lope Su 30 MKI and how many eurofighters fly. There are more dryers. The main news. In our park Elk Island, a real wandered elk. Everyone will look at him, as if it’s a wonderful miracle, and he is hawking nettles
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 21 August 2017 17: 04
        +5
        corner of wildlife at the VO. it's great.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 21 August 2017 17: 12
          0
          Quote: newbie
          corner of wildlife at the VO. it's great.

          The film Father of the soldier saw? There they looked at the elephant for two minutes, and then in a second they released their clips into each other
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 21 August 2017 17: 43
            +4
            saw. you are straight mysterious, some kind. dear man, decipher your message. Is everything good on your island?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 21 August 2017 20: 50
              +1
              Quote: newbie
              decrypt your message. Is everything good on your island?

              Unblocking, it’s free, so I’m chewing it - alas, not everything is safe. We built bike paths that the forest is quickly ending and there will not be enough moose. In general, uzhoz and FSE are bad. More than fifty Su-35s have already been shot by one. laughing
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 21 August 2017 21: 13
                +3
                sorry for the puffer.
      2. MadCat
        MadCat 22 August 2017 00: 14
        +3
        Quote: Tusv
        The gait of the lope Su 30 MKI and how many eurofighters fly. There are more dryers. The main news. In our park Elk Island, a real moose wandered. Everyone will look at him, as if it’s a wonderful miracle, and he is hawking nettles

        order for 748, in the troops of 508 eurofighter.
        As of 2014, 60 Su-30SMs were ordered for the Russian Air Force (16 vehicles delivered — 3 to the Chkalov GLIC, 3 to the Lipetsk Air Center, 10 to the Domna Air Base near Chita), and 8 aircraft for the Russian Navy, all of them became part of the naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet [39]. In 2015, the RF Ministry of Defense ordered eight more aircraft for the Russian Navy with delivery in 2016-2017 [40]. In 2016, a contract was signed for the supply of 28 vehicles for the Russian Armed Forces and 8 units for the Russian Navy until the end of 2018. [41]. October 30, 2016 in Irkutsk made its first flight the next two-seat multi-purpose fighter Su-30SM, designed for the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy, received its own name "Irkutsk". In service at the beginning of November 2016 there are: Su-30M2 - 20, Su-30SM - 71, Su-35S - 48.
        The SU-35 of the Russian Air Force has more than 60 combat units and 2 units for static tests, as of April 2017.
        looked.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 August 2017 01: 20
          +1
          “I am building at the beginning of November 2016: Su-30M2 - 20, Su-30SM - 71, Su-35S - 48.
          Russian Air Force SU-35 over 60 combat units "

          That is, in Russia in 2017 in the ranks of 160 modern fighters.
          Not thick ... but not empty.
    4. Esoteric
      Esoteric 21 August 2017 18: 46
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      The total number of 35s and 30s that will go to the videoconferencing system this year is interesting.

      But, now, I wonder how long in Russia the interests of the Army and Navy will satisfy at this pace? belay To compare where we are going ...
      I just read one was built there ... here they got two ... they sent three to them ... And, most importantly, the years of satisfaction from 2025 to 2035 ... stop Yes, for 35 years in the USSR they were able to build an industrial society, defeat the whole of Europe in the war, restore the national economy after the war and create weapons that saved us from death ...
      1. user1212
        user1212 21 August 2017 19: 15
        +3
        Quote: Esoteric
        Yes, for 35 years in the USSR they were able to build an industrial society

        So there were no forums. That would be all the love for the motherland from the pages of VO and in the shop! laughing
        Yes, and aircraft today are more complicated than wooden whatnots. Compare the production rates of P51 from WWII and F35 today
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 August 2017 19: 39
        +5
        Quote: Esoteric
        Yes, for 35 years in the USSR they were able to build an industrial society, defeat the whole of Europe in the war, restore the national economy after the war and create weapons that saved us from death ...

        There is one thing but ... there were 15 republics and industrial power is not an example of today. Do not equal the capabilities of one Russia, with the power and potential of the USSR. hi
        1. kotuk_ha_oxote
          kotuk_ha_oxote 21 August 2017 19: 54
          +2
          That is, the power of an agrarian country that survived the civil war 8 years before, allowed the USSR to carry out industrialization and collectivization, and does Tajikistan have enough current Kremlin flavors for this?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 21 August 2017 19: 59
            +6
            Quote: kotuk_ha_oxote
            That is, the power of an agrarian country that survived the civil war 8 years before, allowed the USSR to carry out industrialization and collectivization, and does Tajikistan have enough current Kremlin flavors for this?

            A lot of things are missing ... for example, human resources. There is not enough financial power, the dedication of the people themselves, cooperation with the republics, but is there FORCED import substitution, the breakdown of production ties, corruption, and so on ... do you have enough?
          2. sdc_alex
            sdc_alex 21 August 2017 20: 37
            +4
            Quote: kotuk_ha_oxote
            That is, the power of an agrarian country that survived the civil war 8 years before, allowed the USSR to carry out industrialization and collectivization, and does Tajikistan have enough current Kremlin flavors for this?


            And you personally, over the past month, how long did it stand at the machine? How many standards have been met?
            Or maybe in the "sharashka Beryevskaya" working for the good of the country.
            In addition, ZK now do not dig Belomorkanals and do not build DneproGES ... (which is in vain).
            And the people are now completely different, different mores, needs, and indeed ... the country is different.
            1. kotuk_ha_oxote
              kotuk_ha_oxote 24 August 2017 06: 44
              +1
              2 norms are stably fulfilling. But the economic condition of rushki is not improving from this. Apparently, it's not about me.
              1. sdc_alex
                sdc_alex 24 August 2017 06: 49
                0
                apparently not the onesnorms"do wink Yes, and for some rashki negative
                1. kotuk_ha_oxote
                  kotuk_ha_oxote 24 August 2017 20: 55
                  0
                  That is, if he complied with those norms, then the frets would become comparable in quality to Toyota, the asphalt would cease to be laid in puddles, and the commanders would learn to lead the country and industries?
                  1. sdc_alex
                    sdc_alex 25 August 2017 07: 14
                    0
                    Of course! You try, I'm sure you will succeed. wink
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 21 August 2017 23: 55
          +1
          Well, more than 60% of the total power of the USSR was in the RSFSR. In heavy industry and engineering, about 70%, in basic science and in the military-industrial complex in the region of 80%. And only in agriculture the RSFSR accounted for about 50%.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 22 August 2017 01: 09
            +2
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Well, more than 60% of the total power of the USSR was in the RSFSR.

            Seriously? laughing And excuse me, where did the whole union feed from? And did you get dressed? And where did you get oil and gas from? That is, in your opinion, the RSFSR plowed, and all the others on the sidelines smoked and didn’t do anything.
            These numbers are pure water lies. Cooperation of the republics, even in heavy industry, where did they do it? Or were they all released in the RSFSR? Then where are we import substituting from now? Do not write a frank heresy. To feed, defend and dress one defender, you need from 7 to 12 civilian production workers, dear. And if they are not there, then the defender will stupidly bend. So do not be smart here ...
            At the same time, our defense industry in the USSR was not like the Russian one now ... we competed on an equal footing with the entire NATO bloc, but in some places we were ahead. So, an example ... How many east did they build? And now let's remember the construction of Baikonur .... We have built hydroelectric power plants in record time, and now the Kerch bridge is sitting, mumbling ...
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 23 August 2017 20: 35
              0
              What are you boiling? Quite seriously. This figure, 60%, was even official in Soviet textbooks of economic geography. Pupils of grades 8–9 studied tables in which the share of all union republics and economic regions of the USSR in the total volume of production was shown. As natural indicators, and in rubles. And in the annual reports of the Central Statistical Bureau clearly indicated the share of each republic in the economic indicators of the USSR. Send you scans? I think you will find it without me. And the share of the RSFSR in the GNP (GDP) of the USSR was a little over 60%. The share of Ukraine is 17%. The share of Kazakhstan is about 9%. The figures are approximate, I write from memory.
              Oil and gas since the mid 60s. also mainly mined in the RSFSR. Azerbaijan (oil), Turkmenistan (gas), Uzbekistan (gas) also had a large share in this area.
              I do not think the rest did not work. But this is an undeniable fact, the RSFSR in its potential exceeded all other republics by one and a half times. Which is not surprising, given that it accounted for three quarters of the territory and more than half the population of the USSR. And the leading universities, research centers and design bureaus were mainly located on its territory. Ukraine had a large share in the military-industrial complex, machine building, and science (Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk occupied a prominent position), but it was more than three times smaller than the Russian Federation, and no one ever hid this.
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 23 August 2017 20: 37
                0
                By the way, the main part of the famous chernozems was also in the Russian Federation, and not, as many people think, in Ukraine.
    5. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 21 August 2017 21: 46
      0
      One plant makes Su35S, another Su30SM, the third Su-34 ... all. pieces of 10-15 per year.
  2. Alexander War
    Alexander War 21 August 2017 16: 45
    +1
    Even a little less squadron per year sad
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 21 August 2017 16: 51
      +1
      And you are not confused by the fact that they still produce the Su-30 and Su-34? Count the total.
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 21 August 2017 16: 55
        +4
        KnAAZ produces only Su-35S! Since the Su-34 and Su-30SM are assembled in Irkutsk in Novosibirsk
        1. user1212
          user1212 21 August 2017 17: 10
          +3
          Quote: Alexander War
          KnAAZ produces only Su-35S

          Su 57 (PAK FA) and SSJ. Su 30MK2 was still produced
          1. FID
            FID 21 August 2017 17: 47
            +3
            Quote: user1212
            Su 57 (PAK FA) and SSJ. Su 30MK2 was still produced

            It's you for nothing .... PAKs are not yet mass-produced, and the OTHER company is releasing the superjet. We are talking about KnAAZ ...
            1. user1212
              user1212 21 August 2017 19: 11
              0
              Quote: SSI
              PAK still not mass-produced

              Well, non-serial aircraft on trees do not grow. They also need to produce. Do you not know wink
              Quote: SSI
              and another company launches a superjet

              The company is different, but the factory is the same
        2. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 21 August 2017 20: 53
          +1
          You mixed up a little 30- in Irkutsk, 34- in Novosib
        3. The comment was deleted.
      2. user
        user 21 August 2017 16: 58
        +4
        And you are not confused by the fact that they still produce the Su-30 and Su-34?


        Su-34 produces Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalova
    2. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 21 August 2017 16: 56
      +1
      But the price of the squadron is like a whole regiment. It is also necessary to understand.
      1. sdc_alex
        sdc_alex 21 August 2017 20: 41
        0
        Quote: Roma-1977
        But the price of the squadron is like a whole regiment. It is also necessary to understand.

        But what do you explain to him, he wants something like in the USSR - a five-year plan in two days, but at the expense of "someone else" laughing
  3. san4es
    san4es 21 August 2017 17: 26
    +7
    KnAAZ this year will supply the military 10 fighters Su-35С

    (2.25 min figure - not likely belay )

    Technical specifications
    The crew is 1 people.
    Max speed at low altitudes - 1400 km / h.
    Speed ​​at high altitudes - 2500 km / h.
    Flight range: at an altitude of 3,6 km - 4500 km, at an altitude of 200 m - 1580 km.
    Run length: with a parachute for braking, normal take-off weight, application of brakes - 650 m, take-off run with full afterburner - 450 m.
    Ceiling - 20 kilometers.
    Rate of climb - 280 m / s
    The wingspan is 14,75 m.
    An empty aircraft has a mass of 19 t, a working take-off mass is 25 t, a maximum mass is 34 t, fuel loading is 11 t.
    Engines: turbojet weighing 1520 kg, with afterburner and controlled thrust vector, AL-41F1С. Thrust: 2 × 8800 kgf; afterburner: 2 × 14 500 kgf. soldier
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 21 August 2017 18: 05
      +1
      (2.25 min figure - not likely)


      I would call it air hip-hop!))))
      1. san4es
        san4es 21 August 2017 18: 19
        +1
        Quote: Ugolek
        I would call it air hip-hop!))))

        ... Rather, break-dance ... Or aerial ballet
    2. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 21 August 2017 20: 05
      0
      Well, not a single rocket will perform such a maneuver!
  4. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 21 August 2017 18: 00
    +5
    launches fighter Su-35S, Su-35 ...

    Excuse me, somebody living and working in Komsomolsk will explain to me what Su-35С differs from Su-35? The lack of professionalism of the authors is frankly boring. It seems that the Damans breed like rabbits.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 21 August 2017 18: 06
      +4
      I will try. appearance_ nothing. differences in stuffing and armament. 35С_ for VCS, 35_ export version.
      1. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 21 August 2017 18: 12
        +5
        Quote: newbie
        I will try. appearance_ nothing. differences in stuffing and armament. 35С_ for VCS, 35_ export version.

        C'mon, with the exception of the state system of Chinese Su-35С nothing from our combatants do not differ.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 21 August 2017 18: 17
          +4
          pondonte here is a political question. After all, she skipped infa that China would get SU35 in the complex for our flyers, I mean SU35С. This is specifically about China (which was not immediately asked). Your question was about the differences between 35 and 35, I answered.
          1. zyablik.olga
            zyablik.olga 21 August 2017 18: 18
            +3
            Quote: newbie
            pondonte here is a political question. After all, she skipped infa that China would get SU35 in the complex for our flyers, I mean SU35С. This is specifically about China (which was not immediately asked). Your question was about the differences between 35 and 35, I answered.

            There is no such serial aircraft Su-35. This is exactly what I wanted to convey with my own comment.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 21 August 2017 18: 26
              +4
              SU35 export_ will be assembled soon. they will put in a glider a stripped-down filling, they will equip with armaments of stripped-down characterization and voile. Indonesia, Malaysia, India have some intentions to buy it, and I forgot someone else. as soon as the contract, you’ll see right away.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 21 August 2017 19: 11
                +5
                Quote: newbie
                they will put in a glider a stripped-down filling, they will equip with armaments of stripped-down characterization and voile.
                And who will take the stripped down? Usually in Russia they act differently. For export are better modifications. Unless of course this does not contradict international agreements. For example, as with rockets.
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 21 August 2017 19: 20
                  +4
                  I did not understand you, whether it is possible in more detail. Do you want to say that our export weapons are better than serial ones? By the way, the answer to your question is in your own question. if the customer has time and money, then please. You can make a modification from the base export model for the customer’s Wishlist and there are examples of this. but whether they are better than “home” modifications, I think not.
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 21 August 2017 19: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Usually in Russia they act differently. For export are better modifications.

                  And from this place in more detail ...
                  Quote: Stas157
                  For example, as with rockets.

                  With which for example ...
                  1. kotuk_ha_oxote
                    kotuk_ha_oxote 21 August 2017 19: 59
                    0
                    Iskander E, for example.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 21 August 2017 20: 10
                      +2
                      Quote: kotuk_ha_oxote
                      Iskander E, for example.

                      Oh how wassat I am wildly sorry, but with what fright, did we start exporting the Macedonian? laughing
                      I’ll explain ... there are three Iskander complexes ... Iskander-E, Iskander-K and Iskander-M. They work together, complementing each other.
                      Here is Iskander-K

              2. zyablik.olga
                zyablik.olga 22 August 2017 02: 26
                +2
                Quote: newbie
                It is SU35 export_ that will be collected soon. put the trimmed stuffing into the airframe, equip them with the trimmed characteristics and, voila.

                The customer has gone picky now. The same Su-30MKI created for India at first seriously surpassed the fighters of our Air Force. So, do not build illusions. In addition, this article says:
                KnAAZ - a branch of the company "Sukhoi" (part of the United Aircraft Building Corporation), produces fighters Su-35, Su-35,
                . What is not true.
              3. Bongo
                Bongo 22 August 2017 09: 45
                +2
                Quote: newbie
                namely SU35 export

                There is no such aircraft in the series, and whether it will be unknown. In this Olya is absolutely right. The article wrote nonsense.
          2. Muvka
            Muvka 21 August 2017 19: 05
            +1
            infa slipped that "almost the same." A concept can almost be stretched.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 21 August 2017 19: 45
              +5
              Quote: Muvka
              infa slipped that "almost the same." A concept can almost be stretched.

              The export option will never be better than what is done for itself. For several reasons ... for example, one of the reasons is the secrecy of many developments and nodes in new complexes that no one will give to “partners” for sure.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 22 August 2017 02: 36
                +3
                Andrew, hello!
                Quote: NEXUS
                The export option will never be better than what is done for yourself.

                You are not quite right. So it was in the days of the USSR. Now a foreign buyer for "real money" requires the best and "export" modifications are often superior in capabilities to aircraft in service in their own Air Force. By the way, the same story is in the USA. The F-15, being built for the Israeli and Saudi Arabian air forces, is better in capabilities than those that are in service with the US Air Force.
                1. user1212
                  user1212 22 August 2017 04: 20
                  0
                  Here it is still worth clarifying a couple of points.
                  -Difference in time. If purchases for the Moscow Region were conducted 15 years ago and are currently discontinued, and the export version has been modified using non-classified equipment
                  -MO refusal from purchases as with T90. When the Moscow Region refuses to purchase equipment and the state gives permission for export, but again only using declassified components
                  - When the export version is created or modernized using imported components. For example, a Russian plane with Israeli avionics
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 22 August 2017 04: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: user1212
                    Here it is still worth clarifying a couple of points.

                    Comparing a tank with a fighter is, in my opinion, not entirely correct. As for the history of the appearance of the modernized Su-27СМ and Su-30СМ, they were largely created on the basis of export orders. Moreover, aircraft were exported much earlier than in their own air force. Perhaps I will disappoint you, but the new medium-range air combat missiles also arrived at the foreign customer earlier than in the Russian Air Force. And still, Su-35С carry databases mainly with P-27 and P-73.
                    1. user1212
                      user1212 22 August 2017 07: 32
                      0
                      Quote: Bongo
                      Comparing a tank with a fighter is in my opinion not entirely correct

                      We are here about export
                      Quote: Bongo
                      As for the history of the appearance of the modernized Su-27SM and Su-30SM, they were largely created on the basis of export orders.
                      Moreover, aircraft were exported much earlier than in their own air force

                      Su 27CM made its first flight in 2002. What Su27 were purchased before the SM under Yeltsin? Well if available repaired. See point 1 Time difference. The army then did not need airplanes. The summer cottages of the generals were unfinished, there was so much to cut into metal and it was necessary to steal, and you mean new planes. We quickly forgot all the “good” that the liberals gave us. I strongly doubt that the Moscow Region was eager to buy new Dryers, but all the plants were loaded to capacity with export contracts. The same KnAAZ in 96g was engaged in the repair of trams so as not to bend at all (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6luA4uWnS2E). So now, KnAAZ can probably do 30 for the Russian Air Force for the year, (and if you move SSJ ...), but the MO is in no hurry to order them
                      1. Bongo
                        Bongo 22 August 2017 07: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: user1212
                        Su 27СМ made its first flight in the 2002 year. What Su27 were purchased before SM under Yeltsin?

                        This is open data. Under Putin, 10 years ago, too, it wasn’t much that they bought new cars. Most of the Su-27СМ are not new, but thoroughly repaired and modernized vehicles according to the version already worked out in export ones. In addition, during the repair and modernization, there were quite a few "jambs". Despite the fact that the plant was nearby, a significant part of the Su-27СМ in the 23-IAP was considered "doves of the world." In the air they could fly, but to fully perform the combat mission, alas, no. However, the same story until the end of the 2015 year was with the Su-35С.

                        I don’t need to tell about the plant, I'm from Komsomolsk.
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 22 August 2017 09: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Andrew, hello!

                  Hi Seryoga! hi
                  Quote: Bongo
                  You are not quite right. So it was in the days of the USSR. Now a foreign buyer for "real money" requires the best and "export" modifications often outperform aircraft that are in service in their own air force

                  I don’t agree ... name at least one export SU-30, SU-27, I’m not talking about the 35 yet, although I’m more than sure that it will go to China “truncated”, which is better than our machines. At least one.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 22 August 2017 09: 51
                    +4
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    I don’t agree ... name at least one export SU-30, SU-27, I’m not talking about the 35 yet, although I’m more than sure that it will go to China “truncated”, which is better than our machines. At least one.

                    Compare Su-30MKI and Su-30СМ in terms of impact capabilities. I'm not talking about Su-30M2. Andrei, what will the Su-35C go truncated with?
                    I recently communicated with the "ancient" on this topic. He agreed with me. When concluding a contract for the supply of a small batch of Su-35С, the Chinese managed to insist that almost all of the original avionics would be saved on the machine.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 22 August 2017 10: 04
                      +3
                      Quote: Bongo
                      Compare the Su-30MKI and Su-30SM in terms of impact capabilities. I'm not talking about the Su-30M2

                      Are you talking about the possibility of hanging Bramos on the 30th, which the Indians decided to hang on him? So wait, friend, first of all, who cut this Brahmos to the Indians and on the basis of what, you will not answer? In terms of which is better, I am convinced that our SM will be superior in some ways to export modifications (maybe not by much, but still ..)
                      Quote: Bongo
                      Andrey, what will the Su-35S truncate go for?

                      Are you sure that the Chinese, despite the fact that they insist on something there, will get what they want?
                      Quote: Bongo
                      I recently communicated with the "ancient" on this topic. He agreed with me.

                      An ancient famous grumbler and pragmatist ... and you know that. He, even if something is good and without hemorrhoids in us (although I don’t remember this), will still grumble. And this is right, because shouting Hurray is stupid when we are still where the sunlight does not reach. But I am convinced that the Chinese will receive a truncated version of the 35th ... maybe avionics, maybe an arsenal ... but never mind ...
                      1. Bongo
                        Bongo 22 August 2017 10: 56
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                        Quote: NEXUS
                        You about the possibility of hanging Brahmos

                        Not only, we do not have analogues to the suspended search and sighting French containers. request
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Are you sure that the Chinese, despite the fact that they insist on something there, will get what they want?

                        I’m sure, and I even know where these planes will most likely be based.
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        An ancient famous grumbler and pragmatist ... and you know that.

                        I, too, are slowly becoming. Many knowledge are great sorrows ... sad
  5. Proton
    Proton 21 August 2017 19: 30
    +2
    And why be surprised that 10 pieces a year of planes? Shots are all about ..or, educational base for mineteters laughing exchanged, who will build the planes? all want to only sell them and to have at least a small but gesheft of their own.
    So proudly plastic and cardboard planes fly at exhibitions every time.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 22 August 2017 00: 23
      +1
      Quote: Proton
      And why be surprised that 10 pieces a year of planes? Shots are all about ..or, educational base for mineteters

      for a superpower claiming world domination is not enough, for a strong state without "getting up from its knees" even a lot, depending on how it relates what
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  6. Holoy
    Holoy 21 August 2017 20: 29
    +1
    So in Russia, new planes arrive the most in the world!
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 21 August 2017 21: 26
      +4
      Guys, before ironicizing at such a pace of procurement, it is necessary to first analyze how many military airfields we have in service, how many IAP, ShAP, BAP and so on. When you know at least their approximate number, you will understand that not everything is so bad, most IAPs are already flying on new aircraft, such as Su30cm and Su35, plus on the approach of Mig35, I think that a couple of regiments will fly on them. The pace does not increase yet due to the fact that old planes are being repaired and modernized, respectively, the service life is extended, and writing them off just for rearmament to a new motherboard is stupid. This has already happened in the blink of an eye, su27m17 when aircraft with a large supply of resources and opportunities for modernization were withdrawn from the Air Force, and then to the first Chechen one when these aircraft would be very much in demand. Of course, it would be great to get 4-30 small of all types per year, where to put the rest? Syria to give? And so we give sou40. Therefore, as it is for me, it’s very important now: 24. to restore airfields while many of them are still in a more or less normal state, 1. To establish normal releases of flight and technical personnel (from this year the first normal release will be). And then it is already possible to increase the supply of equipment.
  7. Music
    Music 22 August 2017 00: 11
    +1
    Well, that's not bad yet. Here in the enemy Ukraine, only repairs are done. Like. And we still dozens of new rivets.
    1. aliis-M
      aliis-M 23 August 2017 00: 45
      +1
      Let's compare ourselves with Estonia
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 August 2017 00: 37
    0
    ... that’s already 4 months left, before the end of this year ... request