"High-precision complexes" proposed military 3 type ATGM

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Association "High-precision complexes" offers the Russian military and foreign customers three types of anti-tank missile systems of different characteristics, reports Interfax-AVN.



In his time, Academician Arkady Georgievich Shipunov, who for many years headed the Tula Instrument Engineering Design Bureau, formulated and justified a three-stage concept of anti-tank defense. The first link is a light wearable medium-range complex. The second link is a mobile or mobile-long-range complex and the third link is air-based long-range complexes,
said the CEO of the holding Alexander Denisov.

For the first link - ATGM Metis-M1 - a lightweight, wearable complex with a range of fire day and night up to 2 km. It can be delivered by a fighter to any inaccessible terrain, allows you to swim across water obstacles and airborne landing, ensures the defeat of all modern tanks and various fortifications.

For the second link of the Russian army, a self-propelled Cornet-D1 complex is offered, for export its analogue Cornet-EM. Both complexes provide a range of 8 - 10 km, designed and manufactured in two versions,
said the general director.

He noted that the “Metis-М1” and “Cornet-EM” export complexes have proven themselves in local combat conflicts now taking place in different parts of the world, not only as a reliable means of defeating tanks, but also as multipurpose defensive-assault weapons, capable of hitting any targets on the battlefield — tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, automobiles, manpower, bunkers, buildings, snipers, hovering helicopters, and so on. ”

As the third link - airborne complex. We offer to equip attack helicopters, both the Russian army and exported, guided weapons complex with the Whirlwind missile. This complex has a high-precision laser-beam control system with an effective range of up to 8 km. The results of the use of this complex from the Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopters by the IS militants (grouping banned in the Russian Federation) were recently published on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Anyone can verify how destructive this precision is. weapon,
told Denisov.
  • bastion-opk.ru/AV. Karpenko
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  1. +6
    August 21 2017
    It’s good, but it would be interesting, what is there on the Hermes topic? What are the successes? Or, again, we are waiting for the appearance of a "fried rooster" or "a whistle from the mountain from cancer" ...
    1. +6
      August 21 2017
      The next tests are scheduled for 2018. The input term again shifts to the right. Bring to the "mind" does not work. It is hoped that we can do without a "roasted rooster." hi
      1. +2
        August 21 2017
        Quote: kapitan92
        It is hoped that we can do without a "roasted rooster"

        That would be good. There is hope for the supply of "Darts" to the "neighboring country." Maybe we’ll buy a few sets there, to speed up the work ...
        1. +5
          August 21 2017
          Quote: svp67
          There is hope for the supply of "Darts" to the "neighboring country." Maybe we’ll buy a few sets there, to speed up the work ...

          It would be nice! Or buy or get, as in Afghanistan, "stingers."
        2. +1
          August 21 2017
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: kapitan92
          It is hoped that we can do without a "roasted rooster"

          That would be good. There is hope for the supply of "Darts" to the "neighboring country." Maybe we’ll buy a few sets there, to speed up the work ...

          Yes, you have for sure both "Javelins" and "Spikes" are. The equipment that is actively used in battle cannot fall into the hands of the enemy. Yours most likely the problem is not with the construction of the ATGM 3 generation, but with the production of a number of components for it.
          1. +1
            August 21 2017
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            The equipment that is actively used in battle cannot fall into the hands of the enemy.

            WHERE ARE THEY ACTIVELY APPLIED?
            1. 0
              August 21 2017
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              The equipment that is actively used in battle cannot fall into the hands of the enemy.

              WHERE ARE THEY ACTIVELY APPLIED?

              In BV. And Jabs and Spikes.
              1. +2
                August 21 2017
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                In BV. And Jabs and Spikes.

                If by you, then by the cash register ...
                1. +3
                  August 21 2017
                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  In BV. And Jabs and Spikes.

                  If by you, then by the cash register ...

                  C'mon. And ours in battles lost technology more than once. Especially since Spike has been actively using since the end of the last century.
                  1. 0
                    August 21 2017
                    spikes could get, but where did the javelins come from?
                    1. 0
                      August 21 2017
                      Quote: just EXPL
                      spikes could get, but where did the javelins come from?

                      From Iraq and Afghanistan.
          2. 0
            August 21 2017
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Yours most likely the problem is not with the construction of the 3rd generation ATGM, but with the production of a number of components for it.

            Here the issue of price plays a greater role. It comes out very expensive for a disposable racket.
        3. +2
          August 21 2017
          Quote: svp67
          There is hope for the supply of "Darts" to the "neighboring country."

          There is one, yes who will give them? laughing
          Quote: svp67
          Maybe we’ll buy a few sets there, to speed up the work ...

          So, it’s easier to agree with the same Kurds - they, it seems, flashed by.
          1. +3
            August 21 2017
            Quote: Paranoid50
            So, it’s easier to agree with the same Kurds - they, it seems, flashed by.

            The Darts of the Kurds? Do you want a heart attack with Erdogan?
            1. +2
              August 21 2017
              Quote: svp67
              The Darts of the Kurds?

              Duc, about a year ago a video flashed. There is no information about the use of information, but ... And Erdogan now, just muddies with the Persians, was going to inflict PKK. So we will take a look. As it is, the classic: if in the first act there is no ATGM hanging on the wall ... Yes
              1. +2
                August 21 2017
                Quote: Paranoid50
                Duc, about a year ago a video flashed.

                In this video, there was actually a Dragon, the predecessor of the second-generation Javelin.
                1. +1
                  August 21 2017
                  Quote: Spade
                  In this video there was actually a "Dragon",

                  Thanks for the clarification. hi I wonder how many Kurds were delivered.
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        5. 0
          August 21 2017
          Quote: svp67
          That would be good. There is hope for the supply of "Darts" to the "neighboring country." Maybe we’ll buy a few sets there, to speed up the work ...

          Yes, no one will give javelins to monkeys jumping around the whole square with machine guns and grenade launchers.
    2. 0
      August 21 2017
      Hermes is a specific thing. Theoretically, with an active homing head it will be used extremely rarely, and without it, “old” complexes like the same “Whirlwind” are quite enough. Do not think that the “Hermes” is preparing to replace - it will be just an exotic and expensive addition to the existing arsenal of anti-tank systems. An active homing head is not so effective as to place hopes on it to receive a “wunderwaffe”. It will be used more as a "tactical" missile, rather than as a massive anti-tank weapon.
  2. +4
    August 21 2017
    so, it’s good to confuse conscripts No. there should be ONE button-pressed-the enemy is dead. ALL !!!
    1. +3
      August 21 2017
      [quote = izya top] so, good conscripts should be confused there should be ONE button-pressed-the enemy died. EVERYTHING !!
      The current conscript is able to activate boost and steals mode in 5 seconds to overcome a 3-m-tall obstacle, work out two types of grenades at the enemy’s accumulation, while still in the process of landing, finish the assault rifle ammunition on a demoralized enemy, change the weapon to auxiliary and complete the stripping.
      Many do more than 20 button presses faster than 5 seconds.
      Do not offend our youth wassat
    2. +2
      August 21 2017
      [quote = izya top] is good for conscripts to be confused there should be ONE button [/ quote]
      [quote] [Guerilla Today, 14:11 ↑
      [quote = izzya topDo not offend our youth / quote]
      Most of all he "dreamed" of conscripts with such intellect, as I would see, so everything is clear, a month of barracks.
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    1. +2
      August 21 2017
      What was that?
    2. +2
      August 21 2017
      Forgot to take haloperidol again?
  4. +3
    August 21 2017
    N-yes ... Everything is very, very sad ...
    "Metis-M1" is very weak, and at the same time absolutely does not ensure the safety of the calculation. Disposable anti-tankers ...
    “Cornet-D1” on patency loses even to the old 9P148 “Competition” based on the BRDM-2. That is, using it for its intended purpose in anti-tank units of the brigade / regiment level will be very, very difficult ... Simply put, an expensive, but almost useless device.
    The helicopter complex raises even more questions. Okay, we decided to use a laser-beam complex, which is very limited in combat use. But why is his range of use even less than that of the much lighter Cornets? Although it could normally be done?
    1. +1
      August 21 2017
      Typo. The Whirlwind is just for shooting from helicopters / aircraft at targets from a safe distance exceeding the range of return fire of small arms and MANPADS, that is, up to 10 kilometers in the afternoon. The "Cornet", on the other hand, has a range of 8-10 km, which is redundant, since there is no physical possibility to observe the target from the surface at such a distance - so it shoots up to 5 kilometers. And “Metis” is not “weak”, but easy, that is, to shoot targets that you still managed to drive up to you after preliminary processing by “Whirlwinds” and “Cornets”. And then the RPGs will go into business - shoot at the sides at point blank range and from the roofs at hatches - if the adversaries are completely insolent. And every weapon - in its niche - is extremely dangerous for tanks. The main thing is that the soldiers should be able to use it and think tactically.
      1. +2
        August 21 2017
        Quote: Roma-1977
        And "Metis" - not "weak", but easy, that is, to shoot targets

        It is weak. Other light ATGMs compensate for their low weight by hitting targets from above on a span or from above from a hill. Moreover, the possibility of using light anti-tank systems from rooms has become practically standard. The “Metis” does not have this. Rather, there is a formal one, but the requirements in the form of 6 meters to the back wall and 120 cubic meters of volume definitely depreciate this "opportunity".
        Quote: Roma-1977
        "Cornet" is a range of 8-10 km - redundant

        Nevertheless, he shoots at such a range.
        Quote: Roma-1977
        And every weapon - in its niche - is extremely dangerous for tanks.

        Such weapons are no less dangerous for those who use them.
        “Metis” makes you climb under bullets and splinters, “Kornet-D1” occupies not tactically advantageous deployment lines, and those that can be reached, “Whirlwinds” make it hang in front of the enemy for 28 seconds when firing at maximum range ...

        If you really want to save on your own army without using third-generation anti-tank systems, then:
        - Why can’t you make the Metis launcher remotely controlled, like Belarusian complexes?
        - Why can not install the “Cornet” on a normal chassis in a normal configuration? To the ridiculous, the 9P162 Kornet-T based on the BMP-3 significantly loses in its combat capabilities on the Kornetu-D1 equipment based on the Tiger. Does Deripaska need the money so much that some are ready to spit on the combat capabilities of anti-tank units?
        - Why it is impossible to provide control of the “Vortices” from the supra-muzzle block, as on the same “Tigers”, if everything so rested against the laser beam?
        1. +1
          August 21 2017
          The Kornet can shoot at 10 km, but when the war starts, you will see that only the missiles firing at 5 are available in the troops. When shooting with the Whirlwind, the helicopter will hang for 28 seconds outside the range of the return fire, while the reliability of the defeat will be higher than when firing a shot-and-forget type missile - that is, you can also hang at your leisure, for the benefit of the case. And the penetration of the “Metis” reaches 1 meter of tandem warhead armor, that is, very good even when shooting at tanks in the forehead. And all really rested in the "laser beam" guidance. For there is practically no serial model of an active television / thermal imaging homing head in Russia, and even when it appears, it will be a piece of goods, since it is better to have 20 Metis in the tank-dangerous direction than one Hermes.
          1. +2
            August 21 2017
            Quote: Roma-1977
            When shooting "Whirlwind" the helicopter will hang for 28 seconds outside the range of return fire

            That is, exclusively pinching the enemy at the very “front end” at the maximum range, because the RBC-70 MANPADS, so popular recently in poor countries of NATO, have a maximum range of 8 km.
            Quote: Roma-1977
            at the same time, the reliability of the defeat will be higher than when firing a shot-and-forget type missile

            Not at all a fact. Modern KOEP perfectly detect the radiation of laser-beam control equipment. But with “shot-and-forget” everything is much more complicated - only not very common and expensive UV sensors are needed there. In addition, there is such a thing as fire performance. According to this sign, the Whirlwind loses even to third-generation systems, and even systems of the second with semi-active laser "heads" - targets for them can be highlighted by third-party means, UAVs or ground-based ones. After all, three tanks for a "whirlwind" are one and a half minutes at the maximum range.

            Quote: Roma-1977
            For there is practically no serial model of an active television / thermal imaging homing head in Russia

            Of course not. Such does not exist in nature. 8)))
            We have no special problems with passive infrared seekers, because all these "Javelins" come from MANPADS and air-to-air missiles
            With active radar seeker too. Television seekers appeared in the USSR even ...
            Damn, even the Serbs are able to create an analogue of "Spike-NLOS"
            1. +1
              August 21 2017
              A helicopter at maximum range and low altitude will always have an advantage over MANPADS for its own initiative. And the actual firing range of helicopter ATGMs of 10 kilometers guarantees an unanswered backache of enemy battle formations up to five kilometers in depth, which is quite enough. And the principle of operation of the active GOS ATGM is significantly different from the GOS of MANPADS. It is justifiable for such GOS to shoot at especially important targets in the operational rear of the enemy, but not at armored vehicles and other vehicles in the line of sight.
              1. 0
                August 21 2017
                Quote: Roma-1977
                And the principle of operation of the active GOS ATGM

                “Active” means the GOS itself emits a signal. Currently active only radar seeker.
                “Semi-active” - means emitting an external source. The semi-active ones are represented by laser and again radar seeker.
                All the rest are passive. And the passive infrared seeker of the Gos "Javelina" is not much different from the passive infrared detachment of the GOS of MANPADS "Verba". Is that the “Willow” it is more protected from interference
  5. +1
    August 22 2017
    The first link is a light wearable medium-range complex. The second link is a long-range mobile or portable long-range complex and the third link is aviation-based long-range complexes,

    I don’t know which academician came up with this, but a military man told us at 93 in College at the NVP, only the academician forgot to mention the PTA for some reason, and in the Donbass it will be the main part of the burden of fighting against armored targets ...

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