American cruiser Indianapolis, killed in 1945 year, found after 72 year

The American cruiser Indianapolis was found after 72. According to broker US Naval Institute, during a search operation led by Paul Allen, the remains of a shipwreck, which became one of the last major defeats of the Americans during the Second World War, were revealed, reports "Warspot"

On the night of 29 on 30 in July 1945, the American heavy cruiser Indianapolis sailed from Guam to the Philippines after successfully completing the secret mission of delivering enriched uranium and details of the Malysh atomic bomb, which was later dropped on Hiroshima. Shortly before midnight, the cruiser was discovered by a Japanese submarine I-58, and the crew of the submarine identified the ship as a battleship. "Indianapolis" did not have sonars or hydrophones and went without an escort destroyers, so I-58 without any problems released six torpedoes on it. In 00: 14 30 in July, the American cruiser was hit by two torpedoes that hit the nose, and after 12 minutes went to the bottom.

Cruiser Indianapolis

Despite the fact that the radio operators of "Indianapolis" managed to send a distress signal, the help of the sailors who survived the Japanese attack had to wait almost four days. Of the 1196, people aboard the July 30 cruiser, near 300, sank immediately with the ship. Most of the remaining sailors on the surface, without waiting for help, died. During the rescue operation, which lasted until 8 in August, only 321 people were rescued, and four of them died soon after.

The remains of the ship at the bottom of the Philippine Sea

The search operation, organized in 2016 year by billionaire and philanthropist Paul Allen, one of the founders of Microsoft, over the weekend ended in success. The remains of the ship were found at a depth of about 5,3 km in the Philippine Sea. Special unmanned vehicles took several pictures that allowed Indianapolis to be identified.

The search team gave the coordinates of the find of the U.S. Navy, because the wreck is considered a military grave and remains the property of the U.S. fleet. However, the exact location of the detection will not be transmitted to the public. The team of Paul Allen continues to search for the wreckage of the cruiser. It is known that today 22 Indianapolis crew members are still alive, and today the military command plans to notify them, as well as family members of the dead sailors, about assigning status to the remains of a military grave ship.

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[oleg-gr]

The American heavy cruiser Indianapolis got it.

[Zibelew]

The Japanese no longer remember who dropped the atomic bomb on them. Many suggest that the USSR.

[Thrall]

Most of the remaining sailors on the surface, without waiting for help, died.

They were eaten by sharks (this is not a joke).

[Zibelew]

Out of 1196 people on board, about 300 drowned with the ship. The remaining 800 tried to escape from dehydration and from sharks. Of the 321 sailors raised from the water, 316 survived. Subsequently, Captain McVay was found guilty by the military tribunal of the incident in 1968, after which he committed suicide.

[Nehist]

You are mistaken again !!! On December 19, 1945, a military tribunal found Captain Charles Butler McVey guilty of "criminal negligence" and sentenced him to demotion with dismissal from the Navy. The fleet command, a few months later reviewed the sentence. McVeigh was reinstated in the fleet, rose to the rank of rear admiral. But already being retired 68 committed suicide. More precisely please

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Zibelew

Subsequently, Captain McVay was found guilty by the military tribunal of the incident in 1968, after which he committed suicide.

That is - like this ... And, at the same time, the harsh "cant" gets away with the young McCain. However, well done ...

[Nehist]

Maybe enough to carry this nonsense that the Japanese do not remember? !!!

[just exp]

young people do not remember everything, but the reason is as follows. there, in history textbooks, they write that the USSR entered the war on such a date and the next event that a bomb was dropped.
and the youngster thinks that the tips dropped the bomb (not all, but not a few).

[Vision]

Proof, please, a photo of a Japanese textbook where everything is said and written.

[Black5Raven]

This bike is already beginning to tire, from the same series "they are all Russophobes 1111!". Provide evidence of this in Japanese history textbooks and find the line "The Soviet Union dropped atomic bombs on Japanese cities." Until there is evidence, everything you say will be in the same niche as "the Jewish massons, the Jews, the reptilians and the nibiru, rule the Rothschilds, and they are the world government from the Vatican!"

[Buffet]

Is it about him that the Americans recently shot the film "Cruiser"? There, the Kazakh also plays the main role of the captain of the cruiser ...

[Thrall]

Yes, another failed role of N. Cage.

[Buffet]

And I wanted to be honest.

[Sergey-8848]

Complete expanse for AI: - Well, what would a Japanese submarine go on the attack before unloading Indianapolis?
Timely, and not belated, destruction of this ship would be much more important than the whole "Pearl Bay". If only to know ...

[Tsoy]

Quote: Sergey-8848

Timely, and not belated, destruction of this ship would be much more important than the whole "Pearl Bay". If only to know ...

One of the vicissitudes of fate ... An interesting story with this ship is connected ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sergey-8848

Complete expanse for AI: - Well, what would a Japanese submarine go on the attack before unloading Indianapolis?

Then YaB on Hiroshima would be dropped on August 9. Or on Nagasaki. Because the "Fat Man" was delivered by air - to the S-54.
In addition, the United States at that time had weapons and the worst YaB - the “Tokyo cocktail” Le May mix but do not shake), poured by hundreds of B-29s from an altitude of 1500-2000 m onto a Japanese city, burned out abruptly any SBN.

[Nehist]

So Indianopolis didn’t have to go to sea at all as it was under repair and no one from the crew thought about the war anymore, especially in July 45

[Altona]

The sailors of the deceased cruiser are a cherished memory. The Second World has not yet revealed to us all the deaths and secrets. On television, there was a movie about six months ago about some Olympic champion in the race, who served as a pilot and was sent to a Japanese concentration camp when his plane was shot down. "Unbroken" seems to be called Unbroken (2014 year).

[Tsoy]

Quote: Altona

The sailors of the deceased cruiser are a cherished memory. The Second World has not yet revealed to us all the deaths and secrets. On television, there was a movie about six months ago about some Olympic champion in the race, who served as a pilot and was sent to a Japanese concentration camp when his plane was shot down. "Unbroken" seems to be called Unbroken (2014 year).

On real events the film is shot. This guy after the war did not participate in sports, but during the Olympics in Salt Lake, he carried the torch. Louis Zampierinny was called.

[Thrall]

Quote: Altona

Sailors of the dead cruiser blessed memory

Indianapolis went from Guam to the Philippines after successfully completing a secret mission to deliver enriched uranium and parts of the Baby atom bomb, which was later dropped on Hiroshima

Maybe then also the pilots, to the heap?
Simple enough thanks ... from the sharks.
In war, as in war.

[kdakda]

A good American ship is a sunken ship.

[Nehist]

A rather interesting coincidence in the dates of death of Rear Admiral McVeigh and Captain 3rd Rank Matitsura Hashimoto I-58 Commander both died in 1968

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Alexey RA

In addition, the United States at that time had weapons and the worst YaB - the “Tokyo cocktail” Le Mei (500-fn cluster bombs with napalm submunitions and 100-ff incendiary phosphorus bombs, mix but not shake), poured out in hundreds of B-29s heights of 1500-2000 m to the Japanese city, burned everything abruptly any SBN.

As a weapon more terrible, but delivering it to the target is quite dangerous. Visota is 1500-2000 meters for bombing with the B-29, although at night, it is a very unsafe occupation. 9 thousand meters for the B-29 with YaB slightly better.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Kostadinov

As a weapon more terrible, but delivering it to the target is quite dangerous. Visota is 1500-2000 meters for bombing with the B-29, although at night, it is a very unsafe occupation.

With Japanese air defense - just right. This is not Europe with OVTs and ONTs radars, fighter control and guidance centers, night fighters and powerful air defense with UAZO radar.
Of the 339 B-29s involved in Meetinghouse operations, only 27 returned to base.

Quote: Kostadinov

9 thousand meters for the B-29 with YaB slightly better.

But sending 300-400 V-29s to a Japanese city is easier, faster, more reliable and cheaper. And most importantly - ZAB is always at hand. And not like with YaB: they dropped the first two - and sit, wait until they do one more.

[Altona]

Quote: Thrall

Maybe then also the pilots, to the heap?
Simple enough thanks ... from the sharks.
In war, as in war.

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They are just soldiers and carried out the order, the same victims of the World War, it is not for us to judge them.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Vision

Zadornov pleased cotton wool with this tale, and she took it at face value.
The Japanese are well aware that the United States was hit, but they understand that this is a punishment for their crimes.

We must understand that the United States punished the inhabitants of two Japanese cities with nuclear weapons for an attack by the Japanese fleet at an American naval base. Does this not remind you of the actions of terrorists? Of course, the scale of one terrorism cannot be compared to another.

[Black5Raven]

The union bombed Helsinki during the Second World War and the Winter War, helped transform Rzhev into a lunar landscape, and so on. - Doesn’t resemble the actions of terrorists? Only the scales are different. Now the stupidity of your message reached you I hope? This is a war, not a game of cakes in the sandbox.

Would you bomb not nuclear weapons, but the old-fashioned way with a hundred B-29s with lighters, would you feel better?

[Rader]

We must understand that the United States punished the inhabitants of two Japanese cities with nuclear weapons for an attack by the Japanese fleet at an American naval base. Does this not remind you of the actions of terrorists?

The US did not punish anyone ... And you can’t call it terrorism at all ... And to call what happened at 45 with Hiroshima and Nagasaki is fashionable as "Big Politics." It was necessary to show "who is the boss in the house" and "who has a big club," so they showed.

[Msta]

Normally, getting into the nose is not fatal. The fact that the ship sank, and even so quickly, speaks of its serious design flaws. For comparison ... On the Soviet cruiser Molotov, the stern exploded in an explosion, the ship continued the battle, returned to the base, where it was repaired and returned to service.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Msta

Normally, getting into the nose is not fatal. The fact that the ship sank, and even so quickly, speaks of its serious design flaws.

In fact, it is believed that one torpedo hit the bow, the other - closer to the middle (while the jet fuel tank exploded).
And these were Type 95 oxygen torpedoes with warheads from 405 to 550 kg. For a “negotiated” SRT, 2 such torpedoes are almost certain death or severe damage.

Quote: Msta

For comparison ... On the Soviet cruiser Molotov, the stern exploded in an explosion, the ship continued the battle, returned to the base, where it was repaired and returned to service.

Do not compare the aviatorpeda and the Japanese 533-mm mini-long lance for submarines.

[Msta]

Yes, but Molotov is a light cruiser, not heavy, like Indianapolis, the safety margin and displacement are too different, but the booking is similar ... There couldn’t be any aviation fuel, the American delivered his cargo and was empty. ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Msta

Yes, but Molotov is a light cruiser, not heavy, like Indianapolis, the safety margin and displacement are too different, but the booking is similar ...

The difference in the displacement of Indy and Molotov is less than 30% (Molotov had a displacement of slightly less than 9000 tons).
And one aviatorpeda got into our KRL - and to the extremity. But “Indy” immediately caught 2 - the first in the nose, and the second at the wheelhouse.

Quote: Msta

There couldn’t be jet fuel, the American delivered his cargo and went empty ...

“Indy” in 1945 had 3 of its own seaplane and 1 catapult (it used to be 4 and 2, but one plane and 1 catapult, apparently, were removed to reduce overload due to increased air defense).
Here is a photo of "Indy" at the Mare Island shipyard on July 12, 1945 - 2 weeks before the death. Aircraft and one catapult in place.

[Nehist]

Here it should also be taken into account that the Kyrgyz Republic went into the sea with repairs while the kamikaze was not yet completed after the defeat by the kamikaze plane, and there was excitement at sea, which, by the way, did not go anti-submarine zigzag. And yet, yes, I-58 carried modernized torpedoes with 550kg warheads, which for Washington cruisers was usually fatal.
Here is how the captain of the 58nd rank, Hashimoto Motitsura, describes the attack of the heavy cruiser Indianapolis on July 2, 30 in his memoirs of the I-1945 boat commander:
The favorable moment for the volley was approaching. I changed the heading angle to 60 ° and the distance to 1370 m and started approaching for the volley. Finally, in a loud voice, he commanded: "Tovs devices! Volley!" Torpedoes fired at intervals of two seconds. From the torpedo compartment reported: "All the torpedoes came out, everything is in order!" Six torpedoes, like a fan, rushed towards the enemy ship. I quickly looked at the periscope, but nothing suspicious was visible. Having directed the boat on a course parallel with the enemy, we eagerly began to wait for the explosions. Every minute seemed like an eternity. Finally, two columns of water rose at the bow and then at the stern artillery tower on the starboard side of the ship, followed by flashes of bright red flame. Then at tower # 2 another column of water rose. Explosions seemed to envelop the ship. “Hit! Hit!” I shouted every time a torpedo hit the target. The team started to dance with joy.

[Msta]

30% is a lot and they did not finish off the Americans, but Molotov lost control of the steering wheels (they were torn off, along with a large piece of aft), being controlled only by cars, he continued the fight, fought off and went on repair. Nevertheless, they knew how to build cruisers in the USSR and fight on them, too.

[Nehist]

Well, the German avia torpedo warhead only 180 kg

[Msta]

I agree, but only partially ... 180 kg is the warhead of the first series of German airborne torpedoes, then it was increased to 200 kg and which one fell into ,, Molotov '' is another question ... But this is not the most interesting ... The thing is that you forget that the Luftwaffe used not only German, but also Italian air torpedoes, and the Italian were twice as heavy as German ... The same U-88 took two German air torpedoes, or one Italian ... So the warhead got into The Molotov torpedoes could have been 400 kg, this is certainly not 550 kg, like the Japanese, but the Molotov is a light cruiser, and the American is heavy.

[Nehist]

45 cm (17,7 ") F200 / 450 x 5,46 and 45 cm (17,7") Si 200/450 × 5,36 Italian torpedoes had a charge of only 200 kg and a later 50 cm (19,7 ") ) W 120/500 x 2,6 and even less than 120

[Msta]

Damn, now I’m going to look for a book, I have what I need and I’ll write to you exactly what the model was there, with the name of the book and the author

[Nehist]

Well, in principle, I listed to you the Italian torpedoes used by the Luftwaffe and had the designations F5W, F5I and LT350 about other air torpedoes, I do not know if there is new data I will be glad to know

[Nehist]

Well, the Washington cruisers can hardly be called heavy if only for the guns, 26 projects were not much inferior to them in armament

[Msta]

The difference in size gives additional survivability, in addition, to install 8 inch guns of the Civil Code, it was necessary to strengthen the body .... I found the right book, but finding the right page was more difficult. But I remember exactly that the Germans took either 2 German, or 1 Italian, because the Italians were heavier ... Maybe you will be interested, or you will find the page you need before me ... There about the battles in the Mediterranean, because the Italian torpedoes ... The book of Mikhail Zefirov ,, Asa Luftwaffe bomber aircraft ''

[Msta]

I still couldn’t find the mark of the torpedo, but found that Molotov received not only a torpedo in that battle, but also suffered damage from the enemy’s coastal artillery batteries and survived, despite several attacks by enemy aircraft and torpedo boats ....

[Nehist]

Moreover, Molotov was very lucky all the same, no matter how no matter how 22 torpedoes were thrown into him. Initially, Indianopolis was laid as a light cruiser! Many articles said a displacement of 10258 tons; and at full load 12755 tons. However, after completion, the ship did not reach this weight and amounted to 9800, that is, not far from 26 projects

[Msta]

I could be wrong, but Indianapolis, this is a version of a cruiser like Pensacola. I rummaged through literature and admit that I was wrong. Italian torpedoes had a larger total mass than German ones, as well as captured torpedoes, French, for example, but the maximum entire warhead was about 300 kg, this is certainly not Japanese ...

[Bert]

Quote: Nehist

You are mistaken again !!! On December 19, 1945, a military tribunal found Captain Charles Butler McVey guilty of "criminal negligence" and sentenced him to demotion with dismissal from the Navy. The fleet command, a few months later reviewed the sentence. McVeigh was reinstated in the fleet, rose to the rank of rear admiral. But already being retired 68 committed suicide. More precisely please

Yes, a film was shot with a detailed description of that tragedy and the trial of the captain was all right. It was a secret mission to deliver atomic bombs. Since there were too many victims, someone had to be judged. Extreme was the captain. The film is thinking. At the terminal, the Japanese captain and destroyer commander met at the court before the war. They were only performers, as usual the main culprits remained on the sidelines.

[andrewkor]

And I heard that most sailors gobbled up sharks, according to the stories of survivors!

[albert]

More than five hundred people ate ...

[Region-25.rus]

Quote: just EXPL

young people do not remember everything, but the reason is as follows. there, in history textbooks, they write that the USSR entered the war on such a date and the next event that a bomb was dropped.
and the youngster thinks that the tips dropped the bomb (not all, but not a few).

Of course, I understand everything)) But in the city of Hiroshima there is a “Peace Park” and a “Museum of Peace”. All this in the city center, just under the explosion site. I've been there twice! But it was a long time ago and there were no digital artists yet, so the photos are only old-fashioned (but I'm not talking about that). there are a lot of exhibits both in the open air and in the pavilions. And I do not think that the Japanese redid all the newsreels, redid the plates on the mock-ups, interrupted the inscriptions on the sculptures and monuments, etc., etc.))))

[Nehist]

Msta,
Indianopolis is a type of Portland built in the amount of 2 pieces, a little improved Pensacola and in fact the same firewood as all Washington cruisers