In the German army began to increase in numbers

According to the online edition "Jane"On August 15, the German military department announced that the number of military personnel in the country's armed forces has reached 179 thousand. Of these, 170 thousand are professional military personnel (officers and contract soldiers), 9 thousand are conscripts.

This indicator shows the first noticeable increase in the number of the German Bundeswehr, which has experienced almost continuous reductions since 1990. Historical the minimum was observed at the beginning of 2016, when the troops totaled 166,5 thousand people.

In May 2016, German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen announced the need to increase the number to 198 thousand people. "in response to the exacerbation of the international security situation and the expansion of Germany's military commitments." Of these, 80% of the increase should come from contractors.

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[210ox]

In vain we think that the old woman of Europe has flabby muscles .. The Bundeswehr has always been and will be a high-class motivated army.

[vladfill]

The Wehrmacht was also some time .....

[210ox]

It’s just that they didn’t go for those ...

Quote: vladfill

The Wehrmacht was also some time .....

[cniza]

The Germans may wake up a historical memory, but judging by the behavior of their men during the violence of their women, doubts creep in.

[bulvas]

Quote: 210ox

In vain we think that the old woman of Europe has flabby muscles .. The Bundeswehr has always been and will be a high-class motivated army.

in its weight category - yes,
but the question is that they are not the only ones

Although ... maybe this is to balance American forces in Germany?

They were not going to fight with Russia.

[CAT BAIYUN]

They were not going to fight with Russia.

And with whom else should they fight? With the Poles? With the French? Female dogs are preparing ...
As from my point of view - they wanted to "fight" for a long time economically. It didn’t work out. Such a "war" does not suit the regional committee for a puddle.

[bulvas]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

They were not going to fight with Russia.

And with whom else should they fight? With the Poles? With the French? Female dogs are preparing ...
As from my point of view - they wanted to "fight" for a long time economically. It didn’t work out. Such a "war" does not suit the regional committee for a puddle.

How can you imagine a war with Europe?

No matter how they are armed, they will not be able to prevent retaliatory strikes

Without nuclear weapons, but anyway, who can let ordinary warheads or bombs / shells hit European cities?

For what?

[CAT BAIYUN]

How can you imagine a war with Europe?

The General Staff has already submitted and plans for this case are available.

No matter how they are armed, they will not be able to prevent retaliatory strikes

- I absolutely agree with you. Nevertheless, they are also arming themselves with the NATO "good" (supposedly a missile defense system), although it is clear to the hedgehog that the elements of the missile defense system will be the goals.

who can let ordinary warheads or bombs / shells hit European cities

- it feels like European politicians do not understand that a big brother is powerless because of a puddle. And if they understand, then what difference does it make to them? They, as those holding the power, everything will be many times better than the rest of the population, even in the case of a large nuclear chisel. But they live today, and today they want to "eat from the belly" and will do it. They are sitting near the feeder and will not say goodbye to her under any circumstances. And what exactly to do and by whose order it makes no difference. Moreover, the policy of Europe is no longer independent.
One way or another, it seems to me that now there is no understanding of responsibility for what is happening there.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, here's another thought came:
You speak

How can you imagine a war with Europe?

And what? Was she not there?
But after all, as in Europe they imagine this - I mean the war with the Russian Federation. And they even have reasons: you see, you unjustly own too much territory and natural resources.
So I would be careful in evaluating the adequacy and understanding of the situation in the minds of local thinkers, politicians and strategists ....

[mareco]

Yeah, just do not forget about the price. The Germans have always had the art of war at the highest level. Now it’s not so, but all the same, the Germans are one of the most dangerous nations because of traditions, mentality, economic opportunities, and the potential of defense and science.

[Normal ok]

Do not boast about going to the army ....

[Normal ok]

Quote: vladfill

The Wehrmacht was also some time .....

Do not boast about going to the army ....

[Logall]

I agree! Ever since Frederick!
I hope that the graves have not been forgotten to dig. Since that time ...

[Muvka]

Yeah, where 40% of the fighters are suitable for flight and where it turned out that in these fighters at night the light interferes with the work.

[Finches]

How many of them are women, pi ..., and all sorts of perverts - these figures are also important for understanding the combat readiness of the modern Reichswehr!

[Logall]

So everything won? No need to treat the enemy `` capriciously ''! It hurts after. Have you forgotten Russian-Japanese?

[Finches]

What is your defeatist comment for?

[Logall]

To the fact that you do not need to win for the previous announcement! We will give Luli, of course, but at what cost? Not only will they have to dig graves! And the more serious we take, the less losses there will be!

[Finches]

Excuse me generously, are you already going to fight with someone?

[Logall]

Do the Russians want war?
No! Not going to. But here with the Russian, someone is constantly going. Constantly!!!

[Topotun]

Nobody forgot anything. And no one believes that the NATO army (and the Bundeswehr in particular) sneeze and forget. The quantitative composition is still not in our favor, even if they are qualitatively and inferior (in terms of moral and combat characteristics). Therefore, they won’t win, but blood will be shed ... Someone wrote in comments that in all countries only 10-15% are ready to defend their country. This is not so for Russia. I want to believe in it, and for one war, if that is enough for me, at least the age is not the same. But, very little of us! But no one will give up, the leadership of the country would have had the will, and the population would support it. It seems to me.

[Doliva63]

If someone attacks Putin's country, then there are millions of people like me who immediately fade away "into the village." And Putin, unlike you, understands this perfectly. Therefore, military departments are introduced everywhere (we don’t rely on the old, 100%, only young, brainless) and include women in the law on military duty. Only the young will protect the pipe, we definitely will not. And the country from the 93rd does not need to be protected, only the state remains from it. But future conscripts do not know this.

[Finches]

I don’t even have anything to object to your stupidity ...

[Topotun]

Yes, and do not mind. There are the same ones. And yet there are more Russians, as if the Westerners did not try. The war of mentalities is in full swing.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Finches

How many of them are women, pi ..., and all sorts of perverts

The question should be posed in the wrong way ... AT HOW MUCH IS THE GERMAN ARMY READY IF THE DEFENSE MINISTER IS A WOMAN GENEKOLOGIST?

After graduating from high school in Lörth, Ursula von der Leyen in 1977 continued her education at the universities of Göttingen, Münster, where she studied economics. In 1978 she attended classes at the London School of Economics and Political Science. She studied medicine at the Hannover Medical School, which she graduated in 1987 with a state exam and tested [de] as a doctor.

From 1988 to 1992, she worked as an assistant doctor in the gynecological department of the University Hospital Hanover. At the end of graduate school in 1991, Ursula von der Leyen defended her thesis for the title of Doctor of Medicine. From 1992 to 1996, she and her family were in Stanford, California, where her husband worked as a teacher at Stanford University.

In 1998-2002, she worked as a teacher in the Department of Epidemiology, Social Medicine and Health System Research at the Hannover Medical School, where in 2001 she received a master's degree in public health. Ursula von der Layen speaks French and English.

The second question is, WHERE IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT MILITARY MATTER?

[Finches]

Tolerance - just like in the movies, a woman, one black man and a man with non-traditional sexual orientation must be in the heroes ... That's right!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Finches

Tolerance - like in a movie,

If we are talking about tolerance, then it is clear through what place brave German warriors are taught to fight.

[voyaka uh]

"How many of them are women, pi ... are important for understanding the combat readiness of the modern Reichswehr!" ////

This topic was already sorted out somehow in VO ... In the army of the Roman Empire, ALL soldiers were pi ...
(it was accepted) and they confidently soaked in the battles of all normal 400 years!

[Finches]

You must add that the Germans, the Millennium Reich, cleared of pi ..., lasted 12 years - this is the same strong argument to your comment!

[voyaka uh]

You came up with this argument!

[sabakina]

Quote: 210ox

In vain we think that the old woman of Europe has flabby muscles .. The Bundeswehr has always been and will be a high-class motivated army.

After the Treaty of Versailles, the Germans were very motivated and offended. So you're right when you write the Bundeswehr was upscale motivated army. "

[Coconut]

ugh you gosh .. again you have to stomp across europe .. again share poland .. germany and generally put things in order ... i really thought it would never happen again .. but no it seems i was wrong

[jonhr]

or stomp or rot somewhere. one out of two. drown then not all

[Jack]

Well, you’ll have to rot anyway, so the world is conceived, but the Basurmans will have time to lay dust!

[jonhr]

I'd love to see you in the forefront

[Professor]

For that fought for it and ran. When NATO was nothing, it was not necessary to shout about the threat on its part. Now, NATO has really begun to strengthen. A new Cold War and a new arms race can no longer be avoided.

[starogil]

NATO, even now, is NOTHING in itself.

[cniza]

Quote: starogil

NATO, even now, is NOTHING in itself.

That you got excited, do not underestimate them.

[Professor]

Quote: starogil

NATO, even now, is NOTHING in itself.

You tell it in the Kremlin, otherwise their "threat from NATO" has become an obsession.

Quote: Hagalaz

As for me, the logic is "0". If it’s not difficult, explain how the statements about the threat from NATO led to the strengthening of this block.

The logic is simple. NATO did not threaten Russia and was a paper tiger, but the Kremlin inhabitants decided to come up with an external enemy for the people. They succeeded. All kinds of Iskanders and tank armades in the western direction that have no analogues in the world, and also official threats to roll out half of Europe with these tanks. Now, NATO has begun to strengthen in response.

Quote: Finches

.NATO, like you, almost swore on the Bible they would not expand to the East, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops, the unification of Germany, but in the end, they somehow forgot about it ..

Tales Yeltsin's tales, God-bearer, tell others. There were no such promises. Moreover, before NATO expanded to the East, Russia, having violated the status quo, deployed its military ten kilometers from the border of the NATO country.

Quote: Hagalaz

I can’t give links, I don’t store it.

Blown away.

Quote: Finches

"- The very fact that we are not ready to deploy NATO troops outside the territory of Germany gives the Soviet Union direct guarantees of security," Werner’s words are quoted on the alliance’s website.
You hear? NATO Secretary General spoke of guarantees not to deploy alliance troops beyond German territory. About guarantees! Further in the text

Russian is not native? Yes? The phrase “we are ready not to post” does not constitute any obligation. No warranties. Moreover, in this context, it sounds like "we are going to post, but ... there are options."
Further in the text.
Nobody knows what is going to happen tomorrow in the Soviet Union, against the background of a Soviet military might that remains formidable.
No one knows what will happen tomorrow in the Soviet Union, amid the military power of the Soviet Union, which remains huge.

Without the Atlantic Alliance there can be no cohesion and unity throughout the Free World, no transatlantic partnership, no security and stability.
Without the Atlantic Alliance, there can be no cohesion and unity in the whole Free World, transatlantic partnership, security and stability.

In fact today we need this more than ever as we face enormous tasks that make it imperative to combine, not fragment all the forces of the free West, including those of North America.
In fact, today we need this more than ever, since we are faced with enormous tasks that require unification, rather than fragmentation, of all the forces of the free West, including North America.

The most important tasks are:
The most important tasks are:

2. to assist Gorbachev and those forces working for reform as long as their reforms seek to promote democracy, freedom, pluralism and the market economy;
2. To help Gorbachev and those forces that are working on reforms, while their reforms are aimed at promoting democracy, freedom, pluralism and a market economy.

Neutrality or non-alignment of the united Germany are not acceptable for us.
Neutrality or non-alignment with any of the alliances of a united Germany is not acceptable to us.

We have to find solutions that respect the legitimate security interests of all the participants - including the Soviet Union. I emphasize: all participants; in other words not only the Soviet Union. That nation has a right to expect that German unification and Germany's membership of the Atlantic Alliance will not prejudice its security.
We must find solutions that respect the legitimate security interests of all participants, including the Soviet Union. I emphasize: all participants, and they are only the Soviet Union. This country has the right to expect that the unification of Germany and Germany’s membership in the Atlantic Alliance will not prejudice its security.

Further translate?

tm there are not those words that NATO will not expand to the East or is ready not to expand. Quite the contrary. All speech is riddled with calls for strengthening NATO. So stop fantasizing. learn materiel.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Professor

For that fought for it and ran. When NATO was nothing, it was not necessary to shout about the threat on its part

I do not agree with you.
when the adversary is weak it’s right to show that you’re afraid of him and vice versa if you’re really strong then pretend that you don’t even notice him.

[Hagalaz]

Quote: Professor

For that fought for it and ran. When NATO was nothing, it was not necessary to shout about the threat on its part. Now, NATO has really begun to strengthen. A new Cold War and a new arms race can no longer be avoided.

As for me, the logic is "0". If it’s not difficult, explain how the statements about the threat from NATO led to the strengthening of this block.

[analgin]

Quote: Hagalaz

Quote: Professor

For that fought for it and ran. When NATO was nothing, it was not necessary to shout about the threat on its part. Now, NATO has really begun to strengthen. A new Cold War and a new arms race can no longer be avoided.

As for me, the logic is "0". If it’s not difficult, explain how the statements about the threat from NATO led to the strengthening of this block.

Simply, for some reason, Russia decided that it could compete on equal terms militarily with the United States and NATO combined. And alright, I would have done it in a smart, methodical way and without loud statements like: "In which case we will take Ukraine in a week, and the Baltic states in 3 days." Without all these "radioactive ashes" and other unnecessary bravado.
Now here are the budgets of the countries of the North Atlantic bloc, which previously did not substantially reach the required 2 percent, will be significantly increased.
How this confrontation will end, both financially and militarily, I think few people doubt.
And what was this for?

[Hagalaz]

Quote: analgin

Quote: Hagalaz

Quote: Professor

For that fought for it and ran. When NATO was nothing, it was not necessary to shout about the threat on its part. Now, NATO has really begun to strengthen. A new Cold War and a new arms race can no longer be avoided.

As for me, the logic is "0". If it’s not difficult, explain how the statements about the threat from NATO led to the strengthening of this block.

Simply, for some reason, Russia decided that it could compete on equal terms militarily with the United States and NATO combined. And alright, I would have done it in a smart, methodical way and without loud statements like: "In which case we will take Ukraine in a week, and the Baltic states in 3 days." Without all these "radioactive ashes" and other unnecessary bravado.
Now here are the budgets of the countries of the North Atlantic bloc, which previously did not substantially reach the required 2 percent, will be significantly increased.
How this confrontation will end, both financially and militarily, I think few people doubt.
And what was this for?

Do not pass off your own thoughts and Western propaganda as Russia's intentions, okay? Regarding Uraina and the Baltic states, let's not rely on the cries of the locals and note that there are private haters. At least without reference, please name an official Russian statesman who: a) expressed his intention to compete militarily on an equal footing with the united west, and b) who was going to smash the Baltic states and Ukraine, in general, and at the time you specified.

[Finches]

Professor

The chosen professor, I look principle and rushing, but what can you tell us about the Israeli behavior in Sobibor - that is, as your ancestors from the furnace, at the cost of your life, so is Russian Ivan, and how to share grants for the construction of the memorial with the Poles. ..NATO, like you, almost swore the Bible did not expand to the East, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops, the unification of Germany, but in the end, somehow forgot about it ... Do not once again distort the objective reality!

[Hagalaz]

But the current objective reality is that the people of the West are systematically preparing for the next war against Russia and the God-chosen ones are not averse to getting their gesheft. And some here with their ernism.

[analgin]

Quote: Finches

.NATO, like you, almost swore on the Bible that they would not expand to the East, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops, the unification of Germany, but in the end, they somehow forgot about it ...

Who swore and when? Link, pliz.

[Hagalaz]

Quote: analgin

Quote: Finches

.NATO, like you, almost swore on the Bible that they would not expand to the East, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops, the unification of Germany, but in the end, they somehow forgot about it ...

Who swore and when? Link, pliz.

Analgin, judging by the statement, you speak Russian normally and therefore had to understand that Zyablitsov speaks allegorically and exaggeratedly, and not spread his fingers. And since it is assumed that you are an informed person, you probably know that guarantees of non-expansion of NATO were given to Gorbatom verbally. About this and Mechnyi spoke in an interview, and his then negotiating partner. I don’t remember who, maybe Schroeder, but I could be wrong. By the way, he also recognized the fact of such obshchany in oral Thomas. I can’t give links, I don’t store it. As an advanced person on the Internet, dig it yourself, unless of course you really are not familiar with the issue.

[analgin]

Quote: Hagalaz

I don’t remember who, maybe Schroeder, but I could be wrong. By the way, he also recognized the fact of such obshchany in oral Thomas. I can’t give links, I don’t store it. As an advanced person on the Internet, dig it yourself, unless of course you really are not familiar with the issue.

I am familiar with the question. That is why I ask for a link to "By the way, he also acknowledged the fact of such publicity orally."
But I'm sure that you will have problems with this.

[Hagalaz]

Yes, there is a problem. I do not remember the name of the documentary, nor its author, in which the participants in the process recognized the fact of oral promises.

[Hagalaz]

Analgin, what do you say to Zyablicev’s more reasoned answer than my emotional one?
Looks like in the West where your thoughts hover and hope feeds you information very selectively.

[jonhr]

what guarantees to whom? when Germany united, then the Warsaw Pact existed. was the USSR. who then could have thought that the 3 Baltic countries would be in NATO at that time? but the fact that they refused the Warsaw Pact and joined NATO is their choice. and because they now need to blame themselves exclusively on NATO.
that's why everyone is running away from you? answer this question yourself

[Finches]

Especially for you, my little friend: archive of the official website of the NATO Press Office http://nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm and what can we find? Transcript of a speech in Brussels by the Secretary General of the Manfred Werner bloc on May 17, 1990.

"- The very fact that we are not ready to deploy NATO troops outside the territory of Germany gives the Soviet Union direct guarantees of security," Werner’s words are quoted on the alliance’s website.

You hear? NATO Secretary General spoke of guarantees not to deploy alliance troops beyond German territory. About guarantees! Further in the text

If you don’t have enough, The Los Angeles Times. You will find the link yourself, I'm too lazy. On the eve of the Warsaw NATO summit, US journalists examined archives. And the manuscript records of US Secretary of State James Baker were excavated during his talks with Gorbachev in 1990:

“NATO’s terms of reference will not advance east by an inch,” Baker wrote."

[jonhr]

these countries that east joined NATO themselves. and their troops automatically became alliance troops.

[alexsipin]

Quote: Finches

Professor

The chosen professor, I look principle and rushing, but what can you tell us about the Israeli behavior in Sobibor - that is, as your ancestors from the furnace, at the cost of your life, so is Russian Ivan, and how to share grants for the construction of the memorial with the Poles. ..NATO, like you, almost swore the Bible did not expand to the East, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops, the unification of Germany, but in the end, somehow forgot about it ... Do not once again distort the objective reality!

Voting at UNESCO half a year ago Remember about Jerusalem? Then Russia voted in favor of an anti-Israeli resolution. Now the answer has come, also along the cultural line - the hint is clear.

[Finches]

Jews, yes you must Russian coffin soldier of life ... They came up with an answer!
Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Gross-Rosen, Majdanek, Ravensbrück, Auschwitz ...- continue? Did the answer fly in? Gratitude is a synonym for decency! You, apparently, God's chosen people, this is not characteristic!

[alexsipin]

Quote: Finches

Clowns!

Do not be shy, go on.

[Finches]

I apologize! It escaped - but I was corrected! And I expect objectivity from you!

[alexsipin]

Quote: Finches

I apologize! It escaped - but I was corrected! And I expect objectivity from you!

And what do you see the lack of objectivity? Russia does not recognize the Jewish character of Jerusalem. Well, imagine that UNESCO does not recognize the Russian-Orthodox character of the Moscow Kremlin. Will your country then support countries that voted against it?

[Finches]

We are talking about the historical justice and objectivity of Israel, and its gratitude, but not about UNESCO’s behavior - the fact remains, Israel didn’t give a damn about historical objectivity by choosing the current situation for itself ... Deal with it! We are not offended!

[alexsipin]

Quote: Finches

We are talking about the historical justice and objectivity of Israel, and its gratitude, but not about the behavior of UNESCO - the fact remains, Israel did not give a damn about historical objectivity by choosing the current situation for itself ...

Israel made it clear to Russia that it was ready to go along with it as a united front against rewriting history. We are probably the only country in the world where monuments to Soviet soldiers are not destroyed, but established, where Victory Day is state. pazdnikom and it is May 9th. Israel, together with Russia, supported the appeal to Poland on the demolition of the monuments of owls. to the soldiers. There was a wonderful tandem opposing the neo-fascists in Europe. And you took it and ruined everything.

Quote: Finches

Deal with it!

Yeah, we substitute the second cheek.

Quote: Finches

We are not offended!

Of course, we saw yesterday how Zakharova was "not offended."

[Finches]

The fact remains - whatever you say - for some reason Sobibor liberated by Russian soldiers is building Poland, which was occupied, Slavakia, which was not in the project, and Israel, which was in the project, but from the time of Jesus ... Where is justice here? 250 Hebrews found their end here, but how many were saved, for example, thanks to the courage of the Russian officer Alexander Pechersky ... I'm not talking about today's relationship, but about Justice! Which you apparently forgot about! Thanks for the dialogue!

[alexsipin]

Quote: Finches

Sobibor liberated by Russian soldiers

Soviet soldiers of Jewish origin and Jews - citizens of Poland. Non-Jews in Sobibor were only guards - Germans and Ukrainians. It was not a stalag for prisoners of war, but a extermination camp for Jews.

Quote: Finches

the courage of the Russian officer Alexander Pechersky

Pechersky Alexander Aronovich - Soviet officer of Jewish nationality

[Hagalaz]

Eugene (if you will allow me), I am writing late (I can read it), but I deliberately did not interfere in your dialogue with alexipine. And what can you say that those who spit on historical objectivity now, for the sake of the political situation and those whom they managed to destroy in the death camps, belong to different sections of the Jewish community? And the latter sacrificed the political situation of those years.
This is my opinion, if that.

[Dargavs]

It was necessary not to say, but to document the conditions for the unification of Germany by restrictive legislative acts. Now thanks to Gorbatom.

[Doliva63]

Hunchback was respected by fans of jeans, Pepsi and prostitutes, who were so lacking in the USSR to feel complete freedom. They are right now. Especially when fagots were allowed.

[VAZ2106]

Now other times, the Germans are not going to attack anyone, it’s good that the Ministry of Defense understands this

[Holsten]

And the troops will come in handy for them - to repulse their cities from refugees. Refugees arrive mainly of draft age, with an active lifestyle \ to take away, beat, rape \, soon they will get tired of sitting on benefits, they will demand a tribute to pay, again women will be needed for harems.

[Altona]

Quote: 210ox

The Bundeswehr has always been and will be a high-class motivated army.

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In the light of recent ideological views and the entry into the service of soldiers of an unknown sex, requiring lipstick, nail polish, tights and stilettos, it is doubtful.

[On guard]

There is already a muslimman more than Germans.

[Music]

Heir to the Wehrmacht again on the tank! History made a lap of honor.