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Poroshenko: "The Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day"

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko praised the work of the Kiev factory, which carried out modernization tank T-72A, taking into account the experience of the Armed Forces in the Donbass, reports RIA News.



The T-XNUMHA battle tank became even more secure and effective. When modernizing the state-owned enterprise “Kiev Armored Plant”, the experience of the Ukrainian military in the ATO zone was used to the maximum. Also, thanks to changes in the state budget for the 72 year, Oplot tanks will go into service in the Ukrainian army,
Poroshenko wrote in Facebook.



Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day!
concluded the president.

Attached to his record video with a modernized tank.

Recently, the concern "Ukroboronprom" reported that one of its enterprises - "Kiev Armored Plant" - has developed a new modernization of the main battle tank T-72AC. It is noted that, among other things, the specialists of the plant installed on the machine the dynamic protection of the new generation “Knife”, which is already used on Oplot and Bulat tanks. This will significantly "reduce the effectiveness of means of destruction of tanks," added the concern.
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RIA News / State concern "Ukroboronprom"
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  1. Astoria
    Astoria 20 August 2017 15: 48
    +15
    That is, it is no longer necessary to steal the T-90 wink
    1. svp67
      svp67 20 August 2017 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: Astoria
      That is, it is no longer necessary to steal the T-90

      According to the reservation, these are completely different tanks, so for the “familiarization” with the T-90 they certainly would not be in the way, like BM Oplot.
      In this regard, China has the most excellent position ...
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 20 August 2017 15: 55
        +2
        Why do you think our strangers are unfamiliar?
        1. svp67
          svp67 20 August 2017 16: 02
          +6
          Quote: Astoria
          Why do you think our strangers are unfamiliar?

          The acquaintance is “nodding”, but one must be close in order to understand the true level of this tank.
          Why aren't you so familiar with each other? So they already did it without us. And this is how they did it arouses interest. If it is good to consider the T-64BV tank detached during the explosion, by the way produced during the Soviet era, when control was the highest, then many questions arise for this control and for the production culture in general.

          That's interesting, but what do they have with it now?
          1. Astoria
            Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 05
            +7
            Based on the feces from which Dozor-B was made and the shame that went to Thailand - there is little sense in acquaintance.
            1. Equalized
              Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 10
              +7
              What is the shame of tanks sent to Thailand? there were no complaints except the delivery dates from the Thai side of the EMNIP!
              1. Astoria
                Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 20
                +5
                The fact is that it is a piece-wise assembled designer from parts of old tanks.
                1. Equalized
                  Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 22
                  +6
                  Already 100 times dismantled this topic. There is a photo of all stages of the production of Oplotov, even a detailed photo of the production of engines surfaced yesterday ... but people continue to ruffle the old record. None of this is NOT a constructor.

                  The Pakistanis were shown ALL production stages for review, because the Pakistani side is going to purchase 100 tanks (in case the Ukrainian side fixes problems that the Pakistanis did not like during the 2015 tests of the year).

                  Do you think the Pakistanis are DULL?
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 20 August 2017 16: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: Equalized
                    Do you think the Pakistanis are DULL?

                    They are now FORCED to go either this way, since they had previously purchased a T-84 from Ukraine or bowed to China, which they certainly do not want. Pakistan is clearly trying to get away from "Chinese addiction." But, it seems to me that they put the wrong “horse”
                    1. Equalized
                      Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 28
                      +4
                      Pakistan and China, as it were in close cooperation, are sculpting MBT Al-Khalid based on Chinese technology with Ukrainian MTOs and engines. Why would they get off the Chinese needle then? smile

                      Interest in the "Bastions" most likely comes from the fact that previously purchased T-80UD from Ukraine. Machines are unified in many ways.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 20 August 2017 16: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: Equalized
                        Pakistan and China, as it were in close cooperation, are sculpting MBT Al-Khalid based on Chinese technology with Ukrainian MTOs and engines. Why would they get off the Chinese needle then?

                        That would not be addicted.
                        Quote: Equalized
                        Interest in the "Bastions" most likely comes from the fact that previously purchased T-80UD from Ukraine. Machines are unified in many ways.

                        So much so that it’s enough to change the tower and hang not a lot of extra armor to make another one.
                    2. Mavrikiy
                      Mavrikiy 20 August 2017 17: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: svp67
                      Quote: Equalized
                      Do you think the Pakistanis are DULL?

                      They are now FORCED to go either this way, since they had previously purchased a T-84 from Ukraine or bowed to China, which they certainly do not want. Pakistan is clearly trying to get away from "Chinese addiction." But, it seems to me that they put the wrong “horse”

                      It looks like you are only on vacation. And the situation in the world is changing even in a week, not by 180, but by 360. China supports Pakistan against India. And this is not a departure from "Chinese dependence." Most likely, the "partners" want to get any extra hundred "boxes" for a showdown with India.
                    3. Settlement Oparyshev
                      Settlement Oparyshev 20 August 2017 17: 21
                      0
                      Don’t tell my slippers. Someone is leaving. China finances Ukraine through Pakistan. China climbs to Dill without soap. Pakistan, this is China’s left foot and North Korea’s right.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 20 August 2017 18: 07
                        +2
                        Quote: p-k Oparyshev
                        Don’t tell my slippers. Who is leaving? China is financing Ukraine, through Pakistan. China is climbing into Dill without soap

                        That you do not make laugh. China there has already LOST 5 billion dollars on contracts for the supply of Ukrainian grain and for the acquisition of ports on the Black Sea ... So, China no longer creeps into Ukraine, but tries to draw more or less useful things out of it, I don’t fit into them territory.
                  2. Astoria
                    Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 29
                    +3
                    Yes, at least two hundred laughing when a bespectacled boy rubbed old diamond engineers about rhomboid armor, and craftsmen in the graphic editor drew tyrex, gun barrels were put on a contract from t-64.

                    With armor the same calico, who will produce it? The one who is on Dozor-B, then well ahead and with the songs.

                    And without guns and armor, what kind of tanks are these. wink
                    1. Equalized
                      Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 34
                      +9
                      How did you drag here the project of those who went from the "Aziv Engineering Group" and the propaganda story to the bastion of tanks? When will people learn to separate such things from common sense and bring only FACTS as arguments?

                      Dozor-B "is produced" by the Lvov BTRZ which, as it were, NOT a tank factory and has never made armor, unlike ZiM. Of course they had problems and will be.

                      As for the Ukrainian armor, it is produced / made in several places. Hulls are cooked at LKMZ (Lozovsky Forge and Mechanical Plant), directly at the Malyshev plant and, more recently, in Zhitomir. They make bulletproof glass in Mariupol. There were also enterprises in the territory of Donbass, which may now supply products.

                      Because for the "Motor Sich" blades from Snezhnoy steadily go despite the war.
                      1. Astoria
                        Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 44
                        +1
                        Yes, do not boil. You are so wink . For Dozors, who made the bulletproof glass - it was made by Mariupol. Well, he did it blindly - what can I say, it seems there were attempts to even improve it - after which it became somewhat more expensive wink but whether it’s better is a question.
                      2. Pirogov
                        Pirogov 20 August 2017 17: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Equalized
                        How did you drag here the project of those who went from the "Aziv Engineering Group" and the propaganda story to the bastion of tanks? When will people learn to separate such things from common sense and bring only FACTS as arguments?

                        Dozor-B "is produced" by the Lvov BTRZ which, as it were, NOT a tank factory and has never made armor, unlike ZiM. Of course they had problems and will be.

                        As for the Ukrainian armor, it is produced / made in several places. Hulls are cooked at LKMZ (Lozovsky Forge and Mechanical Plant), directly at the Malyshev plant and, more recently, in Zhitomir. They make bulletproof glass in Mariupol. There were also enterprises in the territory of Donbass, which may now supply products.

                        Because for the "Motor Sich" blades from Snezhnoy steadily go despite the war.

                        A very large percentage of Patrols with Polish armor, and as I heard it is better than Ukrainian.
                  3. Astoria
                    Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 34
                    +1
                    Pakistanis are the second Indians who have been building their tank for half a century, and it turns out a narrowly applicable vehicle.
                    1. Normal ok
                      Normal ok 20 August 2017 18: 00
                      +2
                      Quote: Astoria
                      Pakistanis are the second Indians who have been building their tank for half a century, and it turns out a narrowly applicable vehicle.

                      It’s not clear from your post who has been making his tank for half a century: Pakistanis or Indians? I’ll tell you - "half a century"neither do the one nor the other.
                      1. Astoria
                        Astoria 20 August 2017 18: 06
                        +1
                        Tips for yourself wink for 2011, the Arjun project was 37 years old. And what happened in fact, you can read here on the forum.
                  4. Astoria
                    Astoria 20 August 2017 16: 49
                    +2
                    Not a complicated equation - if they make the 49th tank for Thailand what is already the 7th or 8th year, how long will it take to make a hundred tanks for Pakistan? wink
                  5. Nahatak
                    Nahatak 20 August 2017 18: 22
                    +1
                    You are one of the few who adequately make assessments. Because 99% stupidly see the propaganda and begin to tear the vest ((((Regarding the patrols, they had to fix the patrols produced by the Lvov Armored Tank, they made the corps themselves. But the first mockups were made at the Kharkov and Kiev factory for exhibitions and for other show-offs.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 20 August 2017 18: 39
                      +2
                      Yeah, the cock praises the cuckoo for praising the cock. laughing
                      What kind of propaganda we are talking about - wipe your eyes, your publications wrote about the Watch and the problems of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine: Apostrophe, Depot, Unian. No need to shift from their sick little heads.

                      I understand that facts are stubborn and I really want to live in captivity of illusions and pink elephants:

                      On July 14, 2017, the director of the Lviv Armored Plant Roman Tymkiv was arrested. According to the investigation, Tymkiv controlled the scheme according to which old engines were installed on T-72 tanks instead of new ones. Used engines were previously decommissioned from the Armed Forces and resold to private firms. Then the dealers from the Lviv Armored Plant bought them, having mastered the funds, 10-15 times higher than the price at which the engines were originally purchased from the Armed Forces. So the Ukrainian army got back its decommissioned engines. Attackers earned on this scheme 28,5 million hryvnia (about $ 1 million).
                  6. APASUS
                    APASUS 20 August 2017 18: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Equalized
                    Already 100 times dismantled this topic. There is a photo of all stages of the production of Oplotov, even a detailed photo of the production of engines surfaced yesterday ... but people continue to ruffle the old record. None of this is NOT a constructor.

                    Share information when it began to produce gun barrels in Ukraine? I could not remember the Sumy Pipe Plant to master the technology, there are no other productions at all. The 1996 Pakistan contract was fully equipped with gun barrels from Russia.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 20 August 2017 18: 54
                      0
                      There the devil will break his leg, what bought or twisted from where, and then screwed to. But all this was long ago, the question is what is now?
                  7. K-612-O
                    K-612-O 20 August 2017 22: 20
                    +1
                    A small question: how can Ukraine produce new tanks in the absence of production of tank guns? It was bent by the Croats, and ours did it under license, the Serbs would not sell, and no one else made cannons for Soviet tanks.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 21 August 2017 00: 13
                      +2
                      Science is unknown to this question. laughing
              2. svp67
                svp67 20 August 2017 16: 22
                +5
                Quote: Equalized
                What is the shame of tanks sent to Thailand? there were no complaints except the delivery dates from the Thai side of the EMNIP!

                Do you think that a complete disruption of the delivery time, and that means re-equipment, is not a shame? You have some strange vision of this issue. Take the money, but the goods will not be delivered on time ...
                1. Equalized
                  Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 23
                  +5
                  I do not think so. It is specifically about the quality of the tanks, which was not a problem from the Thai side.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 20 August 2017 16: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: Equalized
                    It is specifically about the quality of the tanks, which was not a problem from the Thai side.

                    And we’ll find out about this in three years. What and how, while they are “warranty”, I wonder when the warranty will end. Although, I think that the Thais will not be very worried about this, since they will purchase the right amount of tanks from China and will not be bothered anymore.
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          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 21 August 2017 03: 23
            0
            In LPR, the two captured Oplot 2 years already in service.
            1. svp67
              svp67 21 August 2017 06: 04
              +1
              Quote: Sith Lord
              In LPR, the two captured Oplot 2 years already in service.

              You are confused with Bulat. Ukrainians cherish "strongholds" like the apple of an eye
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 21 August 2017 11: 29
                +1
                Your truth, I was wrong.
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 20 August 2017 16: 05
          +6
          Without words ! Video onlybully laughing
          1. viktor_ui
            viktor_ui 20 August 2017 17: 30
            +1
            Greetings. Is there infa about comedy whose footage is used in this Big Trouble ???
      2. Monos
        Monos 20 August 2017 15: 56
        +13
        Piglet again went on the route number 29. Understand. I myself ride it sometimes. smile
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 20 August 2017 18: 33
          +4
          I’m afraid to grieve, the second destination is Budikhino. There are no parachutes at all ...
      3. Astoria
        Astoria 20 August 2017 15: 56
        +1
        What reservation can modern Ukraine offer?
      4. Proxima
        Proxima 20 August 2017 16: 11
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        The T-72A battle tank has become even more protected and efficient. ... Poroshenko wrote on Facebook.

        You still can’t play enough of them in tanks. angry (THEY ARE SAME CHILDREN) belay
      5. raw174
        raw174 21 August 2017 14: 19
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        like us BM "Oplot"

        I think that we need it just like Armata, the tank will not appear on the barn field, 10 pieces for parades are not enough, not just for war, but they will not be built anymore, for ourselves at least ...
    2. Logall
      Logall 20 August 2017 15: 56
      +17
      Quote: Astoria
      That is, it is no longer necessary to steal the T-90 wink

      For a dream, nothing is needed!
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 20 August 2017 15: 57
      +8
      Poroshenko:
      ... "The Ukrainian army is becoming stronger every day" ...

      This monster is partly right ...
      This armed gang - flesh from flesh - is not finished in / on used Ukraine ...
      They really become stronger, only stronger not in spirit or military skill - in them the banderlosha thirst for stupid murder becomes stronger ...
      1. Logall
        Logall 20 August 2017 16: 02
        +16
        Quote: Andrey K
        thirst for stupid murder becomes stronger in them ...

        But this herd is raising offspring! Soon we will encounter breeding individuals. With them now, something needs to be done ...
    4. 210ox
      210ox 20 August 2017 17: 03
      0
      I’ll tell you a terrible secret ... You can even buy it .. In Kiev. In a toy store. So copying is not a problem.
      Quote: Astoria
      That is, it is no longer necessary to steal the T-90 wink
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 20 August 2017 18: 09
        0
        Well then, for the game of soldiers it will do.
    5. Slovak
      Slovak 20 August 2017 22: 38
      0
      ... you don’t need a knife for a fool, you’ll show him a penny to do with him that he’s good ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 20 August 2017 15: 50
    +1
    And it seems to me that these tanks will go beyond the “non-blocking”, painfully “running” product, unlike the T-64.
    And honestly, it’s too painful for “budget” modernization, a new DZ, closed ZPU, a digital one, as I understand it, a Turkish radio station, a caterpillar from the T-80, but the Luna floodlight was not removed, which means that the night-vision devices are old.
  3. kefan
    kefan 20 August 2017 15: 50
    +2
    Petsya again apparently rolled in the morning.
  4. K-50
    K-50 20 August 2017 15: 57
    +3
    Poroshenko: "The Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day"

    You need to drink less (army too) and any nonsense will stop visiting you. yes laughing
    Poroshenko praised the work of the Kiev factory, which carried out the modernization of the T-72A tank

    And where is the "decommunization"? belay
    And doesn’t you use the Moskal tank and jump from it? belay
  5. Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 20 August 2017 15: 59
    +5
    I come from Ukraine, Nikolaev.
    grandfather was the head of the slipway on the 61st. went to the descent of ships, officially released from school.

    It's a shame or say sorry to look at Ukraine. could not organize, build, improve.
    I hope this strange period passes quickly and changes in the minds come.
    1. HAM
      HAM 20 August 2017 16: 02
      +7
      Those with heads long ago in Israel. Remained only with pots.
    2. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 20 August 2017 16: 10
      +1
      Don’t hope it won’t pass. Even fools aren’t talking nonsense now .. feel
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 August 2017 16: 13
      +5
      Maki Avellevich
      It's a shame or say sorry to look at Ukraine. could not organize, build, improve.
      I hope this strange period passes quickly and changes in the minds come.
      It’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off. Nothing will be there anymore. In any case. Never, nobody will invest so much money in this cesspool. As in the USSR. Nothing is already there. And will not be.
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        2. opus
          opus 20 August 2017 17: 57
          +2
          Quote: Equalized
          In Georgia, we also do not know about such losses))))

          Sorry, but not in the subject, but in Georgia they know that on August 8 of 2008, a general by the name of Barankevich personally knocked out a Georgian tank from a grenade launcher.


          The torn tank tower flew several tens of meters, broke through the visor of the building and got stuck in the porch. Now everything was restored, and the tower was left as a monument.

          In general, do you know about Donbas and Lugansk


          15.08.2017
          ა სასწაულმა გადაარჩინა ავნაბადას ბატალიონის მებრძოლები სიკვდილს



          You just do not want to confess to the world
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 20 August 2017 18: 04
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "44 (200 cargo), UK citizens." ////

        Interestingly in the UK they know about such losses?

        This is a loss, taking into account the capture of London (according to Zakharchenko).
      3. opus
        opus 20 August 2017 18: 05
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Interestingly in the UK they know about such losses?

        They know, they know.
        You are not looking there (Do not Daily Mirror need to look)
    2. K-50
      K-50 20 August 2017 17: 24
      +3
      Quote: pani-Iria
      Losses of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine. Full list

      What a harvest! belay
      This is work in Stakhanovsky !!! yes good
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 20 August 2017 18: 03
      +2
      Quote: pani-Iria
      Losses of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine. Full list

      "Cargo 200". Losses of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine FULL LIST. "So, how many of them," soldiers of fortune ", who returned to their homeland with the" 200 cargo "?

      - 122 (cargo 200), citizens of Poland.

      - 112 (200 cargo), person, US citizens.

      - 70 (200 cargo) people are citizens of Canada.

      - 56 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Latvia.

      - 60 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Georgia.

      (Collapse)

      - 50 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Estonia.

      - 44 (200 cargo), UK citizens.

      - 90 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Lithuania.

      - 20 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Australia.

      - 12 (cargo 200), + 1 man sniper Michael Skilt, citizens of Sweden.

      - 10 (200 cargo) people, citizens of Azerbaijan.

      - 211 (200 cargo) PMC man from Poland "ASBS Othago" - (Analizy Systemowe Bartlomiej Sienkiewicz), led by the Minister of Defense of Poland.

      - 80 (200 cargo) person PMC from the United States Greystone.

      - 150 (cargo 200) a man of PMCs from the USA "Asademi" (before 2009, known as Blackwater).

      Baltic women snipers lost 34 people.

      And after all, they were professionals, contractors against miners, chemists and steelworkers ...
      We believe Mr. Poroshenko.

      Source please. RT, please do not specify.
      1. opus
        opus 20 August 2017 18: 31
        +2
        Quote: Normal ok
        Source please. RT, please do not specify.

        https://vk.com/al_feed.php?w=wall-57424472_153751




        etc.
        hz. believe or not
        confuses:
        Leopard tank - 1 units on 23.10.2014


        approx.
        32 employee of the CIA, FBI and Mossad, (20 - cargo 200, 12 - cargo 300). 29 July, (300 cargo) in Izum, Kharkov region - the head of the ATO and the head of the US advisers, Major General Randy Key. (200 cargo) his three deputies, US officers! 18 August, (cargo 200)


        Kei Randy Alan at 2015 was alive





        2014
        During the attack, three American officers were killed, one of whom, presumably during his lifetime, was a woman - only the crown of his head with bleached hair remained from him. In addition, General Ki Randy Allen, who actually commands the punitive operation of the Ukrainian troops in New Russia, was wounded. Given the adviser shot by a sniper on 30 on July at Mariupol Beach, from the 180 American military who came to Ukraine, 10 has already been killed. And this is for an incomplete week.
  7. Equalized
    Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 19
    +10
    And what exactly is Poroshenko wrong? Even against the background of mass corruption and sloppiness - the APU really is getting stronger. Until. In terms of size, the APU surpasses most armies in Europe and are almost the most armed. All this is achieved due to the huge military-industrial complex that the USSR left, capable of reanimating even the most killed pieces of equipment that were stored "under the fence." And not the easiest. Okay, there are tanks or infantry fighting vehicles, but since the 2014 of the year quite a few resuscitated aircraft of all types have been reanimated, having increased the number of aircraft in the Air Force significantly (I had articles on counting all types of L / A). Since 2014, many teams have been created. 53, 54, 57, 58, 81, etc. Armed with equipment from conservation, the army was inflated to 250 000 personnel (excluding the National Guard and other police units).
    Imagine how much technology it took for so many brigades. Now, estimate the amount of losses in the tentative OTBR and OMBR during the 2014-2015 period, which were replenished in the same way from repair and imagine the scale. They are huge.

    BUT. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have big problems and they will most likely not be felt now, but in a few years. The main problem is the resource of technology. We can say that at the moment the APU are at the peak of their capabilities.


    Despite the large number of defense plants, it is impossible to constantly maintain equipment in perfect condition due to repair and cannibalism. Sooner or later, it will exhaust its resource and will be subject to replacement. And here the problems begin.

    If the military-industrial complex of Ukraine has no problems with repair, then there is a problem with serial production of equipment, and most importantly with money. When Soviet and modernized technology runs out of resources, replacing it will be very very difficult. The peak of combat readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin to fall significantly according to my calculations of years through 5. The number of Su-27 and MiG-29 aircraft will again be reduced to the level of up to 2014 of the year, if not worse with their current flying time (they fly really a lot).

    So IMHO if the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to start hostilities, then it is more profitable for them to do this at a time when their combat readiness is at the highest level in technical terms and in terms of human resources. They simply are not financially capable of maintaining this level constantly.
    1. CommanderDIVA
      CommanderDIVA 20 August 2017 16: 45
      +1
      VSU already has problems with certain types of ammunition
  8. Equalized
    Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 37
    +2
    svp67,

    Yeah ... there would be T-80UD, which are not. We have already argued on this topic. You can not find any evidence of the presence of such a quantity of T-80UD in Ukraine, look where you want. Lol
    1. svp67
      svp67 20 August 2017 17: 14
      +3
      Quote: Equalized
      Yeah ... there would be T-80UD, which are not. We have already argued on this topic. You can not find any evidence of the presence of such an amount of T-80UD in Ukraine, look where you want. Lol

      Here it’s not much clear how this applies to the T-72A modernized in Kiev. Or do you already have a conversation with yourself?
  9. Equalized
    Equalized 20 August 2017 16: 45
    +1
    Astoria,

    Nobody did the armor for shame. She was bought in Poland. And welded in Lviv, where it cracked.
    1. Astoria
      Astoria 20 August 2017 17: 00
      +1
      I did not hold a candle there, but I guess how it was: at first they stated that there were difficulties with the ZIM products and decided to buy Polish, but in the end it turned out that it was not Polish - but at the price of Polish.

      Regarding the Zhytomyr plant, there is information - that ordinary steel with NLMK passed through a number of foreign gaskets.
    2. svp67
      svp67 20 August 2017 17: 24
      +3
      Quote: Equalized
      Nobody did the armor for shame. She was bought in Poland. And welded in Lviv, where it cracked.

      And for the "Iraqi" BTR-4 in Kupyansk, if I’m not mistaken, they tried to cook the armored hull ... With the same result
  10. wow
    wow 20 August 2017 17: 02
    +5
    In a poor, impregnated state, something "becomes stronger" only in a sick (from alcohol) imagination. Delirium tremens, nothing can be done ....
  11. izya top
    izya top 20 August 2017 17: 14
    +3
    Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day!
    concluded the president.
    attacked again request
  12. svp67
    svp67 20 August 2017 17: 22
    +2
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    And this is not a departure from "Chinese dependence." Most likely, the "partners" want to get any extra hundred "boxes" for a showdown with India.

    Well, do you even understand WHAT year they will get this hundred? Will Pakistan need it by then?
  13. Kerensky
    Kerensky 20 August 2017 17: 23
    +2
    I don’t get it ?! All fuss because of the painted tankA ?! One tank! This is not even the level of a plant director or chief engineer ....
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 August 2017 17: 23
    0
    Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day!
    I would read fairy tales, I would be smarter, I would say better: "Not by the day, but by the hour"
    And so - sucks. Gray.
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  16. Alexander War
    Alexander War 20 August 2017 17: 32
    0
    Parashenko will soon announce the European connecting rod plan
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  18. Simon
    Simon 20 August 2017 18: 22
    0
    From “Carnet” will not go away, from him even the vaunted “Ambrams” turns into dust! fool laughing
  19. Simon
    Simon 20 August 2017 18: 25
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    Quote: XXXIIII
    Poroshenko: "The Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day"
    The army already has large stockpiles of weapons. wassat

    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Astoria
    Why do you think our strangers are unfamiliar?

    The acquaintance is “nodding”, but one must be close in order to understand the true level of this tank.
    Why aren't you so familiar with each other? So they already did it without us. And this is how they did it arouses interest. If it is good to consider the T-64BV tank detached during the explosion, by the way produced during the Soviet era, when control was the highest, then many questions arise for this control and for the production culture in general.

    That's interesting, but what do they have with it now?

    And, that on the crap of the next ruin will go, but rather in scrap!
  20. Simon
    Simon 20 August 2017 18: 28
    +2
    Quote: Alexander War
    The most drinking army on the planet or maybe in the galaxy

    Yes you! They consider us as padded coats and drunks! wink But they don’t see themselves. laughing As you can see, if the eyes themselves are flooded. fool
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 August 2017 19: 35
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      But with this they see a bright future and at the moment this is the only way to see a bright future in in Ukraine - the recipe is simple, ten glasses in yourself, and then without brakes.
  21. captain
    captain 20 August 2017 19: 10
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    Gina is easy to let out of the bottle;
  22. anjey
    anjey 20 August 2017 19: 12
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Maki Avellevich
    It's a shame or say sorry to look at Ukraine. could not organize, build, improve.
    I hope this strange period passes quickly and changes in the minds come.
    It’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off. Nothing will be there anymore. In any case. Never, nobody will invest so much money in this cesspool. As in the USSR. Nothing is already there. And will not be.
    Now the West is moistening in Ukraine, they desperately need another anti-Russian state, and these hells of Mephistopheles bought all the intellectual layer with giblets and what can we say about ordinary people ....
  23. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 20 August 2017 19: 22
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    [Quote] [/ quote]
    So where is even stronger? Even when aa were the strongest! lol tongue
  24. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 20 August 2017 19: 30
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    svp67,
    Are you sure that China has lost, but not knowingly paid?
  25. Altona
    Altona 20 August 2017 19: 58
    +1
    Quote: Nahatak
    You are one of the few who adequately make assessments. Because 99% stupidly see the propaganda and begin to tear the vest ((((Regarding the patrols, they had to fix the patrols produced by the Lvov Armored Tank, they made the corps themselves. But the first mockups were made at the Kharkov and Kiev factory for exhibitions and for other show-offs.

    ----------------------------
    Well now is the APU stronger than ever? They riveted the armored cars, overlaid the tanks with “knives”, sewed the uniform in a fashionable pixel. laughing laughing
  26. Govorun
    Govorun 20 August 2017 21: 32
    +1
    Poroshenko: "The Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day"
    And President Poroshenko is getting drunker every day ...
  27. - = ANTRAX = -
    - = ANTRAX = - 20 August 2017 21: 36
    +2
    the strongest army in the galaxy already?
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  29. LeonidL
    LeonidL 21 August 2017 02: 28
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    Potroshenko said ... he has already said a lot. The new tank resembles the old IS-3 in front. Maybe they used the latest developments of the seventh-classman who created tanks from cardboard?
  30. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 21 August 2017 03: 20
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    And what ? tanks are not subject to decommunization !!! ??? or a piece of iron stuck, you can consider the Ukrainian production.
  31. sgr291158
    sgr291158 21 August 2017 06: 22
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    He dreams about him in drunken dreams.
  32. Altona
    Altona 21 August 2017 10: 10
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    Quote: - = ANTRAX = -
    the strongest army in the galaxy already?

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    The Ukrainian army is on the American path — boasting and PR, posing for the public. They have a well-equipped pidrozdila (albeit informal) called the Azov regiment, which wears expensive camouflage and berets, is armed with good assault rifles, and has armored Toyota and tanks. But in some military successes this "regiment" was not seen, it was only seen in raiding and looting.