How to wipe after spitting? Results of the anti-Russian campaign in London

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Quietly and almost imperceptibly a show was held in London about which I would like to say a few words. And about the participants.


Yulia Levchenko (Ukraine) - silver medal, Maria Lasitskene (ANA) - gold medal, Kamila Litsvinko (Poland) - bronze medal. RIA News. © Anton Denisov



They wrote about him not so little, but somehow reluctantly or something. But what was written, and surprised, and outraged at the same time on both sides of the front line.

For those who do not know: the All-Russian Athletics Federation was excluded from performances in connection with the anti-doping scandals of the past.

However, I, at the World Cup someone spoke. I was surprised not by the fact that someone “fought out” for the World Cup, but how it was served. Including the comments of Mr. Mutko, who strenuously pretended that in fact nothing of the kind had happened, everything is fine.

19 people who have been allowed to compete are strong. There is still the whole question - how!

The fact that they performed under the flag do not understand something neutral - this is half an orange.

The IAAF has imposed a ban on the use by Russian athletes of sportswear of the colors of the national flag, symbols of the country should not appear on the body of athletes (you can not dye your hair in tricolor colors, stuff tattoos, jewelry, taping, manicure, etc.).

Russian (?) Athletes have even been banned from using the country's national anthem as a ringtone on a mobile phone. The ban also applies to accompanying athletes who are also forbidden to appear next to the objects of the World Cup with flags. The IAAF checked the appearance of Russian athletes for compliance with the rules; in case of their violations, the athlete would be disqualified.

We will talk about outright disrespect from the "partners" later, for what, in fact, can be expected from the great Anglo-Saxons? But this is really the third question, if not the last.

But reading the words in some notes, you just wonder.

"Russian athletes at the London World Championships in Athletics, speaking under a neutral flag, took command of the ninth place."

Team place u don't understand anyone. The team, if I understand correctly, is when it is just there. Under the flag of their country, with symbols and paraphernalia. With the anthem, in the end, if successful, and raising the flag - in the case of the podium.

It is clear that everyone knows and knows: these are sportsmen from Russia, citizens of the Russian Federation who are “under sanctions”. But why consider the “command place”? They did not represent any team at the tournament. Everyone was on his own, under a white rag with black letters ANA (association of neutral athletes) and with a total prohibition to at least somehow identify their affiliation.

So all these attempts to give the team a few athletes - the desire to make a good face on an absolutely nasty game. But in this regard, we have a professional Mr. Mutko, he is no stranger. The Minister and in bright colors gives an interview about the action in London, and receives participants.

There is no need to talk here about how guilty our athletes are in terms of doping. The fact that they gave a reason is a fact, as well as some kind of muck sounded unequivocally, today in sports, apparently, without it. The only question is who got caught.

That's who should - he got caught.

But I'm not about dope, I'm about the flag.

The first thought that comes to mind is that there is nothing better than this. Impersonal and under incomprehensible rag. Then there comes the idea that sportsmen are not to blame for political intrigues, and so on. And sports life in some sports is very short.

And we should have time. And at the world level in the competition to participate, and, of course, to earn money. As an example, I will cite the statement of the St. Petersburg athlete, the only one of all the athletes of Northern Palmyra who agreed to participate in the winter European Championship under a neutral flag. Anastasia Kalina, champion of Russia in running 1500 meters.

“Of course, I do not refuse the flag of my country! I am Russian, and always ready to play for my team! But what if we do not give such an opportunity? Before the suspension, I managed to play for the national team only in one start. And you want to compete with the strongest runners, to show yourself is a normal desire ”(from the interview“ Sport day after day ”).

Do you all understand the essence? Yes, not all sportsmen think so, fortunately. But here's an example: when everything is fine, tournaments shine, awards, cars from Putin - all are patriots. As soon as the problem happened - as they say in the people, “they separated by the edges”, and all this patriotism is seen in the coffin. Your problems, as they say.

By the way, here you can quite realistically calculate the cost of patriotism and the value of state attributes for each individual athlete. It is possible in rubles, it is possible in dollars.

Well, this is a matter of conscience of everyone. The question is even different. What's next?

All this fuss reminded me of one great movie. “Kin-Dza-Dza!”, More precisely, an episode at the end.

Paczaki, well, you're with the Tzaks and in the cage. But why standing? Standing can be there ... In Russia, for example. And here - on my knees. And in muzzles. And rejoice, rejoice in particular and in general.

They say that everyone understands exactly which country the speakers represent “under a neutral flag”, and each such victory glorifies Russia anyway. It is doubtful, to be honest. Or, as an option, it is simply not clear how and with what such victories can praise our country.

Well, the flag athletes lowered, raised instead of another. Under which "is better than nothing." In the historical context is very similar to the actions of 75-year-old.

There were also people who believed that "it is better this way than it is different." And stood under the flag of the POA. Vlasov.

Say, a tight comparison? Why, if we talk about the flag? It is quite vital. Here are just reinforced soldering bitterly in the throat, then some got up. In the literal sense of the word.

But those who choose dishonor should understand that even if they, at the request of the organizers of the next event, publicly trample the Russian flag, sports sanctions will not be lifted.

Not for that, actually.

But the reinforced soldering under another flag may well and entice. Well, of course, the athletes are not to blame for the fact that they were forced to eat, do not understand what, right? And, in order not to let the talents disappear, you just need to evacuate them. There, where they consume understand that, where they can realize themselves.

The simple approach is this, and far from new. Renounce And everything will be for you. And rations, and new beautiful form, and conditions. Only renounce. And we will help. We will extend the sanctions, we will delay the proceedings, we mix in “new facts”.

Wait, this is just the beginning. Reconnaissance It will be the same in other areas. Without any doping.

After all, there are still scientists, writers, cinematographers - yes, everyone who somehow faces international communication.

Dissertations will turn out to be not the ones that are stolen from books ... And the sentence will still be the same. Renounce Fill with chocolate.

International sport today is a de facto alternative to war. And the battles are going the same way, we are against them. War? Well, yes, while bloodless, but indicative.

A fight without a flag is no longer a fight. If the ship lowered the flag, it means - surrendered. Who needs, besides the participants and specialists, these “neutrals”? Yes to anyone.

Perhaps I’m wrong about something, but for some reason I don’t really care that these “neutrals” win there. Because they are competing for their own sake, and not for the country of which I am a part.

"Oh sport, you WAS the world!"

They spat at us, putting such personal conditions of the participants for ... "neutrals" with the citizenship of Russia, so we call them.

There were those who wiped and went to win. Well, their choice. Let's see under what flags we will see them in a couple of years.

Personally, I consider everything that the organizers at the World Championships in London have pissed off as blatant Russophobia and meanness. Again, waiting for something human from the British is nonsense.

This is war, war on all fronts.

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  1. +43
    21 August 2017 06: 40

    Modern gladiators speak only for money. Soon, in addition to the players, all other athletes will be bought and sold. There football players celebrate a loss-win equally. And what? Payment guaranteed.
    Professionalism, in addition to at least initial skills, implies responsibility, and neither athletes nor management have it. And of course * professionals * from sports do not have moral and ethical standards, as superfluous in achieving only their important goal.
    1. +34
      21 August 2017 07: 18
      Quote: Vasily50
      Professionalism, in addition to at least initial skills, implies responsibility, and neither athletes nor management have it.

      But I DO NOT AGREE. Most ATHLETES have it. Since it is they who earn the money our sport lives on. They INDEPENDENTLY pay coaches, doctors and even a bunch of staff from the amount that they receive for winning.
      But the "bureaucrats", they suck this money from them, for NOTHING. Are there such "bureaucrats" do we need?
      1. +53
        21 August 2017 08: 03
        Fighting without a flag is no longer a battle. If the ship lowered the flag, then it surrendered. Who needs these “neutrals”, in addition to participants and specialists? Yes, no one. - from article

        I agree with the author. Performance of athletes “without a flag” and state attributes is a betrayal.
        There is no permission to represent the state - you need to ignore these competitions, no matter how important they are, even though the Olympic Games.
        No need to put in the forefront of "interests" of athletes, "the years spent in preparing for these competitions." International sport is politics, and above all politics, where a particular state demonstrates its flag and its capabilities, its power, if you like. And here the interests of one or several individuals must cede, be suppressed by the more important interests of the country where they live.
        1. +18
          21 August 2017 11: 48
          So you are a traitor - the one who votes 25 years for the bourgeois who disgraced the country already below the plinth. You are a traitor who, instead of voting for parties with human ones. programs, lies on the couch and yells foolishly that he is “against everyone. You’re a traitor who gets a gray salary, works for left-handed people, adjusts to the master in violation of the Labor Code and condemns athletes for such actions. You’re a traitor who leads his own business is hiding from taxes and fees by any means .. Continue, moralist?
          1. +13
            21 August 2017 20: 42
            between us. we work together, organized their own LLC. to get 45tp zp you need to pay 20tr of taxes and fees. is this normal at all? do not count 40-45% we give to the state in the form of taxes. therefore, everyone is hiding. here rent an office, a garage, buy tools and equipment, register and pay in the authorized capital (25tr), find an order, give a kickback, then repair and flip taxes 40%, and how did the state help me?
            1. +4
              22 August 2017 06: 41
              Eeee, and you do not study for labor protection? You need to learn the craftsmen working in compulsory disciplines and one profile (for builders, as a rule, PTM and five more at least). And also pozh. minimum. Not only that, but also time to spend on organizing and getting crusts. You do not relax with labor protection, but conclude an agreement with a specialist and organize certification of workplaces. And then ....
              1. 0
                23 August 2017 23: 46
                sro costs 250tr for three is a lot)
            2. +2
              22 August 2017 23: 01
              Between us - you vote for the vampire capitalists further. You will be paid even more taxes by your LLC.
              And if for garlic, then in the same Europe there are more deductions than in Russia. This is a fact of reinforced concrete.
              1. 0
                23 August 2017 23: 52
                my conscience is clear, I am for a united Russia and the Liberal Democratic Party did not vote even once. The corporate income tax rate in Germany is 15%. If we also take into account the surcharge for solidarity (5,5% of the corporate income tax base) and trade tax (amounting to about 14%), we can reach the general tax rate on corporate profits at almost 30%. we have as a result about 40% ie in Europe nifiga no more.
        2. +35
          21 August 2017 11: 56
          08.03/100. Vladimir! I agree with you 80%! How much can you humble yourself before the West? In America, in the XNUMXs they simply boycotted the Olympics! Why can't Russia boycott international competitions? They humiliate us, and we climb, humiliate us, and we climb! Is not this situation disgusting to our leadership? Why should we always be patience? What is this inferiority complex? Why do not we impose sanctions, do not boycott, do not create alternatives ??? We love to talk about a multipolar world, but we stubbornly do not want to abandon the unipolar world and are stubbornly trying to get in with at least a rag! We have no more allies left! Why do they need us! After all, we ourselves are stuffing in the allies of the West! Why be an ally of a footman? It feels like in our leadership, people are morally omitted! And to be a floor rag about which they wipe their legs, this is their normal condition. But then they call themselves LORD! They are morally omitted, not gentlemen! And their place is in the steam ... and not at the helm of the state! hi
          1. +5
            21 August 2017 20: 49
            Quote: Region 34
            They humiliate us, and we climb, humiliate us, and we climb!

            You are absolutely right! They humiliate each of us, but we are not climbing, but those who drive us and our country.
          2. +8
            21 August 2017 21: 10
            Quote: 34 region
            08.03/100. Vladimir! I agree with you 80%! How much can you humble yourself before the West? In America, in the XNUMXs they simply boycotted the Olympics! Why can't Russia boycott international competitions? They humiliate us, and we climb, humiliate us, and we climb! Is not this situation disgusting to our leadership? Why should we always be patience? What is this inferiority complex? Why do not we impose sanctions, do not boycott, do not create alternatives ??? We love to talk about a multipolar world, but we stubbornly do not want to abandon the unipolar world and are stubbornly trying to get in with at least a rag! We have no more allies left! Why do they need us! After all, we ourselves are stuffing in the allies of the West! Why be an ally of a footman? It feels like in our leadership, people are morally omitted! And to be a floor rag about which they wipe their legs, this is their normal condition. But then they call themselves LORD! They are morally omitted, not gentlemen! And their place is in the steam ... and not at the helm of the state! hi

            Mudkovskaya system.
            You survive, and you climb! Without soap ...
            And the president is on the side of the wise, otherwise he would have long ago given in the ass
          3. +1
            24 August 2017 21: 49
            Can boycott, easy! The question is - why? if this is precisely what the Western propaganda machine is seeking? After all, the boycott of the Moscow Olympics was filed as a protest against the entry of our troops into Afghanistan. What does this have to do with sports / doping and so on. - no. It's just a PR action, though well-done. And now a completely different case! Well, we are boycotting - the conclusion of app. Media: Russians are afraid to compete because everyone is doping - we told you !! And it is precisely the performance of ours, really clean (and someone doubts how they were checked?) That allows us to turn into a clowning final at 100m in men where the 2nd deserved 35-year-old wins !!! Carl, he's 35 and he's a sprinter !! dopist from the USA. And believe me, world sports opinion is by no means on the side of such “exceptional.” And maybe our athletes, for example, gave an impetus to the sports arbitration in Lausanne to establish a real real punishment for the dopingist Johaug for steroids !! And then her federation will give the girl as much as 2 months of disco, and the court took 18 and soldered, and according to the law! Oh, what a chic hysteria of all the Norwegian “asthmatics” was, how the dopistist was pouring tears that her life was broken .. And I will say this - I’m satisfied with the ruins of the Reichstag! And let it be partisan neg poison without a flag, uniform and anthem.I'm not a formalist !! Think about it
          4. +1
            27 November 2017 17: 35
            And after that they are humiliated to sell gas-oil-timber-salmon coal. You need to teach your children something to them. Yes, and the house in Spain, too ... Not in Sochi de buy so that then there in a strange hymn to swim.
        3. +6
          21 August 2017 12: 14
          Quote: vladimirZ
          I agree with the author. Performance of athletes “without a flag” and state attributes is a betrayal.
          There is no permission to represent the state - you need to ignore these competitions, no matter how important they are, even though the Olympic Games.
          No need to put in the forefront of "interests" of athletes, "the years spent in preparing for these competitions." International sport is politics, and above all politics, where a particular state demonstrates its flag and its capabilities, its power, if you like. And here the interests of one or several individuals must cede, be suppressed by the more important interests of the country where they live.


          If neutral athletes are traitors, then businessmen and bureaucrats, then who?

          They drink and eat Russia under worthless slogans and after that they are patriots ?!

          And Sharapova, who lives in Matrassia and the like, are legionnaires, footballers and hockey players - PATRIOTS glorifying Russia?

          "Neutrals" (the term from the article) at least live and work hard (work) in Russia! (they do not belong to bureaucrats and businessmen - they have completely different feeders!).
          1. +15
            21 August 2017 12: 46
            But I was just disgusted when some Mutki choked about some athletes without a clan and without a tribe, about their successes, but this is not a Russian team - these are private traders who earn points for themselves. I personally do not mind - it is everyone’s business to choose their own home and homeland, for one they have one homeland, for another homeland where it’s sweet to eat and drink deliciously, albeit under the yoke, and so on, the person who has a great a power or a rootless whip, which suits everything, and spitting in your country and humiliating restrictions, the main thing is that you would be noticed and invited to a good salary in the future, and this has nothing to do with sports - this is business and nothing personal.
          2. +2
            21 August 2017 13: 15
            And this schizophrenia is like that of the current bourgeois patriots. They all vote together for the ghouls-capitalists, but at the same time they scold and envy the athletes - people from the same people who were lucky enough to earn relatively big money.
        4. +17
          21 August 2017 17: 50
          VladimirZ, and you did not try to look from the other side? People have been training for 3 years to get into professional sports! Investing, often, their own and a lot of money. They put everything at stake, health, time, money, a career. In fact, they only know how to do this (and not for long). In addition to the joy of victory, this is their only bread. Try starting from 3 years old to go to the result, and then break off due to some kind of ephemeral policy. You will not contain this person?
          1. +9
            21 August 2017 18: 55
            People have been training for 3 years to get into professional sports! Investing, often, their own and a lot of money. - De Laert

            They put their work into sports achievements, but there are big doubts about “considerable money”. This money is mostly state, personal money there, compared with state, a scanty amount.
            The state invests in them so that they represent Russia in the big politics of international sports.
            If such athletes do not represent Russia after certain results, but leave for the dough under the flag of another state or for some reason refuse the flag of their homeland, for the sake of professional sports, as a rule in foreign countries, this is not a betrayal.
            Exactly the same betrayal, as scientists learned with state money, and then went abroad for a high salary.
            The mentioned officials and oligarchs, who placed their capital in offshore and foreign countries and defend the interests of other states to the detriment of their own, are also betrayal.
            Such a betrayal is “wrapped” in a beautiful package “to get into a professional sport”, to achieve success in science, to invest money in a profitable business and so on. But by and large, they all contrast their personal success, prepared by the financial, labor costs of the entire state, to the success and achievements of Russia.
            Yes, present-day capitalist Russia, having proclaimed the priority of personal law over public law and interests, has advanced far in distorting patriotism, conscience, the homeland, finally exchanging these concepts for the concepts of a "golden calf", has embedded in people indifference to the pride and honor of the country that nurtured you, to the place of future residence outside one’s own country.
            Why is this done? - For the destruction of Russia, to erode the unity of the Russian (Russian) people, weaken its moral foundations, deprive it of a better human gene pool, turning a single people into a scattered mass of people who are not capable of anything, neither creative work, nor the defense of their state.
            1. +8
              21 August 2017 20: 12
              This money is mostly state, personal money there, compared with state, a scanty amount.

              But you, that you can immediately see you are far from real sports ... As long as the child enters the school of the Olympic reserve, the state, except for the coach on the meager salary and the stadium, often gives nothing conditionally free. All that is at the expense of parents and sometimes team sponsors. Forgive the state stadium and the coach, this generally refers not to the sport of the highest achievements, but to mass physical education, but in fact this very state obliged itself to develop. Yes, and after the athlete always spends on himself a lot of money in addition to what the state gives.
              And yes, people mentioned car-type gifts here, but I'm sorry it’s not the athletes who determine what and how much to give them, but the state itself. And corruption from these gifts is often a mile away.
            2. +3
              21 August 2017 22: 08
              Quote: vladimirZ
              But by and large, they all contrast their personal success, prepared by the financial, labor costs of the entire state, to the success and achievements of Russia.

              They say they are financing units. And the majority also pays to the state for playing sports.
            3. +3
              21 August 2017 23: 32
              VladimirZ, try to send the child to hockey or football ... equipment (very expensive), training fees, parental time, study time. Nerves, injuries, mistakes and falls. You’re getting ready for about 15 years, and they tell you that you’re not going anywhere.
              Yes, at some stage the state is connected, but then when you show some results.
          2. +10
            21 August 2017 20: 45
            a soldier has been “training” since he was 18, investing health, time, possible earnings in a civilian life, communicating with his parents, and it happens that life is like that. And he does it, in fact, just for the sake of the flag
          3. 0
            25 August 2017 21: 21
            Quote: De Laert
            You will not contain this person?

            do you offer regret? in general, it humiliates pity. But this situation is simpler. Everyone makes his own choice. The state has not created an alternative. It is much cheaper to organize competitions with the same prize pool at home! You look and the results would be better and calmer at heart and care and pride.
        5. +4
          21 August 2017 19: 22
          Quote: vladimirZ
          And here the interests of one or more individuals should be inferior, suppressed by the more important interests of the country where they live.
          I just sob ... sob from the article and from the angry ur comments. Yes, you were bred by the Anglo-Saxons ... like children, dragged into the war in their own field, and you are glad to jump and fight in hysteria. And that no one thinks that the defeat is not that two dozen athletes performed without reference to the country, in this case to ours, but this is not the first and not an isolated case, but they convinced us that Sport is war and politics with all that it implies. But sport is not a war, and if an athlete decided to act as an independent one despite the country's disqualification, this is his right. In the end, he spoke for his honor and conscience, but he could also for the flag of another country. If we consider sport as a policy, then ask how it turned out that we were left behind and swallowed it, we had to go to Vitalik the Unsinkable, and to the Bezalternative, with Dimon ... But blame them against the authorities for shaming, and you can kick it at least safely.
        6. +2
          21 August 2017 20: 34
          and what is your gratitude for the fact that they refuse to speak? how many names of those who refused to speak do you remember. Not a single one. And about "no need to put interests", well, yes, the athletes are not people, but livestock, which should stand in the stall when woe-writers who cannot run 3 km so as not to suffocate will proudly raise their nose to talk about whether to think about them. Do not think, and at the next world competitions, they, seeing that the native the country doesn’t consider them to be people will advocate for other countries, then what? you’ll go put up world rivers dy and earn medals? I do not think
          1. +1
            23 August 2017 19: 38
            And what do sports “victories” personally give you ?! NOTHING!!! That is, absolutely !!! Defense products can be used in civilian life, and sports "achievements" where ....................
            1. 0
              23 August 2017 22: 54
              and sporting achievements motivate children to play sports, what increases the health of the people, sporting achievements increase the prestige of the state, enough?
              1. +1
                24 August 2017 03: 40
                Exercise does not add health))) That physical education - yes.
                1. 0
                  24 August 2017 19: 41
                  Exercising correctly enhances health
        7. +1
          23 August 2017 08: 15
          Quote: vladimirZ
          International sport is politics, and above all politics, where a state demonstrates its flag and its capabilities, its power, if you like.


          This is so.

          Moreover, as practice shows, those who sacrificed honor do not stand on ceremony. Even in the West. Not to mention small handfuls of specially bred (to promote betrayal). In general, this is a proven scheme, and elevated to the rank of one of the elements of ideology in the West. So it goes.
        8. 0
          24 August 2017 21: 56
          Oh, what are we all patriotic - "a fight without a flag is no longer a fight." And in the environment, but the flag really is not, and the boots from the killed Fritz are removed and the German carbine is also the identity ?? Not patriotic too? Yes, those soldiers who were fighting our country in boilers, encirclements and blockades defended such a screamer as you would have slapped at a quick and in a minute you would have forgotten this biomass. Because the matter was with them, like our athletes, but one thing is clear with you - to open the mittens wider, but the trouble is, you can’t see the mind)).
      2. +24
        21 August 2017 08: 33
        Quote: svp67
        But I DO NOT AGREE. Most ATHLETES have it

        And there is responsibility, and conscience, and patriotism.
        And the comparison of athletes with Vlasovites is absolutely inappropriate: Vlasovites are traitors. The athletes did not violate ANYTHING, neither the oath to the state, nor its instructions, nor its orders, nothing !. But the STATE structure involuntarily put them under attack.

        And who determined that not going to the championship is patriotic? Nobody anywhere.

        It would be better who asked (told) -WHERE the promised courts, arbitrations against slanderers of the McClaren or at least their attempts? A-no them. And-silence (and in the media, too) .... And what does this mean?
        1. +29
          21 August 2017 09: 17
          Olgovich Today, 08:33 ↑ New
          And there is responsibility, and conscience, and patriotism.
          Well, yes, there is, BUT only those who did not go to speak under a white rag ...! All who spoke were actually traitors. And Roman is right a hundred times, let's see under what flag and for which country these athletes will compete in 2-4 years.
          And the comparison of athletes with Vlasovites is absolutely inappropriate: Vlasovites are traitors. The athletes did not violate ANYTHING, neither the oath to the state, nor its instructions, nor its orders, no-thing!
          If for athletes there is no official oath as in the army, then this does not mean that we should spit on the moral and ethical side of the issue. And from a moral point of view, they are no better than any traitor.
          But the STATE structure involuntarily put them under attack.
          What is this ?! Just don’t tell me that RUSADA ... There would be no doping scandal, would come up with something else. Americans, British, Danes and other "civilized" peoples are eating dope buckets and it doesn’t bother anyone! And what, the guys just have a syndrome, do not understand what and general asthma, and therefore they are not only possible, but also necessary.

          So do not la la about poplars here ... This is a deliberate war against Russia and those who caved in and stood under a white rag, the very real traitor who crossed over to the enemy's side under a white flag, period! And no other way. There are no two opinions here and cannot be. You cannot be half pregnant, just as you cannot be half a traitor!

          P.S. Well, yes you are not the first time to whitewash traitors, you are actually doing this in VO!
          1. +19
            21 August 2017 11: 17
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            P.S. Well, yes you are not the first time to whitewash traitors, you are actually doing this in VO!

            Fiery Dianna, so go and show an EXAMPLE to these "traitors" - give up your salary by quitting your job, you are working for the benefit of the capitalists, how does it fit with your communist views?
            It's time to understand:
            “A professional athlete” is a profession that has a very short experience. And they EARN MONEY by speaking at competitions.
            - these 19 people went to the competition, GETING permission from our Ministry of Sports. They did not betray or violate anyone.
            - World sport, it will be with great pleasure to take ANY OUR BOYCOT, as with this we ourselves will save them from VERY STRONG COMPETITORS.
            1. +22
              21 August 2017 14: 14
              And let's just put an end to this stupid argument. As BB said - flies separately, cutlets separately. These 19 people represented themselves exclusively. And not our Motherland. Is it bad? Well, here's how someone looks at life. They did not commit a criminal offense, respectively, they are not criminals or traitors. It is a fact. And I hope everyone agrees. But if claims to them from the point of morality? I have. For, there, they stumbled over the loot and sponsorship .. It's like a panel. In fact, they went to the panel, hoping to sell themselves more expensive. This generation is .. Do you imagine Rodnina under a white rag, and Bobrova, and Isinbayev ???? Personally, I don’t! And yet, Stop calling Sharapova (and others like her) a Russian athlete. They have long forgotten Russian too. It reminds me of how Selyuki cling to someone else's glory. Sharapova’s achievements are the achievements of American trainers, massage therapists, and doctors. This is a consequence of developed infrastructures. In addition to genes, there is nothing Russian there. I anticipate a sea of ​​indignation, but understand- abandoning these dubious achievements, we will maintain self-esteem and give the opportunity for real RUSSIAN athletes to show themselves. Yes, let's lose at first. But it will be our losses. And these athletes, under the white rags will not go!
          2. GAF
            +20
            21 August 2017 11: 38
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            If for athletes there is no official oath as in the army, then this does not mean that we should spit on the moral and ethical side of the issue

            Recently, in Italy, Belarusian Violetta Skvortsova left the podium when instead of the anthem of Belarus they included some crap allegedly due to an oversight of the organizers of the European Championship. Under pressure, she withstood the scandal - they apologized and repeated the whole procedure from the very beginning. It was thought that if any of these Heroes were in her place, they probably would have chewed the snot silently, however, a medal.
            1. +3
              21 August 2017 11: 48
              Quote: GAF
              It was thought that if any of these Heroes were in her place, they probably would have chewed the snot silently, however, a medal.

              That DO NOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE ,,,


              1. GAF
                +1
                21 August 2017 13: 04
                Quote: svp67
                That DO NOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE ,,,

                Where did you read my words about everyone. And for the examples, thanks
            2. 0
              24 August 2017 21: 25
              Sucks you sir, our athletes know !! Look for yourself judge ...
          3. +5
            21 August 2017 12: 20
            deny the flag, the country, humble yourself and obey and then you will get a lot of money ...
            old as the world, but the devil has lawyers laughing
            on topic from 3.02
          4. +2
            21 August 2017 12: 56
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            If for athletes there is no official oath as in the army, this does not mean that we need to spit on the moral and ethical side of the issue, and from a moral point of view, they are no better than any traitor

            Who determined what is moral and what is not? Aren't you? belay lol
            NOBODY didn’t forbid them ANYTHING from the state, but on the contrary, ALLOWED to participate in the World Cup.
            And they are not to blame for anything.
            1. +7
              21 August 2017 18: 59
              Quote: Olgovich
              NOBODY didn’t forbid them ANYTHING from the state, but on the contrary, ALLOWED to participate in the World Cup.
              And they are not to blame for anything.

              Well, in this case, it is not necessary to present all their achievements as a victory for our team. What the hell is the team under a white rag? And what of all athletes, only these nineteen are the most hungry?
        2. +1
          21 August 2017 18: 48
          Quote: Olgovich
          And what is this talking about?

          This means that you will begin to make excuses, you will be guilty.
        3. +2
          21 August 2017 20: 48
          they didn’t break anything, they just have no moral
      3. +6
        21 August 2017 11: 15
        The government spends more money on them than they earn. They have apartments and cars, and personal doctors. And tell the tales about what they themselves pay to doctors and coaches. Maybe they will believe. Tell me more that they themselves pay for transfers . Accommodation in hotels, meals.
        1. +3
          21 August 2017 11: 37
          Quote: zak167
          And tell tales about the fact that they themselves pay doctors and coaches to children.

          You do not tell tales. They pay. Each of the athletes give a percentage of the winning money.
          Quote: zak167
          Say also that they themselves pay for transfers. Accommodation in hotels, meals.

          No, it’s given to them for free ... And can you imagine how much they have to transfer and pay while they reach the level that they are guaranteed free travel, accommodation and meals? Not everyone comes to this. And if you take these specific athletes, then they could only take ONE accompanying person, so they decided who was most needed, a trainer, a doctor, a massage therapist ... everyone himself.
          I will say more that you consider only the time of their performance. And you will calculate their costs during the PREPARATION. Most of them are now training ABROAD, as only this gives them a chance to compete in top-level international competitions. And you want to say that there they also pay?
          1. +6
            21 August 2017 12: 09
            11.37. SVP67! And why the hell are they training abroad ?! Does it give them a chance to compete in international competitions !? But Russia has already sucked down that it’s not able to finance its sport !? Well, whose athletes are they then if Russia did not invest a ruble in them? And whose athletes if they are bought in the West? Is Russia going extinct? We can no longer give birth to athletes, not to train, not to finance them? What have we come to? We have all the best in the West! And cars, and computers, and athletes, there are still deputies to buy there and the president! And everything will be in the spirit of today's trend! The West will help us! Even Putin and Medvedev are asking him for help! Like this! Putin himself is not able to raise Russia! All hope to the West! So Ilyin is a thousand times right! This is another deflection under the West! hi
            1. +5
              21 August 2017 12: 23
              Quote: Region 34
              And why the hell are they training abroad ?!

              And this, because OUR OFFICIALS FROM SPORT CREATED SUCH TERMS, which they can not do otherwise. Either there is NO normal base, then for the same base IN THREE DEARLY TAKE, sometimes you won’t fall into international competitions.
              1. +6
                21 August 2017 12: 39
                I remember the unfortunate athletes had to unite in survival groups, and the names of these groups were so pitiful Tambov, Malyshevsky, but even this did not help many of these highly moral individuals.
              2. +8
                21 August 2017 13: 48
                Poor our professional athletes. Whether it’s a matter of Russian doctors, teachers and engineers, the state provides them with everything as it should! )))) But Yaroslavna’s cry will be heard only on capitalist show-athletes)))) And you will all run to vote for the capitalist Vova.
              3. +1
                21 August 2017 19: 05
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Region 34
                And why the hell are they training abroad ?!
                And this, because OUR OFFICIALS FROM SPORT CREATED SUCH TERMS, which they can not do otherwise. Either there is NO normal base, then for the same base IN THREE DEARLY TAKE, sometimes you won’t fall into international competitions.

                Well, just do not need la la. Our biathletes train at home and win international competitions.
                1. +4
                  21 August 2017 20: 25
                  Quote: Alex Ros
                  Our biathletes train at home and win international competitions.

                  Che really what? Half of them are at home a couple of months a year and so romp around the world. And biathlon has long been a sport sponsored state in its financing for tenth roles. It’s almost impossible to get into biathlon without a sponsor or rich parents. The price of normal equipment is too high, and so everywhere in sports from the state the athlete receives a minimum of the rest from sponsors and parents. But where budget billions go annually is another question for other people.
              4. 0
                21 August 2017 20: 49
                just because, they want to live where they can afford
              5. +6
                23 August 2017 10: 56
                The sports profession is their choice and their destiny. We in many professions pay little. So what??? Remember the situation in the 90s, the army, organs. Did everyone have apartments, normal conditions of service, timely and decent salary?
          2. +3
            21 August 2017 13: 44
            You still tell the tale that Daria Klishina had money to pay for an American coach in the United States, during her many years of trainings in America.
            1. 0
              23 August 2017 19: 45
              And you tell me that she was training there thanks to the generosity of Vitalik. Sport has long been commerce among serious athletes, serious sponsorship contracts. And yes, all of them spend it differently ... someone buys a Merc, and a hut in the center of Moscow, and someone spends on life and training in the United States, their right. There, in general, she may have a contract with a specific stadium that she trains for free on it, while acting as an advertisement for the stadium. This is quite a common contract for a serious athlete in the West.
          3. 0
            24 August 2017 21: 28
            Here’s a more or less reasonable opinion, and immediately the poop flew into you, and from people who generally have nothing to do with professional sports, I think that they saw banal physical education only on TV ... Is there a discussion with such people ??
      4. 0
        22 August 2017 08: 44
        But I DO NOT AGREE. Funds for the upbringing of patriotism, yes, they don’t allocate, but the treasury of Russia (minuscule for a millionaire) pays to coaches, doctors, and even a bunch of maintenance staff, but these "bureaucrats" are stealing like that .. and hard workers-athletes pay extra .... so I'm for patriotism. if I underpay "for patriotism", then I don’t give a damn ?? earned medals there, without a homeland and a flag? - there and stay !!
      5. +1
        23 August 2017 11: 35
        They INDEPENDENTLY pay coaches, doctors and even a bunch of staff from the amount that they receive for winning.


        But I wonder who paid all their costs when they were nobody and called them nothing? And then the flag was quite suitable for them. Comparison with Vlasov’s ROA is just a good comparison, and everything else is evil. As for example, the thesis that Vlasov was fighting the commissars is gaining strength now, and so on in the same vein.
    2. +6
      21 August 2017 15: 03
      There is such a profession - to sell the homeland!
  2. +19
    21 August 2017 06: 40
    But why consider a "team place"?
    You are a naive person who does not understand anything in "undercover games."
    I would very much like to see the MONEY BOOK of the officials of our track and field federation and the Ministry of Sports of Russia. WHAT ARE THE PRIZE for this "SUCCESS" they wrote to themselves there, with the permission of Mr. Mutko ... After all, they are now saying "foam at the mouth" that "ours", and whether your officials are 19 athletes won MORE medals than the entire athletics team at the last "pre-doping" championship ... Insanity. They put themselves THIS SHAME on merit.
    I will not throw a “stone” at our, nevertheless OUR, athletes. The current situation, when they are OBLIGED to earn money, for themselves and people from their teams, does not give them any other way. But ours, and here is it really ours, "bureaucrats from sports" how much can "blow bubbles"? Why do we need the Ministry of Sports in general, and in particular this federation, which can only receive money, and let them "blow bubbles". Maybe it's time to save on them, but to dissolve, and give their money to pensioners?
    Dear readers, do you think it is time to answer?
    Answer? And is someone ABLE to do this there? It is time to ASK the responsible persons for this and other shame. Here is what time to do.
    1. +10
      21 August 2017 07: 42
      In this situation, athletes are forced to choose either sports or unemployment. They do not know anything else. And do not blame them for unpatriotism. Because they are not the root cause, but the sports business and officials.
      Quote: svp67
      But why consider a "team place"?
      You are a naive person who does not understand anything in "undercover games."
      I would very much like to see the MONEY BOOK of the officials of our track and field federation and the Ministry of Sports of Russia. WHAT ARE THE PRIZE for this "SUCCESS" they wrote to themselves there, with the permission of Mr. Mutko ... After all, they are now saying "foam at the mouth" that "ours", and whether your officials are 19 athletes won MORE medals than the entire athletics team at the last "pre-doping" championship ... Insanity. They put themselves THIS SHAME on merit.
      I will not throw a “stone” at our, nevertheless OUR, athletes. The current situation, when they are OBLIGED to earn money, for themselves and people from their teams, does not give them any other way. But ours, and here is it really ours, "bureaucrats from sports" how much can "blow bubbles"? Why do we need the Ministry of Sports in general, and in particular this federation, which can only receive money, and let them "blow bubbles". Maybe it's time to save on them, but to dissolve, and give their money to pensioners?
      Dear readers, do you think it is time to answer?
      Answer? And is someone ABLE to do this there? It is time to ASK the responsible persons for this and other shame. Here is what time to do.
      1. +6
        21 August 2017 08: 04
        Quote: 210ox
        .For the root cause is not they, but the sports business and officials.

        As long as this root cause is at the forefront, in the person of business and money, there is no need to talk about any achievements in sports. My son’s friend, who plays football, was credited to the Olympic reserve (it seems so) and went back, and returned a couple of months later, well, he doesn’t need him there, he doesn’t have the right people with a furry paw, but now the Chinese have invited him, he needs him more than his homeland with bureaucrats.
        Now about doping, if I'm not mistaken, then back in the 30s, all the capabilities of the human body were achieved, and now there is a war of pharmacology, and we lose in it, since our doping is calculated at a time. And in fact, it’s difficult to play with crooks who have seven aces up their sleeve, and they know that they will divorce us in any way ((((((
        1. +5
          21 August 2017 09: 41
          Our "partners" simply took a different path - they did not try to develop undetectable doping, but simply took into the share of sports officials of international organizations who at once sign permits for the use of long-known and perfectly detectable drugs for "medical reasons". And our sports officials, apparently, decided to save money and insulted their higher colleagues in their best feelings, which was perceived by those as an attempt on the sacred - on their wallet. Well, they naturally got what they got.
          Another option is also possible - they brought in as much as everyone, but from the side of our sworn partners we received a much better paid order to "wet them in the toilet." So nothing personal is just a business.
        2. +6
          21 August 2017 12: 32
          Quote: Sirocco
          As long as this root cause is at the forefront, in the person of business and money, there is no need to talk about any achievements in sports. My son’s friend, who plays football, was credited to the Olympic reserve (it seems so) and went back, and returned a couple of months later, well, he doesn’t need him there, he doesn’t have the right people with a furry paw, but now the Chinese have invited him, he needs him more than his homeland with bureaucrats.

          I will tell you more. Now more and more children "from the hinterland and factory outskirts" are forced to leave the sports schools as bandits, as in the dashing 90s. Since there is no money for further professional growth.
      2. +3
        21 August 2017 11: 19
        There is always a choice. And first of all, they are citizens of Russia. They can go to another country and speak for it. And abandoning their country for one speech, this is worse than betrayal.
    2. BAI
      +3
      21 August 2017 12: 29
      See MONEY OF OFFICERS

      Why watch? just remember when the athletes leave the Olympics and when - the officials. Athletes leave immediately as soon as their competition is over, and officials walk from the first to the last day (of any Federation, (their athletes are gone, but they are)). Before the deadline, no one will fail for a minute.
  3. +8
    21 August 2017 06: 41
    Well done, our guys. In such difficult conditions of international pressure, they supported the country's sports honor.
    1. +14
      21 August 2017 06: 50
      Which country, tell me? A country is a flag, a hymn after climbing a pedestal. And here, the organizers forced to play by their own rules, athletes and their coaches were led to this.
      1. +5
        21 August 2017 07: 20
        And what country was defended by the football team of the bakery playing with the Germans and Rukhovites. Maybe there was a hymn or a flag of the USSR. Maybe you, too, will call them Vlasovites.
        1. +9
          21 August 2017 08: 00
          playing with the Germans and Rukhovites.
          That's just not necessary to confuse the pedals. Nobody drove anyone to London under escort; they didn’t force them to run or jump.
          1. 0
            21 August 2017 08: 23
            This author is all that can be confused by comparing them with the Vlasovites. And by the way, the bakery team was forced to play under the threat of execution. They defended the honor of the country, even in such conditions. And in London they defended.
            1. +4
              21 August 2017 11: 21
              And in London, they defended the honor of which country. That I have never heard the word Russia there. All about some sort of neutral flag was discussed.
              1. 0
                21 August 2017 12: 24
                Of Russia. Therefore, they were protected in the rules of conduct. But when they won, athletes from Russia won
        2. +3
          21 August 2017 10: 48
          kenu

          About * Dynamo * who played from the Bakery with the Germans a lot of tales and even more myths. And all because before the GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR they successfully played as policemen according to the documents, then they remained in Kiev, it seems like the war did not concern them. They were arranged for the thieves at the Bakery and they continued to play with the Germans. Raised their technical level. The fact that then the Germans and they began to be persecuted is the result of defeats at the front. Then many of those who * were neutral * or believed in * German culture * were raked, who were mobilized for * compulsory work *, who were sent to Germany and who were simply shot. Heroism was invented by these soccer players. I was ashamed of the betrayal of favorites.
          1. +1
            21 August 2017 11: 03
            Try to read why the Germans arrested and shot the players. Do not show everyone your dullness.
            1. +1
              21 August 2017 11: 43
              When children at the machine tools fainted from malnutrition, and young girls rescued the wounded under shells, the football player played soccer with the Germans. This is five points, I think. Well done !!!! Monument!!!!
              1. +1
                21 August 2017 12: 26
                And by the way, do not hesitate to defeat them
                And many others fought for the Germans, knocked on them, worked for them. And you are straight king Solomon who judges all.
                1. +4
                  21 August 2017 13: 16
                  As I understand it, you would also knock on the partisans and work for the Germans for a dry meal)))
        3. +1
          21 August 2017 19: 14
          Quote: Ken71
          And what country was defended by the football team of the bakery playing with the Germans and Rukhovites. Maybe there was a hymn or a flag of the USSR. Maybe you, too, will call them Vlasovites.

          You would hold your tongue, or else your fists would immediately comb out.
      2. +15
        21 August 2017 07: 20
        Quote: inkass_98
        And here, the organizers forced to play by their own rules, athletes and their coaches were led to this.

        Not the athletes were led, but our bureaucrats. The athlete is FORCED to do this, since this is HIS DIRECT work, and his age on it is VERY SHORT. He is nothing short of a living, not many others can do this. The athlete puts his health, and often life on it. And throwing stones at their garden is at least not right.
        1. +7
          21 August 2017 08: 07
          And throwing stones at their garden is at least not right.

          Why not fling. That chicken Stepanova / Rusanova, which testified (not from a great mind, but for a substantial reward, I believe) in this doping scandal, and then not having passed any qualifications, was also an athlete. With her activities, she just really “helped” her teammates. Jedem das seine.
          1. 0
            21 August 2017 08: 24
            No need to breed demagoguery.
          2. +1
            21 August 2017 11: 42
            Yes, you quit. They threw a bone to a fool of no hope, she grabbed it. She was paid very little money. Such mongrel Anglo-Saxons are paid at a minimum.
            1. 0
              21 August 2017 12: 28
              No need at all about her and her husband.
        2. +3
          21 August 2017 11: 24
          It was the athletes who took the lead. Remember when Isymbaev, the great pole-athlete, was not allowed to compete. Here she is a true patriot. And she was not led to act under some kind of flag, and not only she.
          1. +4
            21 August 2017 11: 54
            I have already noticed more than once that the most true patriots in our country are those who themselves live in Monaco or whose children study in London or Paris.
            Better than us, you know, they know how to love their homeland.
      3. +3
        21 August 2017 07: 41
        It was necessary to raise the flag of St. Andrew
      4. 0
        24 August 2017 21: 30
        I don’t know what the numbers in your nickname mean, if the year of your birth, then the nonsense that you wrote is excusable. If you are older, then you better keep quiet where the discussion goes above your intellect!
    2. +2
      21 August 2017 10: 11
      country honor
      Do you seriously know what honor is?
      1. +2
        21 August 2017 11: 06
        Hunt demogoguyu breed? It’s clear to everyone the representatives of which country were our athletes. And their victories supported the honor of our country more than the nagging pseudo patrioto who called to dig into the hole and not protrude.
        1. +4
          21 August 2017 11: 26
          Everyone is clear
          And then right, why a flag, coat of arms, anthem?
          Your pseudo-patriots, afraid to set the flag, stuck into the hole.
          You do not know not only about honor, but conscience is unknown to you! Be proud of the consumer.
          1. +1
            21 August 2017 12: 34
            Of course, you are closer to barking because of the fence at people who, in a frankly hostile environment with a lot of restrictions, have arrived and even performed quite well. Without the support and infrastructure of national teams. And you dare to bully them. What honor and conscience are you talking about after that?
            1. +1
              21 August 2017 14: 21
              Without the support and infrastructure of national teams.
              Are you stupid from birth, or did you loot your brains? Who is talking about athletes? It is clear that we are talking about the leaders of Russian sports and not only about them.
            2. 0
              21 August 2017 19: 28
              Quote: Ken71
              Of course, you are closer to barking because of the fence at people who, in a frankly hostile environment with a lot of restrictions, have arrived and even performed quite well.

              But what about the words of one athlete who was afraid that the Russian flag would be handed over to her from the rostrum if she won?
        2. +3
          21 August 2017 19: 23
          Quote: Ken71
          Hunt demogoguyu breed? It’s clear to everyone the representatives of which country were our athletes. And their victories supported the honor of our country more than the nagging pseudo patrioto who called to dig into the hole and not protrude.

          What is demagoguery? The honor of the country is supported by the flag of their state, by the performance of the anthem of their state after the victory, and so they supported a white rag.
    3. +6
      21 August 2017 19: 11
      Quote: Ken71
      Well done, our guys. In such difficult conditions of international pressure, they supported the country's sports honor.

      They supported their pants, not the honor of the country.
  4. +23
    21 August 2017 06: 50
    The old truth: whoever chooses between war and shame is a shame, he gets both shame and war.
    And sports bureaucrats, yes, just a tourniquet. Mutko, who has screwed up everything that is possible on the post of minister, is Deputy Prime Minister. Aircraft Federation - some people with reduced social and political responsibility.
    The one that without the prefix "vice" - this action fully understands and approves.
    It will not be surprising if at the last moment we spit in the face about OI-2018.
    1. +6
      21 August 2017 07: 21
      Quote: Moore
      The old truth: whoever chooses between war and shame is a shame, he gets both shame and war.

      And there is. But there is no fault of our athletes. Here the pure fault of "functionaries from sports"
      1. +7
        21 August 2017 07: 44
        Quote: svp67
        But there is no fault of our athletes.

        Actually a difficult moral and ethical question. The country with this flag and coat of arms paid for conditionally “our” athlete to become an outstanding athlete. After this, should the athlete feel responsibility for the representation of this country, the demonstration of the flag and anthem?
        Here each chooses his own. Belorussia leaves the pedestal, the Chinese skaters ignore the reassignment of the Americans. Our rejoice earned Eureka.
        1. +4
          21 August 2017 11: 12
          Quote: Moore
          Here each chooses his own. Belorussia leaves the pedestal, the Chinese skaters ignore the reassignment of the Americans. Our rejoice earned Eureka.

          And here you distorted ... Has the Belarusian athlete and the Chinese figure skaters refused the monetary reward?
          Why do you offend our athletes. It’s time to understand that now a professional athlete is the SAME profession, as a turner and miner. They EARN MONEY, putting their health on it.
          1. +7
            21 August 2017 11: 38
            They earn inadequate money, bringing much less benefit than a miner, doctor or plumber. For that matter, then most professions are the systematic destruction of their health day by day.
        2. +3
          21 August 2017 11: 27
          Our athletes turned out to be morally weak. They didn’t have the courage to accept refusal to speak and preserve the honor of the country. But they preferred to give up everything that reminds them of their belonging to the Russian Federation during the competition.
    2. +8
      21 August 2017 07: 21
      Such a country. Power in chocolate for any failure. Including sports.
      1. +2
        21 August 2017 07: 37
        "Power" is always and everywhere in chocolate. People do not change.
        1. 0
          21 August 2017 07: 43
          Ours remain in their places after any failures.
          1. 0
            21 August 2017 08: 27
            Cronyism is a universal trait.
        2. +1
          21 August 2017 11: 31
          People do not change, but they are sometimes changed. 1937 year.
        3. 0
          21 August 2017 11: 37
          There were a couple of disinterested people who tried to change people. Even they did not succeed. Mankind is doomed to nuclear war and self-destruction.
          1. 0
            21 August 2017 19: 44
            Quote: cast iron
            Mankind is doomed to nuclear war and self-destruction.

            So maybe a tear? Why pull it?
            1. 0
              22 August 2017 23: 05
              Do you have a black case? )))
    3. +8
      21 August 2017 11: 40
      And you know, I personally really hope that they will spit on us in 2018 and cancel the championship. A great blow to our bureaucrats will be. Very cool! And I don’t feel sorry for the millionaire footballers. They earn more in a year of shameful games than a surgeon in all their lives saving people.
  5. +17
    21 August 2017 06: 51
    I have one question. Why do we need such a commercial sport, according to the rules of others? Why does the state invest so much money in this nonsense, like "sports development"? What does it give? Health does not add, rather, the number of cripples multiplies. There is no economic return either. We are well aware that all these teams do not live on the money of viewers or sponsors from advertising, but on the funds of the largest monopolies. As they walked across the field, they will and will not give a damn about the full or empty stands in the stadium.
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 09: 33
      For the Roman Empire, the Colosseum and gladiatorial battles were no less important than roads and legions. Big sport, especially its playing forms, occupy the same niche in society. However, it is also true that the gladiators of Rome did not save the barbarians.
    2. +3
      21 August 2017 11: 35
      Sport is a show for sheep - 95% of the electorate, which is given completely to EdRosam every 4-5 years with special pleasure. The electorate likes DO NOT THINK. Read Dunno on the Moon - there was such an Island of Fools, where fools had fun every day and did not think about anything. Everything is written there about modern Russia.
  6. +1
    21 August 2017 06: 52
    It seems that only Russia behaves decently and humanly ...
    1. +8
      21 August 2017 07: 22
      Our propaganda may not create such a feeling
      1. +2
        21 August 2017 11: 34
        Western propaganda generally cultivates pederasty
        1. +1
          21 August 2017 12: 35
          Well, someone that hurts .... And you read the Western periodicals. In what languages.
      2. 0
        21 August 2017 19: 48
        Quote: Ken71
        Our propaganda may not create such a feeling

        Your propaganda? Is that star-striped?
    2. 0
      21 August 2017 09: 41
      Quote: Hoc vince
      It seems that only Russia behaves decently and humanly ...

      If something swims like a duck and quacks like a duck - this is a duck.
  7. +19
    21 August 2017 06: 55
    I had a double feeling from this circus: they spat in us, and spat from the heart. And the very first impulse I personally had was this: to send to Benin's mother all the competitions organized according to similar rules. And it is right. We must remember the boycotts by the American delegation of the Olympics-80 and the return “hello” to Los Angeles-84, as well as all other events of a similar scale. This is a state position from which it is impossible to retreat.
    But the second feeling: God is the judge of those athletes who took part in the games of near-sport dealers. And let them not be surprised then, if suddenly the official team for the next championship will be formed without them.
    1. +18
      21 August 2017 07: 25
      Quote: inkass_98
      I had a double feeling from this circus: they spat in us, and spat from the heart.

      PITCHED? Yes, we SHARKED at the very top. They demanded that Isenbaeva be removed, we removed ... Well, she’s so “uncomfortable” ... Now they demand to RECOGNIZE McLaren’s report, although it is already clear that he is in many respects FAITHFUL, but they demand HIS FULL RECOGNITION and PAY FOR EVERYTHING . That is, PAY and REPENT.
      And I expect with fear that our "bureaucrats" AGREE. It will be the perfect end.
    2. +1
      21 August 2017 11: 33
      We have no other athletes and never will. So athletes are not going anywhere. In the capitalist world, everyone thinks of himself and makes money as best he can. So do not you judge them.
  8. +15
    21 August 2017 07: 22
    Mutko has long deserved not only resignation, but also all-Russian contempt. Such a “miracle” at the head of Russian sports is only at hand to ill-wishers. So who are we working for?
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 09: 48
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Mutko has long deserved not only resignation

      Our surnames once went from the nicknames of our ancestors. Our wise ancestors were. At least with Mutny they were not mistaken ...
    2. +2
      21 August 2017 11: 02
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Mutko has long deserved not only resignation, but also all-Russian contempt. Such a “miracle” at the head of Russian sports is only at hand to ill-wishers. So who are we working for?

      Mutko on Putin
    3. +4
      21 August 2017 17: 12
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Such a “miracle” at the head of Russian sports is only at hand to ill-wishers. So who are we working for?

      Yes for himself, beloved, he works. At one time, as the president of “Zenith”, the uncle annealed, in the literal sense. It was the case, in the “silver”, 2003, we lost our SRES, 1: 7. Duc, Mutko was ordered ... to burn a videotape with the recording of the match. Chess, shaman! Well, in certain circles, to this day, it is generally accepted that from that moment "everything went." laughing And it’s not really recalled that the first Russian championship of “Zenith” happened already under Fursenko (by the way, now he has returned to the club). But Mutko ... since then has been strongly associated with the smell of burnt plastic. Yes
    4. +2
      21 August 2017 21: 02
      You know very well that this figure taught the main body of the country to ski. So no one will remove him from the post of minister.
  9. +7
    21 August 2017 07: 33
    Steamed already, leave the athletes alone. Their sports age is very short, each performance counts, and for each paid by their own health. Would be ashamed to mutter from the sofas. Yes, only shame, as I see it, is simply unknown to some ...
    They did what they could. Because our sports bureaucrats cannot do anything at all.
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 09: 50
      Quote: Flinky
      Because our sports bureaucrats cannot do anything at all.

      How can they not? Look how they have been putting Russia in a siu pose for years.
    2. +6
      21 August 2017 11: 31
      Leave the players alone - they play or they can. Leave the bureaucrats alone - they manage as they can. Leave the oligarchs alone - robbed as they can. Leave everyone alone and enjoy life and work for the "master."
      1. 0
        21 August 2017 12: 46
        For the first time I hear our players playing under a neutral flag.
        A typical womanish trait is to bring everything together.
        1. +2
          21 August 2017 13: 20
          In my opinion, for the first time you hear about our current football. This is about that football which somehow for very big grandmas, stolen from the population since 1991.
          1. 0
            21 August 2017 14: 10
            I’m not interested in football at all - so, a mimic crocodile.
            Continue, your opinion is very important to me.
  10. +6
    21 August 2017 09: 04
    Friend is known in trouble. You can be principled and shoot yourself in the foot, especially with a pan on your head, or you can support athletes, at least mentally. Now the main thing is to save athletes and in their person sports of the highest achievements. And then morning will come and there will be a day. The rest is all emotions.
    1. +7
      21 August 2017 11: 30
      And what do we care about the sport of the highest achievements? He does not bring dividends to ordinary people. Earn units and related structures. Moreover, there are entire classes of athletes who even earn contrary to. For example, our football players! They get paid a lot of money for a level 10 league game in England (if any).
      However, in a country of victorious wild capitalism and nascent feudalism with elements of a caste society, this is normal. What the rams wanted in 1991 was what they got. No pity.
  11. +4
    21 August 2017 09: 20
    What can you do live in the commercial era, in the age of commercialization of sports. Athletes even sell their conscience: spit on their homeland, personal exaltation is more important. The defective upbringing of this generation is to blame. The same is true in the world of art. Recall Eurovision. In fact, sport has become a show business. Where business is, there is money. Money and patriotism are opposite concepts.
    1. +1
      21 August 2017 11: 27
      Why is it the opposite? Where there is money - there is patriotism)))) And how patriotism was laid on both sides during the 1st world imperialist war)))))) People in millions are like rams to slaughter in a meat grinder at their own request for the glory of capital! ))))) Anyway, expensive !!!
      The funny thing is that rams like this situation - they throw a bone in the form of an iPhone, a laptop, available porn and a choice from Chinese clothes. They are happy))))
      1. 0
        21 August 2017 13: 22
        Quote: cast iron
        The funny thing is that rams like this situation - they throw a bone in the form of an iPhone, a laptop, available porn and a choice from Chinese clothes. They are happy))))


        And you, do not use these "bones" ?!
        1. 0
          22 August 2017 23: 07
          Where to go? I don’t live in a cave.
  12. +6
    21 August 2017 09: 30
    Looking at the photos of the winners at the beginning of the article, you understand that not only the representatives of Russia, but also Poland, Ukraine, and even ANA were not on the podium. Toyota Wins! Well, then why break the spears?
  13. +4
    21 August 2017 09: 43
    The article has the right word - dishonor!
    1. 0
      21 August 2017 11: 25
      For whom you vote, he rules the ball.
  14. +7
    21 August 2017 09: 45
    Still, the minuses were canceled in vain. Pluses would be more significant. From me to you, Roman, a triple plus for the fact that this topic was raised, and for how emotionally everything was written.
    For "wise men" who say why this topic is in. This is patriotism. We really spat, and we, as always, have worn off in recent years!
  15. +5
    21 August 2017 09: 54
    Evil is man-made, evil will always be evil, for it is not for nothing that they say that our life is a struggle!
    Anger and curses will not lead to good if the circumstance happened - be fair.
    The wisdom of our life must be understood - since it is unbearable - we must retreat.
    The retreat is not cowardice, this is also a move, this is a time for reflection, this is the way forward!
  16. +5
    21 August 2017 10: 01
    Quote: 210ox
    In this situation, athletes are forced to choose either sports or unemployment. They do not know anything else. And do not blame them for unpatriotism. Because they are not the root cause, but the sports business and officials.

    ------------------------------
    In general, an athlete is a thoroughbred animal, displayed for the competition and he should not have any moral position. He should take care only that his ligaments, muscles, tendons can compete. And what label, flag or beeper on his carcass is not important. Only sport, only loot. By the way, I was struck by one lady who sold an SUV donated by the country for her victory. I sold the award to solve the housing problem, you see.

    Here is a moral position.
    1. 0
      21 August 2017 11: 08
      As follows from your words, then you are not a thoroughbred animal, which you can’t even sell an SUV, not given to you by the country?
    2. +3
      21 August 2017 11: 24
      Are you surprised that you were not presented with an SUV? Or maybe you are surprised that a Russian athlete knows how to calculate expenses and income and wisely changed a money vacuum cleaner (premium car) for real estate? Have you been tested for bile by a doctor?
  17. +14
    21 August 2017 10: 16
    It is surprising how much you can write on a topic, the essence of which is two paragraphs:
    1. We were not allowed
    2. Separate irresponsible elements, instead of sitting at home and sulking the whole world, did not appear under their own flag.
    Yes, “Us Rat!”, Because OUR athletes, speaking under the flag of a strange country, only emphasize the situation of people who continue to fight despite sanctions. It is much worse when they appear under the flag of another, accept someone else's citizenship and often water the remaining slop. And so everything, and most importantly, We see Who and How is speaking!
    And stop whining "Wow, what a bad WADA, how the UN turned into a puppet of the USA, what a bad State Department - put your government in Ukraine!" Maybe you need to do it all yourself !? Objectively, we are weak ... First of all, because of the very ones that are not there, but we must hold on. And perform !!! Instead of sitting in a locked room and repeating the mantra "We are the best in everything" .... And lose. Because only competition (and in all areas) shows the true state of affairs
    1. 0
      21 August 2017 12: 37
      It is a pity that I can put only one plus.
    2. 0
      23 August 2017 17: 16
      but what about the skater from Korea then? - the hero is a traitor to his country? - but here he is a hero ... duplicity in the country gives rise to duplicity in everything, leave the sports out, let them run, they don’t know otherwise, look for the source of smells and process in another place, the fish will tell ...
  18. +5
    21 August 2017 10: 17
    I’m evaluating the situation with ours, no, with “our athletes” at the World Cup, in Crimea. This is as if, after statements about the voluntary choice of Crimeans, we would hold a new referendum under the leadership and control of the OSCE, PACE, of course, in the end, "taking the 9th team place."
    I agree with the author, "something went wrong." In sports, “Crimea is surrendered” and the West decides what to do next.
  19. +4
    21 August 2017 10: 21
    Muddy Everything .... With all the tricks of the West against Russia, I think that the collective Mutko also lies with the blame. Not everything seems pure with doping with us. You can blame the Americans, they say addicted to doping. And if you knew why you hadn’t talked before and didn’t require checks from WADA? Keep quiet ... But they beat not those who stole, but who got caught! And they thought it would blow, we don’t touch them. And how the propaganda machine - TV, journalists, got to its full potential. And it was too late. I get the impression that our propaganda works for the people of Russia and not for those against whom it is directed. This and endless shows about Ukraine, Poland and others. Fattened Ukrainians and Poles are tired of worse than the bitter radish. What is the efficiency of these shows?
    As for the athletes. This is not their fault. People train, spend money preparing for performances. And then stop, restricted to travel abroad under the flag of the country. And what should they do?
  20. +4
    21 August 2017 10: 31
    If I got a gold medal. I would definitely be photographed against the background of the ANA flag. For the story. In my opinion this is cool. Proof that the Russians are afraid. And no matter how they try to sue them, they still win.
    And the fact that the defeated will consider that they did not lose to the Russians, it is self-deception that does not paint them at all.
  21. +2
    21 August 2017 10: 49
    Traitors and citizens of "low social responsibility."
    Why they were shown on TV, I still do not understand.
    I hope they don’t get any budget funds.
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 12: 28
      10.49. Dmitry! Here, under the flag of which country they appeared, let this country finance them!
  22. +4
    21 August 2017 11: 04
    It's disgusting, to be honest. And such as turbidly, so drive a filthy broom from the government. Although it’s muddy. the entire government is almost at full strength.
  23. +6
    21 August 2017 11: 11
    All questions are rightly posed by Roman. I support him. I have the honor.
  24. +4
    21 August 2017 11: 12
    For such athletes, the words Motherland and patriotism have long been meaningless. Everything in the world is on sale, and they are no exception. It is interesting how they will tell their children that they once betrayed their Country for the sake of their ambitions. For it is not to be called otherwise. When an athlete refuses everything that is connected with Russia (symbolism, anthem, etc.), moreover, consciously, and then happily returns to this country, it cannot be called a betrayal.
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 17: 08
      Here the athlete runs, jumps, trains. Defend the honor of the country is preparing.
      And at one fine moment, a conditional one comes up to him and says: “Listen, they rolled a barrel on you, well, they forbid you to speak. I’m supposed to defend you from office, but I’m too lazy, and I don’t know how.” May Hart "is the most that I can do. In short, stay at home because it’s unprincipled to appear under a neutral flag. I don’t have money? Well, I don’t know, I have a salary every month and it doesn’t depend on your results. I’m your financial question don’t hesitate at all. Well, take it, steal it, go into business. In short, I’ll go, there are a lot of cases, I have to discuss with your European bureaucrats who have removed you, come on!
  25. +1
    21 August 2017 11: 20
    After the author of the article called Mutko "master" it became extremely clear that everything was densely mixed in the head with a little bit of everything. The author is 5 years old and he does not realize that he lives in the world of MONEY. Athletes earn loot - no one in capitalism will feed them with a spoon. And their age is very short. For the capitalists, a good performance of athletes in various shows of "modernity" is a guarantee of distraction of the people from the class struggle. The rise of the under-educated "personalities" of capitalist bourgeois patriotism in the style of hat-making and the complete disconnection of the brain. Professional sport is an element of a propaganda brainwashing machine. The population must believe that they live in a COMMON HOME with the capitalists and must be ready to defend the capitalists (oh, excuse me, the "common homeland") at the first call of Kiselev or someone else.
    What can I say? Vote further for EdRosov and Vova Putin. They will not fail))))
    1. +4
      21 August 2017 12: 30
      Quote: cast iron
      The population must believe that they live in a COMMON HOME with the capitalists and must be ready to defend the capitalists (oh, excuse me, the "common homeland") at the first call of Kiselev or someone else.
      What can I say? Vote further for EdRosov and Vova Putin. They will not fail))))

      And our population is so stupid that in any case it rises and defends our Motherland. Whoever she is with. If only the leadership did not betray.
      1. +2
        21 August 2017 13: 22
        No, not in any. In 1917, an uneducated herd was brought to the handle. What did he want to fight for the rich ghouls.
        1. +1
          21 August 2017 17: 09
          The king was weak, but in 41 - 45 they showed to the whole world what it is when the king is
  26. +1
    21 August 2017 12: 32
    Quote: NordUral
    As follows from your words, then you are not a thoroughbred animal, which you can’t even sell an SUV, not given to you by the country?

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    It amazes me how you can sell an award.
    1. +1
      21 August 2017 19: 20
      Altona Today, 12:32
      It amazes me how you can sell an award.

      The car is not a reward, but a bonus.
      You, too, when you receive an award at work, do not hang it on a wall in a frame under glass.
      And there are many cases when athletes sold their medals to give money to charity. And no one condemns them for this.
  27. +1
    21 August 2017 12: 36
    Quote: cast iron
    Are you surprised that you were not presented with an SUV? Or maybe you are surprised that a Russian athlete knows how to calculate expenses and income and wisely changed a money vacuum cleaner (premium car) for real estate? Have you been tested for bile by a doctor?

    ------------------------------------
    Well, apparently nothing surprises you. You welcome the "life wisdom" of the athlete (s). Therefore, do not be surprised when the powerlifting champion is killed by the under-athlete of the mixfight while lying down. These are links of one chain. The lack of sports ethics always leads to such results when a trained animal needs to kill a person with delivered blows in order to express himself. .
    1. +4
      21 August 2017 13: 25
      It amazes me how an adult man (whether he is an athlete or not) walks in deliberately hot places intended for degenerates, drug addicts and prostitutes.

      It will not surprise me at all that the national leader who killed the Russian powerlifter will be put on probation for a couple of years. Our nationalities are loved and respected. Vote for EdRo and the capitalists further - the only way we win)))
  28. +3
    21 August 2017 13: 22
    every time you mix up the anthem, sing "Get up a huge country ..." And, in general, it would be nice to make this song a hymn
  29. +3
    21 August 2017 13: 23
    Quote: zak167
    For such athletes, the words Motherland and patriotism have long been meaningless. Everything in the world is on sale, and they are no exception. It is interesting how they will tell their children that they once betrayed their Country for the sake of their ambitions. For it is not to be called otherwise. When an athlete refuses everything that is connected with Russia (symbolism, anthem, etc.), moreover, consciously, and then happily returns to this country, it cannot be called a betrayal.

    Strongly disagree.
    Our athletes did not betray their country by going to competitions. Russia did not declare a boycott.
    They did not say - "they say we do not care, we need to earn money."
    Yes, "foreign officials from the sport" forbade them to show the state symbols of Russia.
    But everyone, including these "international sports functionaries", was well aware of who these athletes represent.
    IAAF mistakenly added a team of neutral athletes to the World Cup medal table and deleted it
    Russian athletes at the World Championships in London were the only athletes to compete under the neutral flag, since the IAAF has not yet reinstated membership in the All-Russian Athletics Federation. Of the 19 Russian athletes participating in the tournament, six athletes won medals (one gold and five silver medals), which allowed the team of Authorized Neutral Athletes (ANA) to be on the ninth line of the medal standings.
    http://tass.ru/sport/4486049

    The DRG, leaving behind enemy lines on a mission, leaves documents, awards and often a military uniform on its territory. But, as a rule, the “opponent” understands - the fighters of which country oppose him.
    And in this particular case, the faces of our WINNERS best demonstrate OUR COAT OF ARMS, ANTHEM and FLAG.

    In the photo: Maria Lasickies.
  30. +2
    21 August 2017 13: 37
    I agree with everything with the Author. Until I remember that
    In a historical context it is very reminiscent of action
    25 years ago. There were also people who believed that they were the Soviet people. And stood under the flag of the ROA. To all the SOVIET PEOPLE! Well, not everyone. Only caught on ... February 1992 in the RSFSR (?). Here the rules of law went, their sons of lawyers came up with for their own success in life. And these, the neutrals, will cheat some money, buy cool cars and will be like examples shown to us by the MIs, to make life with anyone. And we will continue to stop inadvertently heart, passing GIB2Deshnikov. Suddenly Mara got them, and they want to take their soul away ...
  31. +2
    21 August 2017 13: 40
    The ANA team took the honorable 9th place. What, lope of pieces of silver was cut down, huh?
    Traitors to the motherland.
    The court must recover from them the costs of training, which came from the budget.
    1. +4
      21 August 2017 19: 02
      Quote: Uma Palata
      The ANA team took the honorable 9th place. What, lope of pieces of silver was cut down, huh?
      Traitors to the motherland.
      The court must recover from them the costs of training, which came from the budget.

      The last time Russia performed under its flag at the 2015 World Cup.
      62 athletes won 4 medals and took 9th place in the team event.
      Our PARTIZANS, and did not appear for 19 people, won 6 medals and also 9th place.
      Their country sent to the competition, no one drove arbitrarily.
  32. +7
    21 August 2017 14: 47
    I would like to express my opinion about what is practically not reflected in this wonderful article. Namely: the situation in the sport of high achievements resembles the situation with the foreign policy of Russia, which is given great influence. But there is also mass physical culture of the Russian people. Which of course is given attention, but in my opinion is insufficient. As well as the Economy. With a flourishing, self-sufficient economy, it would be easier to respond to external challenges, and with a mass developed physical culture, the People would have more material in the sport of high achievements. I have not watched football for a long time, since Jaromir Jagr began to play for Omsk Vanguard. I do not understand this. I don’t understand when a foreign coach is paid more than the sports budget of any city. I don’t understand Beer advertising in commercial breaks, how can this be allowed? Physical Culture (culture is a system of internal restrictions) implies a culture of nutrition, abstinence from alcohol. Does any of the Ministries bother with this? Does anyone know that Baltika beer is an American company? that this beer is made from their concentrates !! and the main profit goes there! Prohibit imported beer concentrates in response to McLaren !!! Here is the answer
  33. 0
    21 August 2017 15: 10
    And this article is in the "Analytics" section ??? What kind of analysis is this, analysis of what ???? What kind of question: "Dear readers, do you think it's time to answer?" And what does the author himself think? Not too obvious things to ask? Or is it just rhetoric exercises?
    1. 0
      23 August 2017 17: 23
      such analytics now went and analyzers with small analyzes ...
  34. +4
    21 August 2017 15: 33
    Citizens of the Russian Federation are not related to professional sports. If the state invests taxpayer money in the medal business, then there are specific officials who are directly responsible for the result, and their superiors. If a professional athlete received state funding, then he has obligations. If not received, then he has no obligations and is not obliged to obey officials from the sport. It is possible to condemn morally, to punish with contempt (deservedly), but this requires foundations and moral law.
    "Majors", worried about the problems of "legal proceedings" in the Russian Federation, living abroad, or staging races on the streets of Moscow (not New York), force the taxpayer to dry out daily. So what?
  35. +3
    21 August 2017 16: 20
    It was necessary to speak. And for athletes too. In the USSR, of course, they wouldn’t participate and would simply FORBID athletes to perform. And you need to constantly be in sight. And constantly remind yourself.
    You can’t get rid of us with spits.
  36. +2
    21 August 2017 16: 22
    Quote: cast iron
    It amazes me how an adult man (whether he is an athlete or not) walks in deliberately hot places intended for degenerates, drug addicts and prostitutes.

    It will not surprise me at all that the national leader who killed the Russian powerlifter will be put on probation for a couple of years. Our nationalities are loved and respected. Vote for EdRo and the capitalists further - the only way we win)))

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    What does EdRo and the nationals? It was about sports ethics. And you, with your exuberant post, have proved my thesis that an athlete is now like an animal, if he walks through hot places. One came just to relax and sit, by the way the former athlete, the second, as you determined the national leader, came to prove his superiority, having achieved nothing in the official ring. And since the national man owned shock equipment, he killed the opponent in a lying position. I say no sporting ethics, some animal instincts. Well, what will they give him is the matter of our court. So EdRo here you dragged to the spot. It will be later. And before that, we see stupid and bespontovoe behavior.
    1. +1
      22 August 2017 23: 21
      Going to a local nightclub (night klopovnik) of a Russian peasant who is 32 years old is generally quite strange. By this age, most men do not go to nightclubs - they already have other interests. There is nothing to talk about the crowds of national minorities in clubs - everything has been clear with them for a long time. Aggressive animals on the walk.
      This whole situation with article 282, which applies exclusively to Russians, is a direct consequence of the bourgeois-capitalist system in the country. This is all over the world where "democrats", "capitalists" and "bourgeois" rule the ball. While you vote for EdRo, crowds of animals speaking a foreign language will be beaten up by crowds of Russians and nothing will happen to them.
  37. +2
    21 August 2017 16: 24
    Someone called Mr. Mutko a "fat cat" ...
    Cats ... in general .... Interested in ....
    Only by myself ...
    What are we waiting for?
    Mutko busy learning English .... using an escort ....
    Seductive teachers ...
    What ... athletics ... flags ...
  38. +3
    21 August 2017 16: 26
    Quote: cast iron
    What can I say? Vote further for EdRosov and Vova Putin. They will not fail))))

    ---------------------------
    Why repeat this slogan in every comment is not clear?
    1. +1
      22 August 2017 23: 23
      To ensure that people think a little about being. I am leading the class struggle on these internet of yours absolutely enthusiastic.
  39. +2
    21 August 2017 16: 27
    How to answer that ??? If Mutko collective farm. Which minister is such a sport.
  40. +3
    21 August 2017 17: 50
    I will not condemn or praise the athletes, but I will write in such a way that they were prevented from performing under the flag of the USSR and with the anthem of the USSR, because the USSR no longer exists, which means they did not have enough intelligence. And if they had presented claims to the athletes, they would have stated that a state with such symbols does not exist. I do not know how I would react to this international rabble, but they did not forbid performing under the symbols of the USSR, and this would be a reminder of Russia. So athletes have no conscience, pride and courage!
    1. +1
      22 August 2017 23: 24
      What are you doing? We are 25 years old in schools and universities hammered that the USSR is worse than Nazi Germany. The results are obvious.
    2. 0
      23 August 2017 17: 27
      if they had done so (about the flag and symbols of the USSR) they would have been officially recognized as traitors at the very top - and as athletes they would have ceased to exist ...- reminders of the USSR above are more afraid of spitting
  41. +5
    21 August 2017 18: 21
    Guys, don’t swear here. Spit on these spiritsmen. I stopped looking at these canine footballers, and other reckless athletes, and began to feel much better. Remember, in “Three in a boat, not counting a dog” there is such an episode .. “I studied German at the university, but since then I have forgotten everything, and I feel much better.” Only this book needs to be read, not that moronic movie watch what ours took off.
    Well, I'm a little distracted. Now is the time that most of our athletes, deputies, ministers and other multi-earning, or rather multi-earning, do not care deeply about the prestige of the country. So why should we look at all this comedy and worry? I just spat, and not I look, I am not interested, and I don’t worry. But I regularly do morning exercises, and to the best of my ability I go in for sports. AND FEELING MUCH BETTER
    Ugh, on them.
    1. +3
      21 August 2017 20: 43
      Well, yes, just don’t confuse the unfinished football players and athletes, that girl in the photo, Maria Lasitskene won 26 world competitions in a row, and what? order everything to spit for the approval of a couple of dozens of those who forget it in a month? so get the punishment of sports officials who have committed such a doping scandal
  42. +2
    21 August 2017 18: 26
    We have never suffered such cynical humiliation before. It was strange to see the joyful faces of our ghoul officials from sports when they told us in a few interviews how cool everything was, why it wasn’t covered, how did they persuade and threaten the athletes not to sue? It is incomprehensible stubborn, contrary to common sense, protection and a reverent attitude to their well-being of ministers-loafers, mediocrity, bordering on direct betrayal and sabotage (not only from sports). Where influence and work with the decisive voice of a great sports power in the Olympic Committee, why anyone who decides who is allowed and who is not without us? Why is this WADA still comfortable and still not standing on the street and in transitions with outstretched hands? Because these bureaucrats from sports found a feeding trough (by the way, the tax-free law canceled the trade in cigarettes and water sportsmen?). which are panicky afraid to lose and stay out of work, because they can do nothing more and are good for nothing, except to make smart faces on meetings and knock down dumb. And athletes are not athletes, they are people with reduced social responsibility, as our owner put it, they are people without honor and conscience, not worth mentioning, they are from the same breed as that couple with whom it started, about 30 pieces of silver were written 2000 years ago. It’s another thing why the bureaucrats who pushed through stupidity or malice destructive reforms that destroyed entire industries for the sake of overseas masters that impede the development of the country, which deprive of hope for a revival, allowed this state of affairs in sports, and most importantly did not create and did not bankrupt all those involved in this vile story, throwing all the courts in millions of lawsuits, do not build roads or cut down forests in Siberia or Kolyma, or at least do not teach at a rural school in Pupyrlovka and continue to eat sweetly and sleep softly in their apartments and mansions, suck from the feeder at the expense of the people.
  43. +5
    21 August 2017 18: 33
    I agree with the author entirely and completely, and I would also like to make my proposal: next year we will host the World Cup, so why not ban the impudent people to fly under their own flag?
  44. 0
    21 August 2017 18: 58
    These "neutrals" were allowed because use their "medicine", and not because of their consent to put on muzzles and not sing the anthem of Russia.
  45. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 03
    Some of our officials have beguiled the country. One must live with such surnames .... No, they didn’t guess. In Great Britain. And do not stop betraying the interests of the people by caring for these people. From this commercialized "sport" just stinks. This is no longer a sport, but some kind of performances by resellers. And for many, it has become just a feeding trough. They don’t give a damn about the audience. There is no pride. If only they took pseudonyms for themselves, like wrestlers in a circus from the time of Poddubny.
  46. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 04
    Quote: Alex Ros
    I agree with the author entirely and completely, and I would also like to make my proposal: next year we will host the World Cup, so why not ban the impudent people to fly under their own flag?

    Something tells me that it won’t reach the World Cup. And if you reach, then the British would have to get on the field, and not by prohibitions. But, alas, there is no one, because commerce here has destroyed everything in our country. But one must think that "there will be a holiday on our street."
  47. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 33
    Seriously said about patriotism. Only all this is determined by education.
    Now tell me, is conscience for sale? They give money for the ego?
    If you say no, then how do you explain the presence of a “CONSCIENCE” bank card ???
    Is that the "Trivia"? Doesn’t it all start with so little? Is this not an opportunity to estimate the cost? Those who believed "My hut from the edge" fought in the ROA ...
  48. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 43
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Fighting without a flag is no longer a battle. If the ship lowered the flag, then it surrendered. Who needs these “neutrals”, in addition to participants and specialists? Yes, no one. - from article

    I agree with the author. Performance of athletes “without a flag” and state attributes is a betrayal.
    There is no permission to represent the state - you need to ignore these competitions, no matter how important they are, even though the Olympic Games.
    No need to put in the forefront of "interests" of athletes, "the years spent in preparing for these competitions." International sport is politics, and above all politics, where a particular state demonstrates its flag and its capabilities, its power, if you like. And here the interests of one or several individuals must cede, be suppressed by the more important interests of the country where they live.

    good
  49. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 44
    vladimirZ Today, 08:03
    There is no permission to represent the state - you need to ignore these competitions, no matter how important they are, even though the Olympic Games.

    The state cannot afford to stand in the pose of an offended pimple teenager - "Girls do not like me - I will masturbate in the corner."
    Isolation, let alone self-isolation, is not brought to good.
    Peter I "chopped the Window into Europe" is not from a good life - "The door was boarded up."
    1. +1
      21 August 2017 20: 38
      namely, they want isolation. If anything, the Iron Curtain was invented by the West, not the USSR, which binary students believe now
  50. +2
    21 August 2017 19: 46
    Purgamet, athletes gave half their lives to compete ... You’re writing all kinds of blizzards to put money in your pocket, you are making money on this dirty political blockade ... That's where the shame is !!!!
  51. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 51
    What I want to say is that traitors and scoundrels are always looking for an excuse! And...and that says it all.
  52. +2
    21 August 2017 19: 53
    Yes, the gentlemen always want to eat more black caviar. Well, as for athletes, this is only part of the servants of the modern “elite”. Well, unfortunately, we have more than enough people like Mutko in our government.
  53. +1
    21 August 2017 19: 54
    What does this have to do with athletes? They prepared for a long time, and now, because of political problems, they quit the sport?
  54. +2
    21 August 2017 19: 55
    In moral terms, Russia was greatly humiliated, a sad fact, but a fact. Medvedev (this is his task) did his best to justify such “athletes” who, one way or another, abandoned the Russian flag. Humiliation will not bring friends to Russia, but will only cause even greater hostility towards “such a country.”
  55. 0
    21 August 2017 20: 09
    What do you want? Market - everything is for sale!
  56. +1
    21 August 2017 20: 10
    If I were the president of our great country, I would not allow neutral athletes into hostile territory, and would give our athletes the opportunity to perform on their own platform, and give the opportunity to win or not win prize money, much larger in amount than the prize money at the London Olympics. It would be fair, honest and proud. And even invite athletes from other countries. And humiliate the British in return.
    1. +1
      21 August 2017 20: 37
      and then everyone would shout “what the hell, they give these athletes such money!”
  57. +1
    21 August 2017 20: 13
    Yes x. root with them, I am interested in the question of why with Mutko, who dragged the traitor into the doping laboratory to work knowing about his activities and criminal record from the very beginning, nothing in principle happened, like water off a duck’s back.
  58. +2
    21 August 2017 20: 26
    It is necessary to abolish the fabulous fees for athletes - then only real athletes will remain there. And reward with money only for achievements.
  59. +4
    21 August 2017 20: 29
    How much I “like” the author’s position. How was it with the SS classics? - Whoever is not with us is against us? So it seems?
    I don’t know where and who the author works for, but his chair is clearly on fire just from the thought that the athletes dared to compete under a neutral flag. And most of the commentators do too.
    My profession is a lawyer, so I will justify:
    1. Yes, indeed, most athletes cheat during training. And not like you and me, average idiots - three times a week for two hours. They really work: grueling training twice a day, five to six times a week. This is work. And it doesn’t make you any healthier. No professional athlete can quit training, since the body has become accustomed to stress over many years and its absence can lead to death. Due to excessive stress, the body becomes decrepit. A professional athlete is similar to a disabled person: everything rests solely on muscles. As soon as the load stops, all diseases come out.
    2. The state pays money for medals, and athletes are fully supported by the state only when they are preparing for world championships and Olympics. The rest of the time they are self-sufficient.
    3. A question for you, gentlemen who judge. Let's say you work, well, for example, as a leading specialist in nose picking, with a good salary. At the same time, you got a job in your specialty, you have a diploma in nose picking. You worked for approximately 10-12 years. But then the day comes when you are fired from your job and they say that there are no more such specialists and such a specialty in our country. Question: will you go to work as a loader or a janitor? Or will you try your luck in a neighboring country? This specialty is highly valued there. By the way, you are not trained in other specialties.
    4. Words about patriotism and lack of silver sound beautiful and correct, only from the lips of a person who uses an iotaphone, rides a viburnum, and taps the keys of an Elbrus. And so, IMHO, the empty chatter of the average hamster who dreams of a new Anglo-Saxon iPhone, a German car and wants to drink American whiskey.
    Draw your own conclusions.
    1. +2
      22 August 2017 10: 25
      You are an absolute demagogue, which is typical for a lawyer. Let's start with the fact that success in high-achievement sports is the lot of a few. And the state’s investment in such athletes at the stage of their formation is much greater than in the rest of the mass of less successful athletes. As for the loads, what prevents you from continuing to receive them, regardless of participation or non-participation in competitions, if this is a necessity? Or should a chronically ill person only take medications if they have a doctor's appointment?
      If my specialty is not needed in the country, and I can’t do anything else, I will leave the country and pick my nose under a false flag. But it will be fair.
      Words about the use of foreign goods - kindergarten. The fact is that any complex technology today is a product of globalization, and a foreign car may well have Russian steel, and an iPhone may have Russian protective glass. just like the Yotafon has Chinese parts and assembly. So this is empty chatter, but with mentoring intonations.
      1. 0
        24 August 2017 17: 55
        Quote: Sergey Kiryushin
        You are an absolute demagogue, which is typical for a lawyer.

        Thanks for the compliment.

        Quote: Sergey Kiryushin
        Let's start with the fact that success in high-achievement sports is the lot of a few. And the state’s investment in such athletes at the stage of their formation is much greater than in the rest of the mass of less successful athletes. As for the loads, what prevents you from continuing to receive them, regardless of participation or non-participation in competitions, if this is a necessity? Or should a chronically ill person only take medications if they have a doctor's appointment?

        Why rape your body for free?

        Quote: Sergey Kiryushin
        If my specialty is not needed in the country, and I can’t do anything else, I will leave the country and pick my nose under a false flag. But it will be fair.

        The athletes also honestly performed not under the Russian flag. Don't you find it?

        Quote: Sergey Kiryushin
        Words about the use of foreign goods - kindergarten. The fact is that any complex technology today is a product of globalization, and a foreign car may well have Russian steel, and an iPhone may have Russian protective glass. just like the Yotafon has Chinese parts and assembly. So this is empty chatter, but with mentoring intonations.

        The main thing in your message is the phrase “...maybe...”. Everything else is the ranting of an armchair expert.
        You, my friend, confuse warm with soft and never try to understand the point of view of the opposite side. Are you also one of those who shouts “He who is not with us is against us”?
        Try to comprehend the following words, they are attributed to the 14th Dalai Lama: “Before you judge someone, take his shoes and walk his path, taste his tears, feel his pain. Straddle every stone he tripped over. And only after that tell him that you know how to live correctly.”
  60. +4
    21 August 2017 20: 29
    another chant of an offended person who is far from world sports.. Under what flag will they compete in the future? Under the Russian one, they will have time to judge everything that needs to be judged. And now let’s look from the outside: it turns out that a person must throw away all his sporting achievements, throw away his career, because that 2-3 years of missing competitions and you can already forget about your career for the sake of the ephemeral gratitude of a certain “blogger” who will forget their last name in a day? Thank you, No need
  61. +1
    21 August 2017 20: 50
    What is there to argue about... Every betrayal has its own justification. Karbyshev did not want to betray.
  62. +4
    21 August 2017 21: 21
    I strongly disagree with the article. Why should athletes endure and give up the chance of their lives to realize their dreams because the state apparatus, through its clumsy actions, did not protect their interests? Do you, officials, want them to perform under the flag of the Motherland? Give them this opportunity! You can not? You're screwed. Why should athletes suffer for you? Do not confuse the Motherland and the State. These are different things.
  63. +2
    21 August 2017 21: 35
    Then the question arises: why spend money and train athletes and then they will wave their hands?
  64. +2
    21 August 2017 21: 43
    Quote: Region 34
    It feels like people in our leadership are morally retarded! And being a doormat that people wipe their feet on is their normal state

    There is no and cannot be an alternative to Putin-Medvedev never!
    Besides, donkeys... oh, sorry, horses are not changed at the crossing. And we have been at this “crossing” for 30 years.
    So patriotic...
  65. +3
    21 August 2017 21: 50
    What benefits do professional athletes bring to the country? Incomprehensible prestige and that's it? For me, there is only one harm from them; the state has completely relied on amateur sports.
    And professional athletes, as a rule, are majors; the common man should not care about their problems.
    1. +2
      22 August 2017 14: 23
      Agree! It’s annoying when they say that athletes stand for the prestige of the state. Here are the benefits from doctors, from miners, from teachers, from factory workers. Athletes and officials only cause harm! They are not eating themselves. It is necessary to develop mass sports so that both children and the elderly can participate.
  66. +4
    21 August 2017 21: 51
    The article and the comments it generated are typical manipulation. They used to say that they were "weak". Once, everyone fell for it... Just think about it, throwing away the garbage from pseudo-patriotic patterns (like - whoever is not with us is against us), we will see the frightening emptiness that we are trying to discuss - whether certain people are right or wrong. Whether in sports or in power... All this is a waste of time and effort, because:
    The personality (of the same athlete, official... etc.), of course, is an important part in any business, but in our global times it is not even a warrior in the middle of the field... it is no longer worth ANYTHING! Until such a person is attracted to those who want to profit from him. AND THAT'S ALL!...As soon as a person is milked dry, he becomes, in terms of necessity and value, equal to empty space. And, mind you, everyone who wrote all sorts of sublime nonsense about betrayal or loyalty to the Motherland will instantly douse such a person (their former idol) with slop, simply because he has ceased to meet their aspirations and hopes... This is the truth of life.. .
    The world around us has changed a long time ago... A lot! 70 years already! But around us we all pretend that this does not apply to us... And, lo and behold!, when the long-sown seeds of stupidity (or evil calculation) begin to sprout today, we are greatly surprised and indignant! Like how can this be so.. This is not right! We were betrayed...! Ugh! I’m so disgusted by such a hypocritical approach to ourselves!
    Friends and foes! The Last War clearly showed that the path of individuals is a thing of the past! Only a team that is united by one Goal, motivated by common interests and “blowing to the same tune” will be able to break the backs of everyone around. And we had this until under Khrushchev they started to break everything. As a result, we all turned into spineless people in a country that, by its example, proved that it is possible to live differently. We even screwed up the country and didn’t really scratch ourselves... We just grumbled!!! But we have the impudence and courage to judge and decide who is to blame for this or that failure. We simply don’t see the horizon, buried in pettiness.
    We, raised by our “elites” into opportunists or those with a “home on the edge”, have become “humus”, which is proudly called the post-industrial world. Consumers whose opinions are no longer even of interest to those who have broken through to the top (no matter in what sector of our life). An example is Mutko and his gop company, for example. We all (we) see that everything is falling apart, but we strongly “believe” that everything will pass and heal on its own. For example... Taburetkin with a harem, Or Fursenki with the Livanovs... or Nadiulin with a non-resident bank in his own country... there is a lot of things... BUT we care about the flag, the anthem and other people's successes... Note, not our own, and strangers. Because there is no ONE left in our common country with you... Everything is someone’s property... and that... until the next redistribution...
    And, if we stop for a second and look around, we will see that the world is far from the one we were told about at school. Where our country is is POWER! We live in “something” where everything is divided, but not between us... That Country no longer exists! And the opportunists were the first to realize this... First of all, dividing the common country (the team - in a sports way) into small inheritances, So we live in them... and very closed... with petty views and the vision that the neighbor is better. .. Well, we see around us what can grow in such little worlds (the same athletes who compete for... no one...). and it’s too late to scold them, since time has passed.
    Now we need to build everything again, all together.
    I understand that it will be impossible to do this now, but when there are fewer of us (war is just around the corner), this will sober up those who remain.
    Let's be patient :)
  67. +3
    21 August 2017 21: 54
    The author has gone too far on the athletes, their fate is to perform, they are least to blame for the fact that Russia screwed up its membership in the federation
  68. +2
    21 August 2017 22: 10
    Quote: Titsen
    If neutral athletes are traitors, then businessmen and bureaucrats, then who?

    But this is a different class - the Bare, those for whom the current state system was created.
  69. 0
    21 August 2017 22: 34
    they do this because they are allowed to. but if they were severely punished, together with all those involved, maybe they would think about it
  70. 0
    21 August 2017 22: 57
    This is war, war on all fronts.
    Dear readers, do you think it is time to answer?

    Who will we answer? Like Mutko?)
  71. +3
    22 August 2017 01: 10
    I completely support the author’s opinion! The life of an athlete may be short, but you need to have pride in your flag. Someone once gave their life for this flag, and not the opportunity to participate in the start...
  72. +3
    22 August 2017 04: 16
    In modern big sport, everyone “says some kind of nasty thing,” but not everyone is punished, which is no longer surprising (we live in a world of double standards)! As for our athletes, they are definitely great, honor and praise, they fight in any situation, which cannot be said about the country for which they compete, which is obliged to stand for them, protect them, defend their interests without looking back to the West! In the meantime, our ministers are mechanics!
  73. +1
    22 August 2017 05: 21
    What's stopping the McDonald's BRAND from being banned in Russia?
    In Russia, according to the idea, the fact that people pay for a Brand does not transfer anything to the country’s treasury... so why not ban it! let them sell it but without the Brand!
  74. +2
    22 August 2017 07: 22
    Those who betrayed their flag are no different from the same Vlasovites. One word: traitors.
  75. +1
    22 August 2017 07: 42
    sport has long been no longer a sport, but a SHOW, that is, spectacles for money, and in this world there is no place for patriotism of one’s country, remember the Japanese and Koreans who at one time changed their citizenship in order to compete at the Olympics, interestingly they have already renounced their citizenship. And now about our people who tore their veins to earn big money and make a career as showmen from sports. my opinion was not to participate in these sports associations at all and decide for ourselves to go or not
  76. +2
    22 August 2017 09: 04
    I do not blame the athletes who competed at the Athletics Championships under a neutral flag (previously under such
    the flag was used by athletes protesting in their own against overdeed). What kind of condemnation can athletes deserve if they were brought up in our system. As for spitting, let the leaders of Russian Sports wipe it off. But as I wrote
    Mayakovsky “The silent mug is crafted cunningly, if you spit in the mug, he will wipe the mug.” If earlier participation in sports was encouraged, Now the Olympic Committee is counting the collection of money from television corporations and from advertising. Previously
    was the motto “The main thing is not victory, but participation.” Sports within the country and the attitude towards it has become consumerist. What are you like?
    fan, if you don’t place bets in various sweepstakes, you can go crazy. The main criterion for all countries is
    victory in the number of gold medals. But in the former GDR they went to medals through mass sports. I have a granddaughter at five
    I started figure skating years ago. I’m standing in the cold and waiting for the bus to work. I watch my family coming. I ask where they are going so early. It turns out they were allotted time for training from seven in the morning. Later the sports palace will be
    prepare pop stars for performances. This is the attitude towards novice athletes. We have not developed amateur sports at all. I looked at the structure of football in Germany. They have two amateur leagues. I’ll finish with the words of Firsov
    “We are looking for talented hockey players, but the Kharlamovs are running on the street. It’s just that their parents have nothing to pay for equipment, not to mention training.”
    1. 0
      23 August 2017 17: 40
      there is a swimming pool in the village - there are sections... - I decided to enroll my daughter - let her learn - they won’t take you - you’re already 10 years old - it’s too late - she won’t get into sports - so there’s no talk about sports - even if it doesn’t get included in the report, I say - no - We don’t work with people like that - free... took them to a paid one - don’t mind the money - it’s just that every summer they pull children from the bottom and they’re not small after all - 9-14 years old - apparently they were unpromising...
  77. +2
    22 August 2017 09: 18
    Hello from the 80s dash 00out. What they brought up is what they received. You’d better remember who lowered their own country into the mud, who shouted with a drunken hoarse: “Motherland! You’re my freak”... and the kids saw it, and they reeled it in, and now they’re slowly unwinding it.
  78. +2
    22 August 2017 09: 44
    There is a fairly simple solution. Since the country is not officially allowed to compete, then athletes who go to compete on their own initiative and under an unknown flag should be expelled from the federation, deprived of state support (if any) and bear all expenses on their own. No receptions from ministers, no participation in Russian championships (only for money and in open championships). I was initially on the side of the athletes, because... this is almost their only source of income. But then I thought that now is exactly the moment when the athlete has a real opportunity to repay the debt to the state, which directly participated in his becoming a professional athlete (sports schools, equipment, training). And since they thought that they didn’t owe the state anything, then fine. Let them train and perform exclusively privately now. But Russia does not buy broadcasts, does not send correspondents, and participates minimally in financing all these international offices and events.
    1. +1
      22 August 2017 11: 40
      I support it 200%, it came right out of my mouth. There is no country at the competition, which means the athlete goes at his own expense, competes for himself. The country should have at least some kind of pride and dignity.
  79. 0
    22 August 2017 09: 48
    And who are these, if I may say so, athletes? I don’t know anyone like that, and this despite the fact that I am fond of athletics and know many true Russian athletes!
  80. +3
    22 August 2017 10: 36
    Oh, how the gray mice swarmed... Not patriotic, for money.... Yes, each of these athletes works harder than all of you combined! And because of your philistine opinion, they should not flush the WORK of their entire lives down the toilet. I am proud of our athletes! Well done! They proved that in Russia, for the most part, it is CLEAN sport! And it doesn’t matter that the flag is neutral. The whole world now knows - these are RUSSIANS! Do you think that even at the training stage they did not receive numerous offers to change citizenship? But the guys didn’t break! And one more thing.... The Second World War was remembered here. Are there not enough examples of Soviet soldiers fighting fascism in underground partisan units in other countries? Often they didn’t even know their names, but everyone knew that it was RUSSIAN! The war against Russia never ended. Our athletes, even with “shackles,” are winning this war with dignity! I wish the same for you. Look around you, you will see a lot of imported things in your everyday life... Even the computer from which you condemn our athletes. Is it weak to throw all this away as a sign of patriotism?
  81. +3
    22 August 2017 10: 55
    If there are authors like Roman Skomorokhov, it means that someone needs them. But with such authors, everything turns out out of order: what lies nearby is still poorly mastered by the consciousness, what is behind is not assimilated by the consciousness, but is suggested, what is dreamed about is suspicious from the point of view of being unfulfilled, swaddled in one heap, under the general name PATRIOTISM, from which there is no escape, because only those hands into which one can put a weapon are considered necessary. Everything has the right to life, even death, and even more so the “betrayal” that the athletes committed. What life is dedicated to cannot be perceived in black and white, especially by those who see this life but do not understand it. What athletes create cannot be recreated. It is here now and will never be again. The same cannot be said about Skomorokhov’s opus. There will always be a place for him, perhaps with a rearrangement of accents and hints. which such people are great masters at. But mentioning writers, and artists in general, should be done with the greatest caution, because what the Europeans are now doing to Russian athletes, the Soviet government allowed itself to do the same, and even physically punished them. So, you can’t count the films on the shelves, the unreleased novels, the roles and plays that haven’t been played, the things that haven’t been sung or danced. And speaking of money, the skomorokhovs were especially well paid at that time.
  82. 0
    22 August 2017 11: 05
    The author is absolutely right! But the Anglo-Saxons cannot let this slide. And these athletes cannot be recognized in Russia, nor can their results.
  83. +2
    22 August 2017 11: 36
    In international affairs, whoever is stronger has more rights and dictates the terms. They themselves destroyed the USSR, they themselves weakened Russia, its economy, army and navy, and they themselves abandoned sympathetic countries to free floating. So what did we want after all this? Now we get what we deserve. There’s nothing you can do about it, you won’t go to war with England! You can ban exports from England, you can ban state symbols of Great Britain on the territory of the Russian Federation, but how often do we see these symbols here, how many tourists come to us from Great Britain. But all these are trifles, the main problem of Russia is the poor people! In Moscow and St. Petersburg they receive good salaries, but in the rest of Russia salaries are less than pensions. What, should everyone go to work in Moscow and St. Petersburg? And this vicious practice cannot be reversed as long as there is discrimination on territorial grounds in the country, as long as they pay many times more for the same work in Moscow than in Uryupinsk. But this is a blatant violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And no one cares, from the head of the local administration to the President, everyone is talking about some kind of average income for a constituent entity of the Russian Federation! But this is running in circles - the salaries of public sector employees are tied to the average for the region, and the average for the region depends on the salaries of state employees. Why so brazenly deceive people? As for the athletes, they have the right to speak for themselves, but there is no need to imply Russia in such conditions. Mutko needs to finally become a man and announce that Russia refuses to participate in such sporting events under such conditions. Wait until the 2018 FIFA World Cup and ban the UK team from competing under its national flag, fans from using national symbols, and those who don’t agree, go to your island.
  84. +1
    22 August 2017 12: 54
    modern sport is entrepreneurial activity! Well, almost, for example, those who play rounders are definitely not on fees.
  85. 0
    22 August 2017 13: 01
    TRAITORS !!!
  86. 0
    22 August 2017 13: 06
    It is necessary to answer, but asymmetrically! Create your own Olympic Games and hold other competitions, and I am more than confident that athletes from all over the world will participate in them!
  87. +1
    22 August 2017 17: 24
    It’s hard to blame athletes when the leadership of our sport has simply turned its back on them. I agree with the author that this is war, humiliation. And our leaders betrayed our athletes. Not a single lawsuit was filed against the films and reports and their authors. We must learn from Ukraine. If they had filed lawsuits, by the way, maybe there wouldn’t have been a ban on the performances of our athletes. And, so, they remained silent, which means they agreed.
  88. +2
    22 August 2017 17: 59
    They humiliate when those being humiliated do not particularly feel humiliated. And this is not only in sports. They spit on the national interests of this country. They impose sanctions along the entire perimeter of its economy. They arrest its citizens in third countries. interfere in its internal and external affairs... and that’s all, I’m not writing about Honduras.
  89. +3
    22 August 2017 22: 59
    Roman, I think that you have placed the emphasis incorrectly in your article. The question is not whose flag they acted under; of course, it’s not good that they are not under their own. But the fact is that they still performed and despite the fact that they simply did not want to let Russian athletes in at all, but by letting them in they showed that despite the truncated team we are strong. And you yourself write that it was impossible to use combinations of the Russian flag. It doesn’t matter at all if they are simply afraid; this is just how they showed their fear. Ostriches!
  90. +3
    23 August 2017 05: 17
    I do not agree with the position of the author of the article. If you are a patriot, then be in solidarity with the course of the party and government - give up imported gadgets, change to Lada, and relax in Sochi. Why do you condemn athletes and not the bitch Mutko? He doesn’t care about anything, everything is fine with him, he wasn’t even sent into retirement.
    Athletes have a short athletic life, so they need to take advantage of every opportunity to compete.
  91. +1
    23 August 2017 07: 34
    [quoteInternational sport today is a de facto alternative to war. ][/quote]
    The author suggests giving up. This is what they want from us. Get on your knees and ask for forgiveness. Like the majority, they fell for the slogans. The Vlasovites went over to the side of the enemy. Did our athletes compete under the enemy’s flag? Against your country? How many people have wondered, “Why is this athlete competing without a flag? Why isn’t his country’s anthem playing? Was he caught doping? - no! Did he break the laws? - no! He betrayed his country, renounced his citizenship! - No!
    They fought to let the whole world know that there is no tolerance in the Western world. They were not only deprived of the attributes of their state, they were not allowed to enter the team doctors and massage therapists. They did not allow the flag of another country to be raised amid the whistles and hooting of the liberals. The latest is to count other people's money. Bobrovsky Sergey from my city. With his own money, he buys uniforms for a children's hockey team and conducts master classes for goalkeepers of children's teams. I brought goalkeeper coach Ani Clark from Canada. Last year, boys - gatekeepers - came not only from all over Kuzbass, from the Novosibirsk region, Altai. Dmitry Orlov also does not stand aside.
    How many want to bury our sport and education alive. There was a lot of jokes here about our schools a year ago. How many international Olympiads have Russian schoolchildren won in computer science, mathematics, and chemistry THIS year?
  92. +2
    23 August 2017 08: 11
    The topic is extremely relevant, I completely agree with the author. Patriotism, although it may sound pretentious, is, first of all, love for the Motherland, and then for oneself beloved. And here, everyone decides for themselves what is more important to them. A Chechen policeman made a choice - “Work, brothers,” some film and pop figures - “Give Crimea back,” some government officials (they won’t point fingers) - “an alternate airfield in the west.”
    1. +1
      23 August 2017 22: 04
      What does “Crimea back” and our athletes have to do with it?? Well, you can’t discuss it without understanding anything about the topic? These 19 people did much more to glorify our country at the 2017 LA World Cup than, for example, our national football team over the last five years. Now compare the salaries of our lazy kickers, their results, their skills in the end, and how much our true patriots in LA, skiing, etc. earn through sweat and blood and loss of health.
  93. +1
    23 August 2017 09: 05
    Quote: Varyag71
    It’s annoying when they say that athletes stand for the prestige of the state

    Putin and Mutko said what kind of prestige is this? So let's go to Jerusalem!
    And don’t you dare have your own opinion...
  94. 0
    23 August 2017 09: 17
    Quote: Alexey Kotov
    Would file lawsuits

    We look up to them, we compare our stale breath against them... they are our partners... straight killer whales!
    Would you just file lawsuits against our dear teachers... would you also say and demand compensation for damage?
    You are all angry... Why, how he is heated, did you spill snot on the barricades?
  95. +1
    23 August 2017 11: 30
    Oh Sports, you WAS...I wonder how long our Country will tolerate this? Isn't it time to start letting the rest of the world down? If you can’t convince with words, come up with something more convincing. I, as a Citizen, do not like this attitude towards my Country from other states and I have the right to DEMAND from my Government to immediately stop such actions, and BY ANY AVAILABLE MEANS,
  96. 0
    23 August 2017 12: 37
    There is no need to reproach those athletes who decided to compete under a neutral flag, they are not traitors, just athletes who were preparing to win medals, after all, the years do not stand still for an athlete and you don’t want to lose them for nothing from the scoundrels from WADA.
  97. kig
    +2
    23 August 2017 13: 33
    If the author had been in 37, there would have been no price. I would find traitors on every corner.
  98. SAG
    +1
    23 August 2017 14: 16
    The author has a bold plus and is also gilded. He criticized everyone and everything, even the athletes who were given no other choice and branded them. No constructiveness, just dousing with slop. How he was going to respond to international organizations is not at all clear?! Anika the warrior alarmist!!!
  99. 0
    23 August 2017 18: 44
    Quote: svp67
    How exactly do they earn the money on which our sport lives? They INDEPENDENTLY pay coaches, doctors and even a bunch of service personnel from the amounts they receive for winnings.

    Let me know where you got this data from?! Apparently you are drawing an analogy, from tennis players to everyone else!!! So this is far from true.........
  100. +2
    23 August 2017 21: 57
    Dear comrade author, if you don’t understand the topic, then don’t write anything at all. Of all the books, you have only one correct thought: Mutko = mudko. But this is an obvious fact and does not need any special proof! But about the performance of our athletes at the 2017 LA World Championships. you are absolutely wrong! It was the performance in bestial conditions that showed everyone in the sports world that the Russian aircraft is alive, without doping!! And this is extremely important not only for us, but also for countries that do not support Anglo-Skas. Especially against the backdrop of the victories of honored American dopers! Do you even know who won the men’s 2-meter dash and how old he is and how many times and for what kind of doping he was caught?? Or maybe you know that our athletes beat such a national team as Germany in the team competition? Or are you aware of the amount of “legal” TUE doping among Americans? And so, offhand, the current legal dopers, according to WADA rules, are the “brothers” Williams, Rafael Nadal, Simone Bales... Are you aware of the sincere amazement of the Norwegian skier Johaug when she was caught using steroids and given not 18 months disqualification (as they are usually punished), and 2 months, then the girl burst into tears and began to break into hysterics, saying, “What’s wrong with us...” In general, if you don’t know the topic, don’t write! And I personally have no doubts about the patriotism of Shubenkov, Lasitsken and our other athletes. There are doubts about the patriotism of the bow-legged kickers who play in our championship and receive 3-XNUMX million euros in salaries, SALARY!! WITHOUT reference to the result..(((And you’re talking about the money of guys and girls plowing like hell and withstanding the wildest pressure and at the same time literally fighting for our country.. You should be ashamed of your namesake! Sorry for the emotions...

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