Ukrainian expert: We need to get Russian T-90A as a trophy

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The President of the Association of Arms and Military Equipment Manufacturers of Ukraine, Vadim Kodachigov, commented on the technological gap of the country for the Ukrainian media. At the same time, the fact that Kodachigov compared the technological gap between Ukraine in the military-industrial complex and the Russian Federation attracts attention.

According to the Ukrainian expert, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the two countries went along different technological routes. Ukraine - was engaged in modernization tanks T-80 and T-64, and Russia continued Soviet development and went on to create new tanks. Kodachigov said that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex "is so far powerless against the Russian T-90A." The president armory The association notes that an anti-tank missile of its own production would help the APU, however, gunsmiths in Ukraine are not aware of all the nuances of protection and the “filling” of the T-90A. At the same time, Ukrainian intelligence is criticized, which did not receive such information in a timely manner.

Kodachigov:
We need to get Russian T-90A as a trophy.


Attention is drawn to the further statement of Kodachigov:
To do this, you need to bomb one tanchik, preferably without destroying it much, take everything off it, do all the research and make maneuvers to circumvent their defense. ”




It is noteworthy that in the Ukrainian "expert" environment, such an opinion is expressed: it is necessary to establish contacts with India and China who are familiar with the modernized versions of Russian tanks and "could transfer anti-tank technologies to Ukraine." This once again proves the fact that Ukraine is ready to trade (both buy and sell) any technologies, even if their transfer can cause, to put it mildly, questions from the international community - both with rocket engines for the DPRK.

Recall that a few days ago - after the completion of "Tank Biathlon" - the Indian media, arguing about the failure of the team of soldiers of their country, said that the main reason - "outdated T-90 tanks, which must be immediately upgraded." Indian tankers could not reach the finish line. The case in tanks or ...
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  1. +6
    August 19 2017
    I remember in 1969 near Damansky China got a brand new trophy T-62, by the stupidity of the colonel who died in it!
    1. +17
      August 19 2017
      "You will get a hole from a donut, not Zheglov!" laughing
      1. +51
        August 19 2017
        Quote: Finches
        "You will get a hole from a donut, not Zheglov!" laughing

        Sharapova. You need to know the classics, as you quote. hi
        1. +18
          August 19 2017
          Oh! Exactly! This is a hangover, I see, I got it ... laughing Thank you! hi "Well, the mug is with you (me), Sharapov! Well, the mug!" laughing
          1. +21
            August 19 2017
            And where does this pan-and-pan iksperd want to trophy the T-90? In order to "bomb", he must at least meet somewhere. smile
            1. +8
              August 19 2017
              Yes, give them for desa something of their arsenal of the Detsky Mir store .. Let them copy it, if you want it so much ..
              1. +4
                August 19 2017
                Quote: Monos
                And where does this pan-and-pan iksperd want to trophy the T-90? In order to "bomb", he must at least meet somewhere. smile


                Greetings! hi if only in a dream and then only "fish". lol
                1. +9
                  August 19 2017
                  Happy Transfiguration Victor hi
                  I respect the APU ( bully ), but not sure if they are ready to storm UVZ for the sake of T-90.
                  1. +2
                    August 19 2017
                    And you with the Feast of the Transfiguration, it also seems to me like this - it takes a very long time to cut the corridor ... lol
                2. +4
                  August 19 2017
                  if on t 55 it’s big to write with white paint t 90- they will believe, buy and work with him.
            2. +19
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Monos
              And where does this pan-and-pan iksperd want to trophy the T-90? In order to "bomb", he must at least meet somewhere. smile

              yes you sho !!!! there are as many as 2 divisions in the Donbas and one more on the armatures ... I don’t want to take it, then I’ve knocked laughing
              1. +2
                August 19 2017
                Quote: Andy
                Quote: Monos
                And where does this pan-and-pan iksperd want to trophy the T-90? In order to "bomb", he must at least meet somewhere. smile

                yes you sho !!!! there are as many as 2 divisions in the Donbas and one more on the armatures ... I don’t want to take it, then I’ve knocked laughing
                1. +9
                  August 19 2017
                  Yes, you are right, I remember well the statement of one of their warriors that they burned these Almatys as a hello!
            3. +3
              August 19 2017
              Well, I do not understand what the problem is? they’re fighting the Russian Federation in Donbas for several years! laughing where are the trophies, but guys? no trophies, you don’t get it so easy, drag your tanks to Syria if the barmales don’t gouge you there, it means T 90, but as a trophy it will fire a rocket at you on board! good laughing
            4. +7
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Monos
              To do this, you need to bomb one tanchik, preferably without destroying it much, take everything off it, do all the research and make maneuvers to circumvent their defense. ”

              In the same place as a hundred Armats, which valiant Ukrainian warriors burned in the Donbass. wassat Apparently, too, they were trophy and learned how to defend the T-14. wassat
              1. +8
                August 19 2017
                Quote: NEXUS
                In the same place as a hundred Armat,

                Andrey, with respect hi smile
                Yes, really ... "Oh, these tales. Oh, these storytellers." (C). laughing
            5. +1
              August 19 2017
              They just get everything, here from the Censor Yaropolk Gendelsonovich
              People write that the most fashionable armored tank ARMATA burns under the “Coal” no worse than previous models. There is indeed a significant flaw. The crew survives. But, not scary. Horned can be changed to our lads.
              02.02.2015 09:26
              https://censor.net.ua/news/322694/ukrainskie_voin
              y_unichtojili_pyat_tankov_chetyre_bbm_i_tri_gruzo
              vika_terroristov_v_rayione_debaltsevo This is under Debaltseve they already beat
            6. +1
              August 20 2017
              Quote: Monos
              I’m about the failure of the military team of my country, they stated that the main reason is “obsolete T-90 tanks that need to be

              They can ask their friends in ISIS. It seems like they got one tank .. In general, the T-90 is not uncommon in the world - what are the problems? But that as a trophy - it is necessary on those theater of war where he fights.
          2. +3
            August 19 2017
            Well, you can, of course, send them a shell from the T-90, with delivery directly to the window, on his brainless head laughing
          3. +1
            August 19 2017
            Quote: Finches
            "Well, the mug is with you (me), Sharapov! Well, the mug!" laughing

            We all have good faces! lol © Gavrila Petrovich / Khmyr /
        2. +5
          August 19 2017
          said Zheglova .. means Zheglova, classics also sometimes make mistakes)
      2. +3
        August 19 2017
        We need to get Russian T-90A as a trophy.

        Yes, you need to go and take the T90, in the Donbass (everything is there. Like in Greece) or in Belgorod.
        current may not have time to disassemble it before the creation of the Dnieper Federal District
        but in general, freedom of speech and their infusion is pleasing.
        All such talkers, not just cohlushki with oysters
    2. +4
      August 19 2017
      Another crazy ideas of dill, it is difficult to imagine what their inflamed brain is capable of.
      1. +5
        August 19 2017
        Quote: Spartanez300
        it's hard to imagine what their inflamed brain is capable of


        Hey. What is the substance in the upper dill bone capable of? To tell? No, I’ll better demonstrate:

        "Adventures of Pinocchio" read? Remember the "field of fools"? Doesn’t resemble the current Ruin (bury your money and grow a tree ...)? bully
    3. +2
      August 19 2017
      Fuck you will soon get a walrus ..
      1. +25
        August 19 2017
        We need to get the Russian T-90A as a trophy

        Why is he Svidomo ..? They have a lot of trophies from the USSR, or rather they all sold out and destroyed .. You are our "brothers" insatiable!

        And here is the worst thing ...
        1. +8
          August 19 2017
          Meehan, this is not the worst photo.
          A worse cut is the nuclear submarine, according to the same program of NaNN-Lugarta.
          The ship seemed to be in repair, and its fate was needles.
          Moreover, everything was done very quickly. The shaggy 90s threw us back by 15 years. + 10 years to realize what they had done.
          For 20 years, 971 projects, ships have not been repaired, "so far with nothing."
          The 945s are puffing up.
          but also not Duncans MacLeods.
          1. +11
            August 19 2017
            Quote: VALERIK_097
            A worse cut is the nuclear submarine, according to the same program of NaNN-Lugarta.

            it was not in Ukraine. Mihan will not show ...
            I remember how proud the giants sawed at Discovery ...
            Yes, both of our countries are good .. we’ll find out who saw the coolest ...
            1. +3
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Catherine II
              Yes, both of our countries are good .. we’ll find out who saw the coolest ...

              But surely ..! Ah Slavs, they poison us under the gaggles and clapping our hands in the west ... Nevertheless, we have to shoot and then we’ll take up the West! soldier
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                1. +10
                  August 19 2017
                  Quote: viktor_ui
                  It would be nice _kov__, who gave the order to cut the new submarines themselves to send to the "cutting" ...

                  We’ll shoot, of course, traitors ..... But it will be difficult, the redhead is still in power .. (even Kvachkov’s colonel of the GRU) was again planted ...
                  Red bastard, you will answer for everything the masson damn ... negative

                  Heather Worm ...
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            2. +3
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Catherine II
              Quote: VALERIK_097
              A worse cut is the nuclear submarine, according to the same program of NaNN-Lugarta.

              it was not in Ukraine. Mihan will not show ...
              I remember how proud the giants sawed at Discovery ...
              Yes, both of our countries are good .. we’ll find out who saw the coolest ...

              Not "in", but "in" Ukraine! hi if you write in Russian.
        2. +3
          August 19 2017
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          And here is the worst thing ...

          This is one of many, alas ...

    4. +2
      August 19 2017
      Quote: andrewkor
      I remember in 1969 near Damansky China got a brand new trophy T-62, by the stupidity of the colonel who died in it!

      And why the colonel? It seems like the deputy commander in chief of the ground forces for armored forces was in the rank of army general, moreover, he was in the place of the driver, but was the commander in chief for the gunner, or did he sit for the tank commander? ...
    5. 0
      August 21 2017
      Quote: andrewkor
      I remember in 1969 under Daman China

      Right? There was an armored personnel carrier. And commander Strelnikov.
  2. +6
    August 19 2017
    But ukrovermaht had the opportunity to take him near Lugansk. The 80-holding airport reported on the attacks of this invulnerable Russian tank. They also complained that after Stugna launched ptur on t-90, the capture was disrupted and the rocket went up with subsequent self-liquidation. Only the curtain made itself felt, or something else. The tank inexorably arose during the battle, shot the enemy and suddenly disappeared.
    1. +9
      August 19 2017
      Are you raving Where did the T-90 come from near Lugansk?
      1. +15
        August 19 2017
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Where did the T-90 near Lugansk

        And what, should the militias fight with their bare hands? In particular, in 2014 near Lugansk dill wrote that the T90 battalion was coming against them, which they could not stop, and everyone was laughing. Although the stories were consistent, and no one wrote nonsense about Armata. And then photos and video of confirmation went. So ours do everything they can at the moment. We just don’t know a lot of things and they will tell us that.
        1. +6
          August 19 2017
          The record is dated 26 of August 2014 of the year.
          1. +4
            August 19 2017
            Did you spot it on the spotlights?)))
          2. +2
            August 19 2017
            Surprisingly, intelligence officers of the 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade captured tanks.
            https://voinskayachast.net/suhoputnie-voyska/moto
            strelkovie / vch90600
            Maybe they filmed their own tanks?
          3. +2
            August 19 2017
            Pieces six T-90 passed.
            1. +1
              August 19 2017
              Alexey hi At that time it was the best tanks in the army.
              1. +1
                August 19 2017
                The best tanks and the best tank regiments of Russia.
            2. +2
              August 19 2017
              The video is mounted. One tank drove six times.
              1. +1
                August 19 2017
                No. There are shots where two or three tanks are visible at the same time. In the foreground and background.
                T-90s participated in offensive operations that ended in military victories. Therefore, even damaged tanks did not go to the trophies for Ukrainians. After the operations, they were taken out of Donbass.
                Unlike the variations of the T-72 of the Russian army, which were transferred to the militias.
                And sometimes they several times passed from hand to hand in battles.
              2. +9
                August 19 2017
                Quote: 16112014nk
                The video is mounted. One tank drove six times.

                Yes, these videos do not prove anything because who is depicted on them and where it is not clear and the different captions for the video can be depicted by yourself if the Ukrainians captured and presented the T-90, then it would be proof and so "one grandmother told the second grandmother showed "that's the whole story about the T-90 in the Donbass.
                Although I agree that our militia should have been armed with the most effective weapons to destroy the punishers of Poroshenko (Valtsman)
              3. +2
                August 20 2017
                The point is to mount the video, if the video, if you believe the inscriptions of the intelligence officers of the 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade. Above I threw a link to the page of this 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade.
        2. +9
          August 19 2017
          Quote: Zibelew
          In particular, 2014 near Lugansk dill wrote that the T90 battalion was going against them

          Dill, dear, they wrote in the same way that they crushed a hundred Armats into a small salad in the Donbass. Continue to believe their statements, and soon they will sink the TARC Peter the Great. wassat
          1. 0
            August 19 2017
            Quote: NEXUS
            soon they will sink TARK Peter the Great.

            Drown, they drown. A small request, You will not indicate a point in the steppes of urkaina? I would be very grateful.
            1. +3
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Hedgehog
              A small request, You will not indicate a point in the steppes of urkaina?

              If the Great Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea, you have doubts that they are not able to dig the fifth ocean?
              1. 0
                August 20 2017
                In the area of ​​Chernivtsi, if only. Although I would prefer in the Lviv region.
          2. +5
            August 19 2017
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Zibelew
            In particular, 2014 near Lugansk dill wrote that the T90 battalion was going against them

            Dill, dear, they wrote in the same way that they crushed a hundred Armats into a small salad in the Donbass. Continue to believe their statements, and soon they will sink the TARC Peter the Great. wassat


            oh well already to find fault with such trifles !!! fellow wassat I remember, there was already a nuclear strike on them ... like a couple of times even !!! lol lol lol
    2. +11
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Zibelew
      The 80th holding airport reported on the attacks of this invulnerable Russian tank

      Fear has big eyes .. there was neither t-90 nor t-72b3 in LDNR NEVER.
      1. +2
        August 19 2017
        Dvina, yes, in general, there wasn’t any RA tools, somehow, like that
      2. +6
        August 19 2017
        Well, of course it wasn’t! it’s just a papier-mâché body kit to frighten the enemy more!
        1. +2
          August 19 2017
          This is similar to the T72B3. 1) Dynamic protection Contact-5. This in itself is not proof, but it is put on B3 instead of the first contact. 2) The wind sensor, which is also placed B3. 3) Caterpillars with parallel RMSh. 4) 2 gunner’s sights, on the right is the old and new Pine-U on the left. But this is purely a B3 chip. So, in the aggregate of everything - it’s 80% exactly B3. And if the gun and the engine are new, then everything is 100%, but this video cannot be determined.
          1. +7
            August 19 2017
            Quote: Zibelew
            The wind sensor, which is also placed B3

            THERE and the wind sensor and everything else .. technique APU.
          2. +1
            August 20 2017
            I saw similar tracks in 96 on the T-72. It also means was modified?
        2. +5
          August 19 2017
          Quote: st25310
          Well, of course it wasn’t! it’s just a papier-mâché body kit to frighten the enemy more!

          Before the military operations in Ukraine, there were approx. 250 T-72s., Contact-5 was adopted in 1985.
          What else to chew?
    3. +8
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Zibelew
      The 80th holding airport reported on the attacks of this invulnerable Russian tank

      It was Armata, an intern.
    4. +8
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Zibelew
      The tank inexorably arose during the battle, shot the enemy and suddenly disappeared.

      Straight "White TIGER"!
      1. +6
        August 19 2017
        Quote...
        Straight "White TIGER"!

        White, just white listen ...
    5. +4
      August 19 2017
      Or maybe it was Black Dembel ...
  3. +12
    August 19 2017
    With the amount that they had burned in the ATO since they were 14, they couldn’t capture one? laughing Both T-14 Armata and T-15 should have been dismantled and at least copied. They are there 100500 billion in the fields burned out.laughinglaughinglaughing
    1. +7
      August 19 2017
      With the amount that they burned from 14

      And how many T-90 A were burned? You probably do not know, but when the so-called ATO in 2014, the militia had weapons exclusively from Ukrainian warehouses.
      1. +15
        August 19 2017
        Bliiinn as with humor is shitty ... recourse
        1. +1
          August 19 2017
          If the word "burned" was taken in quotation marks, then with humor everything would be fine. And so I read what is written.
        2. 0
          August 19 2017
          Well, at least the emoticons delivered and added a comment - it's already good. So they listened.
      2. +3
        August 19 2017
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And how many T-90 A were burned?

        How many armored hoofs were crushed, so many T-90s were burned. tongue
      3. +3
        August 19 2017
        Quote: rotmistr60
        With the amount that they burned from 14

        And how many T-90 A were burned? You probably do not know, but when the so-called ATO in 2014, the militia had weapons exclusively from Ukrainian warehouses.

        You do not take into account that dill has already completely defeated the Russian army three times, so the dill of the anti-tank anti-tank association says that they slightly bombed, severely defeated two times three times — all to dust, as you can calculate how much.
        1. +2
          August 19 2017
          Well, yes - given the completely destroyed Russian tanks, including all the stockpiles, in the dust, there is only hope for the Indians - there are no more T-90s left alive.
    2. Tai
      +3
      August 19 2017
      Yes, they understand, they are immediately in pieces, or in chips, but this great mind, from the ukrovermaht, needs a whole! Probably wants to sell laughing
  4. +7
    August 19 2017
    To do this, you need to bomb one tank, preferably not destroying it much, remove everything from it, conduct all research and make maneuvers to circumvent their protection

    Well, I’d take it and “bomb it” ... And then such a simple one, to the point of insanity ... I wonder how many ukrovoins he is ready to put during such an operation?
    1. +5
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Spade
      Well, I’d take it and “bomb it” ... And then such a simple one, to the point of insanity ... I wonder how many ukrovoins he is ready to put during such an operation?

      Why are you sorry for them? And who pity them at all?
      1. +2
        August 19 2017
        The attitude of a "military expert" to the servicemen of his own army, as to some "consumables" like fuel filters, is abnormal
        1. +1
          August 19 2017
          In Ukraine, those who have power do not care about the population.
        2. +5
          August 19 2017
          Quote: Spade
          The attitude of a "military expert" to the servicemen of his own army, as to some "consumables" like fuel filters, is abnormal

          And where are you the adequacy and sanity, after the Maidan, in the APU then you saw?
  5. +6
    August 19 2017
    Indian tankers could not get to the finish line. It's about tanks or ...

    the deal is in the billion-dollar contract for the modernization of 1000 (one thousand) tanks ... that’s where the noise and howl about the quality of the machines are raised in order to bring down the price ... but where the T-90 dill gathered for “experiments” is the secret of the brain’s work tired of Svidomo ideas ...
  6. +10
    August 19 2017
    Gentlemen, well, it’s impossible!
    Let’s distinguish between experts and iksperds. Especially Svidomo iksperdy.
    The difference is still fundamental.
  7. +6
    August 19 2017
    Finely swim experts. They burned "Armat" countless ... And then it’s outdated, but in export version ...
    Yes, and tankers from the Indians, as it turned out ... So "decompose" the car on the highway - this must be managed. Ours told them that tanks are not yours, we will supply you with how much you ask. So no, we want it ourselves, we want it ourselves ... But then hands ... That's the result laughing
    1. 0
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Finely swim experts. They burned "Armat" countless ... And then it’s outdated, but in export version ...
      Yes, and tankers from the Indians, as it turned out ... So "decompose" the car on the highway - this must be managed. Ours told them that tanks are not yours, we will supply you with how much you ask. So no, we want it ourselves, we want it ourselves ... But then hands ... That's the result laughing

      The Indians could bring more tanks to the biathlon, economical, everything happens.
  8. +3
    August 19 2017
    Kodachigov:
    We need to get Russian T-90A as a trophy.

    And where is the money Zin?
    Even with the T-90, you still need at least a lot of money and 5 years to develop technology for the production of a working machine, and that’s not a fact
    1. mvg
      +1
      August 19 2017
      Maybe they bought what he ran in Syria and was put up for 500 thousand. They will drive it to Iraq, from there by a return flight, after delivering an armored personnel carrier to Iraq. Type for repairs, that's all the logistics.
  9. +7
    August 19 2017
    Here they will be surprised when they receive the T-90 NOT as a trophy .... feel
    1. +7
      August 19 2017
      On a pedestal in the new Kiev would look good.
      1. +11
        August 19 2017
        Quote: rotmistr60
        On a pedestal in the new Kiev would look good.

        On Vatutin Avenue smile
        1. +1
          August 19 2017
          Or Shoigu laughing can be on the square of V.V. Putin
      2. 0
        August 20 2017
        Quote: rotmistr60
        On a pedestal in the new Kiev would look good.

        Is it too bold? For dill and inflatable dummy enough.
  10. +4
    August 19 2017
    Well, the Germans, too, I remember, the shell from the Katyusha bombed, but could not repeat it until the end of the war. Who said that the non-brothers will succeed?
    1. +8
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      the shell from the Katyusha bombed, but could not repeat it until the end of the war.

      And they did not try to repeat! Just went the other way. they underestimated the Rsa. And when they gathered this direction to develop already the time allotted to them by history ended. and nothing high-tech in the RS-82, 132 was not. And by Germany’s high-energy explosives, the USSR was made like a bull by the USSR. It is a myth that Germany could not reproduce our RS.
      1. +4
        August 19 2017
        Well yes. And the tanks are better, and the planes are faster, and the guns are more precise, and the soldiers are more cultured. In general, Germany made the USSR like a bull a sheep. May 9, 1945 and did.
        Hello muskox!
        1. +3
          August 19 2017
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Hello muskox!

          are you now why ??
          1. 0
            August 20 2017
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            are you now why ??

            This is me to you
    2. mvg
      +3
      August 19 2017
      Blessed is he who believes .. and reads bedtime stories.
  11. +9
    August 19 2017
    Give them a self-extracting log from T-90A - let them study.
  12. +6
    August 19 2017
    . Indian tankers could not get to the finish line. It's about tanks or ...
    Our organization has been operating in India for over 10 years. According to colleagues: the level of technical culture in India is lower than any skirting board. Including engineering staff. The horror with a capital U. Hindus need another 100 years, that at least somehow grow up the technical intelligentsia in the amount that is needed to solve pressing (at least pressing) national problems. Hence all the jambs like "did not reach the finish line." Although our Hindu pilots speak quite positively. My colleague (former MiG-29 and Tu-22M3 pilot) participated in air battles with the Indians. He says that they are cooler than the NATO people with whom he also had to “twist”
    1. +3
      August 19 2017
      An evil partisan, please forgive me, but I ALWAYS thought that a fighter and a bomber were 2 DIFFERENT MACHINES. If your colleague has the surname Munchausen then it is possible.
      Tu 22 M3 is a "strategist", and on it the "carousel" is not twist
      1. +5
        August 19 2017
        Quote: Monarchist
        Your colleague has the surname Munchausen

        My Colleague has the last name Strakhov. And on the Tu-22M3 he retrained for several years. Their regiment was in Birobidzhan. Any questions? wink
      2. +1
        August 19 2017
        God works in mysterious ways. I have a good friend, a military officer with awards (retired) - a long-range aviation pilot-navigator (TU 95), a Mi-24 helicopter pilot and many others. In the 90s it was fun and went where they paid.
    2. mvg
      +1
      August 19 2017
      There are very few pilots who, after the strategist, will switch to the fighter and vice versa. Someone, to put it mildly, is lying ... When he told me - how much was drunk? Yes, and "twisted" here and there ... This is not Sergei Bogdan?
      1. +5
        August 19 2017
        Quote: mvg
        Someone, to put it mildly, is lying ...

        Do not lie. I saw the pictures.
        Quote: mvg
        There are very few pilots who, after the strategist, will switch to the fighter and vice versa.

        Yes, that is right. Earring is a rare exception to the rule. I’ll try to spin it up for an interview and post it to VO. Yes
        1. mvg
          0
          August 19 2017
          About Bogdan joked)
          1. +1
            August 19 2017
            Quote: mvg
            About Bogdan joked

            And Seryoga studied with him. Yes
      2. +2
        August 19 2017
        after leaving Kazakhstan, almost the entire regiment transferred to strategists. retraining just 8 months. I don’t know the transitions (to fighters).
  13. +12
    August 19 2017
    Expert)) who issued this certificate to the clown that he is an expert?
    1. +8
      August 19 2017
      ABOUT!!!! Our people have gone underground! laughing
      Hi Andrew! hi
      1. +8
        August 19 2017
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Our people

        These "people", by the way, drowned for the Euroassociation with two legs Yes . Well, what is Kars there, what improvements have occurred over 4 years? lol Come on, tell me, I have all the attention. Yes
        1. +5
          August 19 2017
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          These "people", by the way, drowned for the Euroassociation with two legs

          Who was not mistaken - let him throw a stone at me .... laughing
          1. +5
            August 19 2017
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Who was not mistaken - let him throw a stone at me ....

            Already Yes . Catch. wink
        2. +3
          August 19 2017
          Well, for starters, I always wrote that Yanukovych will not sign an agreement on Eurosociation.
          1. +2
            August 19 2017
            I did not understand: and here it is:
            Quote: Kars
            To begin with, I always wrote that Yanukovych will not sign the Euro-OSation agreement.
            drowned for the Euroassociation? Drowned. I wrote to you about an example with a gas pipeline design company from Ivano-Frankivsk, which in 2013 was removed from the site for jambs and because of the uncertainty in the relationship between Russia and Ukraine. What did you write then? Do you remember? wink I’ll remind you. You wrote that let them design gas pipelines in the EU lol . Aren't you funny right now? And it was funny to me back in 2013. Yes
            Well, tell me: WHAT Europeans have improved there? About civil society, freedom from communism and Leninism, please do not tell ... sad
            Yes. And tell me separately about the tariffs and about your salary, and I'll see how badly I live in Mordor with a salary of 80 rubles ...
            1. +4
              August 19 2017
              Do not you really confuse me with someone.
              1. +2
                August 19 2017
                Quote: Kars
                Do not you really confuse me with someone.

                No Kars, I don’t confuse. The memory of a chess player. Yes True, I was then in the reincarnation of a senior citizen ... feel
                I remember evrything. winked
                1. +3
                  August 19 2017
                  I don’t remember anyway. Moreover, it’s shameful that the mentioned company would look for other customers? Did you follow its further work? In fact, Yanukovych got European integration from Putin on gas and credit in 15 billions.
                  But he could not cope with the Maidan, and not the fact that Putin at some point saw in the Maidan the opportunity to overcome Crimea)
                  And so yes, it has become much worse for me personally. You can rejoice.
                  1. +3
                    August 19 2017
                    Quote: Kars
                    What is shameful that the mentioned company would look for other customers? Have you followed its further work?
                    Kars, are you serious ?? But who in the EU needs your Ivanofrankivtsi !!!!!! There mine as dirt !! yes
                    Quote: Kars
                    And so yes, it has become much worse for me personally. You can rejoice.
                    I will not rejoice, do not hope. I have many colleagues in Ukraine, as I worked there very tightly there. We keep in touch. The general opinion from them: arctic fox. And it will only get worse. Moreover: EVERYONE has left the field of mining. Yes. And half (approximately) generally left Ukraine. And you continue to drown for Euro-association. Maybe that will improve.
                    1. +6
                      August 19 2017
                      I would just be peace))
                      1. +1
                        August 19 2017
                        Quote: Kars
                        I would just be peace))

                        Three brackets actually mean sarcasm, banter, humor. Do you have fun there?
                        Kars. It is time to understand that Ukraine without Russia does not exist at all. These are 2 Russian states, which is unnatural. And you are RUSSIAN, as if you did not want to seem Ukrainian.
                  2. +1
                    August 19 2017
                    Quote: Kars
                    I don’t remember anyway.

                    All Ukraine now says so. I received 2 people from Makeevka at my place. They are already citizens of the Russian Federation, but in conversations skips about a single and indivisible Ukraine.
                  3. +1
                    August 19 2017
                    We are not happy, it pains us to look at it, many have relatives and friends there.
                2. +3
                  August 19 2017
                  Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                  I remember evrything.

                  Who doesn’t remember the prophetic "... And I remember everything - I was not drunk ..." wassat
                  1. +2
                    August 19 2017
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    rooro

                    These are not prophetic, they are already fatal ... sad
      2. +5
        August 19 2017
        Hi. Yes I am. It seems that it’s not underground) it’s just a new site design that’s not very convenient. I write sometimes.
        1. +1
          August 19 2017
          Quote: Kars
          Hi. Yes, I am. AT.

          By the way. Maybe you still do not know:
          The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine has reduced gas consumption standards for the population that does not have gas meters.
          So, in the presence of a gas stove and centralized hot water supply, the norm is reduced from 4,4 to 3,3 m³ per person per month. In the absence of a centralized hot water supply and gas water heater, the norm is reduced from 7,1 to 5,4 m³, and in the presence of a gas water heater, from 14 to 10,5 m³.
          In the absence of centralized hot water supply, the rate of natural gas consumption per stove will be set at 5,4 m³ per person per month.
          Recall that now 1 m³ of gas for residents of the “independent” costs 6,9 UAH.

          Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1503131801

          Kars. Continue to integrate further. In a year I’m waiting for a report on the results (successes) lol ) integration. Maybe we did not correctly predict the outcome of this process? what No, I do not believe it! How could a 45 millionth country be mistaken ?? By the way. about 45 million.
          http://29ru.net/pu/kiev/101851569/
          Your govnorsurs. Study.
          1. +3
            August 19 2017
            I have a counter.
            1. +1
              August 19 2017
              Quote: Kars
              I have a counter.

              I'm happy for you. Yes And for the sake of the counter, you threw off Yanukovych. I understand correctly? wink
              And what do you say about the depopulation of Ukraine? Waiting for an expert assessment. Yes
              1. +1
                August 20 2017
                I have a counter with 2008
                I didn’t throw off Yanukovych, but in the crucial moment Putin didn’t support Yanyka, I’m sure that I would squeeze the Crimea. And then I still don’t know what hoping the government of Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko recognized.
                Depopulation, I personally do not care.
  14. +3
    August 19 2017
    So they burned hundreds of Armata tanks near Debaltseve! Why do they need a rare T-90?
    But seriously, Russia should have fenced off the pigsty with minefields and thorns for a long time, and introduced a severe visa regime for puppies. Ukrodiversants on Russian territory should be ruthlessly destroyed, and do it publicly.
    1. +1
      August 19 2017
      Quote: RED PARTISAN
      Introduce the most severe visa regime for puppies. Ukrodiversants on Russian territory should be ruthlessly destroyed, and do it publicly.

      Listen to you .. you would all 37 year .. Partners would hear you - they will still destroy the Russians under the guise of saboteurs for fun on both sides of the border .. purely for a passport.
      1. +4
        August 19 2017
        I do not hide the fact that with great willingness I would take part in the physical elimination of Russophobia. I do not see anything terrible in the destruction of the enemies of Russia; on the contrary, this issue requires urgent measures. Unlike Stalin, who sent Bandera and forest brothers to the camps, I am a supporter of their immediate elimination, whom by the verdict of the court, and whom and when caught on the hot.
      2. +4
        August 19 2017
        Quote: Catherine II
        Partners will hear you - they will still exterminate the Russians under the guise of saboteurs for fun on both sides of the border .. purely for a passport.


        Katya! All of the above are your wet dreams. God forbid you stir up something against the Russians in the Baltic states or in Ukraine. I guarantee: the Iskanders, Tochk-U and others and others will fly to you ...
        1. +1
          August 19 2017
          They will not fly, just polite little men will come and put things in order! If they fly, it’s only for a puddle, on an island and western Europe!
          1. +1
            August 20 2017
            Indeed, why the neighboring territories to foul?
  15. +3
    August 19 2017
    Recall that a few days ago, after the completion of the Tank Biathlon, the Indian media, arguing about the failure of the military team of their country, stated that the main reason was "outdated T-90 tanks that need to be modernized immediately."

    Yes! Hindus are absolutely right. Well, you can’t do it like the last suckers - ride on non-modernized tanks. And here there are proposals for modernization. Check the price list, please.
  16. +2
    August 19 2017
    Our people went in there, solved certain problems and went out right there (if ours hadn’t done this, I wouldn’t forgive Putin). Everything is possible in the war, its main principle is "everything that could go wrong went wrong."
  17. +1
    August 19 2017
    Quote: Spade
    To do this, you need to bomb one tank, preferably not destroying it much, remove everything from it, conduct all research and make maneuvers to circumvent their protection

    Well, I’d take it and “bomb it” ... And then such a simple one, to the point of insanity ... I wonder how many ukrovoins he is ready to put during such an operation?

    And I did not count: how much lay down. I need a result. Says Kondachigov.
  18. 0
    August 19 2017
    It's about tanks or ... \\\
    Bad dancer, everyone knows what is in the way.
  19. +4
    August 19 2017
    From the moment of creation, the main idea, a smaller mass and a minimum internal volume were laid in the T-64 tank. It led to the futility of this tank, since the engine, chassis and other components are squeezed into specific dimensions that cannot be changed. Already on the T-64A modification, everything worked to the limit of its capabilities, without a margin of safety, especially in the chassis and power plant, of a two-stroke diesel engine with a horizontal arrangement of cylinders. On the T-72 there is still a reserve for the development of weight. Hence, its prospects. And the fact that this balabol carries about different paths in tank building after the collapse of the USSR is a complete blizzard.
  20. +5
    August 19 2017
    Sorry, that’s not the topic. Today, Orthodox Christians celebrate "Apple Savior." Orthodoxy is part of our historical culture, and if so then all with the List. Health to all
  21. +2
    August 19 2017
    You will receive instructions on how to make coffins!
    1. +3
      August 19 2017
      Why coffins? An Austrian mobile crematorium is available for the non-brothers.
  22. +4
    August 19 2017
    As I understand it, svidomye doubted in idle jewels laughing
  23. +1
    August 19 2017
    Kodachigov: We need to get the Russian T-90A as a trophy.

    Can’t you spread the lips with jam? belay laughing
  24. +4
    August 19 2017
    You will receive instructions on how to make coffins!

    The inscription on the box with grenades: Open the box strictly according to the instructions. Instructions inside the box. laughing
  25. +1
    August 19 2017
    To do this, you need to bomb one tanchik, preferably without destroying it much, take everything off it, do all the research and make maneuvers to circumvent their defense. ”

    Total business! laughing
  26. 0
    August 19 2017
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Quote: Monarchist
    Your colleague has the surname Munchausen

    My Colleague has the last name Strakhov. And on the Tu-22M3 he retrained for several years. Their regiment was in Birobidzhan. Any questions? wink
  27. +1
    August 19 2017
    no, there are no healthy people there. all for reorganization.
  28. +4
    August 19 2017
    They judge other countries on their own. If VNA in Ukraine selling technology to the right and to the left is considered a cool business, in China people are cutting heads for it.
  29. +1
    August 19 2017
    Have you tried to buy?
  30. +1
    August 19 2017
    Quote: Kars
    What is shameful that the mentioned company would look for other customers? Have you followed its further work?

    Kars, are you serious ?? But who in the EU needs your Ivanofrankivtsi !!!!!! There mine as dirt !! Yes
    Quote: Kars
    And so yes, it has become much worse for me personally. You can rejoice.

    I will not rejoice, do not hope. I have many colleagues in Ukraine, as I worked there very tightly there. We keep in touch. The general opinion from them: arctic fox. And it will only get worse. Moreover: EVERYONE has left the field of mining. Yes. And half (approximately) generally left Ukraine. And you continue to drown for Euro-association. Maybe that will improve.
  31. +3
    August 19 2017
    angry partisan, it’s strange as it is expressed. What didn’t they take in 14 Kiev? Now I can clearly see that Putin does not need anything except Crimea.
    1. +6
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Kars
      it’s strange as it is expressed. What didn’t they take in Kiev? And now I can clearly see that Putin does not need anything except Crimea.

      Here are a few questions:
      - And how much Russia would need Kiev model 14 years, with his foolishness? No, first “get drunk” by her in full, and only then we will look at how much we need you.
      - But what do you personally need Kars, do you already understand? And most importantly HOW to achieve and achieve
    2. +5
      August 19 2017
      Quote: Kars
      it is somehow expressed. that in 14 Kiev they did not take it?

      What are you talking about ?? fool
      Nobody needs you. Eat your shame with buckets and pans. You were warned. And on this site too.
      Quote: Kars
      I see perfectly

      We kind of have already seen: how do you see the future of Ukraine. For almost 4 years now. I even then began to envy you. And now ...wassat
      But seriously. Now only usherny does not make fun of you. Honor Inosmi. Ukraine, even in the European media, has already become a byword in languages, as an example of a bad country in all senses, which they even discourage from going to. Read it. You learn a lot of interesting things about yourself (as a Ukrainian ...). But RUSSIAN-afraid!
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  32. +3
    August 19 2017
    It’s strange ... they seem to shout that there are more T-90s in the Donbass than in all of Russia - can not they really agree and buy it?
  33. +3
    August 19 2017
    Ukraine - was engaged in the modernization of the T-80 and T-64 tanks, and Russia continued its Soviet development and set about creating new tanks.
    You can not read further ... And the T-64 and T-80 is a WHAT development state, not really Ukrainian? Although I won’t be surprised ...
  34. +3
    August 19 2017
    Quote: gabonskijfront
    Already on the T-64A modification, everything worked to the limit of its capabilities, without a margin of safety, especially in the chassis and power plant, a two-stroke diesel engine with a horizontal arrangement of cylinders

    Do not tell tales. Compare the power of the TDF-5 and TD-6, and they are completely interchangeable.
  35. +2
    August 19 2017
    Ukrainian intelligence ... the same intelligence as Ukrainian factories - industry.
    One thing is not clear how the Ukrainians in the Donbass "knocked out several hundred T-90s", and at the same time having occupied so much territory they could not capture a single instance?
    1. +3
      August 19 2017
      Tolik Chubais is to blame for everything. But he made these T-90s using nano technology! Have you tried to catch a nanotank, which you can’t see in any small scope? Ah yes Tolik, Ah yes modern Lefty smile
  36. +1
    August 19 2017
    Yeah, come take it! They already asked you: “Where is he ?,” we have stored up a tank for him! tongue
  37. +1
    August 19 2017
    And why so modestly T-90 to dream so to dream come on now, sleep on Armature T-14 let’s take a picture of comrades from America and then copy (from improvised materials the corners of the channel there + armature) and into the battle. right up to Vladik with such a prodigy
  38. +1
    August 19 2017
    In the ATO, according to their intelligence, several T-90 divisions .- Probably, Ukrainians will both see (hear) and run, but only back. Natsik.
  39. +2
    August 19 2017
    Yes Yes. We have already heard plans to de-energize the Crimea, well, this is when some not-so-distant representatives of the Mejlis tried to cut an electric cable under water with pliers. We remember how Islyamov said that he traced along the pillars (?!) where the cable runs. Another project of the inhabitants of the chamber №6.
  40. 0
    August 19 2017
    Quote: Fitter65
    Quote: andrewkor
    I remember in 1969 near Damansky China got a brand new trophy T-62, by the stupidity of the colonel who died in it!

    And why the colonel? Does it seem like the deputy commander in chief of the Task for Armored Forces was in the rank of army general, moreover, he sat in the place of the driver, but was the commander in chief for the gunner, or did he sit for the tank commander? ...
    The head of the 57th border detachment, Colonel Leonov D.V., commanded a group of 4 xT-62s, his tank was hit, and he was killed by a sniper, and the Kiaits were dragged from under the ice to their shore.
  41. +1
    August 19 2017
    or .. in the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat ...
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  43. 0
    August 19 2017
    Entire columns of tanks knocked out and that not a single T-90A came across? or managed to sell? But most likely it was all a fake of the brave warriors of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      August 20 2017
      Not only columns of tanks, but also Armata ....
  44. +1
    August 19 2017
    “We need to get the Russian T-90A as a trophy.” Dreams of an idiot.
  45. +2
    August 20 2017
    Why do they need a T-90? If they "T-14" burn normally.
  46. 0
    August 20 2017
    As soon as the courage to make such a statement ?! A couple of months ago I personally read in the Ukrainian press how the T-80 tank differs from the T-90, where it was laid out on twenty questions how much the T-80 tank is better and better than the T-90 tank! Is it clear?
  47. 0
    August 20 2017
    try to get a tank.
  48. 0
    August 20 2017
    Apparently begging from milestones from the 404th is right in the blood.
  49. 0
    August 20 2017
    Yes! And after the "study .. to circumvent their protection" to sell it all to Americans for good money.
  50. 0
    August 21 2017
    They brought the Western "benefactors" of the country and local Aborigines (castrylegol, ancient ukrov) to complete insanity.
  51. 0
    August 23 2017
    This is all bullshit! They also have a wonderful, brilliant eighth-grader who invented impenetrable armor for tanks. He already explained everything to the designers. Call him again, let him chew it out, since you didn’t understand. am fool

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