KLA: The release of IL-114-300 will save $ 5 billion

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On Thursday in Irkutsk, a meeting on civil aviation under the leadership of Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. One of the topics concerned the plans for the production of a twin-engine turboprop aircraft for the regional airlines Il-114-300, reports RIA News

According to the president of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC) Slyusar, UAC is preparing to begin production of this model with 2022 year. The corporation’s task is to produce 12 airplanes per year; it is planned to supply 57 airplanes to the domestic market instead of the outdated An model.

KLA: The release of IL-114-300 will save $ 5 billion


Production of IL-114 will save the order of 5 billions of dollars that would have been spent to buy similar equipment from our foreign competitors
- said Slyusar.

The IL-114 is designed for regional transport. Designed by Ilyushin Design Bureau in the USSR. The construction of the machines was organized in the 1980-s on the basis of the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov, where it was released around 20 aircraft.

On the instructions of the President of Russia, UAC began the program to modernize the IL-114 to provide Russian airlines with fully domestic-made cars with a capacity of about 60 passengers.
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  1. +13
    17 August 2017 17: 42
    Hopefully, 57 planes, like 12 planes a year, are just the beginning.
    1. +18
      17 August 2017 18: 02
      Quote: Kurare
      Hopefully, 57 planes, like 12 planes a year, are just the beginning.

      We’ve been flying civilians for a couple of years now, the price is almost like a gazelle. The right thing, in the days of the USSR, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population, I don’t want to fly anywhere in the country ... Until now, I was impressed by my childhood flight to Tu -134 flew to the Black Sea to rest more than once ..
      1. +17
        17 August 2017 18: 11
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        in Soviet times, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population, I don’t want to fly anywhere in the country ...

        So remember before going to bed with a good word and the USSR, and the socialist system ... And then you praises to the colonel general sang ...
        1. +10
          17 August 2017 18: 26
          So remember before going to bed with a good word and the USSR, and the socialist system ... And then you praises to the colonel general sang ...


          the main thing is not to live in parallel reality and not to compare capitalism and socialism, grieving for the past

          it's time to wake up in 25 years.

        2. +13
          17 August 2017 18: 29
          Quote: Esoteric
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          in Soviet times, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population, I don’t want to fly anywhere in the country ...

          So remember before going to bed with a good word and the USSR, and the socialist system ... And then you praises to the colonel general sang ...

          Well, let's praise the capitalist, you will reach the Marshal! What kind of evil envy?
          I have one plus, I can compare systems .. And alas, capitalism is in the red, and democracy does not mention this word at all .. (the monitor is a pity the second ..))) These are the things Yuri Vasilievich (why did you take the woman on the avatar? Hehe ))))
          1. mvg
            +6
            17 August 2017 19: 49
            I never liked this type of "Department-Meehan", but here you can put a plus. There is that of 80 years to take. And not necessarily 1 grade of sausage (but from meat).
            1. +13
              17 August 2017 20: 01
              The aircraft IL-114 is designed for regional transportation. Designed by Ilyushin Design Bureau in the USSR. The construction of machines was organized in the 1980s on the basis of the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov, where it was released about 20 aircraft. - from article

              The IL-114 aircraft, which was already being manufactured in the USSR more than 40 years ago, was designed almost half a century ago, and only now it will go back into series in single copies, in Russia in the 21st century for regional airlines ?!
              Hurray, gentlemen, comrades!
              As one political leader of the Russian Federation said: "In the USSR, nobody needed galoshes were made." And now we will give, and what will we give? More than 95% of the air transportation of passengers in modern Russia is made by foreign aircraft, and mostly used ones that flew off to the USA, Europe, some even in Africa - this is for those who are not in the know.
              It's a shame ...
              1. +4
                17 August 2017 20: 37
                more than 40 years ago already manufactured in the USSR belay vladimirZ Vladimir, didn’t you mess with the IL-14?
                1. +7
                  17 August 2017 20: 48
                  more than 40 years ago, belay vladimirZ Vladimir, already manufactured in the USSR, didn’t you mess with the IL-14? - heather

                  No, I didn’t mix it up. Mistaken over the years, for 10 years, and nothing more. Mechanically from 80, until 2022 - the planned year of release, I figured. But by then the situation will approach the figures written by another.
              2. MMX
                +3
                18 August 2017 05: 57
                Quote: vladimirZ
                The aircraft IL-114 is designed for regional transportation. Designed by Ilyushin Design Bureau in the USSR. The construction of machines was organized in the 1980s on the basis of the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov, where it was released about 20 aircraft. - from article

                The IL-114 aircraft, which was already being manufactured in the USSR more than 40 years ago, was designed almost half a century ago, and only now it will go back into series in single copies, in Russia in the 21st century for regional airlines ?!
                Hurray, gentlemen, comrades!


                This is you tell the American Boeing. They are fools and did not know that it is impossible to produce the 737th so far since the 60s. And they still produce it, and do not hesitate that someone especially “smart” will point a finger at them and say: “Shame! The 21st century is in the yard!”

                And yes, where did 40 years come from (and even more so, "almost half a century")?
                1. +4
                  18 August 2017 08: 07
                  This is you tell the American Boeing. They are fools and did not know that it is impossible to produce the 737th so far since the 60s. And still produce, and are not shy, - MMX

                  Do you understand what irony and sarcasm are? IL-114 had to be built the day before yesterday, so this aircraft is needed for Russian airlines.
                  And ours seized only today, when there was nothing to transport air passengers on, and sanctions hit in all directions. His present is not, so grabbed for Soviet projects. And this will not help in order to revive the priority of using our own aircraft on our airways.
                  And why? Yes, because all sectors of the economy, including aviation, are run by people who do not understand anything in the specifics of what they are managing, and even worse, corrupt officials who are looking for kickbacks in any business,% of the transaction, bribes for the conclusion of the transaction, and not state interests . And this affects everyone.
                  By analogy with the popular joke - "The system is rotten - you need to change, almost everything" - the plumber concluded, examining a poorly functioning housekeeping.
                  1. MMX
                    0
                    18 August 2017 11: 28
                    Quote: vladimirZ
                    This is you tell the American Boeing. They are fools and did not know that it is impossible to produce the 737th so far since the 60s. And still produce, and are not shy, - MMX

                    Do you understand what irony and sarcasm are? IL-114 had to be built the day before yesterday, so this aircraft is needed for Russian airlines.
                    And ours seized only today, when there was nothing to transport air passengers on, and sanctions hit in all directions. His present is not, so grabbed for Soviet projects. And this will not help in order to revive the priority of using our own aircraft on our airways.
                    And why? Yes, because all sectors of the economy, including aviation, are run by people who do not understand anything in the specifics of what they are managing, and even worse, corrupt officials who are looking for kickbacks in any business,% of the transaction, bribes for the conclusion of the transaction, and not state interests . And this affects everyone.
                    By analogy with the popular joke - "The system is rotten - you need to change, almost everything" - the plumber concluded, examining a poorly functioning housekeeping.


                    You may not be aware, but the IL-114 appeared in the 90s, when a huge country had a tiny budget. Now the situation has changed and returned to the projects. IL-114 is not in itself a value. If it is competitive, it means a successful aircraft and it must be produced regardless of the year of design. If not, then you need to look for a new solution. Everything is simple.
                    1. 0
                      18 August 2017 20: 12
                      If it is competitive, it means a successful aircraft and it must be produced regardless of the year of design. If not, then you need to look for a new solution. Everything is simple. - MMX

                      No. Not so simple in Russian reality. Starting from the fact that Nowadays, the well-known Serdyukov, the former Minister of Defense, the one who is a furniture maker, is supervised by the aviation industry in Rostekhnologii, is supervised by Deputy Prime Minister Rogozin, journalist, diplomat, doctor of philosophical sciences and doctor of technical sciences, chairman of the board of the Military Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation, holder of a very large number of posts and posts in different councils and commissions, - ending with a real lack of opportunity something to build for civil aircraft.
                      Well, the construction of the Superjet at the Komsomol Aircraft Plant, which builds mainly military aircraft, mainly fighter-bombers, and which (in spite of its widely advertised campaign in Russia) is not really needed by anyone, can be called a major breakthrough.
                      Now MS-21 is being built at the Irkutsk plant, which also specializes in military specifics. Perhaps it will be a good plane, as they say "God forbid!" But that in Russia there are no civil aircraft manufacturing plants left ready to accept a civilian project for construction and start building it in large numbers?
                      And this is not even the main thing in the civil aviation of the Russian Federation - the construction of its own passenger aircraft. The main thing is who will operate these aircraft in Russia, what is the air campaign? Most of them, created as if for competition, eke out a miserable financial existence, and simply do not have the opportunity to buy new planes, they take mostly used cheap air travel, and they do not work on regional lines, it is unprofitable.
                      In modern Russia, regional passenger air transportation is almost completely closed. Who is waiting for IL-114?
            2. +3
              17 August 2017 20: 40
              Quote: mvg
              I never liked this type of "Department-Meehan", but here you can put a plus.

              I'm shocked straight ... This thing needs to be washed urgently! drinks

              Goodbye men .. hi wassat
              1. mvg
                0
                17 August 2017 21: 00
                The idea is good, but unrealizable.
                They have mumblers and snacks on the table. Yes, and far from Friday. So tea. In vyhi, in the country, you can wash, but even that is unlikely. There is no reason. Barca was exhausted with Real, Zenit lost, Krasnodar will merge today ... so there is no reason.
              2. +1
                17 August 2017 21: 39
                Hamlet men rehearse. Workdays. What did you think
        3. +8
          17 August 2017 20: 34
          before the colonel general sang ... You don’t have to be rude to the Department. It has more experience than you. You don’t know how to offend a person. You got divorced on the site.
      2. +9
        17 August 2017 18: 20
        5 rubles cost a 100km flight to AN 2. Flight: Gorky-Sochi cost 40 rubles one way. Pleasure, I will say not very cheap. No promotions and discounts .... Therefore, it’s even cheaper now that you can find a flight.
        1. +6
          17 August 2017 18: 33
          Quote: AwaZ
          5 rubles cost a 100km flight to AN 2.

          I was a student flying on the L-410, the two of us were just in the cabin (4 rubles 220 km) We felt like sheikhs (the end of the 80s was))))
          1. +3
            17 August 2017 19: 04
            Quote: DEPARTMENT

            0
            DEPARTMENT Today, 18: 33 ↑ New
            Quote: AwaZ
            5 rubles cost a 100km flight to AN 2.

            As a student, I flew on L-410, the two of us were just in the cabin (4 rubles 220 km)

            Students on a student ID had a 50% discount. From Moscow to Samara flew for 9 rubles (about 1000 km).
            1. +2
              17 August 2017 20: 40
              Nizhneangarsk-Ulan-Ude. 12 grouse in 2,5 hours of flight. Almost 400 km. Far 70. On the AN-2!
          2. RL
            +3
            17 August 2017 20: 15
            L-410 Czech aircraft. As it was and will remain, despite many statements about the transfer of production to Russia. Will not tolerate
            1. +9
              17 August 2017 20: 30
              Quote: RL
              Will not tolerate

              Oops ..., belay it is necessary as categorically lol , and where is the afternoon? - Aircraft Industries, fully owned by the Ural Mining and Metallurgical Company (UMMC, the city of Verkhnyaya Pyshma, Sverdlovsk Region), but it’s catching up Production of aircraft L-410 established in Yekaterinburg
              1. RL
                +1
                17 August 2017 20: 55
                And in pursuit. Nothing is mastered there, but the statements of Mr. Alexander Platonov, the chief designer of the UZGA, regarding the production of the L-410 in Yekaterinburg, are very far from reality
                1. +4
                  17 August 2017 22: 33
                  Quote: RL
                  And the statements of Mr. Alexander Platonov, the chief designer of the UZGA, regarding the production of the L-410 in Ekaterinburg, are very far from reality

                  Follow the link https://topwar.ru/111595-proizvodstvo-samoletov-l
                  -410-nalazheno-v-ekaterinburge.html, do not be lazy .. Do not like the first one here I will fill that http://promvest.info/ru/novosti-promyishlennosti/
                  proizvodstvo-samoletov-l-410-polnostyu-perenosyat
                  -iz-chehii-v-rossiyu /
            2. +3
              17 August 2017 20: 47
              L-410 Czech plane The production is Czech. The idea and all the developments are ours. Since the capacities of the small aircraft factories were loaded-transferred the production of the aircraft to the Czech Republic. A minimum of your knowledge has been invested in this machine. Except for the equipment of the cabin. Moreover, the production has already been established in Yekaterinburg. Too not bury yourself.
              1. RL
                +3
                17 August 2017 21: 29
                From the USSR there was nothing. Tell tales, but not to us.
                Let L-410 "Turbolet" was developed by the design bureau of the Let factory. General Designer-Engineer Ladislav Smrchek. And initially the engines were Canadian, and later Czech Walter M601.
                Regarding production in Russia, God help you, but only to begin production of an aircraft that has already been in operation since 1970 is, of course, an achievement! And besides, you had to visit MAKS 2017 and talk with representatives of Czech companies in order not to discuss in vain
                1. +7
                  17 August 2017 21: 35
                  L-410 was developed by Ilyushin. Under the heading "IL-17". Your attempts are worthless. The shops only made the interior. The rest, I wrote above.
                2. 0
                  17 August 2017 21: 51
                  Do not be offended. It happens
                3. +5
                  17 August 2017 22: 01
                  We have at least a Super Jet, Tu-214. And you ??? And you don’t have x. Division of labor in the EU. High-tech industries are cynically removed from you. Well, Skoda, belongs to Volkswagen, by the way, they also collect from us.
              2. +1
                17 August 2017 21: 48
                What nonsense. L-410 Turbolet is a purely Czech car
          3. 0
            17 August 2017 22: 17
            Preferential at half price, I do not argue, but I'm talking about adult prices.
        2. +1
          17 August 2017 19: 37
          Yes in the social. times. with a young specialist salary of 115 rubles, which is approximately 8,5 or 9, 5 thousand rubles in the current calculation ..
          1. mvg
            +2
            17 August 2017 19: 51
            How did you find this? By inflation? It feels like 30 thousand now.
            1. +3
              17 August 2017 21: 05
              How much did a color television cost in 1985-86. 750 - 890 rubles, and a washing machine, and a refrigerator, and jeans, and a simple plastic bag advertising Kent cigarettes, or do you think that a young man had to go to work in the design bureau in training for 4.50 and the sandals of the company fast walker for 5 rubles? And the opportunity to buy this shitty refrigerator and TV! Year !! Year !! Stood in line !! There are certainly good memories at prices - 77 kopecks cost a half liter bottle of natural dry table wine Rkatsiteli in Sevastopol and 14 kopecks processed cheese .. Romantic! And the rest is Shock and Awe !!!
        3. +1
          17 August 2017 20: 56
          The flight from Leningrad to Krasnodar on the Tu-154M cost 25 rubles. + free baggage up to 36 kg., this is 1985! The distance is about 2000 km. good
          1. +1
            18 August 2017 07: 29
            Quote: keeper03
            The flight from Leningrad to Krasnodar on the Tu-154M cost 25 rubles. + free baggage up to 36 kg., this is 1985! The distance is about 2000 km. good

            Osh - Moscow 60 rubles almost 4000 km
        4. 0
          18 August 2017 22: 06
          If with a change then yes. Tomorrow we will fly with my wife to St. Petersburg from Yekaterinburg ..... 36000 thousand round-trip ... you think it's cheap (economy class of course) request
      3. +12
        17 August 2017 18: 27
        DEPARTMENT hi
        in Soviet times, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population
        What layers are there !!! Everyone flew !!! I, without irony and sarcasm!
        1. +2
          17 August 2017 18: 33
          What layers are there !!! Everyone flew !!! I, without irony and sarcasm!


          but the circus actors didn’t like it and they all broke. Or legalized scrapping with their rallies and presence in the squares

          And the funny thing is that there are enough of those who, with the same foam at their mouths, will displace the government and dream of good and decent and sweet and sour banks and take away and share everything

          They haven’t gone far from the ruins, all those deprived and offended who will seek justice in the squares will come out from under the shkonki - they will only drive back through the blood

        2. ZVO
          0
          18 August 2017 12: 21
          Quote: Observer2014
          DEPARTMENT hi
          in Soviet times, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population
          What layers are there !!! Everyone flew !!! I, without irony and sarcasm!


          Well, don’t!
          My mother, working as a controller in the foundry at 9 GPPs, received a salary of 90 rubles.
          I never flew an airplane anywhere.
          Only by train sometimes - for it was too expensive.
      4. +7
        17 August 2017 19: 07
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        We’ve been flying civilians for a couple of years now, the price is almost like a gazelle

        wassat wassat wassat fellow 16rub? mihan ... calm down ... fool
        1. +4
          17 August 2017 19: 20
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          We’ve been flying civilians for a couple of years now, the price is almost like a gazelle

          wassat wassat wassat fellow 16rub? mihan ... calm down ... fool

          I remembered 14 rubles ..! drinks I lied about 4 rubles ... And yet it was cool at that time ..! fellow
      5. +6
        17 August 2017 20: 14
        I flew in childhood on the Tu-104 and I was even allowed into the cockpit feel
        I was 4 years old, I was very curious and terribly independent, I left my grandmother first to the flight attendants, and so on ...
      6. 0
        18 August 2017 07: 27
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        We’ve been flying civilians for a couple of years now, the price is almost like a gazelle The right thing, in the days of the USSR, aviation was accessible to almost all segments of the population, I don’t want to fly anywhere in the country ...

        Yeah .. here I tried the route from the points of Osh, Bishkek, Almaty to build a march even to Samara, Orenburg, etc. ... so almost the proposed options were through Moscow.
        Osh - Tamchi, flew a small 4-engine VAE-146, generally a song! Instead of a long car race at 15-18 hours, 45 minutes of flight.
        PS.
        True, the reliability of this aircraft is impressive, once a year "incidents" for 350 "pieces" is a bit much.
      7. +1
        18 August 2017 07: 36
        At the end of the 80s, about 90 miles flew in the RSFSR, in 2016 in Russia 89 miles.
    2. +1
      17 August 2017 21: 37
      The general market in the Russian Federation for such aircraft is in the region of 200 pieces. Of these, 10-120 pieces are used to replace the AN24 with commercial airlines and new orders. Another 50-100 pieces to the army, the Russian Guard and other government agencies. More domestic market will not pull. request
      Export prospects, in my opinion, are very doubtful, since for a long time there is about the same an 140 and for some reason I did not notice that buyers would run after the Antonovites and packs of euros popped in to buy it. belay
      The truth is that Pratt & Whitney became interested in the plane and may be a good sign. It is quite possible that they know the cliches where you can attach il114 abroad, albeit with their engines. If you push at least a hundred to the foreign market, the Ilyushin residents will clearly be of great help and help in future projects. hi
    3. +1
      17 August 2017 22: 19
      I want to hope ... Who is in the know? Who in our upper echelons is lobbying for the interests of Boeing and company? If, for example, Ulyukaev was engaged in this, then the chances of building 12 a year or more are great. If the lobbyist (s) are in power, then various and all kinds of obstacles will appear, however.
      1. +1
        18 August 2017 22: 10
        Not there Manturov and Yakovlev are lobbying with what almost openly (Surely this is not brought to the main thing?) request am
  2. +3
    17 August 2017 17: 43
    Well, fine! Good luck!
  3. +3
    17 August 2017 17: 44
    The Soviet Union left us so many drawings that Story and do not stink
    1. +9
      17 August 2017 17: 57
      The good news is that he will have domestic engines for aircraft manufactured for our country.
      UEC agreed to use the TV7-117ST-01 engine as a standard one for IL-114-300
      The Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade, the United Aircraft Corporation and the United Engine Corporation have agreed to use the increased power of the TV7-117ST-01 turboprop engine as a standard for the regional passenger aircraft Il-114-300.

      TV7-117ST (forced modification of the TV7-117CM engine developed by JSC "UEC - Klimov") is the base engine for the power plant of the promising Russian light military transport aircraft Il-112 V. The new product incorporates modern technical and constructive solutions that increase its summer specifications. Power at maximum take-off mode is 3000 hp, at high emergency mode - 3600 hp On the TV7-117ST, an AB112 propeller is installed, which has greater productivity and allows you to increase the frontal thrust of the power plant.

      The engine will also be certified in accordance with civil standards. At the same time, UEC is ready to provide the first flight of the Il-114-300 with the TV7-117CM engines already mastered in production.
      https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96736/
      In Irkutsk, a passenger plane is being developed that can land anywhere
      1. +7
        17 August 2017 18: 20
        Quote: quilted jacket
        The good news is that he will have domestic engines for aircraft manufactured for our country.

        The worst news is that even if the plane is the best in the world and flies in compressed air, prices for the bulk of the population will be unavailable, and no later than yesterday, a respected uncle used to distribute subordinates for high ticket prices ... Capitalism is not will give us satisfaction and the right to enjoy flying. In Soviet times, the An-24 flew to Novosibirsk for 40 minutes and the ticket cost twice as much as the bus. If desired, one could afford. You can compare today's salaries and ticket prices.
        It gives me joy to know that there are still talented and persistent people in Russia. good I am not encouraged by new models of technology, since they will not bring joy ... And let the planes come up in the country, which is the point, if only people with high salaries can fly them.
        1. +5
          17 August 2017 18: 45
          let the country come up with airplanes, what’s the point, if only people with high salaries can fly on them.

          What is the use of it?
          These people will fly, I will fly. In another way, only through subsidies, which means I will have to pay so that you can fly. Why do I need this?
        2. ZVO
          0
          18 August 2017 12: 34
          Quote: Esoteric
          .And let planes come up in the country, what’s the point, if only people with high salaries can fly on them.


          If you do not understand the cycle of money in nature - then I feel sorry for you, so you just do not understand the essence of life ...
          Issue 1 aircraft (which you will never fly) is:
          1. 5 thousand employees of the aircraft factory producing planes (which you will never fly) - pay from the payroll fund, personal income tax and others to the country's funds, which pay you a pension and pay salaries to state employees, etc. Where does the money come from for any urban arrangement and other government spending. A manufacturing enterprise pays income taxes. Someone pays VAT, they refund it much less.
          2. These 5 thousand workers - spend their pay in your city - directly or indirectly, partially or 100% - providing work for another 50-60 thousand people from communal services to flower sellers and taxi drivers.

          You actually live better. You just don’t understand this, well, you don’t know about this section of the economy ...
          But import aircraft - it is immediately possible to cut off the entire production / consumption chain.

          If you take into account the allied suppliers, airports with service staff - then add almost 100-200 thousand people - who live better even from one plane.
  4. +6
    17 August 2017 17: 45
    survive to 2022 :)
    1. +7
      17 August 2017 18: 06
      Quote: polev66
      survive to 2022 :)

      Do not torment your heart with future trouble
      Do not overtake the bitterness of the past
      And don't build in the sand, live today
      Or life was wasted by you
      Omar Khayyam
    2. +2
      17 August 2017 18: 34
      I agree with you. In five years, everything can turn upside down so that five billion will seem like a pipe dream!
  5. +5
    17 August 2017 17: 51
    finance and resources are not enough for this project. enough only to replenish the personal accounts of the captains of our business. Name of these captains, I will not announce.
  6. +2
    17 August 2017 18: 01
    And IL-114-100 from TAPOiCh better; Pratt-Whitney engine, Hamilton-type 7-blade propellers, developed by Ilyushin Design Bureau for Uzbekistan Airways. They’ve been flying for 12 years now.
  7. +3
    17 August 2017 18: 04
    5 years to prepare?
    Sad Aircraft builders are not very tense. They were worried that only Boeing and Airbus were buying, and how they received the order, they were not in a hurry. Or is it that “sworn friends” of the Ministry of Finance have built up a financing schedule that was impossible before?
    1. 0
      18 August 2017 08: 17
      expert pancake. How many years certification takes.
  8. +4
    17 August 2017 18: 07
    The construction of machines was organized in the 1980s on the basis of the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalova,

    They have already plundered and destroyed everything ... But factories were specially scattered throughout the country, jobs, etc. What losses are worse than in the Second World War! We have good science for the future, everything needs to be concentrated in the Urals, this is the "backbone of Russia"!
    1. +2
      17 August 2017 18: 25
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      everything needs to be concentrated in the Urals, this is the "ridge of Russia"!

      Are you talking about industry? or the capital? or offices of different LLCs and OJSC natural resources? As long as there is Moscow, everything will be concentrated there ... Sobyanin's age cannot be seen ...
      1. +2
        17 August 2017 19: 09
        Quote: Esoteric
        As long as there is Moscow, everything will be concentrated there ..

        as for money ...
        1. +2
          17 August 2017 19: 27
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: Esoteric
          As long as there is Moscow, everything will be concentrated there ..

          as for money ...

          Everything goes to Moscow, and there they are already from the "gentleman's shoulder" of subsidies, Tipo remember who you owe .. Ugh, damn it for such a policy .. The people are already running up and there is nobody to work .. Capitalism, damn it, no plan and strategies. . One day we live, one pleases the Army and Navy rearm! soldier
    2. 0
      17 August 2017 18: 33
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      They have already plundered and destroyed everything.

      Everyone was taken from there, including workers to Ulyanovsk.
    3. +9
      17 August 2017 19: 14
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      everything needs to be concentrated in the Urals, this is the "ridge of Russia"!

      You vtyuhite this guarantor. But he, the poor one, “does not know,” and the court camarilla stubbornly hides from him that 80% of the country's finances are spinning in the throne and still cannot (without a mighty rollback) overcome the Moscow Ring Road.
      And so that “bribes were smooth” they do the following: in November-December they send the amounts due to them from the budget to the regions and demand all auctions (30 days!) To be spent and billions will be mastered by the end of the year! Yes, even before the 20 day of January, m-tsa provide reporting .... Do not believe it? It's a pity!
      And so that the "money" does not fall into the industry, regional banks are nightmare revocation of licenses! And if they lend lower refinancing rates, but for a longer period (the so-called * long loans *) - then these persons become personal enemies of the best financier according to IMF-2015, Mrs. E. Nabiullina.
      PS I myself am an "unlearned bast", but very competent and knowledgeable people * of the federal level * told this.
      Somehow, however!
      1. +2
        17 August 2017 21: 14
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        PS I myself am an "unlearned bast", but very competent and knowledgeable people * of the federal level * told this.
        Somehow, however!

        I myself am one of those ... (I see the flows ...)
    4. +3
      17 August 2017 21: 22
      everything needs to be concentrated in the Urals, this is the "ridge of Russia"! Do not take off the Krasnoyarsk Territory. We have something. The Urals are not near. Do not offend the Urals. hi
  9. +2
    17 August 2017 18: 09
    Who in our country is responsible for anything? At first they were preparing so diligently for the release of the Il-114, it was going so hard, then they turned off its production in a quiet one day and now again the news needs to be invested again to launch this aircraft.
    Surely people are still sitting in high offices, wiping chairs with trousers
  10. +5
    17 August 2017 18: 25
    "The production of IL-114 will save about 5 billion dollars that would be spent on the purchase of similar equipment from our foreign competitors"
    No, you don’t have to buy anything from our foreign competitors!
    1. +4
      17 August 2017 18: 43
      Superjet costs about $ 30 million, IL-114 turboprop, with passenger capacity one and a half times less. Multiplying even 30 by 57, I get 1.7 billion - where did Slusar want to put in the remaining 3-plus billion? request
    2. +1
      17 August 2017 19: 17
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      No, you don’t have to buy anything from our foreign competitors!
      Pancake! But what about the * legalized * rollback for a deal with Mr. Partner in the amount of 10% bonus !? belay
      Yes, you do not want to let our "effective managers" around the world !?
      Well, then you are the enemy of the whole near-Kremlin party !!! laughing
  11. 0
    17 August 2017 18: 28
    It’s good when the news is good, and not from Ukraine.
  12. 0
    17 August 2017 18: 31
    The corporation's task is to produce 12 aircraft per year, it is planned to supply 57 aircraft to the domestic market instead of the outdated An model.
    Hope this is a JOKE what belay
  13. +4
    17 August 2017 18: 37
    "Trampoline Man" galloped, not to good. Again, something will go wrong ...
  14. +3
    17 August 2017 18: 48
    Quote: AwaZ
    5 rubles cost a 100km flight to AN 2. Flight: Gorky-Sochi cost 40 rubles one way. Pleasure, I will say not very cheap. No promotions and discounts .... Therefore, it’s even cheaper now that you can find a flight.

    For a student during the winter holidays, the Minvody - Rostov-on-Don flight cost 5,50. So judge the cost of flights.
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  16. +4
    17 August 2017 19: 54
    Urgently replace Embraer. Or how it is there. Always ILs were the best in the north. Canadian and Brazilian-and at -35 can not start. Your cars are needed. Like air.
    1. +5
      17 August 2017 20: 22
      Let's hope it flies.
      1. 0
        18 August 2017 07: 32
        Very nice plane. I like. The main thing is to drive effective saw cutters from him
    2. RL
      +1
      17 August 2017 20: 22
      Both Canadian and Brazilian run perfectly in any latitude with normal maintenance. And what I see in the photo, IL-114-300, so this is not for unpaved runways
      1. +4
        17 August 2017 20: 29
        Exactly for unpaved ones. It can take off and land on snow and a blurry strip. Wide tires give it this opportunity. For a regional plane this is the main thing. Not everywhere there is a concrete strip.
        1. RL
          +1
          17 August 2017 20: 40
          How many centimeters from the ground are the propeller blades? So think about what dirt, grass, rubble, snow and other evil spirits will do with landing gear, with engine nacelles and with the lower surface of the planes during take-off and landing from unpaved runways?
          1. +7
            17 August 2017 20: 53
            I’ll answer. Although I’m bent down. 1m94cm. Arranged? Do not rummage in aviation, do not meddle. You just get angry. Get into the u-tube video. "Take off from Bodaibo." There the 24th took off. The 114th engines are a little more adapted. There is a video from the salon. I went to Irkutsk.
            1. RL
              +1
              17 August 2017 21: 32
              I didn’t ask about the An-24, but about the IL-114-300
            2. RL
              +2
              17 August 2017 21: 45
              About the distance of the lower edge of the blades from the ground
        2. +3
          17 August 2017 20: 45
          Quote: VERESK
          Exactly for unpaved ones. It can take off and land on snow and a blurry strip. Wide tires give it this opportunity. For a regional plane this is the main thing. Not everywhere there is a concrete strip.

          An-24 old man flew and landed in any conditions .. And the "An-2 Maize" was generally of vertical take-off in the USSR .. hard worker!
    3. 0
      17 August 2017 20: 32
      Embraer - good aircraft, according to consumer, so to speak organoleptic sensations, I flew a lot of them. About -35 I will not say, but they start and fly in Scandinavia (for example) the only way.
      1. +1
        17 August 2017 21: 17
        people apparently do not know what temperature is overboard at that altitude where aircraft usually fly at cruising speed))
  17. 0
    17 August 2017 20: 33
    According to the president of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Slyusar, the UAC is preparing to begin production of this model in 2022I didn’t understand something, what kind of aircraft is it, such as a wide-body, which they have decided to launch only from the indicated year?
  18. +1
    17 August 2017 20: 49
    Are you laughing at us? !! This issue had to be fixed the day before yesterday! request And they were going to establish it by 2022! wassat Well mother-winder and this with 5 billion savings! am Urgent need to produce airplanes, many, good and different !!! hi
  19. 0
    17 August 2017 21: 56
    If you planted Vasilyev, the thieves of the Olympiad and the cosmodrome, you would much more be economized and would not have to save on retirees. Who now stand in line for hours to file documents for indexing 200 rubles. The government of the prince of thieves.
  20. +5
    17 August 2017 22: 38
    Il-114 was supposed to replace the Yak-40 in our squadron, one of the first in the Union in the early 90's. Retraining plans for new equipment were prepared, and the technical base was being prepared. Waited for him with such hope and impatience .... And then everything fell apart. Units still flew on the YAKs, someone retrained on other equipment. No wonder the good commander of the Yak-40 was highly valued when retraining for great equipment.
  21. +2
    17 August 2017 23: 56
    Finally, the concept and content of the word "INDEPENDENCE" in the modern world reach the authorities. Build your own, from your own materials, with your brains of scientists and engineers, with the hands of your workers - to feed your families and not others, and not to buy a second-hand store - a shame for Russia.
  22. 0
    18 August 2017 00: 29
    I think that what Ilyushushintsy invested in this machine is relevant now. Replace email. equipment, put more advanced engines, well, maybe a little more redo the wings (in fashion) laughing .
    And the rest, the movement in civil aviation is on the line of replacing materials, and not a change in aerodynamic forms ....
  23. 0
    18 August 2017 03: 00
    Quote: jonht
    I think that what Ilyushushintsy invested in this machine is relevant now. Replace email. equipment, put more advanced engines, well, maybe a little more redo the wings (in fashion) laughing .
    And the rest, the movement in civil aviation is on the line of replacing materials, and not a change in aerodynamic forms ....

    What are you doing? The state has invested, and the cookies will go past the people. Something the superjet didn’t do very well for flights. And God forbid it. Airlines, it’s easier to take leasing through a rollback system. Until there is a state-owned airline company with real prices, nothing will happen. And this silt, dust in the eyes of all Russia. ps for domestic traffic, superjets are bought in the most sloppy configuration
  24. 0
    18 August 2017 05: 00
    Of course, it is high time to become independent in this industry, but how is construction progressing on the same topic in the Sverdlovsk Region a workshop for the production of 19-seater L-410 aircraft? There, after all, not only can they be made. All the same, they began to move - a bow to sanctions.
  25. 0
    18 August 2017 07: 05
    With the current economic situation among the population, I don’t think these planes take root much. At the moment, from my city, the regional center - whatever one may say, 6-10 local planes fly to neighboring regional centers, I don’t even know which production, probably Bombardier. They carry only business trips, because prices are prohibitive. Yes, and they fly half empty. In addition, they say that they were either closed or closed. And the train to Nizhny costs 700 rubles and takes about six hours, given that it takes about 3 hours to complete all the movements with the plane (it doesn’t know the price), it’s unlikely that anyone will just fly. Etc...

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