Proton-M with a military vehicle launched from Baikonur

The press service of the country's main defense department reports that the Proton-M launch vehicle with a military spacecraft has been launched from the Baikonur cosmodrome. The overall leadership of the launch of the launch vehicle was reportedly carried out by the Commander of the Space Forces - Colonel-General Alexander Golovko, deputy head of the VKS. He arrived at Baikonur the day before.

From the information management and communication material of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (quote RIA News):

All prelaunch operations and the launch of the Proton-M launch vehicle were carried out in the normal mode. The ground-based automated control complex monitored the launch and flight of the launch vehicle.

Today, cosmonauts Sergei Ryazansky and Fyodor Yurchikhin are scheduled to enter outer space from the board of the International Space Station. The astronauts will carry out the installation of scientific equipment, tests for microbial contamination of the external surface of the modules and the launch of mini-satellites. The program includes testing a new Orlan-MKS spacesuit equipped with an automatic character thermal control system. According to the plan, our cosmonauts will spend 6 hours in open space.

Comments

[Logall]

We need to launch the Sword of Damocles, let it hover over Washington! If they begin to breach, the sword is like ...

[maxim947]

We wish you good luck and more launches. One or two launches a year is no good, until recently there were 8-10 launches annually. Elon Musk turned out to be not such a star-thrower ... Although it was not without good government support there, but the fact is on the face.

[voyaka uh]

The mask is not subsidized by either NASA or the government. Only private investors.
However, it captured 60% of the commercial launch market.
(including launches and signed contracts),
displacing both Russia and France, and American competitors Boeing-Lockheed.
An example of how to work.

[Lycan]

Space is a strategic industry. "Himself" he could not have captured such techno-sector, even with private investment. If they let a person into the strategic. industry, then this is a person - from structures, simply entrepreneurially savvy and supplied with power with preferences, priorities, connections and all-round specialists. No need for unnecessary illusions.

[voyaka uh]

Computer science is as strategic a sector as space. Even more.
However, Google (Seryozha Brin from Moscow ) he was captured by himself, completely, without any state injections and political connections. And turned into a world giant.
The history of the United States is full of such examples when an energetic private trader breaks through
to a strategic market and sometimes even becomes a monopolist.
I understand, for a Russian, where everything is tied to a powerful and omnipotent state, this is not
realize. Do not believe it. But nonetheless.

[Lycan]

Yeah, Seryozha Brin, such an energetic guy came and organized everything for himself
Kindergarten, chesslovo. Come on. We live not the first day. Large technological projects with a wide range of problems and prospects no one will let you realize it without supervision from the authorities. Either they will roll over to the courts, or you will (officially or not, another matter) plow for the current government. And the special agencies will help you with the right decision.
Here's a proof for you: http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/4382337
The product of Zhenya Kaspersky could not be opened, and the tools of the CIA pressure were introduced. I guess it looks like it. In the same way, they "bent" both Brin and any other "energetic inventor / manager / specialist". Take off your rose-colored glasses, dear without control it is possible to do something only in the countries of the 3rd world. And then many niches there are already occupied, or rather sown ... with long-proven and potent ... yielding crops

[voyaka uh]

Yeah, Seryozha Brin, such an energetic guy came and organized everything for himself laughing "///

This is exactly what happened. I say and repeat that people from Russia cannot even imagine such a thing, that several talented energetic guys can organize a start-up themselves, find private investments and become one of the largest firms in the world in 20 years.
Therefore, in California and knocked down from all over the world, those who have a head on their shoulders and the energy of entrepreneurship.
Like Elon Musk or Sergey Brin .

[models]

Quote: voyaka uh

I say and repeat that people from Russia cannot even imagine such a thing.

I ask you not to speak for all the people from Russia.

[Lycan]

Well, okay .. so be it. Why refuse a person to believe in a miracle?
And tomorrow, I fly on the first flight to sunny California.
"We are ours, we will build a new world, -
Who was nothing, he will become everything ... "(c)

[models]

If people are allowed into any industry only "from the structures" - the industry is waiting for a flood and ruin, because instead of those who work better, good friends of respected people will work and who will roll back more. Actually Russian cosmonautics.

[avt]

Quote: voyaka uh

However, it captured 60% of the commercial launch market.

Well, walking in both hands. By the way! So if you are an expert on the topic - What is the share of USA in commercial launches?

Quote: voyaka uh

Nevertheless, Google (Seryozha Brin from Moscow) took it over on its own, completely, without any state injections and political connections. And turned into a world giant.

Which "captured" the entot Internet created for MO USA claims

In total, according to the report, in 2016, 85 orbital launches were carried out in the world, which were carried out by eight countries. Of the total, 22 launches last year were carried out by the United States and China, 17 by Russia, 11 by Europe, seven by India, four by Japan, and one each by Israel and North Korea. Of the total number of launches, 48 ​​were civilian, 16 were military, and 21 were commercial.

And how and who will actually distribute commercial launches? Oh Wei! ,, competes with Kugs? Otherwise we do

Quote: voyaka uh

Do not believe it.

Well, not for you, but

Quote: maxim947

We wish you good luck and more launches. One or two launches a year is no good, until recently there were 8-10 launches annually.

It's like how? Actually, did you try to get up from head to feet? Well, like to think about the fact that the launch is not an end in itself, but a specific delivery to a given orbit of a completely necessary object for its own space program. But it is also possible, as it happened in the 90s - to throw into orbit not even dual-use communication and telecommunications satellites, but directly launch for the USA Ministry of Defense from the same Baikonur by our carriers in awe of

Quote: voyaka uh

An example of how to work.

cab driver.

[maxim947]

You are just a cap, this time - and put everything on its feet. Understand the topic, make an analysis on the number of proton launches with reference to customers, and if you can stand it, draw a conclusion - why this happened. Startups are the most important indicator for the industry, and where does the end in itself have to do with it? Here are the questions of reliability, prices and characteristics, for some of which they began to lose ...

[opus]

Quote: voyaka uh

The mask is not subsidized by either NASA or the government. Only private investors.

Shaw?

Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, in the amount received about $ 4,9 billion of support from the state, according to data collected by the newspaper The Times.

if anything, then confirm Jerry Hirsch

Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. SpaceXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDVD / The figure underscores a public-private financing model underpinning a long-shot start-ups.

his mail:[email protected]

«He definitely goes where government finances aresays Dan Dolev, an analyst at Jefferies Equity Research. “This is a great strategy, but one day the government will stop financing you.”

The estimated amount ($ 4,9 billion) includes grants, tax breaks, factory construction assistance, forgiven loans, and air pollution quotas that Tesla sells. They also include tax deductions and refunds to customers of solar panels and electric vehicles.

SpaceX is not a public company, so its performance has not been disclosed. Musk and his investors enjoy the pleasant side of government subsidies, and taxpayers carry the whole burden.

This is done like this:
State of New York will spend $ 750 million. for the construction of a solar panel factory for SolarCity in Buffalo. California company San Mateo will take leasing them for $ 1 per year. And taxes on this production won't pay a whole decade - despite the fact that the amount of taxes could be $ 260 million.
or as

SpaceX received about $ 20 million in economic development grants from the State of Texas, on which it builds its own spaceport there, and won tenders for contracts from NASA and US Air Force for a total of $ 5,5 billion.

Quote: voyaka uh

The mask is not subsidized by either NASA or the government. Only private investors.

This statement is bullshit.
«Government support is the main part of all three companies (Ilona Mask), without them they simply would not exist”Says Mark Spiegel, hedge fund manager at Stanphyl Capital Partners, who is playing a downgrade on Tesla.

Quote: voyaka uh

An example of how to work.

Musk is so skilled at getting government subsidies that states compete with each other for the right to give him money. “After the rise of his star, each state wants to have its own piece of Elon Mask.” / Ashley Vance, author of the biography Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX and the Quest for an Amazing Future

[voyaka uh]

"The estimated amount ($ 4,9 billion) includes grants, tax breaks,
assistance in building factories, forgiven loans and quotas for air pollution,
that Tesla sells. They also include tax deductions and refunds.
buyers of solar panels and electric vehicles "////

This is NOT a government investment. Any firm uses federal laws and laws
state in helping businesses, tax breaks, etc.
If you open a start-up in Silicon Valley, consulting firms and lawyers
offices will tell you in detail about everything.

[opus]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is NOT a state investment.

This state investment is a typical example.
You simply do not know what state investments are.

1. Government investments are investments in building up, as well as reproduction of fixed assets of enterprises and organizations of the country. State investments are formed at the expense of budgets of various levels, from the federal budget to regional, local, etc., as well as at the expense of state extra-budgetary funds.
...
2. Types and forms of public investment

Investments of this kind can be provided in several forms or forms, namely:

preferential investment loans
tax breaks and benefits
direct investment from the budget
investments from state-owned companies and institutions of various forms and levels (ministries, extra-budgetary funds, etc.)

The government also provides grants and tax deductions to cover the 30% of the cost of installing the panels. SolarCity reported on receiving direct grants worth $ 497,5 million. But this is not the full amount of support.

[models]

Quote: opus

He definitely goes where government finances are

lol, in the modern United States, public finance is almost everywhere. Manufacturers of gasoline cars and the oil industry also receive subsidies https://electrek.co/2016/11/25/tesla-subsidies-bi
g-three-oil-industry /

[models]

The fact that maskophobes know how in the comments has long been known. Essentially have something to say?

[opus]

Quote: modeller

The fact that maskofoby

Mudeler ... where did you see the maskofoba?
I shol?



/
https://topwar.ru/95589-v-zaschitu-makaronnogo-mo
nstra-ilona-maska-zamolvim-slovo-ili-razbor-lyapo
v-pisatelya.html

or

Quote: modeller

Essentially there is something to say?

I said little in essence?
and this is essentially?

Quote: modeller

Manufacturers of petrol cars and the oil industry also receive subsidies

or here (here) (about the niggas "specifics")?

[models]

Quote: opus

Mudeler ... where did you see the maskofoba?
I shol?

You are sometimes amazingly clever.

Quote: opus

or

Thank you, I remember very well how you were talking nonsense about the 6 km / s cutoff of the first stage of the ITS, that the interplanetary spacecraft desperately needs rotary SBs and much more.

Quote: opus

and this is essentially?
Quote: modeller
Manufacturers of petrol cars and the oil industry also receive subsidies

For some reason you wrote "Musk definitely goes where there is public finance." I objected that in the modern United States, government funding is rather the norm. What did you answer at the beginning with a bunch of crap, and now also with a “moeller”. Well, in general, the intellectual level of maskophobia as it is.

[models]

Quote: opus

or as
SpaceX received about $ 20 million in economic development grants from the State of Texas, on which it builds its own spaceport there, and won tenders for contracts from NASA and US Air Force for a total of $ 5,5 billion.
Quote: voyaka uh
The mask is not subsidized by either NASA or the government. Only private investors.
This statement is bullshit.

Indeed, NASA SpaceX does not subsidize. And the US government doesn't subsidize - it subsidizes the Texas government for as much as $ 20 million. Despite the fact that private Google and Fidelity have invested a billion. Tesla and SolarCity subsidies are exactly Tesla and SolarCity subsidies. It is simply impossible to take and transfer them to SpaceX Mask accounts.

[Inhabitant of Mordor]

NASA does not subsidize this "genius". It was just that by order of magnitude they gave him the thuja heap of those docks and forced him to work the same heap of specialists. And you will not refuse a baby if its shareholders have a wagon of generals and admirals from the Pentagon and the CIA.

[avt]

Quote: maxim947

Elon Musk turned out to be not such a star-thrower ... Although it was not without good government support there, but the fact is on the face.

Well, in the days of EBN-and the All-Drunken we had our own Musk - BAB. But for the sake of justice, only Aeroflot got privatized. Someone had enough intelligence, or maybe greed and cunning to prevent it from space. Rather, BAB himself hawala what lies closer and with which you don't need to bother much. And the rest is all the same - the same milking of the budget through pieces of paper - shares by a "private" entrepreneur, only instead of "Tesla" ABBA immediately gutted pockets for a Zhiguli. And then Prokhorov with, God forgive me, the Yo-th mobile. I suppose that Musk in terms of the amount of funds used is quite comparable to the Superbudget of Poghosyan's GSS.

Quote: voyaka uh

I understand, for a Russian, where everything is tied to a powerful and omnipotent state, this is not
realize. Do not believe it. But nonetheless.

There is some kind of hardware to be provided, and only in the background ... then they will somehow write it off for losses like a no less advanced exchange of super duper technologies

Quote: voyaka uh

Computer science is as strategic a sector as space. Even more.

NASDAG Which I piled at least

Quote: voyaka uh

completely, without any state injections and political connections. And turned into a global giant.
The history of the United States is full of such examples when an energetic private trader breaks through
to a strategic market and sometimes even becomes a monopolist.

a certain Medoff. Our homegrown counterpart of these

Quote: voyaka uh

Computer science is as strategic a sector as space. Even more.

Mavrodi. Actually, these “informatics” are now crushing Kozyr, who has hinted at real and not virtual production. But I agree with this - our scammers, unlike Mask, are generally throwing a short one, as Mask is for iron to set up a scam "Why not? Our loot can be blamed for LondOn, Israel and the USA. And this, if accomplices surrender, is immediately the fate of Medoff.

[voyaka uh]

You fully fit into the scheme of the usual Russian
a statesman who expects "miracles", "wise decisions" from the Kremlin,
and does not totally believe in any other variants of development. Nothing new.

[opus]

Quote: voyaka uh

You fully fit into the scheme of the usual Russian
statist who expects "miracles" from the Kremlin

?
Oh, bullshit.
1. From 2012:
The package of amendments to the Tax Code, providing for the phased abolition of property tax exemptions for natural monopolies ...

Since 2013, monopolies will have to pay tax at the rate of 0,4%, and then every year it will increase by 0,3 pp. to standard 2,2% in 2019

Railways did not pay property tax. More precisely, practically did not pay.

11 billion rubles is, of course, palpable, from the operating profit of RZD 2015, it is almost 15 percent, and if you take the net profit of the company in 2016, then it is about 4 billion - 3,7 and 3,8 - rubles,

The auditors only state that the property tax benefits in 2011 are cost regional budgets in 156,3 billion rubles. and 34 billion rubles., which the regions will receive from increasing the burden on monopolies in 2013, do not compensate for these losses. From the calculations of the Ministry of Finance submitted to the State Duma, it follows that in 2013 the regions will not receive enough taxes from the new movable property 24,8 billion rubles, while the monopolies will give them 35,6 billion, in 2019, the difference will increase to 173,6 billion against 387 billion.

2. According to the RF Tax Code, tax rates are reduced by 50% if the company employs 50% or more people with disabilities and (or) 70% or more pensioners.
3. Skolkovo

According to the RF Tax Code, tax rates are reduced by 50% if the company employs 50% or more disabled people and (or) 70% or more senior citizens.

4. The VAT provides for benefits in the implementation of scientific activities - for example, when performing research and development, tax payment is not required (subn. 16-16.1 p. 3 article 149 of the RF Tax Code).

[Lycan]

Okay, do not strain. A person wants to believe in fairy tales - miracles are interesting there.
Leave room for his imagination. For example, I believe in the "degeneration and exaltation of the Russian automobile industry" and the total rejection of alcohol. Well, you must admit that it is interesting to talk with a person who has far-reaching dreams and specific expectations.

[krops777]

Proton-M with a military vehicle launched from Baikonur

There was no news about Vostochny for a long time.

[Hoc vince]

Yes, just yesterday (16.08.) Dmitry Rogozin did not rule out attracting foreign contractors to Vostochny.

[Reptiloid]

Russian cosmonautics is still improving!

[Hoc vince]

Nobody argues.

[krops777]

Yes, just yesterday (16.08.) Dmitry Rogozin did not rule out attracting foreign contractors to Vostochny.

Yes, I mean when they will have launches.

[Hoc vince]

"We have a schedule, we proceed from the assumption that the dates will not be shifted - November 28 and December 22" D. Rogozin

[krops777]

"We have a schedule, we proceed from the assumption that the dates will not be shifted - November 28 and December 22" D. Rogozin

Thanks for the info, otherwise I was really worried.

[Old26]

Quote: krops777

Yes, just yesterday (16.08.) Dmitry Rogozin did not rule out attracting foreign contractors to Vostochny.

Yes, I mean when they will have launches.

At the end of the year. And what to start from the East now. All the same "Unions"

Quote: maxim947

We wish you good luck and more launches. One or two launches a year is no good, until recently there were 8-10 launches annually. Elon Musk turned out to be not such a star-thrower ... Although it was not without good government support there, but the fact is on the face.

It doesn't matter whether with support or not, but he fulfills his promise. And how much about him here, they didn’t write to VO.
And this year he plans (and will carry out) the number of launches comparable to the number of launches in Russia. And that's not counting the rest of the line of American carriers.

[tanit]

Quote: Old26

And this year he plans (and will carry out) the number of launches comparable to the number of launches in Russia. And that's not counting the rest of the line of American carriers.

And how many of them is he planning to fly this year?
In the meantime, the United States is 15 ahead (11 of them are falcons). The Russian Federation has 11 so far (of which 2 are with Kuru).

[Felix99]

The program includes testing the new Orlan-ISS spacesuit equipped with an automatic temperature control system

what is "Automatic Character"? I'm lost in conjecture - is it an artificial intelligence system or "Fuck automatic"

[Old26]

Quote: tanit

Quote: Old26

And this year he plans (and will carry out) the number of launches comparable to the number of launches in Russia. And that's not counting the rest of the line of American carriers.

And how many of them is he planning to fly this year?
In the meantime, the United States is 15 ahead (11 of them are falcons). The Russian Federation has 11 so far (of which 2 are with Kuru).

In total, we plan 25 a year, and Musk only "Falcons" as much. Plus a dozen different others. Well, manned. We will count by the total number, or exclusively by the manned. To the whole world, how many Russians fired manned. Statistics show that we plan 25, and they are 35 .. And what will happen in 2018 - wait and see what statistics will be for three or four types of their manned ships, against our Union

[Ugolek]

Yeah, Seryozha Brin, such an energetic guy came and organized everything for himself laughing "

It was so

Well, Facebook is not so independent, they bent over in a democratic country ...
Or the Jews in American democracy as religiously believe as the Torah ???