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India plans to purchase FGFA fighter jets from Russia

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India made another step in the purchase of FGFA 5 fighter jets - the internal commission of the Indian Ministry of Defense gave a recommendation to purchase a batch of T-50 / FGFA jets through their joint production with Russia, reports bmpd with reference to the resource psk.blog.24heures.ch.


India plans to purchase FGFA fighter jets from Russia


In a commission led by a marshal aviation retired by Simhakutti Wartahman, conducted an analysis of the performance characteristics of the aircraft and gave a positive conclusion regarding its purchase. The Indian government plans to allocate $ 5 billion for the joint development of the fighter.

According to a resource referring to a military source, India "is preparing to place a firm order for X-NUMX T-108 aircraft."

However, the Russian and Indian sides have not yet agreed on the division of work on the project and the transfer of technology. The source noted that the Indian military is currently actively working on this issue with representatives of the Russian Federation.
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 16 August 2017 12: 26
    +13
    small by small we move to the finish line. the construction and sale of a younger brother will seriously facilitate the further production of pak fa, I mean the number for the vks.
    1. Doublet
      Doublet 16 August 2017 12: 34
      +6
      108 aircraft is good, this is not China, which is purchasing on 2-4.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 16 August 2017 12: 38
        +16
        yes, the number is impressive, if only the Indians again did not start snake dances.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 16 August 2017 13: 30
          +8
          Quote: newbie
          yes, the number is impressive, if only the Indians again did not start snake dances.

          However, the Russian and Indian sides have not yet agreed on the division of work on the project and technology transfer.

          Here is the answer to your thesis ... we don’t want to transfer secret technologies, and the Indians are very insistent on this. hi
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 16 August 2017 13: 54
            +2
            not scary. this retired marshal is an influential type. since recommended, so be it. As for technology, well then? something needs to be gifted, something hidden, this process is for specialists.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 16 August 2017 14: 17
              +9
              Quote: newbie
              As for technology, well then?

              Secret technology cannot be given ... but secondary and well-developed, why not?
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 16 August 2017 14: 52
                +3
                I’m talking about this.
              2. ZVO
                ZVO 16 August 2017 15: 56
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: newbie
                As for technology, well then?

                Secret technology cannot be given ... but secondary and well-developed, why not?


                They paid almost $ 10 billion just for access to the latest technology. This is just for development.
                Plus, they still spend at least 150 million. dollars for the manufacture of each aircraft ...
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 16 August 2017 16: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: ZVO
                  Plus, they still spend at least 150 million. dollars for the manufacture of each aircraft ...

                  Do not run ahead of the engine. So far, even we do not have a serial SU-57. And the development of “sparky” will take another 5 years ...
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      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 16 August 2017 12: 50
        +5
        108 aircraft is good, this is not China, which is purchasing on 2-4.

        Well, not 2-4, but 24. On 2-4 we ship it according to the schedule.
      3. Alex_59
        Alex_59 16 August 2017 14: 42
        +4
        Quote: Doublet
        108 aircraft is good, this is not China, which is purchasing on 2-4.

        In fact, China bought 75 Su-27 assembled in the Russian Federation and a license to build 200 Su-27 on its territory, the latter being assembled partly from Russian components.
        Piecewise they were purchased in 90. Then they were pleased even with the order for 10 aircraft.
      4. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 16 August 2017 16: 09
        +1
        If China again with its 2-4 fit, send them with this to hell.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 16 August 2017 20: 44
          +1
          China FGFA will never be able to take - Indians will not give good. You probably had in mind the Su-57, which Moscow imposed a ban on selling abroad (platform.Armata and other modern designs as well). If I am not mistaken, such information passed.
          108: 36 (3 esc. To 12 sources) = 3 regiment of strands. Good order. I do not think that the project will continue to be pulled. Because no one will give them the opportunity for such cooperation. And they want to gain an advantage over the Chinese in the air - do not go to a fortuneteller. hi
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 12: 36
      +9
      Hi Garik! hi I foresee that the Indians, according to the old tradition, will again begin to wag stern, so that there will still be a vinaigrette!
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 16 August 2017 12: 44
        +7
        I greet you, Pash! in their head the devil himself will break his leg, the porridge is still that. but I hope that the successes of the Sino-Pakistani friendship gave a good kick to the Indians in the direction of our five, export of course.
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 August 2017 12: 45
          +8
          Although it’s hard with them, they have money.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 16 August 2017 12: 48
            +8
            their money brought to light many of our projects. but, damn it, really, a heavy narol.
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 12: 49
          +7
          Yes, in India, mattress interests should not be discounted. The arms market there is a tidbit for anyone. And not only money matters, geopolitical interests are even more important. And mattresses, as you know, are extremely non-selective in the ways of achieving their goals. yes
          1. cniza
            cniza 16 August 2017 12: 55
            +5
            Yes, the market is very interesting, and working with them is so difficult, but we will compete with the United States.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 12: 58
              +5
              Clear business - we will! Such a cash (albeit moody) cow is needed! lol
              1. cniza
                cniza 16 August 2017 13: 03
                +7
                Here - here the herd is not very large, but there are more than enough milkmaids.
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 06
                  +7
                  And everyone is actively working with their elbows in the pursuit of udders. lol
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 16 August 2017 13: 11
                    +6
                    Not only elbows, but also try to put the steps.
              2. DMB_95
                DMB_95 16 August 2017 13: 55
                +1
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                So cashy (albeit moody) cow need yourself! lol

                A sacred animal cannot be moody! It is ... peculiar.
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 14: 12
                  +4
                  From changing the word horseradish does not become sweeter than wasabi. wink
          2. newcomer
            newcomer 16 August 2017 12: 58
            +5
            one news went almost unnoticed. the Yankees doubt the expediency of transferring critical technologies under the maid india of f16 airplanes, or rather the block 60 proposed to the Hindus of modifications (it seems, if I'm not mistaken). this, together with the ponds of friendship between China and Pakistan, has helped the “Cossacks” to issue this verdict.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 01
              +6
              Any mistake mattresses need to use for their own benefit in order to oust them from the Indian market and this region.
              1. cniza
                cniza 16 August 2017 13: 04
                +4
                The USA does not like it, they are nervous, but they cannot change anything ...
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 08
                  +6
                  Send them a dry cargo ship with medicines that have a pronounced and persistent sedative effect (phenobarbital, for example) - let them calm down. wassat
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 16 August 2017 13: 11
                    +4
                    They also need to be treated, let’s not let them take care of themselves ...
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 13
                      +4
                      Vit, well, it already depends on the harvest in Afghanistan. lol
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 16 August 2017 13: 17
                        +4
                        So they are there "agronomists", all in their hands.
              2. newcomer
                newcomer 16 August 2017 13: 05
                +5
                Pasha, you're right. but the main thing is not to creep, but vigorously beat to the point, or else Vel, our Ivan loves, pulling time (to say the least).
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 10
                  +4
                  There is no time to yawn - in addition to mattresses and gay men with Scandinavians, they are not averse to falling into such a feeder.
                  1. newcomer
                    newcomer 16 August 2017 13: 16
                    +5
                    Yes, all the more so since the future of our Pak depends in many respects on the commercial success of the FGF, the Indians know this.
                2. cniza
                  cniza 16 August 2017 13: 13
                  +4
                  "Laziness is the engine of progress," but you need to move differently around the corner.
                  1. newcomer
                    newcomer 16 August 2017 13: 20
                    +6
                    you need to quickly do business and count income. and the Indians are still “experts”: “the T90 is to blame for the biathlon failure”, it’s time to cetate the classics from Lavrov.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 16 August 2017 13: 22
                      +2
                      This is their crown, blame on the technique or marriage.
                      1. newcomer
                        newcomer 16 August 2017 14: 00
                        +4
                        The highlight is that T90 biathletes from the series "Maid India".
      2. avt
        avt 16 August 2017 13: 27
        +1
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I foresee that the Indians, according to the old tradition, will again begin to wag stern,

        wassat bully And at least go to the googel ?? Yes, the Indians have long invested in the PAK FA theme, as well as in IL-214, long ago. And the fact that they will sniff and turn their nose and push the key technologies to the maximum in their localization of production, well, no one argues.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 16 August 2017 13: 44
          +2
          Well, where in my comment did you find at least a word that contradicts your words? Do you like to engage in letters and “catch” people? wink
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 16 August 2017 12: 26
    +3
    Indian Defense Ministry internal commission recommends acquisition of a batch of T-50 / FGFA aircraft

    Nice advertisement for our technology
  3. Ziksura
    Ziksura 16 August 2017 12: 27
    +1
    Not bad. One annoying: if only India did not pass us in the number of 5-rock. Although, to be honest, I am optimistic in this matter. It happened...
    1. Doublet
      Doublet 16 August 2017 12: 36
      +1
      You just noticed that it would be wrong if India has several times more 5-rock.
      1. Damir
        Damir 16 August 2017 13: 09
        +3
        Well, in India, the T-90 is more than ours in the army and nothing ... we can’t fight with them ....
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 16 August 2017 12: 36
      +2
      India is far from us and will not fight against us (at least in the near future the probability of this is close to zero), even if they have more such aircraft than we have nothing to worry about ... But the purchase of our new weapons by China much more dangerous ...
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 16 August 2017 14: 36
      0
      will bypass - the Su-30s of the Indians are 235, but we can’t get 100, we already wrote about the T-90 hi
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 August 2017 12: 39
    +2
    “Preparing to place a firm order for 108 T-50 aircraft”

    This is certainly good. But, something tells me - again bidding for the price will begin and the petty move tested by India more than once with "poor-quality equipment" will go into the course.
  5. irazum
    irazum 16 August 2017 12: 39
    0
    Technology will beg, a hundred pounds! With the French “Rafals” is not a ride, we are the only ones left.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 August 2017 12: 41
    +5
    How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 16 August 2017 12: 50
      +2
      no one else will sell them, or anything like that, that's what they post ...
    2. pavelty
      pavelty 16 August 2017 12: 52
      +1
      And what is it not? I have seen)
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 16 August 2017 12: 56
        +3
        I saw it too. In the sky. Probably imagined. The warrior will not lie.
        1. Walanin
          Walanin 16 August 2017 14: 56
          0
          FGFA in the sky? This is where it was?
    3. Doublet
      Doublet 16 August 2017 12: 54
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?

      but how does the whole democratic world invest in American planes that are still not brought to mind?
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 16 August 2017 13: 22
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?

      And what did the Penguin create in a different way?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 August 2017 13: 37
        +4
        When the flying prototypes of the F-35 appeared,
        then went and orders. And before that there were "intentions" to acquire.
        If we consider the prototypes of T-50 prototypes and FGFA too ...
        then there is something to talk about.
        The question is how much the glider will differ.
        I am with both hands for a joint Russian-Indian project good .
        Otherwise, the T-50 will get stuck in "museum" quantities from underfunding.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 16 August 2017 14: 00
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          When the flying prototypes of the F-35 appeared,
          then went and orders. And before that there were "intentions" to acquire.

          Nothing like this. Initially, the F-35 project started according to the same scheme as the FGFA. US develop - customers pay, then localization. Only more participants
        2. opus
          opus 16 August 2017 15: 03
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          When the flying prototypes of the F-35 appeared,

          Quote: voyaka uh
          If we consider the prototypes of T-50 prototypes and FGFA too ...

          same
          13 April 2012 of the year made the first flight of the aircraft F-35A with serial number BK-1 - the first car for the UK and the first for foreign partners in general

          F-35I appeared hzk (I will not decrypt, so I don’t get out of the bans), but Israel signed a contract at 2010, and shipped it to 2016:

          with serial number AS-1 (Israeli side number "901").

          F-35I is NOT ALL F-35 - AF-6, absolutely
    5. avt
      avt 16 August 2017 14: 34
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?

      wassat Azochenway! How is it! Go to the googel and ask him for Panavia 2000 bully
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 August 2017 14: 43
        +1
        I agree with you what is running. Both the T-50 project and the FGFA project
        urgently need to force, otherwise they will become obsolete before
        mass production.
        1. avt
          avt 16 August 2017 15: 01
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I agree with you what is running.

          wassat Oh wow! What was that? So for
          Quote: voyaka uh
          How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?

          Already not relevant? bully Well and goodies.
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      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 August 2017 15: 05
        0
        "how so Israel could go to bed" ///

        You shoot at emptiness. smile
        The first prototype of the F-35 - X-35 took off in 2000 year.
        By 2010, it was already clear to those who understood that the plane had turned out.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 16 August 2017 16: 18
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          You shoot the void
          The first prototype of the F-35 - X-35 took off in 2000 year.
          By 2010, it was already clear to those who understood that the plane had turned out.

          About the financing of the Penguin in our army magazines has been written since 89. The union was still alive. The fact that the Jews realized that the pepelats will work, began to sing in 2014
          1. MadCat
            MadCat 17 August 2017 04: 24
            +1
            Well, yes, the song is about the main thing, f35 pingivinorazpil, but the T50 of 100500 million is better, by what parameters it is better, but the truth is not clear but already. fellow Kindergarten.
        2. opus
          opus 16 August 2017 22: 48
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          You shoot at emptiness.

          come on?
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The first prototype of the F-35 - X-35 took off in 2000 year.
          By 2010, it was already clear to those who understood that the plane had turned out.

          ?
          T-50 The first flight of the plane made 29 January 2010 year
          29 January 2010, the first flight of the Su-57 for the first time took to the air [2], making a flight lasting about 45 minutes. The car was piloted by honored test pilot Hero of Russia Sergey Bogdan.

          14 March 2011 during the flight tests of the Su-57 for the first time broke the sound barrier, by this time 40 test flights were made, and the program of testing prototypes at supersonic speeds began.

          24 July 2012 of the year began testing of the third flight sample (T-50-3, w / o 53) with radar H036, with a radar installed on it with an active phased antenna array. As of October 28, 2013 has completed more than 450 flights [16].
          September 18 The 2015 of the year has begun the final test phase.

          and even I am a deer full (psevdoraketchik, not a pilot, I realized THIS PLANE)
          + Sergey Bogdan HAVE NEVER FLIGHT ON THE HUMAN (AND DON'T PRAISE THE PECU)

          And forgive me (even from an aesthetic point of view) this beauty


          NOT IN WHAT COMPARISON DOES NOT GO WITH

          even thin circle is not necessary to finish
    7. aliis-M
      aliis-M 16 August 2017 16: 12
      +1
      So with the Su-30MKI it was already, and everyone was satisfied wink
    8. Kurare
      Kurare 16 August 2017 18: 24
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How can I place an order for a non-existent aircraft?

      Well, about the same as on the JSF F-35 at the time. There is nothing unusual here.
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 August 2017 12: 47
    +1
    India "getting ready
    It would probably sound better if India placed an order. And what is the conversation about?
  8. Altona
    Altona 16 August 2017 12: 52
    +2
    Quote: newbie
    yes, the number is impressive, if only the Indians again did not start snake dances.

    ---------------------------------
    Well, the classic "Jimmy, Jimmy, acha-acha" cannot be taken away from the Indians. Then, when the time for signing a "firm order for 100 pieces" arrives, the Indians suddenly announce a tender and, relatively speaking, include the American F-35. The Americans will get involved in the process and bring down the deal, although they are supposedly selling something.
    1. irazum
      irazum 16 August 2017 12: 58
      +1
      By the way, it’s quite possible! It just seems to me that the Americans will not transfer any technology to them. And the Indians are interested in them!
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 16 August 2017 13: 26
      0
      Do not prompt.
      Although, ours have already learned not to step on the same rake twice.
    3. newcomer
      newcomer 16 August 2017 14: 57
      +2
      will fail. Too much Indians invested in FGF.
  9. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter 16 August 2017 12: 57
    0
    The T-50 was originally created as an adversary of the state birds, but we will also see a confrontation with Chinese cars on the campaign. It will be interesting wink
  10. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 16 August 2017 13: 04
    +2
    This is nonsense - the joint design and production of the latest technology, especially since India rushes from the USA to Russia, ambitions like the Poles (or more), and the poor themselves. And if so, then the United States will outbid Indian Maharajas at the right time. You can’t get in touch with the Holodrans - they will sell.
    1. Walanin
      Walanin 16 August 2017 15: 02
      0
      Is the 7th world economy poor?
      1. MadCat
        MadCat 17 August 2017 04: 26
        +2
        Quote: Walanin
        Is the 7th world economy poor?

        you’re trying to denigrate all the details, he said the beggar means the beggar tongue
      2. bratchanin3
        bratchanin3 17 August 2017 13: 17
        +1
        Well, you are my friend. 7th economy, this is due to the large population. The anthill is large, because it is a lot of ant and work from morning to night. It should be judged by per capita income (per person). And in India, you know how much, you are our economist !?
        1. Walanin
          Walanin 17 August 2017 14: 30
          0
          How is per capita income related to the military budget, are you our economist?
          1. bratchanin3
            bratchanin3 18 August 2017 10: 00
            +1
            Is this a lecture on the military budget and population? Then it’s worthwhile to compare the UAE and India on your own for the security of Aboriginal people and military budgets, and it’s a long time.
  11. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 16 August 2017 13: 16
    0
    These fighters cannot be sold! Like the T14 with 400 and other samples of modern weapons. This is the country's security and parity on the opponents, and there is not a guarantee that India is a different and ally. And as we all know, we don’t have them!
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 17 August 2017 04: 31
      +1
      with such an approach and around the world it’s not long to go, is there any sense in rushing with them like a written bag? They don’t give it for free ... modern yes, but certainly not having an analogue in the world.
  12. Vittt
    Vittt 16 August 2017 15: 32
    -1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: newbie
    As for technology, well then?

    Secret technology cannot be given ... but secondary and well-developed, why not?

    Anything they can give to these gypsy-Indians, they will be able to screw up everything. On a tank biathlon they ruined their T-90s made in India. Primates. And you say "secondary", "fulfilled", they would even "Kalash" fucked up. Let them better cleanse their sacred Ganges from their feces.
    Almost 30 years have been building their own Arjun tank, and the Tejas light fighter is almost the same. Better to dance and sing.
    I have a conspiracy question - where does India get nuclear weapons?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 August 2017 16: 09
      +1
      "I have a conspiracy theological question - where does India get nuclear weapons?" ////

      Without any conspiracy theories - what you wrote about the Indians is wrong.
      Among the 1,4 billion people and dozens of peoples and tribes, a couple of peoples of several hundred million are very intelligent. Among them are scientists, engineers, and programmers.
      And they are able to be at the global level. And the sooner Russia realizes and erases this
      neglect of India - the more Russia will win.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 16 August 2017 18: 08
        +1
        It’s not the USSR and the Russian Federation to blame for such a thing ... with India a long history of cooperation in the Indo-Pakistan war too.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 August 2017 18: 10
    +1
    Give me another light fighter:

    with one engine "Product30"
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 16 August 2017 18: 59
      0
      Perhaps 108 cars for India after so many years and invested money. If you look at China and Pakistan, there are not so many, given that China is developing its aircraft industry efficiently, and the Indians are slipping. Pieces are bought, then Rafali with an incomprehensible amount (36), then 108 FGFA, later they will surprise something else ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 16 August 2017 19: 02
        0
        So the car is not cheap. And not yet. The Indian Air Force's need for heavy fighters is the same as the Su-30MKI, approximately. So we count on 200-300 pieces. Excites the other; part of the plants will be engaged in the production of MC21 and one plant can produce 12-15 pieces per year. How many will we make them? Car kits for Indians and 100 for themselves.
        1. Ugolek
          Ugolek 16 August 2017 19: 08
          0
          If the car is not cheap, you are welcome for the F-35 with a service package ...
          It's not about price, but about the real need for India. Will 108 cars cover all needs? Or will there still be an option?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 16 August 2017 19: 17
            0
            1. about 300 Su-30MKIs will be upgraded to super dry
            2. The Su-57 is not yet in its final form, especially the Indian version. Would you order immediately another 300pcs?
            3. And they will be produced in India .. unlike F35
            1. Ugolek
              Ugolek 16 August 2017 19: 20
              0
              I just do not fully know what they have on planes. Do you understand correctly that they will still finish building the Su-30 MKI in a certain amount?
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 16 August 2017 19: 22
                0
                They almost completed them and think how much more is needed so that the plant and workers would not stand idle before the launch of the T-50. And they began to monitor the option of upgrading the Su-30 MKI that is in service and may be producing new ones in a modernized version.
              2. Ugolek
                Ugolek 16 August 2017 19: 25
                0
                And what is the Super Dry?
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 16 August 2017 19: 58
                  +1
                  They have not yet approved ... like F-15 silent needles. 4 +++++
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 16 August 2017 21: 22
                    +1
                    Super dry primarily implies the ability to use anti-ship gun "BraMos". 108 appr. = 3 shelf cords. With a backup of the Su-30 (over 200 and most likely with further growth, because they themselves assemble), which they want to upgrade to the capabilities of the Su-35. As I understand it, they want modernization to take into account the “work” in Syria on the one hand; on the other hand, the BrahMos air variant will definitely want to intervene, which entails the installation of additional equipment. So the Indians are doing fine by the cords. By the way, that Germany has less than a hundred combat-ready sources, and this is far from a burden. And the Chinese "competitor", besides Delhi, also has butting from the USA and others for the disputed islands. And this stretches the capabilities of aviation on two fronts.
                    I am worried by the fact that for the modernization of the Su-30MKI Delhi may attract a third party. The Russian Federation must firmly assert its rights in this matter. hi
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 August 2017 20: 02
    +1


    like this
  15. mann-mann
    mann-mann 16 August 2017 23: 34
    0
    They themselves are not able to have their fifth generation aircraft cleanly, now some kind of India, which never knows how to build aircraft, will have such technologies!
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 17 August 2017 04: 41
      +1
      Quote: manne mann
      possess such technologies!

      which ones? Is the engine there upgraded from the SU-30 which they already produce, a glider? Well, they calculated a new glider on the server, well done. 25 years after the Americans, fully digital ... ECA is unseen. There will be no one else to sell all these “innovations” a bit, since the Americans will share the markets with the Europeans.
      1. dm-itry
        dm-itry 17 August 2017 07: 53
        0
        Do not make people laugh with this nonsense, if you are not aware of new technologies, this does not mean that they are not there.
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 17 August 2017 17: 38
          +1
          Quote: dm-itry
          Do not make people laugh with this nonsense, if you are not aware of new technologies, this does not mean that they are not there.

          I’m aware of new technologies, but are you aware that these "new technologies" are far from exclusive and lacking analogs in the world?
  16. dm-itry
    dm-itry 17 August 2017 07: 52
    +1
    No one in sound everything will sell the SU-57 now, especially with the transfer of technology. So India will have to roll up its lip.
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 17 August 2017 15: 34
      0
      Quote: dm-itry
      No one in sound everything will sell the SU-57 now, especially with the transfer of technology. So India will have to roll up its lip.


      You wrap your lips back ...
      The contract with the Indians to create a joint 5th generation fighter was signed many years ago. Hindus have already paid nearly $ 6 billion to develop it. And all this money went into the PAK-FA project. Under the contract, they will pay 4-6 billion dollars more.
      In return, they will receive all the technologies, as well as the right to produce 2/3 of their contract at their enterprises.

      So wrap your lips, you are our illiterate ...
  17. ZVO
    ZVO 17 August 2017 08: 53
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    newcomer,
    Quote: newbie
    The highlight is that T90 biathletes from the series "Maid India".


    What did you forget about the "maid in india" when you compared the air battles on Red Flag ...
  18. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 17 August 2017 15: 28
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    The market for military equipment is a trump card that must be managed competently in politics and business.
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 17 August 2017 16: 31
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      In general, it is clear that there is only one result - India in the region is becoming a very serious force in the region and China will have to reckon with this.
  19. SergF123
    SergF123 19 August 2017 10: 00
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    Kozlyachye dances ..... They waited until Russia itself brought the car to perfection, (excluding the engines so far), and now they want to produce it together .... for the 5th lard of dead amertzed presidents .... do not they want to hell, given that they will insist on production in India ... You need to twist such "partners" in one place!
  20. Eflintuk
    Eflintuk 20 August 2017 19: 58
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    You still can’t cook porridge with these gypsies ... :)