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Does the US supply Ukraine with RPG-7 modifications? Where's the Javelins? ..

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The network has information that at the moment, instead of the long-awaited Javelin Ukraine ATGM, on the basis of a contract with the United States can get 100 grenade launchers. We are talking about modified copies of RPG-7 grenade launchers for the US Army - PSRL-1. These grenade launchers were actively used by Americans to train the Afghan and Iraqi soldiers. At the moment there is no data on whether the United States will supply Ukraine with new grenade launchers or it is about used equipment. There is no exact information about whether they will put it at all ...

The site Veterans Today published material in which there are scan- and photocopies of the contract concluded between the United States and Ukraine last fall.

Does the US supply Ukraine with RPG-7 modifications? Where's the Javelins? ..


On the basis of the contract, Ukraine will pay the United States for the delivery of hundreds of clones of Soviet RPG-7 over half a million dollars. The contract states that the first deliveries were to begin on April 8. If the contract is being fulfilled, then Kiev should have already begun receiving grenade launchers from the United States "to counter Russian aggression." It should be noted that there were no celebrations for the meeting of "allied" weapons in Ukraine, as is usually the case in such cases. President Poroshenko with ardent speeches about unlimited support also did not speak.



This suggests that the "American" grenade launchers to Ukraine could not do. If so, then we can talk about another fraudulent scheme for money laundering or the shipment of weapons not for the needs of the Ukrainian army.
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  1. Olegater
    Olegater 11 August 2017 09: 38
    +6
    Pots were waiting for a tricked out and advanced weapon to destroy Russia that they hated, and they could get slingshots if they were put slingshots ha ha ha. So begs the rogues get slingshots wassat
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 11 August 2017 09: 46
      +22
      Slingshots are even more useful! Winter is coming, firewood is needed ...
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 11 August 2017 10: 14
        +4
        Quote: Olegater
        Pots were waiting for a tricked out and advanced weapon to destroy the Russia that they hated, and might get slingshots


        laughing
        No wonder, especially if you remember how they received the British police armored cars that rolled over on Ukrainian roads

      2. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 11 August 2017 11: 08
        +10
        yes it’s the old Amer’s fun, the Papuans, the skakuas and the like only sell old muskets hi
    2. maxim947
      maxim947 11 August 2017 09: 48
      +12
      RPG-7 is not a slingshot, it is the embodiment of the ideal in terms of price, convenience, reliability and especially in terms of quality. Outside Ukraine, they are not even able to make RPGs themselves; soon they will really pay with land.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 11 August 2017 09: 49
      +7
      Based on the contract, Ukraine will pay the United States for the supply of hundreds of clones of Soviet RPG-7 more than half a million dollars.

      So suckers and bred, they are not slaves of course. what
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 11 August 2017 11: 09
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        On the basis of the contract, Ukraine will pay the United States for the supply of hundreds of clones of Soviet RPG-7 more than half a million dollars. That's how suckers are bred, they are not slaves of course.

        5 000 Baku for 1 RPG ??? In kind, the divorce of suckers. They call it American help.
    4. samoletil18
      samoletil18 11 August 2017 09: 49
      +1
      And why should the Americans supply the Javelins if the RPG-7 is also a grenade launcher?
    5. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 11 August 2017 09: 54
      +1
      wassat Twist and twist, I want to deceive ...
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 11 August 2017 09: 56
      0
      Strelkova in Slavyansk also threw RPGs on the occasion (from whom it is not known), but 7 out of ten shots were unfit.
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 11 August 2017 11: 05
        +1
        there problems with shots for ATGMs were also "Flies."
    7. Maz
      Maz 11 August 2017 11: 29
      +1
      Duck vsu will be sold right there to the “Javedins” to the appaltsians, not to go to the fortuneteller. Then scandal, screams, slander, excuse .... laughing
    8. eklmn
      eklmn 12 August 2017 17: 12
      +1
      “Pots were waiting for a tricked out and advanced weapon to destroy the Russia that they hated ...”
      But is Ukraine already waging war with Russia or is it just about to? Please specify ...
  2. Logall
    Logall 11 August 2017 09: 41
    +15
    Caesar’s Caesar’s, what about serfs?
    Not jumping yet ...
    1. Logall
      Logall 11 August 2017 09: 49
      +15
      Do not start.
  3. volodya
    volodya 11 August 2017 09: 48
    0
    And again zrada!
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 11 August 2017 09: 48
    +1
    I have a tantrum from laughter !!!!))))
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto 11 August 2017 09: 50
    +5
    Yes, even if they deliver, the armies don’t touch the papers with a draft and will whistle through the papers, and the boxes will not even budge. A little later in Somalia will be unpacked. )))))))))))
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 August 2017 09: 53
    +7
    And what, the cool Soviet-made RPGs are over? Warehouses full of holes?
    1. Smog
      Smog 11 August 2017 11: 00
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Soviet-made RPGs over?

      So already sold, however ....
      1. notingem
        notingem 11 August 2017 15: 54
        0
        Like everyone else. They were unmeasured
  7. BVS
    BVS 11 August 2017 10: 06
    +6
    Quotes from the article - "The information appeared on the Web" + "At the moment there is no data on whether the United States will supply new grenade launchers to Ukraine or it’s about used. There is no exact information about whether they will deliver at all ..."
    What is the dispute about, did someone write something and that’s all?
    Fake sits on a fake and wakes a fake.
  8. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 11 August 2017 10: 22
    +2
    It is believed that this will soon appear in the Syrian "friends" of the United States, and not in Ukraine ...
  9. Wedmak
    Wedmak 11 August 2017 10: 23
    +2
    And what, in Ukraine ended RPG-7? They have been there since the days of the USSR like dirt.
    1. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 11 August 2017 11: 12
      +8
      most likely they didn’t end, but in light of the rigid decommunization program, they should not be used (they are Soviet))
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 11 August 2017 11: 18
        +1
        Um ... in the light of tough decommunization, no way to use almost everything that is on the territory of Ukraine. Well it was all built by the Communists. wassat
        1. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 11 August 2017 11: 23
          +7
          here from such duality they have a roof there and vomits, no matter where you look, Svidomoys everywhere sees greetings from the past from Muscovites))
        2. hrych
          hrych 11 August 2017 18: 14
          0
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well it was all built by the Communists

          In fact, the Bolsheviks renamed the Little Russians Russians into Ukrainians, i.e. for complete decommunization, you need a killer on the wall wassat
  10. PSih2097
    PSih2097 11 August 2017 10: 25
    +1
    But what, not a bad clone of "grandfather" for third countries ...
    the main thing is that the picattini bar for body kit was added to it wassat ...

    1. Artyom
      Artyom 11 August 2017 11: 07
      +1
      But only on horseradish he butt butt? he is needed as a hare stop signal!
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 12 August 2017 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Artyom
        on horseradish he butt butt? he is needed as a hare stop signal!

        How is it not needed? That "especially advanced" users with an exhaust in a shoulder did not rest! laughing
  11. Normal ok
    Normal ok 11 August 2017 10: 35
    0
    The facts "by the ears are drawn" one to one. What the article says about last year’s purchase from a private company. This can be seen even from the scan. What Washington is saying right now is interstate assistance.
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 August 2017 10: 44
      +4
      Quote: Normal ok
      What the article says about last year’s purchase from a private company. This can be seen even from the scan.

      But last year, the United States did not talk about LETAL weapons. It seems like a lethal State does not supply weapons, but the same State receives money from this, in the form of taxes. So not only that, after all, the same State has authorized this delivery.
      Quote: Normal ok
      What Washington is now saying is interstate assistance.

      So far, Washington has announced the POSSIBILITY of such a supply, and at the moment, this is a NERVE GAME. But soon everything will fall into place - after the meeting of Surkov and Walker.
  12. Catherine II
    Catherine II 11 August 2017 10: 56
    +2
    If we use a source for some reason, give the information to the end. Moreover, there is a gag in the news
    According to some reports, the launchers were delivered to the National Guard of Ukraine, including the Azov Regiment (from the original source)
    Azov has long received RPG data for study and training. NG data - saw delivery (RPG + TG-73 anti-tank grenade)
    The shot is designed to penetrate armor with active (dynamic) protection, consisting of low power explosive plates. The shot is TANDEMIC, that is, with two cumulative charges located one after the other, firing sequentially. The first, 55 mm caliber, destroys the dynamic protection, the second 105,5-mm [actually 73 mm] pierces armor up to 700 mm thick [according to the manufacturer - up to 400 mm]. Firing range does not exceed 200 m "
    But the supply of grenade launchers PSRL-1 NG Ukraine-has not yet seen. Except Azov, no one lit up with them.
    Also in the original source
    Some experts suggest that the contract may actually be an act of sabotage, which is part of the Obama administration’s efforts to undermine U.S. President Donald Trump and his declared policy towards Ukraine. The agreement was reached at the time when Barack Obama had to leave the White House. The contract was probably part of an ongoing campaign to undermine bilateral ties between US administrations.
    And my personal opinion is that Special Export bought grenade launchers for sponsorship assistance from Azov (since he is forbidden to directly help from the USA) from the company.
    Total 100 grenade launchers that will be tested in combat conditions, respectively, such a purchase is good for the company. This is a business.
    In addition, this is a special case. This is not the state Ukraine bought with American money for NG or APU, but a Ukrainian company from an American for the native PMC.
    The Javelins have nothing to do with it. The Barrettes and other things went the same way. Here it is necessary to distinguish between public procurement and private. What in the army is that in NG, what is private (Azov is the same)
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 11 August 2017 11: 18
      0


      Photo from Avakov's page 29.09.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
      Source: http://www.milnavigator.com/na-vooruzhenie-nacgva
      rdii-postupili-amerikanskie-sniperskie-vintovki-
      i-bolgarskie-protivotankovye-granaty /
    2. notingem
      notingem 11 August 2017 16: 01
      0
      Explained clearly. thank
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 11 August 2017 23: 27
      +5
      Ukraine is no more tongue
  13. Kot3713
    Kot3713 11 August 2017 11: 17
    0
    Everything as always through that very place laughing tongue laughing
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 August 2017 12: 33
    0
    more than half a million dollars

    Half a million for what they themselves have in stock. Not one Ukraine to breed suckers on weapons.
  15. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 11 August 2017 16: 38
    +1
    There are no fools in the USA, the Pentagon will think about it 100 times before selling these sophisticated Pans to these Pans! since the whole or the sector can sell it to the militias and those of the Russian Federation and all the secrets will cease to be such. Or maybe the words about the delivery of deliberate weapons are just an idle talk. For the press. And for seeding the pot. To amuse their vanity. request
  16. Realtor
    Realtor 11 August 2017 21: 39
    0
    the skakupuas in trousers will receive from Uncle Donald only what is pictured here, and how "friends" for licking everything entrusted, only at a triple price:
  17. Alexander Petrov1
    Alexander Petrov1 12 August 2017 06: 15
    0
    Who will put JAWELINS for free !? After all, they are ten times more expensive than RPG-7! In addition, they immediately get as trophies of NEW RUSSIA! How did the militants in SYRIA and IRAQ get!
  18. Yugra
    Yugra 12 August 2017 11: 14
    0
    Again merikantsi deceived. Well, at least tick to the Dnieper and drown ...)
  19. Kunica
    Kunica 12 August 2017 22: 14
    0
    In the 90s, the punks had a chip, selling brick at the station somewhere. For the price of a TV or sofa. And try not to buy. Here, something was remembered))