Russian-Iranian tests of the Ka-226T begin

Russian Helicopters Holding announces that joint Ka-226T multi-purpose helicopter tests with Iranian partners are starting. The main purpose of the joint test with the Iranian company Iran Helicopters Support and Renewal Company consists in determining the flight characteristics of a Russian helicopter in a hot and dry climate.

Tests with the Iranian company will be held on the basis of a memorandum of understanding signed between Moscow and Tehran about three months ago on issues of civil and military-technical cooperation. It is known that the manufacturer has already sent one of the Ka-226T helicopters to Iran, where the test phase began.

The tests will continue until September of this year, and a joint conference will be held on their results, during which they will report on the results of operating Russian multi-purpose helicopters under temperature conditions up to 50 Celsius.

Press office Russian Helicopters reminds that the Ka-226T is equipped with Turbomeca's two Arrius 2G1 engines with an electronic-digital control system (FADEC).

From the release:

Power unit in 580 hp provides a continued take-off or safe landing in the event of a single engine failure. The Ka-226T helicopter is built according to a modular scheme and is offered in various targeted modifications: from passenger to search and rescue.

Comments

[newcomer]

handsome baby! pass the test. and again and again_ engines, engines.

[Logall]

I love Kamov helicopters! I don’t understand anything in aviation, but I love it.

[newcomer]

love aviation_ is good. our person.

[Samaritan]

Quote: newbie

handsome baby! pass the test. and again and again_ engines, engines.

Handsome man, not that word, but when the pilot is also “dashing”, then in general the song:

[newcomer]

and we have, in my opinion, all the pilots with a twinkle.

[Arameev]

Quote: newbie

and we have, in my opinion, all the pilots with a twinkle.

Quote: ALLxANDr

The pilot is handsome !!!
Kamov helicopters really like!

helicopter of course super !! but the pilot !!!! .... in my opinion, just an air bully. this is clearly not a test. the pilot simply decided to demonstrate his “dare”. In short, the pilot is an idiot and any professional pilot agrees with this IMHO

[ALLxANDr]

The pilot is handsome !!!
Kamov helicopters really like!

[newcomer]

Yes there is.

[mark1]

The first flight (Ka-26) 1965, he would have the glory of Robinson and resp. count instances, but no, we introduce and implement everything

[jjj]

And Westerners will be allowed to supply equipment with their components to one sub-sanction state of another. We won’t be able to sell a hundred “superjets” to Iran without US consent

[x.andvlad]

... Ka-226T is equipped with two Turbomeca Arrius 2G1 engines
French again? Not tired of stepping on the same rake then?
When will we do our engines without problems? After all, a whole united engine building corporation was created. And where is the return?

[newcomer]

I don’t want to justify anyone, but in fairness it should be noted that a lot depends on the customer.

[For example]

Quote: x.andvlad

French again? Not tired of stepping on the same rake then?

You can go shopping at OBI or Leroy Merlin, you can buy Chinese goods there and the French can pay for them. This is patriotic.
But to buy components in France for equipment that will be produced in Russia which will then be sold to a third country and profit will remain in Russia is not patriotic.
Where is the logic?
Not tired of stepping on the same rake? I mean, are you tired of broadcasting other people's thoughts?

[Kurare]

In the sky of Moscow alone I see Eurocopters. This is where import substitution must begin!

And there will be stable demand and stable sales, then you can order and design your new engine.

[Grits]

In order for sales of such birds to go, the authorities need to strictly ban purchases of any Robins and others like them in Russia. Now there are many experts who, with calculations and arguments, will begin to convince me that this is impossible and not profitable. BUT! I DO NOT BELIEVE! There would be a will. Under comrade Stalin, such a decision would be welcomed without any discussion in all spheres and circles.

[Zaurbek]

Robinson is cheaper and less - he is not a competitor.

[x.andvlad]

Quote: For example

Where is the logic?

Dear, you are trying to suck your purely logic out of your finger. What does Leroy have to do with it ...?
It is not so much about patriotism, how much about the need to develop our own technologies and industry. And, are you talking about profit? ... Today, there seems to be profit, and tomorrow the Americans will "do a ta ta" to the French ... and where will your profit be then ?!
The assembly and production of these engines must be localized in Russia to such an extent that dependence on the French disappears over time. Only under such conditions should they cooperate after the story with their Misral.

[utyutkin]

Quote: x.andvlad

Dear, you are trying to suck your purely logic out of your finger

that is, you think that the world division of labor is not that logic? Have you ever thought that it is not possible to own all the technologies? what’s behind your populist slogans “we will do everything in Russia” as a rule (with a few exceptions) or we will do everything badly in Russia or we won’t do it at all and we’ll drank the allocated money. ? will you buy goods of inadequate quality if you can buy the best and at about the same money? I remember how in the USSR they shouted, we will fly faster than everyone and above everyone. but in practice it’s not very long and expensive to maintain. if the economy is not able to pull these technologies, then their development is just nonsense. there is an opportunity to buy cheaply and angrily - buy. and as for the sanctions, I’ll say only one thing, there is no second in Russia loudly. diplomats should work. and in general, everyone should try to do their job. sanctions are a clear jamb of diplomats and it is not clear why this jamb should be decided by industrialists.

[x.andvlad]

didn’t you think that the customer is not interested in the ka266 with the Russian engine because it is objectively worse?
Thinking about this is what needs to be developed. By the way, a state corporation was created for this. Of course, apparently, it does not do without the “sawflies”, since there is no result in this direction.
if the economy is not able to pull these technologies, then their development is just nonsense. there is an opportunity to buy cheaply and angrily - buy.

You are raving, dear. And with such nonsense under the slogans of Gaidar and his associates, we have come to the point that the nails were bought by Chinese, and at the same time the whole country was induced by managers (hucksters) and lawyers. And there was no one to twist the nuts.
For this, economists (not balobols) are obliged to work hard so that the economy "pulls" these and other high technologies. And the division of labor, dear, should be reasonable, and benefit not only traders, but also the development of industry, and not lead the country into a dead end.

[x.andvlad]

there is an opportunity to buy cheaply and angrily - buy.

Apparently, are you one of these?
And Gromyko, dear, relied, among other things, on a powerful economy. And these figures killed everything.

[utyutkin]

Quote: x.andvlad

For this, economists (and not balobols) are required to work hard so that the economy "pulls" these and other high technologies

how many economists don’t get new technologies in the country from this will not come out :) by the way, the Gaidar is an economist :). and about nails and bolts which are 2 times cheaper in China and most importantly better, please tell me if you personally buy a domestic one that is frank guano or Chinese which is better and 2 times cheaper? that’s the whole economy. and remember the geographical division of labor, there is NO alternative!

[x.andvlad]

Quote: ututyulkin

and remember the geographical division of labor, there is NO alternative!

I will repeat once again: the division of labor should be reasonable, and be beneficial not only to traders, but also to the development of industry, and not to lead the country into a dead end. For these purposes, they strive to localize production at home, and not over the hill.
and remember the geographical division of labor, there is NO alternative!
Remember YOU that the geography of our country is large enough so that this division would be its own - domestic. Then it will be all (or almost all) of their own, reliable and not expensive. It just needs to be seriously dealt with, and not China, to hope.

[newcomer]

I thought only in the Indian Air Force vinaigrette, it turns out your comment is worse. I’ll ask one question (bypassing the lecture on import substitution, production potentials, sanctions wars ...), do I need to make and sell my own engines?

[Zaurbek]

In order to organize the production of engines you need a series ... Now with the Indians we will launch a large series of Kamovs and you can invest in the production of engines.

[newcomer]

It would be more logical and much easier (the reasons indicated above) to work under your own engines, initially. it's like, it turns out how to sell, then to feed the paddling pools. only for myself, in my native dvigla, maybe. yes, yes, I know, I know. Of course, when the Teiu 226 was muddied, no one thought of finwoin. but in vain.

[Zaurbek]

The engine is being developed for 10 years and costs not $ 1 billion.

[Grits]

The engine is being developed for 10 years and costs not $ 1 billion.
What nonsense. And why the hell are we feeding an army of technical scouts? Or are there only in China? Then take an example from China - to steal drawings and those. documentation is always easier than coming up with something yourself. I don't give a damn about all the howls like the Chinese do. And nothing - they give them a ride and give us a ride.

[Samaritan]

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Turbomeca

When it comes to money, they silently silently squinting their eyes

“We expect that sanctions will not have any effect on our joint projects,” said Olivier Andries, President and CEO of Turbomeca.

For Iran and the EU, in particular, Sogerma has built a center for maintenance and repair (MRO) of "airbuses" near Tehran. And Eurocopter has delivered several batches of Ecomeuil family helicopters with Turbomeca engines to Persian oil and gas companies, as well as state medical and rescue services. And after the imposition of sanctions, our KA-32s won, so they bite their elbows and now, like Siemens, they "quietly" advance their ...

[klaus16]

Again, the engines are not ours. Damn will fall under sanctions.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: klaus16

Again, the engines are not ours.

tradition .. on ships the same. and at a nuclear power plant in Turkey, turbines-French-to-us-shys ... built-built ... and built ... Tajik masons. not?

[Progressor]

Well done! We need new markets!

[Bootlegger]

if they pass the test, then it is possible to sell it to Serbia. out today +46 in the shade. although officially +39. only watermelons save the people. dear infection this year. 12.5 rub / kg. .a the helicopter is really very pretty. the working bee is a sight for sore eyes.

[FLOOD]

So the Persians have a better spinner

[mark1]

Looking at the photo, I immediately remembered Bolkhovitinov’s “Flea”. although perhaps this is my personal perception.

[Zaurbek]

We need to move our option:


4-8pcs Kornetov and optics above the sleeve ...

[mag nit]

Finally, the long-awaited import substitution.

[air wolf]

For two years at the end of the eighties, I flew on the Ka-26 in an aero club, what you didn’t believe on it, a roll of 90 grams is normal, I’m silent about flying under bridges, and once I flew all day and fell asleep when landing, woke up with screws, I look down the land is 50 meters at the top of the blister, the instructor was also asleep, as I didn’t even remember the taxi. Good machine. And then a couple of years on the Ka-27 flew after a year on the Mi-8 (trough). After flying on a coaxial circuit, I consider it the best. Sorry poherili topic!

[newcomer]

Well, you damn it, give!

[air wolf]

were young, stupid))

[avt]

Quote: air wolf

. Sorry poherili topic!

Who? WHERE? In three or four years, your engine will be lightweight, and there, Kamov will bring something else with hard screws and a pusher to boot.

[UAZ 452]

If there are Western-made components, then again, as with the Superjet, they will not be allowed to export to Iran under pain of breaking up cooperation (the Siemens example is before everyone's eyes), while they themselves will sell the same products freely and at ease. Alas, international law serves those who write it for themselves. And for now, it's not us.

[padded jacket]

Again, this contract is likely to “break off” as in the case of Superjets, and we (Russia) ourselves are contributing to this by approving US sanctions against other countries, as we recently approved sanctions against the DPRK people.
KA-226 in tests in Iran


At the expense of delivering our Superjets to Iran, in general, Europeans and Americans are delivering billions of dollars of airplanes to Iran (to Iran), but we cannot because we use Western avionics and engines and of course not Boeing and Airbus don’t want to “produce” competitors by banning their governments are our supplies there.
Won't take off
Why the multibillion-dollar Russian deal with Iran breaks down
Producer Superjet 100 is waiting for permission to supply aircraft to Iran from OFAC's US Office of Foreign Assets Control, part of the US Treasury Department
The US Department of the Treasury OFAC is a key entity that monitors compliance with sanctions, including against Cuba, Iran, North Korea and other countries. Lawyer of the business fair bureau Anton Sonichev explains that the supply of aircraft without OFAC approval threatens to aggravate the foreign policy situation and worsen diplomatic relations between the countries. In addition, the violator of the sanctions prohibitions may be fined.
The share of imports in the supply of materials and goods for SSJ100 for nine months of 2016 amounted to 72 percent, taking into account engines, which account for about 34 percent of material costs in the structure of the aircraft prime cost, according to the financial report of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft.
Superjet uses a number of key production systems of American corporations: Hamilton Sundstrand - avionics, Goodrich Corporation - wheel brakes and brake control, Parker - hydraulic system, Honeywell - auxiliary power unit.

Honestly, it’s just a SHAME for such a great aviation power as ours.

[Zaurbek]

What would you know: All airbuses also ask for such permission. All modern airplanes have the same US production systems (either communications, or landing systems)

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zaurbek

What would you know: All airbuses also ask for such permission

So the fact is that the Airbus will give this permission, but it may well not be given to us.

[Zaurbek]

The question is different: are there alternative systems providers?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zaurbek

The question is different: are there alternative systems providers?

That is the point, it is necessary to completely get away from the important systems and assemblies purchased abroad and finally understand our opponents and not friends.

[Zaurbek]

If you want the aircraft to fly to other countries you can not do without foreign components and systems. If inside the country, please. But Iran is smaller than the Russian Federation and the fact that we have a near carrier, they have an international one.

[Engineer]

Kamovtsy soon Superjet surpass in the number of imported components. Although our gearbox remained. There is a French engine on the Ka-62, and the gearbox with the transmission is Austrian. About avionics and say nothing.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Engineer

Kamovtsy soon Superjet surpass in the number of imported components

So it will have similar problems with it as with the Superjet and then ours will sincerely be surprised why our products are not delivered to foreign countries and complain about the sanctions half of which we ourselves approved.

[Zaurbek]

Our gearbox, but made according to our drawings in Austria, our avionics.

[Engineer]

Russian Helicopters intends to import foreign transmissions and the engine of the new Ka-2020 helicopter after 62, the holding’s CEO Andrei Boginsky told reporters.

our ... our ...

[Zaurbek]

They did it in a minimal amount and it was not profitable to buy equipment, so they placed an order in Austria.

[APASUS]

There will be the same problems as Iran’s purchase of our Jets. Ours will go to prove to the Americans now and it’s gone, it’s gone ................
Own electronics should also have their own engines, only then can we trade without looking back at the Americans

[Zaurbek]

Develop a 10-year engine without any problems, invest in production ... the same with electronics. Only this must be done in parallel and with an eye on world analogues. And the financial system in the country should be these 10-15 years with stable demand for airline tickets (growing preferably) without sharp fluctuations in the exchange rate.