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Seoul says Pyongyang "will pay a harsh price"

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Official Seoul convenes an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council in connection with the situation on the Korean Peninsula. The very wording “Seoul convenes” draws close attention to itself. Emergency meetings were not always convened at the initiative of a number of countries, for example, when Ukrainian radicals harassed and burned people in Odessa, when the Ukrainian army crushed veterans with armored vehicles in Mariupol, when American bombers ruined entire neighborhoods of Belgrade. However, the initiative of Seoul is supported, and the Security Council will be convened for a meeting today (August 10).

The convocation is being made against the background of threatening rhetoric from South Korea to its northern neighbor.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Army of the Republic of Korea issued a statement saying that the South Korean army "forced Pyongyang to pay a heavy price in the event of military aggression against the people of South Korea." Earlier, practically the same words were spoken to Seoul and Washington by DPRK politicians.

Seoul says Pyongyang "will pay a harsh price"


Instead of solving the problem in a negotiation format, the parties are again exploiting hostile rhetoric towards each other. At the same time, according to tradition, the United States, who, trying to play the role of a world gendarme again and again, uses extremely harsh interpretations of the country that has nuclear weapons. In this case, not so long ago, the American aircraft carriers, who decided to scare Pyongyang, were left empty-handedly laid off from the shores of North Korea.

Recall that it was precisely at the initiative of the United States that several days ago, regular sanctions were taken against Pyongyang. By the way, Russia and China in the UN Security Council voted to impose sanctions measures.
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  1. xetai9977
    xetai9977 10 August 2017 08: 25
    +5
    It seems to smell fried. This Eun has made everyone around him hate him. Even an ally of the PRC made it clear that he washes his hands.
    1. Aleksey7777777
      Aleksey7777777 10 August 2017 08: 34
      +24
      He didn’t achieve anything, he sat quietly in his sandbox, didn’t touch anyone ... They made a scarecrow from the USA and Kazakhstan to make money for the military-industrial complex, they just discussed yesterday that the South was planning a global rearmament. Against whom? apocalypse, the fiend of the hell of the grandson of Kim Il Sung. Well, what kind of Demon is he, I beg you ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 10 August 2017 08: 47
        +16
        The greatest of the Kims is Kim Jong-il, who accepted the bastard Korea, and left it with nuclear missiles, by the way carried out reforms in agriculture, saving the country from hunger, as a result of isolation. He wanted to establish relations with Moscow, before his death he rode a train on the Russian Federation. There is a version that he was killed by a deadly and pernicious cancer with the help of the Chinese, who did not want his rapprochement with Moscow and the construction of a trans-Korean gas pipeline and railway. A lasting peace, with an economic foundation, would have formed on the Korean peninsula. South Korean goods would gain an increase in competitiveness due to the cheap price of energy carriers (quality not inferior to Japanese, the price not exceeding Chinese), and the Great Silk Road in the form of a trans-Eurasian railway, and the road would start from South Korea. Also, the DPRK is a very rich country with mineral resources and the Russian Federation would participate in their development honestly, with mutual benefit, and not like the Chinese, taking advantage of the difficult situation plundered the Koreans for lousy food. But it did not grow together, Ira was removed, while Eun figured out the Chinese betrayal, perhaps it was already too late. If Putin doesn’t resolve the situation, Korea will be on fire ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 August 2017 10: 41
          +4
          Quote: hrych
          If Putin doesn’t resolve the situation, Korea will be on fire ...


          The United States puts the situation in a hopeless situation and Russia and China must intervene, otherwise the senile and non-professionals from America will break firewood.
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 10 August 2017 10: 57
            +11
            Guys, salute!
            The convocation is being made against the background of threatening rhetoric from South Korea to its northern neighbor.

            Against the background of all that is happening, Seoul’s rhetoric looks rather funny, cute and funny. I immediately remembered a moment from the Soviet past, when healthy guys, standing around the corner, sent a snotty goner to rush into the boys from someone else's yard ...
            But seriously, don't Seoul bluff. The trouble begins - Samsung-s from Eun do not fight back ....
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 August 2017 11: 07
              +3
              Good time Kostya! hi
              You don’t have to expect anything good from this situation, the USA is at an impasse and don’t know what to do next ...
              1. For example
                For example 10 August 2017 12: 26
                0
                So far, that they rule the mattresses. With us, no one can explain why the Russians need North Korea.
                One gets the impression that most of them are waiting for steps from GDP like "not like the United States." And that is the point of all the chatter.
                The only argument is that they put anti-missile defense mattresses at our borders! This is bad for us! Therefore, mattresses should not do this. And that’s it!

                So why do we need North Korea? Maybe let there be a united Korea? Without nuclear weapons !!!

                Our industry is tied with southerners - tankers, cars, samsungs. So the question with whom we our economy answers: "Long live South Korea !!! "
                1. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 25
                  +3
                  So why do we need North Korea? Maybe let there be a united Korea? Without nuclear weapons !!!

                  Yeah .. Without nuclear weapons, but with American military bases near Vladivostok ..! Do you really need this ..?
                  Our industry is tied with southerners - tankers, cars, samsungs. So the question with whom we our economy answers: "Long live South Korea !!!"

                  And what will your industry say about the deployment of American military bases, including missile defense bases practically near Vladivostok ..?
                  1. alex86
                    alex86 10 August 2017 19: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: igorj 51
                    with American military bases near Vladivostok ..!

                    The size of North Korea is so insignificant that Seoul that Cheongjin is insignificant for strategic purposes. Better united Korea, will be calmer.
            2. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 10 August 2017 11: 12
              +2
              Samsung makes self-propelled guns, robotic turrets, etc. Not kidding hi
          2. hrych
            hrych 10 August 2017 11: 05
            +7
            Quote: cniza
            Russia and China must intervene

            The Chinese have already surrendered. But Putin can offer an option, as with Assad’s chemical weapons, when Obams didn’t have anything to say, though a decent connection was scattered along the coast for credibility
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 August 2017 11: 10
              +2
              It is necessary to find a way out and it seems we will again save the "face of the United States."
            2. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 10 August 2017 11: 14
              +8
              Hope in China - both. (Neigh) ... lying down. This is not the 53rd year, this is not the same China under the leadership of Mao ..... Eun has a small chance, but he has the opportunity to open the Russian Navy base on its shores .....
              1. Solomon Kane
                Solomon Kane 10 August 2017 11: 27
                +9
                laughing lol .... and like in the "Rock" at the last moment, before an air strike on Pyongyang ....... Guys! Guys! There are Russians!
                1. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 28
                  +2
                  .and like in the "Rock" at the last moment, before an air strike on Pyongyang ....... Guys! Guys! There are Russians!

                  In in ... And the Americans do not care who the Russians or the Africans are there ... Trump said to bomb, then to bomb .. :)))))
                  1. alex86
                    alex86 10 August 2017 19: 37
                    +1
                    Quote: igorj 51
                    Trump said to bomb, then to bomb ..

                    I would rather agree - the aggravation game will ultimately throw off Una, we will not have to support the next mentally alternative, and then we will all begin to help together - there will be a topic for interaction and reconciliation. Koreans feel sorry for (conditionally), but a terrible end is better than horror without end ...
      2. raw174
        raw174 10 August 2017 14: 15
        +6
        I agree! A harmless country that does not pester and does not threaten anyone, nor impose its ideology and way of life on anyone ...
    2. The black
      The black 10 August 2017 08: 35
      +3
      The Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Army of the Republic of Korea issued a statement stating that the South Korean army “made Pyongyang pay a heavy price in the event of military aggression against the people of South Korea”
      They said something, but I think that they took more than the US statements ... Seoul is located almost on the border with the DPRK - the range of the artillery, so the South Caucasus will pay a price that is no less terrible. In general, to whom this conflict is 100% unfavorable, it is South Korea. They understand that they are becoming scapegoats to disassemble the United States and the DPRK. They understand that the USA don't give a damn about them. The only thing that holds back the USA is the uncertainty that one hundred percent guarantee they will not allow an attack on their territories (they are deeply in Japan and the South Caucasus ...) Well, the North Koreans are constrained by the understanding that if a conflict starts, they will be destroyed (they wouldn’t have declared a hundred there)
      1. jjj
        jjj 10 August 2017 09: 49
        +1
        And Pyongyang can cover Seoul from the barrel artillery. The war in Korea is the destruction of one nation. But then Japan will get
        1. alex86
          alex86 10 August 2017 19: 45
          +1
          Quote: jjj
          it is the destruction of one people.

          We went for it in the Donbass - the better the Koreans ...
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 10 August 2017 11: 04
        +9
        In the current political situation, the State is on the verge of choosing: either to become a threat, or to remain in the role of a victim. There is no third. Eun chose the first.
      3. alex86
        alex86 10 August 2017 19: 44
        +1
        Quote: Black
        what is holding back the United States is the uncertainty that with a XNUMX% guarantee they will not allow a blow to their territories

        I think that on the one hand they have considerable confidence in this, on the other - if suddenly some territory suffers, this will serve to consolidate society (like a Crimean one). In this case, North Korea will definitely be demolished, and they will surrender their leaders as soon as the opportunity arises.
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 21: 04
          +1
          yes they themselves, as soon as the opportunity arises, will surrender their leaders.

          Are you sure about this ..? I personally haven’t. They don’t judge people by themselves .. This is how we, in fact, 91m surrendered our country together with the leaders .. And without any war with an external aggressor ... Now, we are reaping the fruits of this. But this does not mean that Koreans will do exactly the same as us. They saw HOW all this ended with us and I am sure they drew conclusions for themselves from our behavior then.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 August 2017 08: 28
    +11
    Seoul says Pyongyang "will pay a harsh price"
    How did you get these fighting hamsters. Seoul got tired of making TVs and cars? It seems that a trio of boobies were going to play Russian roulette. And our Chinese, tell them to sit and watch these three deer fall asleep all over the nuclear feces. God must understand this gang don’t let anything sprinkle on our territory. All "both three." am bully
    1. igorj 51
      igorj 51 10 August 2017 08: 42
      +3
      .All this gang should understand God, do not let anything fall on our territory. They will receive all "both three."

      Come on to you .. Rather, your leaders, so to speak, will bend once again under these two of this trio ..
    2. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 10 August 2017 08: 43
      +3
      And ours will support the USA, you will see ...
      1. Aleksey7777777
        Aleksey7777777 10 August 2017 08: 47
        +5
        Yes, no one will be surprised ... Many will be surprised if they DO NOT bend.
        1. Logall
          Logall 10 August 2017 09: 05
          +19
          Quote: Aleksey7777777
          Yes, no one will be surprised ... Many will be surprised if they DO NOT bend.

          hi The Kremlin’s arched back is no longer surprised. How are they going to fix things in the Middle East, if in the Dalniy they shit in their own basket ...
          So the harvest can not be collected !!!
      2. The black
        The black 10 August 2017 08: 52
        0
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        And ours will support the USA, you will see

        Who are you? smile
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 10 August 2017 08: 57
          +4
          The power of the Russian Federation, to be more precise ...
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            1. pvv113
              pvv113 10 August 2017 09: 27
              +3
              I also believed that Russia would not support the Anglo-Saxons in the matter of sanctions against the DPRK request
      3. Nasrat
        Nasrat 10 August 2017 09: 44
        +5
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        And ours will support the USA, you will see ...

        Our people should always seek benefits for Russia, and what will happen to the Koreans - let the Koreans think ...

        An example of how our people stood up for the Bulgarians - and fought to the last Russian ... An example from the history of the USSR - who just didn’t do the “pleasant” - everyone turned away ... and tried to kick.
        I insist on protecting the interests of Russia, and not as the interests of the DPRK (they have their own leader - let him think)
        1. jjj
          jjj 10 August 2017 09: 51
          +4
          And the presence in the DPRK of nuclear weapons for Russia is not profitable
          1. igorj 51
            igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 33
            +1
            And the presence in the DPRK of nuclear weapons for Russia is not profitable

            But the DPRK is profitable, and what are you offering now ..?
        2. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 32
          0
          [quote] I insist on protecting the interests of Russia, and not as the interests of the DPRK (they have their own leader - let them think) [/ quote
          That's right, so he thinks and defends his interests, or rather the interests of his country and not Russia .. But only the interests of his country and the interests of Russia unfortunately do not coincide, they are directly opposite. But it seems that is precisely what causes such indignation here on the site and sometimes even hatred .. here it seems that some have formed the opinion that Un should or even simply must defend the interests of Russia, even contrary to the interests of his country ...
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 10 August 2017 14: 02
            +1
            In general, on the drum, what the Korean from North (South) Korea thinks and defends .. the main thing is to observe our interests.
            1. igorj 51
              igorj 51 10 August 2017 17: 37
              +1
              In general, on the drum, what the Korean from North (South) Korea thinks and defends .. the main thing is to observe our interests.

              So this Korean, as you called him by the drum your interests, he defends his interests .. And what do you propose to do in this situation ..?
      4. ferganec
        ferganec 10 August 2017 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        And ours will support the USA

        it is useless to fill the sandbox with water and fry the sun ... the sand from this current is clean ...
        such a "chess" moment ... they pushed the black queen into the sandbox!
      5. alex86
        alex86 10 August 2017 19: 46
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        And ours will support the USA, you will see ...

        Though they will be right here ...
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 21: 05
          +1
          Though they will be right here ...

          Those. bend under the Americans and be right ..? But what then are national interests ..? Do you think the interests of an overseas host are more important ..?
    3. hrych
      hrych 10 August 2017 08: 58
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      God forbid that it will fall on our territory.

      The gods are merciful to us, the airborne infection is more an invention of the green - CIA agents, because our nuclear weapons will never give them power over the Planet, and the real danger is the contamination of water by drains, in the Sea of ​​Japan it will make the mud sweep away from us, and that minuscule pick up the current from the south, will be cleared through the Japanese coast
  3. anjey
    anjey 10 August 2017 08: 55
    +3
    here is a good example of the separation and etching of striped rags usa like wild dogs of one Korean people .....
    1. Aleksey7777777
      Aleksey7777777 10 August 2017 09: 00
      +4
      That yes, yes, yes, they know how, we must pay tribute, just look at Ukraine ...
      1. alex86
        alex86 10 August 2017 19: 48
        +1
        Quote: Aleksey7777777
        just look at Ukraine ...

        Our contribution to Ukraine is much more significant ...
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      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 10 August 2017 09: 07
        +4
        And we did not take part in this? North Korea, this is our creation with the Chinese.

        How to say .. The initiators of the partition of Korea were just the Americans. Even during the war, at the Yalta Conference, then at the Potsdam Conference in 1945 .. And everything else is already a consequence ..
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 10 August 2017 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: anjey
      here is a good example of the separation and etching of striped rags usa like wild dogs of one Korean people .....

      the two Koreas are two different worlds. And Kim Il Sung divided them just with the help of communist ideology. Only here in South Korea, life is so orders of magnitude better that the North Koreans run there and not the South towards them.
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 41
        +2
        the two Koreas are two different worlds. And Kim Il Sung divided them just with the help of communist ideology. Only here in South Korea, life is so orders of magnitude better that the North Koreans run there and not the South towards them.

        But until the beginning of the 70s the situation was exactly the opposite. And they fled mainly from South Korea .. and now, even if not so much, they return from South Korea, but those who escaped there before .. But the world "independent" and "democratic" media do not like to write about it .. For it is not beneficial for the image of South Korea as a "free" and "democratic" country ...
        http://www.dw.com/ru/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%
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        A refugee from North Korea, who managed to become a popular TV presenter in Seoul, again under mysterious circumstances reappeared in the DPRK and starred in propaganda videos.


        Among the 30 North Korean refugees living in the south of the peninsula, every year there are more and more who want to return home. The South Korean Ministry of Defense only records about 000 such cases a year. But, according to one of the MPs, the exact number is unknown. Presumably, we are talking about a hundred people a year.

        So there’s not such a “paradise of the earth” in this South Korea as some here try to paint us ..
        1. alex86
          alex86 10 August 2017 19: 53
          +1
          That is, of the 30 twelve people said (note, said) that the north was better. I also say that 000 years ago I was better in the USSR (when the trees were big) - so what? That would not shake the air, if it does not threaten you.
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 11 August 2017 10: 19
          0
          .
          Quote: igorj 51
          A refugee from North Korea who managed to become a popular TV presenter in Seoul, under mysterious circumstances, again ended up in North Korea and starred in propaganda videos.
          Well, you are not quoting the entire article:
          "Seoul’s police do not rule out that the girl was abducted by North Korean intelligence agencies. There are rumors that Lim was blackmailed, threatening to crack down on her relatives in North Korea."
          Quote: igorj 51
          Among 30 000 North Korean refugees living in the south of the peninsula, every year there are more and more who want to return home. The South Korean Ministry of Defense only records about 12 of such cases per year.

          Even if it’s true, then from 30000!!!! runaways, total 0,333% want to come back! What is there to talk about. There are always people who cannot adapt to new life.
          1. igorj 51
            igorj 51 11 August 2017 18: 03
            0
            Well, you are not quoting the entire article:
            "Seoul’s police do not rule out that the girl was abducted by North Korean intelligence agencies. There are rumors that Lim was blackmailed, threatening to crack down on her relatives in North Korea."

            And the Seoul police have at least some evidence that this girl was abducted by the DPRK special services ..? they cannot “exclude” anything, only if they are voiced in the media, then you need to bring evidence or keep quiet in a rag. I'm not talking about such a “touching” concern for the North Korean relatives of this girl ...
            Even if this is true, then out of 30000 !!!! runaway, only 0,333% want to return! What is there to talk about. There are always people who cannot adapt to new life.

            Are you sure that you brought the exact percentage of those wishing to return ..? This is the first, second, HOW do you explain the fact that among the DPRK refugees the highest percentage of those who commit suicide. And this just indicates that in South Korea everything is not at all as wonderful as they paint there. And here the narrow-minded citizens believe.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 10 August 2017 09: 04
    +5
    Yesterday, the owner noted with "fire and rage that the world has never seen," today the mongrel from behind the owner’s back, about the "severe price" has been piercing ... He fulfills the bone ...
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    1. igorj 51
      igorj 51 10 August 2017 09: 34
      +5
      And Eun, this is generally a clinic. What to expect from him, only God knows.

      The clinic is just "exceptional" under the leadership of the leader of the "democrats" Trump and their puppets yapping from behind their master .. Moreover, they are threatening to destroy an entire people ... So they just became a problem. For all. And not North Korea, which seeks only one thing. So that all these "democrats" leave her alone.
      1. alex86
        alex86 10 August 2017 19: 55
        +1
        Quote: igorj 51
        the leader of the "democrats" trump

        That is, now not "Obama (further in one word what they wrote on the machines)"? Deputies clapped in vain?
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 21: 07
          0
          That is, now not "Obama (further in one word what they wrote on the machines)"? Deputies clapped in vain?

          On the fence, they also write a word of three letters .. And take a closer look there are firewood .. :))))
    2. Nikolai Petrov
      Nikolai Petrov 10 August 2017 10: 04
      +3
      This is for whom the DPRK has become a problem? For Russia? Not. For the PRC? Not. I doubt that the DPRK problem is for you personally. Give at least one example when and to whom they wanted to instill Juche ideas. And they make rockets and nuclear weapons only so that they are not "democratized" in the state of Libya, Iraq, etc.
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        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 11: 14
          +2
          If not a problem, why did Russia and China vote for the sanctions? For company?

          IMHO, but then the fact that in Russia the entire political elite is dependent on the States, has millions / billionth of bank accounts, real estate, children, etc. I wouldn’t discount it. also the fact that all gold reserves of Russia are stored in the United States in American securities. And this is oh, what a powerful blackmail tool .. And of course, the fact that Russia and China are part of the club of "official" nuclear powers that are supposed to be legally allowed to have nuclear weapons, and are categorically against the emergence of new nuclear powers. China, on the other hand, is extremely dependent on trade contracts with the United States and, in fact, has preferred to exchange its foreign policy interests for trade with the United States. Those. essentially sold for dollars. In principle, this is not surprising, China has always been and is more traders than warriors. And foreign policy issues are, oddly enough, not their hobby. Something like that.
      2. alex86
        alex86 10 August 2017 19: 58
        +1
        Quote: Nikolai Petrov
        For Russia?

        Yes. This is the point of provocation for the use of nuclear weapons - no matter who. It will end badly.
  6. San Sanych
    San Sanych 10 August 2017 09: 48
    +3
    if the US cleaned the Korean peninsula, then there would be no such problems
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 10 August 2017 09: 54
    +2
    Not long ago they wrote that they found a rare-earth metal deposit in North Korea and were going to develop it, this is certainly not oil, but without these metals there is no modern technology, this does not explain the U.S. concern for the inhabitants of North Korea, because the Saudis do not care about the lack of democracy. Now imagine for a moment that North Korea has managed to solve its internal problems through the development of open fields. This is what an example would be for a democratic public; it would turn out that democracy is not a prerequisite for the country's prosperity, even our and the Chinese elites would be combed. Definitely cut, until democracy has suffered.
  8. Ural50
    Ural50 10 August 2017 09: 55
    +2
    Pyongyang, I’m sure I’m morally ready to pay, but is Washington and Seoul ready? I think no.
    1. alex86
      alex86 10 August 2017 20: 04
      +1
      Quote: Ural50
      Pyongyang then I'm sure I'm mentally prepared to pay

      What does "ready to pay" mean? Put a couple of million of your citizens? Are they these citizens ready? Are you ready to pay morally the lives of your loved ones for Putin’s ambitions? To say that they are ready to sacrifice the life of a mother, daughter, son, wife so that our Commander-in-Chief could satisfy their aspirations? If you say yes, then you either don’t have them (loved ones) or you lie.
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 10 August 2017 21: 10
        0
        What does "ready to pay" mean? Put a couple of million of your citizens? Are they these citizens ready?

        You will not believe it, but North Korean citizens, unlike you, are ready .. And we must take into account the fact that the mentality of the North Koreans, like all East Asian peoples, is completely different. They were always ready to fight regardless of losses .. An example of Japanese kamikaze from the Second World War ..
  9. anjey
    anjey 10 August 2017 10: 17
    +4
    Quote: xetai9977
    It seems to smell fried. This Eun has made everyone around him hate him. Even an ally of the PRC made it clear that he washes his hands.

    but I like his position to be independent and incorruptible, not bending under U $ A, Rabinovich is not given to you by nature ....
    1. alex86
      alex86 10 August 2017 20: 11
      +1
      To you, Onan, the idea of ​​Juche is naturally close - quietly with your left hand. But just why it is not possible for both Un and ours to become more effective than U $ A, to show that we are better in practice, and not in rhetoric. To become (for Russia) not 1/10 of the United States with a population of 1/2 (which means 5 times lower efficiency), but 1/2 - to become level? Without bending (in the sense, not in the elbow-elbow pose, as it is now)? And then getting up from his knees stopped precisely at this stage.
  10. Old26
    Old26 10 August 2017 10: 28
    +1
    Quote: rudolff
    That's for sure. At first they said that "the economic strangulation of North Korea is unacceptable," and then they voted for a new package of sanctions. If only abstained for decency.

    In principle, the previous sanctions imply only three positions. On the prohibition of concluding NEW contracts for the supply of coal, lead and seafood from the DPRK EMNIP. The ban on hiring North Korean workers is said to be somehow slurred. In addition, time is given for the completion of previously concluded contracts - 1,5 months.
    It’s necessary to actually read the takts of sanctions. The ban on the export of seafood can financially affect the DPRK, but at least it can fall more on the table for the North Koreans with a poor ration.

    Quote: rudolff
    North Korea has become a real problem for everyone. Kim father deserves some respect. On Ira, nature has already specifically rested. And Eun, this is generally a clinic. What to expect from him, only God knows.

    Kim grandfather. In fact, Kim Il Sung was able to create a state that developed to some extent. And he did not make such sweeping statements.
    Kim son was already less predictable than father. The catastrophic famine of the mid-90s fell on his rule, from which the country was able to get out only a couple of years ago. With his son, military programs began to create nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles. Kim grandson - unfortunately even less predictable than father. Now he is more at risk than he is taking measures to improve the political climate on the peninsula.
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      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 10 August 2017 13: 45
        +2
        But Ir and Eun ... It is a pity the people deserve a better life.

        Well, if you are so sorry for the poor and unhappy North Koreans, then ask the Americans to leave this country alone and stop choking them with sanctions .. But at the same time, ask your government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to stop supporting these American sanctions .. Instead of blaming everything their leaders, of which you really don’t know anything .. And then they don’t need a nuclear bomb or missiles ..
        1. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov 10 August 2017 17: 26
          +2
          Gold words! Entirely and completely agree! (my comment above)
        2. alex86
          alex86 10 August 2017 20: 15
          +1
          Indeed, what’s to help them - let them rest in their bank, someday another Kim will decide that it is better to be able to modestly, but to go to Japan, than to "be the first in the village" in Pyongyang ...
  11. anjey
    anjey 10 August 2017 10: 43
    +1
    Quote: Nasr
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    And ours will support the USA, you will see ...

    Our people should always seek benefits for Russia, and what will happen to the Koreans - let the Koreans think ...

    An example of how our people stood up for the Bulgarians - and fought to the last Russian ... An example from the history of the USSR - who just didn’t do the “pleasant” - everyone turned away ... and tried to kick.
    I insist on protecting the interests of Russia, and not as the interests of the DPRK (they have their own leader - let him think)

    but my friend is fundamentally wrong, especially for such a large country as Russia, with a state development strategy - the "snail regime" is not acceptable, even in small Israel they don’t want to sit in their shells, everywhere they stuff their tentacles ...
  12. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 10 August 2017 11: 08
    +1
    Quote: xetai9977
    It seems to smell fried. This Eun has made everyone around him hate him. Even an ally of the PRC made it clear that he washes his hands.

    There will be no military aggression by the DPRK and they did not threaten anyone with aggression. The fact that the United States wants to destroy the weight of the people of the DPRK (UTB directly said Mathis) they have long known and prepared for it. Whether the people of the United States and their dominion South Korea are ready to bear the consequences of a nuclear war should be asked, but I think this will not happen and if it does happen, everyone will hate Trump.
    1. alex86
      alex86 10 August 2017 20: 21
      +1
      Quote: Kostadinov
      everyone will hate Trump.

      In this situation, in America everyone will rally around Trump, and they don’t give a damn about the rest (like everyone else)
  13. Old26
    Old26 10 August 2017 14: 19
    +1
    Quote: igorj 51
    Well, if you are so sorry for the poor and unhappy North Koreans, then ask the Americans to leave this country alone and stop choking them with sanctions .. But at the same time, ask your government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to stop supporting these American sanctions .. Instead of blaming everything their leaders, of which you really don’t know anything .. And then they don’t need a nuclear bomb or missiles ..

    Sanctions, sanctions. Strangulation by sanctions. And at least someone went to the UN website and read the text of these sanctions? In recent decades, the essence of these sanctions has been two words like this. A ban on the supply of materials and technologies that could be used in missile and nuclear programs. Prohibition of materials that could be used in the creation of rocket engines. Ban on the supply of equipment (navigation systems and control systems). which could allow an accuracy higher than 0,1% of range. To create missiles with a range of, for example, 500-700-1000 km (in order to get your closest enemy) - this is not particularly critical. But the long-range missiles - the quantity goes into quality. At a firing range of 10000 km - a miss will be already 10 km. That is, the rocket becomes meaningless
    Everything else was not prohibited. Food supplies have been going on since 1995, and continue to go. Between 1995 and 2011, the total volume of food supplies amounted to 12,39 million tons, of which 3,314 million were supplied by South Korea, 3,015 million tons were supplied by China, and 2,4 million tons were supplied by the United States. Is this strangulation called? There was a proposal (I’m not talking about the USSR, I don’t have one) from the USA to build an atomic station for it with two reactors with a capacity of 1000 MW each. Prior to the construction of the reactor, the United States intended to supply North Korea with heating oil for its thermal power plants. With one condition. Stop your military nuclear program. At first, the DPRK agreed, and when it saw that fuel oil was being supplied, it decided, and why not show the fig to the Americans. And she began to slowly restore her nuclear program. Considered yourself the smartest, and others fools? The Americans stopped the supply of fuel oil. You wouldn’t do that when you are being deceived

    So all the talk about sanctions, about strangulation by sanctions is a pointless conversation. Most of the sanctions are limited by the actions of certain North Korean corporations and banks associated with military programs. There would be no them, there would be no sanctions against the DPRK
    1. igorj 51
      igorj 51 10 August 2017 17: 50
      +2
      Sanctions, sanctions. Strangulation by sanctions. And at least someone went to the UN website and read the text of these sanctions? In recent decades, the essence of these sanctions has been two words like this. A ban on the supply of materials and technologies that could be used in missile and nuclear programs.

      Well, go in and read the text of all these sanctions .. I've read .. besides the ban on the sale of materials and technologies for missile and nuclear programs, the ban on the sale of almost TOTAL, including some types of medicines, including insulin for example, and even some types of food , some varieties of margarine, and so on and so forth ... Even a ban on the sale of certain types of musical instruments. Tell me WHAT are insulin for example, and certain varieties of margarine, or, say, musical instruments, have a relation to missile and nuclear programs .. Just recently, it even came to such insanity:
      https://politeka.net/news/474326-sanktsii-ssha-u-
      hokkeistov-otobrali-klyushki-i-yabloki /
      Athletes from North Korea came to the competition in the second division, armed with wooden clubs, which are practically not used in professional sports and are considered low-tech.

      Therefore, the organizers presented them with carbon fiber equipment, which North Korean athletes used during the competition.

      However, due to the sanctions imposed on North Korea by the United States, hockey players had to leave clubs in New Zealand. According to restrictions signed by Barack Obama in 2016, sports equipment is included in the list of luxury goods and cannot be delivered to North Korea.

      Also, chocolate and apples were seized from the players, and were forbidden to exchange badges with national team symbols with athletes from other teams. “The icons, of course, are very small, but the security services and customs were extremely attentive to this,” explained the Secretary General of the New Zealand National Hockey Federation Jonathan Albright.

      Those. You, as always, do not even own information on this issue, but undertake to say something ..
      So all the talk about sanctions, about strangulation by sanctions is a pointless conversation. Most of the sanctions are limited by the actions of certain North Korean corporations and banks associated with military programs. There would be no them, there would be no sanctions against the DPRK

      That's exactly what you are engaging in a pointless conversation. And do not even own information on this issue.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 10 August 2017 18: 01
        +2
        Quote: igorj 51
        including certain types of medications, including insulin for example

        It’s quite predictable that the United States is a “wolf in the guise of a sheep” and it doesn’t “give a damn” to the people of this (and other) country; they are just “instruments” for it by means of pressure on which it wants to provoke protests against the legitimate authority, as the USA acted in all countries overthrew the government.
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 10 August 2017 18: 19
          +3
          It’s quite predictable that the United States is a “wolf in the guise of a sheep” and it doesn’t “give a damn” about the people of this (and other) country; they are just “tools” for it by means of pressure on which it wants to cause protests against the legitimate authority

          So this is the point ..! Only to shame and shame, both your country and mine are voting in the UN Security Council for these American sanctions .. And what can I call all this ..? I personally do not have censorship words, drooling and those swear words .. :)
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 10 August 2017 20: 51
            +1
            Quote: igorj 51
            Only to shame and shame, both your country and mine are voting in the UN Security Council for these American sanctions .. And what can I call all this ..? I personally do not have censorship words, drooling and those swear words .. :)

            I completely agree otherwise than "betrayal" of the vote against the people of the DPRK, I can not name.
    2. igorj 51
      igorj 51 10 August 2017 18: 24
      +1
      There was a proposal (I’m not talking about the USSR, I don’t have one) from the USA to build an atomic station for it with two reactors with a capacity of 1000 MW each. Prior to the construction of the reactor, the United States intended to supply North Korea with heating oil for its thermal power plants. With one condition. Stop your military nuclear program. At first, the DPRK agreed, and when it saw that fuel oil was being supplied, it decided, and why not show the fig to the Americans. And she began to slowly restore her nuclear program.

      As always, you heard a ringing but don’t know where it is .. :)) That is they heard or read something but don’t know anything in detail but you have your own authoritative opinion .. well, read on the internet about the framework agreement between the DPRK and the USA from 1994 .. By the way, in the 94th year the USSR was not even mentioned .. But you still managed to put everything together in one pile .. :))))
  14. keeper03
    keeper03 10 August 2017 14: 55
    +2
    It's time to give the Americans the teeth, especially since they themselves run into! I hope we will not rust !!! hi soldier
    1. Nikolai Petrov
      Nikolai Petrov 10 August 2017 17: 30
      +3
      As for "for us," no one guarantees an answer (look at the Donbass), but for the DPRK (they have nowhere to go), I think that it will not rust. But no one knows how this whole epic will end.
    2. igorj 51
      igorj 51 10 August 2017 18: 13
      +4
      It's time to give the Americans the teeth, especially since they themselves run into! I hope we will not rust !!!

      I don’t know for us, not sure. But for Eun, it’s just not going to rust. if they bring him of course .. He has his own accounts with the Americans ...
  15. Quetzalcoatl
    Quetzalcoatl 10 August 2017 17: 31
    +1
    It is high time) to squalid the wretched with the earth, the main thing is that missiles fall into the South Korean missile defense. and how much KPDR sheep is needed for this - it doesn’t matter to me)
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 10 August 2017 18: 18
      +2
      South Korean goods would gain an increase in competitiveness due to the cheap price of energy carriers (quality not inferior to Japanese, the price not exceeding Chinese), and the Great Silk Road in the form of a trans-Eurasian railway, and the road would start from South Korea.

      Are the Chinese to blame or the Kremlin is blunt or the South Koreans are stupid?
    2. Nikolai Petrov
      Nikolai Petrov 10 August 2017 19: 27
      +3
      “Poor,” you’ll excuse me, but you don’t stand dust from the boot of a DPRK soldier. And about getting into the missile defense system, I dare to ask, would you intercept North Korean missiles? So, being in Mother Russia, sit better quietly, and pray that you will not remember inadvertently the five-columned evil spirits
  16. Old26
    Old26 10 August 2017 22: 03
    0
    Quote: igorj 51
    Sanctions, sanctions. Strangulation by sanctions. And at least someone went to the UN website and read the text of these sanctions? In recent decades, the essence of these sanctions has been two words like this. A ban on the supply of materials and technologies that could be used in missile and nuclear programs.

    Well, go in and read the text of all these sanctions .. I've read .. besides the ban on the sale of materials and technologies for missile and nuclear programs, the ban on the sale of almost TOTAL, including some types of medicines, including insulin for example, and even some types of food , some varieties of margarine, and so on and so forth ... Even a ban on the sale of certain types of musical instruments. Tell me WHAT are insulin for example, and certain varieties of margarine, or, say, musical instruments, have a relation to missile and nuclear programs .. Just recently, it even came to such insanity:
    https://politeka.net/news/474326-sanktsii-ssha-u-
    hokkeistov-otobrali-klyushki-i-yabloki /
    Athletes from North Korea came to the competition in the second division, armed with wooden clubs, which are practically not used in professional sports and are considered low-tech.

    Therefore, the organizers presented them with carbon fiber equipment, which North Korean athletes used during the competition.

    However, due to the sanctions imposed on North Korea by the United States, hockey players had to leave clubs in New Zealand. According to restrictions signed by Barack Obama in 2016, sports equipment is included in the list of luxury goods and cannot be delivered to North Korea.

    Also, chocolate and apples were seized from the players, and were forbidden to exchange badges with national team symbols with athletes from other teams. “The icons, of course, are very small, but the security services and customs were extremely attentive to this,” explained the Secretary General of the New Zealand National Hockey Federation Jonathan Albright.

    Those. You, as always, do not even own information on this issue, but undertake to say something ..
    So all the talk about sanctions, about strangulation by sanctions is a pointless conversation. Most of the sanctions are limited by the actions of certain North Korean corporations and banks associated with military programs. There would be no them, there would be no sanctions against the DPRK

    That's exactly what you are engaging in a pointless conversation. And do not even own information on this issue.

    Do you distinguish between UN and US sanctions? Looks like no.

    Quote: igorj 51
    As always, you heard a ringing but don’t know where it is .. :)) That is they heard or read something but don’t know anything in detail but you have your own authoritative opinion .. well, read on the internet about the framework agreement between the DPRK and the USA from 1994 .. By the way, in the 94th year the USSR was not even mentioned .. But you still managed to put everything together in one pile .. :))))

    I am well aware of framework agreements. But if you were in the know, you would know that before these events, the USSR was initially ready to build a nuclear power plant with 4 VVER-440 units, and then the project was somewhat modernized and instead of 4 VVER-440 units it was planned to build nuclear power plants from 3 VVER-640 blocks. So she should say this to her interlocutor right away that she had not only heard something. And you - well, you all know.