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The words of the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs about the reduction of dollar dependence caused controversy among experts

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A broad discussion was aroused by the comment by Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov on the latest package of anti-Russian sanctions imposed by the United States. In an interview with a magazine "International Life" Ryabkov spoke about how the American sanctions will affect Russia's contacts with the United States and the vector of Russia's economic dynamics. Before recalling the statement by Sergei Ryabkov, it is worth noting that the international rating agency S&P for the first time refused to downgrade Russia's sovereign credit rating after the introduction of new economic restrictions on the RF from the West.

Statements by the Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation:
Of course, we are stepping up work related to import substitution, reducing some kind of dependence on American payment systems, on the dollar as a calculated currency, and so on. Now it becomes an imperative.


The words of the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs about the reduction of dollar dependence caused controversy among experts


Economic experts have differently evaluated Ryabkov’s statement about reducing dependence on the dollar as a calculated currency. According to some, a significant increase in the gold reserves of the Russian Federation suggests that Russia is really going to return the economic model of the world to binding not to unsecured paper, but to goods and services. Others believe that the statement of the MFA official in the present conditions is no more than populism, since the global market is sharpened precisely on the calculation in dollars, and Russia has long been part of this very market.
At the same time, all economists point out that the main step towards abandoning the use of American payment systems with the introduction of the payment system MIR Russia has already taken and may not stop there, resisting the sanctions policy of the West.

According to economists, the Bank of Russia’s requirement for international rating agencies to establish their representative offices in the Russian Federation and publish transparent reports on rating assignments is another factor in reducing the dependence of the Russian Federation.
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  1. Pirogov
    Pirogov 9 August 2017 16: 31
    +10
    It’s high time how much America can be kept.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 9 August 2017 16: 33
      +10
      the point is that when the Russian Federation and Iran do so, it’s like a crumbling elephant. It’s better to let BRICS under this business - and if you rub it with the Arabs - but it’s visible dreams
      1. Vend
        Vend 9 August 2017 16: 36
        +7
        It seems to me that this statement is like a litmus test. Find out who is who.
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 August 2017 16: 40
          +1
          That's for sure, because many only "whisper" much.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 9 August 2017 17: 06
            +9
            There is not even a whisper so much as a “headphone”. wink
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 9 August 2017 17: 17
              +1
              According to economists, the Bank of Russia’s requirement for international rating agencies to establish their representative offices in the Russian Federation and publish transparent reports on rating assignments is another factor in reducing the dependence of the Russian Federation.

              Actually, you need to promote your rating agencies together with China, for example.
              1. cniza
                cniza 9 August 2017 19: 33
                +1
                Quote: Jedi
                There is not even a whisper so much as a “headphone”. wink


                Whatever you call, but they hide the language in one place right away when it comes to business.
            2. dorz
              dorz 9 August 2017 17: 25
              +3
              The profit of VISA and Mastercard in Russia is more than $ 700 million. Why pay the bourgeois?
      2. cniza
        cniza 9 August 2017 16: 37
        +4
        BRICS is weak for now, but later it will definitely connect.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 9 August 2017 17: 21
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          BRICS is weak for now, but later it will definitely connect.
          That's it wink
          According to the Minister of Economic Development Maxim Oreshkin, the transition of the BRICS countries, in particular Russia and China, to payments in national currency may occur in the near future. In the meantime, the minister voiced such an impressive fact: by 2020, trade between Russia and the Middle Kingdom can reach $ 200 billion.

          Meanwhile, on the sidelines of the Shanghai summit, the details of creating a new monetary system, excluding the use of the dollar, were discussed within the organization. Back in 2015, Vladimir Putin said: “We made decisions on the wider use of national currencies in economic exchanges. We have created special currency pools with some countries. For example, our central banks exchanged appropriate volumes of resources with China, organized a swap. I think that and the same development with India, Brazil, and South Africa would be interesting. "
          1. tamnun
            tamnun 9 August 2017 19: 24
            0
            Quote: You Vlad
            In the meantime, the minister voiced such an impressive fact: by 2020, trade between Russia and the Middle Kingdom can reach $ 200 billion

            nor real
            Now the end of 2017 for 2 years to increase by 160 billion belay
            According to the Main Customs Administration of the PRC, according to the results of January-May 2017, the trade turnover between Russia and China amounted to $ 32,3 billion., or 26,1% more than the same period last year.
            Exports from China to Russia grew by 15,9%, amounting to $ 15,4 billion; imports to China grew by 30% to $ 16,9 billion. In May, Chinese goods worth $ 3,7 billion were exported to Russia. imports from Russia to China amounted to $ 3,89 billion
            Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2017/06/08/torgovlya-
            Rossii-i-kitaya-prodolzhaet-rasti-s-dinamikoy-26.
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 9 August 2017 16: 37
        +21
        It would be "like an elephant pellet", then such a screech would not be raised. Gaddafi generally banged for this. Dashing trouble began, and the instigators are punished.
      4. Logall
        Logall 9 August 2017 16: 39
        +19
        Quote: c-Petrov
        the point is that when the Russian Federation and Iran do so, it’s like a crumbling elephant. It’s better to let BRICS under this business - and if you rub it with the Arabs - but it’s visible dreams

        China and Russia are paying in national currency. We are talking about this with India. To tighten Brazil and everything as in Gazprom, dreams ...
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 9 August 2017 16: 40
          +1
          China and Russia are paying in national currency.


          turnover, as I understand it, is not very large yet.

          Tighten Brazil and everything as in Gazprom


          Brazil has already been pulled, but not to us. Who is to us - like in court now hi
      5. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 16: 41
        +4
        Quote: c-Petrov
        the point is that when the Russian Federation and Iran do so, it’s like a crumbling elephant. It’s better to let BRICS under this business - and if you rub it with the Arabs - but it’s visible dreams

        Going away from the dollar is not real of course, but the main thing is that work in this direction is ongoing and it is very pleasing .. It is because of this that the West has taken up arms against Russia! India, China, with these countries, I can revolutionize finances and throw off a rotten and unsecured dollar .. It may even have to fight, but it's worth it .. The world will breathe a sigh of relief!
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 9 August 2017 16: 42
          +3
          China vryatli wants to bring down $. Too much of his wealth is tied to him, and too much omerika owes him $
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 9 August 2017 17: 26
            +4
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            China vryatli wants to bring down $. Too much of his wealth is tied to him, and too much omerika owes him $

            Collapse the dollar is not profitable for anyone except the United States! It is beneficial for us and China to make the dollar a regional currency! Let them trade their papers overseas there!
            1. DOCTOR ZLO
              DOCTOR ZLO 9 August 2017 20: 22
              +1
              Quote: you Vlad
              Collapse the dollar is not profitable for anyone except the United States! It is beneficial for us and China to make the dollar a regional currency! Let them trade their papers overseas there!

              Logically, you can understand that a strong dollar is beneficial primarily to the PRC and the Russian Federation (the largest / some of the largest holders of US bonds) ....
              Everything else is empty chatter ...
              If there were more profitable bonds in the world, we would have bought them already ...
        2. Vita vko
          Vita vko 9 August 2017 16: 52
          0
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          The main thing is that work in this direction is ongoing and it is very pleasing.

          The statement by Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov is completely untrue. Russia remains one of the leading creditors of the American economy and it is unlikely that in the near future the situation on the US securities market will somehow change.
          At the end of June, Russia increased its investment in US Treasury bonds to $ 90,9 billion. Over the month, the indicator grew by three percent. This is evidenced by the data of the United States Treasury Department, posted on the agency’s website on Tuesday, August 16.
          https://lenta.ru/news/2016/08/16/treasuries/
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 9 August 2017 16: 59
            +3
            Quote: Vita VKO
            https://lenta.ru/news/2016/08/16/treasuries/


            "Tape", and even from 16.08.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX - the "more reliable and truthful" source is difficult to find.
            1. Vita vko
              Vita vko 9 August 2017 17: 04
              0
              Quote: B.T.W.
              more reliable and truthful "the source is difficult to find.

              so refute, why talk in vain, people strain their eyesight.
              1. B.T.V.
                B.T.V. 9 August 2017 17: 11
                +1
                Quote: Vita VKO
                so refute


                I don’t remember switching to “you”.
                Quote: Vita VKO


                you strain your eyesight.


                So do not strain, who is forcing ?!

                Refute last year’s snow ?!
              2. Muvka
                Muvka 9 August 2017 17: 38
                0
                And what to refute then? Our money there is 100 billion. Do you seriously think that we are one of the largest? Not even funny.
              3. Lena Petrova
                Lena Petrova 9 August 2017 19: 58
                +3
                The Russian Federation holds 25% of the reserve in dollars. Reserves are increasing, and the amount itself is increasing. So far, holding bonds is safer than holding a bank. It will not work to arrest the amount, since we owe much more so far, and we can safely write off the entire amount to pay off debts.
          2. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 18: 50
            +2
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            The main thing is that work in this direction is ongoing and it is very pleasing.

            The statement by Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov is completely untrue. Russia remains one of the leading creditors of the American economy and it is unlikely that in the near future the situation on the US securities market will somehow change.
            At the end of June, Russia increased its investment in US Treasury bonds to $ 90,9 billion. Over the month, the indicator grew by three percent. This is evidenced by the data of the United States Treasury Department, posted on the agency’s website on Tuesday, August 16.
            https://lenta.ru/news/2016/08/16/treasuries/

            Well, what are you so immediately distracted ...? I wrote that work is being done in this direction .. What I am absolutely sure of is that for most of the population of Russia the dollar, oil, stocks, Dow Jones index, etc. violet and we played it all in one place .. Until we endure, seeing that our Army and Navy are recovering all the same .. That's the main thing at the moment .. And we’ll have world courses if we can change anything at any time ... Experience is available for our story!
            1. AleksPol
              AleksPol 9 August 2017 22: 35
              +4
              Vitaly spelled correctly and that dollar, that euro is purple. I get a salary in rubles. and for now, I’m not complaining about poverty.
      6. APASUS
        APASUS 9 August 2017 17: 16
        +3
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        the point is that when the Russian Federation and Iran do so, it’s like a crumbling elephant

        The dollar turnover of funds in the oil and gas industry of Russia on an annualized basis is equal to around a trillion dollars.
        This is such a serious shot! This is not taking into account Iran.
        I believe it is precisely because of the influence of the United States in Russia that we still don’t sell oil and gas for rubles, the Americans are lobbying their interests competently, and we still have coal, wood, and how much can we trade for rubles. There was talk about the opening of an exchange in St. Petersburg, but all the projects remained projects !!!
      7. kapitan92
        kapitan92 9 August 2017 18: 09
        +5
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        It’s better to put BRICS under this business - it’ll be better -

        And what is BRICS ??? Today is a "stillborn child." There is a lot of noise - a little sense. The desk is weak!
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        and if you rub it with the Arabs - but it’s visible dreams

        God forbid !!!
      8. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 9 August 2017 20: 14
        +1
        Quote: c-Petrov
        the point is that when the Russian Federation and Iran do so, it’s like a crumbling elephant. It’s better to let BRICS under this business - and if you rub it with the Arabs - but it’s visible dreams

        The point is that no one will give up the dollar and will support it. Under Stalin, up to 1500 enterprises were opened a year, there was one powerful bank that obeyed the state and worked for the state, then you can not give a damn about the dollar. In the current situation, when the dollar is the main world currency, it makes no sense to compete with the US with our economy and government. China will not bring down the dollar by investing trillions in it. We also have a lot of money in US bonds. Moreover, the Americans themselves, with their external debt, themselves can bring down their currency.
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 9 August 2017 16: 40
      +1
      pirogov, you’re our "breadwinner" ... do not compare their economy with GDP and ours - the difference is simply indecent (for us) ... and our money in their bonds is only about 200 lard ... for the states it’s just psyk ...
      Now, if China, Japan and other major investors would say such a thing, THAT ... then the Yankees did a big job ... but this is from the realm of fantasy ...
      1. Monos
        Monos 9 August 2017 16: 52
        +14
        Quote: kepmor
        . Compare their economy with GDP.

        You tell a story about American GDP to others. Their GDP is largely comprised of securities transactions, revalued shares of campaigns such as Google, Facebook, and Apple and the service industry. That is, the same blown bubble as the whole economy.
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 9 August 2017 17: 02
          +3
          monos, you know better from the "pink clouds" ... just for general development, take a look at the capitalization of their industrial companies, such as a Boeing with Microsoft, a general electric with Coca-Cola ... and compare it with our "giant pumps" like Gazprom and Rosneft ... we would have such "bubbles" ...
          By the way, securities in our GDP are no less occupied ...
          so which of us is a "storyteller" ???????? ...
          1. Monos
            Monos 9 August 2017 18: 47
            +6
            Quote: kepmor
            industrial companies such as Boeing with microsoftGeneral Electric with Coca-Cola

            Still have "industrial" campaigns? Let me guess ... Disney Land, Facebook, and, of course, McDonald's. laughing
            Capitalization is the same financial “bubble”.
            1. tamnun
              tamnun 9 August 2017 19: 34
              0
              Quote: Monos
              Still have "industrial" campaigns? Let me guess ... Disney Land, Facebook, and, of course, McDonald's

              Faetastic nonsense
              Over 400t people work at McDonald's in the world, annual income of over $ 40 billion
              Disneyland of the USA and Paris is visited by over 30 million people a year
              Facebook
              Facebook revenue in the IV quarter of 2016 grew better than expected, from $ 5,84 billion a year earlier to $ 8,81 billion, up 51% with an average forecast of $ 8,51 billion, Bloomberg reports. The growth driver was the promotion of advertising for mobile users. Mobile advertising accounted for about 84% of all quarterly revenue. Facebook has strengthened its position in the mobile advertising market, the company ranks second after Google

              Quote: Monos
              Capitalization is the same financial “bubble”.

              belay
              1. Monos
                Monos 9 August 2017 19: 49
                +4
                [quote = tamnun] [/ quote]
                My dear, if you carry nonsense to you with such a surprise ( belay ) face will have to live a lifetime. smile
                If you did not pay attention, we talked about industry, not about clowns and shinkars.
                1. tamnun
                  tamnun 9 August 2017 19: 58
                  0
                  Quote: Monos
                  Quote: tamnun

                  My dear, if you carry nonsense to you with such a surprise ( belay ) face will have to live a lifetime. smile
                  If you did not pay attention, we talked about industry, not about clowns and shinkars.

                  Industry?
                  Is McDonald's not an industry? Nobody grows anything for McDonalds? Doesn't release equipment? Do not build restaurants? Doesn't make furniture? No ads?
                  McDonald's (as an example) - this is more than industry - it is the customer and determines the direction in the development of many industries
                  DisneyLand?
                  Is tourism an industry?
                  3,3 million foreigners visited Russia in 2016 for tourism

                  And DisneyLand - 30 million !!!!
                  Quote: Monos
                  and not about clowns and shinkars.

                  Baby talk.
                  1. Monos
                    Monos 9 August 2017 20: 20
                    +5
                    Strong, very strong winked Are you, my dear, generally able to distinguish a real industrial product that a person needs from imposed services? Disney Land ... 30 Mullen ... Damn production! But to whom am I explaining !? A Jew, a descendant of those same shinkars and brothel possessors. Continue (don't stop) eating kosher dollar. laughing
                    1. tamnun
                      tamnun 9 August 2017 20: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: Monos
                      Strong, very strong Are you, dear, generally able to distinguish a real industrial product that a person needs from imposed services?

                      Nobody imposes services. The Internet provider did not put a gun at your temple for you - this is your personal desire to use it or not. Disneyland, McDonald's - these are not vital things for a person - nevertheless, he uses them with great pleasure.
                      Is it possible for you to issue a galoshes (nobody needs anyone) - is this an industry?
                      These enterprises fulfill the wishes and needs of the population in volumes, compared with which Gazprom and its income are babble
                      Quote: Monos
                      30 mulenov ... Fucking production!

                      Yes, much more profit, tax deductions to the budget, etc. etc. than Rosneft
                      The net profit of the state company Rosneft in 2016 decreased by half and amounted to 181 billion rubles. This is stated in the report on the company's website.

                      3 billion dollars.
                      Apple - 124 billion dollars.
                      Have questions ?
                      Quote: Monos
                      But to whom am I explaining !? Jew

                      Really.
                      Better tell Maduro fairy tales - he will like it.
                      1. Monos
                        Monos 9 August 2017 20: 42
                        +6
                        To end the discussion ... With Kepmorwe talked about GDP (gross domestic product product), and you are crucifying about the dollar money supply circulating in the US economy. Two transactions per day on the stock exchange for the same shares double the budget for taxes from these transactions and increase GDP (well, they count it), but the real product do not give! If you do not understand this, then there is nothing to talk about with you. hi
        2. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 19: 02
          +2
          Quote: Monos
          Quote: kepmor
          . Compare their economy with GDP.

          You tell a story about American GDP to others. Their GDP is largely comprised of securities transactions, revalued shares of campaigns such as Google, Facebook, and Apple and the service industry. That is, the same blown bubble as the whole economy.

          All right blown bubble! Our Gazprom, with all the fields with communications equipment, is almost in the last place in their ranking .. Just imagine and compare the men ... This is horror and injustice! And Russia in general on creditworthiness, etc. Below the skirting board Karl! With our natural resources and vast territories .. How do they calculate .. hehe! Do not listen to our liberals, with our riches you can survive a couple of perestroika humpback restructures ..)))) But this will not happen! negative
          1. tamnun
            tamnun 9 August 2017 19: 41
            +1
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            All right blown bubble! Our Gazprom, with all fields with communications equipment in their ranking, is almost in last place

            What is so surprising?
            Gazprom’s profit in the second quarter of 2016 decreased by 19 times compared to the second quarter of 2015 - from 137 to 7,2 billion rubles. This is evidenced by the calculations of Interfax experts based on company data.

            i.e. from 2,5 billion bucks to 150 million
            $ 150 million - Gazprom revenues
            The largest company in Russia in terms of revenue for 2016 according to Expert magazine [3].

            The share of disposable gas reserves is 17% of the world and 72% of the Russian. Gazprom accounts for 11% of global and 66% of Russian gas production.

            Gazprom owns the world's largest gas transmission system, with a total length of more than 170 thousand km
            number of employees
            459,6 thousand

            $ 150 million a year in revenue. request
            so for the sake of example.
            The total amount received from the sale of iPhone for 2015 amounted to about 154 billion dollars.

            Apple revenues, just like 1000 Gazprom.
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            .Just imagine the men and compare ... This is horror and injustice!

            Horror and justice.
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 20: 45
              +2
              Quote: tamnun
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              All right blown bubble! Our Gazprom, with all fields with communications equipment in their ranking, is almost in last place

              What is so surprising?
              Gazprom’s profit in the second quarter of 2016 decreased by 19 times compared to the second quarter of 2015 - from 137 to 7,2 billion rubles. This is evidenced by the calculations of Interfax experts based on company data.

              i.e. from 2,5 billion bucks to 150 million
              $ 150 million - Gazprom revenues
              The largest company in Russia in terms of revenue for 2016 according to Expert magazine [3].

              The share of disposable gas reserves is 17% of the world and 72% of the Russian. Gazprom accounts for 11% of global and 66% of Russian gas production.

              Gazprom owns the world's largest gas transmission system, with a total length of more than 170 thousand km
              number of employees
              459,6 thousand

              $ 150 million a year in revenue. request
              so for the sake of example.
              The total amount received from the sale of iPhone for 2015 amounted to about 154 billion dollars.

              Apple revenues, just like 1000 Gazprom.
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              .Just imagine the men and compare ... This is horror and injustice!

              Horror and justice.

              Well, in this you can’t argue unambiguously .. The Wikipedia is in your hands, and this is already the Bible for everyone! hi
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 9 August 2017 17: 03
        +7
        Quote: kepmor
        do not make me laugh

        The foreign trade turnover of Russia in 2016 amounted to 471,2 billion dollars. This roughly corresponds to the US defense budget. Even if these volumes will simply go to strengthen the Russian currency and other national currencies in mutual settlements, the impact on $ will be very serious, especially since our trading partners will also have to rebuild their market, which means that the commodity supply of American greens will decrease significantly. Given the gigantic US debt, the kick to the abyss for the US economy is very serious.
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 9 August 2017 17: 14
          +1
          Vita + VKO, maybe you’re right ... only WHO and abroad will decide on this?
          if we climb alone with “drafts on tanks”, then the DPRK’s fate will be guaranteed to us ... are you personally ready for this? ... you don’t need to speak for oligarchs and officials ...
      3. kapitan92
        kapitan92 9 August 2017 18: 13
        +4
        Quote: kepmor
        .da and our money in their bonds is only about 200 lard ..

        A little less!
        Quote: kepmor
        Now, if China, Japan and other major investors would have said such a thing, then ... then the Yankees managed a lot.

        No matter how We managed it, when the States "freeze" our grandmothers stored in American banks, here we have fun together. hi
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 9 August 2017 16: 45
      +5
      Now it is becoming an urgent need.

      It became an urgent need three years ago, and since 1999, since the death of Yugoslavia, it’s just a necessity. We believe in the honesty and dignity of the “partners”. what
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 9 August 2017 16: 57
        +5
        We would have hinted about this in the 90s - we would have spread it on the wall and not looked at the nuclear weapons.

        my opinion of course. I don’t really know how. but it seems to me they really relaxed in the 90s, and it’s good that it was so. They would have finished off not by military intervention - so economically.

        And so in the 90s they actively credited us. Type help wretched and even remove the cream. What can these Russians - they will continue to sit on our grants and loans from the IMF - but then Volodya came and told everyone

        And time began to work for us, still the price for a barrel of 120, and even industrial production began to rise. In general, we really needed time

    4. 23424636
      23424636 9 August 2017 16: 59
      +3
      while Jews are in power in the Kremlin, this will simply be a throw-in to improve the percentage of rollbacks on transactions with American banks. Why even talk about it if you just started making payments through World cards and before that, all the salaries and pensions until the moment of cash-out in Russia went to the USA ( visa.) and the EU (Eurocard) For this it would be necessary to plant a couple of clowns from the Central Bank forever. but this is "our partners"
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 9 August 2017 17: 20
        +4
        countries, however ... where did you see the Jews in the Kremlin? ...
        and why do we Russians always get in the way of a normal life? ... either Jews, then Obamych, now here is a ramp that is not ours ...
        right ... the mirror is always to blame, not the physics of the face ...
        1. Monos
          Monos 9 August 2017 18: 59
          +7
          Quote: kepmor
          and why do we Russians always stop someone from living normally?

          And here I agree with you. In the end, for me, a Russian, it sounds insulting when they tell me that the Jews (or someone else) decide how I should live.
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 19: 49
            +1
            Quote: Monos
            Quote: kepmor
            and why do we Russians always stop someone from living normally?

            And here I agree with you. In the end, for me, a Russian, it sounds insulting when they tell me that the Jews (or someone else) decide how I should live.

            I’m not anti-Semite, but they can’t be categorically allowed into politics and finances in Russia, they immediately suffer a lot of blood and devastation at once trying to grab it all at once .. (Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich, etc.) After their exile by Putin, Russia relatively sighed and began to revive ... After all, it turns out that our thieves in London are also a lot! How much money was pumped out of Russia by the USSR, it’s terrible when people were literally starving .. I read Prokhanov’s essays today ... Eh Russia is a difficult fate for us ...
            We need PEACE, and preferably all! (the inscription on the helmet of the commandos ..)
  2. demo
    demo 9 August 2017 16: 38
    +2
    I am not an expert and not an expert.
    What Russia will do and the code is all the more unknown to me.
    But from my point of view, making statements of this kind to an employee of the Russian Foreign Ministry is to show his incomplete professional suitability.
    Such a statement should be made either by the Minister of Finance or from the chairman of the Central Bank, or from the head of government.
    It would be necessary for Sergey Lavrov to hold an internal meeting and to place accents.
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 August 2017 16: 42
      +6
      Politics thing is “thin”, this is the so-called “trial” ball ...
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 9 August 2017 16: 42
      +5
      Quote: demo
      Such a statement should be made either by the Minister of Finance or from the chairman of the Central Bank, or from the head of government.
      It would be necessary for Sergey Lavrov to hold an internal meeting and to place accents.

      And if this "test stone" and thrown with the knowledge of the Ministry? The circles will definitely go, so you need to look at how far.
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 9 August 2017 17: 08
        +9
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        The circles will definitely go, so you need to look at how far.

        Moreover, the circles will go not by water, but by waste products. wink
        1. Logall
          Logall 9 August 2017 17: 32
          +15
          Can pockets be full of holes? Will there be no money?
          Where do they hide the printing press? Fill up to edrenefen ...
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 9 August 2017 19: 49
            +10
            Sasha, take your time. wink Everything has its time and its place in this life. yes
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 20: 53
              +1
              Quote: Jedi
              Sasha, take your time. wink Everything has its time and its place in this life. yes

              The printing press of dollars, here it is the main resident of the world's evil .. Protect it very tough! He works to the limit, printing pieces of paper for which blood is shed and states are sacked, while the small ones ... Russia is the first on the list of annihilation, and we are against .. hehe
  3. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 August 2017 16: 40
    0
    It will supply Russia with oil and gas for rubles, regardless of the exchange rate of the euro and the dollar.
    1. hrych
      hrych 9 August 2017 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      will supply oil and gas for rubles

      No for gold
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 9 August 2017 16: 49
        +3
        yes or let them look for rubles and redeem them in order to pay for the goods wassat
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 9 August 2017 16: 55
          0
          Quote: c-Petrov
          yes or let them look for rubles and redeem them in order to pay for the goods wassat

          But then the ruble will strengthen, and now it is not profitable for us.
        2. Kondratko
          Kondratko 9 August 2017 17: 01
          0
          Trading for rubles will quickly strengthen our currency, which is not particularly profitable for Russia. It would be fun to look at the physiognomy of Europeans and merikatos, obliging them to pay for goods purchased from us in rubles.
  4. mahoney
    mahoney 9 August 2017 16: 49
    0
    Ordinary Russians just do not get any more dollars, but those in power have the opposite)
  5. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 9 August 2017 17: 02
    +10
    The direction is right.
    This cut paper from the debtor state inspires confidence only because the majority buys and sells it.
    This is just a piece of paper. Not secured.
    ... that is, like a picture of Chagall or Malevich - if there is a buyer, then it costs a lot of money, if not - just a daub ...
  6. 3vs
    3vs 9 August 2017 17: 06
    0
    According to aliexpress, this is not yet visible - they convert rubles into green paper and then the goods are paid ...
    Waiting, sir!
  7. Ksenia
    Ksenia 9 August 2017 17: 07
    +2
    I am not an economist. But it seems to me that if it had worked out for us, then others would have started to pull themselves up.
  8. JonnyT
    JonnyT 9 August 2017 17: 17
    +1
    "This has caused controversy between experts ......"
    But what about our villas on the Cote d'Azur, kids in Cambridge, Eurodollars in offshore ????
    Have you thought about this ???? They wanted to deprive everyone of the stolen overwork !!!!!
    Must be endured! (c) experts
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 August 2017 17: 28
      0
      And how many of these villas and children in foreign universities - two thousand three, by force.
  9. Panzermensch
    Panzermensch 9 August 2017 17: 28
    +2
    And how do they intend to do this? laughing So far, neither a Western, a southern, nor a northern, nor an Eastern company, on whose imports the economy and industry of the Russian Federation critically depends, is accepting. laughing
  10. midshipman
    midshipman 9 August 2017 17: 31
    +4
    Remember the beginning of the 80s, dol. USA cost 60 kopecks. And then we lived in conditions of sanctions. They developed industry, everyone had a job, and began to build housing for workers. And then not a single official left to live abroad.
    But at present, our ministers: foreign affairs (trump card), agricultural minister (secretary), the first president of the USSR (labeled) and others live in the United States, Germany, and France. This is not in any country. I have the honor.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 9 August 2017 17: 42
      +1
      What kind of kindergarten? Always amused by people who write that in the USSR there was a dollar of 60 cents. So what? And then the salaries were 120 rubles, and not 15000. You can even now make the dollar cost a penny. Only you will receive 2,5 rubles. And what will change from this?
      1. Panzermensch
        Panzermensch 9 August 2017 17: 57
        +2
        Remember the ancestors - lived in a cave, fired fire themselves. We need a weapon - went broke a stick, scored a boar, and here is the food. There is housing, food, too. What else does a person need for happiness.
  11. vlad007
    vlad007 9 August 2017 17: 43
    +1
    You need to earn what you can earn more - dollars, euros, yuan, etc.
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 9 August 2017 17: 55
    0
    And what is Mr. Ryabkov already replacing the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance with us? Where did such statements come from? Why are Nabiullina and Siluanov silent about it like a fish on ice?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 9 August 2017 18: 17
      0
      We need to move away from the dollar and switch to national currency in mutual trade with other countries and do it as soon as possible because we still do not fully understand and fly in the clouds that the USA Israel the EU are our "friends" although this is far from the case - they are our opponents to say the least.
      Radically but impracticable
      Sergey Mironov: it’s not even about counter-sanctions, but about saving our money
  13. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 9 August 2017 18: 32
    0
    If you look back at history after the end of the war, the USSR in 1950 refused to be tied to the dollar to the great displeasure of the United States and transferred the ruble to a permanent gold base. (Then 1 gram of gold cost 4 r 45 kopecks.) The rapid recovery of industry, the development of new industries, space, nuclear energy, the absence of any crises, and this is for some 10 years.
    1. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 9 August 2017 21: 03
      0
      The USSR rushed from the ashes immediately into space and a nuclear power ... That was a jerk! And now they are robbing us, not like in the 90s, but still .. And the loss of everything is worse than in the 41st! There are developments, but there aren’t enough capacities and resources, especially human resources .. The states are pushing us just for specialists (trying to lure them ..) At that time, gentlemen .. soldier They want to drive the Russian bear back to the den and soak it there .. Well, well ..!
  14. kefan
    kefan 9 August 2017 19: 37
    0
    And what other disputes can be about this? For a long time it was necessary to strive for this, and the sooner the better.
  15. tamnun
    tamnun 9 August 2017 20: 54
    0
    Quote: Monos
    To finish the discussion ... With Kepmor we talked about GDP (gross domestic product), and you are crucifying about the dollar money supply circulating in the US economy. Two transactions per day on the stock exchange for the same shares double the budget for taxes on these transactions and increase GDP (Well, they’re considered it), but they don’t give a real product! If you don’t understand this, then there’s nothing to talk about with you

    GDP
    Gross Domestic Product (Gross Domestic Product), generally accepted reduction - GDP (English GDP) - macroeconomic indicator reflecting market value all final goods and services (i.e. intended for direct consumption)produced per year in all sectors of the economy in the territory

    The final product is the final Carl.
    Teach materiel
  16. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 9 August 2017 23: 32
    +2
    1. I do not think that this is a populist statement, especially from an official of this level. This is not bullying tats; this is a topic for closer and scrupulous conversation among the countries of Shanghai cooperation, EURASES, BRICS.
    The fact is that there are no obligations to pay $ in the world market. Yes, it is equivalent and therefore calculated by it, but it is quite possible to complicate the scheme (leaving $) and pay with national currencies, which will make the world economy more stable. And you can simplify it by inventing, coordinating and approving a new international unit, at least within the framework of the above described community, while let $ remain. He will die himself.
    2. It is impossible to become strong and authoritative without winning the fight: - economic, financial, social, scientific, entrepreneurial, sports, etc. .. In order to win, you must start to fight. Why wait, it's time to start, let the first moves be small, but you need to start.