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The Pentagon announced a tender for the purchase of rifles caliber 7,62 × 51 mm

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The US Army is looking for a replacement for M4 rifles. According to the portal military.comThe US Department of Defense announced a tender for the purchase of an intermediate rifle (Interim Combat Service Rifle, ICSR) caliber 7,62 × 51 mm.


Today the main small weapon US Army - M4 rifle caliber 5,56 × 45 mm. But, after General Mark Millie, speaking in the Senate, reported that 5,56-mm cartridges M855A1 were unable to penetrate the latest body armor, parliamentarians approved a program to re-equip the army with small-caliber small arms.

The Pentagon announced a tender for the purchase of rifles caliber 7,62 × 51 mm

American soldier with rifle scar-h.

The tender will be held in two stages. As part of the first, the military will purchase seven different models of rifles from those available on the market and test them. In particular, the soldier’s ability to carry 210 ammunition in 20 or 30-charging stores will be tested in a standard outfit, and shooting at 300 and 600 m distances will be carried out. In addition, all rifles will measure the volume of the shot, after which the possibility of reducing it will be determined . It will be important and the availability of mounts for installing additional accessories. In addition to shooting qualities, low weight and a basic set of additional accessories (sights, flame arresters, flashlights, etc.) will be important for new rifles. As part of the second stage, the US Department of Defense will select the winner and purchase up to 50 000 rifles in caliber 7,62 × 51 mm.

For the first time, the Marine Corps Corps, assessing the actions of soldiers in Afghanistan in the 5,56 year, spoke about the insufficient capabilities of 2004 caliber cartridges. The marines complained about the short range of the bullet, which is why the enemy, who used 7,62 mm weapons, had a fire advantage. In 2009, the US Army adopted the Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR), an upgraded version of the M14 rifle in the 7,62 × 51 mm caliber.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 August 2017 12: 36
    +6
    ... yes, 7,62 * 51 is already a really killer caliber ...
    1. just exp
      just exp 8 August 2017 12: 42
      13
      that's shitty that they want to change it to 5.56.
      as for me it would be better if they stayed on it, and even better if they were won by those who believe that the smaller the caliber, the more rounds the soldier can take in weight and the caliber has even decreased.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 August 2017 12: 44
        +5
        growth exp Today, 12:42 ↑ New
        that's shitty that they want to change it to 5.56.
        as for me it would be better if they stayed on it, and even better if they were won by those who believe that the smaller the caliber, the more rounds the soldier can take in weight and the caliber has even decreased.

        ... I understand you, I hope our other forum users ...
      2. iConst
        iConst 8 August 2017 16: 51
        +2
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... yes, 7,62 * 51 is already a really killer caliber ...

        We have an intermediate of 7.62x39. And the Yankees? German 7,92x33?
        .308 Win, just like our 7.62x54R, is recognized as excessive for personal small arms.

        In any case, we are ahead - and nothing needs to be done. AKMs in warehouses like dirt ...
      3. Maz
        Maz 8 August 2017 21: 10
        +1
        Interestingly, to whom they will sack all the crap from the arsenals? Is it really Ukraine?
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 9 August 2017 04: 16
          +2
          50 trunks. To rearm the entire American army is too little. This is probably only for all kinds of specialists. hi
  2. 40 years with varicocele
    40 years with varicocele 8 August 2017 12: 38
    +6
    Finally thought to increase the caliber. Correctly Zadornov spoke about them! wassat They want to catch us, but it won’t work out! Russian gunsmiths have already prepared surprises for the Yankees 100 years in advance. We work little by little, raise the country, educate grandchildren soldier
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 August 2017 12: 45
      +5
      grandchildren bring up soldier

      ... grandchildren are good, grandchildren are joy ...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 8 August 2017 12: 45
      +4
      In 10 years, up to 9x39 doprut can.
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 8 August 2017 13: 22
        19
        Quote: Incvizitor
        In 10 years, up to 9x39 doprut can.

        And after 20 years they will run with a cannon charge ... fellow fellow fellow
      2. Kornvoli
        Kornvoli 8 August 2017 13: 38
        +2
        Already a rod in the whole http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/07/pot
        d-9x39mm-us /
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 8 August 2017 14: 59
          0
          Such a cartridge with an underestimated charge ... A good machine will turn out.
      3. Silumin
        Silumin 8 August 2017 23: 42
        0
        And you drag big bullets! and 9x39 we have long had amerikos for export ak-107 is there is a large-caliber machine gun al-12
    3. Ararat
      Ararat 8 August 2017 13: 24
      +1
      And what caliber is 5.45mm more than 5.56?
      1. Couchexpert
        Couchexpert 8 August 2017 14: 51
        +6
        Yes, the caliber is approximately equal, but the muzzle energy of the cartridges 5,45x39 and 5,56x45 is different. On average, our intermediate is 20% weaker, and if the NATO cartridges have a tendency to decrease muzzle energy due to the adoption of short-barreled M4 instead of the old full-length oars M16 (from 2000 to 1500 J), then our cartridges have 1500 J on the latest versions - in fact, the limit of propelability of gunpowder into the sleeve. Here you also need to understand the history of creation: the American cartridge was coined purely under the M-50 in the 60-16s, and 5,45x39 is our answer to it - a reduced version of the 70x7,62 cartridge developed in the 39s (!) Reduced in the 40s for the SKS carbine. Logically, something "intermediate" between the "intermediate" 7,62x39 and the rifle 7,62x54 R with a sleeve length of 45-50 mm, but then the release of His Majesty the AK would have suffered, so alas ...
  3. newcomer
    newcomer 8 August 2017 12: 38
    +2
    Yes, mine, take our AK 7.62 * 39. killer thing. but if seriously, ours still dance around 5.45. although there were rumors about the desire to return to 7.62, but something is silence.
    1. avt
      avt 8 August 2017 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      Yes, mine, take our AK 7.62 * 39.

      Yes, yours! And read at least the headline ??? The cartridge then take a rifle and machine gun! Then, by analogy, it is necessary to arm the infantry of the SVD! Rather, an adapted version for the infantry. Or we can say they roll back in the brain to the times even before Vietnam to the M-14 and the Belgian FAL
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 8 August 2017 13: 31
        +3
        I actually even read the news under the heading. but not important. here, apparently, who is talking about something, and I'm talking about my own, painful one. it's about caliber 5.45. Yes, by the way, I’ll ask you not to touch mine!
      2. Luga
        Luga 8 August 2017 14: 01
        +1
        Quote: avt
        The cartridge then take a rifle and machine gun!

        They have been using this cartridge in assault rifles for a long time. And here we have its analogue 7.62x54 - only in machine guns and snipers, well, in the good old three-ruler. And is AK with 7.62x39 anything FN FAL, for example, inferior?
        Strange comeback partners perform. Do they want to deceive and confuse us? recourse
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 8 August 2017 14: 06
          +2
          yes here and I think if they change the main small arms, and here rifle, bullet gun. there is apparently some kind of confusion, I want to wait for the comment voyaka uh.
        2. avt
          avt 8 August 2017 14: 31
          0
          Quote: Luga
          They have been using this cartridge in assault rifles for a long time. And here we have its analogue 7.62x54 - only in machine guns and snipers, well, in the good old three-ruler.

          Are you soooooooo ?! And where is uvaz? Well, in which shooter? And googl in your hands and find out for SVT there, ABC, the main thing for dates is more careful. Then for
          Quote: Luga
          And is AK with 7.62x39 something FN FAL, for example inferior?

          you bother, but with specific technical details. This is such a nonsense - the engineering constructions should certainly be discussed with the performance characteristics.
          1. Luga
            Luga 8 August 2017 17: 18
            +3
            Quote: avt
            find out for SVT there, ABC, the main thing for dates is more careful

            That is, do you consider Simonov and Tokarev rifles an analog of NATO assault rifles or AK? I am surprised. Of course, I know that they provide for automatic fire, but I have never heard that it was used in large quantities in battle. But the fact that these rifles were used as sniper repeatedly was read, even in St. Petersburg in the artillery museum I saw a registered sniper SVT. So I'm not sure that your scornful tone is appropriate in this case. No.
            Quote: avt
            you bother, but with specific technical details. This is such a nonsense - the engineering constructions should certainly be discussed with the performance characteristics.

            Then I really did not understand what they wanted to say. As if, in response to my rhetorical question, did you recommend me to search for an answer on my own? Thanks, smiled.
            And what, in your opinion, did the assault rifles under the 7.62x51 really significantly exceed (or concede) the AKs under the 7.62x39? I am curious.
  4. Forever so
    Forever so 8 August 2017 12: 52
    +3
    Oh how, did the Americans really decide to fight ?? Their current weapon is in strict accordance with the doctrine of Police Cleansing. And 7.62, this is already a battlefield. And I wonder why from the warehouses of the Mob Reserve in million lots went 7.62 * 39 to America. To the cries of the government about the release of depots from outdated ammunition. yes well done Dimon. TOUCH ALL!
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 August 2017 13: 13
      0
      Could expire. So they moved those who wish to purchase. Only these 7,62x39 can come around in Syria.
    2. avt
      avt 8 August 2017 13: 20
      +5
      Quote: Forever so
      . And then I am surprised why from the warehouses of the Mob Reserve in million lots went 7.62 * 39 to America. To the cries of the government about the release of depots from outdated ammunition.
      bully That is, to realize the fact that the fire source in the warehouse forever cannot be, the brain is not able to realize ??? In the same way, bombs from the Patriotic era were poured into Afghanistan. There are three options - to sell, shoot, recycle (for extra cash investments), you can still stupidly rot and then recycle again. The question is not what they are selling, but what is being laid in their place!
      1. rt 800
        rt 800 8 August 2017 14: 12
        0
        There was an article on the VO that the supply of ammunition is enough for us to fight quite a bit with average consumption rates for one destroyed enemy. And the bottom line is that even if the fart is torn to itself, but without stealing our bureaucrats, the remaining ammunition plants will launch the devil’s brutal ammunition .20 years pulled away and didn’t really produce anything.
  5. hohkn
    hohkn 8 August 2017 12: 55
    +6
    In particular, the ability to carry a soldier in standard equipment will be tested 210 rounds of ammunition in 20- or 30-charging stores, and firing will be carried out at distances of 300 and 600 m.

    Wimps. There are 600 rounds of ammunition in Pecheneg in Russia. On the machine - 300.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 August 2017 13: 28
    +2
    Original article here:
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/08/05/arm
    y-launches-competition-more-powerful-combat-rifle
    .html

    The Americans do not plan to transfer the entire army to 7.62.
    New rifles will replace the remaining M14s and will not be issued to all soldiers.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 8 August 2017 13: 56
      +2
      and they still have the armament m14? and it’s not clear, the article replaces m4, two big differences. but if you think it’s probably replaced by sniper14? kindly clarify. Yes, the link went to a big oops.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 August 2017 14: 11
        +1
        M14 and are used as sniper. "Attacking sniper" which
        moves with everyone, with his unit.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 8 August 2017 14: 15
          +2
          voyaka uh, it is understandable. so change m4, or m14.
      2. avt
        avt 8 August 2017 16: 49
        +1
        Quote: newbie
        and they still have the armament m14?

        They’re not just standing, but they upgraded it completely for the Marxmanns and it turned out to be quite a good army automatic sniper.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 8 August 2017 17: 16
          +2
          I am a fan of AK, but in my vain the Yankees removed the M14 from service. in my opinion it is still better than m16 / 17, especially m4. the modern sniper came out of it cool, with a good modernization, it would be possible to achieve both weight reduction and increased ammunition.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 9 August 2017 10: 11
            0
            Heavy. The returns are strong. The cartridges are heavy - you won’t drag much.
            After the M16, which has no return at all - a shock. And a blow to the shoulder, and weight.
  7. corporal
    corporal 8 August 2017 14: 12
    0
    They kind of experimented with 6,8x43 and 6,5x38. Moreover, as stated about 6,8
    according to the developers, it increases the stopping effect of such ammunition by one and a half times in comparison with 5,56

    и
    The most important feature of the new 6,8x43 cartridge is that it can be used in standard, already stamped weapon stores, while, say, M16 or M4, when adapting to a new ammunition, they will only need to replace barrels and combat larvae of the bolt.

    Something went wrong?
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 8 August 2017 15: 19
    0
    It seems to me that this American canoe with the search for a good trunk will never end ...
  9. Rostislav
    Rostislav 8 August 2017 15: 30
    +1
    Kalashnikov has great chances laughing
  10. Alf
    Alf 8 August 2017 16: 01
    +1
    carry 210 rounds in 20- or 30-charge magazines,

    It seems to me alone that 210 by 20 is not divisible? Or do pindocs have their own arithmetic? Although, if they have a Pi equal to four, then ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 August 2017 16: 39
      +1
      But it’s 7 thirty-horns horns
  11. san4es
    san4es 8 August 2017 16: 54
    +6
    Characteristics
    Weight, kg: 5,1
    Length, mm: 889
    Barrel length, mm: 457
    Cartridge: 7,62 × 51 mm NATO
    Caliber, mm: 7,62
    Principles of operation: removal of powder gases, butterfly valve
    Rate of fire
    rounds / min: 700–750
    starting speed
    bullets m / s: 845
    Sighting range, m: 460
    800 (optical sight)
    Type of ammunition: box magazine for 10/20 rounds
    Sight: open, there is a mount for mounting an optical

    ... Decided to return to the "trunks" of the Vietnam War
  12. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 8 August 2017 16: 54
    0
    For some reason, commentators missed the main thing, that all the fuss because of that ..
    that 5,56 mm M855A1 cartridges are unable to penetrate the latest bulletproof vests

    And such armor plates will soon be, if not every American soldier, then at least everyone who takes part in the hostilities.
  13. Music
    Music 8 August 2017 17: 05
    0
    It's time to raise the caliber of rifles to 8,6? And then Comrade Rogozin M-4 really praised. In my time.
  14. av58
    av58 8 August 2017 18: 25
    0
    Q.E.D. We also need to return to 7,62x39.
  15. Operator
    Operator 8 August 2017 19: 31
    0
    The Russian Defense Ministry slammed ears over the transition of potential opponents to ceramic plates of the ESAPI class, which are not pierced by armor-piercing bullets of the calibers 5,45x39 and 7,62x39 mm.

    Everything was played in toys - AK-12, AK-16, AEK-545, AEK-762.
  16. Curious
    Curious 8 August 2017 21: 28
    +2
    I have said many times that knowledge of enemy languages ​​is a necessary thing. Otherwise, you will have to lag behind information space or wait for rehashes such as the VO site.
    The whole problem is the preparation of news on the VO website. For some reason, the person responsible for them on the site considers it his duty to slap something of his own there.
    The original reads as follows: "US Army weapon officials just opened a competition for a new 7.62mm Interim Service Combat Rifle to arm infantry units with a weapon potent enough to penetrate enemy body armor."
    Those. US Army launches competition for more powerful feces rifle. 7,62 mm.
    About 7,62x51 there is no talk in the news. So formally, from the text of the note, only the caliber is known, but not the cartridge. So wait, bark your spears around the NATO standard.