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Spike anti-missile factory opened in India

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According to the portal defenseworld.net, the Indian company Kalyani Strategic Systems and the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems opened the first factory for the production of anti-missile systems Spike in India.

The plant, located in the city of Hyderabad (the state of Telingana), officially began its work, and already “in a few weeks” the production of the Spike ATGM system would start. The first customer of the joint venture, in which the parties have 51 / 49 shares in favor of the Indian manufacturer, was the Ministry of Defense of India, reports "Warspot".



As part of the first order for the Indian army, 300 launchers and Spike 8000 missiles will be assembled. At the same time, the parties are counting on a substantial increase in the order, since the Indian army has announced plans for a large-scale deployment of a new generation of anti-tank systems.
Kalyani Strategic Systems declares that “this will be not just a screwdriver assembly, but a full-fledged production with transfer of key technologies to the Indian side”. Localization in the Indian "Spike" will be about 90%. In the future, the new plant is planning to start production of air-to-surface missiles.

Spike is a family of Israeli missiles developed in 1990's by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. Spike is a multipurpose multiplatform electro-optical rocket system designed to destroy armored vehicles, protected objects and engineering structures, as well as surface targets and enemy manpower. Rocket launch can be carried out in three main modes: “Shot and forget” (Fire and Forget), “Shot, noticed and corrected” (Fire, Observe and Update) and “Shot and sent” (Fire and Steer). Spike missiles can be equipped with cumulative, fragmentation and combined warheads.
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  1. Speedy
    Speedy 4 August 2017 12: 50
    +10
    Anti-tank and not anti-missile .. Correct.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 4 August 2017 13: 14
      +2
      Roughly speaking, it is also possible to shoot Spike at lonely-standing rockets. And even necessary.
  2. Lex.
    Lex. 4 August 2017 12: 50
    +3
    Spike-Anti-tank missile systems like
    1. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 4 August 2017 23: 00
      0
      Quote: Lex.
      Spike-Anti-tank missile systems like

      What's the difference. Hindus will naughty and missiles.
      1. Lex.
        Lex. 5 August 2017 09: 58
        0
        Yeah galoshes will naughty
  3. alean245
    alean245 4 August 2017 12: 51
    +1
    missile defense systems Spike

    belay
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 4 August 2017 13: 07
      +16
      If the author takes another puff, then also the anti-satellite))))))))))
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 4 August 2017 12: 59
    +3
    Maybe the Indians will send us a partake, just in case, otherwise we slowed down something strongly in the field of GOS
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 4 August 2017 13: 13
      +14
      This is not in the field of GOS. This is generally in engineering and microelectronics. It is necessary to change the economic structure, with this - it’s impossible to build “capitalism with a human face”, all the time it’s the face of Chaika the Younger, then the daughter of Peskov ...
  5. Lopatov
    Lopatov 4 August 2017 13: 03
    +10
    And before, our riveted ... And with, as I recall, much less localization.
    Played "effective" in our defense industry. Not only are they incapable of providing their own army, but also losses on foreign markets ...
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 4 August 2017 13: 10
      +3
      Knowing the Indian military’s "craving" for corruption, apparently "the Spike missiles" shot at the training ground during the training exercises will be with us lol
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 August 2017 13: 16
        +9
        Oh, we already have all this for a long time. Spikes around the world like dirt. The Chinese, having essentially no direct access, had already managed to copy the Spikes.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 4 August 2017 13: 26
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          Oh, we already have all this for a long time. Spikes around the world like dirt.

          What is already there, I do not even doubt it, but the "extra" ones also will not hurt.
          Quote: Spade
          The Chinese, having essentially no direct access, had already managed to copy the Spikes.

          Yes, the very same Israeli Jews involved in the development of "for a little money" and "leaked" these technologies to the Chinese.
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 4 August 2017 14: 33
            +1
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Quote: Spade
            Oh, we already have all this for a long time. Spikes around the world like dirt.

            What is already there, I do not even doubt it, but the "extra" ones also will not hurt.

            Knowing the design of the spike is useless for us, if we had the technology for the production of microelectronics and the field of microelements. But it is not yet clear whether work is being carried out in this area, and if so, how successfully ...
        2. haenx
          haenx 5 August 2017 20: 21
          0
          Hello. I love stories about these systems. You can drop the link. To read. Why can't Russian Metis Competitions equip with optics? Can the Russian design bureaus not be able to establish the production of optical infrared guidance heads?
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 5 August 2017 23: 26
            +1
            Quote: haenx
            Can the Russian design bureaus not be able to establish the production of optical infrared guidance heads?

            They are produced for other missiles, they simply don’t want to put them in the ATGM because of the high price. On the one hand, this is good because the price of ATGM is lower, and the inconvenience to the infantry is insignificant. On the other hand, such an ATGM is inconvenient to use with equipment (BMP \ helicopter) because you need to constantly keep the target in sight.
            In general, in the West we have a different concept of the use of anti-tank systems, we use them for defense i.e. infantry makes ambushes or defensive lines, and in the west, ATGMs are used for attack, i.e. run out / leave shoot and back to the shelter. At the same time, the conditions for shooting also differ (different theater of operations), we have a “greenback” and a small distance for attack, in the west it is an open space without a greenback, hence two different tactics of application grow, and most importantly, they are not compatible . We in the RF Ministry of Defense unfortunately do not understand this, and are trying to use defense ATGMs for an attack (for example, in the form of a TIGER + ATGM)
    2. Blue fox
      Blue fox 4 August 2017 13: 26
      +2
      Price, colleague, price. Even if a potential customer is ready to accept some of the most outstanding characteristics, the cost of the products at the same time wants to be adequate.
      I heard a conversation here in the subway about the disruption of negotiations on the acquisition of Foliage, a potential narrow-eyed customer was very interested, but he was frightened off by the price and the imposed service, which, incidentally, concerns more technical maintenance of the chassis, and not the equipment. As a result, the customer chose a more utilitarian system, but with the possibility of installation on conventional army armored vehicles and wheeled armored personnel carriers. The system seems to be from the country of spaghetti and has an increased sensitivity to related mines, which are loved by everyone, but were the curse of Soviet sappers in Afghanistan.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 August 2017 13: 55
        0
        Quote: Blue Fox
        Price, colleague, price. Even if a potential customer is ready to accept some of the most outstanding characteristics, the cost of the products at the same time wants to be adequate.

        Uh ... We kinda like discussing India. They had enough money for Spike.
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 4 August 2017 15: 19
          0
          This I clumsily spoke out about our "effective" and losses in the foreign market.
  6. 501Legion
    501Legion 4 August 2017 13: 16
    0
    what kind of missile defense system? )
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 4 August 2017 13: 46
      +2
      The analogue of our S-500
  7. Professor
    Professor 4 August 2017 13: 54
    +5
    Spike - a family of Israeli rockets developed in the 1990 years

    In 1970, not 1990.
    1. Spike Javelin Touvich
      Spike Javelin Touvich 4 August 2017 14: 05
      +4
      Oleg is Tamuz, here is the spike
      1. Professor
        Professor 4 August 2017 14: 06
        +6
        Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
        Oleg is Tamuz, here is the spike

        Thank you for enlightening, otherwise I wrote just a few articles about Spikes. wink
        Tamuz is Spike UFO.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 4 August 2017 14: 20
          +3
          Quote: Professor

          Thank you for enlightening, otherwise I wrote just a few articles about Spikes. wink
          Tamuz is Spike UFO.

          By the way Oleg, is it a UFO?
          1. Professor
            Professor 4 August 2017 14: 25
            +3
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            By the way Oleg, is it a UFO?

            And this is it.
            Since the development of the first version in 1970's, Raphael has already earned 5 generations Commissure. Therefore, sometimes a new generation Spike in Israel is called the "fifth generation ATGM" - דור חמישי.
            1. corporal
              corporal 5 August 2017 11: 20
              0
              Not sure which version of Spike will be produced?
              However, in any case, this news will not add optimism to the Chinese and Pakistani tankmen. And not only to tankers.
              1. Professor
                Professor 6 August 2017 06: 46
                +1
                Quote: Corporal
                Not sure which version of Spike will be produced?

                New Delhi: An Indian-Israeli joint venture firm will manufacture the advanced anti-tank guided missile named “Spike mr”In Hyderabad, a media report said on Friday.
                http://zeenews.india.com/hyderabad/made-in-india-
                israel-to-produce-anti-tank-spike-mr-missiles-in-
                hyderabad-2030285.html
        2. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 4 August 2017 16: 38
          +1
          So many articles were written about adhesions but did not know what it was
          missile defense system
  8. padded jacket
    padded jacket 4 August 2017 14: 39
    +1
    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
    The technology for the production of microelectronics and the field of microelements would be appropriate.

    I think we have all of this. We don’t have the “will” of the state to produce something “new” and high-tech in our country, because it’s much easier to buy it for a penny abroad and then sell it at a cost of money from us.
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  10. Mentat
    Mentat 5 August 2017 16: 45
    +1
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
    The technology for the production of microelectronics and the field of microelements would be appropriate.

    I think we have all of this. We don’t have the “will” of the state to produce something “new” and high-tech in our country, because it’s much easier to buy it for a penny abroad and then sell it at a cost of money from us.

    The state has no desire to spend money inefficiently on the purchase of products of the past and the year before last generations. We are talking about the thermal imaging heads, which the Jews boast about, but whose value is prohibitive, they are expensive to manufacture.

    There are no, from the word in general, “new technologies” or any secrets for us in Spikes. Adhesions are not only seriously lagging behind our products in armor penetration, their cost is sky-high.
    For comparison:
    Cornet shot cost ~ $ 15-20000
    Spike-LR shot cost ~ $ 200000 (!)
    And who needs it? No one except the Jews who make gesheft on this, and the Papuans, who were divorced for this. In addition to the Papuans, Spike was sold only in 2 technologically advanced countries: the World Bank and Germany. The USA sent this after the tests. Because it costs 2 times more than Javelin, and the efficiency is not higher.

    A new generation of thermal imaging sensors is approaching, the cost of which is much lower. Here they can be used in our serial products.
    1. Mentat
      Mentat 5 August 2017 17: 17
      0
      For reference, about desire, capabilities and technologies:
      “The Russian research and production enterprise“ Istok ”and the central research institute“ Cyclone ”will soon begin mass production of uncooled microbolometers for various military equipment. According to the newspaper Izvestia, the new thermal imaging matrix is ​​a Russian development. As part of mass production, the output of new microbolometers will be about ten thousand pieces per year.

      Thermal imagers based on uncooled microbolometers will be installed on promising main T-14 battle tanks and T-15 infantry fighting vehicles based on the Armata universal platform, Kurganets armored personnel carriers and Typhoon armored vehicles. Thermal imagers based on these matrices will also be installed on Igla and Verba portable anti-aircraft missile systems (https://nplus1.ru/news/2016/07/27/matrix)
    2. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 5 August 2017 18: 13
      0
      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Quote: Spade
      Oh, we already have all this for a long time. Spikes around the world like dirt.

      What is already there, I do not even doubt it, but the "extra" ones also will not hurt.

      Knowing the construction of a spike is useless to usnab would microelectronics manufacturing technology yes trace mineral deposits. But it is not yet clear whether work is being carried out in this area, and if so, how successfully ...
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 August 2017 16: 46
      0
      "The cost of a shot of Spike-LR ~ $ 200000 (!)" ////

      Therefore, it is important for us to begin large-scale production in India.
      To lower the price of a shot.
      Then it’s not only the shots at the tanks (the price of which -
      several million) but also using a different technique.
      And from the Indian plant it will be possible to replenish the IDF's stocks, if necessary.

      "Adhesions are not only seriously lagging behind our products in armor penetration" ///

      Spike, unlike Russian products, hits the roof of the tank. smile
  11. Mentat
    Mentat 5 August 2017 18: 48
    0
    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
    microelectronics manufacturing technology

    Are you reading the text above with a link in a state or are you just enough for bold highlighting?
  12. haenx
    haenx 5 August 2017 20: 16
    0
    this is a serious swing. These systems have worked well in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict of 2017.
  13. haenx
    haenx 5 August 2017 20: 32
    0
    [quote = Mentat] [quote = padded jacket] [quote = ProkletyiPirat
    ]
    I think all this we have, we don’t have the “will” of the state to produce something “new” and high-tech in our country, because it’s much easier to buy it for a penny abroad and then sell it to us at a price. [/ Quote]
    The state has no desire to spend money inefficiently on the purchase of products of the past and the year before last generations. We are talking about the thermal imaging heads, which the Jews boast about, but whose value is prohibitive, they are expensive to manufacture.

    There are no, from the word in general, “new technologies” or any secrets for us in Spikes. Adhesions are not only seriously lagging behind our products in armor penetration, their cost is sky-high.
    For comparison:
    Cornet shot cost ~ $ 15-20000
    Spike-LR shot cost ~ $ 200000 (!)
    And who needs it? No one except the Jews who make gesheft on this, and the Papuans, who were divorced for this. In addition to the Papuans, Spike was sold only in 2 technologically advanced countries: the World Bank and Germany. The USA sent this after the tests. Because it costs 2 times more than Javelin, and the efficiency is not higher. [/ Quote]

    haenx: I always thought that the armor penetration of a spike rocket does not play a significant role, because the rocket penetrates the tank from top to bottom, and the video recording program for the terrain and the target itself is very interesting.
    1. Mentat
      Mentat 6 August 2017 16: 27
      0
      Very interesting does not mean as effective as possible.
      Try somewhere to find the maximum flank speed of the target at which Spike is able to hit her.
      This characteristic is modestly silent. And all because Spike flies quite slowly, 130-180 m / s, Cornet, for comparison, 300 m / s.
      Is Spike capable of hitting fast-moving or maneuvering targets, or targets with significantly variable speed? Some doubts arise.
      1. Professor
        Professor 6 August 2017 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Mentat
        Is Spike capable of hitting fast-moving or maneuvering targets, or targets with significantly variable speed? Some doubts arise.

        Is it like in Formula 1 accelerating and slowing down?
        Here are Spikes from the shortest to the most ... well, as a "padded jacket" put it with the greatest "long"shots.






        Want to get away from Spike? Accelerate to speeds greater than 200 m / s. wink
  14. Mentat
    Mentat 6 August 2017 23: 38
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Want to get away from Spike? Accelerate to speeds over 200 m / s

    It's not about running away, but about disrupting the capture of the guidance head. There is a suspicion that at short range the flight speed of the Spike rocket may not be sufficient to maneuver the correction of the trajectory.

    In your videos, targets move at speeds from ~ 20 to ~ 40 km / h, which seems to be the maximum flank speed of the target. If so, this is a very modest indicator.
    1. Mentat
      Mentat 6 August 2017 23: 55
      0
      Spike can hardly be called a bad system, but attributing it some kind of perfection or unsurpassed performance, to put it mildly, is incorrect.
      There are a number of pluses, mainly the “shot and forget” system implemented in the serial product, as well as a number of significant, IMHO, minuses. Starting from the price and ending with reduced armor penetration and a relatively low missile flight speed, which leads to doubts about the effectiveness of firing at fast-moving targets. There aren’t any in your videos.
    2. Professor
      Professor 7 August 2017 09: 38
      +2
      Quote: Mentat
      It's not about running away, but about disrupting the capture of the guidance head. There is a suspicion that at short range the flight speed of the Spike rocket may not be sufficient to maneuver the correction of the trajectory.

      Okay, show your calculations.

      Quote: Mentat
      In your videos, targets move at speeds from ~ 20 to ~ 40 km / h, like, this is the maximum flank speed of the target. If so, this is a very modest indicator.

      Looks like? I ask again, are you going to shoot at a Formula 1 car? If not, then the speed and maneuverability of the rocket for the eyes will be enough to hit any tank in motion, which we actually observe on the 3's video presented by me.

      Quote: Mentat
      Spike can hardly be called a bad system, but attributing it some kind of perfection or unsurpassed performance, to put it mildly, is incorrect.

      Where do you see attribution of a certain perfection or unsurpassed characteristics? There is a statement of TTX and no more.
      Customers are satisfied and Spikes are buying like high-tech countries and not so.
      Spikes have more than a dozen years of combat use. Only in 2006 in Lebanon more than 600 Tambuzs were used. Today Spikes are used against militants in Syria.


      Quote: Mentat
      There are a number of pluses, mainly the “shot and forget” system implemented in the serial product, as well as a number of significant, IMHO, minuses. Starting from the price and ending with reduced armor penetration and a relatively low missile flight speed, which leads to doubts about the effectiveness of firing at fast-moving targets. There aren’t any in your videos.

      Quote: Mentat
      There are a number of pluses, mainly the “shot and forget” system implemented in the serial product, as well as a number of significant, IMHO, minuses. Starting from the price and ending with reduced armor penetration and a relatively low missile flight speed, which leads to doubts about the effectiveness of firing at fast-moving targets. There aren’t any in your videos.


      I’m not talking about the pros.
      Regarding the cons. The price of the spike is not high for third-generation ATGMs. Organization of production in India will significantly reduce its cost. Hindus plan to release tens of thousands of ATGMs. "Reduced" armor penetration is your speculation. Spike is guaranteed to break through the roof of any tank. Here in the video (0: 38), the youngest of the Spike family breaks through the tank through the tank, i.e. both sides on departure, and the "fast moving target" is generally a pearl.


      Take an interest in the maximum speed of the tank and the real speed of the tank on the battlefield.

      PS
      Don't like Spike? Do not buy. wink
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 7 August 2017 13: 38
        0
        the question is how much he breaks for DZ + composite, and not whether he breaks the homogenous.
  15. Mentat
    Mentat 7 August 2017 11: 43
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Looks like? I ask again, are you going to shoot at a Formula 1 car? If not, then the speed and maneuverability of the rocket for the eyes will be enough to hit any tank in motion, which we actually observe on the 3's video presented by me.

    In the presented videos, tanks move at a speed of approximately 20 km / h or even stand :)
    Somewhere under 40 km / h your test car rides with a large light side or whatever it is.
    Tanks can actually move much faster, as well as accelerate and sharply turn, oddly enough. The maximum flank speed for Kornet-E, for example, is 70 km / h, which plausibly correlates with the ratio of the speed of his rocket to that of Spike and the speed of targets in your videos :)

    PS. By the way, what kind of Spike modification is planned to be produced in India?
    1. Professor
      Professor 7 August 2017 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: Mentat
      In the presented videos, tanks move at a speed of approximately 20 km / h or even stand :)

      Let's get your calculations. How did you determine the speed?

      Quote: Mentat
      Tanks can actually move much faster, as well as accelerate and sharply turn, oddly enough. I advise you to see the tank biathlon). The maximum flank speed for Kornet-E, for example, is 70 km / h, which plausibly correlates with the ratio of the speed of his rocket to that of Spike and the speed of targets in your videos :)

      And tanks can also fly, but this show has nothing to do with a real battle. In battle, the tanks are slow and slow. I’m even too lazy to upload tons of videos shot in Syria, like in battle tanks "can move much faster, and also accelerate and turn sharply, oddly enough," but they don’t do it, no matter how strange it is. Despite all the efforts, the tanks there are not able to evade a rocket moving at a speed of 200 m / s. The maximum that they are sometimes saved by this concealment over natural barriers. However, in the case of Spike, this will not help. The rocket makes a slide and sees the tank in full view.
  16. Mentat
    Mentat 7 August 2017 19: 57
    0
    Quote: Professor
    And tanks can also fly, but this show has nothing to do with a real battle. In battle, the tanks are slow and slow. I’m even too lazy to upload tons of videos shot in Syria, like in battle tanks "can move much faster, and also accelerate and turn sharply, oddly enough," but they don’t do it, no matter how strange it is.

    Um, didn’t you notice one interesting detail, by chance? The users of these tanks were not Arabs? :)
    Well, yes, jumping from bumps in the landscape while hitting a target and driving over a hill at a speed of 60 km / h is all Russian pranks that have nothing to do with military use.
    By the way, the basis for the anecdote is already visible: a column of militant tanks is traveling, and it is escorted by soldiers of the Israeli Army, armed with Spikes, but do not shoot. The American asks: “Why not shoot? Blast them away, you have a super-tech Spike! ”The glorious Israeli soldiers answer:“ We wait until they enter the battle and become clumsy! ”: D
    T-72 and T-90 can now squeeze out km / h under 70 on flat terrain, the conditions of use are different, not just greenhouse ones.

    Despite all the efforts, the tanks there are not able to evade a rocket moving at a speed of 200 m / s.

    It's not about evasion, but about disruption of capture at close range, and therefore there is a parameter "maximum flank speed."

    The maximum that they are sometimes saved by this concealment over natural barriers. However, in the case of Spike, this will not help. The rocket makes a slide and sees the tank in full view.

    The experience of the Chechen wars showed that getting into the upper projection of a tank equipped with a DZ does not guarantee its destruction, to put it mildly.
    1. Professor
      Professor 8 August 2017 08: 02
      +1
      Quote: Mentat
      Um, didn’t you notice one interesting detail, by chance? The users of these tanks were not Arabs? :)

      I have no idea what kind of green men there are, "advisers" or militias. It does not matter. Schumacher in the tank troops do not serve as unnecessary.

      Quote: Mentat
      Well, yes, jumping from bumps in the landscape while hitting a target and driving over a hill at a speed of 60 km / h is all Russian pranks that have nothing to do with military use.

      No need for fairy tales, otherwise I’ll post a video from the ostentatious tank biathlon where the best crew of the district from a place could not get on yellow on a clear day !!! a contrasting target from a distance in 2000 m. Let's go back to Earth, i.e. for combat use.

      Quote: Mentat
      By the way, the basis for the anecdote is already visible: a column of militant tanks is traveling, and it is escorted by soldiers of the Israeli Army, armed with Spikes, but do not shoot. The American asks: “Why not shoot? Blast them away, you have a super-tech Spike! ”The glorious Israeli soldiers answer:“ We wait until they enter the battle and become clumsy! ”: D

      Your joke would be funny if you knew what the average speed of a column of tanks on the march. Know you would not write such nonsense.
      Learn materiel http://arsenal-info.ru/b/book/1344116410/3

      Quote: Mentat
      T-72 and T-90 can now squeeze out km / h under 70 on flat terrain, the conditions of use are different, not just greenhouse ones.

      At ostentatious performances.

      Quote: Mentat
      It's not about evasion, but about disruption of capture at close range, and therefore there is a parameter "maximum flank speed."

      How will the breakdown be made. Describe the physics of the process. What will happen to the GOS? Why would she suddenly “forget” about the tank?

      Quote: Mentat
      The experience of the Chechen wars showed that getting into the upper projection of a tank equipped with a DZ does not guarantee its destruction, to put it mildly.

      The experience of the Chechen wars shows that there was no third generation ATGM in the Chechen troops guaranteed to break through the roof (it hits the infection normally) behind dynamic protection.

      Quote: Professor
      Let's get your calculations. How did you determine the speed?

      ?
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 8 August 2017 13: 10
        0
        Quote: Professor
        How will the breakdown be made. Describe the physics of the process. What will happen to the GOS? Why would she suddenly “forget” about the tank?

        By the way, such a question, is there a video with a spike in the green? well, that is, where "noise" in the form of bushes (4 + m) and trees (6 + m) that block the target get into the optics?
        1. Professor
          Professor 8 August 2017 13: 22
          +1
          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          By the way, such a question, is there a video with a spike in the green? well, that is, where "noise" in the form of bushes (4 + m) and trees (6 + m) that block the target get into the optics?

          Something like this (0: 54)?
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 8 August 2017 15: 47
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Something like this (0: 54)?

            no, it is necessary that part of the target is closed for the GOS optics either constantly or from time to time (when the target is moving), I am interested in how well the noise in the captured picture is eliminated.
  17. Mentat
    Mentat 8 August 2017 16: 42
    0
    Quote: Professor
    How did you determine the speed?

    By the ratio of landscape details and the size of the tank and the change in the position of the tank relative to these parts.

    The experience of the Chechen wars shows that there was no third generation ATGM in the Chechen troops guaranteed to break through the roof (it hits the infection normally) behind dynamic protection.

    The question is that your beautiful Spike, due to the low speed of flight, will not be able to provide this very normal, but will enter, at best, tangentially if the speed of the target is high enough.
    You’re trying to powder your brain, but finally, give a simple parameter, maximum flank speed of the target. Where is the parameter, the mighty makers of perfect Spikes, al? : D
    I understand that you will tell tales for a long time about the fact that there are no fast tanks, that all of them always will only move at a speed convenient for Spike.

    How will the breakdown be made. Describe the physics of the process. What will happen to the GOS? Why would she suddenly “forget” about the tank?

    She will not forget about it, just the rocket will not be able to reach normal, as shown in your first video with a test cart. What, by the way, will happen when instead of the image of the side in front of the face of the rocket is the image of the stern?
    1. Professor
      Professor 9 August 2017 09: 56
      +1
      Quote: Mentat
      By the ratio of landscape details and the size of the tank and the change in the position of the tank relative to these parts.

      Well then, it will not be difficult for you to calculate the speed of this goal (o: 22) by the ratio of landscape details and tank sizes and the change in tank position relative to these parts.


      Quote: Mentat
      The question is that your beautiful Spike, due to the low speed of flight, will not be able to provide this very normal, but will enter, at best, tangentially if the speed of the target is high enough.

      We look at the video above and see how the ATGM holds the aiming point in spite of the speed of the target.

      Quote: Mentat
      You are trying to powder your brains, but finally, give a simple parameter, the maximum flank speed of the target. Where is the parameter, the mighty makers of perfect Spikes, al? : D

      And again the video above. Count the speed of the target and let us know. If this clip is not enough, then I have more for you.

      Quote: Mentat
      I understand that you will tell tales for a long time about the fact that there are no fast tanks, that all of them will always move only at a speed convenient for Spike.

      Learn the materiel. The speed of the tanks on the march is described here. http://arsenal-info.ru/b/book/1344116410/3

      And here are the tanks in real battle.


      Now it's your turn. Show us the video of tanks in a real battle where they rush with maximum speed.

      Quote: Mentat
      She will not forget about it, just the rocket will not be able to reach normal, as shown in your first video with a test cart. What, by the way, will happen when instead of the image of the side in front of the face of the rocket is the image of the stern?

      And again, we watch the first video and see how the GOS did not catch the stern of the tank, but kept exactly the part where it was pointed. You know why this happened? wink
      1. Professor
        Professor 9 August 2017 11: 59
        +1
        PS
        For the road.
        Application video of the youngest of the Spike brothers


        Storyboard of a moving target. The time is marked in yellow.




        Now, knowing the time and having the location, we do a simple calculation and get the target speed of more than 50 km / h. I made such calculations for the video in the previous comment. There, the speed of the target turned out even more.
        Now it's your turn. Show us a tank racing on a march or in battle.