On the Israeli practice of combating terrorism

Israel continues to show a determined fight against terrorism. While in other countries, including Russia, they say that relatives cannot be held responsible for the fact that a terrorist has appeared in the family, Israel extends responsibility to all family members. Thus, an Israeli court of the High Court (the so-called Supreme Court of Justice) rejected the appeal of the relatives of the terrorists who attacked a paramilitary patrol in Jerusalem on June 16. Recall that at that time at the Škhemsky gate the ensign of the Israeli army 23-year-old Adas Malka died, several more people were injured.

According to Israeli law, after identifying the terrorists, the houses in which they lived should be demolished.

One of the human rights organizations, on the basis of the statements of the relatives of the criminals, appealed to the High Court, but the appeal was rejected. Now the house in which the family of one of the organizers of the terrorist attack in Jerusalem lives will be completely demolished, and the house of another terrorist - partially. The fact is that the terrorist’s family does not own the whole house, but one of the apartments. It is stated that the operation will be carried out in such a way that no economic damage will be caused to other residents of the house, but living in the apartment of the terrorist’s family will no longer be possible.

9 channel Israel reports that it was decided to demolish the house of the family of a terrorist who committed the attack in early April. Then died 20-year-old sergeant of the Israeli army.

According to the Israeli authorities, the demolition of the houses of terrorists can have a psychological impact on those who are going to join the ranks of terrorist groups. Not all experts consider this measure effective, believing that such tough measures can attract offenders into terrorist structures and those left without a roof over their heads. In any case, the question is debatable, but in Israel they decided to refuse such a discussion long ago.

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[Pirogov]

Israel continues to show a decisive fight against terrorism. While in other countries, including Russia, they say that relatives cannot be held responsible for the fact that a terrorist has appeared in the family, Israel extends responsibility to all family members .............. ..............................
.................................................
....................................... Very correct law, I support.

[Logall]

Quote: Pirogov

Very correct law, I support.

Do you know all your relatives? In the Russian Federation the right sector, the OUN UPA, etc. recognized as terrorist.
Buy a house in Russia!

[Black Colonel]

Do you know all your relatives?
As an option, let the terrorist’s relatives themselves give out their non-roading fellow tribesman if they don’t want them to be demolished. In any case, the choice will be.
"The collective farm is voluntary, if you want to come in, if you want, we will shoot it."

[Logall]

Quote: Black Colonel

As an option - let the terrorist’s relatives give out their non-progeny fellow tribesman

Do you think that if I decide to embark on the path of terrorism, I will inform my relatives? In this case, there will be no one to give out! My father will solve me, and my brothers will help him in this.
So, hand over all the relatives, just in case!
Morozov would be proud of you!

[zenion]

The main thing is that these people condemn the Stalinist repressions, and the Israeli support. Stalin did the wrong thing, and the Jews kill right ?!

[Logall]

Thunder me, but I totally agree with you!

[Baloo]

According to the Israeli authorities, the demolition of the houses of terrorists can have a psychological impact on those who are going to join the ranks of terrorist groups. Not all experts consider this measure effective, believing that such tough measures can attract offenders into terrorist structures and those left without a roof over their heads. In any case, the question is debatable, but in Israel they decided to refuse such a discussion long ago.

[B] [/ b]

I strongly support Israel in this matter. But the Golan must be returned.
Both are fair.

[Logall]

A man with a star of David on the flag writes, Herod is your idol! Let's also forbid to hire relatives of terrorists. We prevent, so to speak, cells of terror of financing. And get the dynasty of terrorists right away. In Israel, their number is not decreasing. And now you take out the anger on the innocent. Why aren't you a terrorist? Tear down your home ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Balu

And the Golan must be returned

Do not.

[Baloo]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: Balu

And the Golan must be returned

Do not.

You must Fedya, you must...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Balu

You must Fedya, you must...

Will smash

[Baloo]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: Balu

You must Fedya, you must...

Will smash

They can trample, there are more of them. a nuclear bomb may not help.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Balu

They can trample ...

Could - would have trampled for a long time.

[Netwallker]

[quote] and the Jews kill correctly?! [/ qуuote]
What is killing? Houses and apartments?

[Logall]

Do not quibble. He meant repression.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: zenion

The main thing is that these people condemn the Stalinist repressions, and the Israeli support. Stalin did the wrong thing, and the Jews kill right ?!

But the Cossack is mishandled ... Cossack is a leftist. The fighter for the triumph of tolerance.

[Logall]

Just a Cossack. Cossacks in the Kuban, on the Don, on the Terek. And this, what is the "Jordanian Cossacks"? Cossacks in the "yarmulki"?
I made you laugh, now you make me ...

[Raindragon]

I agree with whom they processed, he usually makes his legs ... And the relatives you want under the knife are looking for them around the world. You won’t find it yourself, the bridges are burnt - yes the terrorists will thank you

[Alf]

Quote: Logall

Do you think that if I decide to embark on the path of terrorism, I will inform my relatives? In this case, there will be no one to give out! My father will solve me, and my brothers will help him in this.

In the East, a sense of clan is very developed. And the situation where relatives, knowing that their fellow terrorist, do not extradite him, is repeated very often. In addition, it fits perfectly under the article "For Failure". I knew that your relative was a bandit and a murderer and didn’t inform you, welcome to the bunks.

[Logall]

The fact of the matter is that on bunks, and not deprive the innocent, along with the guilty of housing. He proved that he knew, in shackles! And children should not lose at home!

[Alf]

Quote: Logall

The fact of the matter is that on bunks, and not deprive the innocent, along with the guilty of housing. He proved that he knew, in shackles! And children should not lose at home!

So the father should say to his son, a bandit. Look at your children and think about their fate.

[Logall]

Consider the option when the future terrorist is "FUCKING WOODEN"! He does not care about his son, father, mother (there are many of these in every country; city; street; yard). His father tells him that he was in, to say the least, bad company. He nods, says he will not set the children up, mother. And in his thoughts, the shahid’s belt is trying on. And what is the result: Father knew, but did not surrender. He is in prison. His (shahid) mother with his wife and children on the street. Who will shelter potential jihadists? And they will have their own children.
Draw your own conclusions!

[Alf]

Quote: Logall

Consider the option when the future terrorist is "FUCKING WOODEN"! He does not care about his son, father, mother (there are many of these in every country; city; street; yard). His father tells him that he was in, to say the least, bad company. He nods, says he will not set the children up, mother. And in his thoughts, the shahid’s belt is trying on. And what is the result: Father knew, but did not surrender. He is in prison. His (shahid) mother with his wife and children on the street. Who will shelter potential jihadists? And they will have their own children.

But the "bloody tyrant" was like that. The father collaborated with the investigation, is innocent and did not touch the family. Hid the son of a bandit, get it to the full, and the children in an orphanage.

[Logall]

Quote: Alf

and children in the orphanage.

If relatives did not agree to shelter.
And do not forget: it was a country of developed socialism. All property belonged to the STATE! Children received an education, a profession, and when they came of age or when they went to work, they received housing at the expense of the state. And not for the "rabid babosiks" who still need to earn paying for rented accommodation ...

[reservist]

Quote: Logall

... it was a country of developed socialism. All property belonged to the STATE!

it's in the cities ... my grandmother had her own five-wall hut
but you’re right, you wouldn’t leave a worker or student without a roof over his head (albeit in a hostel or in a rented room) ...

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

The fact of the matter is that on bunks, and not deprive the innocent, along with the guilty of housing

I have never seen a homeless family of terrorists.
for a week, grandmas come from Iran, Qatar or Turkey - and build a new house.

[Logall]

Quote: tamnun

grandmas come from Iran, Qatar or Turkey

Forgot to add to the list: UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt. And if it comes to Syria, Libya and Lebanon, then Israel.
Tear down your houses !!!

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

Aby included in the list: UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt

no they don’t sponsor

Quote: Logall

And if it comes to Syria, Libya and Lebanon

?????

[Logall]

I beg you, do not sponsor?
UAE and Saudi sponsor militants in Syria. With Egypt in Libya. Israel checked in EVERYWHERE. Or who explodes in the interests of the “God-chosen” righteous?

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

I beg you, do not sponsor?
UAE and Saudi sponsor militants in Syria. With Egypt in Libya

Do not jump off topic. If we are talking about the Palestinian Authority, these are one.
Syria - others
Libya - the third.
You don’t understand anything about it - so at least read for a start

Quote: Logall

Israel checked in EVERYWHERE

Well, yes.
We rule the world in general, didn’t you know?

Quote: Logall

Or who explodes in the interests of the “God-chosen” righteous?

For example ?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Black Colonel

As an option, let the terrorist’s relatives themselves give out their non-roading fellow tribesman if they don’t want them to be demolished.

And so it most often happens.

[Alex Justice]

demolition of terrorist homes can have a psychological impact
Do you like the experience of the Nazis?
Where is the State Department statement?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex Justice

Where is the State Department statement?

In a rhyme.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Logall

Do you know all your relatives? In the Russian Federation the right sector, the OUN UPA, etc. recognized as terrorist.
Buy a house in Russia!

Among my relatives there are no representatives of these organizations and I hope it will not. As for the apartment in Russia, I would buy it with pleasure, but alas, I can’t afford it, which is why I remain in Ukraine.

[mahoney]

It's funny, I'm on the contrary trying to move to the "capital of fascism", start my own business, and I also can’t make money))

[vladfill]

Israel is a terrorist state that colonized the state of Palestine and
creating on its territory the genocide of the Arab population of Palestine. Following him
Israel, the logic of behavior with terrorists is subject to similar actions
those that it, Israel, applies to terrorists.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: vladfill

Israel is a terrorist state

It is strange to hear this from a resident of the country whose special services financed and trained decades terrorists of all stripes, from the "Red Brigades" to the PFLP, and staged dozens of "red" coups around the world.

Quote: vladfill

colonized state of Palestine

And also the state of Narnia, and the state of Netland.

Quote: vladfill

and creating on its territory the genocide of the Arab population

Quote: vladfill

Following him, Israel, the logic of behavior with terrorists, it is subject to actions similar
those that it, Israel, applies to terrorists.

Well, just a champion in double standards and hypocrisy!
Relatives of the militants will be deported from Chechnya and destroyed at home, said Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov.

[Bamse]

How many terrorist attacks carried out by the US terrorist organization Gladio created by the United States are attributed to the Red Brigades? By the way, the Red Brigades had contacts not only with Statni Bespecnost and the PLO, but also with Mossad (testimony of Alberto Franceschini).

“Cases proved in the COURT when the terrorist acts originally attributed to the“ leftists ”were actually committed by neo-fascists with the support of the special services.
Here are just some of them:
12.12.1969/17/88, explosion at the Piazza Fontana in Milan, XNUMX were killed, XNUMX were injured
31.05.1972/3/XNUMX, explosion in Peteano, XNUMX carabinieri killed
28/05/1974, explosion in Brescia, 8 killed, more than 90 injured.
4.08.1974/12/48, explosion on the Italicus Express train, killed XNUMX, injured XNUMX.
2.08.1980/85/200, the explosion at the station in Bologna, killed XNUMX, injured XNUMX.
May-June 1978 - abduction and murder of Aldo Moro. This action of the Red Brigades is completely impossible to explain if we consider them exclusively as "allies of the USSR", because Moreau advocated a "historical compromise" - the inclusion of the KPI in the government, which would be a balm for the Soviets. But this crime fits perfectly into the logic of the American secret instruction Field Manual 30-31B, which prescribes the infiltration of their agents into leftist groups with the aim of radicalizing them and subsequently discrediting the Left Movement as a whole. Naturally, the US Army denies the authenticity of these instructions, but Licio Gelli, the former head of the Masonic lodge Propaganda Due (P2), at one time admitted that he received a copy of this document personally from a CIA officer. It is well known that by 1974 the first generation of leaders of the Red Brigades (which the Czechoslovak special services probably supported) were already in Italian prisons, and they were probably replaced by people recruited by the Americans. What is characteristic, it was from 1974 that a series of the most bloody and high-profile terrorist acts committed by the KB began.
.
This list of ultra-right crimes includes the bloody terrorist attack in Munich at the Oktoberfest festival on September 26.09.1980, 5 (13 days before the election!), When 219 were killed and XNUMX were injured. "

http://enews.md/articles/view/1712

[Maz]

Yak can and do fight, above the head to jump or do not know how, or do not want, or are very afraid

[Dezinto]

Nnnu in the life that they arranged for themselves and in those realities in which they exist, this is probably the right decision ....

It’s such a war - people hate people, each other - personally !. And enough of these songs that politicians are to blame, that they say that they make bad decisions up there, no, nifiga, people just are filled with hatred!

[The black]

Israel is 100 percent right in this matter. We must give them their due - they do not stand on ceremony with the terrorists ...

[zenion]

After all, the Jews in 1947-48 did the same thing that the Palestinians are doing now. But the Jews call their deeds the struggle for the freedom of Israel. When the Palestinians blow up and kill and say that for the freedom of the Palestinian people, those freedom fighters call these freedom fighters, those very acts - those liberators - these terrorists. And everyone pretends that everything is correct. While the Germans were killing the Soviet people - everything was right, when the Red Army killed the enemy in its den, the current jackals scream that everything was wrong.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: zenion

While the Germans were killing the Soviet people - everything was right, when the Red Army killed the enemy in its den, the current jackals scream that everything was wrong.

Something I don’t remember cases where Soviet partisans would blow up and slaughter German women and children in Germany, because they are Germans.

[zenion]

If you are on, then at least understand what you read. They killed the enemies, but did not kill as the Germans and the Israelis were now killing. You are so crazy that you don’t know - the den - Hitler’s bunker.

[Vladimirets]

"The fact is that the terrorist family does not own the whole house, but one of the apartments."

It's cool, you live like that in a five-story building, and then, fig! !, the neighboring entrance was demolished, because there the dude attacked the police.

"The demolition of terrorist houses can have a psychological impact on those who are about to join the ranks of terrorist groups"

More like a ritual action.

[The black]

Quote: Vladimirets

It's cool, you live like that in a five-story building, and then, fig! !, the neighboring entrance was demolished, because there the dude attacked the police.

Neighbors Naado choose .... and there will be all the rules ... well, and seriously, nobody’s demolishing the neighboring apartments .... only a quarter terrorist will come in handy when the house is demolished

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Black

Neighbors need to choose ..

Yeah, I looked around the apartment like that, and then to the seller: no, I won’t take it, I didn’t like the dude from the 74th.

Quote: Black

only a quarter of a terrorist will be useful for living

Imagine a picture of knocking out panels over my apartment or pouring foam on a neighboring apartment.

Quote: Black

mly demolished house

I do not agree, I have not yet given a mortgage.

[The black]

Quote: Vladimirets

It's cool, you live like that in a five-story building, and then, fig! !, the neighboring entrance was demolished, because there the dude attacked the police.

Neighbors Naado choose .... and there will be all the rules ... well, seriously, nobody’s demolishing the neighboring apartments .... only a quarter terrorist is useful for living or the house belonging to him (his family) is demolished

[igor67]

Quote: Vladimirets

"The fact is that the terrorist family does not own the whole house, but one of the apartments."
It's cool, you live like that in a five-story building, and then, fig! !, the neighboring entrance was demolished, because there the dude attacked the police.
"The demolition of terrorist houses can have a psychological impact on those who are about to join the ranks of terrorist groups"
More like a ritual action.

I remember there was such a case, they simply flooded the apartment with concrete. And the neighbors didn’t suffer. In 2002, a terrorist suicide bomber blew himself up in a bus. Before that, he warned two Arab women traveling on this bus, although they had time before the next stop and they could tell. In short, the next day their father brought both to the police.

[Baloo]

I remember there was such a case, they just flooded the apartment with concrete. And the neighbors did not suffer.

I’m not an architect and didn’t study compromising materials, but something tells me this bike is not real.

[igor67]

Quote: Balu

I remember there was such a case, they just flooded the apartment with concrete. And the neighbors did not suffer.

I’m not an architect and didn’t study compromising materials, but something tells me this bike is not real.

not only architects learn technical specialties, but at the expense of tales, the house of a Palestinian Al Abu Deyn, who shot eight people in a Jewish religious school in March 2008, was flooded with concrete. This was reported on the website of the newspaper Yediot Ahronoth.

The operation to pour concrete over two floors of a building in East Jerusalem, where the Abu Deyn family lives, was carried out by the Israeli Rear Services Directorate. The terrorist’s father was not able to reverse this decision. According to Newsru.co.il, the house itself will not be demolished, as other families live in it. The Israelis poured concrete only the premises belonging to the relatives of the terrorist.

[Baloo]

An operation to pour concrete over two floors of a building in East Jerusalem, where the Abu Deyn family lives, was carried out by the Israeli Rear Services Directorate. [quote = igor67]
And the house is not warped? Neighbors below not hurt?

[Alf]

Quote: Balu

And the house is not warped? Neighbors below not hurt?

So the house was not built by Tajiks, not jamsut with mahmud.

[zenion]

Palestinians are building houses in Israel, and some of them are getting rich, as is customary in Judaism. Go nafik, God will give.

[Professor]

Quote: Balu

I remember there was such a case, they just flooded the apartment with concrete. And the neighbors did not suffer.

I’m not an architect and didn’t study compromising materials, but something tells me this bike is not real.

I confirm. The case is real.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: igor67

just flooded the apartment with concrete. and the neighbors were not injured.

I’m on my guard if a concrete block weighing tons of 100-120 will constantly hang over my head.

[Raindragon]

The weight of one floor slab is one and a half tons on average. Fill the floor - home kapets. Unless, of course, the floor is not the first)

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: igor67

just flooded the apartment with concrete. and the neighbors were not injured.

I’m on my guard if a concrete block weighing tons of 100-120 will constantly hang over my head.

Foam concrete - cellular concrete having a porous structure due to closed pores (bubbles) throughout the volume, obtained by hardening a solution consisting of cement, sand, water and a foaming agent.
The foam concrete product has a multiple less than the concrete mass.

[_Ugene_]

well, let's shoot now the whole family, which is already there, but they say Stalin was a tyrant

[Settlement Oparyshev]

It can be buried in pork skins. They say it helps.

[The black]

Quote: pp to Oparyshev

It can be buried in pork skins. They say it helps.

Who says? Those who were buried in them?

[Black Colonel]

It can be buried in pork skins. They say it helps.
Who says? Those who were buried in them?
No, associates of the buried told.

[DEPARTMENT]

According to the Israeli authorities, the demolition of terrorist houses can have a psychological impact on those who are going to join the ranks of terrorist groups

This is not a fight against terrorists, but the sweeping of the territory (genocide of the indigenous people) and the liberation of the territory for Israeli settlements (I think the map doesn’t need to be shown ..?) The world community doesn’t need to powder your brains “you are our fighters” .. hehe hell all around you burn and hundreds of thousands of peaceful people die for some reason .. And you are sitting under the dome and with nuclear weapons and are struggling strangely, like all this!

[Black5Raven]

stop writing devils what

[warriordima]

I agree, because you can judge relatives for not informing or harboring therts, impose a fine or arrest, but depriving children and the elderly of shelter is direct genocide, an undeclared war.

[tamnun]

Quote: warriordima

o deprive shelter of children and the elderly

do not go with European standards, the Middle East
moreover, parents from all these hundreds of terrorists, because of whom they have never declared their homes destroyed
- such as our son hoopoe and we condemn the creation of him.
never heard

Quote: warriordima

then direct genocide

read the meaning of the word genocide

Quote: warriordima

undeclared war.

war is declared by the way.

[Logall]

Quote: tamnun

parents of all these hundreds of terrorists, because of whom they have never declared their homes destroyed
- such as our son hoopoe and we condemn the creation of him.
never heard

Have you listened to them? Have you ever come close to them? Not to kick.
In the Caucasus, where I live, there are many such parents!

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

Have you listened? Have you ever come close to them? Not to kick.

To kick
Why the hell to kick them?

Quote: Logall

Have you ever come close to them?

We work together regularly

Quote: Logall

Have you listened?

I listened more than once.

[Logall]

So they will not tell you anything - you destroyed their house! And this is worse than a kick ...

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

So they will not tell you anything - you destroyed their house!

What won't they say? What is condemned?
House do not ruin the next day
This is a long procedure and the family has the opportunity to appeal in court.
Including in court to prove that they did not know and condemn.
Only now I have not heard that they would condemn.
The threat of house demolition is a deterrent. Weak - but a factor.

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

In the Caucasus, where I live, there are many such parents!

who say, like son of a hoopoe?
Because they are afraid.
You just do not tell me tales, Arabs and Caucasians - one mentality.
Clans, families - everyone knows where their children are, what they do.
If their (Caucasians) rodaks knew that there would be nothing for their son, they would rebuild the house, appoint a pension and whatever they would later bawl - they would not be sent to prison.
I would see how they would condemn.
As I read an interesting fact, my parents are being questioned - where is the son? We don’t know they say where, what, when - they have not been seen for a long time.
And how the clash with the feds and the son of a shot --- suddenly do not take off - the grave in the family cemetery is brand new. And where did it come from? Who brought the corpse? How to get in touch?
You say this was not in Chechnya and Ingushetia (and still)?
So humpback molding is different.

[Logall]

Quote: tamnun

You say this was not in Chechnya and Ingushetia (and still)?

It was, is, and will be! Both my and your facts are separate, but many times repeated precedents that require a separate trial for each case. We dump them all into one. You are yours, I am yours. Each in his own right. Therefore, I propose to finish. Anyway, citing many examples, everyone will remain in their own opinion. The discussion becomes meaningless ...

So humpback molding is different.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Logall

Have you listened to them?

And very carefully.
The mother of the terrorist Amar al-Abad, who committed the attack in Halamish, was detained on the night of July 25 for calling for the murder of Jews.
In a video posted on Arabic-language social networks, the terrorist’s mother says: “I’m proud of my son and hope that Allah called him.” She also advises other Palestinians to take an example from her son.
I recall:
On Friday, July 21, near 21.30, 19-year-old Amar al-Abad, a resident of the Arab village of Kubar, having penetrated the security fence, massacred the Solomon family’s house, which is located near the separation facility. The terrorist attacked with a knife at the family sitting at the Saturday table. 70-year-old Yosef Solomon, his 46-year-old daughter Haya Solomon, and 36-year-old son Elad Solomon were killed. Tova, the wife of the murdered Yosef, was seriously injured.

[padded jacket]

From the beginning, Israel occupied Arab Palestine, leaving millions of its inhabitants without a homeland without work, without work, without their religious shrines, and now, sparing no effort and resources at an accelerated pace, it’s “fighting terrorism”, it’s some kind of masochism

[NIKNN]

Quote: quilted jacket

From the beginning, Israel occupied Arab Palestine, leaving millions of its inhabitants without a homeland without work, without work, without their religious shrines, and now, sparing no effort and resources at an accelerated pace, it’s “fighting terrorism”, it’s some kind of masochism

Well, whose states students are creating terrorism and are fighting it, as it were, and doing what they want to the tune ... That makes sense. The other day, the representative of Israel in the post "Israeli Ambassador to Russia: Our Golan Heights!" not ambiguously stated that they were already drooling with difficulty swallowing, looking at the rest of the Golan ...

Quote: Oleg7700

1 August 2017 15: 27
Judging by the information recently issued by the IDF officially, at burial. the Golan territory of which Israeli assistance is provided, 200.000 Syrians (including refugees) live and dozens (80?) of settlements. It is clear that any Iranian-Shiite, “with comrades,” attempt to create a threat to Israel from here will lead to the occupation of this part of the IDF by the IDF, you will not go anywhere - a zone of absolute, real life interests. In war, as in war ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: NIKNN

The other day, the representative of Israel in the post "Israeli Ambassador to Russia: Our Golan Heights!" not ambiguously stated that they were already drooling with difficulty swallowing, looking at the rest of the Golan ...

This reminds me very much of the words of the Nazi Hitler who claimed that ALL the lands around him are living space for the Aryans.

[zenion]

How did he pass the KGB exam. They didn’t take fools there. The traitors to the homeland and the oath were taken, but there are no fools!

[Baloo]

Quote: zenion

How did he pass the KGB exam. They didn’t take fools there. The traitors to the homeland and the oath were taken, but there are no fools!

He opened the textbook from the right page and passed the exam.

[Netwallker]

The most important contradiction of the Quran is its contradiction of reality. For example, historical chronology:
“He is the One who carried His slave at night to show him some of Our signs, from the Sanctuary Mosque to the Al-Aqsa Mosque ...” (Al-Isra, 1).
Moreover, the "night transfer" happened in 619.
And the Al-Aqsa Mosque was built in 636 after the death of Muhammad.

Can Muslims at least explain to themselves how Muhammad could visit the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, which was built only 17 years after the "Isra" by Caliph Omar, during the "night shift"?
Or did he think he visited the Second Temple? Which at that time was already five and a half centuries how destroyed?

I note that Muslim theologians can’t get away from a literal interpretation because the “true” Abu Bakr managed to visit that mosque before Muhammad and confirmed his story: “Then (Abu Bakr) got up, came to the Messenger of Allah and said:“ O Prophet of Allah! Did you tell these people that you were in the Holy House in Jerusalem tonight? ” He answered: "Yes." Said, “O Prophet of Allah! You describe it to me, I was there. " The Prophet said: "He was raised for me so that I could look at him." And the Prophet began to describe him for Abu Bakr. And Abu Bakr says: “You say it right ...” ”(Ibn Hisham;“ Biography of the Prophet Muhammad ”).

How could Abu Bakr confirm the story of Muhammad about the “Holy House in Jerusalem”, referring to the fact that he himself was “there” when neither the Second Temple, nor the Al-Aqsa Mosque, nor the Kubbat al-Sahra Mosque were there at that moment?

[Baloo]

Quote: Netwallker

The most important contradiction of the Quran is its contradiction of reality. For example, historical chronology:
“He is the One who carried His slave at night to show him some of Our signs, from the Sanctuary Mosque to the Al-Aqsa Mosque ...” (Al-Isra, 1).
Moreover, the "night transfer" happened in 619.
And the Al-Aqsa Mosque was built in 636 after the death of Muhammad.
Can Muslims at least explain to themselves how Muhammad could visit the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, which was built only 17 years after the "Isra" by Caliph Omar, during the "night shift"?
Or did he think he visited the Second Temple? Which at that time was already five and a half centuries how destroyed?
I note that Muslim theologians can’t get away from a literal interpretation because the “true” Abu Bakr managed to visit that mosque before Muhammad and confirmed his story: “Then (Abu Bakr) got up, came to the Messenger of Allah and said:“ O Prophet of Allah! Did you tell these people that you were in the Holy House in Jerusalem tonight? ” He answered: "Yes." Said, “O Prophet of Allah! You describe it to me, I was there. " The Prophet said: "He was raised for me so that I could look at him." And the Prophet began to describe him for Abu Bakr. And Abu Bakr says: “You say it right ...” ”(Ibn Hisham;“ Biography of the Prophet Muhammad ”).
How could Abu Bakr confirm the story of Muhammad about the “Holy House in Jerusalem”, referring to the fact that he himself was “there” when neither the Second Temple, nor the Al-Aqsa Mosque, nor the Kubbat al-Sahra Mosque were there at that moment?

True Muslims will forgive me, but as far as I know Muhammad was a petty merchant and his free retelling of the Bible took place 300 years after the advent of Christianity. And then he was supported by his father-in-law, a larger and more reputable merchant.
Once again I apologize to believers of both faiths. For me, the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, literary and historical monuments of culture that have come down to our times, some collections of moral, ethical and historical information, including myths.

[Logall]

Oh, I do not advise religion to touch! Not one of ...
I am an Orthodox Christian, but I respect the right to any religion. Even atheism (i.e. your HERESY). And if this is all for you cultural and historical monuments, then discuss them on the relevant sites ...

[tamnun]

Quote: Logall

I am an Orthodox Christian, but I respect the right to any religion. Even atheism (i.e. your HERESY).

Heresy (dr. Greek αἵρεσις - “choice, direction, school, doctrine, sect” [1]) - a conscious deviation from religious doctrine considered by someone to be faithful, offering a different approach to religious doctrine. Thus, representatives of two different religious teachings can mutually accuse each other of heresy.

An atheist cannot carry HERESY a priori.

[Logall]

And again, one, two, three:

Quote: tamnun

An atheist cannot carry HERESY a priori.

1
Atheism - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org ›Atheism
... the reign of Theodosius, Christianity became the state religion of Rome, heresy became a punishable crime [106]. ... Many theologians and Christian apologists claim that atheism is a peculiar form of religion
2
Forms of Freethinking
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The expression of the struggle against God as a form of free thought is the well-known myth of Prometheus. As a form of criticism, the struggle against God can come close to heresy, atheism, and religious nihilism.
3
The essence of atheism as a form of free thought
studopedia.ru ›... 17079_sushchnost-ateizma-kak-odnoy
...
The form of free thought in relation to religion is atheism (Greek - godlessness). ... One of the features of the mid-century heresy was their anticlericalism.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Logall

One of the features of the mid-century heresy was their anticlericalism.

For example, I am an agnostic apatheist, but a convinced anti-clerical.
Confessional mediation in such an intimate moment as a person’s fellowship with God means holding a candle for someone and giving advice on a conjugal night.

[Logall]

THIS IS CALLED- "row by yourself"! I demonstrated the options as an example. Only three. Of the spiritual multitude, which, with a different interpretation, everyone can try on ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Balu

For me, the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, literary and historical monuments of culture that have come down to our times, some collections of moral, ethical and historical information, including myths.

I support on 200%.
The bloodiest atrocities in human history have occurred "in the name of faith." And today, a significant part of human suffering stems from religious intolerance, religious wars, religious extremism, and the waste of resources for religious needs.

[padded jacket]

Quote: KGB_CRU

These are all driven Arabs from neighboring countries for terrorism.

And it says a Jewish emigrant who came to Israel from Russia?
Yes, you have practically no “local” Jews there, you’re almost all emigrants or children or grandchildren of emigrants, that is, people “alien” to the Middle East since you lived anywhere in Russia Europe USA Australia but not in BV and your Israel is ARTIFICially CREATED TERRITORIAL EDUCATION by decision of the UN ..

[Netwallker]

That is, the Jews did not live in the Arab countries? The census of Palestine was google, in which desert did you find millions? Or did they live in a swamp and did not rewrite them? When this UN created the countries, this organization does not have such goals or powers.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Netwallker

That is, the Jews did not live in the Arab countries?

Why did a small number live but very few in the same British Palestine you had a force of hundreds of thousands, the rest came either immediately before the war or during or after it, so you immigrants because of this Arabs didn’t want to see “come along” on their land where they have lived for centuries.

[Shahno]

Well, yes, he occupied after the attack at times a superior enemy. Opponents of Israel have decided that the UN means nothing. It is necessary to answer for their decisions.

[_Ugene_]

I would like to hear from our Israeli friends how they value this practice.

[Netwallker]

It helps, not so long ago, dad called and his son was caught before.
In general, he is at home and is still raking from his dad.

[_Ugene_]

In short approve?

[Logall]

Of course approve! All but one. Read the comments, I fought with them for half a night.

Quote: _Ugene_

In short approve?

[_Ugene_]

Some kind of Middle Ages, I wonder how easily it blows away all civilization from people

[Logall]

It just didn't touch them! But if he touches, they will not run to you with us, but to the LIBERALS! Mol- Anal protect! And then he will use them!
Believers ...

[Atlant-1164]

if people are fighting the invaders, and call these fighters terrorists .. then I am silent. if anyone has not seen a map of Israel in internationally recognized borders look. you will be interested ..

[Atlant-1164]

I am not against Israel, I am for it, but within the borders defined by the UN in 1947.

[Black5Raven]

But it was not enough for the Arabs, and you yourself know the result. So late, the borders will remain unchanged to the displeasure of the Arabs. They attacked - they lost and are reaping these fruits.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Atlant-1164

I am not against Israel, I am for it, but within the borders defined by the UN in 1947.

And why then are you outraged that the west for Russia is within the borders of 1545?
Hypocrisy however.

[andy.v.lee]

A similar "practice" has been carried out by China, since the time of Mau chopping off pieces of territories from the Russian Federation, the countries of the USSR, India (in general their impudence knows no boundaries), Bhutan. Plus there are claims to all to the states with whom they border. There are no “claims” to the Russian Federation, but in reality they remain.

[padded jacket]

Quote: andy.v.lee

A similar "practice" has been carried out by China, since the time of Mau chopping off pieces of territories from the Russian Federation, the countries of the USSR, India (in general their impudence knows no boundaries), Bhutan.

Between China and Israel there is a small difference. The fact is that in the recent past, China owned some of these territories. Israel is an ARTIFICIALLY created state by the decision of the UN (or, to be more exact, the countries of the victors in the Great Patriotic War) with UN-DEFINED borders.

[andy.v.lee]

The principle is the same. The difference is in greed. Some time ago, Vietnam also owned part of South China, so that they may have claims. Equally in one - the "chosen nation" among both Jews and the "middle imperials".

[Netwallker]

Riverbank Jordan? Where did Jordan come from in Samaria? She is only in Judea.

[Professor]

Quote: Netwallker

sang to visit that mosque to Muhammad and confirmed his story: “Then (Abu Bakr) stood up, at

And they Jordan flows into the Red Sea. Victims of education reform however.

[zenion]

The river is from God. Wherever he wants, he flows there. It will come in during and will flow into the Caspian.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: zenion

Wherever he wants, he flows there.

Fall out of the borders of our country, preferably permanently.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Atlant-1164

if people are fighting the invaders, and call these fighters terrorists .. then I am silent.

That is, when the metro is blown up in Russia is terrorism, and when in Israel is the “struggle for freedom"?
Himself not sick of his lecimeria? Do not stutter then about the double standards from the West, deserved.

[Holoy]

I like the Israeli experience!

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Holoy

I like the Israeli experience!

You are naive ...! They simply exterminate "the Indians, as in the USA." They and Iran will also seize Syria ...

We Russians did not come to Syria for a reason ... We studied them too well at home!

[Holoy]

I'm not naive, I'm smart! Israel is a sane state, and the countries you named themselves do not want peace with Israel ...
We are in Syria not because of Israel, but because of the United States. We need to leave Syria to Serbia, there in the Balkans we the USA will get to the liver faster ...

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Holoy

I'm not naive, I'm smart!

All questions are no longer for you .. Goodbye!

[Baloo]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Quote: Holoy

I'm not naive, I'm smart!

All questions are no longer for you .. Goodbye!

Why, it's such a rare occasion to chat with a genius

[zenion]

If this were the way you wrote, then the UN doctors would give the country a special reference. Everyone would wear straitjackets, and women in straitjackets.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Quote: Holoy

I like the Israeli experience!

You are naive ...! They simply exterminate "the Indians, as in the USA." They and Iran will also seize Syria ...
...
We Russians did not come to Syria for a reason ... We studied them too well at home!

Well, it’s understandable. They want to recreate the Khazar Kaganate again ... Yes, they all remember how the first Kaganate ended)) The second will end in about the same way, if not worse.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Geisenberg

They want to recreate the Khazar Kaganate again ...

[Netwallker]

You are naive ...! They just exterminate the "Indians, as in the USA"

By the way about the Indians. American Indians and Australian Aborigines support Israel even more than the Jews themselves.
When they visit Israel, one phrase always sounds: "Do not let them do what they did to us."

[_Jack_]

This suggests that they are illiterate, do not know history and do not understand that they should say it on the wrong side

[And Us Rat]

Quote: _Jack_

This suggests that they are illiterate, do not know history and do not understand that they should say it on the wrong side

Who decided this? Does your “great empire” arrogance of border have? Or do you need to poke your nose for life, so that you don't come off reality?

[_Jack_]

This is the reality. Do you have an inferiority complex about the “Great Empire”? Nothing, you continue to lick the amers ass and everyone will forgive you.

[And Us Rat]

The higher you lift your nose, the faster you stumble.

[_Jack_]

Therefore, the Jews do not stick him out of Uncle Sam’s ass?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: _Jack_

Therefore, the Jews do not stick him out of Uncle Sam’s ass?

In your obscene fantasies.

[_Jack_]

Unfortunately in reality

[And Us Rat]

In your purely individual reality.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Netwallker

You are naive ...! They just exterminate the "Indians, as in the USA"

By the way about the Indians. American Indians and Australian Aborigines support Israel even more than the Jews themselves.
When they visit Israel, one phrase always sounds: "Do not let them do what they did to us."

I even know what they are told and who finances them! heh heh heh .. you Jews, always get out .. Well done!
And these words "Do not let them do what they did to us." said the old leader to the question of the advertising astronaut of the United States to the Indian, "Here we are flying to the moon, and if we meet aliens, what can they convey from you ..?"
The old leader quietly muttered precisely this phrase in his language ..! This is an old bike ...

[zenion]

This they took place in all the wards of the camp, where they give lectures between injections. They frightened the main half-reformer to death with words, if he didn’t give them lectures, they would call lecturers from Sporotloto. I saw their Indians and Australians. They are on the same territory in the third building and partly from the second half.

[Professor]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Quote: Holoy

I like the Israeli experience!

You are naive ...! They simply exterminate "the Indians, as in the USA." They and Iran will also seize Syria ...

We Russians did not come to Syria for a reason ... We studied them too well at home!

Mihan, the Shnobel Prize will be earned like this.

In the 1926 year, Jews were called "Palestinians", but the Philistines were not yet invented. All these territories belonged neither to those nor to others, but to Brinians. It was they who began the mapping of Palestine from Nitzana.

In the 1946 year, there is also no mention of the Fylists and the whole territory belongs to the same Britons.

In the 1967, the Philistines came up with the 3 of the year. Prior to this, not a single Arab leader uttered this word, and Assad, for example, later said that there were no Philistines and all Palestinian Arabs were Syrians. Green on your map marks the territories of Jordan and Egypt.

In 2010, the color of Galilee was amused by the green color. It turns out I, as your resident, is now in your opinion a Fylistian.

About the "exterminate." Under our rule, the population of Arabs is growing so much that you do not dream. Curtain.
http://www.newsru.com/finance/03aug2017/demoru.ht
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[padded jacket]

Quote: professor

In the 1926 year, Jews were called "Palestinians", but the Philistines were not yet invented. All these territories belonged neither to those nor to others, but to Brinians. It was they who began the mapping of Palestine from Nitzana.

In the 1946 year, there is also no mention of the Fylists and the whole territory belongs to the same Britons.

In the 1967, the Philistines came up with the 3 of the year. Prior to this, not a single Arab leader uttered this word, and Assad, for example, later said that there were no Philistines and all Palestinian Arabs were Syrians. Green on your map marks the territories of Jordan and Egypt.

Usual Israeli propaganda designed to prove supposedly some kind of rights to this land of Jews.
Palestine is still a problem. ISRAEL TERRORISM

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: professor

Mihan, the Shnobel Prize will be earned like this.

Send a card number kuda ..?

Quote: professor

About the "exterminate." Under our rule, the population of Arabs is growing so much that you do not dream. Curtain.

Why don’t you breed like Arabs and Chinese ..? Here you will be under our authority, immediately start to multiply exponentially .. (you are 6 million, immediately at 60 ..))))
Under your authority (what’s the word for Freud directly professor ..) There will be only jackals and vultures feeding on carrion and corpses .. When is the next airstrike in Syria ..?

[Netwallker]

When is the next airstrike in Syria ..?

Overslept? Or didn’t you report? Two days ago at the Damascus airport,
UFOs angulated some kind of cargo. Later, NGOs from Iran said that they were educational films, prospectuses and other nonsense. And they do not understand why they brought the wrath of Allah.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Send a card number kuda ..?

And she will become more truthful from this?

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Here you will be under our authority ...

The obsession to rule everything and everything, Vitalik, is a complex of slavish mentality.

[Professor]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Why don’t you breed like Arabs and Chinese ..?

Like the Shnobel Prize will be. Meehan mixed in a bunch of Arabs and Chinese.
Our birth rate does not lag behind the Arab one. Moreover, they (as in the entire Islamic world) have a tendency to lower fertility. With us it is constantly growing. In the Islamic State of Iran, the birth rate is at the Russian level, i.e. 1.7 baby to the woman. We have about 3's children per woman. Learn, Meehan.

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Here you will be under our authority, immediately begin to multiply exponentially .. (6 million of you, immediately in 60 will ..))))

Maybe for you under ours? Under our rule, the life expectancy of Arabs is longer than the average for Russia.

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Under your authority (what’s the word for Freud directly professor ..) There will be only jackals and vultures feeding on carrion and corpses .. When is the next airstrike in Syria ..?

I would not in your place call the Fylystynts jackals and vultures feeding on carrion and corpses, but I won’t argue with you either.

[Dym71]

Quote: professor

About the "exterminate." Under our rule, the population of Arabs is growing so much that you do not dream. Curtain.

Oh, my, how it happened that you, dear The Tumba-Yumba tribes somewhere in starving Africa breed even better, I hope you do not need to prove it?
You better tell what usually happens next with the family of a terrorist who has been left homeless, because this is the most important moment!

[tamnun]

Quote: Dym71

You better tell what usually happens next with the family of a terrorist who has been left homeless, because this is the most important moment!

I already wrote, as a rule, grandmothers from Iran, Qatar or Turkey arrive within a week and after 3 months a new house stands.

[Professor]

Quote: Dym71

Oh, my, how it happened that you, respected Tribes of the Tumba-Yumba somewhere in starving Africa multiply even better, I hope you do not need to prove it?

Necessary. Give figures to the studio for life expectancy, child and maternal death. Yes, you compare Russia and Fylystyn.

Quote: Dym71

You better tell what usually happens next with the family of a terrorist who has been left homeless, because this is the most important moment!

Nothing. Fylistynsky sponsors rebuild their new home. True, they lose their work permit in Israel, which is about $ 200 per day. Huge money for them.

PS
This week in the Fylystyna hospital, a fight with a firearm demanding relatives to transfer the Fylystyns for treatment to an Israeli clinic. Apartheid, la.

[Dym71]

Quote: Dym71

The Tumba-Yumba tribes somewhere in starving Africa breed even better, I hope you do not need to prove it?

Quote: professor

Necessary.

But what pedant are you, Prof - longing green Do you have German roots?
World population dynamics. (UN, 1997)

[Professor]

Quote: Dym71

But what pedant are you, Prof - longing green Do you have German roots?

Are present. I myself lived and studied in Germany.

Quote: Dym71

World population dynamics. (UN, 1997)

Thank you of course for the figures of the 1997 year, but where is the level of child and maternal mortality? Where is the birth rate? Where is the life span?
For example, life expectancy:

[Dym71]

Quote: professor

Are present.

It can be seen

Quote: professor

Thank you of course for the numbers of 1997

Prof, toggle switch from the position of "silver carp" please turn off the forecast in the table until 2025, which comes true!

Quote: professor

but where is the level of child and maternal mortality? Where is the birth rate? Where is the life span?

Why do you need to delve into the details when the trend is there? Moreover, there are much more factors of population growth, there are a lot of them, the devil will break his head there!

Associations of factors determining population growth
1 - health care, 2 - life expectancy, 3 - fertility, 4 - infant mortality, 5 - infanticide, 6 - fertility, 7 - sterility, 8 - marriage, 9 - prenatal birth control, 10 - optimal children's living space, 11 - female employment, 12 - group mobility, 13 - group size, 14 - standard of living, 15 - sociocultural system and education, 16 - producing technology, 17 - productivity, 18 - resources, 19 - diet, 20 - potential maximum population, 21 - migration, 22 - territory, 23 - population density, 24 - occupational mortality, 25 - militarism, 26 - population, 27 - maternal mortality, 28 - war, 29 - diseases and epidemics, 30 - killing of old people, 31 - pre-reproductive numbers, 32 - men and 33 - women of reproductive age, 34 - natural mortality, 35-- post-reproductive strength
Here it is, is that all?

[Professor]

Quote: Dym71

rof, toggle-switch from the "silver carp" position, please turn off the forecast in the table until 2025 of the year, which comes true!

Remove this plate, do not disgrace. For example, life expectancy in developed countries is not 75, as in your table, but already much higher.

Quote: Dym71

Why do you need to delve into the details when the trend is there?

What is the trend that "The Tumba-Yumba tribes somewhere in starving Africa breed even better, I hope you don't need to prove it?" ? There is no such tendency. They give birth a lot, but only a few survive.
We were distracted however ...

[Sergey-8848]

Decisiveness is exactly what is felt in Israel’s struggle against terrorism. Without mess and consultations with the UN Security Council and all sorts of different gozman ...

[zenion]

Hitler was decisive, decided to shoot himself and did it. Stalin suggested that this is the only way out of transportation in a cage in the countries of Europe and the USSR, so that the curva would look at what it had done. He decided to shoot himself. And to all those who are few - they will shoot.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: zenion

Hitler was decisive, decided to shoot himself and did it. Stalin suggested that this is the only way out of transportation in a cage in the countries of Europe and the USSR, so that the curva would look at what it had done. He decided to shoot himself. And to all those who are few - they will shoot.

Decisively killed himself from the wall ??? ))) It’s not funny to say such things yourself? He turned out to be a coward. When the time came to answer as a peasant, he merged. Not a fact at all, that the corpse was Hitler ...

[Baloo]

Quote: zenion

Hitler was decisive, decided to shoot himself and did it

And half Jewish by mother.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Balu

And half Jewish by mother.

Lord, grant them brains.

[Sergey-8848]

This young man lacks the knowledge to assess situations and the air for sobering up. Honor is enough, but only until the morning.

[anjey]

Israel extends responsibility to all family members.

something reminiscent of 1937

that such harsh measures could attract into the terrorist structures even the members of the families of criminals left homeless.

Well, yes, people have nothing to lose ... and even parents and relatives cannot influence a stoned, zombied or driven by blind or righteous revenge terrorist .......

[izya top]

Israel continues to show a decisive fight against terrorism.

indirectly supporting Isis by bombing Asad units? Well, well ...

[KGB_TSRU]

Quote: izya top

indirectly supporting Isis by bombing Asad units? Well, well ...

So, you cooperate with Hezbollah - this is a terrorist organization. And Assad - he is our enemy.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

Quote: izya top

indirectly supporting Isis by bombing Asad units? Well, well ...

So, you cooperate with Hezbollah - this is a terrorist organization. And Assad - he is our enemy.

And you cooperate with ISIS and treat terrorists. It’s logical for you to demolish yourself and close yourself in a cage.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

Quote: Geisenberg

Do you cooperate with ISIS and treat terrorists

And what is that in the photo? Is it not the Ishilovites? Prove that it is not they.

Prove first that the doctors are Jews.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

You see, everything is visible in this photo. Not good to do that

I’ll figure out what is good and what’s not without you. My head does not fool.

[padded jacket]

Quote: KGB_CRU

It is not good to treat Igilovites.

So you treat them?

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

here is another photo

I see mastered the search for images in Google ...

Well, let's lay out everything you have there already ...

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

It is not good to treat Igilovites. wrap yourself on a mustache.

Well, don’t heal, something came up to me.

[Baloo]

KGB_CIA Today, 19:06 ↑
Quote: Geisenberg
Do you cooperate with ISIS and treat terrorists
And what is that in the photo? Is it not the Ishilovites? Prove that it is not they.

And you prove that this is not Natanyahu, that he is not in the hospital and does not visit the wounded ISIS:
But from a different angle
Say it is a Syrian refugee
As for your photo, these are more likely cadets of the Military Medical Academy from the USSR

[On guard]

This is not even funny.

Okay, I'll go eat dumplings, otherwise Smirnov starts to ban. Till

he does not touch a padded jacket, Jamaat guys

[izya top]

Quote: KGB_CRU

And Assad - he is our enemy.

so the Jews have all the enemies, except the Germans, they turry.
the Israeli woman for a short period of existence made everyone in the district enemies, moreover, by herself, by her terror.

[KGB_TSRU]

Quote: izya top

made everyone in the neighborhood enemies

You, too, do not say many friends around. So we have Arabs around, and you have co-religionists Slavs - Ukraine, for example.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: KGB_CRU

Quote: izya top

made everyone in the neighborhood enemies

You, too, do not say many friends around. So we have Arabs around, and you have co-religionists Slavs - Ukraine, for example.

Especially fellow believers with us are Japanese, Chinese and Mongols. Of course there are not many friends, but more than yours. You cannot even agree with your allies on your own 314ndos, and you blame the same for Ukraine, where the Nazis brought power to power.

[Baloo]

Quote: KGB_CRU

You, too, do not say many friends around. So we have Arabs around, and you have co-religionists Slavs - Ukraine, for example.

So there, power is in the hands of the small-town bandits of your fellow tribesmen, descendants of traitors and executioners, who all jump and jump to the tune of the FSA and Israel.

[KGB_TSRU]

And I saw that now it’s like they’re not being destroyed by an excavator, but a truck with a hose pulls up and pours everything inside with concrete. Everything is complete.
Maybe they do it like that.

Family members usually always turn out to be terrorists, the destruction of the house is too soft a punishment.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: quilted jacket

From the beginning, Israel occupied Arab Palestine, leaving millions of its inhabitants without a homeland without work, without work, without their religious shrines, and now, sparing no effort and resources at an accelerated pace, it’s “fighting terrorism”, it’s some kind of masochism

I am not a fan of the Jewish state, but I must pay tribute to their fight against terrorists. And on account of the occupation of Arab lands, the Arabs themselves are to blame, they tried to destroy Israel, but they constantly raked and lost their territories. The war in Syria clearly shows how the Arabs are fighting, so the war has been going on for so long. And the family should be responsible for raising geeks, I mean the next of kin. A terrorist - kills ordinary, innocent people, if he is dissatisfied with the authorities, then go storm the institutions in Tel Aviv, fight the army, and children and women.

[zenion]

They fought: Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and they took and made slaves hostages, residents of Palestine who did not leave the earth in search of gold, but remained here to live. They are the biggest enemies of the Jews, who were pushed into Palestine by force.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

but constantly raking and losing their territory.

You just don’t know the history, it was Israel who launched the predatory war of 1967 (not counting some subsequent and previous 1956) when the neighbors lost most of their territories, in particular Palestine was completely occupied and partially annexed.
Although the Arabs started the war of 1948, but due to the fact that on the land on which they lived FOR AGES a UN artificially alien to the region Jewish state called Israel was created
Occupation of Palestine 1948 War of the Year

[Professor]

Quote: quilted jacket

Occupation of Palestine 1948 War of the Year

"quilted jacket", you will drag this filmets from branch to branch and every time I will expose its false essence. As for yourself, as always, you will have nothing to answer except insults.

For more than 1200 years, Muslims ruled Palestine in which Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived quietly.- All this time, Muslim colonialists periodically massacred both Christians and Jews. Not about what "calmly" speech cannot go.

Until 1900, the majority of the population of Palestine were Muslims- By that time, there were more colonizers.

Organized continuous migration of Jews from different parts of the world to the lands of Palestine began- There are no "lands of Palestine" since there has never been any "Palestine". "The relocation began long before the 1900 year and long before the First Zionist Forum.

And this relocation is the main part of the Palestinian problem, since the resettled Jews were the bearers of the Zionist idea according to which the lands of Palestine should entirely belong to them alone. The main problem of Palestine is the lack of the people of Palestine. According to the Zionist idea, Jews have the right to their own state where all its citizens, regardless of faith and nationality, have equal rights. For example, in the Zionist state of Israel, Arabic is the state language.

The first Jewish settlement in Palestine in the year 1878 The first Jewish Temple in Jerusalem was built in the 950 year BC when the word "Palestine" did not yet exist.

At the end of World War I, Britain and France divided Palestine, and Britain promised Jews to establish a Jewish state in the lands of Palestine.- There are no "lands of Palestine" since there has never been any "Palestine". Britain received a mandate from the League of Nations (predecessor) of the UN for the former province of the Ottoman Empire to create two states, Jewish and Arab.

She introduced an illegal framework and facilitated the resettlement process.- The decision of the League of Nations is the legal basis, but Britain itself did not facilitate, but in every way prevented the resettlement of Jews, but not Arabs, sending Jews to concentration camps.

It was a promise to someone who has no right. - of course it does. We look above about the League of Nations.

The share of the Jew grew from 5% in the 1900 year to 31% in the 1947 year - The colonialists could no longer find so much strength to maintain the imbalance.

At the same time, a small percentage of Palestinian lands was still in the hands of the Jews- There were no Palestinian lands. All lands were Ottoman and after World War I became British (under a mandate). The percentage of land in private use was negligible.

8.8% Jewish lands, 91.2% Palestinian- There were no Palestinian lands. In 91.2%, 90% of treasury lands which at that time were under the British mandate and never belonged to the Arabs were driven.

Then disaster struck. 1948 war of the year. - It’s strange to call a “disaster” a war unleashed by you. Rather, call it "stupidity." If the Arabs recognized the UN plan and had not attacked Israel, there would have been no "disaster", but the Arabs would not have been Arabs if they had not missed the opportunity to miss the opportunity.

In May of this year, Britain left Palestine, and the Zionists announced the creation of a Jewish state on its land. not only the entire territory of mandated Palestine, but only on that which the UN approved for these purposes. Moreover, Britain has already created the Arab state of Jordan in the territory of mandated Palestine.

The next day, a war broke out between Arab countries and Jewish Zionists- Arabs did not recognize the UN plan to create an Arab state and attacked Israel.

However, the lack of coordination between the Arab troops, the lack of coordination in command, secret treacherous agreements, the weakness of the Arab army, depletion of supplies and more, all this led to the defeat of the Arabs. Well, what can we say about this? Learn military affairs in this way, gentlemen Arabs.

The war of the 1948 year ended with the occupation by the Zionists of 78% of the Palestinian lands and the formation of a Jewish state on them- No and there were no "Palestinian lands." The mentioned 78% are state lands that are not in anyone's private property and are assigned by the UN to the Jewish state. The lands intended for the Arab state (the word "Palestine" had not yet been invented and the Arab state did not even have a name) occupied Egypt and Jordan.

Thus, the share of occupied land from the 1948 year increased from 9% to 78%- under the Jewish state it was allocated, not 9% of the mandated Palestine, respectively, the formation of a state not allocated by the UN under this territory cannot be called "occupation", but only the implementation of the UN plan.

The consequences of the war. Genocide.- It's true. In the territory of Judea, Samaria and Gaza, not a single Jew remained. At the same time, 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs.

Zionists organize about 50 extermination of Palestinian peoples- we have been waiting for a list of at least 10 “exterminated” Fylystyns for 70 years.

More than 531 settlements in Palestine were bloodstained and completely wiped out during the war. "More than 531" is how much? 531.333? However, it was the Arab leaders who demanded that the Arabs of Mandatory Palestine leave this territory to facilitate the extermination of Jews by the Arab armies. Those Arabs who disobeyed their leaders still live quietly in Israel. The rest have been considered refugees in the "fraternal" Arab countries for 70 years.

10 Thousands of Jews Moved to Palestine Over 850 Years- not to Palestine, but to Israel. It is our business to let someone into our country and who not.

As a result of the war, Jerusalem was divided into East, which was in the hands of the Arabs, and West, which was owned by the Jews. Note that it is not in the hands of the Philistines, but in the hands of the Jordanians. Nobody trusted the Fylystynts except the stall.

After the 1948 year, these Palestinian cities became subordinate to the Zionist entity and the Arabs called them “the cities of the 48 year” or the “lands of the 48 year” or the “occupied Palestinian cities”- These cities have never been Fylystyn. Moreover, the UN singled out these cities under the Jewish state, and not under the Arab state. Israel occupied them at home?

In 1949, Israel officially joined the UN, receiving recognition from influential states- and the Arabs only in 1964 thought up the name "Fylystyn" for their state that they did not create.

For this reason, the war of the 1948 year is called "disaster". Due to the lack of brains, fighting spirit or the desire of the Arab countries to create Fylystyn?

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you will pull this filmets from branch to branch

My advice to you, professor, until it’s too late, don’t go to the synagogue so often and don’t listen to different “Jewish stories” from your rabbis, because they have already “clouded” your “reason” with their propaganda
And then in the end, in your next "conclusions" on this subject, you will "appoint" the Jews as the "higher mind" on planet Earth and the "new Aryans"
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Over the course of 10 years, 850 of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine - not to Palestine, but to Israel.

No state of Israel previously existed, although you certainly do not know this professor, so I give you a certificate:
The modern state of Israel was formed on 14 on May 1948 of the year and earlier (two thousand years ago) the Jewish state of Israel and then Judea might exist, but the basic information about them is only in the Bible, but with all due respect to these books, they are still RELIGIOUS NOT HISTORICAL

[Professor]

Quote: quilted jacket

My advice to you, professor, until it’s too late, don’t go to the synagogue so often and don’t listen to different “Jewish stories” from your rabbis, because they have already “clouded” your “reason” with their propaganda
And then in the end, in your next "conclusions" on this subject, you will "appoint" the Jews as the "higher mind" on planet Earth and the "new Aryans"

I was right.

Quote: professor

As for yourself, as always, you will have nothing to answer except insults.

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Quote: professor

Over the course of 10 years, 850 of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine - not to Palestine, but to Israel.

No state of Israel previously existed, although you certainly do not know this professor, so I give you a certificate:
The modern state of Israel was formed on 14 on May 1948 of the year and earlier (two thousand years ago) the Jewish state of Israel and then Judea might exist, but the basic information about them is only in the Bible, but with all due respect to these books, they are still RELIGIOUS NOT HISTORICAL

Have you ever watched the movie you posted? There it is said that over the course of 10 years after the formation of Israel "850 of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine."

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Quote: professor

I was right.

What are you right about? In the fact that you wrote some kind of unconfirmed (links) proposals you personally came up with?

Quote: professor

There they say that within 10 years after the formation of Israel, "850 thousand Jews moved to Palestine."

So everything is right, you Jews are not an indigenous people for that locality, you are mostly emigrants or children of emigrants, but in Palestine you were a hundred thousand strong and even "spread" over a large territory and the rest are "migrant workers" who, as they say, "came" to This area is why the indigenous Arabs were unhappy that the UN gave you a “piece” of land that did not belong to you against their will.

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All this time, Muslim colonialists periodically slaughtered as Christians

Well, yes, yes, fantasize further and better read and see this:
Jewish persecution of Christians
The glory and triumph of Christianity and its rapid spread aroused fear and hatred among the Jewish leaders. They began to persecute Christians, arouse the simple Jewish people against them and accuse them of Roman authority. The Jews seized the Christians, put them in prison and killed them.

The first to suffer from the Jews in Jerusalem was the holy archdeacon Stephen, named the first martyr (as the first one martyred for Christ).

For the sermon on the Savior, the Jews led him outside the city and began to stone him. He prayed, saying: “Lord Jesus! Receive my spirit,” and then with the words: “Lord, do not blame this sin for them,” he died.
http://verapravoslavnaya.ru/?Gonenie_iudeev_na_hr
istian._Svyatoi_pervomuchenik_Stefan
The persecution of the Jews against the first Christians.


In short, stop the professor to invent different "excuses" for his regime.

[Operator]

Muslims before the first Arab-Israeli war were extremely tolerant of Jews.

Christians, having created the state of Israel, completely atoned for their fault before the Jews (the Inquisition, the Holocaust, etc.).

The Jews have yet to atone for Christianity (inciting class contradictions and civil wars in Europe and America) and Muslims (Palestinian genocide).

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Christians, having created the state of Israel, completely atoned for their fault before the Jews

It seems that Stalin, who made a great contribution to the formation of Israel, was not a Christian but an atheist.

[Operator]

Joseph Dzhugashvili belonged to the Orthodox Christian denomination, moreover, he studied at the seminary after school.

The vast majority of countries that were members of the UN in 1947 and voted to create a Jewish state in part of Palestine belonged to various Christian denominations.

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Joseph Dzhugashvili belonged to the Christian denomination, moreover, he studied at the Orthodox seminary after school.

Well, when did he become a communist, he continued to believe in Jesus?

[Operator]

Faith is a purely personal matter.
In any case, I. Stalin did not liquidate the Russian Orthodox Church, but even expanded it somewhat compared to the situation until 1944 with the election of the head of the Russian Orthodox Church.

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Quote: Operator

Faith is a purely personal matter.

In other words, unknown.

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In any case, I. Stalin did not liquidate the Russian Orthodox Church, but even expanded it somewhat compared to the situation until 1944 with the election of the head of the Russian Orthodox Church.

I read that he did this only in connection with the Second World War to raise the morale of the Red Army and the rear.

[Operator]

Regardless of the personal faith of I. Stalin, the majority of the population of the USSR in 1947 belonged to Christian denominations (Orthodox, Greek Catholic, Catholic and Protestant).

[zenion]

The German, Nazi Nazis, fighting the bandits, as they called the partisans, the fighters for the liberation of the country from the invaders, demolished cities and villages, and not some kind of house. But in Israel they are trying. And not only with the Nazis. If one of the relatives owes the bank, then they do not look for this debtor, but come to the parents' house and take away everything that can be sold for their own. But debt is not erased. In general, with such neighbors that Israel created for itself through its politics, we can say that all the poor people of Israel are hostages. Everything, as written in the Torah, came, saw, robbed, killed.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: zenion

The German, Nazi Nazis, fighting the bandits, as they called the partisans, the fighters for the liberation of the country from the invaders, demolished cities and villages, and not some kind of house. But in Israel they are trying. And not only with the Nazis. If one of the relatives owes the bank, then they do not look for this debtor, but come to the parents' house and take away everything that can be sold for their own. But debt is not erased. In general, with such neighbors that Israel created for itself through its politics, we can say that all the poor people of Israel are hostages. Everything, as written in the Torah, came, saw, robbed, killed.

So what are you? Are you justifying the Nazis?

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Geisenberg

So what are you? Are you justifying the Nazis?

I think he compares methods ... Very similar! Whoever is against Israel must die and lose everything .. A familiar slogan.!

[zenion]

You understood me, but you didn’t understand me from above. An Israeli soldier shot dead a wounded Palestinian. It seems they condemned, but now they want to amnesty. I wrote an example to them, which was already in 1939 - I did not like it. Here is an example: In 1939, the Esesman shot and killed 50 Jews. He was given three years, but was immediately amnestied. In Israel, the same thing happens. But they shout - the comparison is wrong, the German killed the Jews, and then the terrorist was killed. They do not understand that one, that 50 methods are similar.

[DEPARTMENT]

You are historically very careful in comparison ...! But be careful, here criticism of Israel is harshly suppressed ..

[Dym71]

Vitaly, read his comments, this is something!

[Geisenberg]

It makes sense for someone to start hunting directly for those who demolish other people's houses)))) So that those wishing to demolish are reduced)))

[Tolstoevsky]

how cute

[izya top]

Quote: Tolstoevsky

how cute

[bsk_una]

Verbiage will never end terror. As well as with embezzlement. The Russian authorities are trying to fence off both of them, in all likelihood involved in such events. Only ruthlessness can overcome such criminals. And if there are no similar measures, then the government is not able to fight criminals, and most likely does not want to.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: bsk_una

The Russian authorities are trying to fence off both of them, in all likelihood involved in such events.

Well done..!

Quote: bsk_una

And if there are no similar measures, then the government is not able to fight criminals, and most likely does not want to.

Bulk, the president will be able, along with red and Khodorkovsky ....?

[Speak out]

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It can be buried in pork skins. They say it helps.

And who will wrap up? Khokhlov will be called along with the skins?

[Atlant-1164]

find the difference.







and what the Nazis did with the Jews in Poland .. how can a people who have survived the genocide, arrange genocide for another people .. such an incident does not reach me.

[Atlant-1164]

it's like in the army, grandfathers drove us .. now we will drive. only here is different.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Atlant-1164

find the difference.

ONE CHILD!

[igor67]

Quote: Atlant-1164

find the difference.







and what the Nazis did with the Jews in Poland .. how can a people who have survived the genocide, arrange genocide for another people .. such an incident does not reach me.

I only opened the last photo. I have a question, and who is this? what form? maybe Iraq? maybe Afghanistan? but not if not Israel

[Professor]

Quote: igor67

I only opened the last photo. I have a question, and who is this? what form? maybe Iraq? maybe Afghanistan? but not if not Israel

Israel. However, the Fylystynsky photographer chose an “interesting” perspective where supposedly a soldier was aiming at a child. So sometimes Medvedev is higher than Schwarzenegger.

[Staff]

atlant surfaced

[Black5Raven]

You can say anything about this Israeli policy, but they don’t roam for an hour with the severed head of a child. We draw conclusions.

[Logall]

tamnun,

Quote: tamnun

Do not jump off topic. If we are talking about the Palestinian Authority

We are talking about the correctness of the demolition of a terrorist’s housing, anywhere. Or is terrorism only "Islamic" and only you? This time.

Quote: tamnun

Syria - others
Libya - the third.

Forgot about Lebanon.
Israel is still fighting with these states, two of which have almost ceased to exist. These are two.

Quote: tamnun

Quote: Logall
Or who explodes in the interests of the “God-chosen” righteous?
For example ?

And three: On June 15, a UN report was released that stated that Israeli authorities regularly finance and arm Islamist militants fighting against the legitimate government of Syria and its armed forces in the Golan Heights.

The UN Secretary-General stated that the Israeli authorities are supporting terrorist groups in Syria, in particular the Jebhat Al-Nusra *.

A report on the work of the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) from 2 March to 16 May 2017 emphasizes that there have been several reported cases of assistance to armed groups. A total of 16 contacts were registered between the occupying forces and the militants. Israel has repeatedly violated a ceasefire on the Syrian side of the Golan. The Secretary-General called on Israel not to open fire through the ceasefire line, as this could contribute to the escalation of tension in the region.

[Shark Lover]

Quote: Logall

The UN Secretary-General stated that the Israeli authorities are supporting terrorist groups in Syria, in particular the Jebhat Al-Nusra *.

The State of Israel has adopted the practice of double standards. According to their methods (concrete for apartments and relatives' houses) in the Russian Federation in the Birobidzhan region, it is urgent to build a concrete plant for specific needs, and recruit Germans to the brigades.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Logall

Israel is still fighting with these states, two of which have almost ceased to exist.

But Egypt and Jordan do not fight and continue to exist perfectly for themselves.
The conclusion is that feuding with Israel is stupid and not profitable.

[Logall]

Quote: And Us Rat

The conclusion is that feuding with Israel is stupid and not profitable.

I would say, ssykatno! Since in Israel there are shrines of various faiths. Don’t leave a “stone upon a stone” there - you will get the anger of a Fearful, interfaith, but not the most peace-loving, well-armed part of the population.
It’s hard to fight with those whose cities cannot be razed to the ground!

[irazum]

There is no "Palestinian" people. There is a "rabble" that prevents neighbors from living normally.

[Logall]

Quote: irazum

There is no "Palestinian" people. There is a "rabble" that prevents neighbors from living normally.

Do not! Keep your battle hapak with you! There is enough Ukraine. This is the rhetoric of the Nazis. Shave the square under the nose and towards mom.

[Nemo35]

Quote: zenion

Palestinians are building houses in Israel, and some of them are getting rich, as is customary in Judaism. Go nafik, God will give.

And who built this house?
https://youtu.be/ENssrZ-6u98

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Logall

The fact of the matter is that on bunks, and not deprive the innocent, along with the guilty of housing. He proved that he knew, in shackles! And children should not lose at home!

Right And our embezzlers can not be deprived of the loot. And you see, they require the confiscation of the stolen! But what will their children live with?
And it is necessary to plant conditionally ... again, children without a dad cry ... Poor orphanesses, they are sadly left alone to live in the palaces of white-stone. Wives, too, all in tears go to foreign boutiques.
Heartless you people!