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The transfer of the new frigate for the German Navy is delayed

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The transfer of the Baden-Württemberg frigate for the German Navy is being postponed, the navaltoday.com portal reported that ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems and Lürssen, engaged in building ships for the German Navy, could not meet the deadline due to problems with the operational equipment responsible for the operation of automated systems ship


Baden-Württemberg is the first of four ships of the F125 type. Frigate planned to transfer the fleet July 28, a new deadline is set for late August. At the same time, Baden-Württemberg has almost completed the passage of the acceptance test cycle, which includes testing of artillery and missile weapons, reports "Warspot".

The transfer of the new frigate for the German Navy is delayed


A key feature of F125 frigates is a high level of automation. This allows you to serve all the systems of the ship crew of 120 people - two times less than the frigates Bremen type (displacement of these ships is half that of the F125), in service with the German Navy. The military department plans to provide four frigates with eight crews, which will be replaced every four months, which will allow the ships to be constantly on combat duty.

In size, ships of the type F125 are comparable to destroyers, but in Germany they are classified as frigates, making them the largest combat units in their class. The length of Baden-Württemberg is almost 150 m, width - 19 m, draft - 5 m, full displacement reaches 7200 t. F125 frigates are equipped with a combined power plant of the CODLAG type, combining diesel generators and electric motors. One of the features of the new ships is a long maintenance cycle. The frigate must be without maintenance at the base for two years, while performing operations of medium intensity (5000 hours per year).

The frigate Baden-Württemberg is armed with an Otobreda artillery gun of caliber 127 mm and two 27-mm anti-aircraft guns MLG 27. In addition, the ship has launchers for various types of combat missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes. The total cost of building four ships of the F125 type will be € 2,2 billion. Construction of the second ship of the F125 type (Nordrhein-Westfalen) should be completed next year, and two more (Sachsen-Anhalt and Rheinland-Pfalz) - in 2019 year.

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  1. HEATHER
    HEATHER 1 August 2017 17: 17
    +2
    Nda.Customized Claspsdue to problems with operating equipment. Yes, I won’t believe it! Buy the most advanced Elbrus. wassatNot very shiny, but strong.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 1 August 2017 17: 22
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      Automation there is a tube, more like a barge.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 1 August 2017 17: 47
        +5
        Quote: Teberii
        Automation there is a tube, more like a barge
        .
        Tube doesn't mean worse. Firstly, an electromagnetic pulse along the drum. Secondly, they are easy to change.
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 2 August 2017 04: 24
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          well, pedantic burghers don’t do everything during the time))) as well as a good pace if, after 2 years, all 4 vessels are lowered
  2. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 1 August 2017 17: 21
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    a trifle, but nice
  3. Alexander War
    Alexander War 1 August 2017 17: 35
    +3
    I remember here on the site they said that with such a displacement is no longer a frigate but a destroyer. He has good armament.
  4. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 1 August 2017 17: 46
    +7
    It seemed to many that * stuffing * only did not go with us. Ah no! Deutschers also pierced ...
    And the second one. 120 crew per 2,3 CT displacement - good in peacetime. And in the military? Who will lead the BZZ if the ships receive combat damage !? bully
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 1 August 2017 18: 11
      +3
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      in the military? Who will lead the BZZ if the ships receive combat damage !?

      So they have a spare crew in the hold. "The military department plans to provide four frigates with eight crews." smile
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 1 August 2017 19: 03
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        So they have a spare crew in the hold. "The military department plans to provide four frigates with eight crews."

        laughing Appreciated!
        Deutschers, in order to increase the KOH of these * big frigates *, decided to follow the path of Amov submariners: two crews per hull. Moreover, they will * make a transfer * somewhere in the port of visit / call, so that they don’t drive the boat there and beat motor resources ... Khitryugan, however! yes
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 1 August 2017 19: 44
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          We wouldn’t have such a scheme - a motor resource, of course, it costs money, but more than virtual, but tickets for the team back and forth - even if by air traffic, then the airlines really need to pay.
          Yes, and I don’t know how the Germans will occupy the command, which is on the shore, but in order not to get drunk and make disgrace with us, they will fully load it with hozrabot, garrison patrols, so that the sailors will howl from such a "rest".
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 1 August 2017 20: 36
            +4
            Quote: UAZ 452
            tickets for the team back and forth - even if on the airspace, then the airlines really need to pay.

            For example, I flew from Angola to IL-76DM ... Inconvenient, but tolerant ...
            Quote: UAZ 452
            in our country, so as not to get drunk and ugliness not committed, they will fully load with hozrabot, garrison patrols, so that the sailors will howl from such a "rest".
            And here perhaps the 5 OpEsk scheme is suitable: "4-2-4", that is, 4 of the month-BS, 2 of the month - vacation, 4 of the month again at sea, and then 2 of the month - * trip * ... Naturally with partial replacement l / s. But, considering that almost all contract soldiers, I think there will be no problems ...
            Housekeeping - not a profile, contract FIGs force! Garrison patrols are the business of the "boletus" (military police).
            In addition, 2 of the month of “business trip” is at the training center and sanatorium. Passing tests and exams, all kinds of tolerances, working out calculations, etc.
            IMHO.
            1. jjj
              jjj 2 August 2017 11: 52
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              We tried boat crews to change directly to the sea from the side of the cruise ship. But then we realized that it’s better to change boats
    2. Olaf Uksimae
      Olaf Uksimae 1 August 2017 18: 55
      +12
      in 1994, we met in Wilhelshafen with a sailor from the frigate Augsburg, the ship was only a year old as far as I remember, and he drove us two Russian cadets to the ship on the Navy, we in uniform, with a camera, drove us absolutely everywhere, the truth was allowed to be taken only aft,
      the only one room was closed, he apologized and said that it’s always closed and this is the fire control post. We had lunch in the officer’s canteen,
      with the officer on duty, it was remembered that he drank beer and said that it was not forbidden, even in a military campaign 2 bottles of beer during meals
      You can. Not one sideways glance or something like that.
      Then for 20 years with whom just did not have to work from foreigners.
      At the dawn of my career, I had to work with a German grandfather, I was a captain, the only bastard of all Germans with whom I subsequently worked, probably because I was from Kaliningrad and he lived in Koenigsberg :).
      I don’t know, personally my opinion, the Germans, if they hate us, are much smaller than the rest of the Anglo-Saxons, among the Dutch, British and Norwegians
      we generally have a special "love", the Poles from the regions in the west and near the Baltic are normal, the rest is crap, the Americans, by the way, though with prejudices, are normal, but I don’t know South Africans (whites) but they have occupied a niche in the world by working massively divers maybe
      it somehow influences :), ordinary Bulgarians are good fellows in spite of everything, Croats of guano are mainly Arabs, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the rest are very normal, well, the Egyptians and Syrians understandably, studied courses in the Emirates, when the Syrian taught me that I am Russian, interrupted classes and, with a full audience, asked to convey to Mr. Putin many thanks for what our country is doing for Syria, after such a country not to be proud of.
      Ek suffered me, I wanted about the Germans, and then threw it on me :).
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 1 August 2017 19: 19
        +4
        Quote: Olaf Uximae
        Ek suffered me, wanted about the Germans, and then threw it on me.

        When from the heart and from my own experience, it’s interesting.
      2. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 1 August 2017 19: 49
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        But what have we accomplished with the “love” of the Dutch and Norwegians? Maybe the first Peter the Great to whom he dropped an ax on his leg? And the Swedes and the Danes tore the Norwegians from each other, and not particularly ceremoniously with the local population, and here we are? Even our army never reached there, deep into the territory, at least.
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 2 August 2017 04: 29
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          But what have we accomplished with the “love” of the Dutch and Norwegians?
          so we it, not tolerasts and any rainbow any Ale))))
      3. san4es
        san4es 1 August 2017 20: 42
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        Quote: Olaf Uximae
        In 1994, they met in Wilhelshafen with a sailor from the frigate Augsburg.

        ... I saw him (sort of) in the Brunsbüttel gateway in the same year hi

        1. Olaf Uksimae
          Olaf Uksimae 1 August 2017 20: 59
          +3
          The most interesting thing is that when I flew to Namibia in 1997, on my first flight after graduation, the first thing I saw at the pier - Augsburg, I wanted to stop by
          on a visit to the sidekick, but the Amerian ship was standing nearby and the marines were not letting them closer than 100m.
      4. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 2 August 2017 00: 05
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        During the Boer War, Russian volunteers actively helped the South African colonists.
      5. 32363
        32363 2 August 2017 01: 59
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        Quote: Olaf Uximae
        in 1994, we met in Wilhelshafen with a sailor from the frigate Augsburg, the ship was only a year old as far as I remember, and he drove us two Russian cadets to the ship on the Navy, we in uniform, with a camera, drove us absolutely everywhere, the truth was allowed to be taken only aft,.

        Hi from Augsburg, in general, I agree with the assessment, there are some additions.
        and what about the ships, the Bavarians make a good filling for the Navy yes
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 1 August 2017 20: 23
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      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Who will lead the BZZ if the ships receive combat damage

      Given the fact that modern ships are not armored, the likelihood of the very possibility of a BZZH is extremely small. That is, not very serious damage can be repaired, but if a rocket hits, there is nothing to be done.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 2 August 2017 00: 39
        +3
        Quote: Dart2027
        Given the fact that modern ships are not armored, the likelihood of the very possibility of a BZZH is extremely small.

        1. It depends on which ships ... For example, 1144 has a reservation for the reactor compartment zone ... BZ cellars and kerosene storages have Kevlar protection, in addition to constructive ... etc. Amer AVMs also have local reservations: ceramics, titanium, Kevlar ... inclined armored plates from dural ...
        But actually on this issue to Oleg Kaptsov. He will masterfully describe the arthropod wintering place! ( laughing )
        2. The likelihood of a BJ is very high. Remember the Falklands! And then, combat damage can be from a water hammer on bottom-stop valves from a close gap in the base, fire of electric networks from a short circuit, fuel shocks when tanks are damaged, etc. All this requires the speediest elimination, extinguishing, sealing ... And who will do it? ITR with a joystick? or a computer / BIUS / ACS / MSA operator? Probably, fighters of emergency parties are really needed. On the Kuz - there is a solid J there (the survivability division of warhead-5), for all this and 3 abnormal APs. Plus deck Pozh.komanda BCH-6, in addition to the division of hangar-deck mechanisms ...
        Quote: Dart2027
        and when a rocket hits, there's nothing to be done.

        Again: depending on which rocket, depending on which ship and where it got to ... But in any case, a BZZh ship is necessary in order not to burn like Sheffield from an unexploded Exocet ...
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 2 August 2017 06: 09
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          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Basement cellars and kerosene storages have Kevlar protection, in addition to constructive

          With such damage, talking about BEJ is basically meaningless, and the rest is enough for the existing ones.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          On Kuz - there is a solid J

          Have you seen this colossus? With such dimensions, hit with Granite does not mean that the ship is ready to sink.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          so as not to burn like sheffield

          With a crew of 280 people. Did it help him much?
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 2 August 2017 09: 42
            +3
            Quote: Dart2027
            Have you seen this colossus? With such sizes and

            Kuzyu - I saw. In Kiev - I had a chance to serve ... But even * with such dimensions * they burn out like barrels from fuels and lubricants ... And if Granite lands in a cellar with a base, then the ship has a real opportunity to repeat the Huda path (without good!) ... And yet, without a crew trained by the BWZ, any commander would be very uncomfortable at sea ...
            1. jjj
              jjj 2 August 2017 11: 56
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              Yes, and “Peter” with us is “lumine.” At one time they talked a lot about this topic. They thought that in general they would last a little. But “Peter” was lucky, and the other ships of the project - not very
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 2 August 2017 20: 45
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              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              But even * with such dimensions * they burn out like fuel barrels ... And if Granite lands in a cellar with a base, then the ship has a real opportunity to repeat the Huda path

              By itself. But still large dimensions are a serious argument in favor of survivability.
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              without a crew trained by BWZ, any commander would be very uncomfortable at sea

              Well, I won’t be able to tell him, but I doubt very much that if something serious happened, then a large number of crew members will really be able to change something.
  5. san4es
    san4es 1 August 2017 17: 57
    +5
    request ... What for the sailors (at the gun), moored? So that the boschi get smashed or pulled (for mistakes)?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 1 August 2017 19: 16
      +4
      Quote: san4es
      What for sailors (at the gun), moored?

      This is their insurance so that the wave does not wash overboard ... Reinsurers, as usual, are afraid of litigation in the event of injury or injury ...
      In short, everything is according to the instructions: "Di стеrste column marshirt ..." (c) film "Big Walk". Yeah.
      1. san4es
        san4es 1 August 2017 19: 30
        +7
        [quote = Boa KAA]
        This is their insurance such that the wave does not wash overboard ...
        ...I thought so recourse ... Suddenly running (wandering) killer wave fellow ... Overboard will not wash away, so confused to death bully
  6. kefan
    kefan 1 August 2017 19: 40
    0
    Are they taking an example from us?
  7. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 1 August 2017 20: 04
    +3
    and rightly, in no hurry. !!
  8. san4es
    san4es 1 August 2017 20: 26
    +6
    Frigate Baden-Württemberg at the shipyard ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems and Lürssen. and performance characteristics
  9. Holoy
    Holoy 1 August 2017 21: 04
    +2
    And on it will RPC Harpoon stand?
  10. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 1 August 2017 21: 37
    +2
    author!!! Why are you spoiling the Russians? 2nd tell me where you will .... Work out the scapula ...
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 1 August 2017 21: 52
    +1
    Hector !!! The hero shouted at the walls of Troy ...
    Black haters !!! let's butt !!! --- shouted the countries where the SalivatingSmelly army of Jews appeared ... Therefore, the Iranians piss, calling on the whole Zemshar to destroy the state of Israel as a state illegally created ... Understand .... Not the Americans .. .. But the Zionists ...