So which park was destroyed in Volgograd?

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The wave of indignation that rushed the other day to the Internet about the atrociously felled "park of widows" forced me to pay attention to the issue. Indeed, it is not every day that happens. To cut down the park, planted by the widows of the dead soldiers and officers, for the sake of parking for the World Cup - it doesn't matter how much it climbs.



Moreover, I myself, as it turned out, passed through this park in 2014 year. I just did not know that this is exactly the “park of widows”.

I must say that in 2014, Volgograd itself and its historical objects were somewhat surprising. Mamaev Kurgan was generally one continuous construction site. Everything was repaired and ennobled, which is quite normal on the eve of 2015 and the next anniversary.

I understandably did not save the photos of that visit to this park, and there was really nothing to shoot there. As if the whole Volgograd was either a kind of neglect (to a lesser extent), or a negligence with which they actively fought. The park was a so-so spectacle. Just our Volgograd conductor led us to the memorial a short way from the place where we threw the car. And when I turned to him with questions, I reminded about this place.

In general, I have no impressions about the “park of widows”. Launched such a piece of land with a rather haphazard landing. Many trees were already dead. Plates that were in some trees, alas, did not see. But we just went through a certain territory. Pretty unsightly.

And the other day everyone knew about the “park of widows”. And that the park was completely cut down and in its place it is planned to arrange car parking for the World Cup 2018.

The trees were really cut down, and that’s all. This is an indisputable fact. And as completely dried, and quite a living. Bust, as they say, there is.







However, there are nuances.

The first. Why the noise around the logging raised after the fact? Cutting down so many trees is not a two-minute meeting. Plans for reconstruction and improvement were discussed at various levels, up to Moscow, which financed all this. Or tishkom and privately just podmhnuli solutions? It is illogical.

Second. By inserting this topic into the search, I got a very strange result. Who was the first to make a fuss? Again, all "ours": Kasparov, Rosbalt, Svoboda, Ekho Moskvy. Further, of course, bloggers were brought up, where without them?

Third. Was there a park? Here are the doubts. And here it is worth quoting not someone, but “Echo”. Why? Judge for yourself.

“It is believed that they were landed in the park by relatives of those killed in the Battle of Stalingrad, therefore, unofficially this territory is called the park of Stalingrad widows. Earlier, local authorities recognized the territory as uncomfortable and decided to renew the park. ”

There are no documents to rely on. It turns out that on a personal initiative, back in 1965, the residents of Volgograd planted trees and bushes in this place. However, without proper care, namely watering, for 50 and over, the park really fell into disrepair. Volgograd is a difficult city, there is really no water anywhere. Hence, the fully justified death of plantations, caused by the natural decline of those who planted, is quite likely.

Director of the Museum-Reserve "Battle of Stalingrad" in the Volgograd region, Alexey Vasin, said that Mamayev had never had a "park of widows".

“The territory that someone called the park is outside the irrigation zone. There was a landing material, but he had a very unsightly look. Trees do not live so much, half of them were diseased, the second one was dried. In addition, this area was not walking. ”

In addition, according to Vasin, the “park of widows” simply does not exist. "This is from the category of mythology. Not a single documentary evidence of the existence of the" park of widows "is even in the archives."

There may be nothing in the archives. However, there are some traces. Lyudmila Zykina and Maya Kristalinskaya sang the song “In the park at Mamayev Kurgan” to the poems of Irina Goff and the music of Jan Frenkel. I think it was not taken from the ceiling.

But if we start from official documents, then everything looks somewhat different from what is stated in the main part of the media.

To begin with, the term “park of widows” is generally a replica. There is no such park. There is a memorial park at Mamayev Kurgan, which is present in all search engines. And there is a kind of “security territory”, which seems to be no longer a memorial park, but also not a city territory.

The name about widows, in my opinion, was also not particularly used. If you strain any search engine, then the same “Google” until recently (a month ago) was not at all aware of this name.

Well, the statements that thousands of citizens planted trees in the park in memory of loved ones who did not return from the war are not confirmed by anything. But no one is going to deny that the landing by the forces of the inhabitants of Volgograd. Another question is how much. And what all this has become today.

So which park was destroyed in Volgograd?



Fourth. Then what? Cut down - cut down, and, clearly, not everything was withered and sick. Well, of course, breaking is not building. But then what? What is the prospect?

The fact that the World Cup 2018 has become a kind of impetus for improvement is not bad. Let this action serve at least something good. And here it is necessary to go to the relevant website of the administration, there you can dig up with a certain zeal information about what is planned.

So, in place of felled trees, the authorities are going to plant about 930 trees.

Rowan, maple, birch, bird cherry, linden, acacia, oak, Crimean pine, Scotch pine, spruce, larch and 1600 shrubs (lilac, cotoneaster, currant). It's like a good idea.

Also in the project indicated arrangement 8 000 square. m. pedestrian alleys and paths covered with paving slabs, 1 800 square. m. bicycle paths with asphalt pavement, 1 170 square. m roller tracks with rubber coating.
They plan to install video surveillance in the park, irrigation water supply (the most important thing!) And place 85 street benches, 73 decorative bins, 320 street LED lamps.

Do you see the park? On paper? I see. Completely, you know, a normal park like this. Like the official one.



Yes, and parking. But not “instead of”, but “plus”. On 240 seats, an area of ​​0,7 ha. There is a difference? The total area allocated for reconstruction - 5,38 ha, parking area - 0,7 ha. Well, where is "instead" here?

It turns out, after all, a new park, in which there will be a parking place. Which, by the way, is logical. Poor in our time gets along with the erection of something and the lack of places for cars. Well, this is life today.

What is great is that while this “park” was in the condition in which I saw it, everyone was happy with everything. True, no one drove there, and did not tell about the fact that “they planted an apple tree for a widow”. Not the place was, honestly. But it was enough to just start some work, and a wild howl and cry immediately arose. And then the legend of the “destroyed park of widows” was born.

Populism stinks, if that. And much. Of course, it is easier to raise the ora than to really take care of the park. Although no one seems to interfere with all 50 years of its existence. Power strain, for example. On the Saturday work out.

Well, now the trees are cut down. Again, there is a field for the application of force and energy. Ensure that everything is as it is written in the plans of the administration. It is easier than to pull yourself on a clean-up day on cleaning up the territory. Because the output will be not neglected and abandoned plantations, but quite a modern park with irrigation. The main thing is that everything takes place. But there is a certain confidence in this, from the experience of my city I can say that we have learned how to create parks and squares in our country.

Another question is that everything is as it should, and not as always.

Let's just say that I don’t pretend to be the ultimate truth, it was a long time ago in Volgograd, they say, the city is changing. I'm not to judge. But it’s possible to judge how harmful were the actions of the administration, and how much everything dumped on the Internet is true. And even need.

In any case, I think that our Volgograd readers will be happy to complement everything written.
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  1. +6
    1 August 2017 06: 16
    And what do we expect from the "non-living" media .. Only crowing ..
    1. +11
      1 August 2017 06: 36
      Since, supposedly, they were going to make a cultural park there, then why did they cut down living memorial trees? Landscaping is done on what is, and not cleaned up to zero. Half-century trees, a young planting will not replace.

      What did Volgograd do with memorial trees, preparations for the celebration of the 75 anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad?
      It looks like headache (lack of brains in the heads), and not the machinations of external enemies.
      1. +2
        1 August 2017 07: 13
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        What did Volgograd do with memorial trees, preparations for the celebration of the 75 anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad?

        Quote: bulat
        There was a rather abandoned place there. At the beginning of the 2000's near the substation of the hardware plant, lovers of car sex took a fancy. Everywhere the rubber was lying around.

        Director of the Museum-Reserve "Battle of Stalingrad" in the Volgograd region, Alexey Vasin, said that Mamayev had never had a "park of widows".
        “The territory that someone called the park is outside the irrigation zone. There was planting materialbut he had a very unsightly appearance. Trees do not live so much, half of them were diseased, the second dried up. In addition, this area was not promenade. "
        1. +9
          1 August 2017 09: 01
          The topic is not new.
          "Cedar planted in Sochi by Yuri Gagarin was cut down on Cosmonautics Day". For the sake of the stall. - www.mk.ru/social/2016/04/26/posazhennyy-v-sochi-y
          uriem-gagarinym-kedr-spilili-v-den-kosmonavtiki.h
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          "Utility workers cut down birches planted in memory of those killed on the Kursk submarine"- https://life.ru/t/новости/1030408/kommunalshchiki
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          shikh_na_podlodkie_kursk

          In Volgograd, in the park, "which was not there," until the 90s, even an irrigation system existed. In the 90s, it (and nameplates near trees) was plundered by scrap metal collectors.
          You can see the topic in the Volgograd forum: https://www.forum-volgograd.ru/threads/318595/
          1. +2
            1 August 2017 10: 01
            Followed the link. Continuous throwing within this framework is lying, but I'm not lying, no, you're lying all ...
            I would like documentary evidence.
            Alternatively, a resident of Volgograd goes to the library and finds a binder of a local newspaper, where it is written about it.
            Z.Y. Although I think that they should have written about this in the central press.
          2. +2
            1 August 2017 11: 58
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            The topic is not new.
            "The cedar planted in Sochi by Yuri Gagarin was cut down on Cosmonautics Day." For the sake of a stall. - www.mk.ru/social/2016/04/26/posazhennyy-v-sochi-y
            uriem-gagarinym-kedr-spilili-v-den-kosmonavtiki.h
            tml

            Yeah ... and the reception is the same every time - first throwing in unverified information in the style of "Shock! Sensation! The horrors of our town!", and then - distribution over the network, and often despite the facts.
            The same "cut down Gagarin's cedar" as a result turned out to be ... larch, cut down elsewhere.
            - I don’t know how it happened, but the Himalayan cedar is half a century old. He stands, as before, in his place, opposite the former Rodina cinema right behind the monument to the astronaut on Gagarin Street, - they hastened to reassure the Sochi administration. - But the workers cut down actually the larch that grew between the garden and the cinema. Residents of the high-rise building and the leadership of kindergarten No. 11 asked to remove the tree. Larch had a serious roll of several meters - with a strong gust of wind could fall. But such a risk is unacceptable. By pure chance, the workers sawed it on April 12th, but everything is official - we can provide a logging coupon.

            Moreover, even in the only photo to the articles about the "sawn cedar" it was clear that the tree was clearly over 55 years old:
            1. +5
              1 August 2017 12: 53
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Yeah ... and the reception is the same every time - first throwing in unverified information in the style of "Shock! Sensation! Horrors of our town!", And then - spreading it over the network, and often regardless of the facts.

              Links about the registered birches of the submariners who died on the Kursk and the Gagarin’s cedar on the Volgograd forum. There, the meaning was put into these links that, they say, not only our Volgograd officials have a conscience. I did not check - this is an addition to the topic.
              And here is a photo of the monument laying the memorial park of the Mamaev Kurgan in 1965. (see my previous post) checked. No wonder those who had "no park" did not notice this photo.
              Here is the site-encyclopedia of Volgograd, there is a photo with the caption "Memorial Arboretum at the foot of the Mamaev Kurgan". Attention: archive date "September 6, 2015" - i.e. obviously BEFORE these events, when they did not yet know that "there was no park" - poiskvolgograd.ru/2015/page/5/?option=com_content
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              The wave of indignation, as I understand it, was raised by the Communists. The Liberasts simply sided with them - they are for any fuss against the authorities.
              It’s bad when officials have neither conscience nor brains.
          3. 0
            1 August 2017 22: 40
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            The topic is not new.
            "The cedar planted in Sochi by Yuri Gagarin was cut down on Cosmonautics Day." For the sake of a stall. - www.mk.ru/social/2016/04/26/posazhennyy-v-sochi-y
            uriem-gagarinym-kedr-spilili-v-den-kosmonavtiki.h
            tml

            Well, why then spread the lies ?! Nobody sawed the cedar planted by Gagarin. Here is a link to the video https://youtu.be/4k9n0vrK2os
        2. +2
          1 August 2017 10: 26
          ... Mamaev’s mound never had any “widow park”. There was no park. What is everyone discussing then? Nuance number 2?
          1. 0
            5 August 2017 23: 53
            Quote: RomanRVV
            ... Mamaev’s mound never had any “widow park”. There was no park. What is everyone discussing then? Nuance number 2?

            here is the cedar, which is 50 years old
    2. 0
      6 August 2017 16: 44
      How did they get it. We will not have the World Cup, but the city is on its ears. Everything is being reconstructed, bike paths, playgrounds, fountains. I’m surprised myself.
  2. +5
    1 August 2017 06: 17
    But as soon as some work was started, a wild howl and cry rose immediately. And then a legend was born about the "destroyed park of widows."

    Before undertaking such work, the authorities need to carry out propaganda events ... explain to the mass media our society what they are going to do and why ... this is the key to future peace.
  3. +5
    1 August 2017 06: 50
    There was a rather abandoned place there. At the beginning of the 2000's near the substation of the hardware plant, lovers of car sex took a fancy. Everywhere the rubber was lying around.
  4. +4
    1 August 2017 07: 10
    Everything as usual. The administration did not carry out explanatory work (just like in Moscow for renovation), the "handshakes" took advantage of this ...
    Well, as always ...
  5. +4
    1 August 2017 08: 40
    1. Judging by the chocks in the photo, the pines were in order (pine is a quite resistant tree) But the leafy trees proposed for planting will even require constant watering.
    In Volgograd, burnt steppes and cut 50 summer trees - wrecking. Arrange and improve it is not a line of blade of grass to plant, of which 79% will bend and roll the asphalt road "to the horizon" (and it will be so). Beautify it around a living tree carefully and lovingly put the path.
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  7. +3
    1 August 2017 14: 05
    So as not to take sides. So I will say, there were definitely trees, a lot of healthy ones. For new ones to grow a lot of time must pass. But the closest thing was to wait for the parking lot.
    However, so the current authorities are not seen in saving the country.
  8. +6
    1 August 2017 15: 21
    Quote: Gardamir
    By the way, the current authorities are not seen in saving the country.
    Reply Quote Complaint

    I will not, about all the power (I do not like verbiage).
    Well Volgograd holding power, really with a bullet in my head.
    At work, I visit many regions, well, damn it, as in VOLGOGRAD I have not seen this.
    We drive 4 cars, and the guys ask by the radio when the Volgograd region will be,
    I answer how everything starts flying through the cockpit, so we stopped.
    Here the local wedges it in than you don’t like our region,
    Well here another says
    but he’s right, as in the 42nd road we were ruined, so that the Germans wouldn’t pass, and still haven’t restored.
    Well laughed on the air
    Not a pancake such a CITY., Given to the Idiots, neither roads nor infrastructure,
    This CITY deserves to be a diamond in our history.
    And there, whatever the mayor is a huckster!
  9. +1
    1 August 2017 16: 30
    I believe that screaming after cleaning up a cluttered area, harvesting dried trees and cutting down root shoots in the so-called "widows' park" is an artificial provocation and populism. The memorial complex must be developed and parking is necessary.
  10. +8
    1 August 2017 17: 54
    As a native, I can only confirm everything written in this article. Really stuffing ... Moreover, the ears "heap" there, they do not just stick out ... they just rise. But the noble hysteria was bred. Skillfully speculate on the saint. Damn, for some reason, when a restaurant was built on this very territory, no one even squealed at the car wash and office ...
    And there really wasn’t a “widow park”. In any case, having lived in my hometown for half a century, I learned about this only from this srach. There were landings on the territory at the foot of the Mound - when organized by dates, when spontaneous - but as a park, it never took shape and was not perceived. Well, that simple fact is that in our climate not a single plant will not last long without watering ... And counting there has stopped counting from the end of the Union ...
    So ...
    In general, a filthy feeling, speculation on the most holy ...
    1. 0
      5 August 2017 16: 29
      I agree, there was no fleet of widows there.
      It was worth the hard work in my office to explain to my colleagues that there was supposedly a park.
      The photo for the article with sawn coniferous trees is surprising, in Volgograd there are very few coniferous plantings.

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