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Unexpected guests in the control zone of the Pacific Fleet of Russia and the Chinese Navy. British AUG at the gates of the Great Pacific Game

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The Royal Navy Great Britain HMS «Queen Elizabeth» (R08) aircraft carrier without auxiliary medium-range radar «ARTISAN 3D»



In recent years, amid the widespread militarization of the European, Near-Asian and Indo-Asian-Pacific theaters of war with the advanced shock bridgeheads of the US Navy and the US Air Force, the main American ally in Western Europe - Great Britain - has become noticeably bolder. Aggressive anti-Russian and anti-Chinese accusatory rhetoric, increasingly coming from the capital of Misty Albion in support of Washington, is becoming deliberately harsh and emotional. London is no longer limited to empty statements, taking an active part in saturating the Baltic states with infantry and armored units in order to establish tight operational and tactical control over the most important sections of the western borders of Russia and the northern borders of the Republic of Belarus. So, in the spring of 2017, a reinforced British infantry battalion of 800 troops, reinforced by an armored unit consisting of several main combat units, was transferred to Estonia as part of the NATO Allied operations “Atlantic Resolve” tanks "Challenger 2" and several infantry fighting vehicles MCV-80 "Warrior". But not only on the basis of this can we draw final conclusions about the growth of London's geostrategic ambitions in the world.

The United Kingdom plans to implement the scope of its plans exclusively by modernizing and updating its main military component - fleetas well as deck and anti-submarine aviation. In particular, in 2020, a crucial moment will occur in the combat potential of the British naval aviation: the delivery of the first two long-range anti-submarine aircraft from the Boeing P-8A Poseidon will be able to control remote areas of the World Ocean within a radius of 3700 km without refueling and about 6000 km with one refueling. Currently, Poseidons, trained by 2 UK Air Force crews, are at the US Navy airfield in Jacksonville, Florida. Pilots and operators of two-crew systems flew over the Atlantic for more than 1000 hours, which is enough to get acquainted with the operational features of both the air platform (Boeing 737-800ERX) and the avionics, including software for processing information from sonar buoys, airborne radar AN / APY-10 (AN / APS-137D (V) 5), magnetic anomaly sensor and multi-band turret optoelectronic sighting system MX-20HD.

Quite difficult to master is the AN / APY-10 airborne radar control software. Despite the fact that the radar is represented by a conventional parabolic antenna array equipped with a communication bus with information processing modules and data display terminals, electromechanical rotation drives and a power loop, Raytheon specialists were able to endow the product with a huge number of complex and valuable modern TVD modes work. The most advanced modes include: synthetic aperture mode (SAR), reverse synthetic aperture mode (ISAR) with the ability to build an 3D terrain model and three-dimensional radar images of surface ships and enemy objects with their identification. The ISAR mode is implemented during the P-8A “Poseidon” loitering around the target area where the target is located. Over a period of time, AN / APY-10 produces several thousand or tens of thousands of radar fixations of a surface object from a varying angle, which makes it possible to get a fairly accurate target silhouette with 1 m resolution. The radar operates in the X-band at a frequency from 9300 to 10100 MHz . At maximum peak power in 50000, the AN / APS-137D (V) 5 can detect the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov / Liaonin at a distance of 450 km, and the BOD of 1155 Avenue “Deloi” - 280-330 km. The mass of the radar complex with attached dovorot mechanisms reaches the order of 250-300 kg.


P-8A British Air Force


Attacking the combat duty of long-range P-8A “Poseidon” patrol aircraft will enable British naval aviation to conduct long-range aerial reconnaissance of both enemy’s surface and underwater targets and coastal military infrastructure. Moreover, there is the possibility of conducting optical-electronic and passive electronic intelligence over sea, land and air objects. The DER is implemented by the highly sensitive sensors of the AN / ALQ-240 (V) 1 radiation warning system, which is interfaced with the AN / ALQ-213 (V) on-board defense complex using the MIL-STD-1553B standard data communication bus. Consequently, the Poseidons can be considered full-fledged aviation reconnaissance complexes operating at strategic distances from their own borders.

Anti-submarine P-8A "Poseidon" are not the main tools for the demonstration of London's inflated geostrategic ambitions. In addition to the SSNB “Vanguard” class strategic missile submarines (being carriers of the Trident-IID133 UGM-5A SLBM) and low-noise multi-purpose Astute SSN multi-purpose nuclear submarines, which will soon resume their combat duty under the Arctic ice as part of the increasing “arct” under the ice of the Arctic. between Russia and Western states, a significant role in establishing global control is to be played by promising HMS «Queen Elizabeth» and «Prince of Wales» aircraft carriers.

Not even a quarter has passed since the exit from the dock to the first test voyage of the head gas turbine aircraft carrier “Queen Elizabeth”, as rumors about further global missions of the new ship spread in the UK defense structures. In particular, British Ambassador to the United States Kim Darrok let out in Washington about London’s plans to send the lead aircraft carrier to the western part of the Pacific Ocean, where it should become an additional guarantor of "freedom of navigation and air flights." In other words, the new “two-sided” aircraft carrier will participate in long-distance joint campaigns to the shores of Southeast Asia along with the American aircraft carrier strike groups and operate in close proximity to the 9-dotted line, which describes the exclusive economic zone of the Middle Kingdom in the South China Sea. It is quite clear that “Queen Elizabeth” will “run up against China” not alone, but accompanied by modern Daring class destroyers (Type 45), as well as Astute-class multi-purpose nuclear submarines, it will in no way contribute to military political stability in the Asia-Pacific region.

One can expect the appearance of the British AUG to be much more north of Biendong, namely in the East China and Japan seas, as well as in the immediate vicinity of Vladivostok, where the headquarters of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy is located. It is in these areas that the British aircraft carrier and its support can be “tested for durability” by means of naval aviation radio electronic warfare of the Russian Pacific Fleet and the Chinese Navy, using modern ultra-low noise diesel-electric submarines of the Yuan (Type 041), Paltus (877) classes and Lada (Ave. 677), as well as the Shan multi-purpose atomic submarines (Ave 093B) and Ash-tree (Ave 885). It is easy to detect the approach of these unique “submarine cruisers” among the British even with the use of anti-submarine modifications of EH101 “Merlin” helicopters and promising multi-purpose DRLO helicopters and target designation “Crowsnest” (“Crow nest”).

A very interesting “exchange of courtesies” took place between British Minister of Defense Michael Fallon and Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov at the end of June regarding the comparison of aircraft carriers the Queen Elizabeth and Admiral Kuznetsov. To the approval of the head of the British defense department about the “more beautiful appearance of the English“ two-island ”in comparison with the“ Admiral Kuznetsov ”, I. Konashenkov reminded that the brainchild of“ BAE Systems ”,“ Thales Group ”and“ Babcock Marine ”is nothing more than aircraft ", in need of a more reliable anti-missile and anti-submarine defense from the accompanying submarines, destroyers and frigates of URO, as well as patrol aircraft. This is partly true, but there are some nuances.

Initially, the Queen Elizabeth R08 aircraft carrier does not provide for the proliferation of serious anti-aircraft / missile defenses. The only defensive armament that can be integrated in the foreseeable future on the aircraft’s CWS is 3 or 4 20-mm six-barreled combat module of the Mark 15 “Phalanx” CIWS anti-aircraft artillery systems - or 30-mm from two-block anti-gun systems - 15-mm from two-block systems in the case of 3-block European modules - 120-mm from 2-block, in the case of block, in the case of anti-ballistic European counterparts - 16-mm, 2-block, 8, 9, 9, 9, 8, 9, 8, 9, 9, 9, 15, 15, 15 ". This self-defense arsenal is suitable only for “scaring off” approaching naval aviation patrol planes, as well as for destroying single obsolete subsonic P-35 “Termite” or P-5 “Malachite” missiles that do not have anti-aircraft maneuvering modes. "Swarm" of 7 PKR X-3U "Uranus" or 45 - 43 50М70 "Granit" will destroy the British aircraft carrier in a matter of seconds. Nevertheless, the Queen Elizabeth has internal volumes reserved for the installation of universal built-in vertical launchers of the A15 / 30 / 2 "Sylver" type used by the ASAM-16 / 32 SAMs of the PAAMS medium / long-range shipborne air defense systems, as well as intended for the deployment and launch of strike missile weapons. British sources claim that the 15x30 UVP with XNUMX transport-launch containers for the Aster-XNUMX or Aster-XNUMX missiles can be placed in the underdeck niches of the aircraft carrier.

This is quite good, given that the anti-aircraft missiles of the Aster-30 family have excellent anti-missile capabilities thanks to the transverse control engines, which bring the overload during maneuvering to 62G. But there is one more discrepancy: in the radar architecture of the R08 aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth, not a single S / or X-range radar / target radar has been observed that has sufficient resolution to capture airborne objects for accurate tracking. On the aircraft carrier there is only a general ship radar component. Its basis is the S1850M high-potential decimeter L-band radar (with the ability to detect and track operational-tactical ballistic missiles and MRBDs on the ascending and descending branches of the trajectory, as well as their combat units). The station is represented by an active-passive HEADLIGHT with 24 elements, 16 of which operate in active mode and 8 in passive mode. In the “upper beam” mode, the S1850M can detect exoatmospheric aerospace objects at altitudes around 150 km and 200 range - 250 km, which was confirmed during testing of the similar Radars from the Thales Smart-L in the Pacific Ocean, which accompanied the training OTBR ARAV-B at an altitude of 150 and a distance of 200 km. However, with the 15-30 cm wavelength, this radar will not be able to give accurate target designation to Aster anti-aircraft missiles.


Installation of the antenna post of the radar "ARTISAN 3D" on the second superstructure of the aircraft carrier "Queen Elizabeth"


Installed on the rear add-on of the Queen Elizabeth and the additional radar complex ARTISAN 3D, capable of operating in the E-band of decimeter waves (frequency 2-3 GHz, wavelength 10-15 cm). Its ability to issue target designation of the Aster family of missiles has not yet been confirmed, since it is known that this requires a frequency of 2-4 GHz (S-band). Based on this, one can confirm the words of Igor Konashenkov that the British aircraft carrier is only a “vulnerable aircraft fleet”. Meanwhile, it is impossible to close our eyes to its presence off the coast of China and Russia, as the deck air wing consisting of 24 - 32 deck tactical fighter jets of 5 generation / S / S FP 35B can pose a very serious threat to both Chinese and Russian fighters naval aviation. Many media outlets and experts in the field of military equipment, on completely objective grounds, ridicule the disgusting F-35A / B flight-related qualities with regard to maneuvering combat, and also note the small radius of action in 865 / 1080 km, rarely focusing on the avionics and weapons of fighters . And here everything goes far away in our favor.

Not only do the F-35Bs have sufficiently small EPR in 0,2 m2 and carry AN / APG-81 ANFAR radar onboard, capable of withstanding most types of REB, thanks to a flexible, customizable radiation pattern, they will soon have a “rocket” -line »URVV MBDA" Meteor ". In terms of the effectiveness of intercepting air targets at ranges over 120 km, the Meteors are several times superior to the latest American air-to-air missiles AIM-120D AMRAAM. Due to the adjustable flow rate of the gas generator of the mainstream integrated rocket-ramjet engine (IRPD), Meteors can accelerate to 4M on the final leg of the flight, while maintaining high energy and maneuverability at 140 - 150 km, which will pose a serious threat as for Chinese fighters J -15S / J-16 and Su-35С, and for our Su-30СМ, which are in service with the Pacific Fleet. But if the Chinese talk about the development and preparation for the adoption of similar “rocket-ramjet” URVV PL-15 / 21D are not stopped for a season, then we have almost forgotten about the “direct-flow” URVV project “180-PD”. We have already considered this unpleasant situation for the VKS and naval aviation of the Navy several times in our previous works, but nothing has changed.

Sending the British carrier strike force led by HMS "Queen Elizabeth" to the shores of Southeast Asia, and possibly the Far Eastern Federal District, will be solely demonstrative in order to emphasize London's global ambitions, but with increasing tension in the APR over time such missions can be reincarnated in real, joint with the US Pacific Fleet, military operations. It is for this reason that it is already necessary to know exactly the fighting qualities of the new English aircraft carrier and the carrier wing located on it, as well as to determine in advance the list of retaliatory measures for the "stopping" of the new threat.

Information sources:
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=17619
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/queen-elizabeth/
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=17686
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 1 August 2017 06: 04
    +1
    Everyone is rearming, including the UK, you need to be prepared.
    1. Finches
      Finches 1 August 2017 07: 00
      +8
      I read it with interest, but I still had one question - did they have the Internet with a package of porn sites on Her Majesty’s ships, otherwise I’m afraid that all the rest of the equipment and ultramodern weapons will not be needed - the sailors will simply refuse to serve ... laughing
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 1 August 2017 10: 28
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        sailors will simply refuse to serve ..

        what I don’t know how it is now, but 27 years ago this role was played by the steamboat of love (once a month our sailors in all their eyepieces enviously watched this disgrace) hi
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 1 August 2017 12: 00
        +1
        the question is even simpler: only your own territory (max space), populated by people who support their own !!! power and each other !!! will save us from new weapons?
        break the anaconda ring and put the rackets and radars on f-46 or 57.
        how much does it cost in the years of state construction?
      3. Krabik
        Krabik 3 August 2017 11: 42
        +1
        The clash with England will be, as in the Crimean War, at first laughter, and then mountains of corpses and the rejection of territories.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 3 August 2017 11: 48
          +4
          Quote: Krabik
          The clash with England will be, as in the Crimean War

          At that time, England received a mordell in our Far East, and subsequently, the entire so-called victory in the Crimean War was disavowed by the actions of the diplomats of the Empire.
          So the Angels only had one sad memory - the shooting of their aristocracy color, in a senseless equestrian attack on Russian positions.
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  2. Anarchist
    Anarchist 1 August 2017 06: 05
    17
    Oh, if only their `` Aviamatka '' would not slip into the Arctic Ocean. Absolutely not to litter. And then, except for Russia, there will be no one to pull out.
    And it is expensive! But our money will not be taken ...
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 August 2017 06: 42
    0
    to the shores of Southeast Asia, and possibly Far Eastern Federal District,

    ... meet, let them not hesitate ... see what these want to ... angry
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 August 2017 06: 55
    0
    The British decided to recall (recall) the former power of their fleet. It is necessary to support the "twin" on the Anglo-Saxon race in their tireless and difficult struggle with Russia.
    to the shores of Southeast Asia, and possibly the Far Eastern Federal District ...

    They still need to get here. Now, if they crawl then and look at their power.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 1 August 2017 12: 01
      0
      to the shores of Southeast Asia, and possibly the Far Eastern Federal District ...

      --- Kolyma gold beckons?
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts 1 August 2017 07: 28
    +3
    Sending the British carrier strike force led by HMS "Queen Elizabeth" to the shores of Southeast Asia, and possibly the Far Eastern Federal District, will be solely demonstrative in order to emphasize London's global ambitions, but with increasing tension in the APR over time such missions can be reincarnated in real, joint with the US Pacific Fleet, military operations. It is for this reason that it is already necessary to know exactly the fighting qualities of the new English aircraft carrier and the carrier wing located on it, as well as to determine in advance the list of retaliatory measures for the "stopping" of the new threat.

    "Status -6" will help the British realize the vanity of being ...
    1. Walanin
      Walanin 3 August 2017 12: 08
      +1
      hats, more hats!
  6. kvs207
    kvs207 1 August 2017 07: 49
    +1
    I look at the "queen" and wonder. I remember all and sundry scolded Kuznetsov for the springboard and rockets, and what do I see on Elizabeth? Trampoline and rockets (albeit in perspective) lol
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 1 August 2017 10: 07
      +1
      Anti-ship missiles on the "Lizka"? Where is it written about them here?
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 August 2017 10: 35
      +3
      Quote: kvs207
      I remember all and sundry scolded Kuznetsov for the springboard and rockets, and what do I see on Elizabeth? Trampoline and rockets (albeit in perspective)

      Heh heh heh ... so their lordships tried to break through a full AB with catapults and F-35C. But because of the limited budget, they had to save on something - and they refused the catapults in favor of the springboard. Say, with a springboard and F-35B the ship will be cheaper. In 2010, however, the fleet tried to pry in the direction of catapults at least on PoW, but the noble impulse was immediately stifled by financial calculations.
  7. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 1 August 2017 08: 39
    +4
    Peter the Great to put on a raid in neutral waters near the infamous islet and watch the cockroaches rushing about.
    1. Walanin
      Walanin 3 August 2017 12: 09
      +1
      complete idiocy expose your only aircraft carrier under attack
  8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 August 2017 09: 32
    +5
    Until they go nowhere. England will buy 24 f-35s only by 2023, and this is the minimum air group, despite the fact that a certain number of aircraft will have to be left at home
    In general, the article is essentially true but slightly premature
    1. AUL
      AUL 1 August 2017 10: 29
      +2
      Serious and objective article. To the author +!
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 August 2017 12: 23
      +2
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Until they go nowhere. England will buy 24 f-35s only by 2023, and this is the minimum air group, despite the fact that a certain number of aircraft will have to be left at home

      I wonder how much the F-35B will cost the British - taking into account the latest information about the cost of the program.
      And would it not turn out in the end that the ejection version of the AB would have cost them less. smile
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 August 2017 18: 28
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And would it not turn out in the end that the ejection version of the AB would have cost them less.

        Having abandoned the kotopult and the basing of AWACS, the guys at least halved the capabilities of their ABs, so they already got an aircraft carrier for the price of two :)))) Even without the added cost of the F-35V drinks .
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 1 August 2017 19: 13
          +1
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Having abandoned the kotopult and the basing of AWACS, the guys at least halved the capabilities of their ABs, so they already got an aircraft carrier for the price of two :)))) Even without the added cost of the F-35V drinks .

          Wow ... with AWACS somehow awkward happened. smile
          This looks especially funny when you consider that it is an AV fleet that has the sad experience of the Falklands - when, after the conflict began, it was necessary to urgently rivet the RLD helicopter on its knee after the lime.
          And it looks even funnier if you remember that Royal Navy had money. The ones that escaped the Nimrod MRA4 program, which resulted in perhaps the most expensive scrap metal in history.
          On January 25, 2011, the British company BAE Systems began dismantling Nimrod MRA4 reconnaissance aircraft, BUILT BY ORDER by the UK MoD, BUT SO NOT ACCEPTED. According to Flightglobal, the fuselage of the aircraft is being cut at the BAE Systems enterprise in Cheshire. Earlier, the British media dubbed the Nimrod MRA4 "the most expensive scrap metal in the world" - 3,6 billion pounds ($ 5,7 billion) were spent on aircraft development.

          As part of the Nimrod MRA4 creation program, it was planned to assemble nine aircraft. To date, two such aircraft have been assembled, and the production of three more machines has also begun. The creation of aircraft has been carried out since 1996. ONLY ONE Nimrod MRA4 MAKES A FLIGHT on August 26, 2004; THE OTHER PLANES IN THE FLIGHT TEST PROGRAM DO NOT TAKE PART IN THE SUCCESS. The decision to close the project was made by the UK government and announced on October 20, 2010 in the new National Security Strategy.

          It was instead of the Nimrod that the Poseidons were purchased.
        2. Walanin
          Walanin 3 August 2017 12: 11
          +1
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          so they already got an aircraft carrier for the price of two

          But they still got the aircraft carrier. And this will have to be reckoned with. And Konashenkov with his statements resembles Rogozin with trampolines. But where did the commercial launch market for Protons suddenly disappear, and where is the Angara?
  9. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 1 August 2017 10: 16
    +5
    “I. Konashenkov recalled that the brainchild of“ BAE Systems ”,“ Thales Group ”and“ Babcock Marine ”is nothing more than an“ aircraft mast ”, requiring more reliable anti-ballistic and anti-submarine defense from the accompanying submarines, destroyers and frigates of URO, as well as patrol aviation. "

    So what? If the British are able to provide this support, then their opponents have no problems.

    "Many media and military technology experts ridicule the disgusting flight performance of the F-35A / B in relation to maneuverable combat on completely objective grounds, and also note a short range of 865/1080 km, rarely focusing on avionics and armament fighters. And here everything is far from being in our favor. "

    It is easy and pleasant to do hobby-training. And we love it in all areas: shale gas and oil will never be profitable, and Mask’s rockets will never fly, and "on foreign territory, with little blood, a mighty blow." We catch ourselves when it is no longer just necessary to catch up, but already the dust from the feet of competitors who have run ahead has calmed down.
    Goblin with him - with an aircraft carrier. But the lag in missiles and aviation (primarily in their "stuffing") is fatal for a country of such a size as ours.
  10. A1845
    A1845 1 August 2017 11: 22
    0
    the radar is represented by a conventional parabolic antenna array,
    Is this an April Fool’s joke?
    The station is represented by an active-passive headlamp with 24 elements, 16 of which operate in active mode and 8 in passive
    similar to the translation from Yandex
  11. sailor52
    sailor52 1 August 2017 12: 51
    0
    I remember, during one of the Russian-Turkish wars, Catherine the Great far-sightedly ordered Potemkin to rename the ship named after her, otherwise, as the Turks drown, you won’t shame ....

    We are waiting for "Queen Elizabeth" on our shores, "Varyag" with "Admiral" Vinogradov "will kindly provide an escort,
    and the communications vessels, as in a good Moscow clinic, will measure the noise level, accurately record all the parameters of radio equipment, and let go with God!


    In the photo: USS Texas (CN-39) and Karelia СРЗК (CER-535), 1988 year
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 August 2017 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: sailor52
      I remember, during one of the Russian-Turkish wars, Catherine the Great far-sightedly ordered Potemkin to rename the ship named after her, otherwise, as the Turks drown, you won’t shame ....

      Nevertheless, the battleship "Catherine the Great" was part of the RIF. And before him - the EDB "Catherine II". smile
      As for Queen Elisabeth, the previous ship with the same name - the battleship - fought in two world wars - and survived until 1948. But the first aircraft carrier Queen Elisabeth was not lucky - he was destroyed on a slipway as a result of a raid by Labor on the budget of the fleet. smile
  12. sailor52
    sailor52 1 August 2017 17: 17
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    However, the battleship "Catherine the Great" as part of the RIF was. And before him - EDB "Catherine II". smile


    The battleship "Catherine the Great" was not a contemporary of the Empress, a hole in the board of which would have responded /loud laughter/ echoing in the political offices of Europe
  13. Monarchist
    Monarchist 1 August 2017 18: 00
    0
    Comrades, explain: what the hell is a RCC for an aircraft carrier? After all, in the case of Kuzey, Petya was walking nearby. The British have no analogue to "Pete", but in the fleet of Her Majesty Elizabeth 2 there is something to cover up "Lisa".
    AUGs are formed with the expectation of closing the very same Liza from under water, from the air and from the sea. + At any airfield and floating, there will also be an air defense link, or else his heart.
    1. sailor52
      sailor52 2 August 2017 13: 38
      0
      When creating the TAVKR in the USSR, it was not about building clean aircraft carriers, like imperialist weapons, but about building cruisers, albeit aircraft carriers, and UDC / helicopter carriers ...
      Not weak intrigues trailed in the Moscow high offices, and it was the 1143.5 project that was very costly to proliferate ...
  14. 1536
    1536 1 August 2017 18: 48
    +1
    It would be nice if Gorbachev appeared in Great Britain with a “new thinking in the nuclear age”. The British would quickly carry out perestroika, replace royal power with sovereign democracy, and make the world a safer place, saving them from their military presence. So it does not appear ...
  15. CKORPII
    CKORPII 3 August 2017 01: 09
    0
    what fashion to write in liberal diarrhea what words are no longer but normal ??
    1. Walanin
      Walanin 3 August 2017 12: 13
      0
      Che there as in the area? A hoarse pivasa picked up with seeds?
  16. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 3 August 2017 12: 21
    0
    The Anglo-Saxons are well armed, but only because some of our materially interested Western intelligence agencies who were not patriotic specialists left our country after the collapse of the USSR.Much has been lost during the period of liberal rule, and therefore now it is hard for us. Much needs to catch us
  17. Midshipman-53
    Midshipman-53 7 August 2017 17: 03
    0
    These eternal allies are constantly digging the pit of Russia, but they fall into it themselves ... Well, if life does not teach, there are not enough examples of their attempts to capture Russia, then we ask "grace" to recall and refresh your girl’s memory. And again, the fighters will remember the days and battles that they blew together!