In St. Petersburg, launched the lead small missile ship (RTO) "Hurricane"

Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov took part in the launching ceremony of the head small rocket ship (MRK) "Uragan" of the 22800 project (code "Karakurt") at the Leningrad shipbuilding plant "Pella". The ship was laid in December 2015 of the year. It is equipped with a diesel-electric power plant of the St. Petersburg plant "Zvezda". As Borisov told reporters, the small rocket ship "Uragan" of the 22800 project, which has the Kaliber cruise missiles in service, will be handed over to the Russian Defense Ministry until the end of the year, reports Interfax-AVN

According to the "Hurricane" tests should pass in the next six months, it is practically equipped with all ship equipment. After launching, mooring trials, adjustment, alignment of all the main units will begin, and I think that it’s quite possible to pass this ship before the end of the year the fleet, will hope

- said Y. Borisov.

Borisov noted that the "Hurricane" has serious weapons.

It is in its size, perhaps small, but very toothy. As you know, he is armed with the Caliber cruise missiles, which have performed well in the Syrian conflict. He has a rocket-gun armament, will have an anti-aircraft missile system, covering it from the air. This is terrible weaponwhich, in our opinion, will dominate the internal seas of the Russian Federation and provide cover for the near zone in the Pacific Ocean, in the Northern Fleet, in the Baltic

- Said the deputy minister of defense.

As Borisov noted, the small rocket ships of the 22800 "Karakurt" project will be equipped with the marine version of the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile system.

From a certain ship, we will rip off the "Shell" and put on it. On the "Hurricane" it will not, but the third ship "Pella" will go with the "shell"

- said Borisov.

He stressed that "there are no problems with the anti-aircraft missile system for ships of this project."

Technical characteristics of the MRK "Uragan"
Displacement: about 800 t.
The main dimensions: length - 60 m, width - 9 m, draft - 4 m.
Maximum travel speed: around 30 nodes
Navigation range: 2500 miles
Autonomy: 15 days
Armament:
one PU UKSK (universal ship shooting complex) 3C14 RK "Caliber"
one 76 mm AK-176MA gun mount
Two 30-mm AK-630M gun mounts or the Pantsir-M SCAN
Two 14.5-mm MTPU machine gun installations

Comments

[Aleksey7777777]

Vooooooooooooootoot.Navy Day gift .... And so beautiful .... Thank you, Ship dealers Masters !!!!

[Logall]

Quote: Aleksey7777777

.And so beautiful

Lesh, I don’t understand ship beauty, but is this the main thing?
And also running tests, and what else are there, for half a year. You taught me ahead of time not to "fool." Or is it something else?

[Aleksey7777777]

No, you said everything correctly, I won’t even argue ... It’s just a pre-holiday mood ... I can afford, at least once a year ...
I have already cleaned the badge to an INCREDIBLE splendor, I smoothed my black pants, in boots, as in a mirror you can admire the beauty of your unearthly !!!

[Logall]

Quote: Aleksey7777777

Just a pre-holiday mood ...

Tomorrow the Fleet is walking! I probably won’t see you here. So, again:
HOLIDAY GREETINGS!!!

[Masya masya]

He who is glad for the holiday is on the eve of ...
And the flags are already developing ...

[Aleksey7777777]

Marish, do not forget to congratulate your Parent on the Holiday ...-I will follow, congratulations or not ... And all involved in this-

[Masya masya]

Quote: Aleksey7777777

Congratulate your parent on Holiday.

So this is holy! Just not a parent, but parents !!! Mommy also served at the Pacific Fleet, radio operator, the uniform is still stored, I don’t even talk about guis ... both from mom and dad ...

[Aleksey7777777]

Eh, wow FAMILY .. Enviously in a good way ...

[dorward]

From "us" to sailors avi-hello! Be healthy guys, and I want to see your children more often. (I missed the youngest very much, she’s only 7 months old, but she loves the folder very much)

[midivan]

Quote: Aleksey7777777

It’s just a pre-holiday mood ... I can afford, at least once a year ...

Quote: Aleksey7777777

I have already cleaned the badge to an INCREDIBLE splendor, I smoothed my black pants, in boots, as in a mirror you can admire the beauty of your unearthly !!!

Happy you! But here’s a friend (if this photo is yours) who, from the top right, explain that GAP is an American company, and somehow it doesn’t look very good at the Russian Fleet, Russian sailor without a vest

[Aleksey7777777]

Everything is fine there ... !!!

[Monarchist]

Midvan, "Russian sailor without a toddler" My opinion: the main thing is not form, but content.
It seems that I read at Sobolev: at one sailor the vest worn out in the trash and sewed the vest shirts to the underwear. When the gates are unbuttoned, strips are visible as indeed a vest

[oleg-gr]

Small but toothy. A hint of a fish called piranha?

[Zibelew]

RTO Hurricane does not have air defense. Even on the old 1234 mrk there was a full-fledged Osa complex, and here it was only ak-630. The survivability of the ship leads to bad thoughts, given the presence of aircraft and PCR at the adversary.

[Abel]

Quote: Zibelew

RTO Hurricane does not have air defense.

Planned Shell-M

[DMB_95]

Quote: Logall

Quote: Aleksey7777777

.And so beautiful

.. I do not understand ship beauty, but is this the main thing?

Duc, beauty is such a terrible force! Especially with CD on board.

[Logall]

Quote: DMB_95

Duc, beauty is such a terrible force! Especially with CD on board.

So, who argues? I learn from the sea wolf nuances. I then could not see the sea from GM-569A !!!

[tihonmarine]

For the Baltic, Black Sea, and the Caspian, excellent naval weapons. Here would be clarified about the power plant.

[Fei_Wong]

Quote: Aleksey7777777

And so beautiful .... Thank you, Shipbuilding Masters !!!!

And zhurnalyugi, hike, thump. Or they just don’t bother - just to post news. In the infographic picture, the Civil Code is indicated as 100 mm (A-190), and in the TTX, given at the end of the note, for some reason 76 mm appears (AK-176MA).

[alexmach]

There also Osa-m air defense system appears, on the background of the image are flexible.

[tihonmarine]

Well, artillery weapons can be equipped as you want, but it’s easier that you have it installed.

[Dezinto]

The Mosquito Fleet is a theme !. Many small, well-organized boats can bite to death.

[viktor.]

these are more likely to be bitten

[Dead duck]

Quote: viktor.

these are more likely to be bitten

or bite until the opponent’s pulse is lost

[Alekseits]

Tear to shreds!

[Logall]

[/ quote] "The Mosquito Fleet" is a theme !. Many small, well-organized boats can have a bite to death. [Quote]

.FU fu fu so be it! This "maskit" has such a sting, which does not pierce, but tears to shreds ..
"armed with caliber cruise missiles"

[SergF123]

The name of the series - "Karakurt" speaks for itself! In case of war, this "black widow" will be able to fill up the floor of the carrier group! Well, if this is a spider's nest (mosquito fleet), then the victim is doomed with 100% probability!))

[tihonmarine]

During the Second World War, the "sea hunters and torpedo boats" were the most productive.

[Zomanus]

To us at the Pacific Fleet there would be more of these.
Although these are likely to go to the BSF and BF.

[Alexander War]

At the Pacific Fleet it is necessary both MRK and new corvettes and frigates!

[Monarchist]

Opinion of my sofa: I’m more suitable for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet, and for the Pacific Fleet I need frigates or corvettes.
Regarding the fact that everything is the Black Sea Fleet, I think: it’s relatively calm in the Baltic while the south is worried

[Abel]

The Baltic and Black are inland seas. For such RTOs, the most

[Roman 11]

Quote: Zomanus

Although these are likely to go to the BSF and BF.

BF also needs to be backed up, aren't everyone on the BSF?

[tihonmarine]

And what on the Kuril Islands they will not pull ???

[Pirogov]

Quote: Zomanus

To us at the Pacific Fleet there would be more of these.
Although these are likely to go to the BSF and BF.

The series is probably large enough and some will be allocated to the Pacific Fleet.

[viktor.]

what a toothy is to a point! handsome man

[NEXUS]

RTOs of 800 tons, even the leading one in 2 years .... a disgrace. For comparison, Project 941 nuclear submarines with a displacement of 48000 tons over 4 years handed over to the fleet ... from the project to the serial production.

[Botanologist]

Quote: NEXUS

RTOs in 800 tons, even the head one for 2 of the year .... a disgrace

Well, we learned how to do RTOs, for example, in a month. For the year they handed over the entire series to the customer. We open GPV in the fleet up to 2030 - the money is dumb, the work is dumb. In the civilian market, too, no one is in the queue with money. What, everyone's unpaid?
It’s me that the economy must adapt to orders.

[Tusv]

RTOs of 800 tons, even the leading one in 2 years .... a disgrace. For comparison, Project 941 nuclear submarines with a displacement of 48000 tons over 4 years handed over to the fleet ... from the project to the serial production.

Andrew. This is not the case. In a lot of stuffing is not difficult. And in a small one, it’s very difficult to place so much where every micron is superfluous. And this is not a disgrace, but a very painstaking work

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

Andrew. This is not the case. In a lot of stuffing is not difficult

For a moment, in shipbuilding, the most difficult thing is to create a world-class nuclear submarine. So Vladimir, to cram a lot into the account, it's you for nothing ...

Quote: Tusv

And this is not a disgrace, but a very painstaking work

This is exactly what a disgrace! Karakurt should go off the assembly line like fried pies. For a minute, mattresses for 4 years are turning in a full-fledged multipurpose ... And we, at such a pace, are still talking about atomic leaders, aircraft carriers and BDKs.
SHAME!

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

For a moment, in shipbuilding, the most difficult thing is to create a world-class nuclear submarine.

There are no trifles in the carabling industry, but we do not regret much about the nuclear triad. We always do this, first make a bolt with an interesting thread for a partner, then everything else. Look how many strategists are in the ranks and how many hunters. And in modern times on 3 Boreas, one Ash

Karakurt should go off the assembly line like fried pies.

That is yes. But first, it was necessary to cram air defense, anti-aircraft defense, helipad, launchers for calibers and all this in a very limited space. For example. my friend’s father. received a State Prize for cutting a metal sheet. It seems to be a trifle, but spent 5 years on the derivation of the formula, so that from a ton of grams of waste it turns out

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

And in modern times on 3 Boreas, one Ash

Exactly ... what are the construction rates in general? For mattresses, if I am not mistaken, the 13th Virgin entered the fleet, and the series was laid in 30 units. We don’t have a ship laid down, it’s unfinished. Remind me how many MEPLs built Severodvinsk? With Kazan, it’s a bit better in time ... 10 years! And now remember TARK Nakhimov. Construction from scratch began at 83, and transferred to the fleet at 88 ... for a total of 5 years (roughly). The question is, how much is its modernization already going on? Since 2014! That is, already 3 years. And they are going to pass it no earlier than 20 years, and therefore 6 years for modernization. Maybe it was faster to build a ship from scratch? M

Quote: Tusv

But first it was necessary to stuff air defense, anti-aircraft defense, helipad, launchers for calibers and all this in a very limited space

There was a good platform for this Buyan-M survey. At the same time, whatever you may say, but the dimensions of the ship in construction and design are very important. More displacement means more shock and defensive systems, more command and control systems, the number and quality of radars, etc. ... so you don’t want to stuff everything into a big ship less difficult.

[Zibelew]

Andrei From scratch, a ship like Nakhimov at our shipyards is still unrealistic to build. Even the 22350 series was cut to 4 units. And MrK Buyan and Hurricane are ultrabudgetary arsenal ships that, after launching 8 calibers, lose their combat value and the crew can sing "Up, you comrades, everything’s in place, the last parade is coming, our proud is not giving up to the enemy ...".

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Zibelew

And MrK Buyan and Hurricane are ultra-budget ships, arsenals that, after launching 8 calibers, lose their combat value and the crew can sing "Up, you comrades,

consumables and order Brothers wooden pea jackets

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

There was a good platform for this Buyan-M survey.

Buyans is only for inner puddles :. The Caspian and the Russian, well, there Vietnam as a cabotage. There is no air defense, as such. And in the technical specifications of Karakurt, the near ocean zone is laid and I hope with more decent air defense. Well let's say the shelling of the shell. It is now 25 km long and 15 km in height and with a three flywheel rocket, they are already talking about 50 km in range. I don’t even dream, but I’m almost sure that there will be a numb shell

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tusv

. I don’t even dream, but I’m almost sure that there will be a numb shell

Duc, marine modification exists.

[Tusv]

Quote: Stroporez

Duc, marine modification exists

About the shelling of the shell we were informed three years ago. Where? On which ships is this implemented?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tusv

About the shelling of the shell we were informed three years ago. Where? On which ships is this implemented?

If you find out how to assemble the ground "Armor" Understand that the production is piece-wise, everything is assembled on the knee, there are no capacities of non-specialists. There are no sleds, I'm not talking about turners and milling machines, and what is a coordinate machine ...
There were enthusiasts ... And how many returns from the Arabs, they don’t like the chassis, then ....
Situevina is not very, I must bluntly say.

[Tusv]

Quote: Stroporez

If you find out how to assemble the ground "Armor"

But I don’t care how they collect the Shell. The main thing is that they are on duty at PVN, and not a fighter with a DShK. And besides, the rocket is not going to be kneeling at 1200 m / s, and there is automatic equipment that allows operators to drink beer. Please do not hite the collectors, the coolest weapons after the Nuclear. Five years ago, he spoke about the need to protect stationary S-400s, even if only one in two, now standardly. And if the standard weapons will be carried by Karakurt, then America can come up with sanctions as much as necessary. They do not concern us

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tusv

But I don’t care how they collect the Shell. The main thing is that they are on duty at PVN, and not a fighter with a DShK.

It will look cool. Do you have a good idea of ​​the combat characteristics of the Shell?
How many mattresses can rockets release at a time? What kind of “Shell” ???? Is this “Petrovsky Botik” how many will live in a real battle?
How many rocket mattresses did they release in Syria? Well, where is that “Armor?” We collect what we can and don’t need here to throw bonnets into the air in an ecstatic-erotic state. There is no reason for this!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tusv

K. Yes, and besides, the rocket is not going to be kneeling at 1200 m / s, and there is automation there that operators can drink beer. Please do not hite the collectors, the coolest weapons after Nuclear

Melee weapons, with limited ammunition.

[Tusv]

Calm down already. I am behind both my four paws, I will persuade all of my four cats and the brother-in-law will throw six by four. The shell is a curious chtuchka, but without a system it’s just an ordinary complex of the near zone. Without a system they’ll kill you very quickly.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

And in the technical specifications of Karakurt, the near ocean zone is laid

You ask the sailors what it’s like to say on a ship of 2000 tons to get into a storm in the open ocean ... I'm not talking about this midget. You will learn a lot of new things, believe me.
So you can forget about the ocean zone of a ship with a displacement of 800 tons, like a dream. Karakurt will have a maximum of places to go, it’s to the inland seas and then not for long and in clear weather. And so our coast will patrol under the umbrella of coastal air defense and missile defense.

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

You ask the sailors what it’s like to say on a ship of 2000 tons to get into a storm in the open ocean ... I'm not talking about this midget. You will learn a lot of new things, believe me.

They are afraid of storms not to go out to sea and they are different. Five Storm is a Class! Alas, at the mouth of the Dvina was only once and ran into. The four-ball storm in Gumista is no reason not to deliver the shell to the coach. . That is, for Karakurt. A five-point storm should not interfere with a combat mission, like Buyanu.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

That is, for Karakurt. A five-point storm should not interfere with a combat mission, like Buyanu.

In the open ocean, 5-6 points? On a sliver of 800 tons? Are you serious? The open ocean and the mouth of the Dvina are slightly different concepts.

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

In the open ocean, 5-6 points? laughing On a sliver of 800 tons? Are you serious? The open ocean and the mouth of the Dvina are slightly different concepts

So on and on a punt, with a resonance from the coast, not one and the same. Yes, and over 5 points and amers difficult to attack us. What am I talking about. If there are many of these with the Shells, then the Americans will not have to rely on their axes. They will simply stick their concept of a global blow into their guts and think about how to bend Russia in other ways. But we are patient, how can they not bend down to the grave

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tusv

If there are many of these with the Shells, then the Americans will not have to rely on their axes.

The “shell” is not a panacea, and it’s just so barking that the “shell” will protect everyone, it is at least sooooo arrogant.

[SergeBS]

Quote: NEXUS

In the open ocean, 5-6 points? laughing On a sliver of 800 tons? Are you serious? The open ocean and the mouth of the Dvina are slightly different concepts. wink

But sho, if 2000 tons will be - will it become easier? Seaworthiness and tonnage are not very related things. And the violet storm is violet, how many tons are the displacement - she has more of these tons. To argue like “only large tonnage should go in the ocean” is not even incompetence, it is sophism.
For the ocean zone, the main requirements (except for the military) are only 2:
1. Duration of autonomy. This is not a river for you, it will be carried away by a typhoon - you have to shkandyat 15 days before the house. But to eat hotstsa, and diesel diesel engine also wants to.
2. Seaworthiness (such as maximum roll, stability on a fault wave - recall the destroyers of the 7th, which the wave broke).
Все.
And that the "sliver" of 800 tons, that the bulk carrier of 100000 tons - in a storm, both will be equally "fun". Well, the bulk carrier will reel less on a wave, and nothing more. So in the tank it is still not so winding as on a boat. For instance. And nothing.

[Tusv]

Sorry, Andryukha, through you I answer the subscriber Stroporez. VO have some limitations

Quote: Stroporez

.You can well imagine the combat characteristics of the "Shell"?

Of course. The best anti-tamper device in the world. I already said that the rocket is 1200 m / s. Range 20 Height 15 .. No one has this

[Tusv]

Quote: Stroporez

The carapace "is not a panacea and it’s just so barking that the" carapace "will protect everyone is at least sooooo arrogant

.
I absolutely agree with you. We have Systemic Air Defense. Carapace, just a cog, Middle air defense
But what prevents pushing the system deep into the ocean? But alas, we saw American invisibility and draw conclusions.
These settings are not on your knees - this is world peace

[Vladimir1155]

I walked along the seas of a vessel with a displacement of 25 tons, so don’t scare me with a wave, I’m scared .... maybe aircraft carriers have come up with fearful sailors? I don’t think, The sea is not afraid of a real fighter, we can do everything, professionalism and courage will not only defeat the war but also overcome the war, not be afraid of the waves but the coast!

[Setrac]

Quote: NEXUS

For a minute, mattresses for 4 years, a full-fledged multi-purpose rent ...

Well, let's say not full, but very bullshit multi-purpose

[Evgeniy667b]

Andrei do not confuse the capabilities of the Union and Russia .. Then only 667B fleets were transferred 4 units a year. Much has been lost in Russia, if only they would not squander different Papuans, pah-Hindus ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Andrei do not confuse the capabilities of the Union and Russia .. Then only 667B fleets were transferred 4 units a year. Much has been lost in Russia, if only they would not squander different Papuans, pah-Hindus ....

Eugene, then what are we talking about when we yell at every corner, what do we wash them with? M Or, GIVE THE CARRIER TILL 25 YEARS! Is that all about?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: NEXUS

In the open ocean, 5-6 points? laughing On a sliver of 800 tons?

Quote: NEXUS

Eugene, then what are we talking about when we yell at every corner, what do we wash them with? M Or, GIVE THE CARRIER TILL 25 YEARS! Is that all about?

Taki agree with you! presenting the construction of the boat as the greatest insanity is stupid! Moreover, if x were sculpted like pies, or even one for the coming year, Mlyn is ashamed of a country with such potential.

[SergeBS]

Taki disagree. This boat is no simpler than a tank. Without the Armor, it’s quite suitable for reinforcing the border guards - 30 knots are not a bug sneezed. It will simply be cheaper to customize such a toothy one instead of the destroyer, so that the same Japanese do not rock the boat for their smugglers, who in our waters are pirating on the CTF.
But the shell-in the near zone is quite a thing. The division of such babies is quite a threat even to AUG. "Big dad" can bang? YES!
It’s like a TC in the Second World War - small, feeble, but created “big figures” problems.

[igorka357]

Do not accidentally tell about the successful operations of torpedo boats in the Second World War .. ? Cruisers and destroyers repelled the attacks of torpedo boats at a time!

[Vladimir1155]

I agree, the new aircraft carrier is about nothing, it will not be before 2035, and it is not necessary, and perhaps after 2035 it will not be

[Tusv]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Andrey do not confuse the possibilities of the Union and Russia.

By the way, the S-300 equipped Ukraine first and foremost, and we, in the old fashioned way, with the S-75, S-125 and S-200 triumvirate, kept the adversary one hundred km from the border and never once did the Yankees talk about “unprofessional actions”. Schaz flocked - on Mondays fly. We probably forgot that we have a hangover

[NUR]

I liked the ship and its weapons. True, the ocean does not descend, but in the near seas it is a formidable weapon.

[san4es]

Quote: NUR

. True, the ocean does not descend.

... If desired (Spain-Canada 1800 miles) ... without refueling ... Only there to do nefig

[Lord of the Sith]

In the picture above everything is painted Caliber 8 pcs.

[corporal]

For the first time, some kind of nonsense was opened instead of a picture, although there were text and photos. I thought that the ad block incorrectly removed the ads. That's why I asked.
Now I see it.

[UAB63]

Caliber how long is the rocket? How does she fit into this small building?

[corporal]

Quote: UAB63

Caliber how long is the rocket?

Very nice.

Quote: UAB63

How does she fit into this small building?

Folding patamushta.

[HEATHER]

Really Toothy. Krasava! With the completion of the Navy Day! But is there no way to build faster? Or camel rivets from Africa on camels being driven across the North Pole? Not a cruiser, like.

[Alexander War]

(RTO) “Hurricane” of project 22800 (code “Karakurt”) compare with pr.21631 Buyan-M, while Buyan-M is in plus gun 100 mm and not 76 mm and air defense

[Vladimir1155]

they’re not in a hurry, they are being replaced by decommissioned ones, for its construction it’s necessary to write off some old one, and they still go, why rush something

[Roman 11]

I am glad that the Shell replaced the AK-630M, and there are optical-electronic pickups and a radar, they immediately increased the efficiency ..... it's high time

[Alexander War]

Here is a video of Shell-ME

[Observer2014]

An excellent solution to the problem of banning the deployment of cruise missiles on the ground. Maneuverable. Along the rivers of Russia under the cover of air defense. Carries its own deadly cargo. Moreover, it can also protect itself. An ideal defensive weapon.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Observer2014

. Perfect

kamikaze weapon

[SergeBS]

But shaw, the Airborne Forces are not kamikdzes? However, they feel quite well. And even the elite are.

[Prjanik]

Why scare them ahead of time, let the inconspicuous river transport along the rivers go with all kinds of containers there

[magadan72]

Good boat! Needed! But that's why diesel is electric !? it’s the same price and weight. It’s interesting whether they are equipped with powerful optical-electronic search and guidance tools. It’s very tempting to approach the enemy without including POWERFUL RADARS. Apparently they won’t be large-scale. And so very good in terms of parameters.

[UAB63]

And lightnings on turbines, speed up to 45 knots, and the size is the same

[UAB63]

The higher the radar, the farther the video!

[SergeBS]

Quote: magadan72

But that's why diesel is electric !? the same rise in price and weight.

Is not a fact. From a diesel engine to drag a silovukha - "happiness".
Hint: BELAZES are large-capacity - all are diesel-electric. Why would that be?

[tlauicol]

Who wrote the text in the picture? For such nonsense, shave off your mustache and spread

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Tlauicol

Who wrote the text in the picture? For such nonsense, shave off your mustache and spread

and then hang and chop off your head

[Geisenberg]

They began to saturate the fleet on the principle of "cheap but cheerful." Well, the same option. Judging by the picture from the Black Sea, the whole of Europe is covered. Now 314ndos opa combed.

[11 black]

Quote: Geisenberg

They began to saturate the fleet on the principle of "cheap but cheerful." Well, the same option. Judging by the picture from the Black Sea, the whole of Europe is covered. Now 314ndos opa combed.

She will comb it when these RTOs will have 30 pieces, at least not even a runny nose from one of them

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Geisenberg

Judging by the picture from the Black Sea, the whole of Europe is covered. Now, at 314ndos, the opa is combed.

it’s the same as waving on an air mattress, shooting from a slingshot and a water gun

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Geisenberg

Judging by the picture from the Black Sea, the whole of Europe is covered. Now, at 314ndos, the opa is combed.

it’s the same as waving on an air mattress, shooting from a slingshot and a water gun

Yes, you can "whine" even on a cardboard horse, no one forbids.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: 11 black

Quote: Geisenberg

They began to saturate the fleet on the principle of "cheap but cheerful." Well, the same option. Judging by the picture from the Black Sea, the whole of Europe is covered. Now 314ndos opa combed.

She will comb it when these RTOs will have 30 pieces, at least not even a runny nose from one of them

So it will be ... you have no doubt.

[Vladimir1155]

for Europe there are iskanders, and the MRK is intended for convoys and the protection of territorial waters and fishing

[Prjanik]

Quote: Geisenberg

Now, at 314ndos, the opa is combed.

A lot of people are combed out, especially considering the range of 2.5 thousand km, in nuclear equipment. good

[sivuch]

The news, of course, is good. But for such pictures you need to tear your hands off by the very quirks. Even the ancient Wasp was painted.

[73bor]

The principle is correct - a bunch of eggs and everything is in different baskets, and try to get into these "baskets"!

[Vladimir1155]

I agree better than three mrk than one frigate

[Alexander War]

I am interested in SAM-Redut for pr 22350 dopilili? If not, let them build while those with Calm-1

[irazum]

Handsome man! Only slowly build ...

[Holoy]

All this is not that. MRK against AUG you can’t argue ...

[san4es]

Quote: Holoy

All this is not that. MRK against AUG you can’t argue ...

...But you must?

[Holoy]

and nowhere to go, the whole thing goes to war

[Observer2014]

Holoy

All this is not that. MRK against AUG you can’t argue ...

To AUG to drown or disable all ships in the squadron. One "Caliber" with 200 kilotons of nuclear warhead is enough. And in this boat there are 8 of them.

[Holoy]

Not a fact, they have EW, radar, air defense, missile defense at a good level ...

[Observer2014]

Holoy

Not a fact, they have EW, radar, air defense, missile defense at a good level ...

Yeah, the straight over pierced cap over the AUG. “Kursk” imitated the “Granit” volley several times during the Serbian bombing in the Atlantic. So these AUGs didn’t beat each other in a wild panic. Googled about this. On the “Kursk” after that campaign almost the entire crew was awarded .

[Holoy]

In combat conditions during the war, you can only talk about realities, and this reasoning is not what ...
At one time, a real battle took place between the ships of the US Navy and the Iranian Navy, at that time Iran had ships at the level, both sides used Harpoon anti-ship missiles, but the US electronic warfare skillfully counteracted, and the missiles flew by, and the Americans hit ...

And there is no reason to doubt the possibility of US electronics ...

[san4es]

Quote: Holoy

... at that time, Iran had ships at the level, both sides used Harpoon anti-ship missiles, but the US electronic warfare skillfully counteracted, and the missiles flew by, and the Americans hit ...
And there is no reason to doubt the possibility of US electronics ...

... But with the Iraqi did not work
The incident with the frigate Stark occurred in the Persian Gulf during the Iran-Iraq War. On May 17, 1987, the Mirage F1 aircraft of the Iraqi Air Force mistakenly attacked the Exoset AM.39 anti-ship missiles (RCC) by the US frigate USS Stark (FFG-31). As a result of the attack, a fire broke out, the ship received severe injuries, 37 sailors were killed and 21 were injured. The Iraqi government subsequently apologized to the American side. This was the first ever successful attack by an anti-ship missile ship of the US Navy.

[Holoy]

It’s hard to talk to a man who doesn’t even know what the US Navy AUG is! And the more so when this person, then changes the topic of conversation, then expands it ...

As for the incident of Iraq and the American Frigate, the Yankees there were knocked out by an essentially friendly strange one, teach the Materiel ... It wouldn’t have worked with a probable opponent ... and the AUG wasn’t there ...

[san4es]

Quote: Holoy

... and AUG was not there ...

... they have electronic warfare, radar, air defense, missile defense at a good level ...

... was not there either ...

[Alex Justice]

Cool music

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Holoy

And there is no reason to doubt the possibility of US electronics ...

But the fact that they are almighty is hard to believe.

[Holoy]

Quote: Geisenberg

But the fact that they are almighty is hard to believe.

Why? They then rule the world ...

[sivuch]

How are they? And we write that Putin personally appointed Trump as president.
And if you return to the topic, how else could the battle between American and Iranian ships end if both sides used Harpoons?
As for Stark, he’s a typical blooper cap. He was in the database zone and was obliged to monitor all parties to the conflict.

[Holoy]

What has the media already gone crazy in Israel? Cool ...
In general, if the US counterintelligence has managed, then it does not want to wander around the campaign silently ... In the USA, the Cloans were still those, there is no evidence, they are yelling ... especially the FBI, like we all overslept but they ...

[san4es]

Quote: Holoy

Not a fact, they have EW, radar, air defense, missile defense at a good level ...

... They do not stick torpedoes. (total for 4.32 min)

PS..PL is always somewhere nearby

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Observer2014

To AUG drown or disable all ships in the squadron. One "Caliber" with 200 kilotons of nuclear warhead is enough

To learn materiel urgently. In the USSR, they planned to attack the AUG with eight X-22s with special warheads ... and the result was not expected to destroy AUGs, but only suppress for a short time an EMP with a fire control radar pulse, which would minimize the loss of two Tu-22M3 regiments which, in fact, were supposed to destroy the AUG . At the same time, losses of flight personnel were planned up to 80% of the total

[shans2]

your pearls are something, there is no suppression, there the radars simply burn from the EMP ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: shans2

your pearls are something, there is no suppression, there the radars simply burn from the EMP ...

But for some reason the Soviet admirals did not think so. Where do they care about you

[SergeBS]

Well, I’m teaching materiel. A 200 kt flash explosion - kirdyk to everyone within a radius of 5 miles.
Moreover, the aircraft carrier will have the most - it is resistant to sea waves, and not "man-made". Big trough. And not very maritime. And also EMP, completely burning all kinds of headlights, etc.
The loss of 2 regiments of bombers and the loss of AUG are two big differences.
For the money too. No matter how cynical it sounds: 5 fighters with bundles of grenades that destroyed a tank and died at the same time (WWII) are cheaper than missing a tank that will destroy everything in a row. With the support of the infantry rushing after him.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: SergeBS

Well, I’m teaching materiel. A 200 kt flash explosion - kirdyk to everyone within a radius of 5 miles.

Considering that the explosion of a megaton warhead at a distance of 10 km leads only to minor damage and the death of 5% of the unprotected civilian population, and a 200 kiloton warhead is four times weaker, let me greatly doubt your equipment :)
In fact, even 10 km 200 kt AUG radars will not suppress.

Quote: SergeBS

Moreover, the aircraft carrier will have the most - he is resistant to sea waves, and not "man-made"

What kind of "waves" are we talking about? At a distance of 10 km, even with an underwater explosion, there will be no waves. The explosion of a 100 kiloton charge under water already at 5 km from the explosion does not damage the equipment, although swimmers and fish can be stunned

[SergeBS]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Given the fact that the explosion of a megaton warhead at a distance of 10 km leads only to minor damage and to the death of 5% of the unprotected civilian population

Pajota. In the sea, "a little" is not so. There, you see, waves form. Which boats drown. Well, trees, hills, mountains, ravines, etc. in the sea is not observed.
And by the way, I SPECIALLY formulated - "a water explosion."
Not air or underwater.

[Vladimir1155]

the smaller the vessel, the less noticeable it is, and in general aug need to be wetted with submarines

[SergeBS]

2 "Andrey from Chelyabinsk":
Discovered America...
AUGs must extinguish the "bottom" cruiser submarine, and the "top" long-range air forces.
Well, send the “otvetku” “from below” to the “strategists” submarines (with the support of the same “cruisers” so as not to offend any “Oklahomas”, etc.), and “from above” - to the “strategists” from the Air Force.

[Irkutsk layman]

There is such a, well, a very small bird - a hummingbird. And there are such small boats - corvettes! But they, corvettes, and with hummingbirds, create such a haemorrhoids to strike aircraft carrier groups!

[Old26]

Quote: Novel 11

I am glad that the Shell replaced the AK-630M

Not arrived yet. It will be only from the third building

[Alexander War]

Well, in general, the AK-630 M was replaced by the AK-630 M2-Duet, depending on the class of the ship, where you can put the AK-630 M2-Duet on the sides of the ship where the Shell is -ME

[tchoni]

Personal IMHO. Three-inch nasal is also good to replace the carapace. The sense of it is not so, that would be very, but the weight in it is 15 tons .......

[Vladimir1155]

when fighting pirates with terrorists and poachers, as well as scaring someone, you can use an artusanovka, this is a corvette ..... that’s exactly what it has

[tchoni]

It depends on how you look. The ammunition load of two shells is only two times less than three inches. The warhead’s weight is 4 times that of a three-inch weapon, and the range of a shell rocket is a quarter more. Drive poaching schooners - I don’t want ..... And 8 thirty at a distance of two miles is generally God's passion, where is the phalanx .... or some other goalkeeper ...

[Old26]

Quote: Alexander War

Well, in general, the AK-630 M was replaced by the AK-630 M2-Duet, depending on the class of the ship, where you can put the AK-630 M2-Duet on the sides of the ship where the Shell is -ME

What replaced whom and to whom is the tenth matter. On this building, as an air defense system, there are two AK-630M assault rifles. And no Duet.

Quote: Observer2014

An excellent solution to the problem of banning the deployment of cruise missiles on the ground. Maneuverable. Along the rivers of Russia under the cover of air defense. Carries its own deadly cargo. Moreover, it can also protect itself. An ideal defensive weapon.

On the rivers - yes. But just how do you see the routes of its movement? On the Volga? Or along the Irtysh? Or maybe on the Amur? It seems that some comrades think that the series will be in several hundred pieces and simply do not know where to put these ships ...

Quote: Irkutsk layman

There is such a, well, a very small bird - a hummingbird. And there are such small boats - corvettes! But they, corvettes, and with hummingbirds, create such a haemorrhoids to strike aircraft carrier groups!

Yeah. especially not having almost any air defense and anti-aircraft defense. Gemmoroy create. And with subsonic anti-ship missiles with a range of 4 hundred kilometers. Of course hemorrhoids. Again, a pancake from a good ship begin to "wunderwaffe" sculpt

[Alexander War]

And with subsonic anti-ship missiles with a range of 4 hundred kilometers. PKR-Onyx over sound missiles!

[tchoni]

Quote: Old26

On the rivers - yes. But just how do you see the routes of its movement? On the Volga? Or along the Irtysh? Or maybe on the Amur?

Dear, have you heard such a funny saying as: “Moscow is the territory of the five seas”? . So I am reporting to you that you can get to the capital of our homeland WATERWAY and the Black, Azov, Caspian, Baltic and White Seas. And the presence of river-sea vessels equipped with operational caliber tactical missiles with a launch range of about 2000 km allows the very large number of states both in Europe and in the neighboring countries, and in some cases not quite, in the east to drink blood.

[Old26]

Quote: Alexander War

And with subsonic anti-ship missiles with a range of 4 hundred kilometers. PKR-Onyx over sound missiles!

Are you sure that we no longer have anything to put onyxes on? which are produced in approximately the same quantity as the "Caliber", that is, somewhere around 60 pieces per quarter. Do we have all ships of a higher rank already armed with onyxes, is it only left to equip vessels with a displacement of 800 tons? In this case, they plan to "Caliber". And do you seriously think that such a boat without anti-aircraft defense and without anti-aircraft defense with 8 launchers for cruise missiles will be able to approach the range of the AUG shot?
A ship that is essentially an OVR ship? Weakly armed, with a minimum of REV?

[Alexander War]

A cargo ship was enough for Arly Burke))) with all their Aegis and others))

[san4es]

... And for the poor fellow USS "Cole" - a rubber boat ... home came back on the shield

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Alexander War

A cargo ship was enough for Arly Burke))) with all their Aegis and others))

Fool a glass member for 5 minutes. He will break it and cut his hands.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Old26

in the same amount as the "Caliber", that is, somewhere around 60 pieces per quarter

Given the number of carriers, it’s not really necessary anymore.

Quote: Old26

such a ship without air defense and without anti-aircraft defense with 8 launchers for cruise missiles will be able to approach the range of the AUG shot

It depends on where. It’s unlikely in the ocean, but they won’t send him there, but options are already possible in SM. Well, at the World Cup it will be quite effective

[sivuch]

Maybe, of course, the main thing is for this to happen before the official start of the database

[BARHAN]

Several could be based on Ladoga. And from there, even to the Baltic Sea, even to the Caspian Sea, along the Volga-Baltic Sea, even to the Black Sea, through the Volga-Don Canal.

[Alexander Stepanovich]

8 calibers. Not enough?

[Alexander Stepanovich]

There would be three dozen, but to the base in Havana.

[UAB63]

The lightning has 16 onyx missiles, 8 on each side, there are only 8 and inside the hull, how to shove them into a small ship ?. There are only 8 on the frigate and then in the nose

[Rostovchanin]

Science in more detail for lightning with onyx !? I almost fell off the couch! And 8 more on each side!

[sivuch]

Come on.. Well, Onyx confused with Garp ..., sorry, X-35. With whom it does not happen

[UAB63]

Quote: Old26

Quote: Novel 11

I am glad that the Shell replaced the AK-630M

Not arrived yet. It will be only from the third building

Nowhere is there a shell

[UAB63]

Quote: UAB63

Quote: Old26

Quote: Novel 11

I am glad that the Shell replaced the AK-630M

Not arrived yet. It will be only from the third building

Nowhere is there a shell

Quote: Zibelew

RTO Hurricane does not have air defense. Even on the old 1234 mrk there was a full-fledged Osa complex, and here it was only ak-630. The survivability of the ship leads to bad thoughts, given the presence of aircraft and PCR at the adversary.

Quote: oleg-gr

Small but toothy. A hint of a fish called piranha?

Small and Toothy is Lightning

[Monarchist]

Quote: Zibelew

RTO Hurricane does not have air defense. Even on the old 1234 mrk there was a full-fledged Osa complex, and here it was only ak-630. The survivability of the ship leads to bad thoughts, given the presence of aircraft and PCR at the adversary.

So Borisov says: “the third ship of the Pella” will go with the “shell” already, it would be desirable from the first, but apparently they didn’t have anything and only the third will.
Regarding the AK630, I am not a sailor (comrades are sailors, sorry), but expressed my opinion: “karakurts” should operate in the coastal zone, where they will be covered from the shore, and such an installation would be enough to drive off low-flying targets

[Andrew]

Handsome!)

[Andrew]

Um ... According to all the news publications, it was written that the lead “Hurricane” would have to have, up to the third ship of the series, the Kashtan air defense missile system and, later, the marine version of the “Shell”. And then ... AK-630 ... What is the AK-630 !? This ship, drowned for sure ...

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Andrew

Um ... According to all the news publications, it was written that the lead “Hurricane” would have to have, up to the third ship of the series, the Kashtan air defense missile system and, later, the marine version of the “Shell”. And then ... AK-630 ... What is the AK-630 !? This ship, drowned for sure ...

You yourself are a drowned man. AK-630 is just what was in front of the shell.

[Andrew]

Sorry, what? Did you understand what you said? Instead, the planned ZRPK "Chestnut" are 2 AK-630. And if it flies above it, a high-altitude UAV, for example, like the Global Hawk? What then? It can fly at an altitude of up to 20 km. You can only make laugh with these little balls! Yes, and “Chestnut” from itself, already does not represent anything ...

[petrol cutter]

"Pella" should come to our factory. To carry out supply and security of orders under construction, so to speak. We are already looking forward to this fateful event. Now for 22800 - there is one count the finished building, the second building in the process. As air collectors need a normal tool. He is categorically lacking. The plant’s management ignores and sabotages (I’m not afraid of this word) requests from personnel to supply the tool. The deadlines are fulfilled only due to the personal enthusiasm and consciousness of the workers. Such a "squiggle" ..

[Music]

The next one must be called Scorpio

[Linkor200]

As you can see, the Russian fleet is rapidly fading. Instead of full-fledged cruisers and destroyers - frigates with corvettes, instead of frigates with corvettes - small missile ships. And what kind of beast - MRK? Will he survive a malomalski decent storm somewhere in the Atlantic? Of course not. But whether he can withstand a series of launches by the famous Caliber without side effects - that is, the weakening of the hull and violation of welded seams is not a fact. Unfortunately, Russia was never famous for large ships - that under Ushakov, that under Istomin, that under Nakhomov. The Soviet Union continued this tradition. If it goes on like this, the Gauges will start from the boats.

[SergeBS]

That's all according to tradition.
The main thing is to ask a question yourself and answer yourself - as in Odessa-mom.
And I beg you - "Russia has never been famous for large ships ..."
And sho? Where were the large non-Russian-made ships?
Hint: "it’s easier to get into the big face with a brick."
Well, after this hit, the question of "weakening the body", etc. just removed. There is no one to bullet. Type "proudly walked - proudly and gurgled." No goals left.
So what is there for the "big ships" like the Iowa spill? Do they still go? Not to the banana republics?
Well, I understand that such a battleship will come of itself and without tension, 1/3 of Israel will “a little love” from the Mediterranean. Fearfully. But Israel is not the Russian Federation.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Linkor200

Will he survive a malomalski decent storm somewhere in the Atlantic?

Will he go there?

Quote: Linkor200

And if he can withstand a series of launches of the famous "Caliber" without side effects - that is a bish weakening of the body and violation of welded seams

Other RTOs survived.

Quote: Linkor200

that under Ushakov, that under Istomin, that under Nakhomov

Oh really?

[Vladimir1155]

why did mrk go out into the ocean? and why do navy surface ships go out into the ocean?

[SergeBS]

Quote: Old26

A ship that is essentially an OVR ship? Weakly armed, with a minimum of REV?

Taki he did not approach the AUG. And AUG to him. With the corresponding difference about air defense, etc. He is small, only the AUG air group against OVR "will not dance." This is not Africa. Ground-based aviation will lay down the carrier’s aircraft group “at a time”. And getting into this kid (with the support of the OVR) is unrealistic.

[Vladimir1155]

getting real though is more difficult than a cruiser, but I think it is not designed to fight aug, aug will be destroyed by aviation and coast-based missiles, as well as submarines

[Old26]

Quote: SergeBS

Ground-based aviation will lay down the carrier’s aircraft group “at a time”

That is if only ground-based aviation would have been in sufficient quantities. And then, after all, the South (for example) protects the whole TWO regiment on the “dryers”. One in the Crimea, one in the Caucasus. And in order for such a boat to “break through” the defense of the warrant, then 80 subsonic missiles would be too small for him.

[SergeBS]

And the aircraft carrier in the Black Sea cannot appear. By international agreement from the last century. In case of violation of the agreement, it’s not far to Turkey, and the straits can be “slightly corrected” - for the "Caliber" the task is to assess a priori 4 points, and with a little luck - by 5 points.
Violation of the agreement is quite an excuse to shoot back in the straits, and then either the "big dad" ran aground in the strait, or he "came naked, naked and drowned." Pass AUG through the straits? In violation of the statute of straits, etc.?
That is why "Moscow", etc. - not aircraft carriers, but aircraft carriers.
They through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles - can roam, but the aircraft carriers - no.

[Vladimir1155]

you are wrong, the agreement restricts the rights of other countries, and the Russian Federation, Turkey and Bulgaria with Romania have the right to introduce AB into the Black Sea

[SergeBS]

Yeah. Countries with access to the Black Sea, Suddenly an aircraft carrier will set up.
Where? Which shipyard?

[kartalovkolya]

Seven feet under the keel! Glory to the Russian Navy!

[Boris Radevich]

Happy Holidays guys keep it in spite of the enemies of Russia!

[Boris Radevich]

Happy holiday!

[Vladimir1155]

happy holiday, sub here it is the true strength of the Navy

[kefan]

Had the ship been handed over to the fleet, I hope so.

[Eflintuk]

Too much noise around these "calibers" - it looks like a pr company for internal use, like all these parades with the advent of nuclear powered ships in the Baltic. And how will target designation on surface targets for these calibers occur? For the “granites”, the “legend” microcenter was created, which died safely (now they are trying to revive the analogue), but with these how? Or this little boat is a shmalln "in that direction" and a caliber for 2 t.km. Will the aircraft carrier hit? It’s not for warehouses of barmaleys on land to bullet. And the "flock" of eight armored granites released looks more serious than this caliber, although that chances were slim.

[Veteran]

KR 3M-14 complex "Caliber" work only on ground targets and they do not need the control center as a surface target, it flies over the terrain and is corrected by satellite signals. And for the RCC 3M-54, flying to 300 - 400 km, it should be borne in mind that the RTOs that use them along the SC will be located in the near sea zone or in its coastal zone, where it can receive CC from several different sources, including ZGRLS illuminating the surface situation for hundreds of kilometers, or from aviation. ICRC is needed for the Center for Scientific Center located in the distant sea and ocean zones, and will be created ("Liana").

[Best]

Translated "Karakurt" - "Black Widow."

[The splinter]

Not bad. The Russian fleet today is in such a state of neglect that every new combat unit is worth its weight in gold. Another thing is that installing two AKA-630s as air defense is not a good idea. If only they installed the ZRAK, such as Broadsword, if they are not yet sure of the marine version of the Shell.

[SergeBS]

Quote: Stroporez

How many mattresses can rockets release at a time? What kind of “Shell” ???? Is this “Petrovsky Botik” how many will live in a real battle?

A very simple question: if a crowd of axes will be released into "shells" of 800 tons, then how will they STILL fight off URG frigates, etc.? Pampers?

[gregor6549]

Not a sailor, but ... the sailors have questions.
Question times. Why in the picture 100 mm gun mount, and in the text 76 mm
Question two: How will the Shell be able to protect the ship from air attacks if they come from different directions?
Land explorers with this problem are simpler. He put several Armor, cut each his own zone of responsibility and bullet. Yes, I diluted the TOPs and not only them. And then one Carapace has to turn its head in different directions. So after all, the head will ache. After all, the same mattresses have long been using universal vertical launching installations, which provide the possibility of simultaneous (or almost simultaneous) shelling of air targets attacking a ship from different directions in azimuth and elevation. And the ship’s radar should already have a multifunctional one with AFARs covering the viewing area in 360 degrees in azimuth and about 90 degrees in elevation, and all kinds of auxiliary radars for target illumination and guidance overboard.
And three. For some reason, all the time discussing issues relating to individual ships, small and large. But after all, N. Kuznetsov, who was the Admiral of the Fleet of the Union and a very competent admiral, argued that the fleet should be balanced in forces and means, and one, even the most super duper ship, is not a warrior in the sea. For some reason, mattresses have long adopted such a concept in building their fleet, and we, as always, go our own way, and in the other direction. After all, it’s one thing to bullet calibers in Syria when no one is shooting at you, and the coordinates of the targets are known accurate to the name of the one in the center of the circle. But what will happen when there will be problems with reconnaissance of targets, and there will be more than enough hunters to shoot at the ship. How will this boat get off? Maybe he will manage to bring down a couple of air targets before these goals drown him. Or maybe they won’t have time
Questions, questions

[Oqtagooi]

Quote: gregor6549

Question times. Why in the picture 100 mm gun mount, and in the text 76 mm

Because infographics were made by a person who knows how to draw infographics, but he didn’t care about the contents. This has already been discussed.

Quote: gregor6549

Question two: How will the Shell be able to protect the ship from air attacks if they come from different directions?

In addition to the shell on this ship, there are also electronic warfare equipment.

Quote: gregor6549

But what will happen when there will be problems with reconnaissance of targets, and there will be more than enough hunters to shoot at the ship. How will this boat get off? Maybe he will manage to bring down a couple of air targets before these goals drown him. Or maybe they won’t have time

Read how the Jews did it back in 1972:
http://cmboat.ru/katera/missilemotorboat/rk102/
There, by the way, battles from the Soviet-era Republic of Kazakhstan were described. Anyway, the material provides answers to many questions about why, where and in what quality such ships are needed, and also why the rework of the TK in the RK failed, although at first everything was very rosy.

[NordUral]

These "kids" must be put on stream and placed in dozens of places across all sea and ocean basins, and not dream of unrealistic and unnecessary aircraft carrier groups that the Union could not afford, not to mention real Russia.

[Oqtagooi]

Well, for those who have been banned for life in Google. :)

Today, from RTOs, we have 26 Lightnings with an average age of 42 years, and 12 Gadgets with an average age of 30 years. The newest Gadfly was built in 1992, so there is no question of modernization. By the time Tarantulas were completed, the RTOs of the Soviet construction site were already physically unable to remain in service.

The plans for today are the construction of 10 rocket Buyans, for the Caspian Sea, and 20 Tarantulas, for the Black Sea Fleet and Baltic Fleet. These ships are unlikely to get to the Pacific Fleet, because they wanted to build more navigable RTOs there, but so far there is no money, no opinion on the performance characteristics of RTOs for the Pacific Fleet.