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Ombudsman: girls are deprived of the right to perform military service, the situation should be changed

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Girls are infringed upon the right to serve in military service in the Armed Forces of Russia, reports RAPS Statement of the Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation Tatyana Moskalkova.



Maybe not everyone will support me, but I believe that the girls we have infringed the right to serve as military service as a soldier,
said Moskalkova at the youth forum "Territory of meanings on Klyazma".

According to the Ombudsman, her address “regularly receives messages from women representatives who want to serve, learn military professions, become pilots.” She called for a change in the situation in this area, since it is “wrong” to restrain the desire of Russian women.

Also, according to Moskalkova, it is necessary to take more effective measures to support the widows of servicemen killed in the line of duty.

This is a huge platform for help: orphans, widows, servicemen who retired,
she noted.

Earlier, in 2012, Moskalkova, being a deputy from “Fair Russia”, offered to send summoned girls to the age of majority with a proposal to serve in the army. But, unlike men, women will not be liable for military service, so they will have the right to choose whether to serve as an appeal or not.
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  1. vch
    vch 26 July 2017 15: 41
    +34
    Well, the girls in the barracks at the time were not enough! Do we have no one else to defend our homeland?
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 26 July 2017 15: 42
      +63
      Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone. Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse of days on 30 for delirium.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 26 July 2017 15: 45
        +63
        I believe that our girls are deprived of the right to serve in military service as a soldier,

        She needs to be called up for service as a soldier. The little woman thinks that this is a paradise on earth. Here only your own skin can set the brains. A woman was born to be a mother and mistress in the house. But apparently this is not about this creature in a skirt.
        Once again, I’m convinced that life in decrypts demolishes the tower for people. For these razotoman all in pink.
        This is needed in the construction battalion. Let a couple of years (as before) work hard for the good of the Motherland. Well, at the same time, at the summer cottages of generals he works for balabas.

        One of the main problems the school sees is rectangular-shaped classes. Give her round and life in the country will improve. This girl sends an army soldier to serve. Where do they find them ???
        1. figwam
          figwam 26 July 2017 15: 46
          +19
          Maybe not everyone will support me, but I think that our girls are deprived of the right to serve in military service as a soldier

          So the right to give birth will soon be given to peasants.
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 July 2017 15: 56
            +6
            Jokes are jokes, but there may be children ...
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 26 July 2017 17: 17
              +34
              That is, contract service for women is not enough? Urgent serve? Are rabid feminism brought from the West? Foolishness is complete ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 26 July 2017 17: 37
                +17
                The Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation, Tatyana Moskalkova, is a lawyer by her basic evening education, well, + some kind of sad candidate for her philosophy.
                And what is normal in terms of conscripting girls for military service, Moskalyov can offer without ever being on the front line while serving in the police?
                She is not even a practicing doctor - GYNECOLOGIST - as the Minister of Defense of modern Germany!

                In this matter, she is simply an underdeveloped career-mercantile pro-Western limited FEMINIST!
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 26 July 2017 17: 44
                  +14
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  In this matter, she is simply an underdeveloped career-mercantile pro-Western limited FEMINIST!

                  These are the same thoughts! And also, as I see it, an attempt on her part to illustrate "the horse will stop racing, it will enter a burning hut.". It is stupid ... Or is it such a signal to the West that Russia is ready for war with them and "Get up, the country is huge!"? I don’t understand this ...
                2. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 26 July 2017 19: 29
                  +9
                  Quote: Tatiana

                  In this matter, she is simply an underdeveloped career-mercantile pro-Western limited FEMINIST!

                  A normal woman will not be called OmbudsMEN ..
              2. hohkn
                hohkn 27 July 2017 12: 45
                +2
                Quote: Jedi
                That is, contract service for women is not enough? Urgent serve? Are rabid feminism brought from the West?

                Everything is much simpler. The difference between fixed-term and contractual service is in one thing - in money (well, in the term of service too).
                Since January 1, 2012, a soldier in the primary military position of “shooter” receives an official salary of 1 rubles per month. For the title, payments are not due to him.
                A contract serviceman in the same position receives 10 rubles per month + 000 rubles for the rank of “ordinary”.
                For squad leaders, with the rank of sergeant, the difference is even more significant:
                urgent service 1 + 400 = 0
                under the contract 15 + 000 = 6
                In addition, the contractors have a whole system of additional rewards, including monthly bonuses, material assistance, etc.

                In addition, try to get the contractor to do something at an unofficial time without an appropriate payment ... But for the conscript, it’s easy. The conscript simply does not have such a thing as unofficial time.
                The contractor can also be forced to plow for free, but no one has robbed him of the right to appeal to special police officers or to the military prosecutor’s office.
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          2. The black
            The black 26 July 2017 16: 16
            +6
            Quote: figvam
            м

            So the right to give birth will soon be given to peasants.

            In Europe they gave ... they are trying their best, but so far they can’t give birth wassat
            1. midivan
              midivan 26 July 2017 18: 45
              +5
              Quote: Black
              So the right to give birth will soon be given to peasants.
              In Europe they gave ... they are trying their best, but so far they can’t give birth

              So this is where they try, there can’t be children from there lol laughing
        2. pjastolov
          pjastolov 26 July 2017 15: 54
          +8
          But apparently this is not about this creature in a skirt.
          and not only in a skirt
        3. Andrey591
          Andrey591 26 July 2017 18: 15
          +4
          Right! Let the example show itself!
          1. hohkn
            hohkn 27 July 2017 12: 46
            +1
            Quote: Andrey591
            Right! Let the example show itself!

            Only not with these, but with pure epaulets.
        4. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 26 July 2017 21: 12
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir16
          This girl sends an army soldier to serve. Where do they find them ???


          Come on, colleague. On burning huts and horses to tear eggs (this is not about CSKA laughing !) Prepared girls should work better. Why are there few in the Army now? Well, let it be more. Our Bagheerams ... Going towards is a holy cause. I think so .
        5. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 19 August 2017 22: 13
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir16
          This is needed in the construction battalion.

          Two soldiers from the construction battalion replace the excavator. Give her a shovel. feel
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 26 July 2017 15: 48
        +16
        all the same, they are not allowed into the combat zone.

        In the event of a large-scale war, our women will fight in the same way as in the Second World War ... by doctors, snipers, signalmen, etc. ... in general, where the qualities of women are most manifested ...
        The ponder should explain in more detail to the people what women really want ... to fight on the front line is one thing, and to serve in the rear is another.
        I don’t think that bloody battles with militants should be entrusted to women ... all the same, this massacre is not for women ... and then imagine that a cute girl will be torn off by a mine in a raid somewhere ... how then she will live with it ... all this is not good.
        1. vinc
          vinc 26 July 2017 22: 21
          +3
          In the event of a large-scale war, it is not known where and to whom and with whom it will be necessary to fight. Look in hohland strongly fascists threw their hats? (If it weren’t for the volunteers there wouldn’t be LDNR for a long time). And how many women have suffered in this, who may be glad to do something, but do not know how.
          And judging by the fact that most users only dream of sending a woman to the barracks for re-education, to fight women, with such and such defenders, oh, how it threatens.
      3. pjastolov
        pjastolov 26 July 2017 15: 51
        +16
        According to the Ombudsman, she “regularly receives messages from female representatives who wish to serve, learn military professions, become pilots».
        and she doesn’t know that in order to become pilots it is necessary to finish school, she smoked something serious, not weed fool
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 26 July 2017 20: 46
          +4
          Quote: pjastolov
          and she doesn’t know that in order to become pilots it is necessary to finish school

          And why are modern girls worse than their bumps? request

          Or peers from other countries?
          1. pjastolov
            pjastolov 26 July 2017 20: 53
            +7
            And why are modern girls worse than their bumps?
            What are you talking about? did they go to serve on appeal? or did you just want to speak out? recourse
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 26 July 2017 21: 24
              +6
              Quote: pjastolov
              Did they go to serve on appeal?

              So no one suggests making them military liable - have you ever read the article? belay
              If people women want to serve their country - why discriminate against it? Protecting a chauvinistic worldview?
              I didn’t just post a photo of a Pakistani aviator - if even with them, the woman became a fighter pilot, then what can I say?
              Yes - I'm also not happy with women in combat units and at the forefront, but not in my right to limit the right to choose и equal opportunity of another person - these are the basics forming a healthy society.
              1. pjastolov
                pjastolov 26 July 2017 21: 34
                +6
                answer then, perhaps the chosen ones know better the Russian language, what does this mean:
                Girls are deprived of the right to serve in the Armed Forces of Russia,
                request ?
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 26 July 2017 21: 45
                  +4
                  As I understand it, there are gender restrictions, that is, a woman is limited in her ability to serve whom and where.
                  Why limit a person to factors beyond his control? This is trite unfair.
                  You know how the striped decided the "female" question in the special forces - they just did not lower the bar according to the requirements (they demand it from men), they want to - let them torture their happiness fellow so far none have passed yes . (This year, two more are trying) But no one feels unfairly infringed on their rights. request
                  Sometimes you just have to trust in natural selection.
                  1. pjastolov
                    pjastolov 26 July 2017 21: 54
                    +6
                    Here you are saying everything correctly, but, for you, I translate into a normal language
                    Citizens between the ages of 18 and 27 who are initially registered with the military are called up for military service in the army. The appeal takes place twice a year - from April to July, and also from October to December. The following factors are taken into account: people participating in the educational process (teachers, educators) are called from May to June, and those participating in agricultural work from October to December.

                    The order of service of conscripts is regulated by the law "On Military Duty and Military Service", the Regulation on the Procedure for Military Service.
                    it is not a contract, and not a personal desire - it is an obligation hi
                    1. Saints
                      Saints 27 July 2017 09: 53
                      0
                      Well, as if her proposal "But, unlike men, women will not be liable for military service, so they will have the right to choose for themselves whether to serve on conscription or not." Although from 2012, but I think that is exactly what she is promoting now. They want to serve, let them serve. I do not think that all the girls will run on the agenda to serve if it is not necessary for them. Why not? They want to join the army. And as they said above for girls, it’s just not to lower the bar according to the standards in educational institutions. If they agree with such conditions, let them go. Why are you all against that?
                  2. iliitchitch
                    iliitchitch 26 July 2017 22: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Sometimes you just have to trust in natural selection.


                    Why are you so worried about us? Yes, everything is normal with us, evolution.
                    You’re better there than firewoods in a campfire in BV toss a little less, and everything will be fine.
                  3. DOCTOR ZLO
                    DOCTOR ZLO 26 July 2017 22: 43
                    +2
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    As I understand it, there are gender restrictions, that is, a woman is limited in her ability to serve whom and where.

                    We carefully read the article:
                    Girls are restricted in their right to pass military service in the Armed Forces of Russia, the RAPSI reports the statement of the Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation Tatyana Moskalkova.

                    We read the current federal legislation of the Russian Federation:
                    граждане male at the age from 18 to 27 years, whether registered or not, but obliged to be registered and not in reserve (hereinafter - citizens who are not in reserve)

                    a) part 1, article 22 of the Federal Law of 28.03.1998 N 53-ФЗ (as amended by 01.05.2017) "On Military Duty and Military Service" (as amended and supplemented, entered into force on 28.06.2017)
                    http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18
                    260/d9310158b46b4612b367bfdee4a2cb6f4e0566a4/
                    This rule of law does not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation, because corresponds directly from it:
                    A citizen of the Russian Federation carries out military service in accordance with federal law.

                    Part 2 Art. 59 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_28
                    399/5004a75d54e54d5824c87ac2b96954f252610504/
                    Israel Military Service Law extends its effect to citizens of the state of Israel, as well as to persons permanently residing in the territory of Israel or having dual citizenship and living in the territory of another country. Depending on age and circumstances, compulsory military service is divided into military service and reserve service. The appeal is subject to boys and girls who have reached 18 years. The standard term of service for Israeli citizens is 36 months (32 in combat units) for men and 24 months for women. For repatriates, terms and categories of service are established depending on age at the date of first arrival in Israel and marital status.

                    In the state of Israel (as in Great Britain and some other countries of the world) there is no written Constitution (there is no single constitutional act, such as in the Russian Federation, the USA, Ukraine and most countries of the world), however, the constitutional norms are spelled out in separate laws (in Israel they are placed to the Code of Basic Laws) ...
                    So Israeli Jews say that:
                    there are gender restrictions, that is, a woman is limited in her ability to serve whom and where

                    frankly troll and “hang noodles on the ears” to many here on the site, in fact, Israel limits the rights of their women to serve or not, almost all women in Israel have no such choice, military service is obligatory for them ...
                    Meanwhile, the Constitution of the Russian Federation clearly states that:
                    Men and women have equal rights and freedoms and equal opportunities for their realization.

                    Part 3 Art. 19 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    Labor is free. Everyone has the right to freely dispose of their abilities to work, to choose their occupation and profession.

                    Part 1 Art. 37 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_28
                    399 /
                    Never trusted Israeli Jews ...

                    Ms. Tatyana Moskalkova apparently suggests amending the current federal legislation and changing the norm I have indicated above to the following option:
                    Citizens between the ages of 18 and 27 years old, military registered or not, but obliged to be military registered and not in reserve (hereinafter - citizens not in reserve)

                    those. just remove the phrase "male" and all ...

                    True, aunty for some reason missed such a detail (apparently far from the life of the Army and the People) that for more than 10 years there has been no draft from many Caucasian republics (or a limited draft), i.e. she suggests that girls after the 11 class should be called up to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, while “persons of suspicious nationality” from the Southern Federal District of the Russian Federation, without having passed the “term”, will calmly occupy positions in the civil and municipal service or simply exist without repaying the debt to the Motherland .. .
                  4. AVGUST
                    AVGUST 27 July 2017 07: 26
                    +1
                    Do not confuse the obligation with the right, you can use the right either or not, and you must fulfill the obligation ...
                    1. DOCTOR ZLO
                      DOCTOR ZLO 27 July 2017 08: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: AVGUST
                      Do not confuse the obligation with the right, you can use the right either or not, and you must fulfill the obligation ...

                      Why did you say explain?
              2. warriordima
                warriordima 26 July 2017 22: 13
                +2
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Quote: pjastolov
                Did they go to serve on appeal?

                So no one suggests making them military liable - have you ever read the article? belay
                If people women want to serve their country - why discriminate against it? Protecting a chauvinistic worldview?
                I didn’t just post a photo of a Pakistani aviator - if even with them, the woman became a fighter pilot, then what can I say?
                Yes - I'm also not happy with women in combat units and at the forefront, but not in my right to limit the right to choose и equal opportunity of another person - these are the basics forming a healthy society.

                And you thought about the "infringement of the rights" of poor soldiers who will be forced to break their lives because of a couple of three silly girls who have seen Hollywood films, you propose to break discipline in the army. And then transvestites will talk about infringement of rights and they will be supported by the global LGBT community.
                Infringement of rights is a slippery topic ... and equality and justice are not the same., Zionists and Masons and goyim of all stripes do not corrupt Russia Mother and do not hope, better think better.
              3. hohkn
                hohkn 27 July 2017 12: 50
                +2
                Quote: And Us Rat
                So nobody offers to make them military liable

                Yeah! And if you have a military card, they will already be liable for military service. Everything is in accordance with the law on military service. Without a military card - non-military, but only will receive - the status will immediately change. Return no longer return.
      4. Morm
        Morm 26 July 2017 16: 24
        +4
        I join the majority opinion - I am also against the service of women in the army. But !!! There are exceptions. Here 102 is the Russian base in Gyumri - state of emergency at the state of emergency - either a soldier shoots a whole family of seven people, then one soldier from a unit kills another, either military men steal radios from tanks and sell them, then one Armenian kills a Russian canine soldier outside the Russian base, from the photographs it is a harmless and intelligent person. And what about replacing male soldiers specifically in Gyumri with women? Women are stress resistant and they won’t take the machine will not shoot the family. Women will not kill each other with such frenzy and
        1. Morm
          Morm 26 July 2017 16: 32
          +3
          And finally, none of the Armenians will get into killing a female soldier in the city. Pluses are everywhere. And as for the drop in defense, 4-5 thousand soldiers near the border with Turkey will not last long during the attack, the Turkish army will quickly crush them. so at least the girls will please the eye, the Russian girls, what really lurk, will be more beautiful than our Armenian women.
          1. midivan
            midivan 26 July 2017 18: 56
            +5
            Quote: morm
            .And what if you replace male soldiers specifically in Gyumri with women? Women are stress-resistant and they won’t take a machine gun and shoot a family. Women will not kill each other with such frenzy

            Quote: morm
            And finally, none of the Armenians will climb to kill a female soldier in the city.

            Quote: morm
            And even though girls will please the eye, Russian girls, why lurk, will be more beautiful than our Armenians.

            laughing Ahhh, how tricky, now - You! ----------------------------- We and the eyes themselves twitch without them, but you do not be discouraged and you have beautiful ones, I had I can’t describe my acquaintance kraaasivaaya, as I recall, even ten years later, brings my legs wink
          2. AVGUST
            AVGUST 27 July 2017 07: 33
            +1
            Oh, and you are disingenuous, sir, tell me, do you want to feel the Russian girl’s body? .......
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 26 July 2017 18: 31
          +6
          Do you have enough of your own people in Armenia? We ourselves need our women here. And it’s better to serve in Gyumri, as always, men. Ish what the "most cunning" Armenian.
        3. tracer
          tracer 26 July 2017 18: 37
          0
          Onti generally will not shoot at opponents. They will feed you a drink and put to sleep with you.
        4. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 26 July 2017 22: 19
          +1
          Don't talk about frenzy of women.
        5. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 27 July 2017 00: 41
          0
          Quote: morm
          But what about replacing male soldiers specifically in Gyumri with women? Women are stress-resistant and they won’t take a machine gun and shoot a family. Women will not kill each other with such frenzy


          Indeed, here are the Russian villains, yes. "Send heifers to us!" , so what? This is a dumb Babayan kooky characterizing the level of intellectual development of colleagues in Eurasia. Ek, you begin to curl there in circles around the base, the miniserables are loving.
          Rejoice that you weren’t cut by neighbors there, thanks to the Russians. It’s good to smack nonsense and think with your head.
      5. 210ox
        210ox 26 July 2017 16: 24
        +1
        They don’t plant for such a period .. But let’s take the spring call in our area ..40 people were called up according to the plan. They didn’t shy away and ran around their grandmothers .. Now, not all young men who want it will be taken for an urgency ..
        Quote: Zibelew
        Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone. Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse of days on 30 for delirium.
        1. tamnun
          tamnun 26 July 2017 18: 39
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone.

          In Israel, women's service is in no way connected with the type of lack of resources (human).
          There are enough people, and even more than enough.
          Further, women serve in combat units, including mixed battalions.
          1. DOCTOR ZLO
            DOCTOR ZLO 26 July 2017 23: 26
            +3
            Quote: tamnun
            Quote: 210ox
            Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone.

            In Israel women's service is in no way related to the type of lack of resources (human).
            There are enough people, and even more than enough.

            Don’t drive us ....
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 26 July 2017 23: 50
            +2
            Quote: tamnun
            In Israel, women's service is in no way connected with the type of lack of resources (human).

            Here everything is much simpler the fact is that the male population of Israel prefers to fight in security - at home they have a computer keyboard and they substitute women on the line of fire (remember the recent murder of a female soldier in Jerusalem), again, Orthodox men of whom ten percent of the total population in Israel are not want to go to the army preferring to her prison
            With Torah ... better in prison than in the army?
      6. papas-57
        papas-57 26 July 2017 17: 23
        +5
        `` Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse for 30 days for delirium. '' And better to the barracks for two years. Too `` smart '' fathers in the army are very fond of.
      7. free
        free 26 July 2017 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: Zibelew
        Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone. Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse of days on 30 for delirium.


        Well, why are you so harsh. For the time being and business
        1. DOCTOR ZLO
          DOCTOR ZLO 27 July 2017 01: 05
          +1
          Quote: free
          Quote: Zibelew
          Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone. Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse of days on 30 for delirium.

          Well, why are you so harsh. For the time being and business

          Here is your daughter and send for urgent payment ...
          1. free
            free 28 July 2017 08: 43
            0
            Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
            Quote: free
            Quote: Zibelew
            Nonsense is all this ... Even Israel, although it has gone to the urgent appeal of women because of the catastrophic lack of human resources, is still not allowed into the combat zone. Send Moskalkov to the guardhouse of days on 30 for delirium.

            Well, why are you so harsh. For the time being and business

            Here is your daughter and send for urgent payment ...


            Why are you so rude uncle? You probably barely figured it out?
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      8. Alf
        Alf 26 July 2017 19: 43
        +2
        Quote: Zibelew
        send Moskalkov to the guardhouse for 30 days for delirium.

        She’s just sent to the barracks for a year, maybe wiser.
        But, in general, this is just a reminder of your need. Otherwise, they will kick out, to whom then I, so smart, beautiful, will be needed. I want to eat, not to go to the factory to work.
        1. hohkn
          hohkn 27 July 2017 12: 57
          +2
          Quote: Alf
          She’s just sent to the barracks for a year, maybe wiser.

          I won’t drink so much ...
      9. metanik
        metanik 26 July 2017 22: 02
        +1
        +100500 - exactly there, and the term is for a year. Let it slurp as it should
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 26 July 2017 15: 42
      0
      Judging by the chronic shortage, yes.
      1. DOCTOR ZLO
        DOCTOR ZLO 27 July 2017 19: 46
        +1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Judging by the chronic shortage, yes.

        Can I have a closer look at chronic shortages?
    3. Belarusian
      Belarusian 26 July 2017 15: 51
      +2
      Apparently no one ...
      Most, regrettably, are “fighting” in divan troops. And someone even on a contract basis.
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 July 2017 15: 57
      +11
      Quote: vch
      Well, the girls in the barracks at the time were not enough!

      From my own experience ... was not enough ... feel
      1. midivan
        midivan 26 July 2017 19: 04
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: vch
        Well, the girls in the barracks at the time were not enough!

        From my own experience ... was not enough ... feel

        I completely agree with you, oh how it was not enough and the bromine did not help, you are in the ranks at attention and he keeps his head at a height laughing Well, the birth rate would have caught up, because it is such a time, youth, ehhh where are my eighteen .......... crying wassat
    5. Finches
      Finches 26 July 2017 16: 01
      +11
      And also gays, transgender people, etc., many sufferers in Russia serve ... laughing
      Changing tables are already in submarines in Europe ... To all my love for women, by God their place, in the kitchen ...!
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 26 July 2017 16: 02
      +6
      And what is her position in Russian called? Or is it not being translated? belay If so, then why do our authorities themselves push the Russian language out of the Russian Federation?
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 26 July 2017 16: 28
        +10
        Moskalkova Tatyana Nikolaevna - Russian politician, Honored Lawyer of the Russian Federation, State Duma deputy of the fifth and sixth convocations. Since 2016, he has been working as the Commissioner for Human Rights. He is a member of A Just Russia, a doctor of philosophical and legal sciences.
        well, type authorized
        1. Mystery12345
          Mystery12345 26 July 2017 17: 27
          +4
          how ... how did such characters get "epaulettes"? ... because the "near" aunt ... you can’t give such a voice.
          1. pjastolov
            pjastolov 26 July 2017 18: 24
            +5
            you can’t cast such a voice.
            You can submit, but not a voice, but in a eatery hi
    7. Juborg
      Juborg 26 July 2017 17: 37
      +5
      Will she send pregnant women to attack or to an obstacle course? It is necessary to persecute such an ambassador and continue to keep the broom or counter away. The brain is like a fish.
      1. midivan
        midivan 26 July 2017 19: 10
        +2
        Quote: juborg
        Will she send pregnant women to attack or to an obstacle course?

        To classes for pregnant women, well, there are all kinds of exercises, and if it’s not possible to increase the birth rate, we can still try for the sake of experiment, look and you won’t see mothers with beer, let them hang on the horizontal bar, whatever order there laughing
    8. YakimovSS
      YakimovSS 26 July 2017 17: 51
      +2
      Yes, at the time of the term in the barracks, many were missing!
    9. arane
      arane 26 July 2017 17: 52
      +5
      Quote: vch
      Well, the girls in the barracks at the time were not enough! Do we have no one else to defend our homeland?

      Is she, doo? Let him read the primary sources. Urgent service is not a right, but an obligation. And if the girl wants, then for God's sake, under a contract with 18 years.
    10. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 26 July 2017 23: 08
      0
      Fragment from the "Hussar Ballad" (Kutuzov, Shurochka and Balmashov)
    11. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 00: 41
      0
      Quote: vch
      Do we have no one else to defend our homeland?

      quite right
      already have questions, and before
      and since 2019 it's generally tight
      and therefore offers
      while you’ll propose, while the law of the State Duma will be adopted, while in the Moscow Region they will figure out how to act in revenge
      just the time
    12. askme
      askme 27 July 2017 16: 00
      0
      Today's girls are emancipated. From a psychological point of view, they are not weaker than guys in most cases. And the emphasis on this topic, in my opinion, should not be done on military service, but ON THE SERVICE AT ALL. If a girl gave birth at the age of 18-19 (and girls can be called up at the age of 20, say), she serves her children and husband. No service should concern it. But if she’s still a kid (they’re a lot of kiddies now) - let her choose: go to alternative services in hospitals, nursing homes for a year, getting used to her role as a woman, or go to the troops if she is an athlete, for example. Is it bad? Not! Before the service should be all equal. Service is non-sexual. But what kind of service - here women should be given a choice of a very serious list of options. The main problem at this age in both sexes is infantilism. And service is a great way to make a morally mature person out of a dairy egoist. This applies equally to boys and girls.

      Too many girls now with their brains clogged with any selfish foolishness run up to 30 years or more, many are childless because of this. So the service can get a great educational effect. Positive!

      And in peacetime to send girls in peacetime is darkness. Although it is good to train sports girls in military professions if desired, such an opportunity should be provided. In the event of a large-scale war, the difference between men and women disappears. In fact...
  2. Progressor
    Progressor 26 July 2017 15: 43
    +1
    What for?
    By contract, for God's sake, and so?
    1. Logall
      Logall 26 July 2017 15: 44
      +18
      Quote: Progressor
      What for?
      By contract, for God's sake, and so?

      A soldier to please ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 July 2017 15: 46
        +8
        The mess will be, and not the army, very carefully with this issue.
        1. pjastolov
          pjastolov 26 July 2017 15: 58
          +7
          and her army is interested? recourse
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 26 July 2017 16: 08
            +10
            Human Rights is a fetish for liberoids. There are citizen and individual rights.
            1. pjastolov
              pjastolov 26 July 2017 16: 10
              +5
              PR, however laughing
          2. KUOLEMA
            KUOLEMA 26 July 2017 16: 19
            +5
            Yeah, aunts stomps doesn’t look like a soldier Jane herself
          3. cedar
            cedar 26 July 2017 16: 30
            +6
            For a start, Moskalkova would not be reminded of the fact that a person is made by Man not by the rights that he shakes, but by the duties that he performs.
            1. pjastolov
              pjastolov 26 July 2017 16: 33
              +5
              it
              Honored Lawyer of the Russian Federation
              hi
            2. tracer
              tracer 26 July 2017 18: 39
              +1
              Yes, and gender affects.
        2. Logall
          Logall 26 July 2017 16: 06
          +20
          In order not to seduce the soldiers, piderasts and such evil spirits were banned from military service. And here...
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 26 July 2017 17: 11
            +14
            Hi Sasha. A strange opinion and not entirely clear, to be honest. So I imagined how the girls were sent for an urgent term, and near the military registration and enlistment office their guys wiped snot with each other with tears ... crying
  3. HEATHER
    HEATHER 26 July 2017 15: 47
    +6
    Is she out of her mind? On an "urgent" girl? If only a separate and completely isolated part, such as the "Institute of Noble Maidens." Who appointed her to this post? For experience, she herself will be in the barracks. Brains will recover. Damn. I want to swear! am
  4. Belarusian
    Belarusian 26 July 2017 15: 50
    +4
    Yes, and also the Russian brothers are joking over the women ministers of defense!
    Your "women", I see, are also not far behind - they rushed into the affairs of defense (or offensive) on all fronts!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 26 July 2017 21: 36
      +3
      Quote: Belarus
      in the affairs of defense (or offensive) on all fronts rushed!

      Well, this is a misunderstanding. Typical babbie chatter. My aunt stupidly saw NTV with the “sea devils” (that's where the nonsense is!), And, perhaps, she receives some letters from the exalted (knocked out) fans of the “military style”. Although, a positive moment is evident: immediately "monitoring" of public opinion is ready, at least within the framework of the VO audience. yes And more:
      Quote: Belarus
      Most, regrettably, are “fighting” in divan troops.

      You see, my dear man .... Most of the VO audience have served their own and make up a mobile reserve, some still serve, there are military pensioners, there are very few “uninvited” ones, and they don’t stay here. After all, you will not insist that the Russian army become a symbiosis of Volkssturm and disabled teams ... But you can be sure that if something happens ... in a word, it will not rust. hi
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 00: 44
        0
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Well, this is a misunderstanding. Typical babbie chatter.

        This is not some kind of "typical babp chatter", but state policy.
        Do not confuse warm with soft.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 July 2017 01: 08
          +2
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          and state policy.

          belay laughing In this case - chatter, which at the office. language is called "initiative." Auntie has long "made her way" on this topic, and her wave carries to this day. Well, we have such a little party, "CP." Only, as it were softer .... she does not determine the state policy. And yet - the lady, as if by chance, did not specify the number of letters with such requests. Two? Three? Ten? Well, that’s it, trifle. And, in addition to jokes, she would, for starters, go to orphanages and boarding schools - there she will be provided with "employment in the specialty," so much so that at once different thoughts will be hurt. Something like this . By the way, didn’t you offer anything like this in Belarus? Or is the army costing uncles? hi
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 01: 24
            +1
            Quote: Paranoid50
            In this case - chatter, which at the office. language is called "initiative."

            Нет!
            This is government policy. As well as an increase in the draft age from 27 to 30 years.

            Quote: Paranoid50
            By the way, didn’t you offer anything like this in Belarus? Or is the army costing uncles?

            As in the days of the USSR, they serve in certain positions under a contract.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 27 July 2017 01: 28
              +1
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              As well as an increase in the draft age from 27 to 30 years.

              That’s right - this is the state. topic. And the aunt, I repeat, “writes and composes” herself.
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 01: 35
                0
                Quote: Paranoid50
                And the aunt, I repeat, "writes and reduces" herself.

                she writes not only herself
                both sexes are taken to Yunarmia
                it will be the same for military service
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 27 July 2017 01: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: prosto_rgb
                  both sexes are taken to Yunarmia

                  So it was in the USSR.
                  Quote: prosto_rgb
                  the same will be for military service

                  Do not torment your heart with future trouble
                  Do not overtake the bitterness of the past
                  And don't build in the sand, live today
                  Or life was wasted by you

                  Omar Khayyam
                  hi
                  1. prosto_rgb
                    prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 01: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Paranoid50
                    Do not torment your heart with future trouble
                    Do not overtake the bitterness of the past
                    And don't build in the sand, live today
                    Or life was wasted by you
                    Omar Khayyam

                    thank you
    2. AVGUST
      AVGUST 27 July 2017 07: 44
      0
      These creatures are trying to discredit us, so we will "treat" them like a runny nose ........, it’s very bad that you can’t put a scarf on each mouth
  5. mac789
    mac789 26 July 2017 15: 50
    +6
    If the girls served, we wouldn’t be in a hurry to demobilize ...
    But seriously. Is anyone ready to put their daughters at the disposal of not very sane commanders? By the call? After all, as it was, whoever served in the army does not laugh at the circus. I think little has changed.
    1. Logall
      Logall 26 July 2017 16: 08
      +18
      Quote: mac789
      I think little has changed.

      Here, even bromine will not help ...
  6. Baloo
    Baloo 26 July 2017 15: 52
    +6
    I don’t know, I don’t know ... But you need to pay close attention not only to intelligence, but also to physical training so that your health does not fail in difficult times.
    By chance on YouTube I watched as Chinese women and our girls walked in the parade. Alas, the Chinese women walked more clearly, and ours somehow a little slack, less collected. And things are not in the drill, namely, physical training, the ability to control the body. The Chinese have an element of national culture-W-shu. By the way, I recommend for any age, on YouTube is full of these complexes. Learn to breathe correctly, and joints with the spine will become more flexible and someone’s pressure will equalize. I won’t clog up the air, but the Moscow Region needs to think about a physical culture channel for those who cannot reach the gym. Not entertaining, but a lesson with an instructor. Only instructors need to remember that you need to rely on the viewer with minimal training. And remove yoga from TV. Yoga requires preparation from childhood! Around the world, people die every year from a stroke or become disabled by overestimating their capabilities with a fool and beginning to abruptly engage in yoga. Wushu can be practiced even in 80 years.
    Well, yes, distracted. Women can serve urgent and contractual, but there must be a strict selection according to physical parameters and psychological tests. The enemy in battle will not forgive weaknesses. hi
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 26 July 2017 16: 20
      +4
      what about rape?
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 July 2017 15: 52
    +5
    Men are deprived of the right to give birth. She will soon attend to justice here.
    Ahhh what’s the matter. She's blonde.
  8. Flinky
    Flinky 26 July 2017 15: 58
    +4
    Female hazing - it will be much tougher than usual.
    1. Progressor
      Progressor 26 July 2017 16: 11
      +1
      Does this happen?
      1. Flinky
        Flinky 26 July 2017 23: 18
        +3
        And how. In any women’s team there is such a thing.
      2. AVGUST
        AVGUST 27 July 2017 07: 51
        0
        Believe me - it happens, especially in women's zones, worse than "black" zones will be ......
  9. anjey
    anjey 26 July 2017 16: 00
    +3
    Also, according to Moskalkova, it is necessary to take more effective measures to support the widows of servicemen killed in the line of duty.
    yeah, we’ll recruit female battalions and into a meat grinder, and in Russia we’ll undermine the demographic and widowers, through the emancipation of pret ...
    1. anjey
      anjey 26 July 2017 16: 53
      +1
      good salaries and social programs and a woman is ready to climb the hell knows where ....
  10. Sofa warrior
    Sofa warrior 26 July 2017 16: 04
    +7
    I hope the urgency will be canceled altogether as an obligation. If you want to serve - serve, do not want to - do not serve, anyway, from the boys driven out of the stick, the sense is close to zero.
    1. l7yzo
      l7yzo 26 July 2017 16: 16
      +1
      So they did it without serving in the army — you won’t get anywhere in the civil service, and that’s all - the people flooded. And for 10 years - the right of the hut. And Ipateka in civilian life is 20 years old, and she has to be paid. And here they will dress and feed you.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 27 July 2017 01: 02
      0
      Quote: Sofa Warrior
      I hope the urgency will be canceled altogether as an obligation.

      will not be canceled
  11. trophy
    trophy 26 July 2017 16: 09
    +4
    She has nothing to do, a female dog is having fun. So to speak, it depicts a stormy, boiling activity.
  12. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 26 July 2017 16: 13
    +4
    And after 9 months, the legal concept of "son of a regiment" will appear ...
  13. Blue fox
    Blue fox 26 July 2017 16: 14
    +2
    Something that most closely resembles the PR a la “Jane Soldier” movie, only in reality the ending will be different.
  14. l7yzo
    l7yzo 26 July 2017 16: 14
    +3
    I suggest she go to serve. And then something in her merit - only work in the "pardon." Interesting - how can she shoot and hit in the face ???
  15. JonnyT
    JonnyT 26 July 2017 16: 18
    +2
    A woman raves, oh and raves.
    Nobody closed the way to women in the army - if you wanted to go study in specialized educational institutions ....
    This crazy woman just wants a mess in the army more and in social tension on a civilian. From these initiatives carries feminism and wrecking for a mile away
    1. alstr
      alstr 26 July 2017 16: 47
      +3
      I will say even more than that, I don’t know how now, but earlier:
      1. All doctors (most women) had a military ID, rank and were periodically called up for training. I have a mother (she has a military ticket - a nurse. The last time I was at a training camp somewhere in the late 90s, although I did not even work as a nurse)
      2. In schools, there were many female civilian employees who also had titles
      3. In military camps, too (especially in the hungry 90s) the wives of officers often replaced positions, including military ones (for example, S-300 operators)
      4. Moreover, if the girl wanted, then she could enter the military department and undergo training there (this also began in the 90s). True no fees.

      And now almost every school has a platoon or more girls.
      So there are many opportunities for girls to become military.

      But urgent in our conditions is contraindicated for girls. In principle, that is enough, because in the army, girls do not need substitute soldier positions from the word at all. But trained specialists for units that do not directly conduct combat operations (communications, rear services, etc.) plus air defense troops, there are quite women there
  16. Dark_Filin
    Dark_Filin 26 July 2017 16: 19
    +2
    I don’t understand why the hell is that, actually. They are taken to a contract, but in reality, units, I think, will go to serve. And what kind of inequality is this - to the women for an urgent term, and to the boys - obligatory?
  17. svp67
    svp67 26 July 2017 16: 22
    +5
    The girls are deprived of the right to serve in the Armed Forces of Russia, the statement of the Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation Tatyana Moskalkova reports to the RAPS.
    And what is the infringement then? Well, let's allow the guys to give birth .... After all, not weakly, just what is the point? If they want to serve girls, please come to the draft board, for contract service.
  18. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 July 2017 16: 23
    +3
    ..so they will have the right to choose for themselves whether to serve on conscription or not. .
    Rights, rights, and how much money should be left to create normal conditions for their service?
  19. Sofa warrior
    Sofa warrior 26 July 2017 16: 25
    +2
    Quote: l7yzo
    So they did it without serving in the army — you won’t get anywhere in the civil service, and that’s all - the people flooded. And for 10 years - the right of the hut. And Ipateka in civilian life is 20 years old, and she has to be paid. And here they will dress and feed you.

    I don’t care, I’ll survive without a civil service. I’ll work in some Sberbank or other similar office. I don’t need to feed and dress me, and I don’t need a hut in this order. Let them give themselves the opportunity to earn money and not run from the military commissar - and everything will immediately fall into place, and feed myself, and get dressed and put on shoes. In addition, why take a mortgage when you can rent a room with a girl for two and quietly earn money for an apartment in a small town in five to seven years. Unless of course there is nowhere to live really. There will be no bribes to doctors and military commissars, there will be no regiment of lazy slopes at universities who are reading on commerce barely and much more is not good.

    Give the guys a choice - and everything will fall into place. Moreover, it is much cheaper than running after conscripts and shaking hands with bribe takers who profit from slopes.
    1. tracer
      tracer 26 July 2017 18: 46
      0
      My son is 16 and he seriously thinks that at 21 he will be at least a millionaire. Makes plans for upcoming travels around the world. Only sometimes I spoil his mood by the fact that, apparently, with such "successes" around the world, he will travel in rags between yards. And you, too, look at the mortgage loan for 7 years already paid and work in the Savings Bank .... Well, well ..
      1. Sofa warrior
        Sofa warrior 26 July 2017 19: 19
        +1
        Quote: tracer
        My son is 16 and he seriously thinks that at 21 he will be at least a millionaire. Makes plans for upcoming travels around the world. Only sometimes I spoil his mood by the fact that, apparently, with such "successes" around the world, he will travel in rags between yards. And you, too, look at the mortgage loan for 7 years already paid and work in the Savings Bank .... Well, well ..

        Yes, your dreamer’s son is simply ill. I will reveal a terrible secret in order to buy an apartment OPTIONAL to take a loan. You can open a deposit and save by saving money for a deposit in the same bank, where the fools will take the same money at a predatory interest. Immediately after the loan for the wedding, yeah. If you don’t flaunt, live within your means, don’t buy iPhones and fur coats, it’s real for 5-7 years to really buy an apartment or build a house. It’s clear that it’s not in the metropolis, but in a small city this is not a super task, especially for two.

        Sberbank is named for an example. And working in a bank is not necessarily working as a manager, I think a person with a tower will be calmly taken to the position of operator or consultant of the hall. It can be anything at all. Open Avito or a similar site, full of offers with a salary of 15 thousand, without any special requirements.

        In short, first read the posts carefully and then Nunukai. And then people over the years think that they are smart a priori and do not listen to the interlocutor.
        1. mac789
          mac789 29 July 2017 21: 14
          0
          You can open a deposit ... And save ... The money that is in the bank is the money of the bank, and if the bank has the slightest loophole you can’t give it back, it won’t give it back to you. As Medveput said: "You are tormented by the courts to swallow dust ..."
  20. cedar
    cedar 26 July 2017 16: 39
    +3
    “... According to the Ombudsman, her (in his?) Address“ regularly receives messages from female representatives who want to serve, learn military professions, become pilots. ”She (he?) Called (urged) to change the situation in this sphere, since it’s “wrong” to infringe on the desire of Russians ... "

    The story of how a trap sets our brains or a madhouse on the road ...
  21. LUCKY777
    LUCKY777 26 July 2017 16: 42
    +3
    “Regular messages come from female representatives who wish to serve, learn military professions, and become pilots”
    Nihai fly, only at the entrance exams to oblige with one hand the need to cope here in such a little thing, and whatever a drop by! winked
  22. yuriy55
    yuriy55 26 July 2017 16: 46
    +1
    The girls are deprived of the right to serve in the Armed Forces of Russia, the statement of the Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation Tatyana Moskalkova reports to the RAPS.

    In the right to do military service? In whose capacity? If as a soldier, then you are welcome ... And if as a "free application" ... Let them live in marriage and give birth from legal husbands ...
  23. Coma_64
    Coma_64 26 July 2017 16: 52
    +2
    She has nothing to do with militia, but she doesn’t even know which side they are entering the regional department. Another general, the clowning is continuous.
  24. 3officer
    3officer 26 July 2017 16: 53
    +4
    At a time when crowds of guys in Dagestan can’t get into the Army (even bribes are being sent to the commissariat belay ) Ms. Moskalkova fools around. In the country, the birth rate isn’t so bad, but she is with the next deputy adventure. Truly a parasite. In the past, Yarovaya "drove" in spring and autumn, now she drew one more.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 July 2017 17: 48
      +2
      Quote: 3officer
      Previously, Spring "drove"

      she drives
  25. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 26 July 2017 16: 57
    +2
    The initiator of this nonsense - come on - forward, and only after comprehensive testing of the legislative initiative - for consideration in the State Duma and the Federation Council.
  26. Lowbrow
    Lowbrow 26 July 2017 17: 38
    +2
    deprived of the right? charge! and everything will be arch-correct - equal rights, equal duties! good
    in truth, "babidury" is written together fool
  27. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 July 2017 17: 47
    +2
    Maybe not everyone will support me, but I think that our girls are deprived of the right to serve in military service as a soldier

    not only not support, but also twist a finger at the temple
  28. Kolaaps
    Kolaaps 26 July 2017 17: 52
    +2
    ...I am for!!! In a strong case !!! In autonomy! ... There are salted fish and rams in bulk .... Well, gynecological masters are in every compartment (bitter, bitter experience ...)
  29. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 July 2017 17: 55
    +6
    How they got their rights. Well, under totalitarianism, women are obliged to give birth, men to defend their homeland.
  30. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 26 July 2017 17: 56
    +2
    The elections are coming, hence this nonsense.
  31. komradbuh
    komradbuh 26 July 2017 18: 08
    +3
    All these "obutsmeny" send to Siberia. Let there protect the rights of people
    1. LPD17
      LPD17 26 July 2017 21: 02
      +2
      Who signs the decree on their appointment ?!
      questions to him began to be ....
      and teams with themes of care and protection, from him
  32. rus-5819
    rus-5819 26 July 2017 18: 15
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    The Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation, Tatyana Moskalkova, is a lawyer by her basic evening education, well, + some kind of sad candidate for her philosophy.
    And what is normal in terms of conscripting girls for military service, Moskalyov can offer without ever being on the front line while serving in the police?
    She is not even a practicing doctor - GYNECOLOGIST - as the Minister of Defense of modern Germany!
    In this matter, she is simply an underdeveloped career-mercantile pro-Western limited FEMINIST!

    Greetings, Tatyana!
    As it appears. Moskalkova watched "Soldier Jane." But on herself, she clearly tried on the role of a senator, rather than soldiers.
    In general, as one cinematic hero Galkin used to say: “Women aspire to the army because there are peasants prominent and in large numbers” to / f “Reciprocal move”
    Apparently Moskalkova so solves the demographic problem in Russia !!!
  33. Doliva63
    Doliva63 26 July 2017 18: 15
    +10
    A year ago, in the 88th acquaintance of the Commissar of the Ministry of Social Development (innovator, damn it, he and I were sitting at the same table in the share canteen), I decided to get a girl-medical assistant in the company. He was discouraged, as everyone could - both his bosses and friends. But - he had the right. And started it. A week later, the company turned into a booth.
    He did not appear in public for a long time later - the house, the barracks, the training ground, the house. It was a shame.
    A woman has the right / obligation to be a wife and give birth to healthy offspring. The rest is to Europe. Dot.
  34. tracer
    tracer 26 July 2017 18: 22
    +2
    One more confirmation that women need to be occupied with the business that is intended for them. And then bad thoughts start. Who wants to become a flyer there? Let them learn how to drive first !!! She is destined to be a raider, and certainly not a pilot. They picked up the women in the landing school .. Our "father" in the coffin is probably turning over from anger. Even in the forces of special forces let them recruit. For special services. Our women all want to “AS with them.” They just forget that “they” do not care about people from a high tower, no matter how many women or men they put, there is no difference. HERE WE HAVE AND WILL BE. BABAM GIVES NECESSARY AND PATIENTS WITH WOUNDED WALK OUT. THIS IS THEIR WAR AND CONTRIBUTION TO VICTORY. AND YOU FORGET ABOUT THE WOMEN OF SNIPERS WHO WHO SERIOUSLY SPEAKS ABOUT THIS, THAT AT ALL DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC. And, consequently, "loshara" in the head and actions. The Russian army stood and will stand on the honor and training of the officer corps, on the courage and resourcefulness of the Russian soldier. And certainly not at the "Indian sundresses".
    1. skylare
      skylare 26 July 2017 19: 52
      +2
      Who wants to become a flyer there? Let them learn how to drive first !!! She is destined to be a raider, and certainly not a pilot.

      Lilia Litvyak, Ekaterina Budanova, Natalya Meklin and many others, clearly, would not understand you.
      1. ultra
        ultra 26 July 2017 23: 19
        +1
        It was a war, and they did not do military service.
        1. skylare
          skylare 27 July 2017 02: 21
          +2
          Nevertheless, these examples convincingly show that the ability to fight, as well as master a certain military specialty depends primarily on a particular person, and not on what gender he belongs to.
      2. cedar
        cedar 27 July 2017 05: 54
        +4
        Lilia Litvyak, Ekaterina Budanova, Natalya Meklin and many others, clearly, would not understand you.

        Honor to them, Glory and Eternal memory of grateful descendants. But this was not the norm, and as soon as the war ended, the women's aviation units disbanded.
        The main task of a woman in war is to be a strong rear, in all respects, for her warriors: sons, husbands, fathers.

        OPEN LETTER
        To a woman from Vichuga


        I have to inform you,
        What did not reach the addressee
        The letter that the box is omitted
        You were not ashamed once.

        Your husband did not receive a letter,
        He was not wounded by a vulgar word,
        He did not flinch, he did not go insane,
        Do not curse everything that was in the past.

        When he raised fighters
        In the attack at the ruins of the station,
        Dumb rudeness of your words
        He, fortunately, did not torment.

        When he walked hard,
        Drawing a bloody rag wound,
        The letter from you still went on,
        Still, fortunately, it was early.

        When he fell on the stones
        And death cut off the breath,
        He still did not receive,
        Fortunately, your message.

        I can inform you that,
        That, wrapped in a raincoat,
        We are at night in the public garden
        He was buried after the fight.

        There is a star out of tin there
        And next to the poplar - for signs ...
        But however, I forgot that you,
        Probably, it does not matter.

        A letter was brought to us in the morning ...
        He, after the death of the addressee,
        Between ourselves we read aloud -
        Forgive us, soldiers.

        Perhaps, the memory is short
        You. By the common desire,
        On behalf of the whole regiment
        I will remind you of the contents.

        You wrote that for a year,
        How do you know the new husband.
        And the old one, if he comes,
        You will still be unnecessary.

        That you do not know the trouble,
        Live well. And by the way,
        Now you need no more
        Not in the lieutenant's certificate.

        To the letter he did not expect from you
        And you would not bother again ...
        That's it: "did not bother" ...
        You searched the words better.

        And that's all. And nothing more.
        We listed them patiently,
        All those words that are for him
        You have found the hour in your soul.

        "Do not bother." "Husband". "Certificate"...
        But where did you lose your soul?
        He was a soldier, a soldier!
        After all, we died for you with him.

        I do not want to be a judge,
        Not all partakes win,
        Not everyone is able to love a century, -
        Unfortunately, everything happens in life.

        Well, let's not love,
        Let it be no longer necessary to you,
        Let live you will be with another,
        God be with him, there with the husband, not with the husband.

        But after all the soldier is not guilty
        In the fact that he does not know leave,
        That the third year in a row,
        Protecting you annoying.

        Well, you could not write
        Let bitter words, but noble.
        They didn’t find them in their soul -
        So would take anywhere.

        In our homeland, fortunately, there is
        Many women's souls are high,

        They would honor you -
        You wrote these lines;

        They would have found words for you,
        To ease the anguish of others.
        From us they bow down to the earth,
        Bowing for their souls is great.


        Not to you, but to other women,
        From us, isolated war,

        We want to write about you,
        Let them know - you are to blame

        That their husbands are at the front, here,
        Sometimes in the soul struggling with himself,
        With involuntary anxiety await
        From the house of letters before the fight.


        We did not read your good,
        Now we are secretly tormented by bitterness:
        But what if you were the only one who could,
        Suddenly, someone else will receive?


        At the judgment of their distant wives
        We'll send you. You slandered
        On them. You doubt them
        We were given a reason for a moment.


        Let them put you at fault,
        What a bird you hid,
        What kind of woman, wife are you,
        They've given themselves away so long.


        And your ex-husband - he is killed.
        All is well. Live with the new.
        The dead man will not offend you
        The letter has long been an unnecessary word.

        Live without fear of guilt,
        He will not write, he will not answer
        And, back to the city from the war,
        With the other you do not meet with your arm.


        Only one thing to forgive
        You will have to have it - because
        Probably, with a month to bring
        You will also receive mail letters.

        Nothing to do here -
        The letter is slower than the bullet.
        To you letters in September will come,
        And he was killed in July.

        About you there is every line,
        This is true, unpleasant to you -
        So I'm on behalf of the regiment
        I take his words back.

        Accept at the end of us
        Our contempt is goodbye.
        Those who do not respect you
        The late fellow soldiers.


        On behalf of the officers of the regiment
        K. Simonov
        November 1943, XNUMX

        We see at the root of the greatest role of Woman, Mother, Motherland, Russia, which makes the army UNBEATABLE or losing even before any war.
        1. AVGUST
          AVGUST 27 July 2017 08: 50
          0
          Well done, keep it up to even quote such verses - you need to know them at least .....
  35. Kolaaps
    Kolaaps 26 July 2017 18: 32
    +1
    .... N-yes ... the Führer did not think of this .... And lost
  36. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 July 2017 18: 45
    +2
    Actually, in our tradition: a man is a defender, a woman is the shore of a house.
    Well, let's sew her eggs. And who will need it?
  37. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 26 July 2017 19: 31
    +1
    begins
  38. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 July 2017 19: 37
    +5
    Another stoned feminist ... Do we have at least one sane person in GDyuchnik? And then looking at the laws there is a striking association with the meeting of patients of the ward №6
  39. kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 26 July 2017 19: 45
    0
    Great idea! It is immediately obvious that a person is busy with business, thinking of how to strengthen the country's defense capabilities and achieve greater equality between the sexes. These proposals must be implemented! And this woman - a prize in a triple salary and an order with a spin on her back.
  40. razved
    razved 26 July 2017 19: 49
    +1
    She accidentally didn’t miss the contract term there? It seems that, having assumed office, she caught the virus of Bredism ...
  41. Vetal999
    Vetal999 26 July 2017 19: 50
    +1
    Men are not ready to see female corpses on the battlefield. War is not a female affair, albeit a burden.
  42. james
    james 26 July 2017 20: 38
    +1
    I was always worried about the question: “How do such ladies come to power, who needs them and who promotes them?”
    1. pjastolov
      pjastolov 26 July 2017 22: 19
      +3
      who needs them and who promotes them? "
      who uses hi
  43. LPD17
    LPD17 26 July 2017 21: 00
    +2
    Fell wet soaked people are not interested in salaries below the subsistence minimum and minimum wage ???
    dropped wet
    pah muck
  44. chenia
    chenia 26 July 2017 21: 30
    +4
    Nehru women do in the Army. Definitely. I would have so raised the level of standards for FIZO so that not every man would crawl through.
    Although, in the units of rear and combat support, and then from the division and above (and the fact that the men would be driven into combat units).
  45. Disorder
    Disorder 26 July 2017 21: 32
    +1
    Maybe not everyone will support me, but I believe that the girls we have infringed the right to serve as military service as a soldier,

    This is not a right - this is an obligation.
    According to the Ombudsman, “she regularly receives messages from female representatives who want to serve, learn military professions, and become pilots.”

    And where did she see conscript pilots?
    Du.ra du.roy. And they write her the same du.ry.
    And normal girls
  46. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 26 July 2017 22: 18
    0
    what is the right - ombudsman or ombudsomen? and girls in the barracks must be sent to increase the birth rate!
  47. ultra
    ultra 26 July 2017 23: 18
    +1
    Moskalkova, there are more pressing problems than girls in the army!
  48. PVOSV
    PVOSV 27 July 2017 05: 58
    0
    Here they are - the Ombudsmen in all their glory, I don’t understand the issue - but I’m wringing out a wise guy.
    Pass this ebony winked to the ombudsman’s woman, that no one forbids women to serve under the contract, and this is more profitable than urgent.
  49. Shurale
    Shurale 27 July 2017 06: 08
    +1
    "not a bumbum in my head but a fool herself a fool" ...... (s)
    Here is a striking indicator of the expressions for which a person should be deprived of the opportunity to generally occupy any responsible positions, IMHO.
  50. AVGUST
    AVGUST 27 July 2017 06: 51
    0
    Quote: Black
    Quote: figvam
    м

    So the right to give birth will soon be given to peasants.

    In Europe they gave ... they are trying their best, but so far they can’t give birth wassat

    It’s just like in the old joke “Here you are, I’ve taken it - I’ve spoiled a frog” .....