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Gerashchenko told why negotiations in Minsk will depend

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The telephone conversation between the heads of state of the Normandy Four will largely predetermine the outcome of the negotiations, which will soon begin in Minsk, reports RIA News statement by the representative of Kiev in the humanitarian subgroup for Donbass, Irina Gerashchenko.

Gerashchenko told why negotiations in Minsk will depend


Yesterday, the Elysee Palace confirmed that a telephone conversation between the leaders of the Normandy format countries Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Vladimir Putin and Petro Poroshenko will take place on Monday at 12:00 Moscow time.

Tomorrow - the first telephone talks in the Normandy format for a long time, the first with the participation of the new French President Macron ... For Ukraine, the key issue is security and the release of hostages ... the rest, except humanitarian, groups) will largely depend on the results of the Normandy conference call,
wrote Gerashchenko on Facebook.

During the meetings in Minsk, since September 2014, the contact group has already adopted three documents regulating steps to de-escalate the conflict in Donbass, however, after the armistice agreements between the parties to the conflict, shootings continue. According to the UN, more than 10 thousand people have become victims of the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 23 July 2017 18: 58
    +6
    Now the horses will create a provocation and grease everything.
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 23 July 2017 19: 05
      +8
      Until the State Department implements the Minsk Agreements, nothing will change. In general, Minsk 2 will die together with the reliable return of the LPNR to Ukraine.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 23 July 2017 19: 11
        +4
        No, the State Department has nothing to do with it. Until the Kremlin decides to finally cover up this canoe, nothing good will happen.
        The solution to the problem is in Moscow
        Quote: Zibelew
        Until the State Department implements the Minsk Agreements, nothing will change.
        1. Zibelew
          Zibelew 23 July 2017 19: 17
          +2
          How exactly to cover? Send troops? Russia is already doing everything that is possible for the LPNR.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 23 July 2017 19: 29
            +3
            Firstly, to officially recognize that the Minsk Treaty is not realizable; secondly, to issue an ultimatum to Kiev regarding the shelling of the LPNR territory; Thirdly, to officially recognize the LPNR as a state. unfounded statements, but as they say there is no smoke without fire) Fourthly, if the shelling continues and, according to the request of the LPNR leadership, our troops are indeed brought into the territory as a guarantor of peace. here we did not treat him ..
            Quote: Zibelew
            How exactly to cover? Send troops? Russia is already doing everything that is possible for the LPNR.
            1. Zibelew
              Zibelew 23 July 2017 19: 38
              +3
              In 2014, our dill boilers were installed. The ukrovermacht was not stopped by the holy spirit. And the shootings since 2015 after Debaltseve are being pulled by volunteers with local corps. In particular, in 2014 near Luhansk, the dill wrote that a battalion of T90 was going against them, which they could not stop, and everyone was laughing. Although the stories were consistent, and no one wrote nonsense about the armata. And then photos and video of confirmation went. So ours are doing everything they can at the moment. We just don't know a lot and they'll tell us.
              1. Zibelew
                Zibelew 23 July 2017 19: 56
                +2
                The record is dated 26 of August 2014 of the year.
                1. Monos
                  Monos 23 July 2017 20: 45
                  +4
                  Quote: Zibelew
                  The record is dated 26 of August 2014 of the year.

                  Well, let's start with the fact that this is a T-80, not a T-90 ...
                  1. Zibelew
                    Zibelew 23 July 2017 20: 49
                    +1
                    Of course! Then this is Dozor-B, though it has already fought back.
                    1. Zibelew
                      Zibelew 23 July 2017 20: 51
                      +2
                      This is generally a Kharkov armored personnel carrier 4E
                  2. Monos
                    Monos 23 July 2017 20: 58
                    +4
                    Although ... Maybe I'm wrong ...
                    1. Zibelew
                      Zibelew 23 July 2017 21: 04
                      +1
                      You are right Victor hi ... This is a trophy Ukrainian T 80.
                      1. Monos
                        Monos 23 July 2017 21: 17
                        +4
                        Tagiryan, greetings hi
                        The T-80 has a different stern slope. But it seemed to me there the sound of a gas turbine engine. I only saw tanks at the parade .. feel
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 July 2017 19: 07
      +7
      Hi Victor! hi And now, and further, to every significant international event that touches at least the edge of Ukraine - there will be provocations from the pots, as it was before. They do not need peace in their country - so the owner ordered! am
      1. Monos
        Monos 23 July 2017 20: 15
        +6
        Pasha, hello! hi
        Yesterday, the Elysee Palace confirmed that a telephone conversation between the leaders of the Normandy format countries Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Vladimir Putin and Petro Poroshenko will take place on Monday at 12:00 Moscow time.

        GDP there is no one to talk to. Let Lexus and Vovan ask to talk to these freaks instead of himself.
        1. cniza
          cniza 23 July 2017 20: 22
          +2
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Hi Victor! hi :


          Hello Pasha! hi , here I am about the same, they need a sluggish conflict.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 23 July 2017 19: 07
      +8
      The telephone conversation between the heads of state of the Normandy Four will largely predetermine the outcome of the negotiations, which will soon begin in Minsk.

      And to the point of these negotiations, as from a goat of milk, the Minsk talk house has been going on for the third year, and for the fourth year, peaceful people continue to die. negative
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 23 July 2017 20: 09
        +9
        Quote: 79807420129
        And to the point of these negotiations, as from a goat of milk, the Minsk talk house has been going on for the third year, and for the fourth year, peaceful people continue to die.

        That's it. When a roof is leaking, it needs to be repaired, and not endlessly discussing the terms of repair.
        1. cniza
          cniza 23 July 2017 20: 32
          +3
          The repairmen went on strike, they want to increase their salaries or something else.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 23 July 2017 20: 37
            +8
            And haven't they stolen everything there yet? hi
    4. Logall
      Logall 23 July 2017 19: 10
      +19
      Their vice-shepherd says that the war in Donbass will end when they take Moscow.
      It will be faster to take Kiev ...
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 23 July 2017 19: 16
        +3
        Quote: Logall
        Their vice-shepherd says that the war in Donbass will end when they take Moscow.

        So never. what
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 23 July 2017 19: 34
          +9
          The war in Donbass may end on the orders of the United States, but it is foolish to hope for that. So just take Kiev. hi
          1. Logall
            Logall 23 July 2017 20: 45
            +16
            I'm all thinking about arrest in absentia.
            I wrote that it was necessary to steal the `` pepper '' with the help of the special services.
            It is necessary to implement, and then arrest Poroshenko in absentia.
            Negotiations in a different vein will proceed. And the world will begin ...
            [/ quote] Basmanny court arrested the military prosecutor of Ukraine in absentia

            We need to send specialists. Let them steal! In order not to be unfounded. Then everyone will be afraid of our ships ... [quote]
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 23 July 2017 20: 48
              +9
              Are you talking about the ukropsektor? So yes, Americans all over the world "seize" people and spit on everyone. And after the "withdrawal" you can talk ...
              1. Logall
                Logall 23 July 2017 21: 04
                +16
                The Mossad has been practicing this for a long time, and we have the opportunity. Even a law was passed allowing our special services to work abroad. And still something is wrong ...
                Maybe Volodya forgot about it?!?
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 23 July 2017 21: 09
                  +9
                  Quote: Logall
                  Maybe Volodya forgot about it?!?

                  Are you talking about Putin?
                  Quote: Logall
                  The Mossad has been practicing this for a long time, and we have the opportunity. Even a law was passed allowing our special services to work abroad. And still something is wrong ...

                  Yes, there is, I read it. But we can only guess why they are in no hurry to apply in action. Perhaps they are waiting for "big fish"?
                  1. Logall
                    Logall 23 July 2017 21: 15
                    +16
                    Quote: Jedi
                    Perhaps they are waiting for "big fish"?
                    Others

                    Trump? stop
                    I would like to, but then the war is definitely inevitable.
                    But some kind of `` Saakakashkashvilli '' would be nice yes
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 23 July 2017 21: 19
                      +9
                      I didn’t hint at anyone in particular, but I like your train of thought! good drinks
  2. Olegater
    Olegater 23 July 2017 18: 59
    +1
    There will be no progress. No truce will stop ukrov. All this is chatter and nothing shines for normal people.
  3. pjastolov
    pjastolov 23 July 2017 19: 00
    +5
    tra - the first telephone talks in the Normandy format in a long time, the first with the participation of the new French President Macron ... For Ukraine, the key issue is security and the release of hostages ...
    why they grab everything? - what would be someone to exchange?
    1. Cutter
      Cutter 23 July 2017 19: 08
      +7
      Of course, Vladimir! If they do not exchange, they will demand a ransom (I won’t be surprised!).
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 23 July 2017 19: 21
        +5
        If they do not exchange, they will demand a ransom (I won’t be surprised!).
        did not doubt - when the dill was born - the Jew cried hi
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  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 23 July 2017 19: 00
    +1
    (According to the UN, more than 10 thousand people have become victims of the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.) That 10 thousand human lives are nothing for Bandera's people. The case of Bandera's killer is being continued.
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  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 23 July 2017 19: 04
    +6
    To negotiate with stubs is not to respect yourself. How many of these agreements were there? And not one has been fulfilled. How can you believe the Piglet from the incomplete?
  8. svp67
    svp67 23 July 2017 19: 06
    +3
    For Ukraine, the key issue is security and the release of hostages ...
    Something about the affairs of this "panochka" is somehow not noticeable ...
    Our Minsk talks, which will take place on July 31 (skype conference on hostages) and on August 2 (all other, except humanitarian, groups) will largely depend on the results of the Normandy conference call,
    What the US ambassador tells you, you will do ...
  9. izya top
    izya top 23 July 2017 19: 07
    0
    so, tell me, who got bored? who woke up the petsyu today ?! angry
    Sanctions against Russia will be strengthened in case of non-fulfillment of the requirement for the onset of the regime of silence in the Donbas, which will be announced during a telephone conversation in the Normandy format. This was announced by President Petro Poroshenko on Facebook.
    "During the conference call in the Normandy format, which is scheduled for next week, I will demand the immediate provision of a regime of silence. In case of non-compliance, the strengthening of sanctions against Russia in accordance with the recent decision of the Big Seven," the message says.
  10. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 23 July 2017 19: 18
    +2
    history shows that progress in negotiations with our Western and Middle Eastern partners and their Kiev bedding occurs only after they receive stunning stars
  11. ded100
    ded100 23 July 2017 20: 06
    +2
    Minsk bullshit and gerashchenko is another balabol!

  12. japs
    japs 23 July 2017 20: 26
    +3
    Excuse me, but who is this gerashchenko?
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 23 July 2017 21: 58
      +1
      Quote: japs
      Excuse me, but who is this gerashchenko?

      the representative of Kiev in the humanitarian subgroup for Donbass Irina Gerashchenko.

      Presidential Plenipotentiary for the Peaceful Settlement of the Conflict in Donetsk and Luhansk Regions, First Vice Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of the VIII convocation

      and where she is wrong - everything is decided not by special representatives, but by the presidents ..
  13. Zibelew
    Zibelew 23 July 2017 21: 31
    0
    Victor, the T90's tower elements have a pronounced wedge-shaped shape.
  14. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 24 July 2017 04: 10
    0
    What "bazaar" - the regional committee does not give the go-ahead yet, there is nothing to talk about. and it is profitable for him to keep such a garbage dump close to Russia.