Hellish machines of the USSR nuclear era

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At one time, the foreign press more than once reported that the USSR Armed Forces were ready to use nuclear mines to cover the border with China. This, however, is about a long period of very unfriendly relations between Moscow and Beijing.

And then it was like that. In the event of a war between the PRC and its northern neighbor, real hordes would have poured into its territory, consisting of formations of the People's Liberation Army of China and the militia - the minbins. Only the latter, we note, significantly outnumbered all fully mobilized Soviet divisions. That is why at the borders separating the USSR from the Celestial Empire, in addition to the many dug in the ground tanks supposedly it was planned to resort to the installation of nuclear mines. According to the American journalist and former Soviet officer Mark Steinberg, each of them was able to turn a 10-kilometer border zone into a radioactive barrier.



Surprise in the well

It is known that the sappers are engaged in mining and demining, dealing with anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, unexploded bombs, shells and other extremely dangerous gizmos. But few have heard that in the Soviet army there were secret demining units for special purposes, created to eliminate nuclear bombs.

The presence of such units was due to the fact that during the Cold War, American forces in Europe placed nuclear explosive devices in special wells. They were supposed to work after the start of hostilities between NATO and the Warsaw Pact on the path of the Soviet tank armies rushing to the English Channel (the Pentagon had a bad dream at that time!). Approaches to nuclear mines could hide behind conventional minefields.

Meanwhile, civilians in the same West Germany, for example, lived and did not know that there was a well with American atomic ammunition nearby. Similar concrete mines with depths up to 6 meters could be found under bridges, at intersections of roads, directly on motorways and at other strategic points. Usually they were arranged in groups. And the banal type of metal lids made nuclear wells almost indistinguishable from ordinary sewer manholes.

However, there is also an opinion that in reality they did not install any land mines in these structures, they were empty and they should have dropped nuclear warheads only if there was a real threat of military conflict between the West and the East - during the “special period in the administration procedure” according to the terminology adopted by the Soviet army.

Atomic Coop

Platoons of reconnaissance and destruction of enemy nuclear mines appeared in the staff of engineer-sapper battalions of Soviet tank divisions stationed in the territory of the Warsaw Pact member countries in 1972. The personnel of these units knew the structure of the atomic "hellish machines" and had the necessary equipment for their search and neutralization. The sappers, who are known to make mistakes once, were completely unable to prevent a blunder.

Hellish machines of the USSR nuclear era


These American land mines included M31, M59, T-4, XM113, M167, M172 and M175 with the trotyl equivalent from 0,5 to 70 kilotons, combined under the general abbreviation ADM - Atomic Demolition Muntion, which has a snooper 16% theme figure. They were quite heavy devices weighing from 159 to 770 kilograms. The first and most difficult of land mines - M59 US Army adopted into service in 1953 year. For the installation of nuclear mine bombs, the United States troops in Europe had special demining units, for example, the 567-I engineering company, whose veterans even acquired a completely nostalgic website on the Internet.

The military of the United Kingdom tried to keep up with the overseas allies, and it wasn’t without uniform curiosity associated with chickens (such is a pun). The nuclear bomb, called the Blue Peacock Blue Peacock, looked like a hefty steel cylinder that held a plutonium charge with a power of 10 kilotons and ordinary explosives. Peacock was created at the end of the 50-ies on the basis of the first British nuclear bomber Blue Danube ("Blue Danube"). The bomb was already weighing more than seven tons, and the generals from foggy Albion decided to bury a dozen of such "birds" near important objects in the FRG and still with the same purpose - to blow them up in the event of a Soviet offensive.

The curiosity was that in order to provide the necessary technical microclimate inside the “Blue Peacocks” in the winter, the English were about to launch chickens with food and water. The developers of Blue Peacock believed that the hens and cocks with their biological warmth would effectively warm the sensitive electronic brains of the nuclear monster to cold. Undermining such a device could be carried out on a five-kilometer wire or using a timer with an urgency of up to eight days - about as much chicken food was calculated, as well as the composition of the air environment, so that birds would not suffocate in their own amber.

However, the deployment of underground atomic chicken hen did not happen. In 1958, the British Minister of Defense canceled the Blue Peacock program, believing that the safety of such a mine was insufficient and threatened serious political complications in the event of radiation incidents in the territory of a NATO ally. And in the 80-s were removed from service and exported from Europe and much more sophisticated American nuclear bombs.

Satchel and Californian Satchel

In the arsenal of the likely adversary, there were other exotic nuclear weapons. "Green Berets" - special forces, rangers - military personnel of subdivision military intelligence, "seals" - saboteurs of US naval special intelligence were trained to lay special small-sized nuclear mines, but already on the ground of the enemy, that is, in the USSR and other Warsaw Pact countries. It is known that such mines included М129 and М159. For example, the M159 nuclear mine had a mass of 68 kilograms and power, depending on the 0,01 and 0,25 modifications, kilotons. These mines were produced in 1964-1983.

At one time, there were rumors in the West that US intelligence agents were trying to implement a program for installing portable radio-controlled nuclear bombs in the Soviet Union (particularly in large cities, areas of hydraulic structures, etc.). In any case, units of American nuclear saboteurs, dubbed the Green Light ("Green Light"), conducted training sessions during which they learned to plant atomic "hellish machines" in hydroelectric dams, tunnels and other objects relatively resistant to "conventional" nuclear bombardment.

And what about the Soviet Union? Of course, he had similar means - this is no longer a secret. The special purpose units of the General Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff were armed with special nuclear mines PA41, PA47, PA97 and PA115, which were produced in 1967-1993.

The above-mentioned Mark Steinberg once reported on the presence in the Soviet army of portable explosive devices of the rya-xnumx-type backpack (rya-nuclear backpack). In one of his publications, an ex-citizen of the USSR writes: “The weight of X-Rum 6 is about 6 kilograms. It has a thermonuclear charge in which thorium and California are used. The charge power varies from 25 to 0,2 kilotons in TNT: Nuclear bomb is activated with a slow fuse actions, or remote control equipment at a distance of 1 kilometers. It is equipped with several non-maintainable systems: vibration, optical, acoustic and electromagnetic, so remove it from the installation site or neutralize it s almost impossible. "

So, and after all the American atomic "hellish machines" our special sappers learned to neutralize. Well, it remains only to take the hat off to the domestic scientists and engineers who created such weapon. It is worth mentioning the vague information about the allegedly (key word in this article) plans for laying sabotage nuclear mines in the areas of the mine launchers of American ICBMs that were considered by the Soviet leadership — they should have worked immediately after the launch of the missile, destroying it with a shock wave. Although it is, of course, more like action movies about James Bond. For such "counter-force bookmarks" would require about a thousand, which a priori made these intentions practically unrealizable.

At the initiative of the leadership of the United States and Russia, the sabotage nuclear mines of both countries have already been disposed of. In total, the United States and the USSR (Russia) produced, respectively, more 600 and about 250 small-sized backpack-type nuclear munitions for special forces. The last of these, Russian PA115, was disarmed in 1998. Whether there are similar "hellish machines" in other countries is unknown. The venerable experts agree that most likely not. But there is hardly any doubt that the same China, for example, has the capabilities to create and deploy them - the scientific, technical and production potential of the Middle Kingdom is quite enough for this.

And some other experts suspect that North Korea may have its own nuclear bombs embedded in advance tunnels. For nothing, the Juche idea followers are skilled masters of the underground war.
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  1. +7
    22 July 2017 15: 46
    Mark Steinberg such Mark Steinberg - thorium and California as nuclear materials laughing

    Steinberg is dumb as a cork - plutonium and lithium deuteride were used in nuclear mines.
    1. +4
      22 July 2017 16: 20
      RYA-6 nuclear backpack - a portable backpack-type explosive device.
      The weight of РЯ-6 is about 25 kilograms.
      РЯ-6т thermonuclear charge, in which thorium and California are used.
      Charge power varies from 0,2 to 1 kilotons of TNT.
      A landmine is activated either by a slow-blow fuse or by remote control equipment at ranges up to 40 kilometers.
      It is equipped with several non-decontamination systems: vibrational, optical, acoustic and electromagnetic, so it is almost impossible to remove it from the installation site or neutralize it.

      The warhead was placed in a metal case-box, dressed in a cover made of special leaded fabric, and carried on straps behind his back, like a satchel.
      The first version of these devices had dimensions 60 x 40 x 20 centimeters, weight 40 kilograms and was equipped with a timer.
      20 minutes were enough for one person to prepare a mine for an explosion.
      Then more compact devices were developed weighing 30 kilograms and measuring 45 x 35 x 30 centimeters.
      Ammunition with a capacity of one kiloton turned into a desert the entire district with a radius of up to 800 meters.
      Nuclear satchels possessed a powerful shock wave and were intended mainly for the destruction of strategically important objects in the rear of the enemy.

      http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=8
      572.0
      A nuclear mine (actually SADM), unlike the heavier nuclear landmine (MADM), was produced in a knapsack version and carried by one or two soldiers. These shells could land in special containers, accompanied by paratroopers.
      Such devices were developed in the USSR and the USA (in the 1960 for the Navy and Marine Corps), but have never been used. Attempts to develop a nuclear landmine have been made in the UK (see Blue Peacock).

      http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/180430
      Do not spoil the mess go to sleep ..
      1. +2
        22 July 2017 16: 35
        The canoe is complete, "they say spies poisoned the water, moonshine ..." (V.S. Vysotsky).
      2. +7
        22 July 2017 16: 59
        Maybe they’re writing correctly on the Internet, but apparently not all. laughing
        1. +1
          22 July 2017 17: 02
          And then they write the truth with a MEPhI diploma in their hands?
          I don’t believe the last trend, without providing a refutation with a link ...
          1. +8
            22 July 2017 19: 08
            I have a modest VU diploma drinks And I did not refute anything, I just noticed that they did not write about everything that had a place to be. Including about small-sized nuclear weapons. But I have already been hinted that my fantasies are beginning to outweigh the limitation period of the subscription, so that further - without me. hi
    2. +7
      22 July 2017 18: 07
      Most likely you are right - thorium and California, how to implement thermonuclear ??? However, I somehow read Steinberg that in Afghanistan they tested a combat laser and called it Black Arba. But the “Kara arba” mlm “Shaitan arba” is the ZSU-23-4 “Shilka” with which they pulled out the electronics and removed the locator. Maybe he mistook the tracer train for the laser beam?
    3. +4
      22 July 2017 19: 19
      Quote: Operator
      thorium and california as nuclear materials

      Not as nuclear materials but as materials for the manufacture of the components of the Device.
      For example, thorium is almost the best material for making protection against ionizing radiation. After all, nobody needs a deceased saboteur with a "nuclear mine" who died on the way from radiation or a torn saboteur.
      California is a very compact neutron source
      1. +6
        22 July 2017 21: 20
        The price of 1 grams of California is about 30 million dollars. An 100-t nuclear bomb would require at least 100 grams of California worth 3 billion dollars.

        On goat’s horseradish, when normal plutonium 1980-t nuclear charges (costing four orders of magnitude less) in the 3000 / 152-mm artillery shell weighing 155 kg (weight of the actual nuclear charge without the shell shell) already existed in the 48's estimate in 25 kg)?

        Thorium also has nothing to do with it - the existing technology for handling nuclear shells in the troops is completely dispensed with thorium.
        1. +1
          22 July 2017 21: 23
          Quote: Operator
          The price of 1 grams of California is about 30 million dollars. An 100-t nuclear bomb would require at least 100 grams of California worth 3 billion dollars.
          On goat’s horseradish, when normal plutonium 1980-t nuclear charges (costing four orders of magnitude less) in the 3000 / 152-mm artillery shell weighing 155 kg (weight of the actual nuclear charge without the shell shell) already existed in the 48's estimate in 25 kg)?
          Thorium also has nothing to do with it - the existing technology for handling nuclear shells in the troops is completely dispensed with thorium.

          CAN I LINK TO THAT Nonsense YOU SAY HERE?
          1. +5
            22 July 2017 21: 40
            DARAGOY, why the link: here is the whole photo, DAAAAAAA


            At the price of California Google to help (you need to rave less, roam the forums and abuse the capsloc).

            VO drives bully
            1. +2
              22 July 2017 21: 58
              Quote: Operator
              DARAGOY, why the link: here is the whole photo, DAAAAAAA

              At the price of California Google to help (you need to rave less, roam the forums and abuse the capsloc).

              So there will be no link to your nonsense, of course, I did not expect another ...
              VO drives tongue tongue but it has nothing to do with you, gee ...
            2. 0
              27 July 2017 16: 32


              here is the same)))
    4. +2
      22 July 2017 23: 23
      Quote: Operator
      Mark Steinberg

      at least he’s a real face, which can’t be said about -
      Quote: Author: Konstantin Chuprin
      We should also mention the vague information about the allegedly (the key word in this article) plans considered by the Soviet leadership for laying sabotage nuclear mines in the areas of mine launchers of American ICBMs

      :)))))))))))
      this, in principle, could not be!

      At the same time, they were talking about something else -
      there were super specialists of an extra long shot ...
    5. +3
      23 July 2017 01: 06
      Spent a short excursion. According to my first education, “plasma physics and thermonuclear reactions”, I’m not a nuclear scientist or a solid physicist, but maybe Steinberg is not far from the truth. Such work was really carried out on nuclear "suitcases." Waged and with California, even tried to create a gun. The fact is that the critical mass of California is about 6 grams. This was encouraging. But radioactivity is such that practically if something was created, it is only for suicides. But even for California, we could only talk about nuclear, but not thermonuclear ammunition. Thorium is more difficult, but Litvinenko’s story is alarming. In the past, thorium could be obtained quite legally, almost to the Internet. The danger is that if something like this was produced and not destroyed, then it can get to reckless martyrs. I hope that they destroyed everything at zero.
      1. 0
        23 July 2017 07: 45
        In the past, thorium could be obtained quite legally, almost to the Internet.

        “Monazite sand” drive into the search.
    6. 0
      23 July 2017 07: 37
      thorium and california as nuclear materials

      after these words did not read.
    7. 0
      23 July 2017 13: 04
      Do you have accurate data ?. Something I doubt about plutonium. Such a weight will be immeasurable
  2. +1
    22 July 2017 18: 01
    As for nuclear mines on the border with China - it is possible, but there is no evidence, there were rumors in the 70s in ZabVO that went around. about tanks - for sure. Removed from the Cocoon IS-3 drove under its own power in the UR, buried, concreted and turned into firing points.
    1. +1
      22 July 2017 18: 37
      There were reports that in the 1960-1970s, allegedly, there was a great desire to deliver a nuclear attack on China, they appealed to the United States for approval, but the "partners" allegedly did not agree.
      1. +2
        22 July 2017 23: 40
        Quote: iouris
        There were reports that in the 1960-1970s, allegedly, there was a great desire to deliver a nuclear strike on China

        here is the nonsense of 100%!
        This could not be in any scenario.

        What is true is true: in those years they introduced goals for strategists in a southerly direction. And they additionally painted the sight rail in “yellow color” in this azimuth (in addition to the “red” and “blue” sectors). But, all the "aimers" when working in this direction - acted condescendingly smiling, and almost neighing in the voice, because they never imagined that something serious was possible. Here are the launches in the "red" and "blue" sectors - yes, they were preparing for this ...
        1. +1
          23 July 2017 01: 08
          Well, we glued the cards ...
        2. +1
          23 July 2017 13: 24
          In 1941, too, neighing
    2. +12
      22 July 2017 19: 13
      I happened to serve in the fortified area in those places - NTOT (fixed tank firing point) there is a usual element of defense. We didn’t have IS at that time, 72 people from Poland or Mongolia were driven there, I don’t remember. But the tankers remained on the old 62s. Cool, huh?
      1. 0
        22 July 2017 19: 28
        "Do not give horses and gentlemen officers water" (c)?
        1. +7
          22 July 2017 20: 57
          Unlike the horse, "gentlemen officers" more and more on cognac. So - do not serve. drinks
          1. +5
            22 July 2017 21: 10
            This is from the legends about Dauria. Allegedly the words of Catherine II. And supposedly since then, the imported water, and therefore the lieutenant can go there only with his wife, because you can stay without water. Who will recruit her while he is on duty? 8))))))))))
            1. +11
              22 July 2017 21: 35
              Fortunately, I did not stay in Dauria. Therefore, I do not remember their local legends. There was such a kapets that even the Sherlov Hole seemed like a pleasant stop. And, by the way, Dauria to the URs was not sideways, and Sherlovaya was just the UR Ñ 35 - the real one, with the signatures of Karbyshev in the DFS forms. Touched the story, so to speak drinks
              1. +8
                22 July 2017 21: 54
                On the other hand, in the Sherlov commander of the unit, they were tried by a court of honor that it was nonsense, so he rose to the rank of deputy chief commissar of the Russian Federation.
                And my friend and drinking companion, deputy political commander, in Chechnya, already, in my opinion, fought 276 SMEs as the head of intelligence.
                As Tolstoy wrote in a book about Pinocchio about us: Night fell on the ground and work began to boil in the Land of Fools. laughing
                I would not love the army, I would not quit.
      2. +1
        23 July 2017 01: 15
        The IS-3s were removed from the Cocoon, new and drove under their own power in the UR - 1972 - 1974. There, even the finest fur headsets lay on the whole crew!
    3. +1
      22 July 2017 23: 25
      Quote: LeonidL
      IS-3 drove under its own power in the URs, dug, concreted and turned into firing points.

      ... moreover, they shot HD and put small dysgens. And the crews carried the database.
      1. +2
        23 July 2017 01: 16
        Similarly, everything is correct. Engines were no longer needed there, and the mileage was ridiculous
    4. +3
      23 July 2017 21: 23
      Well, about the concreting, you went too far. Just a caponier for a tank, on the sides of the reinforced concrete, so that the soil does not crumble, camouflage, barbed wire barriers + made up a mining scheme, etc.
      In addition to the Is-3, the IS-4 was a rare vehicle in our RTO (company of tank firing points).
      In the photo of IS-4, by the way, the garrison Grafsky Dalnerechensk (Iman).
  3. +6
    22 July 2017 22: 32
    The most terrible threat to the United States is the Soviet man brought up in the USSR - we were taught to stand for the Motherland. And the current generation will sell its point for an iPhone - parent number one and parent number two.
    1. +7
      23 July 2017 01: 17
      Well, do not generalize. Chechnya and Syria have shown that real men always exist and will be in Russia!
    2. +2
      23 July 2017 13: 00
      Well .... I have an iPhone, so what? selling homeland?
      I’ll disappoint iPhone manufacturers very much, God forbid!
    3. +1
      23 July 2017 21: 44
      Quote: Gray Brother
      The most terrible threat to the United States is the Soviet man brought up in the USSR - we were taught to stand for the Motherland. And the current generation will sell its point for an iPhone - parent number one and parent number two.

      Well, why did the Soviet people not protect the USSR from collapse in 1991?
      1. +3
        26 July 2017 12: 44
        Quote: 0255
        Quote: Gray Brother
        The most terrible threat to the United States is the Soviet man brought up in the USSR - we were taught to stand for the Motherland. And the current generation will sell its point for an iPhone - parent number one and parent number two.

        Well, why did the Soviet people not protect the USSR from collapse in 1991?

        This is a forbidden technique! People (simple) had nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR! All questions to the elites, they snickered, etc., but people voted "FOR" the preservation of the USSR, including me! hi Then a war would happen, for example with NATO, the majority (overwhelming) would die.
        1. +2
          28 July 2017 14: 32
          Unfortunately, “ordinary people,” or rather residents of Moscow, have a very direct bearing on the collapse of the Union. It was in August 91, at least in our country, that Maidan won. He won on the basis of clips from the scene, powerlessness and cowardice of some representatives of the authorities and the intuitive ability of the Yeltsin team to take advantage of this for their own purposes. Now there are attempts to shift the blame on the ruling elites of the republics, and Yeltsin seems to be defending himself. It's a lie. Uzbekistan, for example (read Karimov) remained in the ruble zone until 93. And only then it began .. their passports, their own currency, state language, etc. If Moscow hadn’t supported Yeltsin, history would have gone in a different direction. As well as in St. Petersburg 91
          1. +1
            28 July 2017 20: 58
            sergej.me2010
            Unfortunately, “ordinary people,” or rather residents of Moscow, have a very direct bearing on the collapse of the Union.

            Again ... they got away with whose life failed, again the Muscovites are to blame, where you yourself were at that time, then I was in a pioneer camp, but if I were older I would be with my father at the White House defending my President and RSFSR ...
            Neither your Karimovs, nor your Uzbekistan, nor the USSR, where the RSFSR and the BSSR were the poorest republics (working for two at the same time, put everything in their place), which “fed” my RSFSR with their clap, and then after the collapse of the Union in W .... where now and continues to be located ....
    4. 0
      19 March 2024 20: 14
      Are you sure you should stand and not lie on the stove? something no one came out to defend in 1991, when the Motherland was facing a real, not a fictitious threat
  4. +5
    22 July 2017 23: 21
    Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
    So there will be no link to your nonsense, of course, I did not expect another ...

    Incidentally, the post of the Operator is not so delirious as you think. I, in principle, also can not understand why a charge with a power of 0,5-2 kt needs a thermonuclear charge, and on such elements as thorium or California? Plutonium was perfectly used in shells of the Symbolism, Aspect, Chamomile, and Mint shells. It is possible that with ammunition protection means (shell) the weight of such ammunition could well be 30 kg.
    The indexes given in the article are embarrassing. They DO NOT MEET the ammunition in question. In short, it seems to me that the article itself has too much "blizzard"
    1. +1
      22 July 2017 23: 51
      The indexes given in the article are embarrassing. They DO NOT MEET the ammunition in question.

      Can you give indexes that correspond to reality with links?
      1. +1
        23 July 2017 12: 51
        Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
        Can you give indexes that correspond to reality with links?

        Uncle, does your permit allow? Are you sure you can sleep well?
        1. +1
          23 July 2017 12: 57
          Quote: faridg7
          Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
          Can you give indexes that correspond to reality with links?

          Uncle, does your permit allow? Are you sure you can sleep well?

          Hamite? I’m not your uncle and I don’t have permission. It’s just that nobody besides me gives any links here, but it’s just clever and balabolyut ...
          Are you sure you can sleep well?

          If there is a lot of information from which it is bad to fall asleep, well, what to each his own way ....
          1. +2
            23 July 2017 13: 04
            Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
            Hamite?

            Am I rude? Yes, I even politely send on foot erotic to “you”.
            Just asking such questions to people related to 12 GUMOs is at least stupid, and you can also judge intellect by questions.
            1. +1
              23 July 2017 13: 27
              Quote: faridg7
              Yes, I even politely send on foot erotic to “you”.

              I wish you there too ...
              Essentially, what I wanted, nothing, I thought the next provocateur on the ban ...., note you into trolls, then to ignore ...
  5. +2
    23 July 2017 03: 17
    I wonder where this article was dug up. She is already seven years old.
    "Infernal machines" of the nuclear era
    The story of little-known weapons of mass destruction
    No 3 (244) from 27.01.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX [“Arguments of the Week”, Konstantin CHUPRIN]
  6. +1
    23 July 2017 08: 13
    The critical mass of weapons-grade uranium is 40-60 kg, plutonium 10-20 kg. Depending on the purity and concentration of the metal. Explosive power 18-25kt. After learning how to make explosive compression of plutonium, the era of compact nuclear devices of controlled power according to the plutonium initiator-lithium uranium tamper scheme . The total mass of fissile material rarely exceeds 15 kg. The rest is physical protection and electronic support. The main problem of nuclear mines was precisely the weight of radiation protection.

    PS: Mr. Steinberg is not a trustworthy gossip. All of the above information is available (and long ago) in the public domain.
    1. +2
      23 July 2017 13: 27
      The critical mass of plutonium in 152 / 155-mm shells with a power of 3-5 Kt in TNT is 6 kg - due to the use of a beryllium reflector and a tritium-deuterium initiator.

      By the way, the article in question contains another delusional statement by the author / Steinberg that explosive devices with the power of 0,1 Kt were allegedly used as nuclear mines.
      In reality, such devices are called precision and are intended solely for sabotage purposes, and not for creating radioactive defensive strips in front of enemy army units.
      As a thermonuclear fuel, precision nuclear weapons use a beryllium capsule with a tritium-deuterium gas mixture (an enlarged analogue of the initiator in a nuclear charge), crimped by an implosive explosion of a chemical explosive charge. The weight of precision nuclear weapons assembled with a housing can be estimated at several kg.
  7. +2
    23 July 2017 09: 07
    If there are nuclear munitions of 152-155 calibres, then backpack variants are also quite likely!
  8. +2
    23 July 2017 10: 21
    Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
    The indexes given in the article are embarrassing. They DO NOT MEET the ammunition in question.

    Can you give indexes that correspond to reality with links?

    Of course not. Especially with the links. But I can tell uniquelythat devices with these indices (and this is the 3rd generation charge designation) are only BG and warhead missiles. Moreover, surface-to-surface missiles. This is clearly indicated by the second letter in the index.
    In principle, if you have access to a good library, then you can see a publication like the “Atomic Energy Bulletin” about 10-15 years ago. Then they often talked about nuclear weapons.
  9. +1
    24 July 2017 00: 57
    Quote: andrewkor
    If there are nuclear munitions of 152-155 calibres, then backpack variants are also quite likely!

    More precisely if there were, then knapsack options are quite likely
    There were artillery shells and knapsack variants of sabotage mines. Shells, at least existed until 1992. Since 1992, shells in the American army were not in service
  10. +1
    24 July 2017 08: 10
    Quote: Operator
    By the way, the article in question contains another delusional statement by the author / Steinberg that explosive devices with the power of 0,1 Kt were allegedly used as nuclear mines.

    This is not a delusional statement. Nuclear sabotage mine (SADM) type M-159 had capacities depending on the modification from 10 tons (mod. 1) to 450 tons (mod. 4)
    The first American nuclear mine ADM-B had a capacity of 90 tons to 40 kt, depending on the modification.
    1. +7
      25 July 2017 17: 31
      The same landmines were in the SA. The operator on the wiki did not write this laughing
  11. 0
    25 July 2017 18: 00
    Quote: Doliva63
    The same landmines were in the SA. The operator on the wiki did not write this laughing

    No one denies that such landmines were with us. It is possible that TNTE was the same or similar.
    Personally, three things annoy me.
    1. The statement in the article that the charge was thermonuclear. I honestly do not see the need for a thermonuclear charge at powers of 0,5 kt -3 kt.
    2. The statement that the charge used thorium and California as the material. Why reinvent the wheel when the same thing could be done with plutonium?
    3. Inconsistency of the indices given in the article to the products themselves
    1. +7
      26 July 2017 21: 21
      Usually the equivalent was 0,2. Without fusion, of course. And their indices, I suspect, are still under the stamp.
  12. 0
    26 July 2017 23: 15
    Quote: Doliva63
    Usually the equivalent was 0,2. Without fusion, of course. And their indices, I suspect, are still under the stamp.

    I generally suspect that the 12GUMO indices are still grooved, and not just these charges. Although the materials on these indices go a lot. Well, in principle, it always has been like that with us. Secretaries sometimes that it was not necessary to secret
  13. 0
    28 July 2017 17: 12
    according to American journalist and former Soviet officer Mark Steinberg

    you can’t read further .... the truth about such things under such a “vulture” that we have, what they have ... in general, in two hundred years .... and even not in full ....
    In general, at first I thought that this is about this
    http://naucaitechnika.ru/blog/43630191128/Atomnyi
    y-automobil-mechtyi
    or Soviet mobile power station PES-3 ....

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"