How Kerensky became the destroyer of Russia and the Russian army

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How Kerensky became the destroyer of Russia and the Russian army

100 years ago, 21 July 1917, Alexander Kerensky became the head of the Provisional Government. One of the active Februaryist-Westernizers, the destroyers of the Russian empire and autocracy, he finally destabilized the situation in Russia. In particular, by his actions he completely demoralized the armed forces of Russia, which led to the fact that the authorities were able to seize the more radical left forces. In fact, Freemason Kerensky performed the task of consistently demolishing the Russian statehood and Russian civilization, which was set before Western Masons and representatives of the “fifth column” by “architects” from the West.

Having fulfilled its destructive mission, Kerensky calmly went to the West. Using the patronage of the owners of England and the United States, he lived a quiet and long life (he died in 1970 year). In 1920-1930, he performed with sharp anti-Soviet lectures, calling on Western Europe to take a crusade against Soviet Russia. Being a very informed man, he foresaw a new round of conflict between the West and Russia. Indeed, soon a new “crusade” of the united “European Union” led by Germany against Russia-USSR was led by Adolf Hitler.



Alexander Fedorovich studied at the Law Faculty of St. Petersburg University and began his career as a political defender during the First Revolution. He spent a short time in exile as a member of the terrorist organization of the Social Revolutionaries. He defended peasants who robbed landowners' estates, left-wing radicals, Socialist-Revolutionaries, terrorists, Armenian nationalist militants. He was elected to the fourth State Duma from the city of Volsk in the Saratov province, as the Social Revolutionary Party decided to boycott the elections, formally withdrew from this party and joined the "Trudovik" faction, which he headed from 1915. In the Duma he gave critical speeches to the government and gained fame as one of the best left-wing speakers.

Kerensky also became a prominent Freemason: in 1915-1917. - Secretary General of the Supreme Council of the Great East of the Peoples of Russia - the Paramason organization, the founding members of which in 1910-1912 left the “Renaissance” lodge of the Grand East of France. The great east of the peoples of Russia put political activity on top of their priorities. In addition to Kerensky, the Supreme Council of the Lodge included such political figures as N. S. Chkheidze, N. D. Sokolov (future author of Order No. 1, who initiated the disintegration of the Russian imperial army), A. I. Braudo, S. D Maslovsky-Mstislavsky, N. V. Nekrasov, S. D. Urusov and others.

In 1916, an uprising began in Turkestan, which was motivated by the mobilization of the local population. To investigate the events, the State Duma created a commission headed by Kerensky. Having studied the events on the spot, he laid the blame for the incident on the government, accused the Minister of the Interior of abuse of authority, demanded that corrupt local officials be brought to justice. In his Duma speech 16 (29) of December 1916, he actually called for the overthrow of the autocracy, after which the Empress Alexandra Feodorovna stated that "Kerensky should be hanged." Protection of terrorists, criminals and radicals and populist speeches created Kerensky image of an uncompromising exposer of the vices of the tsarist regime, brought popularity among liberals, created a reputation as one of the leaders of the Duma opposition. At the same time he was smart, well educated, had the talent of a speaker and actor. Thus, by 1917, he was already a fairly well-known politician.

Kerensky’s rise to the heights of power began during the February Revolution, which he enthusiastically accepted and became an active Februaryist. Kerensky on February 14 (27), 1917, in his speech in the Duma declared: “Historical the task of the Russian people at the moment is the task of destroying the medieval regime immediately, at all costs ... How can legal means be used to fight those who turned the law into weapon bullying people? With violators of the law, there is only one way to fight - to eliminate them physically. ” Chairman Rodzianko interrupted Kerensky’s speech by asking what he meant. The answer came immediately: "I mean what Brutus did in the days of ancient Rome." As a result, Kerensky was one of the most active and most determined organizers of the new regime.

After the 26 on 27 in February (12 in March) at midnight. The 1917 session of the Duma was interrupted by the decree of Tsar Nicholas II, at the Council of Elders of February 27 urged not to obey the Tsar's will. On the same day, he became a member of the Provisional Committee of the State Duma formed by the Council of Elders and a member of the Military Commission that led the actions of the revolutionary forces against the police. At the same time, Kerensky actively spoke out before the protesters and soldiers, winning their respect. Kerensky again joined the Socialist Revolutionary Party and was appointed representative of the Petrograd Soviet in the revolutionary Provisional Committee established in the Duma. March 3 in the Duma representatives contributes to the rejection of the power of Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich. Thus, during the February-March coup, Kerensky is introduced to the group of leading February revolutionaries in two centers of power at once: as comrade (deputy) chairman of the executive committee in the first composition of the Petrograd Soviet and in the first composition of the Provisional Government, formed on the basis of the Interim Committee, as Minister of Justice.

Kerensky appeared in public in a military-style jacket, although he never served in the army. Supported the ascetic image of the "people's leader." As Minister of Justice, he initiated such decisions of the Provisional Government as an amnesty for political prisoners, recognition of the independence of Poland, restoration of the constitution of Finland. By order of Kerensky, all revolutionary activists were returned from exile. Under Kerensky, the destruction of the former judicial system began. Already on March 3, the institute of the magistrates was reorganized - the courts began to be formed of three members: judges and two assessors. On March 4, the Supreme Criminal Court, the special presence of the Governing Senate, judicial chambers and district courts with the participation of class representatives were abolished. Terminated investigation of the murder of Grigory Rasputin. When 2 (15) of March issued the Order No. 1 on the “democratization of the army”, coming from the Petrograd Soviet, Secretary of War Guchkov and Foreign Minister Miliukov opposed its legalization. Kerensky supported the idea (How the Februaryists destroyed the army).

Thus, the Freemason Kerensky actively promoted the destruction of the former legal system, the order in Russia, the criminal revolution, and the strengthening of the revolutionary, radical wing of the fevralists. He also supported ethno-separatists, the separation of national suburbs. With his support, the active collapse of the armed forces began (Order No. 1).

In April 1917, Foreign Minister P. N. Milyukov assured the Allied powers that Russia would certainly continue the war to a victorious end. Miliukov was a Westerner, who believed that the revolution had won, the main task was realized (autocracy was destroyed) and stabilization was needed in order to lead Russia along the western path. At the same time, he hoped that “the West would help” and actively served his life in front of Western “allied partners”. But in reality, the Western masters needed further destabilization of Russia, its disintegration and the complete solution of the “Russian question” with the subsequent occupation of the most important areas. In London, Washington and Paris, no one was going to give the "democratic" Russia straits, Constantinople and support "a single and indivisible Russia."

Therefore, the stakes were made on further destabilization and radicalization of the situation in Petrograd, and through the capital all over Russia. One of the agents of influence who had to solve this problem was Kerensky. 24 April Kerensky threatened to leave the government and the Soviets to join the opposition if Milyukov was not removed from his post and a coalition government was created, including representatives of the socialist parties. 5 (18) May 1917, Prince Lvov was forced to fulfill this requirement and go on to create the first coalition government. Milyukov and Guchkov resigned, socialists joined the government, and Kerensky received the most important portfolio of the military and maritime minister, which allowed him to complete the collapse of the last institute, which restrained Russia's complete turmoil - the army.

After becoming Minister of War, Kerensky carried out a "purge" of the army. The new minister of war appointed generals of little-known, but close to him generals, who received the nickname “Young Turks” to key posts in the army. Kerensky appointed his brother-in-law, V. L. Baranovsky, to the post of head of the cabinet of the minister of war, who he promoted to colonel and a month later to major general. Kerensky appointed the ministers of the General Staff G. A. Yakubovich and G. N. Tumanov as assistants to the Minister of War, people who were not sufficiently experienced in military affairs, but then were active participants in the February revolution. May 22 (June 4) 1917 of the year Kerensky appoints the Supreme Commander of the “liberal” General A. Brusilov instead of the more conservative General MV Alekseev. Brusilov himself was skeptical about his purpose: "I understood that, in essence, the war was over for us, because there was, of course, no means to force the troops to fight."

In turn, Brusilov tried to please the revolutionary soldiers, played in the "revolutionary democracy", this tactic was erroneous and did not give positive results. Brusilov replaced General Kaledin, who commanded the 8 Army, for the lack of support for the "democratization of the army" and replaced it with a popular officer and soldier, General Kornilov. For the same reason, the hero of the storming of Erzerum, commander-in-chief of the Caucasian army Yudenich, one of the most determined and successful generals of the tsarist army, was dismissed.

Feeling distrust of the generals, who still had power - bayonets and sabers, Kerensky established the institute of government informers who were looking after the commissars. They were stationed at Headquarters, headquarters of the fronts and armies to coordinate their work with the soldiers' committees and monitor the generals. 9 May 1917, Kerensky issued the “Declaration of the Rights of a Soldier”, which is close to the content of Order No. 1. Subsequently, General A. I. Denikin wrote that "this" declaration of rights "... finally undermined all the foundations of the army." The Russian general frankly said that "The army collapsed military legislation" in recent months. " And the main military legislators then were the Freemasons Sokolov and Kerensky.

It is worth noting that for a short time in the insane asylum, which Russia then turned into, Kerensky gained popularity almost equal to Napoleon Bonaparte in the years of his glory. Kerensky in the newspapers, which mainly controlled the liberals, the masons, called: "knight of the revolution", "lion's heart", "first love of the revolution", "people's tribune", "genius of Russian freedom", "sun of freedom of Russia", "people's leader ”,“ The savior of the Fatherland ”,“ the prophet and hero of the revolution ”,“ the good genius of the Russian revolution ”,“ the first national commander in chief ”, etc. However, it soon became clear that it was a bluff, a myth. Kerensky was a “parsley” ruled by the masters of France, England and the USA. He had to prepare Russia for a new stage of unrest - the coming to power of radical forces, nationalist separatists, and the Civil War. And after that, devastated by a terrible fratricidal war, divided into national and “independent” Bantustans, Russia became easy prey for the West.

At the post of Minister of War, Kerensky struck another terrible blow at the Russian army - he became the main organizer (at the initiative of the western "partners") of the June-July offensive - the so-called. "The Offensive of Kerensky." The army already had a complete collapse: a catastrophic fall in discipline, “rallies”, mass desertion, failure of units to fight, rear collapse, etc. In defense, the troops still held on, defended themselves, thereby linking the great forces of the Austro-German and Turkish armies helping the allies. But such an army could not attack, the maximum was local, short-term offensive operations, with the help of attack units ready to go to certain death. But with a large offensive, the flimsy balance that was preserved in the army was broken. The soldiers massively refused to fight, fled from the front line, while some regiments and divisions fought, the neighboring rallied and went to the rear. And indeed, after the failure of the Nivelles offensive on the Western Front ("Nivel Meat Grinder") the offensive of the Russian army lost all meaning. But the Western powers pressed on the semi-colonial, pro-Western Provisional Government and the Russian soldiers again served as "cannon fodder."

Military historian A. Zayonchkovsky described the picture of the collapse of the Russian army in those days: “At the beginning of May (according to the old style, according to the new style - in the second half of May - the Author), when Kerensky received the portfolio of the military and naval minister, he began a feverish preparation for active actions at the front. Kerensky is moving from one army to another, from one corps to another and is furiously agitating for a general offensive. The Socialist-Revolutionary-Menshevik Soviets and front committees in every way helped Kerensky. In order to suspend the ongoing collapse of the army, Kerensky proceeded to the formation of voluntary shock units. “To advance, to advance!” - Kerensky shouted hysterically, wherever possible, and he was echoed by the officers and the front, army regimental committees, especially the South-Western Front. The soldiers, who were in the trenches, came to the "scouts" who called for war and an offensive, who were not only indifferent and indifferent, but also hostile. The vast majority of the mass of soldiers was, as before, against any offensive action. ... The mood of these masses is illustrated by one of the typical letters of soldiers of that time: “If this war does not end soon, then it seems to be a bad story. When will our bloodthirsty, fat-bellied bourgeois get drunk to the full? And just let them dare to delay the war for a few more time, then we will go at them with weapons in our hands and then we will not give mercy to anyone. “The whole army is asking and waiting for us from us, but the whole damned bourgeoisie does not want to give us and is waiting for them to be massacred without exception.” Such was the menacing mood of the soldiers at the front. In the rear, things were even worse.

Kerensky arrived at the front, which led to the fact that the offensive was postponed for a few more days in order to give a talkative minister to talk with the soldiers. Kerensky toured front-line units, spoke at numerous rallies, trying to inspire the troops, after which he received the nickname of the “supreme leader”. The historian Richard Pipes describes the effect that the Minister of War delivered speeches: “The words“ triumphal march ”are not strong enough to describe Kerensky’s trip on the fronts. By the power of excitement, which she left behind, she could be compared to a whirlwind. The crowds waited for hours to cast one glance at him. Everywhere his path was strewn with flowers. The soldiers ran miles behind his car, trying to shake his hand and kiss the edge of his clothes. ” True, the contemporaries of the events and other historians noted that the soldiers of many units on the front lines were indifferent or even contemptuous to the arrival of Kerensky and other agitators.

"The offensive of Kerensky" quite naturally ended in complete failure (The failure of the "offensive of Kerensky"; H. 2). Attack units were knocked out, the rest of the troops after the first days of the offensive, when they were still successful, quickly exhausted and did not want to fight, mass desertion began, the refusal of whole units to go to the front, the unauthorized departure of troops to the rear. Austro-German troops launched a counter-offensive and occupied Galicia. All previous successes of the Russian army in the 1916 campaign of the year, for which hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers paid with their lives and blood, were crossed out. And the Russian army, having suffered a heavy defeat, was no longer subject to recovery. It was replaced by the formation of nationalists and separatists, Cossacks, future "whites", the Red Guard, organized criminal groups.

The June offensive led to the July demonstration of the revolutionary masses in Petrograd (July 3-5 July 1917) led by the Bolsheviks and anarchists. That caused another crisis of the Provisional Government. From 8 (21) in July 1917, the city of Kerensky replaced Lvov as minister-chairman, retaining the post of military and maritime minister, that is, he received full authority in Russia. Temporarily, with the help of Kornilov, who became the Supreme Commander, Petrograd and the army restored order. Then Kerensky with the help of a new provocation - the so-called. "Kornilov mutiny", finished off the army and generals.

Then the country went to the dressing. Western masons destroyed the Romanovs' empire, the autocracy, and destroyed the Russian statehood, the army. The last clamp, which still held the entire building of the Russian state - the army, was completely decomposed and demoralized. Smoot swept the whole of Russia, all those socio-economic, political and national faults that accumulated in the Romanovs for centuries came to the surface. And only Russian Communists were able to offer civilizations and people a new development project and a state that was in the interests of the labor majority.

In Russian history, Alexander Kerensky is one of the most negative figures. - a protege of pro-Western Freemasonry, the owners of the West, a man who made a great contribution to the development of unrest and the beginning of the Civil War in Russia. The politician who finished off the remnants of the Russian imperial army. In the 20th century, this destroyer ranks with Trotsky, Khrushchev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, with the great enemies of Russian civilization and the people.
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  1. +3
    21 July 2017 07: 06
    Freemasons were not very weighed down by the fact that in Russia in the process of such large-scale changes, certain territories may depart - the main thing was to make a political transformation of the system, and losses and casualties were already of secondary importance.

    This is the main task of all revolutions from 1905 to 1917: Subjugate the largest empire country to the masters of the Western world. For this, and only for this, the World War and the natural revolutions that followed it were calculated in countries that were not sufficiently subordinate to them.
  2. +4
    21 July 2017 07: 08
    Freemasons were not very weighed down by the fact that in Russia in the process of such large-scale changes, certain territories may depart - the main thing was to make a political transformation of the system, and losses and casualties were already of secondary importance.

    This is the main task of all revolutions from 1905 to 1917: Subjugate the largest empire country to the masters of the Western world. For this, and only for this, the World War and the natural revolutions that followed it were calculated in countries that were not sufficiently subordinate to them.
  3. +1
    21 July 2017 07: 36
    V. L. Baranovsky-After the October Revolution was arrested. He was imprisoned in the Peter and Paul Fortress until January 4, 1918, when he was released on parole. In March 1918 he was dismissed from service. From September 1918 in the Red Army: military instructor of the main department of Vsevobuch, from December 6, 1918 - head of the educational and organizational department of Vsevobuch. Then the assistant to the head of the department of Vsevobuch from January 31 to December 20, 1919. At the same time from January 31 to November 27, 1919 - Chief of Staff of the troops of the so-called. Moscow defense sector, created to defend the approaches to Moscow in view of Denikin’s advancement in the Moscow, Ryazan, Tula and Kaluga provinces. From December 20, 1919 until the beginning of 1921, he was an assistant chief of the General Staff. Since April 15, 1921 - Head of the Organizational Management of the Headquarters of the Red Army. In 1921-1924 - head of the operational-combat unit of the communications department of the Red Army. Then - the military instructor of the Institute for Advanced Studies of Public Education and the chief military instructor of Moscow universities. He was arrested on February 17, 1931 in the case of Vesna. He pleaded guilty to the creation of counter-revolutionary organizations. According to his wife, at that time he was seriously ill. Sentenced to death, with 10 years of forced labor camps replaced. Where he died.
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  4. +2
    21 July 2017 07: 48
    An opinion on a person’s question, let’s say so, with an unclouded historical view.
    "... Russian Freemasonry at the beginning of the XNUMXth century had little in common with what appeared in the minds of the general public with the word" Freemason. "There were no mysterious rites, there was no" world government "that stretched out its tentacles in all directions. Instead, there was An extensive network of semi-legal organizations uniting a diverse contingent of participants. Being a Freemason gave one, but very valuable advantage - the opportunity to make useful acquaintances in various fields. Kerensky took advantage of this as much as possible. If you analyze the composition of his inner circle at that time, when he will hold various ministerial posts, we will see two groups: on the one hand, young lawyers, on the other - Kerensky’s acquaintances from the Masonic lodges. In this respect, the Masonic experience proved to be very useful.
    Fedyuk V.P. Kerensky. Moscow: Young Guard, ZhZL 2009.
    Who is a professor, Doctor of Historical Sciences Fedyuk can be found on Wikipedia. Tell me where you can read about the author of the article.
    1. +2
      21 July 2017 08: 01
      Quote: Curious
      .. where you can read about the author of the article.

      Your interests are painfully suspicious. What kind of intelligence are we working on? Or is this task set simply for sabotage groups?
      1. +2
        21 July 2017 08: 43
        The whole world community and the Nobel Committee are interested. Excited, such a writer - and without a prize.
        1. +3
          21 July 2017 09: 32
          I heard that the childless Nobel handed over all of his money to the bankers so that they would annually give interest on these funds to anyone who needed it. Only the “who needs it” is decided precisely by those who have these money and keep it, because they actually decide who should be there, in this same Nobel Committee, and those whom they chose usually quite clearly follow the instructions of the financial authorities. Nobel Prizes are not “Khukhra-Mukhra” for you, this is serious, they are usually awarded the most “worthy” of this title, for example: Gorbachev, who defeated the USSR, Obama, the initiator of wars, etc. The question now is: the current US president, Trump, has been in power for half a year now and has not yet launched a war! For such matters, he is not only not worthy of the Nobel Prize, but also quite possibly can lose his presidency, and conversations and preparations are being made on this subject about the possible impeachment of him. These are the things that are happening in our world today.
          1. +1
            21 July 2017 10: 41
            So do you think that the author does not reach this award? Or is he so talented that he is no longer worthy for him?
    2. +1
      21 July 2017 19: 29
      Quote: Curious
      Belonging to the Masons gave one, but a very valuable advantage - the opportunity to make useful contacts in a variety of fields.
      Fedyuk does not write anything here about the purpose of this "ramified network of SEMI-legal organizations", which existed in parallel with the ramified network of legal organizations of social events and events, at which people from different spheres met. What is the valuable advantage of a semi-legal network over a legal one, if not in this “not quite legality”? The mafia also has its own people everywhere, helping to solve various issues.
    3. +1
      21 July 2017 19: 50
      Quote: Curious
      Who is Professor, Doctor of Historical Sciences Fedyuk can be read on Wikipedia
      You can guess who he is by the character he writes of as a “wonderful” person. Hitler’s ZhZL has already been added, no?
  5. +5
    21 July 2017 08: 27
    Kerensky is the past of Russia. And who now fits into its framework? The same thing is happening, only on a larger scale.
    1. avt
      +7
      21 July 2017 14: 50
      Quote: EvgNik
      Kerensky is the past of Russia. And who now fits into its framework?

      Actually, now libertries fit into .... Trotsky. If you discard the communist ideology, the technology of permanent revolution strides the Planet with leaps and bounds with the same revolutionary slogan from the poster of those years from the “commissars in dusty helmets” - “We will humankind humanity with an iron hand.” With the construction of liberalism on every kilometer.
      1. +3
        21 July 2017 17: 42
        Once the “eighteenth” century was somehow forgotten, then the revolution, and even on French bayonets, was rolling happily across Europe under the Military March of the Rhine Army .. And no one condemns something, they say it’s not good, sir .. Maybe because it carried on bayonets, the usual now bourgeois-democratic values ​​.. And few people shed tears on the then deposed autocrats ..
        1. +2
          21 July 2017 18: 05
          Alexey, you're right. We do not remember this. The last 100 years and even less. Sadness.
  6. +3
    21 July 2017 08: 50
    Kerensky = Navalny and state-owned company
  7. +5
    21 July 2017 08: 58
    Kerensky-the ALL-elective deputy of the Constituent Assembly of Russia, in the elections to which she won his party. Yes, he has many mistakes, but he did not stain himself with Brest betrayal and did not unleash a civil massacre.
    He and the VP organized the freest elections in the world — elections to the CSS. Where peacefully ALL questions of Russia — about the world, about land, the structure of the country — should have been resolved — ALL THIS WAS on the agenda of the Assembly, Laws on the land and structure of the country were even ADOPTED! But - the black forces of the true destroyers of Russia destroyed the US.

    And he didn’t lose the popular elections of 1917 and destroy the country in 1991 to the minority (Bolsheviks), whom the people refused to trust, speak and judge "mistakes". The disaster of the state of the 91st year created by them alone and their Russian Cross, after only 70 (!) Years, do not give them such a right.

    It's like a bankrupt would have taught you how to do business, from a debt hole. lol
    1. +7
      21 July 2017 09: 47
      Quote: Olgovich
      .. He (Kerensky) with the EP organized the freest elections in the world - elections in the CSS ..

      It’s very interesting - the foreign funding of the zZzRov party significantly exceeded the funding of the RSDL, and the Bolshevik faction is even smaller. And who, under such conditions, was to win the “freest elections in the world”? Here President Trump has been raped for half a year, everyone is trying to find out: Did Russia help him in the election victory or not? But at A.P. Kerensky’s VP it was simply not appropriate to ask such questions, since not one of the political parties that in the Republic of Ingushetia and during the EP could boast of the lack of funding from abroad, and even from the farthest border, even from overseas. Here it is: "The most free choices"- whoever wants, wants, he can finance them. I'm afraid that in other countries few people can imagine such a situation, even in a dream.
    2. +17
      21 July 2017 09: 56
      Kerensky-NOVELTY elected deputy of the Constituent Assembly of Russia
      He and the VP organized the freest elections in the world - elections to the CSS
      But - the black forces of the true destroyers of Russia destroyed the US.
      A doctor, rather a doctor ... The patient has another exacerbation ... laughing laughing laughing
      For reference, those who live in a parallel world:
      The preparations for the constituent assembly elections began immediately after the February Revolution. However, the Provisional Government of Russia, which, in fact, was called the “Provisional”, which should have acted only before the convening of the Constituent Assembly, was in no hurry to hold elections. June 14, 1917, the election date for the Constituent Assembly was announced September 17, and the convocation of the Constituent Assembly was scheduled for September 30. However, on August 9, the Provisional Government, chaired by A.F. Kerensky, decided to call the elections for November 12, and the convocation of the Constituent Assembly for November 28, 1917.

      olgovich, is it really bad with your head ?!
      1. +3
        21 July 2017 10: 21
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        A doctor, rather a doctor ....
        two weeks ago, for such an expression I received a warning for “insulting” and the comment was deleted.
        A curious reaction this time. Yes
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        olgovich, is it really bad with your head ?!

        Read your comment and try to understand it: WHAT else (except the head) did you want to say? Yes
      2. +4
        21 July 2017 10: 51
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        olgovich, is it really bad with your head ?!

        Yes, do not argue, do not break the buzz. I already took the popcorn. Here Kerensky collects flowers in the sunshine, and Chorny forces ganged up on him. It’s interesting. Before that, I only saw this in the film Kin-Dza-Dza. There, the man looked like Kerensky, all in white, only with a mustache and gray hair. And the black forces are also perfectly shown. “You have already stepped on the second shoot!”, And Chorny forces responded: “I'll take off my respirator right now and breathe in here!”
        Although no, there was still an epic movie “The Lord of the Rings”, but the popular print straightness with which the “black naughty forces” are depicted there exceeds my pain threshold over 300%, so the canonical “Kin-dza-dza” goes better. And here is almost a continuation. We must listen to what will happen next ...
      3. +1
        21 July 2017 20: 19
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        A doctor, rather a doctor ... The patient has another exacerbation ...

        Wai! Why a doctor? (My respect to Diana Hon love hi ) A couple, three medical orderlies - that’s it! For, the patient’s diagnosis is clear, ultimate.
    3. +9
      21 July 2017 10: 03
      Olgovich, I understand that you hate the Bolsheviks, but why engage in fraud? Wow, the losing party of the Bolsheviks, which for six months from March to September the 17th increased its ranks from 20 thousand to 300 thousand people. What other party boasts similar growth over this period? Elections to the Constituent Assembly were not popular at all; less than half of them had the right to vote, they were held in a country where the redistribution in the village had already begun, the majority of the population didn’t give a damn what the deputies decide, there was no longer any faith in them . By the way, during the meeting, the Bolsheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries (whom you defend) left the hall, thus depriving the CSS of the necessary quorum, making it incapable. W and all. If you, Olgovich, while defending the Socialist-Revolutionaries, are in a socialist position, you must recognize the party’s crisis in the 17th. Those Social Revolutionaries, who proudly called themselves the successors of the cause of the People’s Volunteers, did nothing for the peasants in the 17th, by inaction and empty talking more likely provoking the beginning of a “black redistribution”. And in 1991, your idols destroyed the USSR. I don’t remember who said it, but for sure "the communists are over, only party members remain" ..
      1. +15
        21 July 2017 10: 37
        Rastas Today, 10:03 ↑
        Olgovich, I understand that you hate the Bolsheviks, but why engage in fraud?
        You see, olgovich has big problems with consciousness. He furiously defends the wretched monarch of the Romanov dynasty, but he immediately forgets that it was not the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Romanov, but the Februaryists. Then he immediately begins to fiercely defend the Februaryists, who, like Nikolai Romanov, stupidly profiled the country in an even shorter period. How does one fit in his head with the other, I personally do not understand ?!
        Although if you look at the analogy, then Olgovich likes precisely the forces that led Russia to collapse, but the Bolsheviks, who did not let Russia break down, cause him an attack of acute incontinence ... Conclusion, this individual likes those who either mediocrity, or purposefully contributed to the collapse of Russia! Something like this!
        1. +7
          21 July 2017 11: 00
          Diana! hi love all our troubles are from extreme positions. monarchism - at some point it was needed as a historical formation, but had outlived itself by the beginning of the century. but our monarchists stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this fact. There were two alternatives - in fact, a bourgeois republic, and after all, everything went to that, but the mediocrity of figures such as Kerensky (and maybe betrayal) missed this opportunity. and the second is a country of advice that was unexpected at that time. the Bolsheviks took power and disposed of it well, why, God knows, they accuse them of starting a civil war is not clear.
          1. +13
            21 July 2017 11: 15
            romance66 Today, 11:00 ↑
            Diana! hi love all our troubles - from extreme positions. monarchism - at some point was needed as a historical formation
            Roma hi love , so I also adhere to this position. I don’t scold Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Elizabeth Petrovna, Catherine the Great ?! And why? Yes, because they were historically in their place, they did a lot for the greatness of Russia, although they were terrible exploiters. The question is where the efforts of the exploited were directed. If for the good and prosperity of Russia, this is one thing, but if as with the same bloody Nicholas on the collapse, this is completely different. I am simply surprised at the choice of an idol for the worship of modern bakers ... Well, you must agree to worship the most worthless king, who spoiled the entire legacy of his dynasty, who lost the two wars, brought the country to three revolutions, ditched millions of lives for no reason ...?! It's how fool need to be ?!
            I objectively look at historical processes and the fact that the Bolsheviks ultimately picked up power, which simply lay under their feet, I consider historically fair reality. But all sorts of Olgovichi, Teterins, Romanovs and other lovers of crunching a bun and crying for Russia that we lost, live in some sort of parallel dimension, completely out of touch with real ...
            1. +6
              21 July 2017 11: 30
              and the bun crunched - how much? and the rest of kvass and spanking at the stable
              1. +5
                21 July 2017 11: 58
                Quote: novel xnumx
                and the bun crunched - how much? and the rest of kvass and spanking at the stable

                The bread of this notorious just crunched those who smacked, it was cheap and affordable. But the representatives of the exploiters (as you call them) ate in a completely different way.
                In Russia, there was a classic four-course dinner. After each meal, the table was set again. The table was decorated with flowers and fruits.
                And you are talking about some French bun, servile this thing.
            2. +1
              21 July 2017 21: 28
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Roma, so I also adhere to this position. I don’t scold Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Elizabeth Petrovna, Catherine the Great ?! And why? Yes, because they were historically in their place, they did a lot for the greatness of Russia, although they were terrible exploiters. The question is where the efforts of the exploited were directed. If for the good and prosperity of Russia ...

              Diana, everything is simpler and more complicated than your subjective preferences. Objective processes, their mother! Remember about the “correspondence of the economic basis and the political superstructure”, about the “tops can’t, the lower classes don’t want" .... Ivan 4 and Petr1, in fact, made a "revolution from above" (the first began, the second tried to finish). Under Elizaveta Petrovna and Catherine the Great, everything was already almost magnificent: the "tops" could, the "bottom" wanted, a superstructure almost corresponded to the basis ... i.e. nor any reason for the inner kyatt (large (uzb)) climate was not. And to Nikolai take 2, by the efforts of the predecessors, everything went to the smash - the base, superstructure, tops, bottoms and, above all, myrrh-streaming (Tsar Rag), to the heap.
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I am simply surprised at the choice of an idol for the worship of modern bakers ... Well, you must agree to worship the most worthless king, who spoiled the entire legacy of his dynasty, who lost the two wars, brought the country to three revolutions, ditched millions of lives for no reason ...?! What is it to be ?!

              Keyword "Bolsheviks". Well, they’re not monarchists, by and large. They are, and how the monarchy is structured with difficulty imagine. It would be more correct to call them: "The sect of the Witnesses Nicholas the Myrrh-streaming, innocently killed by the Bolsheviks!" wassat laughing
        2. +3
          21 July 2017 11: 49
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Romanov was not overthrown by the Bolsheviks, but by the Februaryists

          But the Leader of all leaders, athletes and other masses, in the Short Course of VKPBEY writes:
          Tsarism was clearly experiencing a mortal crisis.
          The bourgeoisie thought to resolve the crisis through a palace coup.
          But the people resolved it in their own way.
          Practice guide bolshevik party carried out in
          this time, the Bureau of the Central Committee of our party was in Petrograd. "The revolution was carried out by the proletariat, he showed heroism, he shed
          blood, he carried with him the widest masses of the working and the poorest
          population ... ", - wrote Lenin in the early days of the revolution (Lenin, vol. XX, p. 23
          - 24).

          Or the Leader is also not an authority ?! belay request What is going on, what is going on! lol
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            1. +1
              21 July 2017 13: 17
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              The question is for those who can’t get off the armored train: in which month they overthrew Nikolai Romanov ?! Where was Ulyanov Lenin at that moment ?! What does the Bolshevik party have to do with the February revolution ?!

              I am patiently teaching: my quotation is from "Brief of course VKPBEE) "- about FEBRUARY revolution.
              It was released in 1938 and PERSONALLY edited, partially written and approved by the Leader of all masses.
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              The very last brains drank

              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Your rotten rotten meat

              No, this is not a violation of the VO Rules. " Insult, rudeness". Yes
              .
              Polite and, most importantly, purelyfeminine. lol
              1. +11
                21 July 2017 14: 03
                Olgovich Today, 13: 17 ↑
                Patiently teaching
                You will teach your grandmother how to cook borscht ... tongue
                my quotation
                Himself still to study and learn ... The topic of the singular and plural, you probably skipped school?
                from the Short Course of VKPBEE) - about the FEBRUARY revolution.
                This is not a quote, but a cut from quotes, skillfully tailored to your FALSE! And you know this very well, such a hoax on the Internet is the sea. Phrases are taken, pulled out of context, cut in the right order and put up for the truth in the last resort ...
                It was released in 1938 and PERSONALLY edited, partially written and approved by the Leader of all masses.
                I am sure 200 percent that you did not read it, but brought another campaign. How it is stuck together I have already described above. And you know very well that you can’t quickly check your words. To do this, you need to get into the library, and far from everyone there is a “Short course of the AUCPB” and the pages in this short course will be unmeasured, and accordingly it will not be possible to find the right quote. So you are lying like Trotsky ... laughing tongue
                No, no, this is not a violation of the Rules of VO "Insult, rudeness." yes
                This is not an insult or rudeness, it is a direct statement of what you are doing in VO, namely, rotten FALSE and rotten provocation! negative
                Polite and, most importantly, purely feminine. lol
                At the moment, I'm just the top of courtesy towards the liar and provocateur olgovich!

                So, as they said in one famous film: "Dad your place is there ... near (you know what)" ... laughing laughing laughing
                1. +1
                  21 July 2017 15: 00
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  from the Short Course of VKPBEE) - about the FEBRUARY revolution.
                  This is not a quote, but a cut from quotes, skillfully tailored to your FALSE!

                  It would seem, well, what is easier to take and read by yourself?
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I am sure 200 percent that you did not read it, but brought another campaign. How it is stuck together I have already described above

                  Why do I need it?! It’s just INTERESTING to me and therefore I read the primary sources, and not someone’s opinions and explanations.
                  I suggest you, it will take exactly 1 minute: the text of the 6th chapter of the Course: http: //www.lib.ru/DIALEKTIKA/kr_vkpb.txt lol
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  what are you doing .. rotten FALSE and rotten

                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  to the liar and provocateur olgovich!

                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  your place there ... near (you know why) "...


                  And you are all beautiful and beautiful! Yes lol
                  And yet? Yes
                  1. +10
                    21 July 2017 15: 42
                    Olgovich Today, 15:00 ↑ New
                    I suggest that you take exactly 1 minute: the text of the 6th chapter of the Course: http: //www.lib.ru/DIALEKTIKA/kr_vkpb.txt lol
                    Well...?! I read it. Nowhere did I find mention that the Bolsheviks had overthrown the tsar! You must probably have a perverted mind like yours so that in this
                    When the news of the victory of the revolution in Petrograd spread to others
                    cities and at the front, workers and soldiers everywhere began to overthrow the royal
                    officials.
                    The February bourgeois-democratic revolution triumphed.
                    The revolution triumphed because the working class was a gunman
                    revolution and led the movement of millions of peasants dressed in
                    soldiers' overcoats - "for peace, 169 for bread, for freedom." Hegemony
                    the proletariat determined the success of the revolution.

                    "The revolution was carried out by the proletariat, he showed heroism, he shed
                    blood, he carried with him the widest masses of the working and the poorest
                    population ... ", - wrote Lenin in the early days of the revolution (Lenin, vol. XX, p. 23
                    - 24).
                    to see that the Bolsheviks overthrew Nikolai Romanov ... request fool You really have problems with logic, and with vision, and with the perception of the world ... fool
                    And by the way, about lol , laughs the one who laughs last ... At the beginning of 1917, hardly any of the bloodsucker bourgeois guessed that they would "laugh" when sweeping the streets of Paris or waving the doorman in restaurants in Montmartre ... laughing tongue laughing
                    1. +4
                      21 July 2017 15: 49
                      Star VO, lovely Diana! love love love Right word, you are magnificent! Here you read the comments of some inadequate, sometimes you want to insert a different word, but after your rebuffs, God even has nothing to add. recourse Glad to see you in good health and in a fighting mood Diana the hunter! hi love
                      1. +10
                        21 July 2017 15: 55
                        Alexey hi love , thank! It is always nice to receive compliments!
                        Glad to see each other! love
                    2. +3
                      21 July 2017 16: 09
                      This is VKPBE Course:
                      "Revolution made proletariat, he showed heroism he spilled

                      Now we read you:
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Romanov was not overthrown by the Bolsheviks, but Februaryists
                      Is this yours?
                      So WHO overthrew: The Februaryists, yes?fool lol
                      Or was the Leader wrong ?! belay
                      And here is what he writes there:
                      While Bolsheviks led the direct struggle of the masses on the streets, compromising parties, Mensheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries seized parliamentary seats in the Soviets, forming their majority in them.

                      Who led the proletariat, huh? Again the Leader, um, the masses, did not live up to your hopes ...lol
                      PS So WHERE do I think
                      Phrases are taken, pulled out of context, cut in the right order and put up for the truth in the last resort ...
                      , but? lol
                      1. +12
                        21 July 2017 16: 33
                        Sorry but talk to the round fool fool fool , it's like with a wall, the effect is the same! If you do not see elementary causal relationships between those who made the February Revolution and those who ended up in power, then request Here, even medicine is powerless, only a lobotomy ... And then your pathetic attempts to humiliate the Bolsheviks by writing "VKPBE" look ridiculous, the pupils of the kindergarten compared to you negative look like Einsteins ...
                        Then go through the forest ... tongue
            2. +1
              22 July 2017 08: 24
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Sorry, but talking with a round one is like a wall, the effect is the same! If you don’t see elementary causal relationships between the one who made the February Revolution and the one who ended up in power, then even medicine is powerless, only a lobotomy ... And then your pathetic attempts to humiliate the Bolsheviks by writing “VKPBE” look ridiculous kindergarten in comparison with you look like Einsteins ...
              Then go through the forest ...

              So, Comrade Diana, they poked you in Leader rating all sorts of masses, and she doesn’t speak of the Februaryists who overthrew the monarchy, but of the Bolsheviks who led the proletariat in the overthrow of the monarchy.
              And besides insults in a futile attempt to offend me, you are not able to say anything.
              Teach STALIN- in his assessment of the overthrow of the Romanov monarchy! lol Yes fool
        3. avt
          +3
          21 July 2017 18: 08
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Although if you look at the analogy, then Olgovich likes precisely the forces that led Russia to collapse, but the Bolsheviks, who did not let Russia break up, cause him an attack of acute incontinence ... Conclusion,

          what Perhaps there is no way to get along without classics and you need to look carefully somehow,
          According to Deleuze, sadomasochism is a poorly cobbled-up term-chimera, a semiological monster. Sadism and masochism are not complementary phenomena and not mutual denials. Masochism is not sadism directed at oneself. They have a fundamentally different essence. The basis of sadism is crime, masochism is a contract, consent. Sacher-Masoch concluded such contracts with both his first wife Aurora von Ryumelin (better known as Wanda von Sacher-Masoch) and with his mistress Fanny von Pistor, giving himself into slavery on very detailed terms.
          bully
          1. +1
            22 July 2017 08: 39
            Quote: avt
            Perhaps there is no way to get along without classics and you need something like that watch carefully here
            .

            Who is watching? Who
            Quote: avt
            sadomasochism
            sees one with green little devils on a chandelier as a friend Yes
      2. +3
        21 July 2017 10: 55
        Quote: Rastas
        but why engage in fraud?

        WHAT is the juggling? Refute the FACTS.
        Quote: Rastas
        Elections to the Constituent Assembly were not any popular

        It is the People’s and recognized as such by ALL, including Bolsheviks who came to the meeting of the CSS.
        Your “non-recognition” is the least, which is interesting and authoritative.
        Quote: Rastas
        during the meeting, the Bolsheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries (whom you defend) left the hall, thus depriving the CSS of the necessary quorum, making it incapable. Tue and all

        And who stayed if the Social Revolutionaries left? lol Find at least somewhere the word "quorum" in the documents of the EP about CSS or the so-called. Council of People's Commissars. Or his mention in the criminal decree of Ulyanov about dispersal, as the reasons for dispersal and legal incapacity. Have you found? No? That's all.
        Quote: Rastas
        The Socialist-Revolutionaries, who proudly called themselves the successors of the cause of the People’s Volunteers, did nothing for the peasants in the 17th, inaction and empty talker provoked the actual start of a “black redistribution”.

        They organized the CSS which was AUTHORIZED, AUTHORIZED by the people and passed the Earth Law.
        Quote: Rastas
        And in 1991, your idols destroyed the USSR. I don’t remember who said it, but for sure "the communists are over, only party members remain" ..

        Yours idols destroyed their country sole 70 years of activity, others were NOT. By the way, where did "mind" go? fool honor and conscience angry of our era "? lol
        1. +3
          21 July 2017 15: 15
          Why, Olgovich, fall into casuistry? If the Bolsheviks or monarchists declared a popular assembly, then you need to look at the real facts, and not just statements. When the people themselves begin to solve their problems on the ground, as it was from February 17th, organizing themselves in the Soviets, the CSS cannot solve anything, there is no sense in it, because there is no trust in these people. Well, an example of modernity. Until the 14th year in the Donbass, there were their own local authorities, the governor, but they were swept away and no one cried for them, because the elections do not give you a full imperative mandate, people must be held accountable for failure to fulfill their duties. And the quorum in CSS was 400 people. And after the departure of part of the Socialist-Revolutionaries and Bolsheviks, 275 remained. And the dispute on it was between the two paths of SOCIALIST development — between the Socialist-Revolutionary and the Bolshevik programs, for the Bolsheviks owned 25% of the seats, the Mensheviks - 5%, the Socialist-Revolutionaries (right and left) - 54%, right parties - 16%.
          1. +1
            21 July 2017 16: 21
            Quote: Rastas
            Why, Olgovich, fall into casuistry?

            These are objective FACTS, not casuistry. To refute which you are not able to.
            Quote: Rastas
            When the people themselves begin to solve their problems on the ground, as it was from February 17th, organizing themselves in the Soviets, then the Constitutional Council cannot solve anything, there is no sense in it, because there is no trust in these people

            These are YOUR assessments, maybe even some parts, but the PEOPLE decided at the ELECTIONS, which the Bolsheviks lost, but dispersed the DC and thereby unleashed the civil massacre.

            It was necessary and possible to solve - at the ELECTIONS and in the MEETING ROOM, and not in battles. Isn’t it obvious?
            Quote: Rastas
            And the argument on it was between the two paths of SOCIALIST development — between the Socialist-Revolutionary and Bolshevik programs, for the Bolsheviks owned 25% of the seats, the Mensheviks-5%, the Socialist-Revolutionaries (right and left) - 54%, the right parties - 16%

            Socialist-Revolutionaries and decide (taking into account the opinions of others) -and war and peace and land-WITHOUT millions of victims and enemies of the people.
            Quote: Rastas
            . And the quorum in CSS was 400 people. And after the departure of part of the Socialist Revolutionaries and the Bolsheviks, 275 remained.

            Even Ulyanov did not dare this bullshit write in a decree on dispersal of the CSS. It is already post-Soviet nonsense.

            What did the Bolsheviks promise voters in the elections to the CSS? -work inSt. with other elected deputies. What did they do? ACCELERATED US, that is, they deceived their voters. And half of the rsdrpbee party was against (there were decent people there too).
            1. +1
              21 July 2017 17: 21
              whom did the Bolsheviks deceive? Which voters? The Bolsheviks never concealed that the goal was to establish Soviet power; the CSS was no place there. So realizing that the DC is an empty talking room, they left it. The CSS did not have any chances; the situation in the country was not the one to speak up problems. And in general, Olgovich, you don’t need to go under the guise of someone else. And then you, the monarchists, then the U.S. defend, in which socialists you hate argued among themselves, then stand up for Tambov peasants and Kronstadt sailors, although they spoke under hated revolutionary slogans.
              1. +1
                22 July 2017 08: 40
                Quote: Rastas
                whom did the Bolsheviks deceive? Which voters?


                YOU ARE UNLIMITED.
                Further, it makes no sense to talk. Learn FACTS first.
      3. +3
        21 July 2017 13: 52
        Rastas
        Olgovich, I understand that you hate the Bolsheviks, but why engage in fraud?
        ... Do not break the buzz man, really wink Typically, the Constituent elections were held by the Bolsheviks, after the October Revolution, with the Bolsheviks, the first meeting was held in 1918, and they dispersed it, in principle, it is true when the power of the Soviets was proclaimed, why another parallel authority .. They did not repeat the mistakes of the VP .. even Wikipedia says more about this ...
        1. +1
          21 July 2017 14: 17
          Quote: parusnik
          characteristically, the Constituent elections were held by the Bolsheviks, after the October Revolution, with the Bolsheviks and the first meeting was held in 1918, they dispersed it

          It is characteristic that the Bolsheviks called the cause of the October putsch ... the prolongation by the Government of elections to the Constitutional Court. And his so-called Council of People's Commissars "was called TEMPORARY before US. And all their" decrees "were called TEMPORARY before the approval of the US.
          The elections were held within the terms and dates approved by the TEMPORARY GOVERNMENT and were held by HIS election commissions. At gunpoint, yes. By the way, in the Don, Ukraine, Orenburg, etc. -The Bolsheviks also spent .. fool lol

          What did the Bolsheviks promise voters in the elections to the CSS? -work in CSS- with other elected deputies. What did they do? ACCELERATED US, that is, they deceived their voters. And half of the rsdrpbee party was against (there were decent people there too).
      4. +1
        21 July 2017 20: 12
        Quote: Rastas
        By the way, during the meeting Bolsheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries (which you defend), left the room, thus depriving the DC of the necessary quorum,

        That's right: the Bolsheviks and those who joined them, "Left Social Revolutionaries". For, the party of the Socialist Revolutionaries, who won the elections in the U.S., during the play, fell into two parties ...
    4. +5
      21 July 2017 10: 16
      Quote: Olgovich
      But - the black forces of the true destroyers of Russia destroyed the US.

      Horror, horror! The phrase is magnificent, I’ll take it into service. good
      1. +5
        21 July 2017 11: 01
        cast in bronze and on the palace square!
        1. +2
          21 July 2017 12: 25
          Bronze will be torn into souvenirs, something must be firmer.
      2. +2
        21 July 2017 11: 01
        Quote: Alex_59
        Quote: Olgovich
        But- black forces true destroyers of Russia destroyed US.

        Horror, horror! The phrase is magnificent, I’ll take it into service. good

        Things you need to know! Yes How so?! "Varshavyanka "-favourite song Ulyanova!.
        1. +2
          21 July 2017 12: 54
          Quote: Olgovich
          "Varshavyanka" is Ulyanov's favorite song !.

          No, one of Lenin’s favorite opera motifs was the aria from The Queen of Spades, I love you, I love immensely, without you I can not imagine a day to live ..... (Herman’s aria), he often whistled this motive. Moreover, these are not my fantasies, but according to the memoirs of M.I. Ulyanova, the source deserves trust.
          In short, he whistled, and left the masses to leave Varshavyanka.
          1. +2
            21 July 2017 13: 46
            Quote: bober1982
            No, one of Lenin’s favorite opera motifs was the aria from The Queen of Spades, - I love you, I love you immensely, I can’t imagine a day without you ..... (Herman’s aria)

            This is from another opera, sorry for the pun. Varshavyanka loved to sing at parties. lol
            He also loved Appassionata and spoke of its impact on him: -
            But often I can’t listen to music, it gets on my nerves, I want cute nonsense to talk and pat on the heads of people who, living in a dirty hell, can create such beauty. And today, nobody can be stroked on the head - they will bite off the hand, and must beat on the heads, beat ruthlessly,
            1. +2
              21 July 2017 13: 56
              Maybe Turgenev was mistaken, and therefore he had such thoughts, Lenin was a passionate admirer of Ivan Sergeyevich, “O my youth, my freshness” /
              Mayakovsky, by the way, was called a pea jester, again left to the same masses. Such is the crystal-baked life.
    5. +1
      21 July 2017 14: 37
      Today, two articles devoted to the 100th anniversary of the formation of Kerensky.
      And the other day there was 75 years since the end of the heroic defense of Sevastopol.
      Unprecedented in the heroism and dedication of our soldiers and sailors, in their significance for the war, in the uniqueness of the operation, in the horror of betrayal by the defense command of their subordinates, who fulfilled their duty to the end.
      Where did you remember this, except for Sevastopol? On the 35th battery on a mournful day on July 4 93 body defenders Sevastopol. We must talk about this ...

      And you need to remember EVERYWHERE-to pay tribute to the best citizens of the Fatherland ....
      1. +2
        21 July 2017 15: 12
        Yes, Olgovich! That rare occasion. that I completely agree with you regarding the fact that the fallen soldiers must be remembered.
      2. +3
        21 July 2017 15: 21
        The defense of Sevastopol 1941-1942 does not concern you too much, because the Red Army that you hate for you fought there. The Red Navy for such views would raise you up with bayonets, as in the 17th, if only they would talk about the damned Bolshevik ghouls. So do not get on. By the way, many monarchists, like ardent patriots, naturally blessed Hitler for the war against the hated Bolshevik Russia.
        1. +1
          21 July 2017 16: 40
          Quote: Rastas
          The defense of Sevastopol 1941-1942 does not concern you too much, because the red army that you hate for you fought there

          RUSSIA fought there against foreigners, as well as the whole thousand years before. My grandfather defended Odessa, Rostov, the Caucasus and liberated Odessa and Chisinau. Another fought also in Finnish. So do not touch with yours what is not yours.
          Quote: Rastas
          The Red Navy for such views would raise you up with bayonets, as in the 17th, if only they would talk about the damned Bolshevik ghouls.
          Make it a habit to speak on YOUR behalf and without the fictitious “BE”.
          Quote: Rastas
          So don't get on

          This is for you.
          Quote: Rastas
          By the way, many monarchists, like ardent patriots, naturally blessed Hitler for the war against the hated Bolshevik Russia.

          Soviet citizens on the side of Hitler were hundreds of thousands-Much more monarchists. Yes
          1. +1
            21 July 2017 17: 28
            Hundreds of thousands is an exaggeration. There were enough traitors, especially when there was a question of survival, they wanted to surrender to the new government. In the same democratic France, more Frenchmen fought on the side of the Nazis than against. In%, there were more monarchists on the side of Hitler than Soviet people out of the total.
          2. +1
            21 July 2017 22: 54
            Quote: Olgovich
            My grandfather defended Odessa, Rostov, the Caucasus and liberated Odessa and Chisinau. Another fought also in Finnish. So do not touch with yours what is not yours.

            Your grandfathers attack, you see, rose, humming: "God save the king"? Otherwise, it is difficult to understand how, from their seed, such a guano grew.
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    6. MrK
      +5
      21 July 2017 16: 34
      Quote: Olgovich
      Kerensky is the Nationwide elected deputy of the Constituent Assembly of Russia, in the elections to which his party won

      After Kolchak’s execution of the majority of elected members of the Constitutional Council, it’s hardly possible even to Olgovich to say something about their role
      1. +1
        22 July 2017 08: 55
        Quote: mrark
        Quote: Olgovich
        Kerensky is the Nationwide elected deputy of the Constituent Assembly of Russia, in the elections to which his party won

        After being shot by Kolchak most elected members of the CSS to say something about their role can hardly even Olgovich

        You are illiterate, alas. By the way, what does Kurlandchik say about this? lol
  8. +3
    21 July 2017 09: 26
    Quote: Olgovich

    It's like a bankrupt would have taught you how to do business, from a debt hole. lol

    It is ridiculous, especially when the “non-bankrupt” turns to the “bankrupt” for help, he has nothing to stop the 3 cavalry corps and the “Wild” division, a rebellion in the SEC, and the naval minister can only show cookies.
  9. +3
    21 July 2017 12: 23
    Here Kerensky the scoundrel, invented the Union republics, distributed the Russian lands to many of these republics, destroyed the Cossacks, distributed the lands of the Cossacks to all whom he wanted. He unleashed the Civil War and invited internationalists to it, invented collective farms, deported several peoples of Russia, arranged dispossession, plundered churches ..... he transplanted all the famous aircraft designers and creators of nuclear weapons. sent to prison Rokossovsky, Meretskov, Gorbatov ... put forward Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevarnadze, Krachuk ... what a villain.
    1. +4
      21 July 2017 13: 48
      Quote: captain
      Here Kerensky the scoundrel, invented the Union republics, distributed the Russian lands to many of these republics, destroyed the Cossacks, distributed the lands of the Cossacks to all whom he wanted. He unleashed the Civil War and invited internationalists to it, invented collective farms, deported several peoples of Russia, arranged dispossession, plundered churches ..... he transplanted all the famous aircraft designers and creators of nuclear weapons. sent to prison Rokossovsky, Meretskov, Gorbatov ... put forward Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevarnadze, Krachuk ... what a villain.

      Exactly he, Kerensky! good
    2. +2
      21 July 2017 14: 21
      Quote: captain
      Here is Kerensky the villain ..

      Here is the question: in this matter it is important to “let the tide”, and then, as the unforgettable MS Gorbachev used to say: “The process has begun!”. That is, the investigation with the consequences is obtained accordingly. It doesn’t matter who and what will go on farther, the defeat processes cannot be stopped already, and the main responsibility should lie with the one who brewed all this, and not with countless followers, although they should also answer to their own guilt, but it is not the main but derivative , just like that circumstances. By the way, “Baltic States” and “Finland” were invented even under the tsarist regime. Who should be responsible for this?
      1. 0
        21 July 2017 17: 32
        Look at the full office or the title of the anointed of God; not only Poland and Finland are present there.
    3. +1
      21 July 2017 23: 00
      Quote: captain
      Here Kerensky the scoundrel, invented the Union republics, distributed the Russian lands to many of these republics, destroyed the Cossacks, distributed the lands of the Cossacks to all whom he wanted. He unleashed the Civil War and invited internationalists to it, invented collective farms, deported several peoples of Russia, arranged dispossession, plundered churches ..... he transplanted all the famous aircraft designers and creators of nuclear weapons. sent to prison Rokossovsky, Meretskov, Gorbatov ... put forward Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevarnadze, Krachuk ... what a villain.

      The worst thing from this: "Cossacks destroyed", is not it? lol
  10. +3
    21 July 2017 19: 21
    Another masterpiece from the pen of our newfangled author caused another seething of a well-known substance. Some well-known politicians propose to nominate the author with a Nobel Prize, and for me it should be awarded the Darwin Prize (with all the ensuing consequences). Any sane person has a question: is it worth discussing another conspiracy theory of the world government? In my opinion, a platform for discussing such a thing should be reserved exclusively for Saint Benjamin and the other 14 comrades "frostbitten". One gets the feeling that they consider themselves not quite full-fledged, constantly looking for enemies that prevented them from living happily. They are looking for great ancestors in ancient times (do you have that gentlemen have no normal relatives?).
  11. +2
    21 July 2017 19: 21
    Is there something not to hear citizen Romanov, a great admirer of French rolls and the monarchy, or does he burn only for the Bolsheviks who saved the country from death, and does not burn for boats from the families of the “czars” who staged the February revolution of 1917?
  12. +2
    21 July 2017 20: 35
    Thanks to Alexander Samsonov for filling the gaps in historical knowledge. Previously, it was believed that the Bolsheviks were mainly engaged in the collapse of the Imperial Army.
    1. +1
      21 July 2017 23: 56
      It is sad that Mr. Samsonov fills your gaps.
      1. +2
        22 July 2017 00: 04
        Quote: mar4047083
        It is sad that Mr. Samsonov fills your gaps.
        Are you purely grieving, or essentially something you wanted to say?
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