Examples of ethnic hatred in the former USSR

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Speaking of interethnic disunity, it is worth paying attention to the roots of its manifestation. Does it arise on economic grounds or is it a tool for raising some politicians over others? The national question today determines the maturity of society. If grain of racial, national, confessional discord appears on the territory of the state, then sooner or later it will, at best, lead to a change in the country's leadership, at worst - to its fragmentation, accompanied by bloody strife.

On the territory of the former Soviet Union, a sufficient number of states emerged in which the national question surfaced. Let us try to figure out what the growth of interethnic tension in the life of modern society depends on. There are several judgments on this score, the main one of which tells us that the higher the level of welfare of the state and the higher the level of education, the less chance there is to cultivate interethnic and interfaith strife. We can partly agree with this opinion, but, apparently, as in any rule, there are some exceptions. Continuing to consider the countries formed after the collapse of the USSR, it suffices to look at the Baltic states, where, with a relatively high standard of living and social culture, national issues remain unresolved. In this case, the promise of forcing disunity comes not from the Baltic people themselves, but is sent from above. In other words, the state authorities are trying to do everything to sow discord forever between Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians on the one hand, and Russians, who live in Latvia alone up to 27% of the total population, on the other. The only thing that needs to be acknowledged is: inter-ethnic conflicts in the Baltic states rarely enter the “hot” phase. The matter is either in the national mentality of Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians, or that the “values ​​of the European Union” still stand above national interests, and therefore the Baltic authorities simply and skillfully designed the violation of the rights and freedoms of national minorities at the legislative level. The notorious concept of "non-citizen" today is the main "achievement" of the Baltic democracy, which can be called ethnocracy, when all laws are adopted only by the so-called titular nation and for the titular nation. Is this not one of the theses of the ideology of fascism, when the titular nation defines, as they say, both being and consciousness.

The thesis of the manifestation of ethnic hostility, based on the economic foundation, falls, for example, Kyrgyzstan. It would seem that the new president, who received the majority of votes already in the first round of 1 elections in December 2011, should first of all begin to consolidate society and resolve interethnic conflicts that excite the republic for a long period of time. However, Atambaev is somehow not getting along either inside the country or outside its borders. For three and a half months of Almazbek Atambayev’s staying at the helm of the Kyrgyz state, the clashes between individual national groups did not only cease, but even intensified. Only at the end of December, local law enforcement officers had to fix 2011 with a dozen clashes between representatives of different nationalities living in Kyrgyzstan. Among other conflicts, we can mention the clash between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks in the Osh region, when local police officers could not calm down the raging crowd. Another case of large-scale clashes occurred in the now well-known village of Mayevka, located near Bishkek. First, “fighting without rules” broke out between the Kyrgyz and people from the Caucasus, and then Russian residents of the village were involved in the conflict.

The conflict has spread to other parts of Kyrgyzstan. Incidents arising on a national basis began to manifest themselves throughout Kyrgyzstan: a massacre between Kyrgyz and Tajiks in the village of Andarak, a major fight with the use of "tools of the proletariat" between the Kyrgyz and Darghins in the village of Zhany-Zher. Kyrgyzstan was overwhelmed by a wave of ethnic clashes in 2012, too. The Kyrgyz Security Committee announced the shocking evidence that there are about a hundred and half hotbeds of ethnic conflicts on the country's territory on an almost constant basis, and this number, the saddest thing, is not decreasing. Shamil Atakhanov, the head of the State Clinical Hospital of Kyrgyzstan, singled out 29 particularly dangerous conflict zones from the indicated number, most of which are located in the Batken region, where clashes between ethnic Uzbeks and Kyrgyz do not cease (each 7 is an Uzbek resident). In connection with the actual accusations against him, the head of the administration (governor) of the Batken region, Arzybek Burkhanov, hastened to state that it is foolish to look for those guilty of unleashing conflicts in Kyrgyzstan, when the majority of citizens live below the poverty line. Indeed, the standard of living in Kyrgyzstan today is extremely low. The annual GDP per capita of Kyrgyzstan is no more than 1000 dollars according to estimates by the IMF and the World Bank. Local counting authorities give a figure slightly different from this indicator. The economy of Kyrgyzstan today is on the 135 place in the world, “losing” even to the economy of a state like Papua New Guinea. And despite the fact that in Kyrgyzstan only the tourism sector can bring huge revenues to the local treasury.
Today, the interethnic problems of Kyrgyzstan can and should be solved by purely economic methods. When about 60% of the population, according to sociological forecasts, do not believe that life will soon turn for the better, it is difficult to resolve interethnic disputes. But Atambayev cannot continue to look at the intrastate discord, otherwise the fate of Bakiev’s predecessor will be waiting for him.

This is not to say that ethnic conflicts do not appear in Russia. It is enough to recall the example of the murder of a football fan, as it becomes clear that Russian society is also in a painful state in terms of attempts to radically resolve interethnic disputes. The worst thing is that we have recently become accustomed to identifying criminals by their nationality. The notorious phrase “Chechen terrorists” for civilians in the Chechen Republic sounds as frightening as “Russian barbarians” or “Russian invaders” for us. Sometimes it’s very difficult to separate flies from cutlets. It is difficult to realize that every nation has its own killers, rapists, war criminals and corrupt officials. And it is absolutely counterproductive to believe that all the problems of a city or town are in migration flows. Of course, the problem of large-scale resettlement has a place to be, and it is pointless to abandon it, but the resettlement of peoples is historical a process that has been observed at all times. The free movement of peoples is one of the signs of civilization. You can, of course, use the new concrete walls and barbed-wire fences to separate national minorities and ethnic groups, but is this really a way out for the modern state.

There is a way out, in fact, and it consists not only in increasing the well-being of citizens of our countries and raising the level of education, but also in preventing attempts to search for new anti-heroes among other nations. Of course, it is much more difficult to build than to destroy and edify, but it is in the joint creation that lies the main cure for interethnic hostility.
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  1. +6
    7 March 2012 09: 01
    Volodya, I welcome and thank you for such an article! The search for the origins and essence of the causes of ethnic hatred is neither new nor simple! But, your conclusion is wonderful! Plus buddy!
    1. +13
      7 March 2012 13: 21
      Greetings, Valery! Indeed, there are many sources and causes .... The problem can be reduced to one phrase“All happy families are equally happy, each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”
      As in the breakup of a family, when you’re tired of living together and unbearable, mutual complaints and threats of divorce appear at first, and when you divorced, it turns out that living separately without a family becomes even worse and the sharing of forks and spoons and a swar again begins with mutual reproaches and insults, which we observe the divorce of the family of the peoples of the USSR and then Russia.
      The recipe is simple as in life - the family must have a strong, caring, respected CHAPTER FAMILY able to protect it and increase prosperity. in the person of the Russian people whom I believe will rise from the stove as Ilya Muromets and again shoulder the historically predetermined role of the core of the Eurasian Empire of peoples in its living space.
      A little pathetic but it is so, let me be accused again of great-power chauvinism by various Bandera and God's chosen trolls.
      1. +9
        7 March 2012 16: 43
        Hello gentlemen.

        I will add .... with your permission ... "There is, in fact, a way out, and it consists ..." - lies in the strict observance of laws, in the most severe eradication of "telephone" and other "left" rights.
        Citizens are not divided into "Russian", "Yakut", "Tokhar" or whatever. Separately, "advanced" states have found a way - they have citizens - they are called "non-citizen". Well, that's why they are "advanced" - with the mind.
        Russia, so far - an ordinary, normal state. And let the LAW prevail everywhere, and not concepts.
        I think so.
      2. slas
        +2
        7 March 2012 21: 41
        Quote: Ascetic
        A little pathetic but it is so, let me be accused again of great-power chauvinism by various Bandera and God's chosen trolls.

        Normally, High urinate against anger * Banderotrollobita * recourse
      3. Marat
        +9
        7 March 2012 22: 03
        I fully support, Ascetic! You Russians are obliged to shake off liberals, masons, Natsiks and other husks and remember that you, as the largest people of the country, are responsible for our Eurasian Empire - and we can quickly reunite it only if there is a people and culture that play the role of nucleus
        Most of the people in the republics of the former USSR did not want the collapse of the Union and now they want integration (excluding 3-4 republics)
        There’s nothing even to say about our republic - both the people and the authorities are striving for reunification with Belarus and Russia
  2. in4ser
    +3
    7 March 2012 09: 30
    And if in one word - it is called BATTLE !!!
    the southern suburbs are told that the Muscovite is to blame for all the troubles, and the opposite is the case for the Moscow suburbs.
    + external factors, such as a million agents working on the same - to pit-quarrel- to make enemies- to split !!!
    1. Perseus
      +6
      7 March 2012 11: 22
      The main thing is, all the same, I consider the level of education, moreover, education is real and not just the presence of a "crust", because it's no secret that the dumber the person, the easier it is to manage him. Our disagreements, in particular with the Caucasian peoples, have reached the point that even some Muslims write that "Russia has no ethnic problems, Russia has a problem of Caucasians", this is really sad, given that this is an extremely important region for our country. there are good and bad peoples, but there are good or bad moods and notions accepted in society, everyone says that terrorism in the Caucasus is due to a poor standard of living, but you never know in Russia people who live badly, because in other regions they do not run around mountains with a machine gun until in their society, this cult of thieves and gangster life will be down to earth, there will always be problems, any economic problem responds there with a surge of terrorism, but this is real nonsense, unless the policemen and soldiers whom they attack are to blame for their problems, they invest in the Caucasus several times more money than in other regions, and where do their heads of republics give them is a question for them. Despite the fact that in the Caucasus they respect and honor the authority of their parents and loved ones, it seems that the majority in childhood have not been taught that robbing and killing is bad, that it is impossible to divide the country's citizens into friends and foes. For nationalism, I think it is necessary to judge people of all nationalities, and not only the majority of the population, but even better to equate skinheads with terrorists. Caucasians are by nature very stubborn, and this, by the way, makes them related to the Slavic peoples, but they have some kind of chronic disease called "show-off", because in order to live well, you have to learn to work for a long time (although in our country this does not guarantee a good life) for this you have to wait, but they have no patience, why wait if you can take away from someone the attributes of a good life. Caucasians are very proud of the fact that there are many of their representatives in martial arts, and they represent our country in competitions, but after all, sport should first of all educate normal people and not outrageous people, I generally think that it is necessary to issue a law according to which all athletes involved in martial arts, starting from the master sports signed an agreement under which they undertake to use their abilities only in extreme cases, of course, conflicts from this are unlikely to become much less, but this will be an aggravating circumstance in court, because from my own experience I know what sometimes immoral people come, in particular, to the combat sambo section.
  3. Steering wheel
    +4
    7 March 2012 10: 34
    Listen to this statement, I’ll add from myself that Ukrainian nationalists have the same registration, the elected act on the principle of divide and rule, while the goyim can fight Abramovich, Pinchuk (90 oligarchs and bankers with a big-eyed nationality) and stuff other mischief pockets. http://ahlibeyt.ru/video/pochemu-u-russkix-nacionalistov-izrailskaya-propiska/
    1. Steering wheel
      0
      8 March 2012 14: 04
      At the top, the external factor of our enmity and disunity, and the internal one, is best described here in this story (see the whole film, but better read the book) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pcaSYi7FXw&NR=1 Taras Bulba is Kievan Rus and the son who left behind beautiful eyes is Ukraine and it’s hard to blame it here because history is tragic
      1. Steering wheel
        0
        8 March 2012 14: 24
        And this is an external factor as it was decided by our ancestors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtbA-MtMp28&feature=related
  4. +1
    7 March 2012 10: 57
    Article plus! good
  5. Rodver
    0
    7 March 2012 11: 50
    No "purely economic methods" can solve ethnic conflicts in the Central Asian region. You cannot change the nature of people. Where for centuries the way of life of people is determined from generation to generation by their established religious, spiritual and moral traditions and ideas - whether you are a bey or a poor man - and the attitude towards "unfaithful" and misbehaving neighbors will immediately be united into one tribal-tribal whole. and another. This is the mentality without any economy.
  6. +3
    7 March 2012 11: 58
    Quote: "There is, in fact, a way out, and it consists not only in the growth of the well-being of the citizens of our countries and the increase in education, but also in preventing attempts to search for new antiheroes among other peoples. Of course, it is much more difficult to create than to destroy and edify, but it is in joint creation that the main cure for interethnic enmity lies. "

    The conclusion of the article is excellent. The trouble is that such obvious things are inaccessible to some leaders of states who were previously part of the community of peoples called the USSR. The banal inability to really improve the well-being of their citizens is pushing them onto the slippery path of throwing mud at our common history, inciting ethnic hatred, and opposing fraternal peoples. I really want to hope that all this fuss will not last long, and such "leaders" will not be able to knock our heads together. It turned out to be pathetic, but I hope this does not change the essence.
    1. negabaritnyy
      -3
      7 March 2012 12: 08
      Empty article. Meaningless. Baby talk. I'll put it -
  7. tverskoi77
    0
    7 March 2012 12: 46
    I am at work, call from Lithuania, offer transport services. Moreover, lately there has been increased business activity from the Baltic states to our side.
    It seems to me that this is the answer to many questions: either steep nationalism - Nazism ... (who, what), or civilized and mutually beneficial relations with Russia.
    They need to be offered a choice and the peoples of these countries themselves will determine the right path and leadership along with it. This choice should be offered quite simply and concisely: either friendly relations or none.
    1. 0
      9 March 2012 21: 14
      Reply to Tversky
      It’s just that the economic situation in Lithuania is so awful that they are ready even to recognize Russians as people (temporarily, before overcoming the crisis) and to cooperate. I know what I'm talking about - my parents live there
  8. vostok
    +2
    7 March 2012 12: 57
    Regarding the killing of a football fan, I feel sorry for the guy. But you yourself see what a football fan is - a bunch of drunk teenagers who are yelling obscenely, emptying on the streets, constantly participating in skirmishes where there are also murders, fighting in stadiums with the police, because of their behavior with children it’s scary to go to football, you’d see what are you doing in the subway? And if you suddenly see a janitor of non-Slovenian appearance (who removes shit behind them) they fly in a crowd and beat him. And when a fan was killed, they immediately started talking about ethnic hatred, you must behave culturally and both.
  9. +6
    7 March 2012 15: 41
    I completely agree with the author of the article and I want to comment on this on the current situation in Ukraine. From the very beginning of the "division" anti-Russian tendencies appeared, expressed in the adoption of the state language of Ukrainian, and the very concept of Russian and Ukrainian was sharply opposed to each other, which is initially absurd, since both Russian and Ukrainian are one and the same Russian nationality, just Ukrainians for some time they were occupied by other peoples, and the very concept of "Ukraine" was interpreted as the "outskirts" of the Russian state. Well, I will not go into history, the facts are above all. In addition to the language, a separate Ukrainian "local" church was created, which came out of subordination to the patriarch of "All Russia". The names of Kovbas, Lopat, Vodka were full of names in all the highest government positions, Russians were in secondary positions, these phenomena became especially acute after the ethnic nationalist Yushchenko came to power, who elevated hatred to everything Russian to the rank of state policy and brought it to the absolute absurdity, accusing the Russians of all mortal sins, up to and including the "genocide" of the Ukrainian people on the part of the Russians, they were even going to introduce criminal liability for denying or challenging "genocide" The Verkhovna Rada was smart enough to reject this bill. At the same time, total Ukrainianization was carried out throughout Ukraine, all office work switched to Ukrainian even earlier, teaching in Russian, including in universities, was stopped at all schools, teachers were forbidden to even conduct private conversations in Russian. Under him, it was created and received official recognition as "parties", a large number of organizations of the nationalist-fascist persuasion, such as "freedom", which openly announced the removal from power of citizens of "non-indigenous" nationality and the restriction of their electoral rights (Baltic method) , which is typical of the Baltic countries are part of the "democratic" European Union and there they do not see any violations of democracy in restricting the rights of a significant part of the population. By the way, in the recent elections in a number of regions of Western Ukraine, this pro-fascist organization won a majority in city and regional councils. In the Lviv region, they adopted a resolution on additional payments to pensions from the state budget to the "veterans" of the OUN-UPA in the amount of 1000 hryvnias per month. The modern Ukrainian government not only does not wage any struggle against essentially pro-fascist organizations, but also encourages them in every possible way, for example, their "Fuhrer" Tyagnibok does not climb out of the state national Ukrainian first TV channel and even according to some sources is financed by the ruling party "regions". The "hidden" violent ukroinization continues. In the entire central-western region, including Kiev, there are practically no Russian schools left, and the Russian language is not studied in these territories at all, the "pressure" on the Russian-speaking and in the traditionally Russian eastern and southern regions has increased. Fortunately, it didn’t come to an armed conflict, but the “leadership of“ freedom ”has already heard bluster calls in the media about the transition of“ armed nationalist forces ”across the Dnieper and the establishment of a“ new order ”there. At present, the entire Internet is filled with indignant statements. patriots "on the appointment of citizens of" non-indigenous "nationality to key posts in Ukraine, up to a call for open reprisals.
    1. +1
      7 March 2012 16: 08
      bistrov.,
      The picture is not oil! ... sad It’s hard to read words that contradict the declared desire for strategic partnership on the part of the Ukrainian leadership ... sad Thanks for the info buddy ...
    2. 755962
      +2
      7 March 2012 20: 18
      Your picture is not joyful
  10. malera
    -5
    7 March 2012 16: 43
    Quote: Ascetic
    The recipe is simple as in life - the family must have a strong, caring, respected CHAPTER FAMILY able to protect it and increase prosperity. in the person of the Russian people whom I believe will rise from the stove as Ilya Muromets and again shoulder the historically predetermined role of the pivot of the Eurasian Empire of peoples in their living space. A little pathetic but it is so, let me again be accused of great power chauvinism by various Bandera and God-chosen trolls .

    The recipe for a cook who never cooked. You’d better take a part of this role on your personal shoulders. Well, for example, some Kyrgyz family was let go to their apartment for free, naturally, free of charge. Well, they themselves would have moved into the kitchen. That's it. According to your recipe, such a pie came out. Have a bite on health.
  11. Sniper 1968
    +6
    7 March 2012 16: 45
    Good people do not have a nationality. It's just GOOD PEOPLE. And any kind of tribe has geeks. If such a geek comes to power, it's bad ... sad
  12. +2
    7 March 2012 17: 37
    I see the way out of this situation, first of all, in the reunification of the three fraternal peoples of one root, i.e. Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians into a single state. After that, no one will dare to "roll a barrel" to this united state, and such "small mongrels" like Moldova will not dare to open their mouths and will "crawl on their knees" with a request to take them back. I think the people of all three Slavic states will not be against unification, the question is only about overcoming the personal ambitions of the ruling circles and some of the nationalist-minded elements, especially Ukraine. This is what we all need to work on!
    1. Sniper 1968
      +2
      7 March 2012 18: 26
      bistrov.,
      viruskvartirus,
      I really hope that in the end we will reunite. Moreover, we were artificially disconnected. All sorts of scum had their hand, headed by the most vicious enemy of all the Slavs-VATICAN. Good luck, brothers ...
      1. +4
        7 March 2012 18: 34
        And in order not to be unfounded ...
        I OFFER ...
        right here, all of us ... start a campaign to ... prepare for the referendum ..
        let's say so - "The reunification of artificially divided peoples ... with the anti-popular division of the USSR"
        On March 17, 1991, the people of the USSR voted in a referendum on the preservation of the USSR.
        December 1, 1991, the USSR ceased to exist ... how?
        We will reunite ... but we must also do something ourselves ... and not just to clave the clave.
        1. CBT Pinocchio
          -6
          7 March 2012 22: 02
          Quote: Igarr
          "The reunification of artificially divided peoples ... during the anti-national division of the USSR"

          Squealed at you and Co. laughing
          Quote: Igarr
          We will reunite ... but we must also do something ourselves ... and not just to clave the clave.

          lol
          Quote: Igarr
          I OFFER ...
          right here, all of us ... start a campaign to ... prepare for the referendum ..

          The elections in Latvia, Prednesrovia and South Ossetia were not enough? Nobody wants to think about Russia. And only Russian pioneers continue on the forums - smear snot on the monitor screens ... Yes
          1. 0
            8 March 2012 09: 36
            "If they laugh at you, then you bring joy to someone" ... - heard about this, a fiery chip?

            Of course, what's the referendum?
            Is it possible to dream?
          2. +1
            9 March 2012 21: 19
            Firewood is in a fire, otherwise his monitor will stain my dirt!
  13. +2
    7 March 2012 17: 52
    "Of course, it is much more difficult to create than to destroy and edify, but it is in joint creation that the main cure for interethnic enmity lies" - this is the very essence of less edification, more creation, and everything will be ...
  14. +3
    7 March 2012 18: 48
    In addition, I want to say that it is not necessary to see a nationalist in every Ukrainian, because the Ukrainian working people suffered from the "partition" probably the most, because they lost more than six million in twenty years of "freedom", currently the population of Ukraine is 45,6, 52 million , but it was 6,5 million, because it is he who travels around the world in search of work and, according to the very minimum estimates, more than 2 million Ukrainians are now abroad (in Russia alone there are more than 10 million), because there are about 700 million pensioners in Ukraine, most of whom receive a minimum pension of 2800 hryvnia (about 2 rubles), while food prices are about the same as in Russia, and utilities are 60 times higher, because in Ukraine the retirement age has recently increased, for women up to 62 years, and male civil servants up to XNUMX, because it is practically impossible to find a job in Ukraine, and those who work fully experience all the "charms" of wild capitalism, because there is practically no medical service in Ukraine, they switched to illegal private services when the medical staff is without an "envelope" with a large bill and does not move a finger, but medicines have to be bought at their own expense at exorbitant prices and half of them are expired or fake, because Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe, and perhaps in the world, when you can buy anything and everything by giving a bribe to an official, because it is the Ukrainian who suffers from the nationalist clan power, busy only with stuffing their pockets, and from many other things!
    1. +1
      7 March 2012 19: 15
      bistrov.,
      Dear friend, here, it seems, no one showed any ardent, nationalistic manifestations. If there were any emotional comments, it was only as a reaction to outright trolling. Note that if the opponent is adequate, the tone of conversation with him among the "present" changes to a very friendly one. I very much remember the situation with the Gabala radar station and Suleiman's comments! The same picture applies to your compatriots. Look, their comments, if not charged with anger, elicit an overtly benevolent response. I went to the Ukrainian site and saw that even there, if they blame Russia for all the utter sins, then not many.
      1. Sidorov
        0
        8 March 2012 05: 40
        healthy brother! I’m not a Troll, I’m the head of the ammunition and it’s ridiculous that you are all like we are not slaves with green money. Well, I suppose the major soldier swore our oath? And you don’t answer. ! I’m not brother. I don’t have words. I’ll shoot me in the back like in a war as a traitor to my homeland. Don’t go to war, don’t. We have a lot of intelligence and specialists now divorced, right? I’m waiting for an answer
  15. Nilfgaard
    0
    8 March 2012 04: 23
    Good article. And the first thing to do is take control of the media.
  16. Comrade
    -2
    8 March 2012 23: 51
    In Russia, nationalism is much stronger than in Kyrgyzstan. In Kyrgyzstan there is no such thing that you are not hired because you are not like everyone else ... or you are not expelled from the metro or tram because Aryans and blacks cannot go .. well and a lot of examples. Well, of course there isn’t such that a flock of 5-10 foreheads attacks one poor little man and scrapes them with knives. Or maybe I haven’t heard such a thing ... but while I lived there, there wasn’t such a thing ... Between the Kyrgyz and the Uzbeks , it’s constantly .. between the Kyrgyz and the Uighurs too ... But so that the Russians are attacked in packs and with knives, this is not there. At the household level, it is everywhere, the main thing is to be able to talk and there will be consensus. It was such that the combined forces Russians and Kyrgyz attacked the Kurds, burned them at home and evicted them from the village. For the Chui region and Issyk-Kul, I can say that everything is fine there so far.

    Russians leave anyway from there. Why? To begin with, there was a revolution in 2009. Unknown snipers shot at the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks, from different sides of the mahallas (like neighborhoods probably) divided into Uzbek and Kyrgyz. The conflict broke out. Pogroms. Murders. Kyrgyz They burned the Uzbeks with gas and burned. With the help of this revolution, Kurmanbek Bakiyev was dropped, so to speak. Roza Otunbaeva and Almazbek Atambayev, who until the last moment was pro-Russian, came to power. Who did this all interesting? By whose order? I think the amers ... acquaintances from Kyrgyzstan say that the Russians. No one can be trusted.
    Then in 2009, in the villages of Lebedinovka, Vostok, Novo-Pokrovka, unknown women in hijabs walked and put crosses on houses where Russian (Russian-speaking) people live. But, these villages are obsessed with different peoples living there ... I think because of this and the fact that the population is well-knit, they managed to avoid a possible massacre. But Maevka got it of course ... there a guy like some Tatar seems to have gouged out these nits ...
    And of course the poor Chinese shop "Goin" was burned ...

    Yes, you know all the Kyrgyz revolutions is a way to profit from someone else’s account ... to rob the shops ... collect them, tell them-Take this city (Tashkent, Alma-Ata, Moscow, Beijing), three days to robbery. What will you find. That’s the end of this city. And there’s no need for Kamaz machine guns, stones and more alcohol.

    Well, I think that while there are Russian people in the CIS countries, these countries can at least somehow be twisted. For example, the Cossacks are very developed in Kyrgyzstan. And you know, don’t draw pee on fences.
    1. slas
      +2
      9 March 2012 10: 34
      Quote: Comrade
      In Russia, nationalism is much stronger than in Kyrgyzstan. In Kyrgyzstan there is no such thing that you are not hired because you are not like everyone else ... or you are not expelled from the metro or tram because Aryans and blacks cannot go .. well and a lot of examples. Well, of course there isn’t such that a flock of 5-10 foreheads attacks one poor little man and picks them with knives. Or maybe I haven’t heard such a thing ... but while I lived there, there wasn’t such ..

      now it’s still stronger (and even in doubt) But the question arises: is this disgrace in response to what was happening there in 80-90? Example: I served in Samarkand in the late 80s and I know how many there are our people were killed and brutally tortured, and some of whom I knew then had relatives, so there is experience. This is my opinion recourse
      1. -1
        9 March 2012 21: 34
        Slas
        you're straight to the point. The rapid growth of nationalist sentiments in Russia went after Russia. humiliated, robbed people ran away (and not all of them were in time) and the Russians realized here that in many newly formed states they are not just considered second-class people - they are not considered people at all. If the Russians did with other nations, the same thing that they did with the Russians with impunity .... okay, I don’t want to stir up ethnic hatred ... The injustices that our fellow citizens have done over the "little men" described by Comrade happen, and this is very bad, but there are far fewer of them than examples of the same treatment of "little men" over Russians in their homeland. By the way, for this reason, no one calls them fascists for this ... And then, as Mr. Comrade fills in about the priority right of Russians to work ... for the smallest ... little people, then at least stay, at least fall. It is immediately clear that he was deprived of such dubious happiness to live in the republics of the former USSR (with the exception of Belarus and Ukraine) and to experience the tolerance of our former brothers on his own skin ..
  17. Comrade
    0
    9 March 2012 22: 26
    SLAS-this disgrace is happening on what happened in 1800 when these former countries were forcibly driven into the Russian Empire. Example-Yugoslavia.
    He lived in the USSR, in the RSFSR and Kyrgyzstan. He saw everything, experienced everything. I heard that in Tajikistan, when mountain Tajiks fought against non-mountain people, Russian-speaking citizens fell under the distribution. I don’t know, I wasn’t there, but I just heard ... I don’t know about Uzbekistan at all ... so I don’t write. But I lived in Kyrgyzstan and described everything there above. In general, I know that many in Kyrgyzstan would like Kyrgyzstan to be at least the province of Russia as before. But the impoverished Kyrgyzstan of the Russian Federation did not give up. Yes and there is no common border.

    Smile-You don’t write to me about humiliated running people, you don’t have to. Those who fled from there as refugees, many returned or dream, because in Russia they remained refugees, Kyrgyz and chocks. How many acquaintances Cossacks fled from Chechnya .. . how many of them are angry at the hospitable brothers from the Central RF, a lot. Not only are there so many people there who have handed over, abandoned, so they still say to those who have come to their homeland -And you need (?!) here ?!

    We are responsible for those whom we tamed !!! (this is about countries)

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