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MiG-31 destroyed cruise missile

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According to the news agency “Interfax-AVN”, Pacific Press Service fleet reports that MiG-31 The Russian Aerospace Forces, stationed in Kamchatka, carried out tactical flight exercises to intercept a supersonic cruise missile with live firing in the stratosphere.




In anticipation of the sea day aviation The Russian Navy crews of airplanes of the airbase of troops and forces in the northeast performed a combat exercise to destroy a cruise missile flying at an altitude of more than 12 thousand meters and a speed three times the speed of sound.


It is indicated that the launch of the rocket was made from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk from the sea carrier.

The alert on duty from the Yelizovo airfield (Kamchatka Territory) raised on duty fighter aircraft destroyed the assigned target with air-to-air missiles in a head-on course.


It is reported that in the framework of the designated exercise, the pilots worked out the interaction in the composition of the pairs in the performance of air defense tasks.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 July 2017 04: 21
    +5
    Yes, learning by type, "that which cannot be."
    Shoot down a winged wing walking at low altitude from an unknown direction. And before that discover.
    1. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 05: 34
      +20
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Yes, learning by type, "that which cannot be."

      Why's that? Back in 1999 in Kamchatka, in the interests of the fleet, the Taurus ZGRLS was built. Therefore, the rocket’s exit from the water and tracking its flight, even at the very surface, even in the stratosphere, with the subsequent guidance of an interceptor or anti-missile, is not a great problem. For ZGRLS will constitute a layered defense for any fixation of threats from the sea, in real time. These will be carried out by the stations Taurus, Sunflower and Container, plus Wave, which continues to view the Pacific Ocean. And the Mig-31 has an excellent radar barrier, which is sharpened to see any target, including against the background of the surface ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 17 July 2017 05: 57
        +2
        Let me stay with my opinion.
        Let Taurus see far. But he is maximally handed down to a probable opponent. Start of the Kyrgyz Republic with 200 km and there is none. And the whole system is built around him.
        So you won’t conduct the exercises at the Barrier (most likely). Quickly detect and get a rocket (radius is not enough).
        1. hrych
          hrych 17 July 2017 06: 17
          +14
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Let me stay with my opinion.

          No, I will not allow it.
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Let Taurus see far. But he is maximally handed down to a probable opponent. Start of the Kyrgyz Republic with 200 km and there is none. And the whole system is built around him.

          Fly subsonic Tomahawk in a straight line these 200 km a quarter of an hour. If this is a massive attack, then the ICBMs will reach New York. If a single launch, then the S-300, then the Armor, will meet the guest, as expected. Or is this radar defenseless, naked in the field? (on the shore). The radar container, seeing over 3000 km, will be located offshore than the Sunflowers, so getting it is not easy.
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          So you won’t conduct the exercises at the Barrier (most likely). Quickly detect and get a rocket (radius is not enough).

          The range of the R-33 missiles is 160 km, and the R-37 for 300 km. And with the S-300, S-400 systems, the range of 200 km is not the limit. So, be afraid, there are tools wassat
          1. Walanin
            Walanin 21 July 2017 15: 03
            0
            Quote: hrych
            And with the S-300, S-400 systems, the range of 200 km is not the limit. So, be afraid, there are tools

            On cruise missiles such as Tomahawk or Caliber range of 30km. There are no tools. The attack on Shayrat demonstrated this clearly.
            1. hrych
              hrych 21 July 2017 18: 10
              0
              Quote: Walanin
              The attack on Shayrat demonstrated this clearly.

              Do you have complete data on this hit? If not, it’s better to keep quiet. So the salvo of one of the destroyers was completely intercepted. Allegedly, the second volley was specially missed because they were going through Israel. One way or another, the base was almost not affected, the planes were rearranged from the hangars to the grass, the strip was not damaged at all. On impact Especially the base itself was not covered by our complexes. They defend so Hmmim. Nevertheless, the strike of as many as 60 rockets on one lousy bazooka, with such a depressing result, rather indicates a complete and unconditional failure of the Doctrine of Lightning Strike wassat
              1. Walanin
                Walanin 21 July 2017 18: 14
                0
                Oh, well, do not give out your fantasies and Wishlist for reality.
                The fact remains. The Russian Federation was unable to cover the base, and Russian soldiers dragged from it, the base was destroyed. The result is really depressing.
                Everything else is children's excuses.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 21 July 2017 18: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Walanin
                  The Russian Federation was unable to cover the base, and Russian soldiers drapped from it, the base was destroyed

                  This is the opposite of your Wishlist. Demonstratively, the next day an airstrike was launched from the airfield over the watchdogs. There was also the launch of the S-400 complex, there was an explosion of some purpose. The media reported the crash of the Unmanned Scout at 200 million dollars, though in California. After which the USA strangely went to a truce. It’s hard to say whether it’s fantasy or not. Most importantly, they have lost an expensive and high-tech thing. And if he himself crashed in California, the more disgraceful for them. But in fact, the fact that the United States, like a hegemon, apart from spraying saliva, is not able to do anything with us is the main argument for their powerlessness and the inferiority of weapons systems. Whether you want it or not. Here are just sanctions and nothing more. Somehow weakly. The destroyers are unaccustomed to approach the shore, etc. Apparently worried.
                  1. Walanin
                    Walanin 21 July 2017 19: 55
                    +1
                    What mine, dear?) The soldiers escaped? They escaped. Aircraft and infrastructure destroyed? Destroyed. Does the base work? No, it does not work.
                    Conclusion. The goal is achieved. Russia did not defend the base.
      2. ZVO
        ZVO 17 July 2017 19: 49
        0
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Yes, learning by type, "that which cannot be."

        Why's that? Back in 1999 in Kamchatka, in the interests of the fleet, the Taurus ZGRLS was built.


        Grunt. neither a reader nor a writer ...
        He does not just need to have a mind.
        He doesn't even read the text.
        It is written: "the launch was made from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk."
        Accordingly, in the opinion of Khrych: ZRLLS “Taurus” does not look “outside”, but inside ... Accordingly, in the opinion of Khrych, ships and aircraft should be identified in the almost inland sea.

        I snarl.
        Taurus was delivered only in the interests of the base in Vilyuchinsk.
        And for nothing else.

        Radar Barrier - a terribly outdated device. Its only advantage is power.
        MiG-31BM is capable of shooting down only 1 low-flying Tomahawk. and in the case of hostilities - hundreds and thousands of them will fly and they will be diluted in half with the MALDs.
        The modern AFAR, the modern OLC and any Mig-29, Su-30 class aircraft equipped with them are urgently needed - will be able to bring down the Tomahawks several pieces at a time.
        1. hrych
          hrych 17 July 2017 23: 00
          +5
          Another genius drew laughing I’m not talking about Taurus, but about the ZGRLS principle, which was worked out on the Taurus and the Sunflower was born, which is put in ANY PLACE for 10 days because the station is of high factory readiness and which is now installed everywhere where it is not too late. Once again for genius, Sunflower looks over the water of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. UNDERSTAND !!!
          Quote: ZVO
          MiG-31BM is capable of shooting down only 1 low-flying Tomahawk. and in the case of hostilities - hundreds and thousands of them will fly and they will be diluted in half with the MALDs.

          If thousands fly, our ICBMs fly. DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT? Why didn’t they fly before their ICBMs, because that’s the answer. Why do you think that the KR will fly? An excellent radar screen, not one Tomahawk, but as many air-to-air missiles as there are. UNDERSTAND a genius?
          IN RESPONSE TO ARRIVE ICBM them. Which down will send a thousand KR, which will fly 2 hours, when New York burns out in 20 minutes, as a response to the attack. What do you have in your head? Do you even understand anything in this world? You read IN, at least something to learn. I feel sorry for you.
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 22 July 2017 13: 56
            0
            Quote: hrych
            Another genius drew laughing I’m not talking about Taurus, but about the ZGRLS principle, which was worked out on the Taurus and the Sunflower was born, which is put in ANY PLACE for 10 days because the station is of high factory readiness and which is now installed everywhere where it is not too late. Once again for genius, Sunflower looks over the water of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. UNDERSTAND !!!
            Quote: ZVO
            MiG-31BM is capable of shooting down only 1 low-flying Tomahawk. and in the case of hostilities - hundreds and thousands of them will fly and they will be diluted in half with the MALDs.

            If thousands fly, our ICBMs fly. DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT? Why didn’t they fly before their ICBMs, because that’s the answer. Why do you think that the KR will fly? An excellent radar screen, not one Tomahawk, but as many air-to-air missiles as there are. UNDERSTAND a genius?
            IN RESPONSE TO ARRIVE ICBM them. Which down will send a thousand KR, which will fly 2 hours, when New York burns out in 20 minutes, as a response to the attack. What do you have in your head? Do you even understand anything in this world? You read IN, at least something to learn. I feel sorry for you.


            Do you really think that the destruction of the entire globe, of all human civilization - the death of all your mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and children, granddaughters and grandchildren - is really the only solution to the local armed conflict that broke out between the two nuclear powers. ..
            Moreover, the conflict caused by a third party. either through the fault of the media, or otherwise ...
            When the conflict is clearly voiced as not aimed at seizing territory, the genocide of the indigenous population, etc. those. those reasons that really threaten the state and are the reasons for the use of nuclear weapons.
            Are you personally ready to kill your child, grandson?
            Constantly declaring a nuclear strike on the enemy - you realize that "FSE?"
            What launching nuclear forces on the enemy, do you force him to respond back with his nuclear strike?
            Regardless of who is to blame for the reasons and whether he realized his guilt?
            Even if the American president and his advisers are aware. that they went too far (in their local blow) they will not be filled with apology.
            In response to them, nuclear missiles fly, they will certainly launch their missile strike.
            And FSE! again...
            Everybody.

            Did you have to fight?
            Did you just fight in teen fights?
            One on one with the offender?
            Or did you blow up the houses in which your abusive bullies lived, together with all the inhabitants?

            I have a feeling. that I communicate with a person who has never fought in my life. who did not serve in the army and year, with a brain developed to the level of a 13-14-year-old pimply young man who outplayed at KolOfDuty ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 22 July 2017 17: 45
              0
              Quote: ZVO
              I have a feeling. that I communicate with a person who has never fought in my life. who did not serve in the army and year, with a brain developed to the level of a 13-14-year-old pimply young man who outplayed at KolOfDuty ...

              Listen, you can not talk. At least for 70 years we have not had a war, and this is the main thing, this time. It’s not necessary for us to climb and children and mothers of the enemy are not two. I repeat once again, our long-range and long-range missile defense systems must classify a massive attack by the enemy’s ICBMs, enemy’s missiles, or enemy aircraft. Having classified the start-up team as such, there is no time to plant ceremonies, carry out a blizzard about yard disassembly, etc. This is the system, they know it and behave accordingly, and if the wise guy supposedly did you and then changed his mind, then I'm sorry the system is already will not allow it. Therefore, your throwing and the search for the meaning of life are not interested in the SPRN, there is a threat, there is an answer. Therefore, they did so much to pick up the Caucasian ridge and Crimea, but they fled like a beaten dog, because for them it did not matter more than their dead relatives and a vaporized bank account. Moreover, unlike the dead USSR, the Doctrine of the Russian Federation is not defensive, but preemptive and gives the right to our Armed Forces the right to inflict a first strike on the enemy in case of a promising threat. Due to what they are afraid even to approach the Kyrgyz carriers to the launch distance at our centers. And the single destroyer Cook, etc., can only try to come up, the truth is immediately running, but actually why come up at all. If our PLO forces see the approach of the submarines to the shore, no one will even wait for the CR to fly. ICBMs will be launched according to the Doctrine and no one will ask your snot. There is a good way to avoid this - not to creep into us, not to threaten us, not to do so that we consider their actions a threat to us. While they do so.
              Quote: ZVO
              And if you are positioning yourself as a specialist in radar, bring the formula according to which in your world the reflecting ability of a huge destroyer will be less than a rocket, which is a thousand times smaller in size ...

              Very simple. The Sunflower station uses the principle of location by a superficial ray (diffractive surface propagation), and the Container also, at short distances (comparable to the Sunflower), observes the target by reflection from the Ionosphere, where the detection ranges become 3000 km or more. The flight altitude when fixing with a surface beam is critical, not the size of the trough. As by the way, and with over-the-horizon radars, where the ship, although huge and reflects very strongly, leaving behind the horizon it becomes invisible, although it is a thousand times larger, but the warhead of a ballistic missile is very small, it flies weak, but it flies at an altitude of 100- 300 km, and for the over-the-horizon radar, it jumps out of the horizon at a distance of 3000 km, while a giant ship commercials for 20, well, 40 km. When scanning with a surface wave, it is almost the same, and when reflected from the ionosphere, yes, of course, a huge ship is visible farther than a small RS. The surface wave, or rather the ZGRLS, sees a huge ship, but at the same distance from the surface, however, the KR emerging or launching from the destroyer rises hundreds of meters, then dropping the accelerators it is pressed to the water, but this pressing to the water does not mean that, like you sailed on an air mattress, it flies several tens of meters above the water, i.e. about 40-60 meters, so two, three times higher than the superstructure of a large ship. So further, even though the EPR is less. Here is the scheme with the export Sunflower, but the principle is the same, the larger the ships, the farther visible, but the airplane is visible a hundred km further because it is higher. There is another feature, the launch of a rocket is an explosion of a powder accelerator, with a submarine when leaving the water, this explosion gives radar light. Also, the operation of the jet engine gives rise to harmonics, the emission of nozzles itself gives a trace of a hundred meters of hot gases. ZGRLS works in the range of 3-30 (Container) megahertz, this range is very sensitive to harmonics. If I used a household radio station at 27 MHz, I heard a crack when a car passed hundreds of meters, and kilometers when an airplane flew. But at night you can hear American ham radio for one and a half ten thousand kilometers. This feature of this range and in it to the ESR of the Kyrgyz Republic, add the amount of emissions from the nozzles. ZGRLS is naturally the best, Tomahawk will light the farthest at start, when the explosion of the accelerator will give off energy in the form of harmonics, when it rises hundreds of meters, etc. I will repeat the export is much dumber and limited in capabilities, although their performance characteristics are given. Our real Sunflower is classified by performance characteristics, it uses know-how. And the fact that he was accepted into service, suggests that the system is working, and it is needed to fix the threat from the sea.

              There is still a feature of radar, especially to reduce the EPR, the shape should have reflective planes the size of a wavelength, i.e. a flat panel of 10 meters when irradiated with a frequency of 30 MHz, if correctly positioned, will give a smaller ESR than the small Tomahawk, although for 3 MHz this panel should be at least 100 meters because such a wavelength. However, they (and we) do strange forms of add-ons (flat, at a certain angle, I hope now I understand why).
            2. hrych
              hrych 22 July 2017 18: 03
              0
              There is a whole religion, called - Stealth, when the f-117 and even the giant B-2, has a smaller ESR than the tidy, small Tomahawk, with small wings and stabilizers. Those. The radar sees the small Tomahawk farther than a huge plane, of course in a certain hemisphere, in a certain frequency range, and so on. I hope I clearly explained why the dimensions in the radar do not always matter laughing
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 17 July 2017 07: 57
      +4
      Shoot down a winged one walking at low altitude

      12 thousand meters
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 18 July 2017 16: 22
        +1
        Quote: alexmach
        Shoot down a winged one walking at low altitude

        12 thousand meters

        For the most advanced:
        Message: 1. more than 12 thousand meters; 2. air-to-air missiles in the opposite direction.
        The teaching should be: 1. running at a low altitude. 2. from an unknown direction. 3. Before that, discover.
        Then I would applaud the teachings. Do not need? Your will.
    3. Elena Zakharova
      Elena Zakharova 17 July 2017 22: 27
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Shoot down a winged wing walking at low altitude from an unknown direction.

      Sorry, the article says that at an altitude of more than 12000 meters ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 18 July 2017 16: 23
        +1
        Quote: Elena Zakharova
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Shoot down a winged wing walking at low altitude from an unknown direction.

        Sorry, the article says that at an altitude of more than 12000 meters ...

        Sorry, see above.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2017 04: 28
    +40
    Mig-31- Thing! here He really has no analogues ... soldier . My friends, my second Grandson was born! now the youngest son has presented! TTX-3.580 / 51 cm yes ... went to decompose labor discipline in production, "putting down" for the holy grandson! drinks fellow hi
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 17 July 2017 04: 45
      +9
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Mig-31- Thing! here He really has no analogues ...

      It really doesn’t, but this is a Soviet legacy, and there are not very many of these machines left. So in Yelizovo in Kamchatka from the regiment there remained an air group in which, God forbid, 12 fighters in flight condition. And to shoot down high-altitude non-maneuvering targets in modern conditions is unlikely to be required. Potential partners are also fools.
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      My friends, my second Grandson was born! now the youngest son has presented! TTX-3.580 / 51 see yes ... I went to decompose labor discipline in production, "putting down" for a holy grandson!

      My sincere congratulations! hi drinks
    2. Smog
      Smog 17 July 2017 04: 50
      +8
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      TTX-3.580 / 51 cm

      TTX is normal. good Congratulations! And for the grandson drinks it's holy !!!!!!
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan 17 July 2017 05: 31
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      my second Grandson was born!

      Congratulations! drinks
    4. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 17 July 2017 10: 51
      +8
      With the birth of a grandson, Grandfather !!!!! love
    5. Bort radist
      Bort radist 17 July 2017 11: 08
      +2
      Congratulations, Grandfather Andrey!
    6. barik92090
      barik92090 17 July 2017 17: 28
      +1
      I Know, MIGs will be, I Know, MIGs-bloom, when such a design bureau and people in the country, RUSSIA is!
    7. Abel
      Abel 18 July 2017 15: 29
      0
      Haha My grandson was born 5400/56
  3. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 17 July 2017 05: 15
    +5
    Very curious what kind of cruise missile is this? Indeed, in all the plots about the same launches of X101, X555 and products like Tomahawk we are talking about the fact that the rocket, even when launched from high altitudes, drops to 100 m, or even less than meters, and at subsonic speed it goes around the relief. And here is a high-altitude high-speed target. What does it emit then? What does the NATO have so flies?
  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto 17 July 2017 05: 34
    +6
    Would create a replacement for him not inferior to the old man. Yes, just do not have to expect so breakthrough in quality devices. I watched here a film by Konstantin Semin about modern education, and his comments on it ..... it's just quiet horror! Questions about who Valentina Terishkova is is difficult! among modern youth, well, plus salaries in factories .....! crying

    Where is the power button on the iPad, and how to google it they know, and the laws of thermodynamics is generally haha ​​some kind of nonsense will tell you a modern 10th grader. This is the bottom comrades ..

    In general, sad I am skeptical and pessimistic this morning - sad ... crying



    Forgive Jura ... we all about .... lost.
    1. kg pv
      kg pv 17 July 2017 06: 09
      +11
      Actually, she is Tereshkova ... feel
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    2. Kirill Ivanov
      Kirill Ivanov 19 July 2017 13: 26
      0
      Personally, you lost everything ... but I, for one, haven’t
  5. 3vs
    3vs 17 July 2017 05: 43
    +1
    "The alert link of the fighters, raised by alarm from the Yelizovo airdrome (Kamchatka Territory), destroyed the designated target with air-to-air missiles in the opposite direction."
    It turns out that not a single aircraft but a duty unit participated in the destruction of the target, I wonder how many missiles were fired to destroy a single target?
    And if there are several dozen goals? ...
    1. Logall
      Logall 17 July 2017 06: 03
      +18
      And for this there are air defense systems, specially ground on this ...
    2. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 06: 25
      0
      Quote: 3vs
      I wonder how many missiles were fired to destroy a single target?

      One
      Quote: 3vs
      And if there are several dozen goals? ...

      The ICBMs will fly and Judgment Day will begin. The enemy does not have such CDs, there are subsonic ones; the MiG-31 has cannon on them.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2017 15: 54
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: 3vs
        I wonder how many missiles were fired to destroy a single target?

        One
        Quote: 3vs
        And if there are several dozen goals? ...

        The ICBMs will fly and Judgment Day will begin. The enemy does not have such CDs, there are subsonic ones; the MiG-31 has cannon on them.

        it’s so cool ... Sega, change me, my shells on the main gun run out, and there are 500 more “axes” ... "
        1. hrych
          hrych 17 July 2017 16: 15
          +3
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          it’s so cool ... Sega, change me, my shells on the main gun run out, and there are 500 more “axes” ... "

          There is such a thing, called an ICBM, if a sudden disarming strike does not follow thanks to the ZRLS, we have time to send them. THIS MAIN IS ALREADY MORE THAN 50 YEARS. They have and had ICBMs, we do not have a reliable missile defense against them, but they do not use them. And here, some kind of subsonic high-explosive rubbish, the whole chip was that they pop out from the horizon near the target and there are a lot of them. And now all this is a junk. Thanks ZGRLS. Back in Yugoslavia, the main means of counteracting the Kyrgyz Republic was electronic warfare. Nobody has canceled this now. Since there are so many of them, then EMPs start to sound and it doesn’t matter if there are 500 or even 5000. Inertial guidance for enveloping the terrain no longer channels. Or do you think that on the attack of the Kyrgyz Republic, we will not use nuclear weapons? War is war.
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 17 July 2017 20: 00
            0
            Quote: hrych
            Back in Yugoslavia, the main means of counteracting the Kyrgyz Republic was electronic warfare. Nobody has canceled this now.

            They already told you - learn the materiel!
            Of the 730 Tomahawks launched in Yugoslavia, no more than 20 missiles were knocked off course by electronic warfare equipment.
            A total of 40 missiles were shot down by air defense / missile defense.
            Nearly 640 rockets found their target.
            Review the data.
            Normal data.
            find the old video as it was destroyed:
            all the headquarters. all stationary locations of military units, all bridges. almost all power plants and water pumping stations. all military and repair plants.
            All oil refineries and oil storage facilities. all fuel reserves.
            All military infrastructure was destroyed within 2 weeks.
            Slowly.
            And do not carry nonsense anymore !!!
            1. hrych
              hrych 17 July 2017 23: 08
              +1
              You are smart, do not teach me and do not comment on me anymore, because you cannot even understand what it is about. What I wrote:
              Back in Yugoslavia, the main means of counteracting the Kyrgyz Republic was electronic warfare.
              And how did you refute the wise guy? If they included microwaves against anti-radar missiles wassat This is called electronic warfare, they simply had no other means.
              Quote: ZVO
              And do not carry nonsense anymore !!!

              Not your rating to talk about it wassat
      2. Walanin
        Walanin 21 July 2017 15: 05
        0
        Quote: hrych
        The ICBMs will fly and Judgment Day will begin.

        if ICBMs fly at any strike, then why the hell did these MiG-31s ​​surrender?
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 July 2017 17: 58
          +1
          Quote: Walanin
          if ICBMs fly at any strike, then why the hell did these MiG-31s ​​surrender?

          The degree of threat is different, systems like SPRN record a massive attack, and the key to start. If the target is single or small, the interceptor works. With a nuclear exchange of strikes, the war will continue until one of the parties completely wins. The fact that you will exist in the form of a fried paste, the sun will not stop it and they will continue to fight further.
          1. Walanin
            Walanin 21 July 2017 18: 01
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            And what's the point of anyone launching a single cruise missile on Russian territory, and even in non-nuclear equipment? Nuclear equipment is definitely a nuclear response, and the MiG-31 is again not needed.
            Even through the Syrian barns of the barmalei, even at least dozens or even hundreds of them are fired at in a salvo. And such volume interceptors are already definitely too tough.
            1. hrych
              hrych 21 July 2017 18: 50
              0
              Quote: Walanin
              Even through the Syrian barns of the barmalei, even at least dozens or even hundreds of them are fired at in a salvo. And such volume interceptors are already definitely too tough.

              We are testing the system, only in 2015 GLONASS was deployed. These launches would have been so at ranges, as the rearmament of the fleet and aircraft with cruise missiles is in progress. Sheds, sheds of strife. There is an ammunition depot, there are barracks, and there are headquarters. All these are full-fledged goals for the Kyrgyz Republic. Also, oil production and transportation infrastructure. Which should have been destroyed with precision weapons. However, for one target, one missile, and then 60. Of course, the airfield has a large length, infrastructure and band, which must be plowed. However, 60 it was already too much. The base is so-so.
              1. Walanin
                Walanin 21 July 2017 19: 58
                0
                Quote: hrych
                However, for one target, one rocket

                Are you kidding or don't really understand?
                Warhead that Tomahawk that Caliber is about 500kg. One aerial bomb. Two sheds nearby - you need two precision bombs, or two Caliber, or two Tomahawks, or a large pile of uncontrollable cast iron.
                If you are talking about Shairat base, then it was the destruction of the airfield along with all the infrastructure and aircraft. End justifies the means.
                1. ZVO
                  ZVO 22 July 2017 13: 57
                  0
                  Quote: Walanin
                  Quote: hrych
                  However, for one target, one rocket

                  Are you kidding or don't really understand?
                  Warhead that Tomahawk that Caliber is about 500kg. One aerial bomb. Two sheds nearby - you need two precision bombs, or two Caliber, or two Tomahawks, or a large pile of uncontrollable cast iron.
                  If you are talking about Shairat base, then it was the destruction of the airfield along with all the infrastructure and aircraft. End justifies the means.


                  He does not understand what he is writing, they just give him a training manual ...
    3. Abel
      Abel 18 July 2017 15: 31
      0
      Single aircraft do not release. ALWAYS take off the duty link.
  6. anjey
    anjey 17 July 2017 06: 07
    0
    Quote: 3vs
    "The alert link of the fighters, raised by alarm from the Yelizovo airdrome (Kamchatka Territory), destroyed the designated target with air-to-air missiles in the opposite direction."
    It turns out that not a single aircraft but a duty unit participated in the destruction of the target, I wonder how many missiles were fired to destroy a single target?
    And if there are several dozen goals? ...

    Do you think it’s so easy to bring down the CR, but at least 3 links would only have the result and experience ....
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 17 July 2017 06: 42
    +3
    performed a combat exercise to destroy a cruise missile flying at an altitude of more than 12 thousand meters and a speed three times the speed of sound.
    And in real life, cruise missiles fly 120 - 12 meters. and not one at a time. And we won’t know how to intercept a chip in real rockets. And we will bleat our excuse that "this situation was not worked out in the exercises. We were not ready")))
    1. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 08: 03
      +1
      Quote: tchoni
      And we will bleat our justification

      Someone else seems to bleat here. Nobody canceled the high-altitude breakthrough at the speed limit of aerodynamic targets. They do not have supersonic Raman engines, but there are supersonic planes, and the same Granite is a great imitation of them, moreover, with reduced radio signature and greater speed. Intensive work is also underway to create hypersonic CRs that will naturally travel in the stratosphere. The fastest interceptor on the planet and deal with this issue.
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 17 July 2017 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: hrych
        Nobody canceled a high-altitude breakthrough at the speed limit of aerodynamic targets

        You rave, my friend. Seem to the doctor, uvs a bad complexion))))
        Remind me, please, where and when did NATO aircraft break through air defense in this way?
        1. hrych
          hrych 17 July 2017 13: 01
          +1
          Quote: tchoni
          Remind me, please, where and when did NATO aircraft break through air defense in this way?

          Powers U-2 laughing Pilots should be able to do everything, how to intercept targets in the stratosphere and near the surface. Whether training intercepts of low-flying targets are not conducted. Surprisingly, the dullness of the reaction of some "experts" in the interception and part-time folk healers who have hemorrhoids overwhelms. I use official medicine, but you’ll like the advice of a healer like you laughing
          1. tchoni
            tchoni 17 July 2017 18: 25
            +1
            You definitely need a doctor)))
  8. Old26
    Old26 17 July 2017 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    Why's that? Back in 1999 in Kamchatka, in the interests of the fleet, the Taurus ZGRLS was built. Therefore, the rocket’s exit from the water and tracking its flight, even at the very surface, even in the stratosphere, with the subsequent guidance of an interceptor or anti-missile, is not a great problem. For ZGRLS will constitute a layered defense for any fixation of threats from the sea, in real time. These will be carried out by the stations Taurus, Sunflower and Container, plus Wave, which continues to view the Pacific Ocean. And the Mig-31 has an excellent radar barrier, which is sharpened to see any target, including against the background of the surface ...

    I think you're not quite right. The tracking zone ZGRLS "Taurus" is hardly circular. Its direction is the Pacific Ocean, for it is "beyond it" - the adversary. The rocket was launched, which is called from behind, from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

    As for the teachings. The meaning of such a teaching is not entirely clear. Interception of a supersonic rocket in the stratosphere. The enemy does not have such missiles, and those in the future (hypersonic) will go to the target at heights three times greater.
    No, any teaching is good, no one argues. But as the comrade said correctly, the situation from the series

    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Yes, learning by type, "that which cannot be."
    Shoot down a winged wing walking at low altitude from an unknown direction. And before that discover.

    And the doctrine with the destruction of Kr is absolutely the same order as the destruction of the target by the Americans with the TCAAD system. We have said a lot here that it is known in advance where it will go, time and so on. So here was about the same option. the direction is known, time too ...

    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Mig-31- Thing! here He really has no analogues ... soldier . My friends, my second Grandson was born! now the youngest son has presented! TTX-3.580 / 51 cm yes ... went to decompose labor discipline in production, "putting down" for the holy grandson! drinks fellow hi

    My congratulations!!! good
    1. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 13: 48
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      The tracking zone ZGRLS "Taurus" is hardly circular. Its direction is the Pacific Ocean, for it is "beyond it" - the adversary. The rocket was launched, which is called from behind, from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

      "Taurus" - experimental ZGRLS on which algorithms are worked out. Its subsequent modification, “Sunflower”, which sees twice as far, a high-readiness station, now unfolds in all shock-hazardous areas. In the Arctic, Crimea, the Baltic and the Caspian. Also ZGRLS experimental "Wave" became the ancestor of the "Container".
      Now the container is being built in Zeya, Amur Region. And the very first three stations "Sunflower" deployed on the shores of the Caspian, Japanese and Okhotsk seas.
      Make up for the lack of knowledge - Source: http://bastion-opk.ru/podsolnuh/
      In short, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk scans the "Sunflower". In general, ZGRLS have a viewing angle of 180 degrees, but the Mordovian “Container” is being finalized and the viewing angle will be 240 degrees. Those. will look and behind laughing
      ZGRLS is a means of all-weather control of surface and air conditions, in real time with a deviation of a meter. Until now, few have understood its significance for the defense of the country. The problem of the threat of the enemy submarine’s KR and, in general, attacks from the sea was solved. The problem of stealth is solved, in this spectrum of irradiation EPR cannot be reduced And you, as always overslept. wassat There will be 10 "Containers" and a bunch of "Sunflowers". True Mordovian Container and so controls the whole of Europe. And it’s time to stop criticizing our command and to doubt the necessity of this or that training exercise. It’s necessary - it’s necessary. Now the NTP has gone beyond our respected, but creaking veterans, who in the current gadgets are absolutely not fond of wassat
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2017 14: 23
        +2
        Thanks to everyone! LIVE came back from work, all in congratulations, happy as a cat from sour cream ... the team singed, tore off the shift, the director drank, the chief accountant promised a drunken prize, the power engineer joyfully burned the “assembly” by blowing it with air (and we have graphite in the air everywhere) in obchem all according to plan! LIVE! drinks
      2. ZVO
        ZVO 17 July 2017 20: 10
        0
        Quote: hrych

        "Taurus" - experimental ZGRLS on which algorithms are worked out. Its subsequent modification is "Sunflower" which sees twice as far,

        I repeat.
        Teach materiel.
        The Chinese bought the "Sunflower" only when he was able to discover a Chinese destroyer at a distance of 220 kilometers in joint trials.
        What is Taurus. that Sunflower - do not work on surface whole more than 250km.
        For small targets in the form of CR - the range will be completely different.
        A normal person should understand this.
        1. hrych
          hrych 17 July 2017 23: 29
          +1
          Quote: ZVO
          Teach materiel.

          Wise guy, you brought the data of the export version with underestimated characteristics. Check it out. Again, as bubbles in a puddle wassat Also, the caliber for export is not more than 300 km range, but ours fly by 1,5. The wonderful boy Sunflower has a detection range of 450 km. Check it out. wassat
          Let's start with wiki
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Подсолнух_(загоризо
          nt_ radar)
          Quote: ZVO
          A normal person should understand this.

          A normal person who understands radar knows that the frequency of the radar radiation allows you to see the aerodynamic target, such as KR even further wassat
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 22 July 2017 14: 09
            0
            Quote: hrych
            The Wonderful Boy Sunflower has a detection range of 450 km. Check it out. wassat
            Let's start with wiki
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Подсолнух_(загоризо
            nt_ radar)
            Quote: ZVO
            A normal person should understand this.

            A normal person who understands radar knows that the frequency of the radar radiation allows you to see the aerodynamic target, such as KR even further wassat


            you are handsome ...
            really. such a wiki-reasoned.
            dogmatical.
            Now look for information (google) how and why the Chinese decided to buy a Sunflower. If you are at least somehow smarter than a steam locomotive. you will find. and you will also find the range of real detection.

            And if you are positioning yourself as a specialist in radar, bring the formula according to which in your world the reflecting ability of a huge destroyer will be less than a rocket, which is a thousand times smaller in size ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 22 July 2017 18: 11
              0
              Quote: ZVO
              Now look for information (google) how and why the Chinese decided to buy a Sunflower.

              Not yours ..., in general, the physiognomic feature of the body tells me what to do. I’ll figure it out myself wassat And to you, I would advise you to learn a little, read the VO passions there, since you are making attempts to speak in the Internet community wassat so as not to look like a not very advanced expert on weapons systems.
  9. pwmich
    pwmich 17 July 2017 14: 38
    +2
    A massive blow to a couple of hundred tomahawks (albeit subsonic) and who the hell will knock something. And if we talk about a massive global strike, then there is no chance at all, even the vaunted s-400 and other systems will not help.
    1. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 16: 34
      +2
      Quote: pwmich
      And if we talk about a massive global impact, then in general there is no chance

      You have no chance of becoming an advanced sofa-military analyst wassat Okay, well, enlightenment is a holy thing. You have a religion, i.e. faith in the USA and their junk. Now consider all our political and economic centers thousands of kilometers from the coast. Fershteen? Fly subsonic KR at a speed of 800 km / h, from the coast, say to Moscow an hour / a half, or even two. And our ICBMs are 20-30 minutes. Fershteen? To release this cloud of the Kyrgyz Republic (one thousand / another) in the form of a global strike, all the carriers, namely the submarines and destroyers, must be brought close to our shore, EVERYTHING ... here one Cook came up, so he was frightened that the people were quitting. What we will not notice that they are swimming to us from all sides? This ICBM flies half an hour from the mine to his hometown. And then the ships sail for weeks, they’re not even planes, they have 30 knots, the speed is at full ... wassat And now thanks to ZGRLS, not only the approach of the surface carrier of the missile launcher is fixed, but the launch of the missile launcher from under the water and it does not matter how many of them and whether they hit the target, the main thing is that retaliation is inevitable, in the form of a cloud of our ICBMs. Fershteen? wassat So, given all this, the concept of lightning fast, global, disarming strike by non-nuclear means becomes utter nonsense. If they already have something that threatens us, these are the old, good ICBMs wassat Why didn’t they use them? Guess three times. Because their flight in the same 15-30 minutes gives us the opportunity to give an answer. Have you heard? And then TWO HOURS FLY. Go and learn the performance characteristics of weapons systems. And it’s a disgrace not to understand what I described. wassat
      1. Walanin
        Walanin 21 July 2017 15: 08
        0
        Quote: hrych
        then one Cook came up, so he was persuaded that the people quit

        and here the Cook Witnesses pulled themselves up. This fake will never die. The rest of the sheet is about the same delusional level.
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 July 2017 17: 49
          0
          Quote: Walanin
          This fake will never die

          And here is a fake, if they were hit onboard by the radar of coastal complexes, if they called on him, simulating an attack by airplanes. Is that a secret? EW used or not, another question. Claim CNEN, and other rubbish, they smashed it.

          It’s you who is a super brave man, and when during a military operation a jet fighter flies at you with an unknown order, thoughts are different. Moreover, the camera does not transmit the sound level, so the personnel were a little shell shock when such a device flies over a dozen meters wassat
          1. Walanin
            Walanin 21 July 2017 18: 03
            0
            Quote: hrych
            if the radar of coastal complexes hit him on board

            And here is the news. And how can radars hit?
            Quote: hrych
            Claim CNEN, and other stuff, they smashed it.

            I don’t remember this from CNN, but I can even remember from the yellow Russian blogosphere and the media.
            1. hrych
              hrych 21 July 2017 18: 43
              0
              Quote: Walanin
              And here is the news. And how can radars hit?

              Radio beam (this is the term radar), and devices like your car radar have signaled this. At this moment, a combat alert is announced, the boatswain whistles "everyone on top" laughing The fuss begins, someone will definitely break his leg. Calculations take their position. And when the planes flew, and with a menacing maneuver, the operators have a pulse on a hypertensive crisis. The commander must make a decision to repel an air attack. If it fires, it will catch Onyx aboard from the Bastion or from the same aircraft, or something. It’s cool to watch football on the sofa with beer, and sometimes the nerves pass, but here it is. Moreover, Cook’s line-up understood who he was dealing with, he understood the situation, there, on the shore, the Allies were hit with a butt in the teeth.
              http://nnm.me/blogs/antimaydan/rossiyskiy-bombard
              irovshik-dovel-moryakov-esminca-donald-cook-do-uv
              olneniya /
              Reuters complained to Pentagon Woren that such actions are unnerving for American angels
              1. Walanin
                Walanin 21 July 2017 18: 47
                0
                In other words, coastal missile systems revealed to the enemy the combat modes of operation of their radar in peacetime. Americans should be very pleased. Yes, for this, under the guilty it is necessary to give to the tribunal.
                Quote: hrych
                http://nnm.me/blogs/antimaydan/rossiyskiy-bombard
                irovshik-dovel-moryakov-esminca-donald-cook-do-uv
                olneniya /

                So for some reason your link is not to CNN, but to the hottest Russian blog, which periodically falls into the black lists of Roskomnadzor for pirated content. What I was talking about.
                Is it weak to find something more reliable and credible? You talked about CNN there, so give a link to it.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 21 July 2017 19: 11
                  0
                  CNN in the news uses the same Reuters, for it is an international news agency. The same news channels of the Russian Federation, such as ORT, RTR, etc., voice Itar-Tass messages. I hope you explained the difference between the channel and the agency. Although the channels have their own special channels, overwhelming news comes from news agencies.
                  1. Walanin
                    Walanin 21 July 2017 20: 01
                    0
                    I understand that you can’t provide a link to a reliable source? Right? At least even on ORT?
                    If not, then your fantasies are debunked by you.
                    However, I did not expect anything else from you.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 21 July 2017 20: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Walanin
                      What mine, dear?) The soldiers escaped? They escaped. Aircraft and infrastructure destroyed? Destroyed. Does the base work? No, it does not work.

                      All the dishes ran away and the irons ran away wassat wassat I don’t even want to slander the bearded news, the pictures were already printed here, etc. Maybe it’s closer to current issues. wassat
                      Quote: Walanin
                      However, I did not expect anything else from you.

                      Wai, wai, what a pain !!!
                      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-simu
                      latedattack-idUSKCN0XA1UW
                      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-burundi-missing
                      -usa-idUSKBN1A61S8
                      This is how Cook drove in two seas laughing

                      Look for the full Warren interview yourself
                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 22: 31
                        0
                        Excellent!
                        And where on your screenshot and links for the dismissal of sailors, a hit on board the coastal radar and other nonsense?)
                        I see only information about 12 close passages of unarmed Su-24.
                        What do you see?
                    2. hrych
                      hrych 21 July 2017 20: 38
                      0
                      Here is the Song Agency
                      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russian-med
                      ia-claims-country-can-wipe-out-entire-us-navy-wit
                      ha-single-electronic-bomb-in-bizarre-propaganda-
                      report /
                      Here is the Daily Star
                      http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/60653
                      0 / Russia-war-Putin-missiles-electronic-bomb-US-na
                      vy-trump-kim-jong-un-video
                      Here is the German Satellite Deutschland
                      https://archive.fo/hbDSX
                      According to the English version of the article:

                      “Everything went fine, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. Aegis was no longer working, and missiles could not get information about the target. "

                      Followed by:

                      “After the incident, foreign media reported that Donald Cook hastened to the Romanian port. There, all 27 crew members resigned. It seems that all 27 people wrote that they did not want to risk their lives. "There is indirect evidence from the Pentagon, according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship."

                      Deal with your loved ones in short laughing
                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 22: 33
                        0
                        Oh, I haven’t noticed a few more comments. Eco You bombed.
                        This post is generally a masterpiece !!!
                        Russian media claims country can wipe out entire US Navy with a single 'electronic bomb' in bizarre propaganda report
                        If you don’t speak English, at least google translator used chtoli. Well, so as not to seem completely ridiculous. Or do you want me to translate? laughing
                    3. hrych
                      hrych 21 July 2017 20: 52
                      0
                      Then your write:
                      “Since the incident, which the Euro-Atlantic media carefully concealed, despite the widespread reaction among experts in the defense industry, not a single American ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters.”
                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 22: 35
                        0
                        I don’t know who yours are. But the same Donald Cook and other destroyers calmly continue to walk along the Black Sea as at home. Apparently they are not aware of all this epic. Recently, even the cruiser lit up.
                    4. hrych
                      hrych 21 July 2017 21: 26
                      0
                      http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
                      Here is Info Wars
                      https://www.infowars.com/russians-disable-u-s-gui
                      ded-missile-destroyer /
                      “The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the USS destroyer Donald Cook has been seriously demoralized since their ship was transported to the Black Sea by the Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-
                      24) a fighter that carried neither a bomb nor a rocket, but only an electronic combat device. ” I hope you can use translators bully
                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 22: 38
                        0
                        Wow. Infovars !!! The site of the patient on the head of the ultra-conservative Alex Jones, in front of which even Zhirik is resting with Kiselev!
                        Burn on. But in a decent society for such links you yourself understand what they are doing.
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                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 23: 09
                        0
                        What-what do you see, being?
                    6. hrych
                      hrych 21 July 2017 23: 32
                      0
                      Are you Ukrainian?
                      1. Walanin
                        Walanin 21 July 2017 23: 34
                        0
                        And why do you answer a question with a question?
  10. Old26
    Old26 17 July 2017 15: 02
    0
    Quote: hrych
    And the very first three stations "Sunflower" deployed on the shores of the Caspian, Japanese and Okhotsk seas.
    Make up for the lack of knowledge - Source: http://bastion-opk.ru/podsolnuh/
    In short, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk scans the "Sunflower".

    Of course, I am grateful that you care about the level of my knowledge, but it would not hurt to read the text that you are proposing to READ more carefully. And there, in black and white, in Russian it is written that the first three stations "Sunflower" are installed:
    1. in the region of Kaspiysk (on the coast of the Caspian Sea)
    2. in the Nakhodka area (on the coast of the Sea of ​​Japan)
    3. In Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky. This should be understood by the author and is on the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. With a stretch, you can say so.
    That's just the surface target of the Peter and Paul Station, if it could "look back" would be detected 1,5 hundred kilometers from the coast. Where did they shoot from?

    so in this situation DOES NOT SEE, DO NOT SCAN "Sunflower" of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk
    1. hrych
      hrych 17 July 2017 17: 01
      +1
      It says in black and white that the Sunflower is scanning the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. So there is a selection of articles, rather important for history, where there are snippets of information. In Petropavlovsk, not “Sunflower”, but “Taurus”, maybe both.
      What to argue with the press laughing You can go to the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and catch the incompetence of the Zvezda special cores, although this information is already 3 years old smile
      https://tvzvezda.ru/new/201706291s/opk/content801
      -m16y.htm
      Today, on the balance sheet of the Russian Navy are three “Sunflower” stations on the coasts of the Caspian, Japanese and Okhotsk seas.
      Radar "Sunflower" high-readiness station, deployed in 10 days, and serve it only three people. Those. ten days ago it could be installed anywhere wassat All equipment is placed in two transportable containers. I can’t know how many of them have been blinded to date, but they recently reported about installing them in the Arctic.
  11. Old26
    Old26 17 July 2017 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    What to argue with the press laughing You can go to the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and expose the Zvezda special correspondents to incompetence, although this information is already 3 years old

    Yeah, dipped. From the North Caucasus to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. It is impossible to believe any information of any channel by definition. These military commanders can lie and take inexpensively, or supplement what they were not told. In any case, the radius of the radar, even if it looked towards the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, does not allow scanning the entire water area. The range of the "Sunflower" is not enough. Although, in principle, all this talk about locators is off topic ...
  12. old man46
    old man46 22 July 2017 17: 27
    0
    Our aviation is the best in the world to Americans. Oh, how to learn. They only know how to talk. They’re stupid boots.