In the Russian Federation created a helicopter to fight terrorists, based on the Syrian experience

Holding "Helicopters of Russia" (included in Rostec) at the MAKS-2017 air show will present for the first time a modernized military transport helicopter Mi-171Ш-ВН designed to support the actions of special forces in carrying out anti-terrorism missions, reports TASS message of the press service of the holding

Mi-171Sh-VN is the latest modification of the military transport helicopter Mi-8 / 17. The updated machine is ready for delivery to potential customers, its production is deployed at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant

- said the company.

The technical shape of the Mi-171S-VN helicopter was formed taking into account the experience of combat use of helicopters, including in Syria.

archive photo: Mi-171Sh

The Mi-171Sh-VN helicopter is equipped with powerful engines with improved altitude-climatic characteristics and a new carrier system. The machine is equipped with composite rotor blades with a new profile and an X-shaped tail rotor. Thanks to these innovations, the cruising and maximum speed of the helicopter are increased to 260 and 280 km / h, respectively, and its maximum take-off weight - to 13 500 kg.

The helicopter is equipped with a new composition of flight-navigation equipment. At the same time, to increase combat survivability, the combination of a "glass cockpit" and reliable analogue instruments is applied. In addition, the machine is equipped with the "President-C" defense complex, which automatically detects the launching of missiles by helicopter and implements interference to the heads of their guidance and the release of false thermal targets.

To protect personnel, the crew and cargo compartment floors are completely covered with removable lightweight Kevlar armor. Also, Kevlar armor is installed along the left and right sides to the level of the portholes. In order to increase the survival rate of personnel in the event of a “hard landing” of a helicopter, installation of energy absorbing amphibious seats is provided.

The Mi-171Sh-VN helicopter has a new weapon set. The main feature was the fact that, along with small arms and guns, unguided rockets and bombs of various calibers, it is equipped with a complex of guided missile weapons with a sight-sight system. In the openings of the left and right doors are two machine guns caliber 12,7 mm. Two special machine guns of the same caliber are mounted on special suspension farms.

Comments

[MPK105]

Voooot ..... It's no wonder we are there .... At least something useful has been developed there.

[DEPARTMENT]

It would be necessary to check in a combat situation, and then already shout!
And what's on top of it? Air conditioning .. hehe

[MPK105]

You will not please-noah, bad, cheers, I again do not thank God ...

[St Petrov]

You can’t please, noah, bad, cry cheers, again not thank God ... laughing laughing hi

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: MPK105

You will not please-noah, bad, cheers, I again do not thank God ...

Your cheers are always secretive with maliciousness .. Here I am and be safe!

[Filxnumx]

this ROM is a dustproof device of a new design instead of old "fungi" to protect the compressor blades from sand and dust.

[Evil543]

Two Chechens were not enough to understand what is needed?

[Alex_Rarog]

Chekhov was beaten from the ground. A barmaley from the air. Cohceptions are different. You have tode.

[Evil543]

What did the turntables not use? And the cabins of eights were laid by crews for beauty with armor plates?
Pysy. After flying in the mountains on a turntable, the roller coaster doesn't stick

[abrakadabre]

After flying in the mountains on a turntable, the roller coaster doesn't stick

These slides were brought to America in due time from Russia. And there they are called roller coasters. If anything.

[siberalt]

So, according to a proverb, there is no silver lining. This is a helicopter - "special forces".

[Partyzan]

It’s not in vain that we are there ..

it means no wonder the guys died

[vch]

And after that there are still those who scream - why did we climb into Syria !! How many new developments have already been worked out or changes made during this company !!

[Muvka]

Then there was no money.

[Monster_Fat]

It looks (meaning description) impressive ..... "ah, the car is where?" ("Watch out for the car") ....

[WUA 518]

Quote: Monster_Fat

It looks (meaning description) impressive ..... "ah, the car is where?" ("Watch out for the car") ...

Well, outwardly it will look like this. Although the Czechs and Afghans came to this in 2012.
Personally, I am against the installation of weapons in two openings.

[Monarchist]

WUA 518, I personally do not see anything shameful in 4 "cords". My cousin said: they were happy when the “pinwheel” hung above them, and the “spirits” were awkward. So, let them put in 2 openings, if necessary, they can always be removed

[WUA 518]

Quote: Monarchist

if necessary, they can always be removed

Usually quickly and easily removable in practice ends with a hard wedge. Such installations were used in Afghanistan. But there is no need to talk about any course angles of fire.

[commander]

So the time has come for the installation of an automatic system, as the Kalashnikov boats developed.

[Evil543]

Maybe it’s suitable for the desert, but as in Chechnya, you can’t see it in the trees at speed. But in which case you will spend time releasing the exit

[WUA 518]

Quote: Evil543

But in which case you will spend time releasing the exit

I agree.

[Evil543]

We used pivot settings

[Monster_Fat]

"Nooh ... Where's the car?" I can fantasize on this subject as I like, I need facts .... And the facts are such that no one has seen this car ... And that means .... it is not.

[Evil543]

So they wrote, they will present at max. Come, take a look, and then with the conclusions here.

[fzr1000]

And who are you? He needs facts.

[bad]

Yes, at least annihilate .. ask your CIA for facts ..

[Banishing liberoids]

Well, they created a new model, and here a very deep modernization!

[marmalade]

The news is good .... but anyway, it was better and more useful to work out on the races in the Donbass

[Winnie the Pooh]

Something fast, most likely the helicopter was developed far from Syria.

[Tusv]

Quote: vinipuh

Something fast, most likely the helicopter was developed far from Syria.

The concept of Mi - 8 was developed under the king of peas. Then they hung the radar, upgraded the weapons complex, steel contours more elegant

[Winnie the Pooh]

Clearly, I thought they were done from scratch.

[Zaurbek]

Do you think that only you have tubes with WMD by the time they find it?

[ProkletyiPirat]

this is a no brainer, most likely they simply arranged the elements differently or tweaked the existing analogue ..

[Tusv]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

this is a no brainer, most likely they simply arranged the elements differently or tweaked the existing analogue ..

Does the eighth have analogues? Now the EW complex has been screwed to a heap

[Zaurbek]

Ideally, you need a transporter following the example of the Hawk. Based on the Mi-28. With spaced engines, a low beam and all the “special” measures to duplicate important systems. Not with such a strong reservation as the 28th ...

[Black Colonel]

Well, what is ideally needed - there are specialists for this. The problem is the speed of making changes to the "body kit" of the helicopter. And not just a helicopter. Take at least the T-72B3. You see - sheer bewilderment at the remote sensing, especially on the tower. The cracks are such that the dog will crawl through, not to mention the shell.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Zaurbek

Based on the Mi-28.

What is the transporter to do there?

Quote: Zaurbek

With spaced engines

They are already spaced.

[Zaurbek]

I'm talking about a transporter with a carrier system and engines like the Mi-28 ...

[faiver]

if you take it to the left, now it’s clear why they couldn’t deal with the terrorists in any way - there wasn’t such a helicopter .... and now we are uhh ...
the heading does not correspond to what is written, we have these modifications mi-8 for 50 over the years stamped wagon and a small cart ....

[Evil543]

It’s just after so many years that they have taken a little care to protect the crew and the landing force. And earlier, as they say, "the rescue of drowning people was the business of the drowning themselves"

[CorvusCoraks]

Quote: Evil543

"the rescue of the drowning was the business of the drowning"

Before, as they say, Komsomol still give birth.

[Monarchist]

Quote: faiver

if you take it to the left, now it’s clear why they couldn’t deal with the terrorists in any way - there wasn’t such a helicopter .... and now we are uhh ...
the heading does not correspond to what is written, we have these modifications mi-8 for 50 over the years stamped wagon and a small cart ....

Rather, it was said "Russian helicopters presented to the public the NEXT modification of MI 8". In principle, they are right: why "fence a city" and create a helicopter from scratch, as well as a well-developed model and its a little shaman and forward.

[behappy]

The Mi-171Sh-VN helicopter is equipped with powerful engines with improved altitude and climatic characteristics and a new carrier system.

What kind of engine?

[Voenoboz]

Improvements have been and always will be, the style of military operations is changing, and approaches to them are changing.

[Walanin]

The machine has composite rotor blades with a new profile and an X-shaped tail rotor.

In the photo, the three-blade tail rotor. There is no X-shape.

[Observer2014]

In the Russian Federation created a helicopter to fight terrorists, based on the Syrian experience

I don’t know, it’s important that I say it. But in my personal opinion, our guys from the MTR need a modification of the helicopter that works as quietly as possible. Naturally, not pleading with all the current modifications. And in the distant future, and with inconspicuous technologies .. But to begin with, the sound would be removed to the Apache level at least. Why the Apache All the rest and their helicopters and ours are “booming” more. I heard and saw it myself repeatedly.

[WapentakeLokki]

The one in the picture is no X-shaped tail rotor. not seen and how to understand it

[HEATHER]

In the photo Mi171Ш. Therefore, there is no X-shaped tail. The news is not bad, but I also want to see the photos of VN. The guys from U-Oise are silent like a fish on ice.

[parkello]

It would be better if the Mi-26T would be booked. They would hang up a weapon and would be used as an escort or support vehicle. and then they are sculpting a hunchbacked here ... out of the blue. Mi-8 he was and remained Mi-8 ...

[HEATHER]

Mi-26T? Are you kidding? And what tasks will the reserved monster have? Destroy the dam, sink the AUG, destroy a small country, such as the United States? Laughter and sin! And it’s already far from Mi-8, Mi-8. Turn it around. What happened and what became is a sparrow in the past, and Kite now. It looks like it’s better not to know what is inside.

[parkello]

in general, yes, but you laugh in vain and amuse yourself. it must be booked thoroughly at the beginning, equipped with equipment at its level. and this will make the construction very heavy, by half. and even more. but it is necessary that in case of getting into it all this would not collapse immediately down. and to carry a dam there or a small town just for him the tasks will be. such a flying command post with the possibility of fire support for the advancing paratroopers or marines ... yes to anyone. from sides and stern reinforce with guns as on the MiG-31 6 * 23 mm which. and the sides are completely covered with NARS and ATGMs. and let’s say it hangs on 4-5000 m, let’s say, and watch from above how things are going on, and if something happens, they’ll get from above where they’re not getting from the ground. even a large-caliber gun can be installed on such a colossus, there 100-115 mm. and this is quite a bit and even from the air.

[Zaurbek]

And under the NURS Wing from the Tornado 300mm system?

[parkello]

Zaurbek, it’s possible from Tornado ... yes, even from Pinocchio)) it will be like we said in the Caucasus, just on a mattress)) but if without jokes. it can turn out really flying horror. Imagine how much he can throw on the heads of unrepentant enemies? so many ordinary 0.25 tons of fabs ... what a carpet bombardment will look like. and two guns 6-23 or 6-30 is a serious argument. it’s almost impossible to bring down such a helicopter if there are no fighter aircraft and ground radars

[Zaurbek]

1-2 complexes such as Stinger or Needle ... and that's it. And then the Cornet. There everyone has a range of up to 6 tons. and even 30mm guns effectively shoot at 2-3 tons. Such a scam has already been invented by the Americans:
https://topwar.ru/9573-ac-130-tyazhelovooruzhenny
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[parkello]

the stinger range is 4.5 thousand meters, and the height is even less. and from the air 30 mm does not tickle at all ... but tears to pieces. so Zaurbek, you won’t take this car with any stingers or cornets. and amers C-130, not a helicopter.

[Zaurbek]

I mean, the S-130 is a much faster machine with armaments up to 105mm and it doesn’t apply if there is a threat of using MANPADS or short-range air defense like "OCA". And the reach of modern MANPADS is 5-6km.

[parkello]

Zaur, the Si-130 is a plane. It cannot hang, and the Mi-26 has this opportunity. modern MANPADS this Verba has 6 km .. no one else so far. they can say anything that even satellites shoot down .... I had 3 Stingers and 3 of their appliances in my company. and shooting from them for 2-3 km if you have time. if they leave for 4-5 km, then you can not get there. It's not so easy . there you need to set up the scope at the beginning, connect the battery, just wait for the target or whatever you shoot. and if you put good equipment on the Mi-26, with the ability to observe and detect and coordinate the situation, then how flying fire support of an entire company of infantry fighting vehicles is not enough. For 52 km, the Ka-30 detects large targets, further simply restrictions on the radius of action of the weapons interfere. Well, like Hermes can be run in .. supplement. and here is such a mercenary reticence .. the whole Mi-26 and estimate it to be booked from hits, and that the combat load will remain transferred to weapons and fuel. Well, to work on the identified goals from a distance. it can then hang in one place. and a hovering helicopter is hard to detect. He is almost invisible on the radar. because the Americans are afraid of the Wasp, because the plane will be immediately spotted, and the pinwheel isn’t ... only if you know in advance the whole place from where it will take off ... sorry any equipment will be forcibly landed there. amers do not have such a helicopter capable of carrying a 105 mm gun on board. Chinook will not pull. maximum two gatling. and then cross country it will be hellfire. there is a quarter or a small forest, and 105 mm is already quite serious. in addition, the Mi26 will always be able to hide behind the terrain. trees, mountains, houses, hills, etc., but the plane cannot.

[Zaurbek]

Now imagine what kind of carcass it will turn out ... MANPADS landed everything flying even 5000m in Syria and Donbas. Attack helicopters and attack aircraft without loss can not be so low. And you offer a wagon of 100 tons that would fly over the battlefield. Okay, you don't like MANPADS. And anti-aircraft guns from 30mm and above? Let's say 57mm?

[ver_]

Quote: Muvka

Then there was no money.

..cat Matroskin - * .. we had no mind .. *

[Nikolay Vozisov]

Install the S-60 automatic gun (caliber 57 mm, rate of fire 120 rpm, HE shell weight 2,4 kg) through the rear cargo opening and the gap in the bottom, as close as possible to the center of mass with the possibility of shooting down at an acute angle. Before installation, remove everything unnecessary from the gun (machine and tube amplifiers, actuators, frame, shard from shrapnel and other unnecessary devices). Leave manual aiming mechanisms. The remaining weight of the gun will not exceed 1 t. (Barrel weight 330 kg). When firing a gun in flight, the helicopter will receive additional acceleration forward and upward due to recoil energy. Each accurate shot from above, armor-piercing in a lateral projection or even more so in the rear, is the death of Leopord, Markov or Abroms. A helicopter armed with an S-60 anti-aircraft gun is a guaranteed shooting of a column of bearded vehicles with a length of 2 km in 10 sec. 20 shots (persistently with HE shells). This will result in large savings in kerosene, while increasing the speed of the helicopter. As well as the withdrawal of MANPADS missiles and other foreign objects flying in pursuit of a helicopter by a blast wave of a shot. When will our valiant armed forces get into service helicopters armed with the S-60 anti-aircraft gun ??? (the projectile departure speed is 1000 m / s. when firing from a height of 2 km, the projectile velocity is practically not lost and after 2 seconds it will hit Abroms).

[strannik1985]

Affiget. And in our region, the promka supplies the helicopters AA ATGMs "Sturm" and "Attack" with a firing range of up to 6-8 km. Fools, huh?

[Alexey-74]

In how, maybe you are respected in the design bureau of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ???

[Alexey-74]

Judging by the description, they made a very good version of Mi, both defense and weapons, plus a complex of guided missile weapons is added. Such developments, especially given the real combat tests are very welcome!

[Urantian]

They will test them for ten years, then put them into production for another ten years ..., they will produce ten pieces a year .... and so with us everywhere ...