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Former US Secretary of Defense: Russians are drawn to the Soviet

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As former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter believes, the Russians started an “old game” from the Soviet era: when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow needs proof. On the prospects for cooperation with the Russian ex-head of the Pentagon speaks with skepticism.




About this former US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter said in an interview with CNN, reports "RT".

A retired military official looks skeptical about the prospects for cooperation with Russia in the field of cyber security. In his opinion, serious measures should be taken to counter Russia in Europe and strengthen the US nuclear arsenal.

According to E. Carter, Russians need to be recognized as guilty guys, and not reliable partners. “The Russians, judging by my experience,” he said on the TV channel, “started an old game again, rooted in Soviet times: when they are accused of having done something wrong, they ask for American intelligence [produce evidence] - old trick. Then they propose to create a working group, in this case on cybercrime. This can be compared with the fact that the guy who robbed your house suggested setting up a robbery working group. But they are to blame! ”

On the other hand, this does not mean a break in relations with the Russians. On the contrary, it is “perfectly normal” to discuss with them “many topics”. Carter doesn't see anything “shameful” in the dialogue: “you need to talk to people”. The question is, "what to say."

At the same time, the ex-minister demands "consequences" for Russia. For everything that the Russians have done: “We will have elections in a year and a half: state, municipal and national. In addition, elections will be held in other countries. It is important that the consequences come to the Russians because of all that [what they did].

As for Putin personally, Carter apparently considers the “old game” mentioned as a model of his behavior. Hence the thesis about the need to protect against Putin.

In order to protect, I consider it necessary to actively oppose Russia in Europe, place new American formations there, create a new tactic for NATO. Therefore, I am extremely skeptical about cooperation with Russia in Syria, so I think that we need to recapitalize our nuclear arsenal, since they are obviously building up theirs.


It seems that in the United States created a new state of affairs. If until now the “former” of various ranks (from defense ministers to White House advisers) were severely criticized by the current administrations and congressmen, especially with regard to foreign policy, now there is a new trend: there is complete agreement on foreign policy between former and current ones. Russia is recognized as the number one enemy, and the buildup of military potential, which Mr. Trump actively preaches, is not only approved, but is also declared insufficient.

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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 10 July 2017 07: 54
    +11
    As an adequate person, after such statements by this organism, he can accuse Russia of some sort of aggression or preparation for any invasion. Carter directly calls for war with Russia.
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 10 July 2017 07: 57
      +6
      Moscow is being blamed for something, Moscow needs proof

      E. Carter - you are DB And do not dare to demand evidence. Otherwise, you'll still be a "scoop".

      the military building that Mr. Trump is actively preaching
      Trump is actively selling iron around the world. But many of our "journalists" will be worn out for any reason and without it. Apparently since childhood, such.
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 July 2017 08: 13
        +5
        Quote: Spartanez300
        As an adequate person, after such statements by this organism, he can accuse Russia of some sort of aggression or preparation for any invasion. Carter directly calls for war with Russia.


        One gets the impression that the western ruling elite, led by the United States, decided to include a fool for their people and make the enemy of Russia for all their flaws and punctures.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 10 July 2017 09: 32
          +3
          According to E. Carter, Russians need to be recognized as guilty guys, and not reliable partners. “The Russians, judging by my experience,” he said on the TV channel, “started an old game again, rooted in Soviet times: when they are accused of having done something wrong, they ask for American intelligence [produce evidence] - old trick. Then they propose to create a working group, in this case on cybercrime. This can be compared with the fact that the guy who robbed your house suggested setting up a robbery working group. But they are to blame! ”

          Former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter is an American student of the Goebbel School of Propaganda. He will go far in his militaristic impudence and impudence, if he is not stopped. Apparently, in his future career after the resignation, former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter is counting on some kind of “warm” place in the military-industrial complex - and he just doesn't give a damn about the USA! The hypocrite is still one!
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 10 July 2017 10: 18
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            He will go far in his militaristic impudence and impudence, if he is not stopped.

            But who will stop him? He is E. Carter! It’s better not to disturb him, he’ll break himself. Here medicine is powerless.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 10 July 2017 10: 05
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          One gets the impression that the western ruling elite, led by the United States, decided to include a fool

          You cannot enable what is enabled by default.
          1. cniza
            cniza 10 July 2017 10: 14
            +1
            I agree, the "sound" reinforced.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 10 July 2017 09: 15
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir16
        E. Carter - you are DB And do not dare to demand evidence. Otherwise, you'll still be a "scoop".

        In general, Carter simply voiced the simplest thing - the allegations on the part of the United States are by no means an invention of the Obama regime. This is a long-established practice.
      3. Dead duck
        Dead duck 10 July 2017 09: 58
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir16
        E. Carter - you are DB And do not dare to demand evidence. Otherwise, you'll still be a "scoop".

        They simply consider any statement, information, etc. - an axiom.
        Accordingly, other points of view, information - are not perceived.
        Quote: Vladimir16
        Apparently since childhood, such.

        Since childhood they have been taught that they are special, the very most, and everything that they do or say is right.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 10 July 2017 08: 03
      +2
      Is Ashton Carter dumb from birth or just pretending to be? belay
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 July 2017 08: 14
        +1
        It looks like he was made a talking head, and forbidden to think.
      2. electrooleg
        electrooleg 10 July 2017 09: 54
        +1
        Judging by the photograph, he imbecile.
        1. Artyom
          Artyom 10 July 2017 12: 17
          0
          the Bolsheviks have long come to power in America! They are guided not by the principle of "presumption of innocence", but by revolutionary Bolshevik instincts.
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  2. svp67
    svp67 10 July 2017 07: 54
    +11
    As former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter believes, the Russians started an “old game” from the Soviet era: when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow needs proof.
    Here are the same "misleading" these Russians who always require some kind of evidence. Russians are just barbarians. The "civilized world" gentlemen believes in the word
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 10 July 2017 09: 25
      +1
      They told you, it’s only the gentlemen who are believed, and who are we?
    2. Felix99
      Felix99 10 July 2017 14: 53
      +1
      The main thing is immediately at the end.
    3. Felix99
      Felix99 10 July 2017 14: 59
      +1
      Very strong evidence
  3. Altona
    Altona 10 July 2017 07: 59
    +3
    In my opinion, it was the United States that started the “Soviet” (if you leave the days of the USSR) game of the Cold War, only at a more dangerous level. And these kind of jokes are talking about American cynicism, and about robberies, then he said it to himself.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 July 2017 08: 00
    +4
    Moscow requires evidence

    It would be odd on unsubstantiated allegations not to demand evidence. Amazing American people, in their "unattainable grandeur" believe that it’s enough to say: "we firmly know that the Russians did it" and that’s enough.
    1. Alekseits
      Alekseits 10 July 2017 08: 10
      +2
      Yes, these are no longer amazing people, but arrogant to impossibility.
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 10 July 2017 09: 14
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      “we firmly know that the Russians did it” and that’s enough.

      and when you can say, "we have evidence, but we will not show it." I quote my wife psaki triumphantly become an expert in "fake news"
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 July 2017 08: 01
    +3
    Poor, poor Carter. With such paranoia and phobia, he will not go far from Forrestal.
    Advice to you, E. Carter, stay away from open windows.
  6. marmalade
    marmalade 10 July 2017 08: 08
    +2
    well for them we will always be communists and enemies
  7. sss
    sss 10 July 2017 08: 12
    +4
    “This can be compared to the fact that the guy who robbed your house proposed creating a robbery working group. But they are to blame!”
    But what about the result, lawyers, the court at last? Or do they really (as Mr. Prokopenko claims) have a completely inadequate judicial system, which means they have no democracy, freedom and all that they love to teach the rest of the world?
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 10 July 2017 08: 13
    +3
    E. Carter - you are D.B.

    Once again you are convinced of the correctness of M. Zadornov: "Well, stupid!"
  9. Per se.
    Per se. 10 July 2017 08: 16
    +4
    when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow requires proof.
    The Yankees are already so insolent that they don't need proof. They bombed Iraq, and no one even answered for the powder in vitro, promised these “gentlemen” of NATO not to expand Gorbachev ... That lying Britain, that their overseas miscarriage is USA, there are no big villains in the world against humanity, and all in hypocrisy, duplicity, hypocrisy of immense meanness, under the guise of democracy. Russia is to blame for them already by the fact that it exists. These gentlemen understand only power, if they are so impudent, it means that not everything is fine with us, and it could not be otherwise if we crawled under their system, in which they have been masters in the world for a long time, if our powerful boys are bad soul and body in their bourgeoisie.
  10. arhPavel
    arhPavel 10 July 2017 08: 23
    +3
    Both the United States and NATO need a goal to justify the huge budgets and the existence of the bloc in the eyes of the taxpayer, for such gigantic volumes neither terrorism, nor North Korea, nor any Middle Eastern kings there are suitable. There is either China, but damn it .. there are a lot of them and there are a lot of investments, or the former RF of the USSR is just bingo :) we will make the enemy from the Russian Federation poor, few, and are in the same place as the USSR. You don’t need to change anything, just change “Soviet” to “Russian”
  11. last
    last 10 July 2017 08: 34
    +2
    Actually, demanding evidence is normal practice.
  12. Ural50
    Ural50 10 July 2017 08: 42
    +1
    Well, erysipelas.
  13. Andrey Panov
    Andrey Panov 10 July 2017 09: 00
    +1
    One must take a word, the other should be deprived of the veto, who is next in line?
    Where is the world heading?
  14. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 10 July 2017 09: 12
    0
    It seems that all nomenclature comrades, regardless of any affiliation, have a "roof" that flies away forever, that’s all
  15. Platov
    Platov 10 July 2017 09: 16
    0
    Lesbian ... They are all not so traditional ... m ... let's say preoccupied laughing
  16. NordUral
    NordUral 10 July 2017 09: 19
    +1
    As former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter believes, the Russians started an “old game” from the Soviet era: when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow needs proof.

    What did you think, my friend? This is not poker to take your word for it. Passed already, and that's enough.
  17. CONTROL
    CONTROL 10 July 2017 09: 56
    +1
    ... in the dictionary of modern neologisms there is such a term: "stubborn" ...
  18. The brightest
    The brightest 10 July 2017 10: 05
    +2
    If he robbed a house, then to the court - the investigation provides evidence of his guilt ... The United States started an old game, blaming it without evidence.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 July 2017 22: 59
      0
      THESE did not stop their favorite games.
      1. The brightest
        The brightest 11 July 2017 06: 48
        0
        I did not say that they stopped, I just built a causal relationship from the contrary, using their own logic.
  19. CONTROL
    CONTROL 10 July 2017 10: 05
    +1
    the name of the espionage detective is: "Selling in the darkness ..."!
    the protagonists are the African mans along with their ice ...
  20. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 10 July 2017 10: 15
    0
    “The Russians, judging from my experience,” he said on the air of the TV channel, “again started an old game rooted in Soviet times: when they are accused of doing something wrong, they ask the American intelligence [to provide evidence] - an old trick. "

    This is unheard of arrogance - to demand proof of guilt)))
    It's all your fault that I want to eat.
  21. segamegament
    segamegament 10 July 2017 10: 49
    0
    If Sovetskoye has absorbed all the best, then I really regret it and look forward to returning, and give the rest of the Soviet Omno and everything Omno Russian to the mattresses, let them run around with it and rejoice ...
  22. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 10 July 2017 11: 43
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    strengthen the US nuclear arsenal

    What can’t you do and what can’t you say, for the next budget cut winked You can even pretend to be a fool wassat
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 July 2017 22: 57
      0
      Not sure what pretends to be.
  23. anjey
    anjey 10 July 2017 11: 58
    0
    in order to protect, I consider it necessary to actively oppose Russia in Europe, deploy new American formations there, and create new tactics for NATO. Therefore, I am extremely skeptical about cooperation with Russia in Syria, so I believe that we need to recapitalize our nuclear arsenal, as they are clearly building up their own.
    nothing compromise one steps to confront with such politicians and politicians ....
  24. rotfuks
    rotfuks 10 July 2017 12: 04
    0
    This E. Carter has powerful logic, at the level of the third class. If someone recognized you as a bad guy, then there is no need to demand any evidence, the prosecutor is a priori right by his logic.
  25. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 July 2017 12: 49
    +1
    ... these are smiling, but without brains, and were (and are) at high posts in the meritosia ... whoever you take is a clown from a lagging circus ... laughing
  26. Flinky
    Flinky 10 July 2017 12: 55
    +1
    They will run into distribution - sooner or later.
  27. Disorder
    Disorder 10 July 2017 13: 08
    +2
    Well this is a mattress. I remember one grimy activist waved a test tube with cocaine from his own stockpile at the UN.
  28. Stinger
    Stinger 10 July 2017 14: 05
    0
    Ordinary American snobbery. With such freaks, no working groups will help. Leopard change his spots.
  29. Will
    Will 10 July 2017 14: 25
    +2
    If only the "Soviet" requires proof, then every REASONABLE in the world is "Soviet". winked
  30. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 10 July 2017 14: 51
    0
    From well done ah!? Type "mustache and tail - these are our documents" ... Type "I'm sure" and the evidence spit on a spit ... In general, the pig will find dirt everywhere.
  31. Sasha sidorenko
    Sasha sidorenko 10 July 2017 15: 31
    +2
    Dumb Americans are eating shit, drinking urine, sleeping with their children and grandchildren, eating their parents. They arrange safaris on people, engage in medical experiments and vivisection wherever they penetrate. Proof of? What for? IT IS OBVIOUS !!!
  32. oldzek
    oldzek 10 July 2017 19: 33
    +1
    And again, nothing new! Remember Krylov’s grandfather: “... you are to blame for the fact that I want to eat ...” but this type forgot that we are not lambs. We have teeth.
  33. razved
    razved 10 July 2017 20: 42
    +1
    What a savage thing, the complete absence of civilization - to demand evidence when you are accused of something. True civilized countries humbly accept all the accusations without any evidence, especially if they accuse the beacon of democracy.
  34. Dmitry Fedorov
    Dmitry Fedorov 10 July 2017 21: 03
    0
    ... the Russians started the "old game" from the Soviet era: when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow requires proof ...


    And, meanwhile, gentlemen are supposed to take a word ...
  35. Markbayukov
    Markbayukov 10 July 2017 21: 12
    +1
    This is just politics, that is, pushing one's interests. There are simply people who care about the country, and there are those who care about themselves, well, plus fools, and how boring without them!
  36. Markbayukov
    Markbayukov 10 July 2017 21: 39
    +1
    I do not believe in a very sincere policy, the question is, who really wants to own the situation out of confidence in the advantages of the red button. And another, great people are not guided by insult.
  37. Markbayukov
    Markbayukov 10 July 2017 21: 54
    0
    Judging by the comments of living people, there is a minuscule.
  38. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 10 July 2017 22: 52
    0
    What a pity that diplomacy is not mistaken for such "burps of shit-democracy" to beat faces in the face as soon as possible.
  39. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 10 July 2017 23: 04
    0
    STGA - is the quintessence of world evil and there is no evidence to prove it !!!
  40. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 10 July 2017 23: 51
    +1
    As former US Secretary of Defense E. Carter believes, the Russians started an “old game” from the Soviet era: when Moscow is accused of something, Moscow needs proof.
    - Unheard of arrogance! laughing
  41. solzh
    solzh 11 July 2017 13: 33
    +1
    Well said: