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Iron Vision Israeli tankers will be taught to see "through the armor"

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Edition DefenseNews reports that the Israeli company Elbit Systems has begun work on the creation of the system IV (not to be confused with the Roman “four”) - Iron Vision. The system promises to be unique in that it will allow the crew to carry out a circular review in the literal sense of “through” the body of the armored vehicle.

What is a system from an Israeli company? This is a set of helmets for the crew of an armored car (tank) with which displays, an accelerometer and external cameras are integrated. The cameras are located around the perimeter of the tank. The display is in front of the tanker's eyes as an option for visualization, which is used in helmets for new generation aircraft pilots.

The image from such cameras is displayed on the display, and a member of the tank crew gets the opportunity to change the viewing angle by turning the head, while tracking the situation “overboard”. The Iron Vision system is designed in such a way that the tankman sees that part of the terrain, towards which his head is turned. It turns out that to review the tankers of Israeli tanks will have to constantly turn their heads, being inside the armored vehicle.

Iron Vision Israeli tankers will be taught to see "through the armor"


The report says that the system of "vision through metal" is being developed for Israeli tanks Merkava IV. The manufacturer claims that Iron Vision will begin to go through a serial installation procedure with the 2020 of the year.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 8 July 2017 06: 14
    +19
    In vain, they didn’t go along the Ukrainian route. Cameras from the intercom are much cheaper and kosher smile
    1. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 8 July 2017 06: 25
      +3
      As soon as the Merkavs find themselves in the ukroin, not only intercom cameras will be added - at least one moonshine will stand in each tank. lol
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 July 2017 10: 27
        +1
        ... and a drawer for lard
    2. Pulya
      Pulya 8 July 2017 07: 19
      +6
      Israeli tankers will be taught to see "through the armor"


      So if I install a camera on my house - then I have the opportunity to see through the walls ???
      wassat
      Well zhurnalyugi, masters cook up headlines ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 8 July 2017 08: 09
        +3
        Quote: Pulya
        So if I install a camera on my house - then I have the opportunity to see through the walls ???

        To begin with, the metal grating does not allow particles to pass through. X-rays and he can pass the falga, and the tin is already cool. The armor of the tank is thick, well, maybe some Hicks bason, such as a particle of God, can pass laughing , so after reflecting it is necessary to return to the detector wassat But the Israelis, after all, are not ordinary guys with their covenant (a transaction certified by circumcisio), so they apparently see through ... everything.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 8 July 2017 11: 53
          +9
          You just do not understand. No one sees through.
          There are many cameras on the tank outside, and they are connected to the tanker's helmet in such a way
          that he sees the testimony of the camera where his head is turned.
          1. hrych
            hrych 8 July 2017 12: 20
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            You just do not understand. No one sees through.

            Yes, got it. You just have to make fun of laughing
            Another thing that bothers
            It turns out that for a review the tankers of Israeli tanks will have to constantly turn their heads while inside the armored car

            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 July 2017 12: 28
              +12
              That is, you propose to make a mechanical device that would twirl their head?
              1. hrych
                hrych 8 July 2017 12: 35
                +1
                Quote: Shahno
                That is, you propose to make a mechanical device that would twirl their head?

                No, it’s easy to finally replace a person with a robot and not toil laughing (The robot does not need to twirl its neck, but this network of cameras will be its eyes. And when high technology comes down to spinning the head, something went wrong. Better yet, study with the Pope, he has a mobile pope with transparent with your head, you can see everything wherever you want laughing
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 8 July 2017 13: 07
                  +4
                  We are trying.
                  "Bionic Hornet"
                  Using nanotechnology, a machine is being developed that is no larger than a hornet, capable of chasing, photographing and destroying an enemy

                  Eyeball
                  Another miniature reconnaissance robot, Eyeball, developed by ODF Optronics, an Israeli defense company, is a rubber ball the size of a baseball with video cameras embedded in it. A soldier throws it manually into the territory of the enemy to study the situation. Used Eyeball in Operation Cast Lead

                  Marine robot
                  The robot boat Defender, developed by RAFAEL Corporation to protect the coastline from attacks from the sea, has 9 m in length, an air cushion with an armored hull. Radius - 20 km. "Defender" is equipped with four security cameras, and other equipment for reconnaissance and surveillance. The Defender is armed with Mini Typhoon machine guns, also developed by RAFAEL

                  VIPeR
                  The VIPeR combat robot, developed in 2007 by Elbit Maarahot (Elbit Systems) in conjunction with Galileo, was created for reconnaissance and combat in urban areas, as a field engineer. He is able to conduct automatic fire and throw grenades. The VIPeR is armed with a specially made silent mini-version of the Uzi submachine gun in 9 mm caliber, on which the laser sight is mounted.
                  The weight of the robot is 12 kg, length is 36 cm, width is 36 cm, height is 22 cm. It is able to overcome various obstacles, for example, it can climb stairs. Memory and artificial intelligence allows the robot to find the way to the base to the operator.
                  Among other things, VIPeR has a device for detecting explosives, as well as video cameras (including night vision) and microphones for listening.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 8 July 2017 14: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Shahno
                    We are trying.

                    And we are trying to burn all this economy directed microwave wassat
                  2. region58
                    region58 8 July 2017 20: 39
                    +3
                    Quote: Shahno
                    Eyeball

              2. t7310
                t7310 8 July 2017 16: 07
                0
                That is, you propose to make a mechanical device that would twirl their head?

                so that there is a joystick that turns the chair (it is better of course the Schaub was spinning virtually)
              3. Goblin13
                Goblin13 8 July 2017 18: 05
                0
                It is desirable in one and it will be enough for 360 degrees at once. Further actions of the device and the tanker will not interest us
            2. Pulya
              Pulya 8 July 2017 13: 15
              +3
              Yes, got it. You just have to make fun of laughing.

              drinks
              Another thing that bothers
              It turns out that for a review the tankers of Israeli tanks will have to constantly turn their heads while inside the armored car

              And this is generally a masterpiece!
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 8 July 2017 12: 32
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            You just do not understand.

            Yes, the mustache understood ... well, the guys "a bit like a little" ...
          3. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 8 July 2017 13: 05
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            he sees the testimony of the camera where his head is turned.

            And on Muya ento nadot .... twirl head? What does not suit you a display with a "circle divided into radian sectors"? With "manual" and automatic viewing modes? “Pairing” with KAZ ...: the “monster” fired from the “machine gun” -KAZ, using its detection system, displays the desired “radian” on the monitor ...
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 July 2017 13: 21
              +4
              Yes, everything is fine in the helmet will be a combined system. Full BP and sector-by-sector review. This author joked like that.
          4. Maz
            Maz 9 July 2017 11: 11
            +1
            Poor tankers - such a high-tech is a direct path to the ophthalmologist for the entire crew. Work for eye sockets in Israel is provided.
      2. hrych
        hrych 8 July 2017 08: 25
        +11
        Quote: Pulya
        the creation of system IV (not to be confused with the Roman "four") - Iron Vision

        By the way, many (especially journalists who are able to see through the armor) do not know that the Romans indicated the numbers with letters: one is the Latin letter "I", five is the Latin letter "B", ten are "X", one hundred "C" and they completely coped with this set of letters

        They would designate the 20th century as the 1th century. Before Peter, Russia also used the alphabetic designations of numbers. Moreover, if the Romans combined "I" and "B" denoting from 9 to XNUMX, we did not have this, each digit corresponded to a letter. What did not make the spelling more cumbersome than even the current Arabic characters

        And the so-called Arab, which the whole world is now using, of course not Arab, but created by the Indo-Aryans and initially displayed the number of angles (sharp and straight), and a tidy zero of corners does not have at all
        1. Pulya
          Pulya 8 July 2017 08: 48
          +5
          grunt well you and .... fellow
          1. hrych
            hrych 8 July 2017 09: 53
            +4
            Quote: Pulya
            grunt well you and ....

            Ohhh, this is very important for understanding historical processes. smile
            Of course, the Romans still had fifty — Latin “L,” five hundred — Latin “D,” and one thousand — Latin “M,” but when they needed to appeal with huge numbers such as millions, the designations became so cumbersome that it led to stagnation in the calculations of Latin civilization. The same peoples of Hindustan and Persia achieved much more in calculations, especially cosmic values. Therefore, the Astrology of Zoroastrianism hails from there. As well as mysterious vimanas, etc. It is simply impossible to make decent calculations with such as Roman numerals. So civilization ran into the limits of development, no more and no less. And stagnation leads to the inevitable death that the Goths and Turks did.
        2. Login_Off
          Login_Off 9 July 2017 01: 36
          0
          You even count the angles yourself.
    3. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 08: 12
      +4
      I always wondered why all this to Israel ..? There around alone Arabs with Kalash run! Some kind of self-made pipes will be launched towards Israel and that's it .. laughing
      1. Vladimir74
        Vladimir74 8 July 2017 08: 49
        +12
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        There around alone Arabs with Kalash run! Some kind of self-made pipes will run towards Israel


        But you are a dreamer, however.

        10 years ago in the Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah terrorists used Western-made ATGM systems Milan, Konkurs, Metis-M manufactured by the USSR, Russian-made Cornet, Russian RPG-29 grenade launchers and American Tow.
        Iranian S-802 cruise missile, multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) of the Grad type Iranian and Chinese production. Missiles of the Fajar, Zilsal, and Raad-1 class.

        Moreover, almost all missiles have long been terrorists not self-made, but factory production, including Iranian and Chinese.

        And technology saves lives. This is easy to see from the tanks on which the Israelis put Trophy (active tank defense system). During the July 2014 conflict, the system managed to intercept the shots of anti-tank weapons such as RPG-29, Konkurs and Kornet anti-tank systems.

        Terrorists in Gaza have also been using various ATGMs for a long time, including Kornet, J-80, R-160, M-302, and Sejil-55 missiles


        It is in your fantasies that terrorists run in Kalash and use home-made pipes.
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 10: 23
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir74
          It is in your fantasies that terrorists run in Kalash and use home-made pipes.

          Justified Israel? Well, Judas is in your liver ...
          1. Vladimir74
            Vladimir74 8 July 2017 10: 29
            +14
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            Justified Israel? Well, Judas is in your liver ...


            Just showed the stupidity of your statement.
            I understand that you have a fad on Jews and Israel, but to call Israel’s excuse when they point out to you the real situation and that you are mistaken is wrong and stupid.
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 10: 49
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir74
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              Justified Israel? Well, Judas is in your liver ...

              Just showed the stupidity of your statement.
              I understand that you have a fad on Jews and Israel, but to call Israel’s excuse when they point out to you the real situation and that you are mistaken is wrong and stupid.

              Okay, accepted .. hi I will write you to the journal ..! Not bad for a start .. (I’ve divorced you a lot of Vladimirs ..) already 74 wink
              1. Pulya
                Pulya 8 July 2017 13: 22
                +2
                Okay accepted .. hi I'll write you in the journal ..! Not bad for a start .. (I’ve got a lot of Vladimirs’s divorced you ..) already 74th wink

                DEPARTMENT Anneals angry

                The right way to go ... !!!
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 8 July 2017 14: 42
                  +1
                  Quote: Pulya
                  Rightеgo the lnny way ... !!!

                  But you are not, alas. recourse
                  1. Pulya
                    Pulya 9 July 2017 16: 33
                    0
                    My dear man ... I have this way (school education) 28 years ago completed.
                    Yes, I agree there are errors. But we are working on them !!!!
                    wassat
              2. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 8 July 2017 14: 03
                +1
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                Okay, accepted .. hi I will write you to the journal ..! Not bad for a start .. (I’ve divorced you a lot of Vladimirs ..) already 74 wink

                Write to Vital, write. yes Whatever the child would entertain ... winked
                1. DEPARTMENT
                  DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 14: 21
                  0
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  Okay, accepted .. hi I will write you to the journal ..! Not bad for a start .. (I’ve divorced you a lot of Vladimirs ..) already 74 wink

                  Write to Vital, write. yes Whatever the child would entertain ... winked

                  You just have to laugh ..))) And vulgarize everything .. bully
                  1. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 8 July 2017 14: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: DEPARTMENT
                    You just have to laugh ..)))

                    Well, you don’t leave a choice. laughing As you give out something - I can’t get over half an hour from laughter. You are cheerful. wink
      2. Mwg
        Mwg 8 July 2017 09: 59
        +2
        The sight of running Arabs is fun))))
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 10: 20
          0
          Quote: MVG
          The sight of running Arabs is fun))))

          For the Jews this is already like a computer game ...! Here F-35 and installed their electronics there .. (there are many buttons ..) But they are afraid to fly to Syria nevertheless
          1. Vladimir74
            Vladimir74 8 July 2017 10: 31
            +3
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            But they are still afraid to fly to Syria


            Yes, they are very afraid of the reaction of Russia's concern wink
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 12: 27
              0
              Quote: Vladimir74
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              But they are still afraid to fly to Syria

              Yes, they are very afraid of the reaction of Russia's concern wink

              Of course we can smell them .. But let the Arabs do it! Save the crying wall ..)))))
              1. Vladimir74
                Vladimir74 8 July 2017 12: 45
                +1
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                .But let the Arabs do it!


                So the Arabs have already tried several times with weapons that the USSR supplied with the participation of the Soviet military.
                Result we know wink
          2. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 8 July 2017 10: 34
            0
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            But they are still afraid to fly to Syria

            Why all of a sudden? Flew - bombed (fired). A lot of examples.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 8 July 2017 11: 45
              +3
              Nifiga himself, Captain Black for 100 years, only just reached the regiment! Interestingly, Lieutenant Chertyak right now in what rank? winked
            2. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 12: 30
              0
              Quote: Black Colonel
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              But they are still afraid to fly to Syria

              Why all of a sudden? Flew - bombed (fired). A lot of examples.

              From my territory, I would like to add ..! I don’t understand at all, this entire Israeli aviation ...! Well, there are rockets ...
              1. Shahno
                Shahno 8 July 2017 12: 41
                +1
                Air strike is easier. For mobile purposes. Rapid response to changes in the situation. Well, it’s easier to mask the blow.
                1. DEPARTMENT
                  DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 12: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Shahno
                  Air strike is easier. For mobile purposes. Rapid response to changes in the situation. Well, it’s easier to mask the blow.

                  Well, of course, I didn’t think about that ...! Disguise, this is the main goal of THESE!
          3. kpotr
            kpotr 8 July 2017 10: 47
            +1
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            Quote: MVG
            The sight of running Arabs is fun))))

            For the Jews this is already like a computer game ...! Here F-35 and installed their electronics there .. (there are many buttons ..) But they are afraid to fly to Syria nevertheless

            Naturally, after all, they do not want to violate someone else's sovereignty.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 July 2017 12: 32
              +2
              Of course we don’t want to. The less you know the better you sleep. We have no minerals, no water, well, etc.
              1. DEPARTMENT
                DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 13: 41
                0
                Quote: Shahno
                Of course we don’t want to. The less you know the better you sleep. We have no minerals, no water, well, etc.

                The main thing. F-35 bought ...! Take care of them, otherwise the Arabs dream to like in Yugoslavia ...! wink
              2. Maz
                Maz 9 July 2017 11: 14
                +2
                Therefore, you make weapons and sell peace to all of you.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 8 July 2017 13: 56
      +1
      Quote: Thrall
      In vain, they didn’t go along the Ukrainian route. Cameras from the intercom are much cheaper and kosher smile

  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 8 July 2017 06: 15
    0
    It’s just not clear, is this complex individual, or will it be fully integrated into, say, a tank, and be duplicated by the presence of such a complex in the weapons-control system?
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 8 July 2017 07: 02
      +2
      What’s the problem? 10 cameras working constantly around the perimeter of the tank. Each tanker has a helmet with its own accelerometer, its own processor for processing and “gluing” images from neighboring cameras, and its own display. But, anyway, there will be full pairing with the BIOS for target designation and other display ...
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 8 July 2017 07: 43
        +2
        Quote: ZVO
        What’s the problem? 10 cameras working constantly around the perimeter of the tank. Each tanker has a helmet with its own accelerometer, its own processor for processing and “gluing” images from neighboring cameras, and its own display. But, anyway, there will be full pairing with the BIOS for target designation and other display ...


        plane?! what is the problem? two whales, the engine, a couple more things and that's it!
        1. ZVO
          ZVO 10 July 2017 11: 47
          0
          Quote: Maki Avellevich

          plane?! what is the problem? two whales, the engine, a couple more things and that's it!


          If you are not familiar with the abbreviation - AR (and its decoding as Augmented reality)
          If you do not know that this has already begun in 1999.
          If you've never heard of Google Glass, Skully and Oculus helmets, Morpheus, Gear VR, etc.
          If you never knew that the same Elbit already made such a system for pilots F-35
          then ...
          keep screaming ...
          It's so easy.
          Raise your ignorance to a high level
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 July 2017 08: 21
      +12
      They represent it like this:
    3. The comment was deleted.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 8 July 2017 06: 20
    +5
    The idea is certainly not new ... for happiness, I would have shoved a video of the battlefield over the tank from the drone into this helmet ... and since information in real time from the battlefield is important for the commander as air.
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 8 July 2017 06: 27
      0
      Have you solved the problem with motion sickness?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 8 July 2017 06: 28
        +5
        Have you solved the problem with motion sickness?


        We decided ... smile ... naked girls on the screen will show forget about everything.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 8 July 2017 12: 42
          +4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          ..naked girls on the screen will show forget about everything.

          Do you think, comrade Lech, that the European sexual "revolution" has not touched the Jews? winked
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 8 July 2017 09: 55
        +1
        The developers of virtual reality devices a year and a half or two ago reported on the solution to the problem of delay and motion sickness associated with it. Plus, everything here is rather augmented reality, the brain has something to “attach” to - the image is translucent.
    2. bolat19640303
      bolat19640303 8 July 2017 06: 47
      +1
      Indeed - for the commander of the machine such a system. There is no need to “turn the head” to the driver and gunner. And the tank commander’s review should be 360 ​​g.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 July 2017 10: 36
        0
        If someone, in addition to the tank commander, sees a target or danger, the crew will definitely not be worse.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 8 July 2017 07: 11
      +2
      06.20. Lyokha! Yes, everything is fine! Everything goes to the game level. Now it remains to put two guns instead of one. One is firing, the other is charging. You can 80 caliber. What tanks are they going to fight? At 80 they have enough for the eyes.
    4. t7310
      t7310 8 July 2017 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      another video of the battlefield over the tank from the drone shoved

      stare from this article with stereo cameras for oculus rift
      https://topwar.ru/103961-armatu-osnastyat-razvedy
      vatelnym-bla-pterodaktil.html # comments
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 July 2017 06: 38
    +3
    Can’t the tankman’s eyes get tired of these gadgets? And the gunner will also need to shoot.
    1. san4es
      san4es 8 July 2017 10: 40
      +5
      ... And the eyes get tired, and the brain explodes wassat
  5. marmalade
    marmalade 8 July 2017 06: 41
    +4
    Well, in the desert, okay ..... in our conditions, these cameras will be overgrown with dirt and the point will be zero ... and with intensive shelling, how long will they live?
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 8 July 2017 07: 07
      +4
      Quote: Marmalade
      Well, in the desert, okay ..... in our conditions, these cameras will be overgrown with dirt and the point will be zero ... and with intensive shelling, how long will they live?


      Dirt is not a problem. There are many ways to mechanically clean lenses, safety glasses, etc.
      With intense shelling? And when did you see this in recent years? in 1945? When was the last time an art duel of tanks and artillery?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 July 2017 07: 54
        +3
        Quote: ZVO
        Dirt is not a problem. There are many ways to mechanically clean lenses, safety glasses, etc.


        If you go the traditional way, it will not be a tank but a suitcase with vodka
      2. marmalade
        marmalade 8 July 2017 14: 41
        0
        and how do you imagine it? a pipeline to each small cell? you know about shelling what? -the army taught us to break the same “glasses” first and foremost, check and checkmate! -yes and in the city they will never look at this tank .... art duel of tanks? do you think in a war a tank with a tank will never meet? wassat
    2. 34 region
      34 region 8 July 2017 07: 16
      +2
      06.41. Marmalade! That is yes. Here, on a car, the camera overgrows from dirt and snow, and even on a tank everything will overgrow.
    3. t7310
      t7310 8 July 2017 09: 52
      0
      in our conditions, these cameras will be surrounded by dirt and there will be no sense

      according to your logic, the triplexes of the tank are full of trash, because they shoot and dirt, what should I do? where to go?

      shl
      in Israel, mud and swamps say there is also, photo merkava spread in the mud
  6. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 8 July 2017 07: 18
    +2
    Have you seen the human reaction to the helmet of virtual reality?
  7. AID.S
    AID.S 8 July 2017 07: 18
    +1
    The lotion is noble.
  8. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 8 July 2017 07: 46
    +3
    Then they will need silk scarves, like the pilots of the First World War. Do not thank.
  9. Nemo35
    Nemo35 8 July 2017 07: 52
    +3
    Quote: zulusuluz
    Have you seen the human reaction to the helmet of virtual reality?

    Such a tank must be shot from an installation such as an ancient stone-thrower. The blank flies slowly and hits directly into the “head”. Horror for tankers. While getting used to it.
  10. Altona
    Altona 8 July 2017 07: 55
    +1
    Quote: zulusuluz
    Have you seen the human reaction to the helmet of virtual reality?

    -------------------------
    And if you put on the display a video of other content?
  11. faiver
    faiver 8 July 2017 07: 55
    +1
    and when will they walk on water like dry land? hi
  12. mlad
    mlad 8 July 2017 08: 01
    +3
    Always suggestive. But will it be convenient to sit in a tank with this ball on your head, but fuck it in the wall and the helmet helmet, and with these cameras it turns out that the old T 34 is less afraid of firing small arms than a super duper tank.
    1. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 08: 16
      +4
      Quote: mlad
      Always suggestive. But will it be convenient to sit in a tank with this ball on your head, but fuck it in the wall and the helmet helmet, and with these cameras it turns out that the old T 34 is less afraid of firing small arms than a super duper tank.

      And the Jews in FIG .. They will soon start shooting from space on single Arabs ...! They are not correctable in their show. hi
      1. Vladimir74
        Vladimir74 8 July 2017 09: 37
        +9
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        They are not correctable in their show. hi


        That's right, we need to learn from Russia so that without show-offs, such as, for example, the Caspian Caliber from 1500 km on Putin’s birthday ...
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 10: 59
          0
          Quote: Vladimir74
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          They are not correctable in their show. hi

          That's right, we need to learn from Russia so that without show-offs, such as, for example, the Caspian Caliber from 1500 km on Putin’s birthday ...

          Well, we have some kind of "show-off" .. Say thank you, that one accidentally did not fly to Tel Aviv!
          A couple of generals would definitely be shot and the video sent to Israel! laughing We are not guilty .. !!!!
          1. Vladimir74
            Vladimir74 8 July 2017 11: 07
            +3
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            . Say thank you, that one accidentally did not fly to Tel Aviv!


            A caliber shot down by Israel would not help much to improve Russia's image as an arms supplier winked .
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 11: 17
              0
              Quote: Vladimir74
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              . Say thank you, that one accidentally did not fly to Tel Aviv!

              A caliber shot down by Israel would not help much to improve Russia's image as an arms supplier winked .

              Hehe ... Well, they won’t wait! We will poison Arabs ... They will run with sticks, if they are correctly informed about the situation ..! hi
              1. Vladimir74
                Vladimir74 8 July 2017 11: 19
                +1
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                Hehe ... Well, they won’t wait! We will poison Arabs ... They will run with sticks, if they are correctly informed about the situation ..!


                You forgot to put the word correctly in quotation marks.

                And how angry you are belay
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 8 July 2017 12: 46
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimir74
                  And how angry you are

                  Yes, he himself is not evil .... maybe (!) .... maybe he has such a life ....
                  1. DEPARTMENT
                    DEPARTMENT 8 July 2017 13: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: Nikolaevich I
                    Quote: Vladimir74
                    And how angry you are

                    Yes, he himself is not evil .... maybe (!) .... maybe he has such a life ....

                    Life is hard, but you need to work for the good of Russia! soldier
                    1. Nikolaevich I
                      Nikolaevich I 8 July 2017 14: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      Life is hard, but you need to work for the good of Russia!

                      I agree !
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                  3. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 8 July 2017 14: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Nikolaevich I
                    Quote: Vladimir74
                    And how angry you are

                    Yes, he himself is not evil .... maybe (!) .... maybe he has such a life ....

                    Are you right to take a simple official? Crisis, people bear less, how not to get angry here. recourse
                    Quote: DEPARTMENT
                    Life is hard, but you need to work for the good of Russia! soldier

                    Yes Vital, we know yes
                    Semyon Slepakov in “Song of the Russian Official” very accurately described how your bureaucratic brotherhood “for the good of Russia” works. wink
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCEovSva6H4
  13. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 8 July 2017 08: 15
    0
    It would be better not to destroy them with their tanks Palestinian homes taught.
  14. Hey
    Hey 8 July 2017 08: 22
    +5
    During the Second World War, there were instructions on how to “blind” a tank with a raincoat.
    At the beginning of the protest actions in Dombass, it was proposed to stop the spraying of paint with aerosol cans to stop Ukrainian military equipment and paint over the optical instruments of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, thereby obstructing their movement.
    And if in a modern way, come up with a balloon projectile, which, flying up to the tank, during the explosion creates an aerosol cloud, which, having enveloped the equipment, settles on optical devices, sticking, violates their function. Yes, and great accuracy is not necessary. Then finish. You can on the infantry. Glasses, binoculars and other optics become unusable. You can think of something that would not fall under the influence of some kind of convention, not harmful to breathing and eyes, self-destructive after a few days.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 8 July 2017 08: 55
      +1
      08.22. MUD! Is gelatin suitable? And car paint?
  15. mlad
    mlad 8 July 2017 09: 00
    +1
    Suppose a modern tank is coming. in an ambush there is an ordinary BMP 2, demolishes all active armor, optics, a live tank with a 30mm cannon of armor-piercing shells, and what's the use of it, or a sniper for optics
    1. Vladimir74
      Vladimir74 8 July 2017 09: 59
      +3
      Suppose that an BMP 2 is ambushed and a rocket or projectile flies into it and it is already ambushed, but there is no sense in it at all.
  16. Altona
    Altona 8 July 2017 09: 07
    +3
    Quote: mlad
    Always suggestive. But will it be convenient to sit in a tank with this ball on your head, but fuck it in the wall and the helmet helmet, and with these cameras it turns out that the old T 34 is less afraid of firing small arms than a super duper tank.

    ----------------------------
    Don’t forget, my friend, that the Jew is in the tank and he will somehow get out. hi laughing
  17. mlad
    mlad 8 July 2017 09: 17
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: mlad
    Always suggestive. But will it be convenient to sit in a tank with this ball on your head, but fuck it in the wall and the helmet helmet, and with these cameras it turns out that the old T 34 is less afraid of firing small arms than a super duper tank.

    ----------------------------
    Don’t forget, my friend, that the Jew is in the tank and he will somehow get out. hi laughing


    Yeah, he’ll also sell shells to the Arabs laughing
  18. Mwg
    Mwg 8 July 2017 10: 06
    +2
    For the desert itself. Not suitable for Russia: 9 months out of 12 will be covered with mud
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 8 July 2017 10: 33
      +2
      In the desert, dust from the movement of tanks will also be present.
  19. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 8 July 2017 10: 19
    +2
    If such a thing was written about our tank, then there would be no excitement. At times, the Jews then a flurry of stupid malicious snarks.
  20. mlad
    mlad 8 July 2017 10: 28
    0
    Quote: Ken71
    If such a thing was written about our tank, then there would be no excitement. At times, the Jews then a flurry of stupid malicious snarks.

    and I’m not happy with Armata, that there’s only hope for cameras
  21. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 8 July 2017 10: 44
    0
    and don’t go to your grandmother - against the Palestinian armored tanks
  22. san4es
    san4es 8 July 2017 10: 44
    +5
    First, the IV system ... Next is HDMI in the head?
    1. t7310
      t7310 8 July 2017 11: 12
      0
      there are still such (on the screen you can hold and drag with the mouse or arrows in the upper left corner)
      https://youtu.be/vOhX7K3UoIU
      Samsung Gear 360
  23. niksan2002
    niksan2002 8 July 2017 11: 51
    0
    And why look through the armor? When the distance for contact is not less than a kilometer, is there a radar attached to the computer, and it informs you about the situation around the tank. For me, I cleaned it up.
  24. tchoni
    tchoni 8 July 2017 12: 14
    +4
    Drop dead system! it allows you to use the peripheral vision of the tankers in the most convenient and ergonomic way. And if we also combine several spectra, the tankers will surpass the infantry in situational awareness. They can do without it almost)
  25. Operator
    Operator 8 July 2017 12: 38
    0
    Development will go to the basket, definitely - they rule the simplest augmented reality glasses developed by Microsoft and Apple.

    Elbitovskaya crafts - just a publicity move, just to crow, and there at least do not dawn laughing
  26. Compass
    Compass 8 July 2017 13: 21
    +1
    In the movie Babylon of our era, the Russian Depardieu had something similar, only without helmets. It is only interesting that the foreign defense industry of the idea from the movie drags in, or filmmakers use the existing developments, and then there are a lot of coincidences in the last 10-15 years ...
    1. tchoni
      tchoni 8 July 2017 17: 23
      0
      e sorry defense is blunt. and everything stole from filmmakers and youtuber tyry. And then, the western ones. Ours - sorry, but so far in the early 80s, and for plagiarism have not matured.
  27. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 8 July 2017 13: 22
    +1
    Well done Jews.
    Going in the right direction. To this system is still a drone with a long time to barrage add!
    What about the pilots, what about the tankers, who first saw the enemy, he has a higher chance of continuing the battle.
    PS it’s a pity, our equipment samples are the opponents in the commercial.
  28. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 July 2017 13: 24
    +4
    Israel showed this system a year ago at the Eurosatory 2016 exhibition.
    29 companies presented their products. Those interested can see quite interesting devices.




    And to this kid, I have special sentiments good
  29. nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 8 July 2017 13: 48
    +2
    I hope the Israelis succeed in doing everything well. The necessary system, very.
  30. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 8 July 2017 15: 21
    +2
    Interesting development. I found out here and looked there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWb4i6Rb9mY
    Urgent need to create. But, create! Do not cut!
    Yes, outdoor cameras. But, the whole system with software still needs to be created. Now, if Kalashnikov at his own expense manages to develop such a system in a short time, then I will change my mind about this company.
    I realize that "Kalashnikov" is ... in my opinion, but who knows, who knows. Life still causes me some interest in its unpredictability and disregard for common sense.
    By the way, for lovers of dirt - dirt and dust are washed off with special "washers". And fragments on the drum - that is a viewing prism, that a periscope, that a surveillance camera.
    1. t7310
      t7310 8 July 2017 16: 28
      0
      And fragments on the drum - that viewing prism, that the periscope

      you can screw the armored curtains that close when the particle proximity sensor is triggered at high speed
      1. Vladimir Postnikov
        Vladimir Postnikov 8 July 2017 16: 52
        0
        Something similar should have been done for "Almaty". There the tankmen are sitting deaf - "like in a tank." So I was amused by some critical comments here.
        But, Russia is not the USSR. In market realities, no one wants to share development. Now everyone lives on their own. In a centralized system, this issue was resolved more efficiently.
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 9 July 2017 00: 50
      +3
      In fact, the system (its more complex version) has already been created for the fighter-bomber and is being worked out on the F-35. What we were shown is a simplified and cheap option for tanks.

      With cameras, the issue is solved in the following way: they are rather tiny, they are quite tiny and are located in the niches and folds of the tank hull. The cameras are not expensive, installed in excess so that one overlaps the field of "view" of the other and when a camera fails, the overall picture is not much worse.
      Now, about the "urgent creation".
      This system can, of course, work on one single tank. However, the beauty is that it is included in the "network" and must be connected with other tanks of its level, command structures, can receive data from the UAV, units of other military branches, etc. In other words, the philosophy of all this ugliness wink much broader and more complex than it might seem at first glance.
      1. Vladimir Postnikov
        Vladimir Postnikov 9 July 2017 01: 38
        0
        Quote: A. Privalov
        In other words, the philosophy of all this ugliness wink is much wider and more complex than it might seem at first glance.

        Read my "first look" from 2004 of the year. Futuristic story "The beginning of the end."
        http://apn-nn.com/77783-201497.html
        There was outlined the "philosophy of this disgrace."
        Owls are not what they seem
        at first sight.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 9 July 2017 10: 45
          +3
          Yes you are a futurist, my friend! Shaped futurist! good

          I read such works, read them ... Only then, for some reason, were they called pamphlets. request
          I even remember the instructions of Glavlit to the writing people (I quote from memory): "Pamphlets, essays and satires, as an effective means of the Soviet central and district press in the process of informing the public about life abroad."
          In those days, pen and typewriter workers were easier. People hawala everything. We were well informed about the hard life of blacks and the unemployed in the United States, laughed at caricatures in the magazine "Crocodile" depicting the unfortunate Americans and happy Soviet workers, from day to day we expected a complete and final collapse of imperialism and firmly knew that in 20 years the Soviet people would live under communism. We were all called none other than "builders of communism," "the vanguard of the working class and the working intelligentsia," "all people of good will" ...

          "Long live the fraternal Palestinian people, moaning under the heavy yoke of the Zionist aggressors, who made their snake's nest with the help of the American imperialists, in the heart of the freedom-loving Middle East! Hurray, comrades!"
          Ah, not for nothing, then they ate their bread in the propaganda and agitation department of the Central Committee of the CPSU! They knew how to knead the verbal husk in a cool slogan!
          Then the Soviet people believed everything ...
          Then, it ceased to be Soviet. Thinking began ...
          And now, he stopped thinking and believes any noodles again ... Alas ...
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 9 July 2017 10: 56
            +3
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Then the Soviet people believed everything ...
            Then, it ceased to be Soviet. Thinking began ...
            And now, he stopped thinking and believes any noodles again ... Alas ...

            Dear you are our wise guy with "Echo matzo".
            Thank you for clarifying our mental and analytical skills. But we, lapotnym, are up to you, fingers are done, oh, how far ....
            And you - do not get sick.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 9 July 2017 13: 28
              +1
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Dear you are our wise guy with "Echo matzo".
              Thank you for clarifying our mental and analytical skills. But we, lapotnym, are up to you, fingers are done, oh, how far ....
              And you - do not get sick.

              Well, since they remembered the matzo, it means that something does not bother you with national pride. With your mental and analytical abilities, lapisnost and so forth. Understand yourself. What did you do, is that you refer to papa and your mommy (may their God extend their years). Here, I can not help it, sorry. If you have everything, I do not dare to delay more.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 9 July 2017 14: 01
                +2
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Well, since they remembered about matzo, it means that something does not amuse you with national pride.

                You have a mismatch - one of the other does not occur. But once they responded, then the message was at the address.
          2. Vladimir Postnikov
            Vladimir Postnikov 9 July 2017 12: 39
            0
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Yes you are a futurist, my friend! Shaped futurist!

            How dirt got out of you. So you on this site, it turns out, wrote your comments only in order to amuse your own vanity exaggerated superiority. And as soon as you were besieged a little, so you began to throw feces from frustration.
            There are a lot of commentators from Israel. There are interesting ones. But such a narcissistic chauvinist comes across for the first time. You have nothing behind your soul except blind chauvinism. Do you want to surprise me? In Russia, as in other countries, such "good" is also enough, even on this resource. Propagandists may not believe what they are promoting. But the chauvinists blindly believe in their involvement in any "chosen elite." The latter are hopeless.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 9 July 2017 13: 22
              +1
              Stop!
              About futurism in all seriousness!
              The prediction is clear. good Yes, the epistolary genre is not honored today. Should have probably put a smiley face? hi How did they manage without them?

              Everything else is also quite serious. Maybe with sarcasm, a bit overdone? Well, oh well, what is already there.
              As for the chauvinist, it is always better to be them than to be reputed. laughing And for the soul, for some reason there is, do not you please worry. hi Blind faith is not, tea, not under the dictator live. In this, the Russians who will give ten points ahead give. lol I will not even compete.
              1. Vladimir Postnikov
                Vladimir Postnikov 9 July 2017 14: 34
                0
                Quote: A. Privalov
                And for the soul, for some reason there is, do not you please worry.

                What you have there, I do not know. Perhaps, but hides so deeply that they themselves have lost. And what you demonstrate indicates the opposite.
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Blind faith is not, tea, not under the dictator live. In this, the Russians who will give ten points ahead give.

                This phrase only confirms what I have already said about you. Vladimir Putin is not a dictator. You can call him king, but he is not a dictator. He, along with his friends, is too afraid to lose power, and therefore he built this squalid vertical of power, and with all his might tries to keep it. As a result, instead of fixing the foundation, he invented the braces that would soon burst with a bang.
                Of the fairly modern dictators, the real dictators were Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet. Putin did not lie there either.
                Regarding the Russians, as well as all the people on Earth, I can only say that if a person is a slave, then no emigration will make him free. And no free man will be a slave even in a slave state. A person can be imprisoned, but a slave cannot be made of him without his consent. Chauvinism is more characteristic of slaves.
                1. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 9 July 2017 14: 47
                  0
                  "Blessed is he who believes, warmly to him in the world!" (C) hi
  31. Berkut24
    Berkut24 8 July 2017 16: 04
    +2
    But through the hole in the armor from the armor-piercing blanks it is visible better. And the hole from the 152mm gift from the T-14 gives an excellent overview on both sides.
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  32. On guard
    On guard 8 July 2017 17: 37
    +4
    Well done, the whole world uses Israeli technology. From medicine with space to growing fruits with vegetables.
    Even anti-Semites cannot refuse them lol
    1. anjey
      anjey 8 July 2017 18: 40
      0
      the whole world also uses Soviet and Russian technologies, space, aircraft, VPC, deep-sea research, medicine and pharmaceuticals, metallurgy, geological research and much, much more, even Russophobes cannot refuse them .....
      1. anjey
        anjey 9 July 2017 07: 55
        0
        and not only with technologies but with a real “product”, there is no sense in listing world famous brands; everyone knows them
  33. anjey
    anjey 8 July 2017 18: 24
    0
    It turns out that for a review, the tankers of Israeli tanks will have to constantly turn their heads while inside the armored car.
    if only they wouldn’t unscrew their heads, otherwise the tanks will remain orphans .....