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Protection Alisova: The boy could die from injuries received before or after contact with the car

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As long as the fairly lengthy investigation of the case, which received wide publicity as a “drunken boy case”, continues, the experts express their views on the situation. In brief, we recall that in the Moscow region 31-year-old Olga Alisova on a Hyundai Solaris car hit a child (Alyosha Shimko) in the courtyard, where he was walking along with his grandfather.

Subsequently, the examination found that the boy’s blood was supposedly high in alcohol. The published information caused a flurry of public indignation, as well as the comments of the person (Mikhail Kleymyonov) who signed such an expert opinion.

Moreover, the protection of Alisova argues that the 6-year-old child died not as a result of hitting the car, but “having received injuries incompatible with life either before or after contact with the car.” Only this statement gives the most real cynicism.

Protection Alisova: The boy could die from injuries received before or after contact with the car


The family of the deceased boy says that the expert has committed an official forgery and a criminal case should be opened against him.

As a result, a comprehensive examination was conducted. It was carried out by the staff of the State Budgetary Health Institution “SME Bureau” of the Moscow Region and the ECC of the MGU Department for the Moscow Region. The examination confirmed that the blood on special tampons really belonged to Alesha Shimko, but did not confirm the content of alcohol in the blood. At the same time, it was stated that the task of determining the presence of alcohol in the blood was not set before the doctors for the simple reason that in this situation it does not affect the driver’s fault, who had hit a child in the yard at high speed.

It should be noted that the investigation established: Olga Alisova did not even press the brake pedal before performing the collision. At the same time, surprisingly, no expert opinions on the state of Alisova herself are published on that day.

According to the father of the child, if alcohol was detected in the blood, it means that the substance could have been injected into the boy's liver before the examination. The Shimko family, and with it the whole of Russia, requires a transparent case management and punishment of the perpetrators, including those who carried out the forgery.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 00
    +7
    According to the father of the child, if alcohol was detected in the blood, then the substance could be injected into the boy’s liver before the examination.

    A dark story ... but there is clearly an attempt to divert the guilty from punishment for killing a boy ...
    you need to look at the circle of acquaintances of the killer lady and her occupation ...
    because it is simply unbelievable that the child was pumped up with alcohol before his death .... at this dose, he simply could not walk and not even cross the road.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 July 2017 07: 07
      +31
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      A dark story ... but there is clearly an attempt to divert the guilty from punishment for killing a boy ...

      What are you seeing here dark? The child of a 6-year-old was declared a drunkard! An examination revealed that the child had alcohol in the blood that was incompatible with life. Do not write nonsense. This girl must be judged, however, like her dad, and sent from large trees to make small ones somewhere in Kalyma, and not to discuss her guilt or innocence. In general, these torsos, called the "golden youth," were covered with frost.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 09
        +3
        What are you seeing here dark?


        How did alcohol in a lethal dose end up in a child’s blood? ...
        tell me clearly the sun ... no need to wave a saber without understanding the essence of the matter.

        At what stage and who contributed to this ... or have you already conducted an investigation and established the circle of perpetrators ...
        Is it too early to judge?
        In itself, pumping up a child with alcohol is a crime ... you have to start from there.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 July 2017 07: 11
          +12
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          How did alcohol in a lethal dose end up in a child’s blood? ...

          And so it turned out, according to the results of the examination! And the question arises, What kind of experts are there?
          In itself, pumping up a child with alcohol is a crime ... you have to start from there.

          You yourself understand what you are writing ... an independent examination later proved that if the child had been so much washed, he would be in a state of coma walking around the yard, without options.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 15
            +1
            And so it turned out, according to the results of the examination! And the question arises, What kind of experts are there?

            In criminal cases, there are sometimes cases when a person can simply be framed ... pour in, inject poison by force to lead the investigation on a false trail ... I hope the trackers are experienced specialists and they will figure out who turned this scam.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 July 2017 07: 18
              +22
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              In criminal cases, there are often cases where a person can simply be framed ... inject violent poison in order to lead the investigation on a false trail ... I hope the trail is experienced and will figure out who turned this scam.

              But am I not talking about that here? A 6-year-old child is declared a drunkard all over the country, so much so that his parents still have to make excuses. Where is this ?! It is necessary to send this abomination in thongs to bunks, but not to arrange discussions. What is not clear to a normal adequate person in this story?
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 21
                +1
                A 6-year-old child is declared a drunkard all over the country, so much so that his parents still have to make excuses. Where is it going?


                I agree with this ... yes, all this is disgusting and disgusting.
                It is all the more important to find and punish the perpetrators to the fullest ... so that more of this does not happen again ... be patient ... wait for the conclusions of the investigators.
                1. ss29
                  ss29 6 July 2017 19: 30
                  +1
                  there is an incident in the fact that alcohol is not detected in the stomach and intestines. those. either deliberately poked into the liver or some kind of disorder during embalming. in a word, Stalin is not enough in such cases)
              2. KUOLEMA
                KUOLEMA 6 July 2017 09: 11
                +13
                You wait a while, I read recently that a dad could open a criminal case on the father’s improper performance of parental duties))) here it’s justice if the boy hadn’t raised the noise and remained guilty, went around the yard and beat up cars that scum still work for us in law enforcement
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 6 July 2017 11: 09
                  +4
                  You wait a while, I read recently that a dad can start a criminal case on the improper performance of parental duties))) here it is rasseyskay justice
                  A story from my personal life ... I ride a bicycle in the private sector along the asphalt road to the hill. I roll slowly. To the right, “ten” flies out from behind the house and into me ... I did not even have time to brake. Flew off for 8 meters. Loss of consciousness, an ambulance ... In the car, two dumbfounded youngsters with the same "chicks" ... At the wheel, a drunken guy smashed to smithereens. No rights, the mistress of the car in the back seat ... I was taken to an ambulance. My friends remained at the scene of the accident, whom I managed to call. So, after lying around at home, he was called to the police. And there they almost made me guilty! Like, did not give way (a hindrance to the right). Then I almost sat down * on ... I then forced the major to get traffic rules and started poking his nose there. From where I remembered the definition of "Main Road" I am still surprised (I quoted him by heart). After all, he kept the rules the last time he passed them (1990). I want to note that those young people were far from being "golden." The usual yard punks are beer lovers. This is how our guardians of the law relate to their duties. And if you show them a bill? I think everyone can give similar examples. By the way, then they took blood from me for AO (alcohol intoxication). But I have not heard anything about that ... female, in terms of blood on the AO.
            2. larand
              larand 6 July 2017 07: 26
              +13
              Quote: The same Lech
              .... I hope the trackers are experienced professionals and will figure out who turned this scam.

              The hopes of the youths nourish. Trackers do not solve anything, others will decide, just as they decided according to Serdyukov, Vasilyeva and others. Now, if the baby had scratched Madama’s great wheelbarrow, then they would have decided everything and the baby’s father would have collected thousands of relatives to repair the cars. And so everything will be hushed up.
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 29
                +3
                Trackers do not solve anything, others will decide, just as they decided according to Serdyukov, Vasilyeva and others.


                In addition to the judgment of man, there is the judgment of GOD ...
                and it will be much worse ... did not believe in it before ... now I am convinced everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds.
                1. larand
                  larand 6 July 2017 07: 36
                  +4
                  Quote: The same Lech
                  ... now I am convinced everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds.

                  Blessed is he who believes, but justice is better in this world.
                  1. a housewife
                    a housewife 6 July 2017 10: 59
                    +1
                    In this world, justice is extremely rare. Moreover, it is not always clear what justice is. Here only one thing is clear - the poor boy not only died, but also tremble his memory, not sparing. all kinds of talk shows ... And I have a specific question. The boy walked with his grandfather. Where is that grandfather? They don’t say anything about him. It turns out that nobody asks the main witness about anything? Or asks? Was there a grandfather?
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 6 July 2017 08: 33
                  0
                  Quote: The same LYOKHA
                  In addition to the judgment of man, there is the judgment of GOD ...

                  Hope for God. but don’t be fooled! wink
          2. Normal ok
            Normal ok 6 July 2017 20: 26
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            And so it turned out, according to the results of the examination! And the question arises, What kind of experts are there?

            I once communicated in a friendly company with an expert of the Ministry of Emergencies for fires (I don’t know the exact name of the position). After the ... -th glass, he admitted that the conclusions of the examination very much depend on $ and connections. In general, nothing new, but I heard personally.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 6 July 2017 08: 43
          +3
          How did alcohol in a lethal dose end up in a child’s blood? ...

          Personally, my opinion is a mistake in the laboratory. They simply mixed up the analyzes of the child and with someone else. That’s the whole story. And then they simply followed bureaucratic procedures.

          Such falsification of results does not make any sense. No matter how much noise there is about a drunk boy, firstly, it is clear to everyone that this is impossible, and secondly, it does not affect the driver’s guilt-innocence in any way.
      2. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        "golden youth."

        Hyundai Solaris

        On such a golden youth would disdain to ride, even here in Omsk.
      3. mixei
        mixei 6 July 2017 16: 47
        +1
        NEXUS, I understand you correctly, you regret that there is no "White Arrow" .. with all that it implies?
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 6 July 2017 07: 13
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      with such a dose, he simply could not walk and not only cross the road.

      Yes, he kind of rode a bicycle. and it’s even more amazing how he even managed to sit on it
    3. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 6 July 2017 07: 20
      +7
      All these nits, led by Alisova in the dock and the maximum time without any appeal. It can be seen with the naked eye that this killer is being excused from the deadline.
      1. KUOLEMA
        KUOLEMA 6 July 2017 09: 15
        0
        and there will be no deadline (track) in the camps, the colony-settlement does not populate a maximum and these are two checks a day and you are free and I think with its connections it will be possible to pass the checks in absentia
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 July 2017 07: 26
      +6
      you need to look at the circle of acquaintances of the killer lady and her occupation ...

      Infa slipped through, the wife of a gangster who is now in prison for extortion. Is it true? request Well, naturally, the crook-knocker ablacats will try for a considerable amount of money, no words, just censorship, it’s a pity that they didn’t beat this chuvirl in place, if it goes on like that. hi
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 6 July 2017 07: 47
      +12
      A dark story ... but there is clearly an attempt to divert the perpetrator from the punishment for killing the boy.

      Madame probably chatted on the phone. In the news, one of the witnesses claimed: she rushed around the yard, while talking on the phone. After the collision, she did not approach the boy, and again she began to call someone.
      The presence of alcohol in the blood of a 6 year old baby is not subject to discussion at all. One forgery is falsification.
      I express my sympathy to parents again. Let's hope that the case will be decided in fairness.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 6 July 2017 08: 05
        +3
        ... before the Alyosha Shimko blood test scandal, questions arose about Kleimenov’s expertise. ... the resident of Zheleznodorozhny Roman Lomov ... told how in 2013 his nine-year-old daughter got under the car.
        "As a result of the accident, she broke her front teeth and received a closed head injury. Kleimenov found these injuries minor and wrote that they did not cause any harm to the child’s health."
        “Despite the obvious - the testimony and the initial diagnosis - he wrote that there was no harm. . “Thanks” to this, the case was launched on the brakes and a few years later closed after the statute of limitations ”,

        And these are not the only unauthorized actions.
    6. adma
      adma 6 July 2017 08: 14
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      there is an attempt to lead the guilty from punishment for killing a boy ...

      How do I apologize? The presence of alcohol in the boy’s blood absolutely does not affect the punishment of the perpetrator of a fatal accident.
      But questions to the parents of the child should appear.
      1. mig29mks
        mig29mks 6 July 2017 08: 45
        +2
        And what are the questions for the parents? Why did the grandson and grandfather slam a liter before going out? How could they even get out of the house after such a dose of drunkards? Do you have logic like that?
        1. CorvusCoraks
          CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 15: 34
          0
          You kind of remember where you live, there are cases when you are 13-16 years old already becoming parents, and many classes start drinking from 2 if not from the 1st, so you wouldn’t be so categorical.
        2. adma
          adma 6 July 2017 16: 20
          +1
          What dose? There are no digits in the text. Or do you have more complete information? Are you admitted to the criminal case file? Or -
          in the boy’s blood - allegedly high alcohol content.
          for you 100% proof of something? Sir, where is your logic in that case ???
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 July 2017 09: 17
        +6
        Quote: adma
        But questions to the parents of the child should appear.

        What are the questions for the parents? Why did the child walk in the yard? Or maybe why the child in the apartment until the age of 18 was not locked up? Such questions?
        Questions should be addressed to the parents of this otter, her thug-divorced hubby and the parents who raised such an abomination.
        1. adma
          adma 6 July 2017 16: 32
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          What are your questions for parents?

          You. Dear - do not distort. Questions to parents should be about the presence of alcohol in the blood of their child. Repeated examination also gave a positive result of the presence of alcohol in the blood. This was stated by Minister of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev. And somehow I believe him more.
          And about the accident there should not be any questions. And the presence or absence of alcohol in the blood of the child does NOT AFFECT the punishment for this crime. If you do not understand this, then excuse me, to prove anything to you is an empty matter. You will distort it.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 July 2017 16: 39
            +2
            Quote: adma
            Repeated examination also gave a positive result of the presence of alcohol in the blood.

            A 6-year-old child ... he’s a straight-forward drunk with experience.
            Quote: adma
            This was stated by Minister of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev. And I somehow believe him more

            Apparently the same as you are an analyst. fool
            Quote: adma
            You will distort it.

            And what did I twitch, dear? In a completely non-drinking family, suddenly a drunk child appeared, and not just a drunk, but a drunk with paranormal abilities — to ride a bicycle in a coma.
            Quote: adma
            And about the accident no questions should be

            Yes you... laughing But I have these questions for 15-20 years.
            1. adma
              adma 6 July 2017 16: 45
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              Apparently the same as you are an analyst.

              Fuuu, sir. You go to the person. It somehow smacks of you by the way. Don't you think, dear? laughing
              Quote: NEXUS
              Yes you..

              Seriously? Wow. Yes, you again, sir, distorted. Oh, you have a straight eye, but an eye is needed.

              Quote: NEXUS
              And what did I twitch, dear?

              And from a sick head to a healthy one. And whatever you shake again is a Russian proverb laughing
    7. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 July 2017 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      you need to look at the circle of acquaintances of the killer lady and her occupation ...

      The husband is the leader of the local organized crime group, sitting on the bunk. Expert see bought.
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      was pumped up with alcohol

      2.7 ppm - it’s necessary to come up with such nonsense! This is at least 0.5 l of vodka!
      1. adma
        adma 6 July 2017 16: 26
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is at least 0.5 l of vodka!

        For an adult.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 6 July 2017 16: 44
          0
          Quote: adma
          For an adult.

          A man weighing 80 kilograms drank 100 ml of vodka with a strength of 40 degrees two hours ago. We find out how much alcohol is in his blood. Can he drive?
          Substitute the available values ​​into the formula:
          A = 0,40 * 100 ml * 0,7984 g / ml = 31,936 g
          P = 80 kg
          r = 0,68
          b60 = 0,13
          T = 2 h
          C = 31,936 / (80 * 0,68) - 0,13 * 2 = 0,3270588 ppm
          100 grams - 0.32 ppm! And there are 2.7 ppm! Count by the formula. hi
          1. adma
            adma 6 July 2017 16: 56
            +1
            According to my calculations, it turns out 50 grams. He took the formula on Wikipedia. The body mass of the boy is 25 kg. Perhaps I was mistaken in the calculations. hi
    8. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 6 July 2017 09: 15
      +7
      But I don’t understand what the drunk, sober, old child is all about. A PEDESTRIAN IS BROKEN BY THE DRIVER. All.
      What are the reasons for this examination? Just to make a fuss. Why is this hype for this young lady a separate question. But note, even we are discussing alcohol in the boy’s blood, and this fact is not essential in a particular case. Who ordered the examination and why, who conducted the examination, whether there was a forgery - these are all subjects of a separate trial. I hope the court.
      1. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 15: 37
        0
        There was a TV broadcast, there the expert explained that in the event of an accident, this is the standard appointment of an examination for blood alcohol, even for the victim. But it is necessary for the pros to clarify whether it is so.
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 July 2017 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      According to the father of the child, if alcohol was detected in the blood, then the substance could be injected into the boy’s liver before the examination.

      A dark story ... but there is clearly an attempt to divert the guilty from punishment for killing a boy ...
      you need to look at the circle of acquaintances of the killer lady and her occupation ...
      because it is simply unbelievable that the child was pumped up with alcohol before his death .... at this dose, he simply could not walk and not even cross the road.


      It can also be said that there is an obvious conspiracy to plant a lady after all ...

      The story is not dark, but vile. I personally hardly imagine a person who injects alcohol into the liver of a deceased child. It’s even more difficult for me to imagine the moral character of a person who invented a story about a doctor injecting alcohol into a corpse to smear someone from the court.
      1. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 15: 37
        0
        Yes, it was more likely that the blood samples were mixed up.
  2. Alex66
    Alex66 6 July 2017 07: 00
    +8
    The authorities should react to such resonant matters toughly and clearly in advance of the announced time and measures not only to the culprits, but also to those who, for whatever reason, helped them to evade responsibility, and not to forget the regional leadership.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 6 July 2017 08: 48
      0
      Quote: Alex66
      The authorities should react to such resonant matters toughly and clearly in advance of the announced time and measures not only to the culprits, but also to those who, for whatever reason, helped them to evade responsibility, and not to forget the regional leadership.

      I absolutely agree with you. The authorities should react not even for the reason that they are all so kind and fair, but because if such cases are ignored or hushed up, the number of citizens who do not trust such a government, and often hate it, will increase multiple . So one unfair decision of a local judge, which has become public, may cause a drop in the ratings of leading political entities. At least about your w .. let them think.
  3. 210ox
    210ox 6 July 2017 07: 02
    +4
    Please tell me, do we have the website of the prosecutor’s office or the Investigative Committee? It is clear that this case is significant and infinitely cynical. But still ....
    1. Karaul73
      Karaul73 6 July 2017 07: 08
      +10
      Yes, you need to write only about how old galoshes plow the expanses of the oceans and wipe away the tears of joy for the great and legendary. Aw, we live in the real world! Such news needs to be circulated through all channels in order to change and improve the power system.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 6 July 2017 07: 18
        +3
        Let's be realistic .. Once we live in the real world .. This news is already several months old .. Yes, the case seems to have become typical of our “buy-sell .. everything and everything” system. Criminality is interlocking with government services. By the way, the wave has already been raised throughout a month ago. I still want to add. I was enraged by one media report on this case .. Kolokoltsev himself stated that alcohol was found in the blood ....
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 6 July 2017 07: 32
        +2
        Quote: Sentry73
        Such news needs to be circulated through all channels in order to change and improve the power system.

        Aw! You absolutely need to sneeze for this case, you need to flood, shout, wake up and breed srach, but I have not heard a single word of sympathy for the child and his relatives. SHADY. Although the meaning of this word is unknown to you. yes
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 6 July 2017 08: 03
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      Please tell me, do we have the website of the prosecutor’s office or the Investigative Committee?
      I have been working as a driver in the prosecutor's office for over 20 years and, poorly, poorly know this kitchen from the inside. And I have questions for this matter. Why not discuss? Moreover, the case is more than out of the ordinary.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 6 July 2017 08: 16
        +4
        Quote: sabakina
        Why not discuss? Moreover, the case is more than out of the ordinary.

        Hello glory hi ! That's exactly what the case is wild, so our commentators do you know you’ll agree that Putin was driving, Medvedev was showing the way, and Trump was pushing. hiaaaaa scream, oh, there’s only zero sense in the output. The rights of Dima OKV are tired of it. Moreover, this is in all media. hi
  4. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 July 2017 07: 03
    +15
    This girl, who does not care about her parent, is imprisoned for a very long time ... everyone who falsified the results of the examination and announced that the 6-year-old child was drunk was put on trial with a subsequent ban on working in the specialty. Well, check the parent of this amphibian for a roll-over borzometer, with the deprivation of all his posts. Let the yards sweep, geek.
    1. Svist
      Svist 6 July 2017 11: 27
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      This girl, do not care who her parent is, behind bars for a very long time ...

      Punishment for fatal accidents provides for art. 264 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on violation of traffic rules of the Russian Federation and operation of vehicles (TS).

      1. If the guilty person was intoxicated, he loses the opportunity to receive a suspended sentence and is subject to more severe punishment.

      2. If one person died, the culprit shall be punished in accordance with Article 264, Clause 3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation:

      forced labor up to 4 years;
      or imprisonment up to 5 years;
      or imprisonment from 2 to 7 years, if the offender was intoxicated (Article 264, Clause 4 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).
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  6. kvs207
    kvs207 6 July 2017 07: 12
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    Please tell me, do we have the website of the prosecutor’s office or the Investigative Committee? It is clear that this case is significant and infinitely cynical. But still ....

    I support. The case, of course, is egregious, but ...
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 July 2017 07: 26
    +3
    My soul seems to understand that defense is necessary in a lawsuit, but sometimes there is a huge desire to “fix” a face to a lawyer.
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 6 July 2017 09: 22
      0
      And what does the lawyer have to do with it? and the expert do not want to fix anything? and for those who took surveillance cameras from home? and for those who haven’t started a month? try sopri goods for a couple of tyrov instantly draw a case and then an accident with a corpse a month the case is not instituted that's where the questions
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 6 July 2017 10: 38
        +1
        Have you read the article?
        Moreover, Alisova’s defense claims that a 6-year-old child died not as a result of a car collision, but “having received injuries incompatible with life either before or after contact with a car”. This alone statement gives real cynicism.
  8. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 6 July 2017 07: 28
    +1
    Even if she is to blame for bringing down the child, she won’t give much, about 3 years! this crime is unintentional! It is ridiculous when commentators about this driver, they say in a credit washer as about golden youth.
    And I want to add that you need to ask a question to the grandfather with whom the child was walking! I speak as a driver: the children and adults are rummaging rushing under the wheels !!!!!!! The grandparents and parents who do not look at what their children are doing are bored out !!!!!!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 July 2017 07: 40
      +1
      Even if she is to blame for bringing down the child, she won’t give much, about 3 years! this crime is unintentional! It is ridiculous when commentators about this driver, they say in a credit washer as about golden youth.

      Something similar happened in my NOVOSIBIRSK when the same lady crushed a traffic police officer to death ... now she walks free and he lies in the grave.
    2. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 6 July 2017 07: 44
      +3
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      I speak as a driver: the children and adults are rummaging rushing under the wheels !!!!!!! The grandparents and parents who do not look at what their children are doing are bored out !!!!!!


      If this happens near the roadway, I agree.

      But: drivers, who do not comply with the speed limit in the local area, are pissed off, park on the sidewalks of shops so that they need to be bypassed on the roadway, at pedestrian crossings (even where there are traffic lights) they tend to slip through faster, pedestrians reach the street lamp.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 July 2017 07: 50
      +6
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      I speak like a driver: children and adults are sick of

      Here, many drivers Konstantin and you, as a driver, must understand that a car is not a luxury, but a means of increased danger, especially in the courtyard, nefig rushes like crazy, I say like a pedestrian and grandfather: such drivers rushing in the courtyard were tormented. yes
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 July 2017 15: 37
        +2
        Quote: vovanpain
        Here, many drivers Konstantin and you as a driver should understand that a car is not a luxury, but a means of increased danger

        Greetings Vladimir! hi
        My friend says so, I sat behind the wheel, the cemetery gate opened.
    4. Svist
      Svist 6 July 2017 11: 39
      +1
      Traffic Laws:
      10.2
      In settlements, vehicles are allowed to travel at a speed of not more than 60 km / h, and in residential areas and in courtyards no more than 20 km / h

      17.1
      In the residential area, that is, in the territory, the entrances to which and the exits from which are indicated by signs 5.21 and 5.22, pedestrian traffic is permitted both on the sidewalks and on the roadway. In the residential area, pedestrians have the advantageHowever, they should not cause undue interference to the movement of vehicles.
      I remind you as a driver ...
    5. long in stock.
      long in stock. 6 July 2017 15: 46
      0
      you drive along the house in the courtyard ... not on the street. and the children leave the playground and go home. Do you have to skip them or not?
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 6 July 2017 07: 29
    +13
    Outrage, drunk children rush under the wheels of cars, and even try to kill themselves!
    Everyone laughs reading the western paradoxes of Themis, but now we ourselves have already begun to turn into a circus. Wealthy and wealthy people show the whole society how the influence looks and what lawlessness means!
    Here is an exam for the Government, we will see how the guarantor of compliance with the law gets out!
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 6 July 2017 09: 24
      +1
      Ai well said krasava plus
  10. RED PARTISAN
    RED PARTISAN 6 July 2017 07: 45
    +8
    The woman should be sentenced to ten years, the expert should be shot in general for a fake conclusion. GDP, finally, must decide on large-scale purges of the state apparatus, otherwise the country risks repeating the scenario of the 17th. Yes, corruption can never be completely eradicated, but it can be reduced many times over in just a couple of years. The fight against this phenomenon requires extreme rigidity, especially in the early stages. It is necessary to restore the "tower" for receiving large-scale bribes and begin to purposefully provoke officials, judges and the police to commit corruption crimes. If the size of the bribe is too small to apply capital punishment, then the punishment should be in the form of imprisonment in a labor camp. In China, such a system has been successfully applied to this day.

    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 July 2017 07: 57
      +9
      GDP should finally
      Did he give you Crimea? Gave! And he owes nothing more. You still blame him that under him such a system was created when drunken boys blood stained cars of respected people.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 6 July 2017 08: 11
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Did he give you Crimea? Gave!


        Well, Crimea, then here, what side ?!
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        2. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 6 July 2017 20: 33
          +1
          "Well, Crimea, here, how sideways ?!"
          Crimea is to blame for all troubles and misfortunes, as well as riots.
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    3. free
      free 6 July 2017 12: 55
      +3
      Well, there are still people who want to vote for the dreary Edro?
  11. viktor.
    viktor. 6 July 2017 08: 07
    +1
    In the state next to the fence, they didn’t think of anything like that !!! on the bunk this mare, there the mother will ask her !!!!
  12. adma
    adma 6 July 2017 08: 07
    +2
    Quote: RED PARTISAN
    an expert should be shot at all

    And someone said that it is fake? BUT we are ready to shoot anyone who will be pointed out by unknown people and for what purpose.
    Let the investigation take its course. The case was taken under control by the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee.
    And we, in this situation, remind a herd of sheep that together runs to where they drive him. They are already talking about a lethal dose of alcohol, about injected alcohol into the liver. Let's see what will happen next.
  13. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 6 July 2017 08: 14
    +9
    The last thing Alisova had to do was get pregnant and get a term with a 14-year suspended sentence, as was the case with Shavenkova, and then burned! - and amnesty. We have cool laws, lawmakers leave a bunch of loopholes just in case, probably for themselves)))
  14. Million
    Million 6 July 2017 08: 17
    +4
    These are our experts and the police ..... The best chicks of Nurgaliyev!
  15. Moskovit
    Moskovit 6 July 2017 08: 41
    +3
    I would like to believe that the public outcry will not let the matter slip on the brakes. I would like to remind Alisov and especially Klamenovy that in addition to shaking hands with investigators and judges, there are people like Vitaliy Kaloev. Given that the child’s father serves in the Russian Guard
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 6 July 2017 15: 49
      +1
      but this is correct. everyone was waiting who would say that. if my child is killed, no one has the right to forbid me to take revenge. this is my opinion. you should be a bastard on an aspen, and then whatever happens.
  16. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 6 July 2017 08: 43
    +1
    FOR COMMENTATORS WHO OFFER ALICE'S SHOOT, WHEEL. HANG. AND THINK THAT SHE IS BLATTERY, SO LIKE SHE WIFE OF THE BANDTIT (on Solaris!), ALSO FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHICH THINK. WHAT THE POWER Bought AND THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING !!!!!! I EXPLAIN THAT THERE IS THREATENING !!!!!!! if commentators themselves cannot read the Criminal Code !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Criminal Code, Article 264. Violation of the rules of the road and the operation of vehicles.
    3. The act envisaged in the first part of this article, entailed by negligence the death of a person, -
    is punished by forced labor for up to four years with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years or imprisonment for up to five years with deprivation of the right to hold certain posts or engage in certain activities for up to three years.
    (in the edition of Federal Laws from 07.12.2011 N 420-ФЗ, from 31.12.2014 N 528-ФЗ)

    I describe the situation: the child himself. due to my grandfather’s oversight, I ran out onto the road, under the wheels of a car. who rode along the road, driven by a sober driver (maybe with a slight speeding) everything !!!
    that is, with a lawyer. without any kind of blat and connections, a person will receive not much (or conditionally) and there is no need to carry out fraud with alcohol.
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 6 July 2017 10: 14
      +1
      She is a former or acting wife, a bandit, and not an official, therefore Solaris. Before you write a capsule, think. 2.6 promoted to a 6-year-old child! Not in a drunk family who doesn't look after children. This Madame is imperative to get out of the water. Therefore, this monstrous operation is being carried out by a corrupt official who has stained himself. Obviously, she could get 4 years for a child. You probably think that it’s easy to sit out for some 4 years and go out with the stigma of a convict. How much did you rewind yourself?
      1. Kostya Andreev
        Kostya Andreev 6 July 2017 11: 14
        +2
        You think it and stop writing. what is a bandit? ordinary black realtor? Shpana sat down in 20 years! or maybe you know something else about him! How dry to get out of the water? She works as a consultant. You understand how much this operation costs to bribe an investigator. doctor and others. take an interest. how they got married!
        To get dry out of the water. compensation is paid and a lawyer with a surname is hired. I did not sit, but I know how to reduce responsibility for the unintentional, but you generally understand. how a person is judged for an accident. I brought you an article about which she will answer. what will she get four years for? for the fact that the child jumped under the wheels? In our city, in a car, I brought down a drunk child on the sidewalk, and they gave me 5 years, and here I’m sober on the road! if something is analyzed, then they will answer for it!
        I explain, Solaris is a garbage dump, it’s a shame to drive such a machine, people who have money !!!!
        1. Moskovit
          Moskovit 6 July 2017 13: 07
          +1
          That is, you quite seriously believe that a child drunk in a hollow ran around the yard ???
          The fact that such people harnessed themselves for the modesty in Solaris - she could give money, she or her husband owed something. Yes you never know. And Solaris does not mean anything. Maybe official.

          At a friend of mine, a friend knocked down a man. Not to death, but crippled. He himself is from a simple family. He was drunk. They sold everything that was possible and got more loans to solve the issue and decided. So let's not measure everything with Solaris.

          Madame popped on the phone, exceeded speed in the yard and is my grandfather to blame? ? What is your cannibalistic logic?
          1. Kostya Andreev
            Kostya Andreev 6 July 2017 13: 47
            +3
            I don’t think of anything whether he was drunk or not, maybe a mistake! This will be determined by an examination, repeated, and if this is a forgery (I doubt, but there may be some kind of function of the body) then there will be a punishment.
            I told you under what article she will be responsible. because she violated this particular law. If you can, please name what article she will answer!
            What kind of people harnessed? call me! enough to compose, the girl has no money, so she was 50 thousand, she could only transfer rubles, and she could not hire a normal lawyer since there is no money !!!!!
            Solaris was bought five years ago, on credit, she works as a consultant in a communication salon, read an interview about her! and then speak.
            this is not cannibalistic logic; these are questions that the court will ask, for example, how do you know that it cracked on the phone and how much did it exceed the speed, and he will ask how and why the child suddenly appeared on the trajectory of the car?
            1. Moskovit
              Moskovit 6 July 2017 15: 54
              +1
              You poorly know the results of the examination of your client. First, an automotive technical examination confirmed that Madame could prevent a boy from running over. Secondly, not according to the testimonies of grandmothers, but from prints of telephone conversations, it was found out that she was talking on the phone.
              The surveillance camera was removed two days later. The entries are gone.
              Her hubby was part of a gang on the account of which there were murders and extortions and received 10 planers. So leave the story of the unfortunate girl to others. The question is that they did not want to punish her at all. Only after the promotion of history in the media did something move.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 July 2017 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      FOR COMMENTATORS WHO OFFER ALICE'S SHOOT, WHEEL. HANG. AND THINK THAT SHE IS BLATTERY, SO LIKE SHE WIFE OF THE BANDTIT (on Solaris!), ALSO FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHICH THINK. WHAT THE POWER Bought AND THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING !!!!!! I EXPLAIN THAT THERE IS THREATENING !!!!!!! if commentators themselves cannot read the Criminal Code !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Dear lawyer, where do you get the rigging of facts, the bribery of expertise, the intent to let the brakes go and slander your parents? At the same time, there is probably a fact of a bribe and not one, and not for a ruble. And then the term is gained, 15 years ... so there is no need to wriggle out of himself a lawyer.
      And if the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs allowed this all, then either he does not have a place in this position, as a result of a negligent attitude to his duties, or he is a direct accomplice. Of your choice. What about the experts? Who drew such a conclusion? To say that they were mistaken and let go in peace? If you unwind this snake’s nest, I think the dock will not be one or two meters long.
      1. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 16: 25
        0
        And you first prove that she is to blame for this. Maybe the expert went wrong (which of course he will not recognize).
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 July 2017 16: 31
          +2
          Quote: CorvusCoraks
          And you first prove that she is to blame

          And the fact that the child was drunk was already proved and trumpeted throughout the country. And they brought his father to the point that he went to the president of the country to look for justice.
          1. CorvusCoraks
            CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 16: 52
            0
            Well, you also trumpeted with yours "to shoot, you bought, golden youth, your husband the leader of the organized crime group (over there ...), you bought everyone."
            "And they brought his father to the point that he went to the president of the country to look for justice."
            Yes, even if he immediately goes to God, Kolokoltsev said that the presence of alcohol was confirmed in the blood. Do you really think that he would take risks and fit in such a situation - do the forgery intentionally? Something the scale of the client is not the same (even if the husband of the accused is taken into account). And if not intentionally, how much fearless does the expert need to be in order to substitute the boss in such a high-profile case? There are options - the blood is mixed up (negligence of the person who kept the blood sample), or negligence at the sampling itself (an example is the use of disposable sampling equipment that has already been used and there were remains of someone else’s blood). But at the same time, it is alleged that 1) the blood sample was just a boy, it was checked 2) the alcohol test was repeated several times for re-testing in different laboratories (according to the expert) ...

            Of course, I understand that the authorities, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the prosecutor’s office, judges, etc. we are not saints, but I don’t see the point in deliberate forgery of blood - this will not help the driver to escape from punishment.
            Well, the second one, and where was the grandfather, who seemed to be with his grandson, you need to watch / teach them at least a little for your offspring, that even on the house road is not safe and you need to be careful.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 July 2017 17: 23
              +2
              Quote: CorvusCoraks
              Yes, even if he immediately goes to God, Kolokoltsev said that the presence of alcohol was confirmed in the blood.

              Is it good to sit here through the lip of a smart self-build, when it wasn’t your child who moved and after that they dragged along the ground? It would be interesting to listen to you, if, God forbid, it would be your son.
              1. CorvusCoraks
                CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 17: 32
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Is it good to sit here through the lip of a smart self-build, when it wasn’t your child who moved and after that they dragged along the ground? It would be interesting to listen to you, if, God forbid, it would be your son.

                And you were so lazy, was this your child? Or maybe someone paid you to show here as much activity as possible, to raise attention to this topic? Every day in an accident 10, 100, 1000 people die (why are you silent on them, since such a compassionate person?), Including children. There are even worse cases - with torn off parts of bodies, for example. And now what am I to experience for every mourning? If you take everything so close to your heart, then you will go broke on sedatives.
                And no one is insured, including your children, if they are of course.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 6 July 2017 18: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: CorvusCoraks
                  And you were so lazy, was this your child?

                  No, not mine ... this is a child of the same father as I. And what? I do not care how you spit?
                  Quote: CorvusCoraks
                  Or maybe someone paid you to show here as much activity as possible, to raise attention to this topic?

                  What can I say? Lavrov said the best thing about such-DB ... fool
                  Quote: CorvusCoraks
                  And no one is insured, including your children, if they are of course.

                  While people like this muskrat are driving and people like you make saints out of them ... yes, no one is safe.
                  1. CorvusCoraks
                    CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 18: 10
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    such as you make saints of them

                    None of them makes saints, but to attribute to them all nonsense, such as they already bribed Kolokoltsev to supposedly leave from punishment, from which they won’t even be able to leave that way.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 6 July 2017 18: 21
                      +2
                      Quote: CorvusCoraks
                      Kolokoltsev bribed

                      Did Kolokoltsev conduct the examination himself? He crowed the result and that’s it.
                      And here is the "ends in the water" ...

                      it turns out to be volatile alcohol, the samples did not reach an independent examination. However, the second examination, which Kolokoltsev refers to, for some reason found alcohol, and even 2,7% ... how it works out.
                      1. CorvusCoraks
                        CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 18: 37
                        0
                        http://www.sudmed.ru/index.php?showtopic=24323
                        And why not, how much time has passed already?
                        "Along with the processes of alcohol neoplasm in the corpse, its destruction is also observed. In this regard, in the study of rotting corpses that obviously contained ethyl alcohol, the results of the forensic chemical analysis can sometimes be negative. It is known that during the first 2-3 days after the onset the death of the enzymatic activity of alcohol dehydrogenase, which during life is produced by the liver and breaks down ethyl alcohol.Thus, the so-called posthumous enzymatic destruction of alcohol in the liver. The development of a certain microbial flora in the rotting corpse also leads to the posthumous destruction of alcohol. However, the relationship between the destruction of alcohol in the corpse and the specifics of the microbial flora has not yet been established. The intensity of the destruction of alcohol in the corpses depends on a number of conditions, primarily on the ambient temperature and on the degree of putrefactive changes. According to Wagner (1951) in the first two days, the alcohol content in the blood of a corpse decreases by 5-6%. After 3-4 days, a decrease in alcohol concentration reaches 20-25%. L. M. Spirov (1958) found that in the tissue of the brain containing at the time of taking alcohol in an amount up to 3-4%, on the 6th day of decay at a temperature of 10-12 °, the alcohol concentration increases by 0,1, 0,3-10% vol. From the 1th day, the alcohol content decreased by 2-30%, and after 3 days the alcohol was determined only in the form of traces. L. M. Spirov pointed out that he was able to note the longer shelf life of alcohol in rotting cadaveric blood than in brain tissue; blood decay occurred at a higher ambient temperature. Nevertheless, when the alcohol concentration in the blood was within 4-15%, after 10 days of decay at a temperature of 12 - 3255 ° C, alcohol was no longer detected "-http: //www.refsru.com/referat-6-XNUMX.html


                        And regarding the lethal dose of alcohol for the boy - “It is already known that death occurs when alcohol in the blood reaches 4 ppm .. this is in theory. Exceptions happen in everything. There is a case of impossible, just hellish intoxication. In 2005, a 67-year-old resident of Bulgaria was hit by a car, the hospital determined the alcohol level of 9,14 ppm! A person, in theory, should have been at least twice dead, instead he talked coherently and almost =) thought logically !! " - http://www.alkometry.ru/page/alkogol-v-krovi.html
              2. CorvusCoraks
                CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 17: 49
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Is it good to sit here through the lip of a smart self-build, when it wasn’t your child who moved and after that they dragged along the ground? It would be interesting to listen to you, if, God forbid, it would be your son.

                Better yet, it’s hard to understand who to build one of oneself, splashing out only emotions in one’s comments, without any logic, reasoning or proof. You have already decided and painted everything for yourself, that's why everyone who builds versions not on emotions, but on reasoning for you
                Quote: NEXUS
                Well here they sit through the lip of a smart self build
                .
  17. garnik
    garnik 6 July 2017 08: 50
    0
    Even if, hypothetically, the boy was drunk, this can not be an excuse for Madame.
    Do not forget that this happened in the courtyard of the house, where the speed is a priori 5 km / h.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 6 July 2017 09: 15
      0
      The maximum speed in residential areas and in courtyards is 20 km / h. (Clause 10.2 of the SDA). where is it written about 5 km.h?
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 6 July 2017 11: 18
        0
        Children play right there, cars go right there! Cool yards, great playgrounds! And in such circumstances, a normal driver will tiptoe to sneak half a kilometer per hour, not just 5, but 20 - for an empty yard, at night! And where is the blood inside the car from? And the case where a grandmother was hit by a policeman? And he left - normal. There, probably, the grandmother also went from 3 ppm, and they will find another reason - the grandmother survived from her mind, instead of sitting at home, hanging around on the road in bad weather, it prevents normal people from driving! Moreover, even the sidewalk is not the slightest. Brazenly walking along the road! I have neighbors - some kind of damned house. The old mistress knocked her sister and niece to death to death. And that sister was 89 years old. Now other people in the house live. The daughter of the mistress (63 years old) was shot down, lay in a coma for 3 months. Buried. They say a policeman shot down. And nothing. And the deceased herself also worked for many years in the police. Where is that justice? Who is strong is right! However, the measure is different for everyone.
        1. CorvusCoraks
          CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 16: 27
          0
          "And under such conditions, a normal driver will tiptoe to sneak half a kilometer per hour, not like 5, but 20 - for an empty yard, at night."
          Write nonsense, in our daytime only speed bumps are forced to reduce to 5 km, so no one drives in yards, at least 15-20.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 6 July 2017 20: 35
            0
            Well, yes - next to them the children on the greats are spinning, jumping with balls, can any kid run suddenly - and go 20 km? Abnormal only. 20 you can only go through the EMPTY YARD. not by law, by logic !!!
            1. CorvusCoraks
              CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 20: 48
              0
              Quote: housewife
              Well, yes - next to them the children on the greats are spinning, jumping with balls, can any kid run suddenly - and go 20 km? Abnormal only. 20 you can only go through the EMPTY YARD. not by law, by logic !!!

              Well then, in our house, the percent is 90 abnormal, but no one goes for 5 km. 15-20.
      2. free
        free 6 July 2017 12: 53
        0
        Quote: Kostya Andrei
        The maximum speed in residential areas and in courtyards is 20 km / h. (Clause 10.2 of the SDA). where is it written about 5 km.h?


        are you bad? Is the car a source of increased danger do you know?
        1. CorvusCoraks
          CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 16: 28
          0
          So what? 20 permitted by law.
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            1. CorvusCoraks
              CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 16: 58
              0
              Logic 0, this is about you.
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    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 July 2017 15: 44
      +2
      Quote: garnik
      Even if hypothetically the boy was drunk, this can not be an excuse for Madame.

      Did you understand that you scratched yourself? fool The boy is 6 years old! And the examination "discovered" in his blood more than 2,5 washed out! A 6-year-old child, according to your neck collar, drank vodka until your parents saw it, or with them at the same table? And then, this child, in a coma went on a bicycle under the car to rush? fool
      1. garnik
        garnik 6 July 2017 16: 13
        0
        But the word (hypothetically) you did not notice. fool
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 July 2017 16: 18
          +2
          Quote: garnik
          But the word (hypothetically) you did not notice. fool

          And you have applied this word to a 6 year old child. fool Do you have children? If there is, then HYPOTHETICALLY imagine that your child 6 years old is whipping vodka as if into himself, cleaner than port movers. Presented PURE HYPOTHETICALLY? M fool
          1. garnik
            garnik 6 July 2017 16: 45
            0
            All claims to the court are medical experts. Unfortunately I saw a pre-school kid in a state of intoxication, now in a children's receiver. Not by age I was independent.
          2. CorvusCoraks
            CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 17: 20
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            And you have applied this word to a 6 year old child. Do you have children? If there is, then HYPOTHETICALLY imagine that your child 6 years old is whipping vodka as if into himself, cleaner than port movers. Presented PURE HYPOTHETICALLY? M

            Do you consider that there are dysfunctional families with drinking parents, relatives, where children can be accustomed to drinking very early (almost from the first year of life, instead of milk)? So the situation is, in principle, possible, but in this family, of course, unlikely.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 July 2017 18: 06
              +2
              Quote: CorvusCoraks
              And you take into account that there are dysfunctional families with drinking parents, relatives, where children can be accustomed to drinking very early

              I repeat, for those who are in the tank, THE FAMILY OF THIS CHILD IS DRINKING! Where does an alcoholic child come from? fool
              1. CorvusCoraks
                CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 18: 12
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                I repeat, for those who are in the tank, THE FAMILY OF THIS CHILD IS DRINKING! Where does an alcoholic child come from?

                Do you personally know this family to claim this?
                Quote: NEXUS
                I repeat, for those who are in the tank
                You are clearly a writer. I talked about the possibility of "presenting purely hypothetically," a purely hypothetical situation where the 6th child will be excessively drunk possible.
                Less emotions, otherwise you don’t understand the meaning invested in words.
  18. pilot306
    pilot306 6 July 2017 09: 07
    +7
    Article, as I understand it, no one read? The fact that the boy was announced deadly drunk is old news already. An article about what is now claimed by the defense that the BOY DID NOT DUE TO AN ACCIDENT, BEFORE, OR AFTER IT! That is, Madame goes through a completely different article of the Criminal Code!
    1. CorvusCoraks
      CorvusCoraks 6 July 2017 18: 21
      0
      Well, what, in Mirzoev’s case, they proved that the deceased died not from a blow, but from a fall after a blow, why then a child could not die not from being hit by a machine, but from falling after being shot down?
  19. forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 6 July 2017 09: 21
    +3
    Judging by the case of Vasilyeva, trust in the authorities does not depend on unfair court decisions. And, it seems, the authorities understand this. And it suits her.
    Quote: Polite Moose

    I absolutely agree with you. The authorities should react not even for the reason that they are all so kind and fair, but because if such cases are ignored or hushed up, the number of citizens who do not trust such a government, and often hate it, will increase multiple . So one unfair decision of a local judge, which has become public, may cause a drop in the ratings of leading political entities. At least about your w .. let them think.
  20. native Russian
    native Russian 6 July 2017 09: 27
    0
    "write to be patient?"
    we with Serdyukov and with Vasilyeva and with the governor of Sakhalin gained patience. What happened? - everyone remembers or does not remember, because there’s no time for that yet ... to look, but a penny for bread needs to be earned.
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  22. free
    free 6 July 2017 12: 47
    0
    Scum absolutely nothing human! And the expert and the "woman" of the driver and others who otmazyvayte them in Magadan for 25 years. The fact of hitting was established and the boy’s death from hitting too, for this a decent period is already shining, there are still questions to the expert. ....... Get out, the people will take you for an Adam's apple.
  23. K-50
    K-50 6 July 2017 15: 26
    +3
    Alisova’s defense claims that a 6-year-old child died not as a result of a car collision, but “having received injuries incompatible with life either before or after contact with a car”. This statement alone gives away with real cynicism.

    With such investigations and “defense,” you can hold out to Lynch’s trial. Lynch, of course, does not bring anything good. But when, to the detriment of justice, they begin to carry all kinds of crap, so it’s possible to overfill the cup of patience and "fly a shred in the back streets."
    Put her (the culprit) under the article not intentional killing with a dangerous means. Solder it to the maximum, and bring up the “defenders” under the article “obstruction to the investigation” and collect any “sins”. Revolutions therefore happen mainly "because justice, which should be equal for everyone, is made selective, and the authorities lose touch with the reality and aspirations of the people. Patience is not endless. And every" injustice "falls into the cup of popular indignation.
  24. moskalik
    moskalik 6 July 2017 18: 18
    +1
    Something tells me that the court will still oblige the relatives of the deceased boy to pay for car repairs