Shock troops. Watching for innovations in the army

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We already had this theme, creating percussion parts. Here, probably, it is worth explaining that today the term “shock battalion”, for example, must be interpreted not from the word “kick”, but from the word “drummer”.



Those percussion units that first appeared in the Russian army at the beginning of the 20 century are somewhat different. Many have already expressed their "fe" about this, but it’s just that people have not studied the subject of discussion very well.

Today we are talking about drummers military competition.

The fact that the competition is being held very actively, they saw with their own eyes and were convinced that this is indeed a competition. Military

Honestly, not as colorful and revealing as Army Games. Not a game, but an ordinary routine. Received a task, completed, reported.













In order for the unit to receive the title of shock, tankers, for example, must go through more than 7 stages, including a “pit stop” for tank T-72B3 - checking the performance of the systems and transferring equipment from the traveling position to combat, performing test exercises firing with a regular 125-mm round and 30 mm shells (for armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles), as well as driving T-72 B3 and BTR-82A tanks with overcoming a 3 kilometer obstacle course.



In addition, the disguise of time, nomination to the line and so on.







Medical training also has a place to be.





20-I army, based in ZVO, has already held such competitions, coinciding with their holding for the anniversary of the formation.

“In the formations and units of the Western Military District today, units with the status“ Impulse ”have appeared. They are already more than 15, three of which are representatives of our 20 Guards combined army.

At its core, this is a reference unit not only for its staffing and security with modern weapons, but also having the best indicators of personnel training. Today, we are choosing another unit that claims this title, ”said Alexander Peryazev, commander of the 20 Combined Arms Army.



What happens, back to the future? We had shock workers of socialist labor, now, it turns out, shock workers of military service?

And why, actually, no?

If the crew of the tank hit three targets with three shells - is it not worthy of imitation? And if in a company the average number of hits does not fall below 2,5?

Again, if the crew of the BTR-82A spends on hitting targets not 30 shells, and 15?

If the arrows of the infantrymen from time to time show excellent results in combat training?

There may be objections. There was a sign “excellent shooter”, “excellent driver” and so on. There was such a measure of encouragement as the pennant of the Minister of Defense of the country.

Pennant is good. And a badge badge too. But the pennant - the only difference. For part or military high school or academy. The sign is personal. And now we will simply offer to consider our understanding of this issue, which is different, say, from the opinion of Mr. Ischenko from the Free Press, who criticized this idea.

Pennant Minister of Defense handed to whom? Correct, parts and connections. That is very large structures.

Today, a company of BTG can become a shock. What is behind this?

And there is the following. More opportunities to express themselves personally, if the fighter has such a desire. An excellent pupil can be one for a platoon or a company, just not lucky. There is - and there is, the sign is handed, well done and all that. What's next? Further - nothing special. Service.

Several different perspectives open up before the fighter of the strike unit, which Major General Peryazev, commander of the 20 Army, told the guard in an interview.

Ordinary fighters of the shock division will have advantages over ordinary mouth fighters for appointments to sergeant positions. The sergeants will be more actively promoted to ensigns.

Naturally, financial incentives, that is, cash surcharges, will also take place.

In addition, Peryazev noted that the timing of the next vacation for contract soldiers will also be made in favor of the drummers. It is unlikely that the private or sergeant of the shock company will go on a regular vacation in December or February.

A fighter-excellent in a company is good. Excellent / shock company in the battalion - even better.

If behind the title of a shock company there is an increase in material well-being, then it makes sense not only to win this title, but also to keep it. That, accordingly, cannot be an individual merit. This is a collective work.

It is worth giving an example of our athletes. Remember how the Russian national hockey team, made up of "stars" of the NHL, "merged" all in a row? And just like at the last championship, the same team, made up by no means from the “stars”, won medals that overseas masters could not always get.

Seem to be. If a company is a well-established tool for performing a task of any complexity, it deservedly bears the title of a shock, then there is one more thing.

An excellent company is a good tool for teaching whom? That's right, young officers. A young, but promising lieutenant, having got into such a company, will be able not only to take for himself the maximum of what is possible (and with a good team much becomes possible), but also to further transfer the gained experience to other units.

The same applies to sergeants and warrant officers. A person who has achieved certain success should share experiences and educate others.

What do we win? We win the professionalism of the fighters. An important moment.

Comrade Guard Major General Peryazev is serious. He sincerely wants the 20 Army, a unit that will celebrate its 75 anniversary next year, to remain on an excellent account in the district. Today, the 20 Army is truly a guardian of our border with an inadequate neighbor. Hence, the next should only be better.

In itself, the idea of ​​holding such competitions for the commander’s cup, district cup, and so on is not new. But who said that from our past we should take only the worst?

The idea of ​​such competitions, designed specifically to find out the best of the best, not on the basis of specially developed rules, as in “Army Games”, which, as you know, are somewhat different from everyday work, but on the basis of everyday tasks, in our opinion, useful and promising. .

Time will tell, as far as we are right. But there is confidence that this useful initiative will take root.
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  1. +3
    30 June 2017 15: 21
    Army - operational association
    1. +24
      30 June 2017 17: 38
      Quote: To be or not to be
      Army - operational association

      Correctly noticed.
      In my opinion, this is yet another PR action of Sergei Kuzhugetovich. And we will see thousands more justifications for the idea of ​​a better minister.
      It worries about the mass of publications that appeared in the media about how great we have become in military affairs, and how the NATO and American generals are panicked when they look at us. Something like pre-war "throw caps" turns out.
      1. +4
        30 June 2017 21: 59
        Alexander Suvorov: "the powder is not gunpowder, the letter is not a gun, the scythe is not a cleaver, and I am not German, but a natural Rusak."
      2. +3
        1 July 2017 11: 38
        Quote: Army 2
        In my opinion, this is yet another PR action of Sergei Kuzhugetovich.

        I agree that after Shoigu there will be a new minister, there will be new initiatives and probably a new form, they will forget about the current ones like a dream, like morning fog. We have already passed this repeatedly. As for the drummers - this is nothing new - back in 1917, in the context of the collapse that began in the Russian Army, shock units appeared, the initiator of their creation was General Kornilov ... The drummers wore sleeve chevrons with a skull and crossbones ...
        1. 0
          1 July 2017 22: 09
          Quote: ranger
          The drummers wore sleeve chevrons with a skull and crossbones ...

          + still undergoing additional training and had a slightly different armament in comparison with conventional infantry. Most of these shock units were killed after they had been uselessly used shortly before the revolution.
          And when the full bacchanalia went, the “shock” were called highly motivated units and formations. By the way, the fighters of ordinary units fond of “levorition” hated drummers: in the sources there are cases of firing in the back of attackers who went on the attack, attacks of “their own” in order to prevent the Germans from resisting and so on.
          1. +1
            2 July 2017 14: 28
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            And when the full bacchanalia went, the “shock” were called highly motivated units and formations. By the way, the fighters of ordinary units fond of “levorition” hated drummers: in the sources there are cases of firing in the back of attackers who went on the attack, attacks of “their own” in order to prevent the Germans from resisting and so on.

            I foresee squeals "you will be completely upset, the Bolsheviks did not ruin the army" ...
  2. +4
    30 June 2017 15: 40
    Yeah .. And enter the honorary titles ... "Drummer-tanker", "Drummer-sapper" and so on .... Or better yet, "Drummer of the Military District" ...
    There were "Communist Labor Brigades", where more than 50% there were labor percussionists .... And in the army, then companies of percussion workers of military labor will appear ....
    1. +6
      30 June 2017 16: 00
      The guard must stay. Definitely. A type with shock parts? Today, some officers and soldiers. Tomorrow is the other. Everything turns out not in the “games”, but in a real battle. And, complete stupidity. Compare the same RTV air defense and, for example, airborne infantry fire fighting aircraft. Different tasks, different goals, but, ultimately, they must fulfill a common task. There will not be one, there will not be others.
      1. +2
        30 June 2017 16: 25
        The guardsmen will remain (I do not tire of repeating this for the third subject in a row). This is another of our great and glorious army traditions. As for the drummers - see my comment below.
        1. 0
          2 July 2017 18: 57
          Quote: Fei_Wong
          Guards and will remain

          Guard is a spiritual support! They run without her, with her stand to the end!
      2. +12
        30 June 2017 17: 03
        Why reinvent the wheel?
        Grade - Special 3-2-1 class master. Raise the payment for grace. The severity of the assignment .a not the pursuit of %%%%%%
        Excellent student of the Russian Army. For conscripts. the same requirements.
        1. +10
          30 June 2017 17: 16
          The wheel here does not smell.
          See my comment below.
          The fundamental difference is precisely in the approach. This is NOT an individual, but a COLLECTIVE title. It does not go to a specific “specialist” if, say, he was transferred from the shock to another. It belongs to the unit. A kind of "quality mark", the brand is a test and guarantee that the unit is able to work professionally and harmoniously as a single organism. Expressing in computer language that this "memory bar" will not fail, and will be without bad sectors, because of which glitches occur every now and then.
          1. +3
            30 June 2017 17: 36
            The brand is verified by BATTLE!
          2. +5
            30 June 2017 17: 38
            This is not even a wheel, but according to a modern flood.
            How many units can you carry the assigned title of Drummer? 30 percent of the personnel changed and how much does this unit need to conduct combat coordination? I assure you that even a month is not enough.
            And collectivism is one of the main components of combat readiness.
          3. +6
            30 June 2017 21: 50
            There is the concept of combat coordination of units. and no collectivism. collectivism in the smoking room.
            The unit is not well-defeated ... death ... not fulfilling tasks
            “The combat coordination of units is achieved through tactical (tactical and special) exercises as part of a full-time unit in the field, in special training and other classes, as well as in the process of daily work at their workplaces, where personnel are trained and perform their duties to ensure military operations and the training process of the military unit. "
        2. +1
          30 June 2017 17: 38
          I don’t know how it is now, but 6 years ago at the parade classy signs were just handed out for the sake of appearance, and then collected again. probably from the outside it seems strange when the military are coming and practically all have signs of class.
          1. 0
            2 July 2017 19: 03
            Look at the parades. Often not just classrooms are bestowed, but also officer ranks! Dust in the eyes or - fraud, especially, as usual, from uncomplicated careerists!
      3. 0
        30 June 2017 19: 21
        IMHO, I can’t imagine why the units should NOW wear the guard ranks ???? About 80 years there was a war for which they gave deserved titles. And now ???? ON CREDIT??)))
        1. +9
          1 July 2017 01: 27
          Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
          IMHO, I can’t imagine why the units should NOW wear the guard ranks ???? About 80 years there was a war for which they gave deserved titles. And now ???? ON CREDIT??)))

          Your parents gave you life on credit, in the hope that you will become a real person. Judging by your statements, you don’t want to understand this. Just move your tongue like that ... I had to serve in several guards. Most of the soldiers proudly introduced themselves as Private Guards. But you don’t understand this ... you are clearly among those to whom everything is bad. Although- did you serve in the army? Something is not like.
          Do you have a military ID or certificate?
        2. +1
          2 July 2017 19: 12
          Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
          IMHO, I can’t imagine why the units should NOW wear the guard ranks ???? About 80 years there was a war for which they gave deserved titles. And now ???? ON CREDIT??)))

          Guard ranks - this is continuity! Pride! You essentially do not understand! You can’t fly, just crawl!
          Which war 80 years ago do you mean?
        3. +1
          3 July 2017 19: 21
          It is like a hereditary nobility. The military unit received the title of the Guards and, even those who came to the unit later, received the Guards badge, which imposes certain moral obligations
        4. +3
          4 July 2017 01: 54
          Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
          IMHO, I can’t imagine why the units should NOW wear the guard ranks ???? About 80 years there was a war for which they were given deserved titles.

          The military unit is the same as 80 years ago? BANNER the same? The Guardsmen are there.
      4. 0
        30 June 2017 22: 09
        Quote: bandabas
        for example, DShB airborne. Miscellaneous tasks

        And for example, anti-sabotage units, Strategic Rocket Forces.
        THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT SUCCESS SUCCESS.
        Rather, on the contrary, never, the word didn’t bother them at all.
        And just a hand-to-hand competition, the bill is not in favor of the Airborne Forces.
        1. 0
          2 July 2017 19: 13
          Quote: urman
          Quote: bandabas
          for example, DShB airborne. Miscellaneous tasks

          And for example, anti-sabotage units, Strategic Rocket Forces.
          THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT SUCCESS SUCCESS.
          Rather, on the contrary, never, the word didn’t bother them at all.
          And just a hand-to-hand competition, the bill is not in favor of the Airborne Forces.

          I haven’t heard about Vympel for a long time either!
          1. 0
            2 July 2017 20: 53
            Well, pennant and dshb are slightly different units.
            Well, if you believe in officialdom, then the coolest special forces have never managed to capture mobile rocket launchers, strategists.
            There, too, are not fools.
            And probably experts from the same cool special forces are attracted to the development of anti-sabotage measures.
            And by the way, with friends, the son 10 years ago finished the Ryazan landing.
            I was struck when watching a video of their graduation, when they imagine that a good third received an appointment in the Strategic Missile Forces, ANOTHER PART in the FSO.
            so only half of their platoon hit the airborne forces.
      5. +3
        1 July 2017 10: 34
        In my opinion, the main thing here is the competition. It invigorates both soldiers of military service and officers and super-soldiers. During my service in the Taman Division (1971-1974), such competitions between teams of motorized rifle regiments were held. I remember the team of our regiment on BMP, where I was captain the team, literally for a few seconds, walked around the regiment stationed on Khoroshevka. Helped was the excellent preparation of the mortars, who took the baton at the last stage with a lag, but very quickly took the firing position and prepared the gun to open fire. It must be said that at all stages of the relay the real stubborn struggle, then one or the other team stepped forward and such competitions contributed to increased combat skill and coherence. In the motorized rifle brigade in the Cuban republic weekly, a challenge pennant was awarded to the best department in the week to build the unit, and this unit participated in the ceremonial raising of the flags of Cuba and the USSR under national anthems of countries. Therefore, the point here is not It’s about the division and the winning parts, but that the competition permeates all the elements of combat training and would be carried out not for the sake of show, but in practice.
  3. +3
    30 June 2017 16: 05
    Thanks for the article and opinion. However, I still think that the same practice of certification for the qualification of a specialist of the 1st, 2nd grade and even more so the Master, was quite consistent and can now correspond to the assessment of the professionalism of a particular soldier, without being carried away by populist vague wordings.
    1. +5
      30 June 2017 16: 29
      However, I still think that the same practice of certification for assigning the qualifications of a specialist of the 1st, 2nd grade and even more so the Master, was fully consistent and may still correspond to the assessment of professionalism specific soldier,

      Don't you think that this is where the dog rummaged? Indeed, the title “shock” is not received by any separate “specialist” - only the entire unit or unit can receive it. What primarily shows cohesion and cohesion team, his general ability is teamwork, will, and high skill in fulfilling goals.
      The promotion of individualism is the prerogative of the armies of NATO and the USA (the system of “specialists” is just their invention). We always appreciated partnership.
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        1. +1
          30 June 2017 17: 29
          Are you one of those for whom the glass is always half empty and not half full?
      2. +1
        2 July 2017 08: 59
        Quote: Fei_Wong
        The promotion of individualism is the prerogative of the armies of NATO and the USA (the system of “specialists” is just their invention). We always appreciated partnership.

        If without cunning and propaganda, then this is called the promotion of leadership, younger commanders are needed on both sides of the ocean. Well, the suppression of individualism is probably when a fighter from 100 meters gets into the eye with a squirrel, but it is still loaded into the mortars, or when a born paratrooper or scout in a construction battalion or railway troops.
        The command (single command) approach in the US Army is manifested even in trifles - a uniform quality of clothing (only sergeant-instructors in training manuals are distinguished by clothing). The specialists are not just saturated with linear rifle units (companies, battalions), but units of technical combat and rear support (ground aviation, artillery instrumental reconnaissance / AIR, engineer-sapper, radio communications, anti-aircraft missile and radar air defense, technical and radio engineering. Wed - in military intelligence) of a slightly lower level - to the platoon, company / battery. And specialists, as a rule, on the contrary, combine a VUS (for example, shooter + mech-water + gunner-operator or operator of anti-tank ATGM), except for the AIRBORNE and RANGER badges, deserved at the corresponding courses. It is clear that the 18-year-old conscript does not manage to become a specialist in any way, even without a civilian profession. In this case, the minimum service life should be 3 years.
        О partnership, here, probably, they proceeded from the form of treatment adopted in Soviet society. In fact, for starters, you need to achieve a single principle of manning the army (contract soldiers / conscripts) to talk about partnership. Is this the basis of the basics, or will we again rush around and invent something special?
        Sounds absolutely ridiculous - shock company connection. Namely, the combat name motorized rifle requires another relationship where the shock function is implied by default.
      3. 0
        3 July 2017 08: 35
        Quote: Fei_Wong
        the system of "specialists" is just their invention)

        How do you imagine collectivism, for example, among wireless telegraphists?
        To receive a radiogram through ten headphones at one radioactive station by the whole department.
        Purely individual specialists, with completely individual training.
        Then if a bear has stepped on your ear no one will help.
        On powerful and moderately powerful r / st partner can help out, hedge in the reception,
        And life depends on the skill of the milkwomen, the groups that they provide with communication.
        Now of course, all satellite communications, etc., well, haven’t come up with anything more reliable than Morse code.
        1. 0
          3 July 2017 19: 26
          What did you run into the RTO? For the RTO and communications troops, the title of percussion has not yet been assigned. And in the infantry, tank troops, airborne forces only interaction, only coordinated actions, where your life and the success of the operation depend on collective actions
  4. +3
    30 June 2017 16: 19
    Those percussion units that first appeared in the Russian army at the beginning of the 20 century are somewhat different. Many have already expressed their "fe" about this, but it’s just that people have not studied the subject of discussion very well.

    Here. And I said, and this is far from a single “percussion” topic - they simply throw a thematically close bridge of tradition between the armies of the Russian Empire and the modern forces of the Russian Federation (at the same time not by overturning the glorious traditions of the Soviet Red Army).
    There are no minuses here, on the contrary, only increasing the motivation of the personnel and the return of historical identity (which, during the times of the USSR, we admit honestly, tried in every possible way to extinct at least until the 43rd year - why try yourself to guess before the 43rd ^ ^ ^).
  5. BAI
    +1
    30 June 2017 16: 23
    How was that in the song?
    "And he went, with a command swept up, across the native land of the Far East, a combat strike battalion."
  6. +16
    30 June 2017 16: 35
    Another window dressing. Instead of the usual combat training, which should be systematically conducted, they come up with new terms: beautiful, unusual, and not everything is immediately clear. For a long time there are parameters for assessing the combat readiness of a unit, and evaluations based on the results of exercises and control checks. Separate military personnel, and squads and platoons, companies, etc. can also be excellent. And here again the training of individual units, as usual to the detriment of others. Give commanders the opportunity to engage in normal combat work, rather than reporting and window dressing.
    The feeling after the article: when the general has nothing to do, he ..... scratches me.
    1. +1
      30 June 2017 16: 40
      What's bad about it? Maybe soldiers are throwing at the high-speed painting of the general's dacha (time has come!)
      Or are they infringing on those who did NOT pass the title of "shock" part? I don’t understand.
      And here again the training of individual units, as usual to the detriment of others.

      Well, that's about it. "What is your evidence?" (c) Or is it again the usual all gone, putinsil and how to arrange Russia? "Drummer" is only an honorary title. Now let's remember the drummers social. of labor in the USSR - what, due to the fact that someone was recognized as a drummer, from the other hard workers the last bowl of soup, a loaf of bread and a salary were taken away? No. As simple hard workers lived, they continued. The drummer was given preferences NOT at the expense of them.
      1. +3
        30 June 2017 17: 10
        Why invent something that has long been invented. And all this, in Russian, just show off. What is bad Excellent student training, Excellent platoon, etc.
        1. +1
          30 June 2017 17: 27
          Already voiced above on the topic, take a closer look.
          This is the bridge of tradition, thrown to the army of the Republic of Ingushetia. Restoring the continuity of the Russian armed forces. Additional motivation and a sense of ownership in the history of Russian “miracle heroes”, which (again, at least until the 43rd year) severely cut off the USSR at the state level. In my opinion, a very important point.
          1. 0
            6 July 2017 19: 46
            Well, let's return to the bridge “to your nobleness” - hereditary officer ranks - what else was there?
        2. +1
          1 July 2017 22: 13
          Quote: andr327
          Why invent something that has long been invented.

          This motivation is competition, competition + traditions. When in a unit, all units strive to achieve a certain status and receive appropriate bonuses, i.e. the educational process from a "fluid" turns into a competition, in which both the commander and the private are interested in victory. The main thing here is that the standards are worked out.
      2. 0
        30 June 2017 17: 46
        best the enemy of the good... hi
  7. +5
    30 June 2017 17: 28
    Quote: Fei_Wong
    Don't you think that this is where the dog rummaged? Indeed, the title “shock” is not received by any separate “specialist” - only the entire unit or unit can receive it. Which primarily shows the cohesion and cohesion of the team, its general ability to team work, will, and a high skill in fulfilling goals.

    You see, I have little experience in commanding combat units, since the first years of my officer career in them I was without personnel and was in units consisting entirely of officers, later on I was the commander of various kinds of groups with subordinates of both ordinary and officer personnel , with the predominance of the latter, however, all of our subgroups and those components of units that can be attributed to them due to similar purposes were approximately equal in their combat effectiveness, yes, of course, in each of the subgroups there were more skilled or even talented fighters and officers , and collect them into one subgroup, it would be an excellent team; it’s not a sin to show everyone who’s checking, only we performed combat missions and we did not need a high criterion for the effectiveness of one subgroup to the detriment of the others. For objective reasons - the death of one super subgroup did not mean failure to fulfill the task. But as much as possible, joint study, exchange of experience and training were cultivated and none of the fighters and commanders felt flawed, including in material terms. For us it was a team.
    Therefore, I do not really understand the meaning of such a gradation within units. Type the first company shock, and the rest of the company battalion not? Then we return to the grenadier companies in the battalion, but this means obviously specific staffing of the companies, is this good? And is the guard not enough for this institution, that is, the guard units to which increased demands are made?
    1. 0
      30 June 2017 17: 41
      Quote: Blue Fox
      Then we return to the grenadier companies in the battalion, but this means obviously specific manning of the companies

      In fact, there is no talk about any prefabricated companies - the units as a whole are evaluated.
      and, by the way, the grenadiers are a separate branch of the army that performs certain tasks and is armed with grenades of the time, which were not easy to throw.
    2. +3
      30 June 2017 18: 00
      But as much as possible, joint study, exchange of experience and training were cultivated and none of the fighters and commanders felt flawed, including in material terms. For us it was a team.

      And you propose to include a collective 400 order in this system: some go on vacation in the summer, and the rest in winter. So what? Understand what is a unit for this. Is it a platoon, a group, a division, a battery?
      Blue Fox I’m sorry, this is a comment for Fei_Wong, who is looking at this world with wide eyes from “worldly wisdom”. (enthusiastic staff politician)
      1. +1
        30 June 2017 18: 39
        Nothing understood.
        Do not quote me, but your comment of ANOTHER quote - suddenly intended for me?
        Well, definitely the army method. Or operation "s". So no one would guess.
  8. +2
    30 June 2017 18: 43
    It is unlikely that an ordinary or sergeant of the shock company will go on another vacation in December or February.

    Sidorov, why do you want to go on vacation in December?
    Because, comrade general, I don’t like sweaty women and warm vodka.
  9. +2
    30 June 2017 19: 05
    Hike, there on one of the pictures they treat nosebleeds by applying a tourniquet on the neck! wassat lol
  10. +3
    30 June 2017 19: 13
    The author decided to reverse the essence of the meaning of "shock". If approached from such positions as the author suggests, the army cannot be a shock in principle. This is a huge union of smaller parts, which themselves are composed of even smaller ones. And everyone cannot be drummers. Staff turnover, change of command, the arrival of mediocre and inexperienced officers and "non-commissioned officers" ... Failure of equipment must also be added there.
    From a military point of view, a strike army or, at worst, a division can be if it is combat-ready and capable of delivering strikes, that is, to conduct offensive operations. After all, it is clear that not every military unit, let alone a unit, can conduct a maneuverable modern war. The Georgians on 08.08.08 were sure that their advancing units were shock. But it turned out to be unstressed. Because they met an army that has vast combat experience. and, in spite of the obsolete armament, quite capable of stopping the aggressor, and then proceeding to strike action itself. Therefore, the shock units can be, if fully equipped and have the military, capable of performing tasks in any battle and offensive and defensive. And the rest is the verbiage of the author. In exercises, you can shoot at the top five with a plus, and in a real battle, drop your weapon from fear and run with a scream. "Guard, kill!" We have all gone through this. For a long time I kept a bunch of beautifully illustrated military magazines of 1938-39. In them we destroyed the enemy, both wholesale and retail. And then 1941 came. Now I just listened to our leading military expert on the situation in Syria. There is nothing for us to cover this country from the air in the event of a US strike. In practice, half of all our aviation and air defense should be sent there. And for this we have so many neither auxiliary vessels nor heavy aircraft. So you need to stretch the legs on clothes. We have practically no serious armed forces, especially air support, and if we are going to train pilots and build new planes at this pace, as it is now, we will not be 20 years old. And without modern aviation, the modern army cannot fight. This is a common truth. How many drummers do not compose.
  11. 0
    30 June 2017 20: 06
    The army needs not just competent officers, the army needs leaders. No qualification assessment can measure the ability to organize, teach and unite a team. This, I believe, is the main advantage of such a system. In addition, the tasks of stimulating and testing combat effectiveness are being solved.
    There were many comments like: "everything was invented before us, why reinvent the wheel." In fact, we are just beginning to create a mechanism for assessing and increasing the combat effectiveness of troops in peacetime. Good luck to those who solve this difficult task.
    1. 0
      30 June 2017 21: 19
      Metelik

      What tree did you fall from?

      What are the leaders in the army? This is not organized crime.
      The army charter and unity of command.
      1. +2
        30 June 2017 23: 19
        Quote: gladcu2
        The army charter and unity of command.

        Only in peacetime. In extreme situations, there are always those who will take the initiative and responsibility, and those who will passively wait for directions. This is the task to find such people and put them in the right places.
        1. 0
          1 July 2017 00: 14
          Exactly. Plus drinks
        2. 0
          1 July 2017 03: 19
          Metelik

          In any case, there are specialists and it is important for leaders in a difficult situation to shut their throats. To not climb with their advice.

          Once again, in the army, one-man management and upstarts are pressed first, so that in an extreme situation they do not muddy the water.
          1. +2
            1 July 2017 04: 13
            I was not talking about advice. If the commander is wounded, killed, demoralized, if communication is lost - someone must take command, or the entire detachment will die.
            Western firms practice war games for their employees. Getting into critical situations, a person reveals his character. In the West, there is a constant search for promising personnel, but you propose to turn the army into a stagnant swamp.
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  12. +5
    30 June 2017 20: 51
    Something I do not catch up: in the Soviet Army there were excellent units and military units. The ranks of the excellent were received by formations in which there was a certain percentage of excellent military personnel, a certain share of lower-level formations included in the excellent formations. What is happening now is really PR, a game for the public, which, after the timelessness of the 1990s and the period of Serdyukovism, enthusiastically accepts everything that reminds us of the times of the USSR. In fact, these “innovations” are a well-forgotten old, which is well known to senior and senior officers who have passed the school of the SA and Navy. The focus, in my opinion, is that everyone is inspired - it was the current Minister of Defense who invented all this and put it into the training of troops, while the hardened and spineless generals did not know this. In fact, the current high military commanders cowardly several years ago allowed the "stool" (and even before him, even under the EBN) to destroy the existing system of training for the SA and Navy.
    1. +1
      1 July 2017 22: 21
      Quote: Strategia
      formations in which there was a certain percentage of excellent military personnel

      You yourself answered the question: in the platoon m. 3 excellent students, but in general, the platoon does not cope with the standards, and the “strike” platoon may not have excellent students, but fulfill the standard on time, because the rating is not for the best, but for the last.
      1. +1
        2 July 2017 14: 58
        If the platoon fails, the company and company will work with it so much that it begins to cope. If the platoon cannot cope, it means that the entire vertical of military control to the battalion commander, inclusive, cannot cope. Therefore, in my memory there were no non-recovering platoons. As my ESO teacher at VA BTV, Lt. Col. M. Shakhmin used to say: "If a malfunction occurs, the fuse must be changed. If the malfunction persists, replace the unit. If this still does not help, change the commander."
  13. +1
    30 June 2017 21: 16
    As it’s not capitalistic.

    Maybe not like that? But is it too early? Maybe a clap on the shoulder will be enough? Well done may exclaim: "well done !!!".

    Some doubts ....
  14. +1
    30 June 2017 21: 52
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Blue Fox
    Then we return to the grenadier companies in the battalion, but this means obviously specific manning of the companies

    Actually, there’s no talk about any prefabricated companies - the units as a whole are evaluated

    Well, how not, if this is discussed in the article? And since the unit as a whole, then is it really possible to do without calling it a shock? :) Received the highest marks according to the results of the test, please get a bonus, so you did your job well, and the guards simply must consistently perform combat training tasks at the highest discharge. Officers and individual specialists from the usual stably different units in such situations will be able to get the right to go to the guard units. Then the guard will not be paper and it will not hurt others :)
  15. 0
    1 July 2017 00: 12
    The author is well done. Well written drinks
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  17. +1
    1 July 2017 02: 37
    Today, a company of BTG can become a shock. What is behind this?
    And it is behind this that BTG will not be able to fulfill the tasks assigned to it, since all dogs will be hung on this shock company in principle, since you are the best with us, you have the honorable duty of being the first to go under the bullets. How many times have been said and written !! What is better to have an average in terms of indicator but a well-coordinated subdivision.
  18. kig
    +1
    1 July 2017 02: 39
    Reminds the program of European tank competitions "Strong Europe Tank Challenge"
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  20. +1
    1 July 2017 07: 40
    drums, they are assault, they will make holes where necessary - all the others will go for them ... what difference does it make - a company in a battalion or a battalion in a regiment or any group, there will be better ones both in training and in recklessness they will know what they are going to. the principle of picking is a volunteer, otherwise a kantraknik, naturally depending on tasks for combat mission, a company - but a platoon stronghold or equal in strength and so on ... drums are the most persistent units in all types of combat, draw your own conclusions a, article- mothers to reassure that, the granules are fighting for the transient pennant because mixed training in peacetime - conscript, cantraknik, and for combat use - only cantraknik.
    1. +2
      1 July 2017 09: 01
      You apparently did not carefully read the article! It doesn’t even smell like assault units!
  21. +1
    1 July 2017 08: 41
    If we use Soviet terms, then there was such a thing - a production leader. He also had enough benefits - preferential trips to resorts, advancement in turn for housing, bonuses and so on. This is more relevant to the topic than the same drummer. And there is no confusion with the term.
    And now it would be more correct to call all these “shock companies” “drum” companies, from the word “drummer”. And if the idea, in general, is true, then it’s a little bit over with terms. Maybe then they will fix it ?!
  22. 0
    1 July 2017 10: 45
    all the same in peacetime, the shock parts are somehow not the same, huh?
  23. 0
    1 July 2017 10: 58
    what is all this for? the author says that everything is competitive in nature, a good opinion. but the troops are not competing, but combat training and all exercises are elements of combat or unit tactics, draw your own conclusions. I understand this by not referring to the article itself, but to the topic. more, we now have no cropped parts a, all parts of the constant bg and combat co-ordination is weekly, monthly and year-round, and the next evolution is probably asking itself. the step is to create the most prepared parts, and for what ... I’m not going to dispute with anyone ... think for yourself ... maybe some kind of experiment?
  24. +2
    1 July 2017 13: 09
    The subtle connection between the combat training and the "drummers of the" military labor "was summed up, and the classiness (1-2-3) and skill were no longer honored among the military personnel. Are the" reformers "not from another MO (min. Education)?
    1. 0
      6 July 2017 19: 52
      Yes, you guessed it, the leader arrived in the MO from another MO-regional and before that, he converted the MSC :)
  25. +2
    2 July 2017 16: 04
    What are you all talking to? Said the minister-luminium and all, no duralumin! And look at the form! Everything is like mummers roosters!
  26. 0
    20 February 2018 14: 22
    Quote: asushnik 78
    What are you all talking to? Said the minister-luminium and all, no duralumin!

    Is it true that they started talking? sad Another general will come to replace the commander - some other "drummers" will appear. At least these military studies are busy. For three years I "guarded" the military unit - I have seen enough of the "defenders of the fatherland" soldier - by the very top. They are automatic, as in late Soviet times, and only take the oath. The same six rounds are fired and that's it. Next - a shovel, scythe, mop, brush, etc.

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