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Predator from Borisov: test of the newest Belarusian armored car designed by a girl

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She can climb the almost sheer wall, she is not afraid of off-road, on which KamAZ will sit, she will overcome the puddle where the tank will sink. 42.TUT.BY exclusively tested the newest Belarusian reconnaissance and patrol vehicle “Caiman”, which will be shown for the first time at the July 3 parade.




To do this, we went to Borisov to the landfill of JSC "140 repair plant." Before us, driving this armored vehicle was visited only by army specialists and Hollywood action star Dolph Lundgren. We found out why the Caiman is not sinking and what happens if you click on the button on the dashboard with the image of a turtle.

The girl who builds armored vehicles

Alexander Churyakov, the director of the enterprise, himself came to accompany the journalists on a small tour of the plant. According to him, the head of state commissioned them to create a light armored vehicle.


Director of OJSC "140 Repair Plant"

- It took us three years to develop an armored car from scratch. The prototype was collected last year. At that time, many media outlets wrote that the Cayman was built on the basis of the BRDM-2, but this is not so. We only in the running layout used a couple of elements of the armored hull of this Soviet armored vehicle. In the serial armored car hulls are unique, as are the cars themselves. In its class, the Caiman is cheaper than most competitors with high combat effectiveness. However, more about the car will tell you its designer.


The first model of the armored vehicle "Caiman"

Having finished this phrase, the director pointed to a fragile girl who stood a little away from one of the assembled “Caymans”. The armored car is obliged to it - the chief designer of the enterprise Olga Petrova - for its unusual appearance, high traffic and protection.



- When developing the Caiman, we tried to make it as reliable and maintainable as possible. - An armored vehicle with non-serious combat damage can be repaired right in the field by the crew, ”says Olga. - The machine is able to protect the crew from bullets and shrapnel. In the frontal part, the protection of the Caiman is higher than that of the BTR-80. Armor, corresponding to the fifth class, confidently holds the armor-piercing incendiary bullets fired from the SVD sniper rifle. Mine protection at the Caiman is also provided for - the bottom is partially V-shaped, the floor at the landing sites and the crew is reinforced with additional armor.



Olga graduated from BNTU with a degree in Instrument Engineering and Household Appliances, and at 140, the plant came on the advice of a friend: “... if you want a tremendous experience in the field of design, come to the enterprise”. In August of this year it will be exactly nine years, as the girl works at the enterprise.

By the way, “Cayman” is not the only child of Olga, the girl developed a project for the modernization of the BTR-70MB1. The new vehicle in combat and operational capabilities is not inferior to the BTR-80. Novelty appreciated in the Belarusian army and adopted.

Belarusian at 67 percent

When developing the Caiman, one of the most important requirements was a high degree of localization. According to Alexander Churyakova, many structural elements have been re-designed. For example, transfer case and water propulsion. The latter allows the Cayman to swim at speeds up to 8 km / h. But the most important thing is that the armored car, like other machines, does not take time to prepare to overcome the water barrier. The car can drive into the lake on the move, and the rowing screws are turned on by a toggle switch from the passenger compartment while driving.



If water got into the case, a special sensor on the panel will inform the driver about this. From the cabin, the pump is turned on, which pumps out the remaining liquid.

“In this machine, 67% of Belarusian components, we plan to increase this figure in the future,” says Alexander Churyakov. “For example, an engine assembled with a reinforced box developed at the Smolensk Aggregate Plant, is supplied by the Minsk Motor Plant. We still buy bulletproof tires in Russia, but now we are negotiating with Belshina about the development of such tires. The mover that allows the Caiman to swim is our own development. It was created from scratch, specifically for this armored car.

After tanks

In order to find out what the Cayman is capable of, we go to the nearest training ground, where we are trained by tank crews and infantry fighting vehicles. The terrain cut by caterpillars, with huge mud-flooded areas filled with water, at first glance seems insurmountable for a wheeled vehicle.



But, as the creators claim, for “Caiman” this is the usual habitat. Check? First, an experienced test driver demonstrates what this machine is capable of. Before our eyes, an armored car easily drives into a hill covered with clay and turf almost at an 45-degree angle.



Then, at the request of photographers, climbs up on a high hill in order to effectively crash into a huge puddle. Seven tons of steel raise a wave of spray and dirt, and the armored car goes into this mess through the hull. The driver is asked to wait a couple of minutes to make a good shot.

All this time, "Caiman" stands in the middle of a small mud lake and, like a real predator, in whose honor he received his name, heats himself in the sun. The armored car gets out of water captivity so easily, as if it moves along asphalt.
Swallows pits for breakfast

It’s time to get behind the wheel of the Caiman yourself. The dashboard is not much different from a conventional car. At the bottom there are three pedals: gas, brake, clutch, so the time for getting used is minimal. The instructor immediately warns that the pedals are set up for an armored troop-carrier — soldiers are trained on the Caiman, and so familiar to them.



Indeed, the pedals go pretty tight, but getting used to it is a minute thing. Under the hood of the Caiman, an 170-strong diesel engine is installed, which consumes 24-25 off-road liters per hundred. By the way, the reserve of the armored car reaches 1000 km, this is enough to drive almost twice from one end of Belarus to the other. By the way, the motor has high torque - 515 Nm.

The first gear is short, it is needed to get off the ground, then you need to turn on the second one and, after adding gas, go to the third one, on which the Cayman usually moves off-road.

Transfers are included quite unusual. The first is down and to the right, the second is down and in the middle, the third is up. The fourth and fifth did not have to use. They need more to move on the highway, where the Caiman is able to reach speeds in 116 km / h.



Meanwhile, the car gets under way. Unaccustomed to linger with the inclusion of the second gear, but the armored car does not stall, but quietly waits until I find the gear.

Rides over rough terrain "Cayman" very smoothly. Yam car just does not notice. Passengers do not notice them either - it seems that you are driving on a flat road.

This merit suspension armored vehicles. She is independent here, with two levers per wheel. Mounted strut and reinforced springs.

Handling "Caiman" deserves special mention. The steering wheel is spinning with one hand, and the car is very sensitive to any manipulation. Feels like a real foreign car.

Terrible outside, comfortable inside

In appearance, “Cayman” seems very large, protected and impregnable. Peering into its narrow mirror-loopholes, you worry that visibility will be worse than ever. Immediately I remember the ordinary joke about parking by sound. But this is only a first impression.



Front and rear "Caiman" cameras are installed, which give the driver a great view. Frontal armored glass has a double heating circuit: the internal one saves from misting, and the external one - from icing.

Janitors hidden under the armored visor. By the way, the mechanism of work of the side window brushes is almost eternal - it is set in motion by hand.



The display, which translates the image from the cameras, is quite large and informative. You can also display navigation information, data on the status of systems and components of the combat vehicle, and other information.

Well, "Easter eggs" for those who read the material almost to the end. On the dashboard of the Caiman there are two interesting buttons, one depicts a hare, the other a turtle. What are they for?



It turns out that everything is simple: a turtle is a low gear, a hare is an increased one. In my opinion, cool design find. It would seem a trifle, but adds great comfort inside and relieves tension, which is so much in military service. Looking at the buttons, you just want to smile and be sure to press one of them - at least just like that.


Smoke grenade launchers that fire aerosol grenades that hide the Caiman from the enemy in the optical and, in some cases, in the thermal range

Places inside the "Caiman" more than enough. The crew of the armored car - six people - will be located here with comfort. You can get inside through a side door or a pair of hatches above the driver and passenger seats. Another large hatch is located in the middle of the crew compartment. You can pop out of it and shoot from a Kalashnikov machine gun (PC), from an AGS grenade launcher or from a 12,7 machine gun of mm. In this case, the folded manhole cover is an armorrest for a fighter who is operating a machine gun or a grenade launcher. The shooter itself is on the lid of the transfer case.

On the "citizen" also fit

According to the results of the car made a good impression. A wide range of weapons, up to the installation of a remotely controlled module "Adunok", and high maneuverability make the Caiman a formidable enemy.



But it seems to me that the armored car has a place on the “citizen”. A spacious cabin can accommodate several people at once, the car keeps afloat perfectly, it has a huge power reserve, and you can move along the roads.


Special armored box for paratroopers property. Now bulky backpacks can not be stored inside the armored car

Four-wheel drive, centralized tire inflation and high torque at the diesel will help to cope with any off-road and not depend on the service.

In civilian performance, this is an indispensable thing for a fishing trip by a large company, and you can go fishing right from the board in the middle of some deaf lake, where the way is ordered to regular transport. After all, there are civilian versions of the BRDM, why not the Caiman?
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  1. tanit
    tanit 1 July 2017 06: 24
    +11
    "a puddle in which the tank drowns," "lean out and shoot," "wielding a machine gun" belay
    Was that something? belay
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 1 July 2017 07: 46
      +23
      Quote: tanit
      Was that something?

      It was essentially nothing construction not speaking material for the encouragement of the masses and the earnings of the writing fraternity.
      This project has already been discussed (without a smart girl, really laughing ), everything is clear there, except perhaps one thing: how is this miracle that surpasses armored personnel carriers, KamAZ trucks and cross-country vehicles will overcome ditches, trenches, streams of streams without BRDM drawers? recourse
      1. Lex.
        Lex. 1 July 2017 09: 55
        +4
        What he should go through trenches is written intelligence sabotage
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 6 January 2018 22: 48
        0
        If there is a torque distribution controlled as necessary, then diagonally.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2017 08: 20
      +10
      Quote: tanit
      Was that something?

      Either an article by a journalist who deflected from the army, or a journalist "in the subject," but writes for those who deflected from the army.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 1 July 2017 10: 08
      +15
      However, Belarusians cannot do without a “bunny”. bully It’s interesting, and what for this girl-designer is a “almost” sheer wall on which a four-wheeled SUV can climb? winked
      1. Cat
        Cat 1 July 2017 16: 02
        +12
        Come on! Belarusians can be understood, you need to somehow move your ideas into a series. An example - for a PR technology lover! Designer girl who got to the factory for acquaintance. Water engine with screws, instead of a full water jet. Will they stick out of the hatch to shoot? Frontal armor is better than that of the BTR-80, but with window openings like a full-fledged SUV!
        And most importantly, the trunk! Instead of a full ramp. And most importantly, "bunny"! It’s already dawned on me "as you imagine in a combat situation, the commander gives the command" ... press the bunny! "He smiled! Or," Turn on the turtle! "
        Although seriously, you need to pay attention to the following!
        Alexander Churyakov, the director of the enterprise, himself came to accompany the journalists on a small tour of the plant. According to him, the head of state commissioned them to create a light armored vehicle.

        Dear you, this does not resemble anything! Yes Yes! The junior tank commander Tsiganov also believed that Stalin himself had cut off the automatic hitch for the tanks, comrade Yakir explained the task ..... I’m on duty !!!
        1. AlexVas44
          AlexVas44 5 July 2017 09: 09
          0
          [quote = Kitty] ... Example - for a PR tech lover! Designer girl who got to the factory on acquaintance. [Quote]
          Pleasantly surprised by the designer girl, the nugget directly. In the years of my youth, a legend bike went that the BTR-152 was created by a female designer.
          Well, today the creation of armored vehicles is almost a hobby - tigers, lynxes, otters, etc. It’s not worth picking on them. Moreover, the author pays more attention to the use of the "caiman" as a fishing vessel for fishing somewhere far away.
      2. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 7 July 2017 23: 51
        0
        Remember the Batmobile, only a little worse ...
  2. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 1 July 2017 06: 52
    +15
    Great light armored car. I hope they get into our army, and not just for export. Thanks to the author for the article. hi
    1. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 1 July 2017 07: 00
      +3
      pasha hi yeah, well done, honestly, made a good car! good Know when you want good
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 1 July 2017 07: 02
        +5
        Hi, hello! hi With our father you will not get spoiled! wink
        1. Banishing liberoids
          Banishing liberoids 1 July 2017 07: 13
          +6
          Paul drinks Honestly, I liked your crocodile, lol Syria needs to test such a car — take us a couple of pieces, and conduct a test drive in the battles — real and not at the training ground, and, based on the results, identify all the flaws and “childhood diseases”!
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 July 2017 07: 29
            +2
            I completely agree with you - a combat run-in to the Cayman would definitely not hurt. But this is not up to you and me. wink
            1. Settlement Oparyshev
              Settlement Oparyshev 1 July 2017 07: 43
              +4
              A combat run-in in Syria is when a shahid mobile chases a caiman, and he gives the ass in fifth gear. Then the shahid is undermined and the caiman flies head over heels. The crew is certainly intact, only dumbfounded.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 July 2017 07: 54
                +2
                This is what you did so bad "Cayman" did, what is he prophesying? request
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 1 July 2017 13: 09
                  +6
                  Pasha! I do not want to upset, but if Shishiga gets stuck, then ....
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 1 July 2017 18: 33
                    +17
                    Glory be healthy hi What's the problem? The guard from the body jumps out and pulls Shishigu from anywhere. It was so with us. good drinks
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 6 July 2017 14: 44
                      0
                      Is this the secret of car patency?
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 6 July 2017 14: 47
                        +8
                        Is this the secret of car patency?

                        This is a military secret. wink
                2. Vovanya
                  Vovanya 3 July 2017 23: 05
                  +2
                  I have not read it, but I condemn it. And the reason is that the girl did not serve in the army, on landfills in mud-dust-snow-swamp-hill, etc. I didn’t dangle, I didn’t live in the car for weeks, I don’t know the intricacies of tactics and operation, because knowledge in the army is not acquired from the Internet, but, as a rule, reaches through one well-known place. The dirt shown in the film is almost asphalt - this is advertising. The case is generally a masterpiece - try to cover it with a net mask, and then remove it, especially in the rain, when it weighs a ton. The car is for patrolling, but the windows are only in front. Yes, and loopholes something is not visible. When moving, it is clear that it shakes, and this will no longer allow firing on the go. The dashboard still remains from the BRDM - the Stone Age, the engine seems to be the same. Under the USSR, civilian designers also made equipment, especially for engineering units, I recall with horror. And these went the same way. Score 3 with a minus.
              2. kugelblitz
                kugelblitz 1 July 2017 08: 26
                +1
                Which head over heels? If the explosion causes even the detonation of ammunition at Abrashka! wassat
                1. Settlement Oparyshev
                  Settlement Oparyshev 1 July 2017 08: 34
                  +3
                  The speed of the abrashka is lower than that of the caimanchik. The armor has time to run away from the suicide bomber and the explosion catches up with him at the end. So that there won't be any children. They will get pieces of iron on their faces that are all lying on the floor.
                  1. Lex.
                    Lex. 1 July 2017 09: 57
                    +4
                    They’ll receive pieces of iron in their faces, which are lying on the floor and that's it. So you can say about any tiger about your tiger, for example
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 1 July 2017 10: 12
            0
            In Syria, hot and sand, there buggy is needed. bully
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 1 July 2017 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      Great light armored car

      What will be your evidence :?
      National-patriotic or technical literacy?
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      not only for export

      That is unlikely...
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      they will fall into our army

      Is it possible. Everything is in their hands, only if there are pennies. yes
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 1 July 2017 10: 04
        +4
        Quote: Alekseev
        What will be your evidence :?
        National-patriotic or technical literacy?

        The soldiers of our MTR and intelligence are very pleased with the "Cayman". I can’t share my personal feelings, sorry.
        Quote: Alekseev
        That is unlikely...

        Time will tell .
        Quote: Alekseev
        Is it possible. Everything is in their hands, only if there are pennies.

        I do not think Father Butka gave the task of development only for export.
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 2 July 2017 09: 23
          +2
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          The soldiers of our MTR and intelligence are very pleased with the "Cayman". I can’t share my personal feelings, sorry.

          It’s they out of politeness, or maybe they haven’t tried anything sweeter than carrots.
          1. Pancir026
            Pancir026 2 July 2017 09: 31
            +3
            Quote: ARES623
            It’s they out of politeness, or maybe they haven’t tried anything sweeter than carrots.

            Have you traveled at least a meter in that CAYMAN? How could you rate the car if you just read the material?
            There are so many critics ... but in fact, many are profane with respect to light armored vehicles ..
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 2 July 2017 10: 03
              +2
              Quote: Pancir026
              Have you traveled at least a meter in that CAYMAN? How could you rate the car if you just read the material?

              This cayman is nothing but a redesigned BRDM-2 without weapons. In addition, the cayman is also without retractable wheels. Those. its cross is initially worse than that of the BRDM-2. The only gain is an increase in the internal reserved volume, but at the same time the armor is the same, bulletproof from 7,62 mm, which means 12,7 will be hit by 2000 m for departure, despite the fact that in all countries there is a fair amount of large-caliber sniper weapons. From the new only camcorders. If you need to carry a lot of people in the cabin, then you could use a full-size armored personnel carrier. On the off-road, you won’t especially run into the BRDM, on each bump if it doesn’t shake, then it will swing. Despite the fact that the BRDM has a spring suspension, structurally softer, the BTRovsky double-lever torsion bar on the cayman is stiffer, but, obviously, with a greater stroke. To revive in 2015 what ceased to be produced in 1989 is a very controversial issue. Of course, in Russia there are more than 5 types of BA for all tastes, RB decided to cook at least one for itself. If desired, over time it may happen that it will be unique.
              1. Pancir026
                Pancir026 2 July 2017 10: 55
                +2
                Quote: ARES623
                This cayman is nothing but a redesigned BRDM-2 without weapons. In addition, the cayman is also without retractable wheels. Those. its cross is initially worse than that of the BRDM-2.

                Exactly? Does WODZNIK mean better? TIGER? LYX?
                Quote: ARES623
                but at the same time, the armor is the same, bulletproof from 7,62 mm, which means 12,7 will hit 2000 m for departure, despite the fact that in all countries there is a fair amount of large-caliber sniper weapons.

                Where did you see that in the forehead, out of 12.7, the BTR-60,70,80 was hit. Yes, the same BRDM, if its reservation in the frontal projection provides protection from 14,5 caliber?
                Quote: ARES623
                If you need to carry a lot of people in the cabin, then you could use a full-size armored personnel carrier.

                You did not learn the purpose of CAYMAN? "Cayman" developers classify as a mobile armored vehicle (MBTS). It is assumed that the new combat vehicle will be used to patrol certain areas and escort convoys, as well as in various military and peacekeeping operations. In particular, the Cayman can be used as a combat vehicle for reconnaissance and sabotage operations. The new armored car must fulfill the tasks assigned to it in any situation, including in emergency situations.
                Why pull the owl on the globe, telling fables about the correspondence of CAYMAN and BTR?
                Quote: ARES623
                On the off-road, you won’t especially run into the BRDM, on each bump if it doesn’t shake, then it will swing. Despite the fact that the BRDM has a spring suspension, structurally softer, the BTRovsky double-lever torsion bar on the cayman is stiffer, but, obviously, with a greater stroke.

                After your reasoning that the BTR60 is used in the suspension, SPRINGS .. The question arises for yourself: did you use these BTR and BRDM machines for at least half a kilometer, or did you see them only on a stationary site?
                Quote: ARES623
                To revive in 2015 what ceased to be produced in 1989 is a very controversial issue.

                Resuscitate? Let me. But your statement is akin to the statement. Why reinvent the wheel. The question is, why not use the time-tested solutions for components, assemblies, suspension? Or do you think some kind of Hammer. Armored, is there a top design idea?
                Tiger. Rys, Vodnik-masterpieces? Their patency is higher? Armor is better?
                On this basis .Kaymana, from ATGMs to machine gun installations, you can optionally install, but first of all, in the technical specifications it is written what kind of car and why.
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 2 July 2017 16: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  After your reasoning that the BTR60 is used in the suspension, SPRINGS .. The question arises for yourself: did you use these BTR and BRDM machines for at least half a kilometer, or did you see them only on a stationary site?

                  I explained to you at 10-26 where the springs in the armored personnel carrier are from, you again asked questions about the springs at 10-55. Didn’t you read the article? It looks like you and the armored personnel carrier in the context did not see if it holds 14,5 mm. What did you finish? Political? 30 years in clay clay in the Czech Republic? In the kung? I taught BTR drivers for the 120B team for a year, if you know what it is. And then, for 5 years, the BMP was raised from shepherds, and practically lived at the tankodrome, every six months he prepared it for checks so that some staff did not drown in the mud and did not scratch the mug on the shield. Log, over 100 years sailed the sea, and the submarine from the balloon still does not distinguish. And if you like that throughout your 30-year career with righteous anger proceeded without delving into the essence of the issues, then I can only sympathize with your subordinates.
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  In particular, the Cayman can be used as a combat vehicle for reconnaissance and sabotage operations.

                  Gold words. Therefore, comparing a caiman with a tiger is not entirely correct. For the Tiger will work in its rear, and the caiman - on the contact line and on the territory occupied by the enemy. Accordingly, the cayman will be more exposed to the risk of enemy fire at medium and close ranges. Therefore, even in my time, reconnaissance missions, for example, the reconnaissance battalion of the Kantemirov’s division, were equipped with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers based on infantry fighting vehicles.
                  1. Pancir026
                    Pancir026 2 July 2017 17: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: ARES623
                    It looks like you and the armored personnel carrier in the context did not see if it holds 14,5 mm.

                    You seem to have a very vague idea of ​​the armored personnel carrier and in what projections than it makes its way.
                    Quote: ARES623
                    I taught BTR drivers for the 120B team for a year, if you know what it is. And then, for 5 years, the BMP was raised from shepherds, and practically lived at the tankodrome, every six months he prepared it for checks, so that some staff did not drown in mud and did not scratch the mug on the shield

                    I’m glad for you, but still you don’t know the technical characteristics of machines and their purpose. As for the landfills, it’s not for me to sing songs here. I didn’t belong to political talkers at the expense of posts and other things.
                    Quote: ARES623
                    sympathize with your subordinates.

                    Chatterboxes, trepachki and a loafer, yes. Could follow you say the same thing, screaming a bunch of all sorts of nonsense.
                    Quote: ARES623
                    Gold words. Therefore, comparing a caiman with a tiger is not entirely correct. For the Tiger will work in its rear, and the caiman - on the contact line and on the territory occupied by the enemy. Accordingly, the cayman will be more exposed to the risk of enemy fire at medium and close ranges. Therefore, even in my time, reconnaissance missions, for example, the reconnaissance battalion of the Kantemirov’s division, were equipped with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers based on infantry fighting vehicles.

                    How do you manage to contradict yourself, speaking out in one comment the bipolar conclusions ??
                    It doesn’t reach you in any way a long time obvious idea, it’s not always what kind of vehicle on caterpillars is preferable, sometimes BTR is too much or not practical to use.
                    1. ARES623
                      ARES623 2 July 2017 18: 35
                      +3
                      I'm glad that even with the springs everything was resolved wink However, if you find contradictions in the quote you cited, then you have clinical problems with formal logic. Your education is certainly not legal. About the performance characteristics and 12,7 mm. In no manual on the BTR-60PB, and on the BRDM or BMP, you will not find information that it breaks out of the KPVT or DShK. But in one of my southern business trips I saw a lot of APCs with neat holes from DShK bullets. Not always on both sides, but that is even worse. And because of this, the fashion went because of the river to ride on the landing, on armor. In figures, the frontal sheets of the armored personnel carrier are no more than 12 mm. This, by the way, is clearly visible on the armored covers of the inspection hatches. B-32 (armor-piercing incendiary bullet with a steel core) - the main cartridge. When firing a machine gun DShKM on steel armor of medium hardness RHA (NATO standard), the armor penetration of the B-32 bullet is 20 mm / 500 m / 0 hail. from the normal. About KPVT and say no. His patron 14,5x114 of worse quality than today beat 30 mm armor of tanks. BTR-60, he will take right through 95% of hits. And today, the front edge of the enemy, through which the caiman will penetrate, is packed with at least 20 mm automatic rifles on the armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. And there is a tendency to increase the caliber in this type of equipment up to 57mm machine guns. Therefore, armored personnel carriers, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles of a potential enemy are growing rapidly in mass. Even in my cadet youth we were given weapons of MPO on the M-113 with a 15 mm Browning on an open turret. Where is this armored personnel carrier now? In the museum. Today, NATO is armed with armored vehicles with armor resistant to 30-mm shells. Or do you think that the reconnaissance group on this crocodile will be able to quietly deliver to the object of sabotage? If there is a thermal imaging surveillance technique in the MPV that can see a car for 10-15 km? This car can only frighten vagrants on the streets of Minsk. What intelligence, what sabotage? They will be safer on foot ...
                      1. Pancir026
                        Pancir026 3 July 2017 08: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: ARES623
                        They will be safer on foot ...

                        In the mountains, but on foot. In the forest-steppe .. you don’t run into much. Better ask the opinion of the scouts — to have at least some kind of armor and means of transportation or not — the answer is obvious. All dictate the conditions for completing the task at that place and at the time that is necessary.
                        Armor and its durability.
                        Forehead top - 12 mm / 60-65 gr. = 24-28 mm
                        Forehead bottom - 10 mm / 45 gr. = 16-18 mm
                        Bead top - 8 mm / 35 g = 11-12 mm
                        Bead bottom -?
                        Tower -?
                        Feed - 6-8 mm

                        The angles and the reduction are naturally approximate ... :)

                        All this is an economy (if the thickness and angles correspond to reality, it should keep the following:

                        Forehead top - 12 mm (B7) - 32-350 m, 400 browning (APEI and all that) - 12 - 7 meters
                        Forehead down - 7,62 (B32) - from any distance, 12, 7 (B32) - 500 - 600 meters
                        Board top - 7,62 (B32) from 200 meters
                        In total, it all depends on the range of the hit, and taking into account experience, the simplest installation of tractors on the cilia of the tractor, at least type t170, allows you to calmly survive the direct hit of 14,5 in the forehead from a distance of 300 m, verified.
                        Quote: ARES623
                        And today, the front edge of the enemy, through which the caiman will penetrate, is packed with at least 20 mm automatic rifles on the armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. And there is a tendency to increase the caliber in this type of equipment up to 57mm machine guns

                        Yes, so what? This machine is not intended for the role of tanks, so why ruin it when breaking through the first line of defense ??
                        Quote: ARES623
                        Or do you think that the reconnaissance group on this crocodile will be able to quietly deliver to the object of sabotage?

                        How can reconnaissance teams move on the TIGER in the 100th brigade .. a riddle ..
                        Quote: ARES623
                        This car can only frighten vagrants on the streets of Minsk. What intelligence, what sabotage? They’ll be safer on foot ..

                        In this case, based on your thoughts, reconnaissance should move exclusively on foot and on the belly, there are no other options. But in this case, why the hell, these armies in the world armies contain these models- BTR SP1A, BRM Lux, Scout SV, BRMM3A2?
    3. ARES623
      ARES623 1 July 2017 23: 04
      +3
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      I hope they get into our army, and not just for export.

      Excuse me, is he needed in the army for hell? What is interesting about him? A manual janitor? It's not funny anymore. About how he will do KAMAZ on off-road - frames of comparative tests in the studio ... The toggle-switch for turning on the "water propulsion" is simply "space" laughing Independent torsion bar suspension, axles and wheel gears from BTR-60. Where else did they put the springs? Probably the superfluous were lying around in the workshop, and they were shoved to make a blunder. In short - a simplified BRDM-2, also without KPVT. And in a civilian, they’ll “tear it off” with his hands laughing
      1. Pancir026
        Pancir026 2 July 2017 09: 36
        +2
        Quote: ARES623
        axles and wheel gears from BTR-60. Where else did they put the springs?

        What are these "springs" were in the suspension of the BTR60? You just painted in complete ignorance of the BTR 60 device, however, everything else is the same.
        Learn what a car is for.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyDJXtyVgM
        tests.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=divF6LjvH_g
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 2 July 2017 10: 26
          +1
          Quote: Pancir026
          What are these "springs" were in the suspension of the BTR60? You just painted in complete ignorance of the BTR 60 device, however, everything else is the same.

          About the springs, the journalist mentioned in the text - "This is the merit of the suspension of the armored car. It is independent here, with two levers per wheel. Suspension struts and reinforced springs are installed." Therefore, I commented on them in a comment. You do not read articles diagonally, everything will be fine. This is better for you to study from the pictures for what this machine is needed. I dashed so much on it on roads and off-road that it’s ridiculous to read your pearls, you are our competent. laughing And the frames from commercials, it’s just tin !!! But the reality is much tougher. You will take a walk along the track of the tankodrome of any SME and TP, and you will see a huge distance from the roads that are shown in smoked videos by journalists who hang this cranberry on TV. You can ask the service drivers of the APC from the SA. For them, those roads that in the videos = asphalt, but softer. And you yourself then, except on the VAZ-TAZ, ride on something? Teacher, ....
          1. Pancir026
            Pancir026 2 July 2017 10: 58
            +1
            Quote: ARES623
            I dashed so much on it on roads and off-road,

            Well, yes. Well, yes, they dashed off ... in the World of Tanks?
            Quote: ARES623
            You will take a walk along the track of the tankodrome of any SME and TP, and you will see a huge distance from the roads that are shown in smoked videos by journalists who hang this cranberry on TV.

            Are you talking to me?
            Well, for nearly 30 years, including the infernal impassability of clay clay in the Czech Republic, what did you want to say?
            Quote: ARES623
            You can ask the service drivers of the APC from the SA. For them, those roads that in the videos = asphalt, but softer.

            Is that me again?
            Well .. starting from the proving grounds of Germany, ending with the proving grounds of the Caucasus and the war in the Caucasus, what do you want to surprise me with?
    4. 89513026469
      89513026469 2 July 2017 08: 56
      +2
      Her troops need to be driven there. Then everything will become clear. And so a good option.
  3. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 1 July 2017 07: 03
    +4
    Oh Borisov! !! Training "Stoves", Borisov match factory - we know, were in Soviet times! Well done Belarusians! !!! good
    1. Abel
      Abel 1 July 2017 21: 06
      +4
      "Stoves" !! One of the best
  4. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 1 July 2017 07: 57
    +5
    An ideal tool for driving along Moskovsky streets. The problem is only with parking
  5. Astoria
    Astoria 1 July 2017 08: 17
    +1
    Can accompany the columns?
    Where? From one rally to another?
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 1 July 2017 09: 59
      0
      Where? From one rally to another?
      For this, the water cannons will come down
      https://mpark.pro/specialization/273-maz-6317x9-s
      torm-water-cannon-features.html
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 1 July 2017 10: 07
        +2
        laughing In the sense of columns with water cannons.
  6. You Vlad
    You Vlad 1 July 2017 08: 18
    +5
    We also need such a technique, and preferably complete with the creator feel
  7. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 1 July 2017 08: 20
    +2
    Vodnik or BRDM-2 in a new way, which has a problem when used in local conflicts in poor defense and resistance from 12,7 mm bullets. KamAZ, by the way, is an ordinary truck, albeit with a decent cross. That’s why we are struggling with the replacement of the Tiger, even if the Scorpion already has an explosion of a 152 mm shell under the bottom. In theory, Belarusians should already be sawing like this.

    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2017 08: 37
      +8
      Quote: kugelblitz
      Vodnik or BRDM-2

      Neither one nor the other. "Vodnik" is not floating, BRDM-2 is "imprisoned" for another.
      "Cayman" is actually a direct analogue of the German-Dutch "Fenech" - a machine sharpened for the installation of intelligence. instrumentation

      For example, machines for advanced artillery and air gunners were created on the basis of Fenech.
      1. kugelblitz
        kugelblitz 1 July 2017 10: 31
        +2
        The same garbage as a matter of fact this Fenech, especially as it prevents to put PAN on the same Scorpio?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 1 July 2017 16: 19
          +1
          Quote: kugelblitz
          more so, what prevents putting PAN on the same Scorpio?

          And how will Scorpio accompany units on floating armored personnel carriers, and even more so on floating armored vehicles and many times surpassing BMP patency?
          1. kugelblitz
            kugelblitz 1 July 2017 19: 06
            +1
            Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles themselves are good reconnaissance vehicles.
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 2 July 2017 11: 38
              +2
              Quote: kugelblitz
              Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles themselves are good reconnaissance vehicles.

              Yes? Actually, it’s like a reconnaissance vehicle-BRM-1.2,3. But it’s not at all an armored personnel carrier. Although, on occasion, an armored personnel carrier is used.
              Scout-BRDM-1,2, so why are you against using Cayman in this role?
              1. kugelblitz
                kugelblitz 2 July 2017 14: 47
                0
                If we already put forward the requirements for patency, then the goose, if to equip observation devices, then feed it in full. There is some kind of shush. Here is a normal scout and advanced gunner.

                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 2 July 2017 14: 54
                  0
                  Quote: kugelblitz
                  If we put forward the requirements for patency, then the goose,

                  Yeah .. RBM in the Czech Republic in that plasticine got stuck at times. Throwing sometimes a goose, an armored personnel carrier on a lowered rubber was walking.
                  BRDM on passability lost and armored personnel carriers and BRM-not least, a narrow track, not to mention the tendency to capsize.
                  1. kugelblitz
                    kugelblitz 2 July 2017 15: 00
                    0
                    The wheels generally have nothing to do with the muddy clay and chernozem, except for ultra-low pressure pneumatics, since the slightest rise or a steep hummock, they begin to dig right away. BRDM for me is idiocy with lowered wheels, it’s better to cut the triaxial then. And the BMP-3 chassis is frantic, it is not for nothing that the Indonesians took them to the sea fir, in terms of access to the difficult coast and forcing swamps, it has no troubles.
  8. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 1 July 2017 08: 27
    +13
    It is difficult to talk about the quality of the car in the article, but there are a couple of thoughts. I very much doubt the outstanding off-road qualities of this car, especially when it is necessary to overcome long places with soft soils, the mass of 7 tons on four wheels is not a joke. The famous shishiga has a mass of about 3,5 tons. The second question is the preservation of the screws hanging behind the wheels behind the wheels, even in the casing, IMHO will not live for a long time, especially when operating in difficult conditions, reversing in cluttered areas.
    The turtle and the hare, of course, are touched, but in military equipment they look dumb. request
    1. SeregaBoss
      SeregaBoss 1 July 2017 19: 28
      +3
      I remember on the Niva harvester, on the box there was also a "bunny-turtle." Reaper raised and drowned like a hare lol
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 2 July 2017 10: 00
        +9
        Reaper raised and drowned like a hare
        good
        There still a "bird" should be present. laughing
    2. Tankograd
      Tankograd 2 July 2017 14: 03
      +1
      The turtle and the hare were used to designate increased and decreased even during the USSR on MTZ tractors.
  9. BastaKarapuzik And
    BastaKarapuzik And 1 July 2017 10: 33
    +5
    Well, in nine years it has grown, girlto the chief designer of the enterprise. Do they have there, there are no normal men ??? The women have to take on men's work, have come.
    With all my heart, sincerely, I wish this wonderful girl quit this unhealthy activity.
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 1 July 2017 15: 02
      +12
      girl
      Let it be - a young woman.
      Women have to take on men's work
      She has a different look than even experienced military men and can notice something that they will not pay attention to.
      I want to quit this unhealthy lesson
      Maybe she wants to do a good deed for her man and she is not very bad at it. I wish her good luck in her difficult business. hi
      1. BastaKarapuzik And
        BastaKarapuzik And 1 July 2017 18: 18
        +2
        Namely, in the text - a girl. Yes, and fragile.
        Therefore, she will not be able to do a good deed for her man.
        As well as her man will not be able to bear and give birth to a child (and it would be necessary two or three).
        And he will not replace mom with children.
        As a result, an unhappy husband, unhappy children, the “fragile girl" herself is unhappy because she spent her life on nonsense.
        Threat Army without bunnies and turtles on the dashboard somehow manage.
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 1 July 2017 18: 32
          +3
          Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
          Namely, in the text - a girl. Yes, and fragile.

          In the photo, it's quite a normal girl.
          By the way, a woman did G66, quite a car turned out.
          Therefore, do not say everything that you have said.
          In itself, the car in its class is normal, light armored car, and use, from reconnaissance to patrolling ...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 1 July 2017 20: 58
            +3
            Quote: Pancir026
            By the way, a woman did G66, quite a car turned out.

            I also heard about it, but it turned out to be a bike.
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 2 July 2017 11: 02
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              I also heard about it, but it turned out to be a bike.

              Behind every great engineer stands an equally great woman - his wife.
              The car came up with Prosvirin.
              And Prosvirin embodied it in reality. laughing
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 2 July 2017 11: 05
                +3
                Quote: Pancir026
                The car came up with Prosvirin.
                And Prosvirin embodied it in reality.

                So be it. yes
        2. Svarog51
          Svarog51 1 July 2017 18: 44
          +11
          Andrew, hi Yes, I, too, am not a supporter of women in the army, but in this case she is working in the rear in military production. How many examples from World War II can be given when wives replaced husbands who went to the front? Hope convinced? wink
          1. BastaKarapuzik And
            BastaKarapuzik And 1 July 2017 20: 47
            +2
            Well, didn’t everyone go to the front? And if you don’t leave, then the situation is strange.
            However, my reverence to all rubbing and in military enterprises, too.
            All of us have a peaceful sky ...
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 1 July 2017 20: 53
              +8
              The answer is not a boy - but a husband. good drinks
      2. ARES623
        ARES623 1 July 2017 23: 13
        +1
        Quote: Svarog51
        She has a different look than even experienced military men and can notice something that they will not pay attention to.

        In order to pay attention to something, you need to ride “something” with it, beat your hands off, rub the calluses. Although, maybe she still managed to work as a “double bass” in intelligence? This is RB !!! wink
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 2 July 2017 10: 19
          +7
          Dmitry, hi
          In order to pay attention to something, you need to ride with this “something”, beat your hands off, rub the calluses
          To be the inventor of "something" and not to drive this invention on the ground? There, most likely, the men asked her to allow her to sit behind the wheel. lol
          1. ARES623
            ARES623 2 July 2017 10: 44
            +2
            Quote: Svarog51
            To be the inventor of "something" and not to drive this invention on the ground?

            You know, the race around the training ground, especially because it’s shown on rollers on the u-tube, is not at all like in real army life, when you live in it for weeks. And then what invention is there. In the article about the BRDM-2, this caiman is generally positioned as a modernization of the BRDM-2, with which I completely agree. To take bridges and hodovka from BTR-60, to remove a tower from KPVT and a wave-reflecting shield - is the invention great? And to put a 12,7 machine gun on an open turret is another idea, a tower with a machine gun could be used as a platform for deploying modern monitoring, reconnaissance and target designation devices, and this is not Bi-8 at all. .... The machine, after all, is not for the shooting range and range, it is after all "reconnaissance and patrol." And in this configuration on it only for mushrooms and fishing ... .IMHO
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 2 July 2017 12: 00
              +7
              Personally, I see Cayman's place where Shishigi is not enough, and armored personnel carriers are redundant. A good owner and a bullish ... um ... have a rope, so there is a job for Cayman. Yes, even as a guard when moving bosses in his immediate rear. No, but still armor. IMHO naturally. hi
            2. Astoria
              Astoria 2 July 2017 23: 04
              0
              It is interesting how many components from Belarus are actually in this machine: in January tut.by reported that it was more than 90%, and now it turns out that it is + -67%, and this is still an experimental batch. And if it comes to production, it turns out that there are even fewer components of the Republic of Belarus.
              PS - 90% is also indicated on the website of 140 repair plant.
              Not only
              "reconnaissance and patrol"
              - used for:
              sabotage operations, patrolling and escorting convoys, conducting peacekeeping and police operations, conducting actions in emergency situations
              - from the series, first done - now we think who to sell. wink
  10. Torkvat torkvat
    Torkvat torkvat 1 July 2017 10: 39
    0
    Girl-delivers and BRDM))) That's all that you can mumble something))
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 July 2017 12: 35
    +3
    Military equipment must match the military’s view of the modern battlefield. in other words, the right technique appears after the correct formulation of the problem by those who fight on it. Everything else - folk art, like the Ukrainian "Navozets", armored motorcycles and "shock drones" in the form of a hybrid shot to an RPG and a $ 20 flying toy from China. What can a girl with a specialty “instrumentation and household appliances” say in a country that has never fought anywhere about a real “Rubilov”?
    And yes - KAMAZ is doing this armored car on the roads.
  12. Mukholov
    Mukholov 1 July 2017 14: 00
    +2
    "Shishigu" also created under the leadership of the Young Lady !!!!
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 1 July 2017 16: 34
      +3
      Also based on the knowledge of the device of refrigerators and washing machines?
      By the way, the first "Constipation" was designed by a woman. Well, there you can see what the woman was doing. The bag should always be in front of you!
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 1 July 2017 19: 12
        +8
        But the classic tanks also have an engine behind. And the frontal for Constipation is not critical if the suspension is not affected.
        1. Berkut24
          Berkut24 1 July 2017 20: 21
          +3
          And frontal for constipation is not critical

          Well, yes, that Constipation, that his crew after the frontal already definitely do not care. If only the identification did not disappoint.
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 1 July 2017 20: 59
            +8
            There was a movie in the 90s where a grandfather, a veteran in Constipation, presumptuous new Russian rammed, unfortunately I do not remember the name of the film. recourse
            1. Berkut24
              Berkut24 1 July 2017 22: 12
              +1
              In films, any peppy end will be drawn. Cinema has its own laws, physics has its own.
  13. Nova
    Nova 1 July 2017 17: 22
    0
    Belarusians copied the German Fenneck, which they wrote about here: https://topwar.ru/14251-fennek-multiplatforma-boe
    vaya-razvedyvatelnaya-mashina.html
  14. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 1 July 2017 18: 59
    +2
    And it’s not a shame, they took the BRDM-2 a bit upgraded and voila zuper Masina Cayman and some kind of left gerla as an affector of this crap, well, is there no DAMAGE?
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 1 July 2017 21: 05
      +2
      Well this is you raving. There from BRDM 2 only sizes with an accuracy of +/- 50%. And so the machine is not bad. Come to see and shed until they are shot. Minus only the screws are weakly sewn. Need to redo.
  15. Abel
    Abel 1 July 2017 21: 01
    +4
    Afftors !!!! What do you curse yourself with? The Belarusians made a good machine - honor and praise to them. Well done. It’s not forever to buy in Russia. Whose engine is it?
  16. DOCTOR ZLO
    DOCTOR ZLO 1 July 2017 21: 35
    +2
    In addition to intelligence, it will be indispensable in the military police and the Russian Guard ...
  17. Bormanxnumx
    Bormanxnumx 1 July 2017 22: 49
    +2
    In the frontal part, the protection of the Cayman is higher than that of the BTR-80. The armor corresponding to the fifth class confidently holds armor-piercing incendiary bullets fired from the SVD sniper rifle

    The frontal armor of the BTR-80, thanks to the "rational arrangement", holds the armor-piercing bullet of the 12,7x108 cartridge, and here they say SVD)))
    1. DOCTOR ZLO
      DOCTOR ZLO 1 July 2017 22: 50
      +1
      confidently holds armor-piercing incendiary bulletsfired from the SVD sniper rifle
  18. Radikal
    Radikal 2 July 2017 00: 14
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    However, Belarusians cannot do without a “bunny”. bully It’s interesting, and what for this girl-designer is a “almost” sheer wall on which a four-wheeled SUV can climb? winked

    Judging by the video, “Cayman” could not climb the slope ....
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 2 July 2017 00: 29
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    It is difficult to talk about the quality of the car in the article, but there are a couple of thoughts. I very much doubt the outstanding off-road qualities of this car, especially when it is necessary to overcome long places with soft soils, the mass of 7 tons on four wheels is not a joke. The famous shishiga has a mass of about 3,5 tons. The second question is the preservation of the screws hanging behind the wheels behind the wheels, even in the casing, IMHO will not live for a long time, especially when operating in difficult conditions, reversing in cluttered areas.
    The turtle and the hare, of course, are touched, but in military equipment they look dumb. request

    The engine with a capacity of 170 horses is alarming, and where it is interesting in this "crocodile" is a fuel tank with a capacity of at least 2500 liters. as the manufacturer declared the consumption of 25l. 100 km, and the range is 1000 km? Or didn’t I understand something? request
    1. KP8789
      KP8789 2 July 2017 10: 22
      +2
      Radikal
      The engine with a capacity of 170 horses is alarming, and where it is interesting in this "crocodile" is a fuel tank with a capacity of at least 2500 liters. as the manufacturer declared the consumption of 25l. 100 km, and the range is 1000 km? Or didn’t I understand something?

      Your math is interesting. Take a calculator, it will be easier to take. One gets the feeling that 80% of the comments are from "shkoloty." Vacations after all .....
  20. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 2 July 2017 03: 35
    0
    Is there a winch?
  21. tracer
    tracer 2 July 2017 06: 26
    +4
    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE THAT WITH VISION IS BAD? Look carefully at the distance between the wheels .... In the BRDM, the fools probably made two sliding wheels? POWER 140? plus minus? WHAT ARE YOU CONFUSED FOR? What the hell is this power for such a weight? I have a REM 350 on a civilian SUV ... More ... Look at the quality of the welds. It looks like the girl not only cooked it but also cooked it ..... herself ... with Bengal candles from the new year. YOU BEFORE PRAISING EVERYONE, look carefully. That is, of course, better ... Than what?
  22. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 2 July 2017 07: 25
    +2
    If this is a modernization of the BRDM, it’s fine ... you can put reconnaissance equipment and anti-tank systems. At least we have no floating analogue.
  23. renics
    renics 2 July 2017 11: 15
    +1
    And why do we need this bodyagi with a crew of six people plus a driver? In my opinion, this is something other than a collective fraternal cemetery sarcophagus. In the description there is not even a hint of tactical and technical characteristics of the methods and purposes of its use. It’s obviously not suitable for military purposes, only to pacify civil riots and organized riots.
    1. Pancir026
      Pancir026 2 July 2017 11: 35
      +2
      Quote: renics
      And why do we need this bodyagi with a crew of six people plus a driver? In my opinion, this is something other than a collective fraternal cemetery sarcophagus.

      Do you have at least some army experience?
      Quote: renics
      It’s obviously not suitable for military purposes, only to pacify civil riots and organized riots.

      This is on what basis you put forward as a kind of ultimate truth?
      Explain what is better than armored cars-Tiger, Lynx, Vodnik? And also take the trouble to explain what, in your opinion, their functions.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 2 July 2017 15: 58
      0
      What is the tiger for? Not a tank which?
  24. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 July 2017 14: 44
    +1
    Honestly - I did not understand the enthusiasm for the creation of a new BRDM. What is so radically new in this car that it is praised by everyone and everything? I did not notice. For me on the internet there are many options giving a second life to the "glove compartment". And for much less money ...
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 2 July 2017 17: 00
    0
    Quote: KP8789
    Radikal
    The engine with a capacity of 170 horses is alarming, and where it is interesting in this "crocodile" is a fuel tank with a capacity of at least 2500 liters. as the manufacturer declared the consumption of 25l. 100 km, and the range is 1000 km? Or didn’t I understand something?

    Your math is interesting. Take a calculator, it will be easier to take. One gets the feeling that 80% of the comments are from "shkoloty." Vacations after all .....

    A typo.
  26. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 July 2017 19: 25
    0
    The idea is good, but there are questions: 1 armor stronger than that of the BTR80 will hold a bullet from the SVD, but what about a large-caliber rifle, such as Hacking, etc.? Now the Papuans are already glancing at such weapons, the two main ones: if they have such talented girls, I completely admit this, what the hell are Chinese armored cars?
  27. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 July 2017 19: 33
    0
    Quote: Mukholov
    "Shishigu" also created under the leadership of the Young Lady !!!!

    A "shishiga" will come out of any dirt
  28. Albertcoin
    Albertcoin 3 July 2017 02: 08
    +2
    Too much distance between the axles. On wet soil, it will constantly sit on the belly. Not an option for the army, but rather for a citizen.
  29. Nikas
    Nikas 3 July 2017 08: 08
    0
    If this is true, then I can only congratulate the Belarusians on their successful creation! God grant that this machine helps to carry out combat missions and maintain personnel!
  30. james
    james 3 July 2017 09: 16
    0
    Cheap advertising, Belarusian style. And what is there that the girl designed it? And who would let her in front of the chief designer, chief engineer, etc. not just to develop something on paper or a computer, but also to translate it into metal?
  31. ilyaches
    ilyaches 3 July 2017 11: 22
    0
    normal machine, I liked wink
  32. ARES623
    ARES623 3 July 2017 18: 16
    +3
    Pancir026,
    Quote: Pancir026
    Armor and its durability.
    Forehead top - 12 mm / 60-65 gr. = 24-28 mm
    Forehead bottom - 10 mm / 45 gr. = 16-18 mm
    Bead top - 8 mm / 35 g = 11-12 mm

    This geometry is good in a shooting gallery, where they shoot at the forehead from one angle, almost always at the same level for centuries. You tell the "Afghans" about this, you will learn a lot about yourself. The fact that you think that this armor will keep the NSV and KPVT bullets is your fantasy. You can ask, among other things, American adventures in Iraq, where 75% of the defeat of armored vehicles is in the side projection and in the stern. Yes, intelligence should not go head-on, but for some reason they don’t put it on UAZ either. In general, any new equipment is made for a specific purpose. And if you give me an example of an adversary technique such as Lux or Scout, then yourself and compare these machines with Cayman. BRM Lux on 4 bridges, 19 tons with a 20 mm automatic, 70s production two heads above the Cayman 2015. Well, why so laugh? Europeans make a modern fleet of lightly armored vehicles for police missions, such as in Chad, against Libya, Afghanistan, i.e. against the enemy who does not have high-tech weapons, where after processing the enemy with aviation and artillery, without serious opposition, you can start infantry in simple hammers. We are preparing to confront forces of a completely different order, which are at the height of modern progress. That is why in the Russian Federation they are working quite intensively on the "heavy" BMP and armored personnel carriers. Back in 66, we switched from 60PA, with a hole in the roof for an open machine gunner, to a 60-PB with KPVT in the tower. You suggest going back. What's the catch? Do we have gelatin balls with paint instead of “iron”? I think that you would not have put your son-scout in this canned food of the 50s of the last century .... look with a fresh eye, compare with what you have, imagine what you would like in the place of the commander of a reconnaissance group, and you yourself will come to I conclude that this car is not a Cayman, but a rotten crucian, forgotten by fishermen on the shore.
    1. tracer
      tracer 7 July 2017 01: 12
      0
      AND ADD NOTHING
  33. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 7 July 2017 23: 49
    +1
    But he’s beautiful ...))
  34. kafa
    kafa 8 July 2017 13: 50
    0
    From a good base you can "dance easily"!
    Soviet technology!
    From zero it is more difficult at times !!!
    Perhaps the chief designer of the enterprise, Olga Petrova, will be able to come up with a new one!
    Good luck in such an easy task!
  35. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 22 January 2018 22: 47
    0
    [quote = AlexVas44] [quote = Cat] ... An example - for PR technology lover! Designer girl who got to the factory on acquaintance. [Quote]
    Pleasantly surprised by the designer girl, the nugget directly. In the years of my youth, a legend bike went that the BTR-152 was created by a female designer.
    Well, today the creation of armored vehicles is almost a hobby - tigers, lynxes, otters, etc. It’s not worth picking on them. Moreover, the author pays more attention to the use of the "caiman" as a fishing craft for fishing somewhere far away. [/ Quote]
    About the shishigu, too, the bike was that a woman made it