The Ministry of Defense will consider increasing the age limit for military service

Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the military department to consider the possibility of increasing the age limit for military service, reports RIA News.

The corresponding list of instructions on the results of the “straight line” is published on the website of the head of state.

Recall that in the course of the “straight line”, answering a question, Vladimir Putin said that the issue of increasing the maximum service life of officers can be resolved positively.

The Russian defense ministry should consider, together with interested federal executive bodies, the possibility of increasing the age limit for military service and submit proposals,

stated in the text of the order.

The corresponding report must be submitted to the president by December 20 of the current year. Responsible for the implementation is the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu.

Comments

[Black_Vatnik]

Still it would be nice to have military training among the storekeepers in nature, not on paper ....

[MPK105]

No, I need to work, I don’t need to go to the training camps. But the warriors and cops can be increased — young uncles and aunts — they are pensioners. and police pensioners?

[The black]

I am sure that the issue will be resolved positively. Moreover, it is beneficial both to the state and the military.

[mummologist]

Quote: Black

I am sure that the issue will be resolved positively. Moreover, it is beneficial both to the state and the military.

Well, yes, death will also die.

[Black_Vatnik]

And I would have drove for a week to fees. The thing is useful, a lot of urgent service is already being forgotten, although it was not so long ago.

I agree when the police ... the policeman at the age of 35-36 is already a pensioner - this is not buzzing. Maybe I also wanted to get money at 35 just because I was so good.
And not to say that their work is hellish (in any case, far from everyone) ... here people at the rigs leave all their health ...

[The black]

You confuse the length of service with the age limit ....

[Roman 11]

Quote: Black_Jacket

And not to say that their work is hellish

The combat conditions for the retirement qualification, as well as the amount of the pension, can be written in a separate line, and also for contract soldiers.

The remaining categories, I agree, will be raised by 5 years.

[Rushnairfors]

Normally, everyone chooses a profession,

[Taran 75]

Dear, and you have been plowing the land for 20 years, talking with a drug addict and drinking, and did you resolve family scandals? and mass fights? and they took drunk with cutoffs? so wave your sledgehammer on yourself and don’t write about what you don’t know personally .... and you drink vodka at home on weekends and holidays, and you probably haven’t heard such a gain ... so leave the military and cops alone

[Black_Vatnik]

Dear, do not boil. Better yet, carefully re-read everything I wrote.
Run at -40 in the Siberian wilderness as an assistant driller erbs to enjoy the fullness of life. Many work hard, some very hard, and some in hazardous work leave all their health.
And yes, I don’t drink vodka from the word at all. I prefer tea to alcohol.
"so, leave the military and the cops alone" - and who actually runs into them? No exaggeration.

[Taran 75]

Quote: Black_Jacket

"so, leave the military and the cops alone" - and who actually runs into them? No exaggeration.

it was for IPC 105

[The black]

Quote: Black_Jacket

yes, I don’t drink vodka from the word at all. I prefer tea to alcohol.

But this is already alarming ... I didn’t drink vodka today, tomorrow I sold my homeland

[Roman 11]

Quote: Black

But this is already alarming

Really alarming ..

Is there really one alcoholism and drugs hanging out in Russia?

[The black]

A sho vodka drinks only drunk?

[Roman 11]

Quote: Black

A sho vodka drinks only drunk?

It’s looking, if with suspicion, then she’s the most

[The black]

With suspicion, this is ka3, enlighten .... I see you are a saddened person ..

[Freeman]

Quote: Black

Quote: Black_Jacket

yes, I don’t drink vodka from the word at all. I prefer tea to alcohol.

But this is already alarming ... I didn’t drink vodka today, tomorrow I sold my homeland

As they say - you won’t erase a word from a song ...

Forgive me ..
...
What with suspicion to those who don’t drink,
And after the chorus they sing with us at the table.
...
/ A. Rosenbaum. "Forgive me" /

[k174oun7]

No one bothers to come to the nearest military registration and enlistment office, to conclude a contract for military service - and all the pension is in your pocket. You’ll run not with the Erbs driller, but with the AGS grenade launcher. This is theoretically. And how in practice life will show. Try anyway.

[Titsen]

Quote: Black_Jacket

And yes, I don’t drink vodka from the word at all. I prefer tea to alcohol.

You need to be shown in the museum!

[Sergej1972]

Why? Now there are clearly more non-drinkers and non-drinkers. In my opinion, we had two peaks of drunkenness - the end of the 70s-beginning of the 80s and the mid-end of the 90s.

[demo]

Run for ten or fifteen years with an opera night-midnight, holiday-day off. vacation in winter and halved, plus gain and emergency.
They take it for everything.
The first to be fired is young.
But when you get to the major underground, then the pension is not a joy.
A close friend retired at 47.
Well what else is brisk. And I wouldn’t know what to do. And so in HOA solves legal issues - barking with the city authorities.
God forbid such a life.
About ten times they nearly banged. Three times in the hospital, cut-broken.
Two business trips to Chechnya.

And an increase in the service life is for the top command staff.
Well, where are they poor? To plant flowers at the cottage? In the State Duma there are no places for everyone. And so let them sit, if only they would not do harm.
Well done GDP. Good girl. Let them sit, old people.

[Black_Vatnik]

I will answer you in the same way as the respected above.
Reread carefully (!) What I wrote. I now know one employee who normally transfers waste paper from a locker to a locker, has risen to starling and plans to retire as a captain ... Does he even think of any business trips to Chechnya - does he need it?

[Titsen]

Quote: Black_Jacket

I now know one employee who normally transfers waste paper from a locker to a locker, has risen to starling and plans to retire as a captain ... Does he even think of any business trips to Chechnya - does he need it?

Every family has its black sheep!

[Taran 75]

Quote: MPK105

It’s unfair to several, don’t you find, military and police pensioners?

and you would have worked at least a couple of years, maybe you stopped writing nonsense

[pvv113]

At one time, such Stepan Oleinik wrote a feuilleton in the poetry “Girevik”, in which he spoke unflattering about military pensioners. The officers answered him on this feuilleton, also in verse

Response to Stepan Oleinik's feuilleton GIREVIK

I read the feuilleton.
That's the thought! That's the tone!
Inside out the facts are-
I can not answer.

Yes, not a god, but a gentleman
Our Soviet officer.
He’s the cavalier of those medals
What in the war for blood was given.
He served when your brother
In the yard he played a soldier.

People went to college -
The officer went to the platoon.
A peer studies like in school
Officer on the belly in the field.

I crawled for a year or a half,
They say to him: "It's time!"
Served, lived like a pan,
Go to Magadan.

Or you can go to the Kuril Islands -
A land that is sweet to the heart.
Every day an earthquake
In a couple - a flood.

The military - everyone knows
There is no middle:
Kohl East - so it is Far!
If North - So Extreme!
Where is the swamp, not the land
Where it’s darker and more dull.

Wind, snow, frost grows stronger
The officer steps forward.
People see the fifth dream,
He pulls a gun in the field.

You haven’t opened your eyes yet
The officer is already in the soap.
For the sake of good, for the sake of business
Do not spare the soul and body!

In addition to everything
Happiness fell to him
He is from those lands forgotten
Where he served ten years old,

He landed in the center of Russia.
A whole month, mouth agape,
He wandered around the shops
In theaters and cinema
He had not seen them for a long time.

Everything is fine here, of course.
There is human furniture,
Nowhere to place
Because there is no place to live!
Not in her own and not in beautiful
He began to live in a private apartment.

How long did he live like that? Not a year.
Some live right now - in the corners,
Like an old cat.
What is it for you?
And an apartment with a bath, with gas,
Communal toilet
And the family is with you all the time.

And his family to him
Every day will be able to see
Only when he retires
Ile most likely in paradise.

People at 2 hours from work
Returning on Saturday.
Iron trousers and shirts
And with a girlfriend under the arm
All gaitless soon:
Who is in the movies, and who is out of town.

And in the distance, stooping shoulders,
Someone is moving towards
Stepping into a puddle
On the cobblestone pavement.
Officer from the service
Just stomping home.

Who runs like a fire
Day and night, young and old
Who doesn’t know good dreams
Is she just resting on vacation?

He is all an officer
Future pensioner.
This is someone else
Humiliates himself.

Let the satirist smart one
Will take a company, or platoon
May he serve 25 years,
May his fate circle
Let half the world go on foot
In studies in one summer,
Let your family for 20
Sees 12 years old,
Let in the woods among the animals
He will live without people
Let him know all the hardships
May fire and water pass
And then it will go to the reserve ...

I don't know which of you
I began to criticize myself.
Call a parasite!

Parasite and loafer
There are among you, Oleinik!
Even more, even more often
Even cleaner, even more beautiful!

Builds a house, plants a garden
And scribble in the newspaper glad.

Not a satirist, you joker
Dear Stepan Oleinik.
They took the facts, perverted,
Feuilleton composed.

I am quite authoritative
I tell you tactfully,
From fellow soldiers and personally -
This is just NOT EXCITABLE!

Who served will understand

[Rushnairfors]

pvv113 thank you so much, it’s very cool written, really just nothing to add. COOL!!!

[pvv113]

Poems are not mine. Just remembered since the cadet years

[yuriy55]

Quote: MPK105

It’s unfair to several, don’t you find, military and police pensioners?

What prevented you from providing this justice for yourself? Shoulder straps rubbed? Go on about the shovels that rake war money ...

[cariperpaint]

I well remembered one moment in 90 years when I was traveling with my father in a bus. travel was free for officers. and this is so outraged for an incomprehensible reason to me people. 20 minutes while they were driving, they barked about the fact that at 45 they were already pensioners and plow till I don’t remember how long they had been working with us there. father still served then, and I was a Suvorovite. I remember it became so disgusting ... that nothing happened to him only during the service. also consider a student a member of the army. Tver. then Kazan. then where the hell was it. turned gray at 38 completely. so this topic about working in civilian life is difficult for me it's like a mockery.

[pvv113]

In the 90s, we were not paid monetary allowances for several months. Lived as they could. So the free ride was almost the only joy

[hohkn]

Quote: MPK105

It’s unfair to several, don’t you find, military and police pensioners?

You know, we don’t find ... Wounds and concussions do not pass without a trace. Our boyfriend, born in 1966, retired several years ago, and died last year ... He didn’t live a bit before fifty dollars ...

[Titsen]

Quote: MPK105

But the warriors and cops can be increased, young uncles and aunts are pensioners. And who waves a sledgehammer and plows a field, figs, we will live up to this pension. It is unfair to several, don’t you find, military and police pensioners?

But "who waves the sledgehammer and plows the field" the houses lived and did not blow into ... no places!

[siberalt]

Actually, it all started with a discussion of age for contract officers who expressed a desire to serve after retirement by age. But, it is thought that under this sauce, preferences will have age generals, who will be difficult to "sit out", waiting for their natural demise. And who needs these “gags” in a military career? Perhaps I'm wrong and the authorities know better.

[yuriy55]

Quote: siberalt

Perhaps I'm wrong and the authorities know better.

Perhaps one should conduct annual (every five years ???) certification on knowledge of the military profession and identification of physical weaknesses to determine the issue of monetary allowance ...
You look, and Mr. General became hey-general ...

[iliitchitch]

Right, I guess. Now the generals have become hearty, not like with the drunk there were "dumplings from the Arbat parquet district."

[Young_Communist]

The Ministry of Defense will consider increasing the age limit for military service

A very wise decision. He was 50 years old (if he did not drink too much and did not turn into a funny fat bass) - a very valuable shot in his specialty.

[To be or not to be]

On 01.01.2012 g
General — 866
Colonel-3114
Lt. Col. 7500
Major 30000
Captain 40000
Senior Lieutenant-35000
Lieutenant 26000
Total for 1 01 12 g-142000
In April 2015, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Nikolai Pankov said that the number of officers in Russia is about 200 thousand people. (Probably in connection with the newly formed associations. Units and units of the Armed Forces)

[figwam]

Quote: Young_Communist

A very wise decision. He was 50 years old (if he did not drink too much and did not turn into a funny fat bass) - a very valuable shot in his specialty.

Now it is already possible up to 50, and now they will increase it.

[To be or not to be]

You accidentally did not serve in the KDVO .. for example, in Sysoevka of the Yakovlevsky district of Primorsky Krai .. under Arsenyev ??

[siberalt]

I served in Filino near Iman, but for a long time. I remember the nearest post office was in Sebuchar, and the lip was in Lazo.

[moskowit]

Of course, a very long time ago ... I’m in Bikin, Vyazemsky and Lermontovka, as well as in Khabarovsk and Blagoveshchensk .... I opened a map to see the places of service .... And Iman wanted to find. He is now Dalnorechensk ... In 1972, many Chinese names were changed after the battles at Damansky .... Yes, but Iman was with us ... There, if I remember correctly, the headquarters of the Iman border detachment was ... Maybe now there...

[k174oun7]

If you, when applying for a job in Russia, say that you are 50 years old, further questions about value as a frame, skills and knowledge become irrelevant.

[moskowit]

It is high time. For the most part, servicemen have to retire to the reserve full of strength and health. In fact, in the middle of life. And the second part of life must be built again. Look for a business. Adaptation is always difficult ... In the civilian sphere, pensioners are drawn to 70-75. Of course, it is impossible to compare. But .... The commander of a battalion or warship, still full of ambitious and career plans, responsible for the lives and health of hundreds, and even thousands of people, is forced to vegetate as a security guard in some sort of aisle ... Well, there are "connections", friends, settled down earlier ... Help ... And children in families? it’s just the time to finish school, a turning point in life .... And so, until the 50-55 it is quite possible to serve, and then already “dig into the cottage”. Everything will be arranged ... Rest, rejoice ....
I remember very well when my father, lieutenant colonel, went to the reserve in 41 for a year ... In the middle of 60, it was easier. After a year, at least housing was provided .... And classmates were friends at the beginning of 90's. "general guard", how they arranged .... It’s good with the parents, and who have already left ...

[Koteg]

Roman legionnaires also served a quarter of a century, but the strap of the service was harder then, so you can safely raise to 55 years

[Victor Wolz]

why not up to a hundred? He doesn’t have to pay pension and died, and 13% of the percent that they take away from the salary every month is better for the state to remain more reliable there. Whoever doesn’t like those can be fired, and with a length of service of 24,5 years and without an apartment, try to find work in 45 years. You comrades confuse service with serfdom. And after the service the legionnaire was given a land plot or its monetary equivalent, and most importantly during campaigns and wars, robbery was sacred.

[Koteg]

1) the majority of citizens work up to 55 years old and nothing military like the state’s citizens like the rest is neither better nor worse (in case of participation in hostilities it’s understandable for three or even five years, it’s not a pity) 2) and kick out of work in our country can almost anyone except for the different thieves born under a happy *** doy_so I think it is necessary to improve the system of legal protection of all workers and employees of citizens and their rights and not to indulge employers and senior officials and military leadership_state should guard the rights of most citizens and not a narrow group 3) and the serviceman must receive housing immediately upon admission to the service and if the military court does not recognize the violation of the oath and the charter, no one has the right to dismiss him or take housing (as the noblemen serving in Tsarist Russia received an estate and serve to old age)

[Victor Wolz]

Yes, with good intentions ... Raising the retirement age is specifically to keep a soldier in one place so that he does not leave earlier, first a mortgage then a pension. I think the effect will be the reverse of youth after 25-5 years will be fired, and the generals will sit exactly on the ass.

[Koteg]

good intentions this is the beginning of the road_ well let's now lower our hands and don’t whip the sour cream and surrender to mercy by thieves in large-scale epaulets and soon more generals than soldiers will become generals more interesting than ordinary servants

[HEATHER]

I went to the reserve at 35. Not because I didn’t want to serve. Then there was a massive reduction in officers. At the headquarters of the Armies there were candidates above the roof. We were scattered last. Therefore, we remained overboard. As far as I know, we have 20 nobody considered the years of service the limit. Even if they were preferential. They served. But the 90s were knocked down. And not weak. I had to serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But you should understand. After the airdrome, the perimeter and the thorn. -for two was. And now I'm longing for helicopters. Oh, politicians. Gather you all in a clearing, and educate you with batogs. How many fates the power holders broke.

[Farid05]

would remove the restriction from the Caucasians, and would not have to increase anything.

[siberalt]

A good dog is great. But for some reason the muzzle is invented. I ask you not to be offended, but this is how the army is organized.

[Farid05]

I don’t take offense, of course, why solve the issue, it’s much easier to stupidly ban - and so with us in everything ...

[Des10]

why remove it is a limitation --- everywhere in \ employees from the Caucasus - both officers and "conscripts". A lot of.

[Farid05]

Quote: Des10

why take it off

Do you think this is normal?

[vladimirvn]

Increase the service life of military officers. In the Duma, a bill to increase the length of service to receive a minimum pension of 25 years.
It’s rare that someone sits in an office, before that without running through the fields of 15-20 years. And with combat experience, I think we have 30-40 percent of officers. And we are not resigning, but in reserve. And in which case, always ready. To the Donbass volunteers in the forefront, who went? Therefore, such a pension, because the mentality is special. And all sorts of exceptions and cases, only confirm the rule.

[k174oun7]

Yeah. In the current provisions, if an officer drags the service as it should, reach the limit or as we said perdelnogo age was not to wait. Some benefits under the law are set only upon reaching this very limit. The care of the Fatherland, the former homeland in girlhood, is evident.

[Freeman]

Quote: siberalt

But, it is thought that under this sauce, preferences will have age generals, who will be difficult to "sit out", waiting for their natural demise.

Of course. Why are generals worse than officials?

On May 23, 2016, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin signed the Federal Law on raising the retirement age of state and municipal employees, which will enter into force on January 1, 2017.
Civil Service Leaders
For executiveslike today term of public service may be extended up to 70 years. But for them, the procedure for agreeing on such an extension will change. If at the present time this is decided by the president, then after the amendments enter into force, further service by such persons will be extended by the federal state body that appointed them to the position or by the corresponding official.
source: https://informatio.ru/news/glavnoe/zakon_o_povysh
enii_pensionnogo_vozrasta_chinovnikov_prinyat_v_g
osdume /

So shta - "serve as starls, until gray-haired mu..y - you will never become a major."

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

As already mentioned above, do not confuse the age limit and the maximum service life. If you served 20 years, now now, regardless of age, you CAN retire. Putin is not talking about increasing the service life. The point is that an officer who has reached a certain age should not be retired regardless of his desire. It is no secret when a subordinate has experience, knowledge and authority and, accordingly, has his own opinion, which may not coincide with the opinion of the boss, it is extremely inconvenient for such a boss. There are no reasons to get rid of such a subordinate due to official inconsistency or other negative reasons. And then such a subordinate turned 45, or as now 50 years old. And that’s all, regardless of the state of health, business and other qualities, an officer can serve - under his knee, "upon reaching the age limit"! Everything is legal. Not one court will not reinstate, but higher-ranking bosses will always support the leader, and not his subordinate. (From personal experience)

[Victor Wolz]

After 50 leave for a year, and so it is necessary to confirm their need every year, but medicine can hack and business qualities will not help.

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

Of course, only very healthy people should serve. By the way, when I was dismissed, the medical board recognized me fit for service without restrictions.

[Victor Wolz]

Intrigue. Of course, by 50, being healthy these days is almost impossible.

[Victor Wolz]

Although officers, unlike warrant officers and sergeants, have a sin to complain about retirement. At the ensign she is about 14 thousand after 20 years. and up to 24 pieces with 32 years of service (this is the limit) and for an officer after 20 years (captain) from 25 starts, and for example, lieutenant colonel 32 years 45 pieces. So does it make sense to serve as an ensign? Maximum 20 years and nafig. But the ensign and sergeants are not primarily warehouse but technicians with a secondary specialized and secondary technical education and a lot of higher education.

[tolancop]

Quote: MPK105

No, I need to work, I don’t need to go to the training camps. But the warriors and cops can be increased — young uncles and aunts — they are pensioners. and police pensioners?

Well, they would not go to wave a sledgehammer, but to the military and police. Whining and whining about early retirement. And they forget or don’t know what is going on 20 years before this pension. And there is a lot of unpleasant. And live up to this pension, alas, not all. And it happens that pensions do not have to rejoice for long. I knew one "right cop." He waited for a pension. I managed to get it only 2 times - the engine refused. Do you want to envy his fate?

[colonel manuch]

It’s time for a long time! Although I would return the old -25, I plowed 32.

[brdm]

We will look at this creation of MO. Here are 100 pounds specialists in years will be buried. In all the troops. From a diver to emergency field surgery.