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The former head of intelligence GDR said that the West keeps from starting a war with the Russian Federation

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Western countries would have unleashed a war with Russia long ago if it were not a nuclear power, Werner Grossman, the former head of intelligence of the GDR, said in an interview with Sputnik Deutschland.




Nowadays, the threat of war persists, even in Europe, and it is directed primarily against Russia ... If not for the nuclear weapon, the war would have begun,
quotes Grossman RIA News.

He added that in the West "in recent years there has been a very strong anti-Russian tendency."

The former head of intelligence believes the defensive policy of Moscow - "if you want peace - prepare for war" - is right in this situation.

If an armed conflict now begins, it will entail the destruction of mankind, because many parties can use nuclear weapons, and without limit and without control,
added on.

According to Grossman, the goals and interests of the ruling elite in the West have not changed since the days of the Cold War, so there was a return to the old course of confrontation with the Russian Federation.

Their interests are still directed east. If Russia did not inherit weapons from the USSR, including nuclear ones, the war would most likely have already begun,
sure he is.

Veteran intelligence also supported the annexation of the Crimea to Russia.

Crimea has always been Russian. He was returned legally
He stressed.

Grossman noted that the reaction of German politicians to this event "testifies to the fact that Berlin’s intentions towards Moscow remained the same as during Soviet times."

The deployment of alliance troops in the Baltic, near the Russian borders, clearly indicates what their intentions really are.
he concluded.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 22 June 2017 09: 24
    +11
    They didn’t have to start a war .. But they didn’t finish our country in the 90s .. And now it's late, the train left.
    1. The black
      The black 22 June 2017 09: 25
      +38
      History shows that Russia always needs to prepare for war, such is our fate.
      If the West had a guaranteed opportunity to defeat Russia with minimal losses for itself, it would have unleashed this war long ago !! Only now, damned Russia does not give such an opportunity ... !!!
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 22 June 2017 09: 28
        +85
        Grossman noted that the reaction of German politicians to this event "testifies to the fact that Berlin’s intentions towards Moscow remained the same as during Soviet times."

        The Germans attacked our country. Not some fascists without nationality, as many now want to imagine, namely the Germans. Over the past century, they twice went to war with us.
        It is foolish to think that they have changed. And the Germans, and the Finns, and the Romanians, and the Bulgarians, and the British and the mattresses are all enemies.
        These ghouls killed two of my grandfathers. And this happened on Russian soil. My grandfathers protected us from these voracious scum. Burn them all in hell to these Europeans.

        It's time to return the day of victory over the French. And it should be a public holiday.
        And let the inhabitants of Europe continue to hold parades of buggers. Who they are.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 June 2017 09: 36
          +18
          Quote: Vladimir16
          The Germans attacked our country.

          Today, this very day is the 22nd.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 22 June 2017 09: 41
          +19
          Today is June 22nd. A day of remembrance and sorrow. Let's be silent and commemorate all the dead ..
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Grossman noted that the reaction of German politicians to this event "testifies to the fact that Berlin’s intentions towards Moscow remained the same as during Soviet times."

          The Germans attacked our country. Not some fascists without nationality, as many now want to imagine, namely the Germans. Over the past century, they twice went to war with us.
          It is foolish to think that they have changed. And the Germans, and the Finns, and the Romanians, and the Bulgarians, and the British and the mattresses are all enemies.
          These ghouls killed two of my grandfathers. And this happened on Russian soil. My grandfathers protected us from these voracious scum. Burn them all in hell to these Europeans.
          It's time to return the day of victory over the French. And it should be a public holiday.
          And let the inhabitants of Europe continue to hold parades of buggers. Who they are.
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 22 June 2017 11: 11
          +4
          By the way, did you notice that in the gay ropes they began to build 4 Reich? In France, through the elections, the American puppet was brought to power, which means it was weakened, and Germany was strengthened and subordinated to the rest of the tolerant. The preparation of cannon fodder for the war with Russia has entered a new phase ?! Then the powerful Arab emigration to Germany - the future soldiers of the new Reich - fits well into the logic. There are few gay rocists left, and their motivation is even worse.
          1. 32363
            32363 22 June 2017 11: 45
            +8
            Quote: AKuzenka
            By the way, did you notice that in the gay ropes they began to build 4 Reich? In France, through the elections, the American puppet was brought to power, which means it was weakened, and Germany was strengthened and subordinated to the rest of the tolerant. The preparation of cannon fodder for the war with Russia has entered a new phase ?! Then the powerful Arab emigration to Germany - the future soldiers of the new Reich - fits well into the logic. There are few gay rocists left, and their motivation is even worse.

            scribe, Arabs soldiers of the Reich fool , they could not protect their homes, stood on slippers and dumped from the country, and you want them to hammer for Germany, where is the logic?
        4. Dead duck
          Dead duck 22 June 2017 11: 34
          +6
          Quote: Vladimir16
          The Germans attacked our country. Not some fascists without nationality, as many now want to imagine, namely the Germans.

          Not the Nazis, but the Nazis, and under their banners was almost the entire united gay rope.

          Over the past century, they twice went to war with us

          In the first, the Russian Empire itself climbed, according to "fraternal duty."
        5. Skif83
          Skif83 22 June 2017 12: 28
          +1
          The main thing is that we do not change! And they did not change the memory of grandfathers ...
          Who our allies said is still Alexander III.
          “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies,” he liked to speak to his ministers, “our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ”

          The leaders of the country are false to read this phrase, first of all, for themselves and their retinue upon taking office.
          This is the cornerstone of all relations between Russia and the outside world. Whoever does not understand this is not ready to lead Russia.
          From the same phrase you can build foreign and domestic policies, economics, etc.
          Actually, everything is like two or two, Russia is the largest and richest country in the world, all wars are fought over resources, the most diverse, but resources. Everything else is nonsense, verbiage.
          If you have the greatest resources, when will you be left alone? That's right, when you will be able to tear everyone for your resources, your land, the graves of ancestors.
          Imperial policy is precisely aimed at creating a single empire, where there will be no "partners" who brazenly look at your house. Whoever is not with us is against us, and the enemy, as you know, must be defeated, and it is better to smell the flowers and admire the grass from the other side ...
          No wonder the following character spoke:
        6. armourer
          armourer 22 June 2017 18: 40
          0
          Quote: Vladimir16
          And the Germans, and the Finns, and the Romanians, and the Bulgarians, and the British and the mattresses are all enemies.

          It is a pity that they did not destroy everyone at the root, regretted it! For our grandfathers, grandmothers, for the killed and crippled lives, for our land there will be no more pity for them !!!
      2. Dead duck
        Dead duck 22 June 2017 11: 38
        +5
        Quote: Black
        History shows that Russia always needs to prepare for war, such is our fate

        "And the eternal battle! We only dream of peace." (with)
        1. Monos
          Monos 22 June 2017 13: 09
          +4
          According to Grossman, the goals and interests of the ruling elite in the West have not changed since the days of the Cold War, so there was a return to the old course of confrontation with the Russian Federation.

          Oh, what an ally they lost ...
    2. Maskom
      Maskom 22 June 2017 09: 36
      +2
      Yasha Kedmi has a German clone)))
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 09: 53
        +10
        Quote: Maskom
        Yasha Kedmi has a German clone)))

        Yesterday I watched his speech live on Russia 2 .. His eyes were cunning, but he spoke good thoughts! And it pleases all the same .. The weight of Russia in the world is growing and very fast!
        1. dorz
          dorz 22 June 2017 10: 04
          +2
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Western countries would have unleashed a war long ago

          It is obvious. Nobody canceled the global nuclear strike and the offensive missile defense system is a confirmation of this.
          1. bashkir
            bashkir 22 June 2017 11: 24
            0
            "offensive missile defense system" - "white is black." How to understand?
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 22 June 2017 10: 34
          +3
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Eyes cunning, but spoke common sense

          Rubbed in trust wink Do not believe him Vitaly, they have their own interests!
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 13: 44
            +4
            Quote: you Vlad
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            Eyes cunning, but spoke common sense

            Rubbed in trust wink Do not believe him Vitaly, they have their own interests!

            I don’t believe it, but Jews everywhere in our mass media smile artfully ..! And they teach us how to live according to their laws ...
        3. Monos
          Monos 22 June 2017 13: 10
          +6
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          . Eyes are cunning, but spoke common sense!

          He himself said: "I am a Tagan’s punks." smile
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 22 June 2017 09: 36
      +12
      Grossman forgot that Europe, in fact, has been occupied by the United States since 1945 and still pays a loan to the loan for the "Marshall Plan." And where would she go to fight with Russia without the go-ahead of the Americans? So, what is the USA thinking for this "wise guy".
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 22 June 2017 09: 43
        +22
        Quote: siberalt
        So, what is the USA thinking for this "wise guy".

        Most Ozi survive the capture of the GDR by West Germany, for them it was the same blow below the belt ... They curse the same Gorbach ...
        Everyone understands that it was precisely the seizure of the GDR that took place, and not a "reunion" ...
    4. Goodmen
      Goodmen 22 June 2017 10: 03
      +14
      Quote: 210ox
      And now it's late, the train is gone.

      I would not argue so categorically.
      What changed? The erysipelas under power and the advisers are almost the same, they just went through the redistribution of property between the oligarchic clans, removed the unwanted, divided the loot. Pressure methods have changed. One influx of Asians and Caucasians from sovereign states "friendly" to us is worth what. Time bomb. + our inadequate.
      The fact of adoption by the Duma of a law on the concealment of information on property of officials (. Recently adopted) is indicative. That is, another nail in the coffin of the social orientation of state domestic policy. You can list for a long time.
      As we lived according to the constitution written by the USA, we live. As the Fed paid tribute to the petrodollars, we pay.
      As the people are impoverished, it continues.
      As a competent domestic policy was not carried out, it is not carried out.
      And the fact that the army is being developed is either the success of the remaining healthy forces in the country's administration, or the oligarchy wants to protect itself so that the power and the loot of NATA would not be taken away ... Perhaps it was just that the interests coincided.
      Success in foreign policy to obtain great opportunities to chop the dough oligarchy.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 22 June 2017 10: 15
        +6
        I agree with you. +
        About the social gains of ordinary citizens in the era of the USSR, the country quickly forgets ...
        Capitalism will destroy the unity of the people ...
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 22 June 2017 11: 14
          +4
          Yes, and the army is moving towards the hired.
      2. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 13
        +1
        to a point, that’s how it is.
  2. MPK105
    MPK105 22 June 2017 09: 25
    +12
    "If not for nuclear weapons, the war would have already begun."
    With all due respect to him, it was clear to me a long time ago, Herr Grossman didn’t reveal any truth, rather, he revealed the secret of the open session ...
    1. The black
      The black 22 June 2017 09: 27
      +10
      Russia's position is clear and, in my opinion, correct - "the USA will not be able, as before, to sit behind its oceans until a nuclear war rages in Europe or Asia !! Do not even hope !!"
      Americans are already wondering and so ... Really will not work !!
      And for them, even one warhead in New York or Washington is tantamount to a national disaster !! For others, this is perfectly acceptable! Even if all the "allies" in Europe burn up in fire !! But not in the States !!
      It seems to me that in Europe they are becoming more aware that they are hostages to this policy !! They cannot but be aware !! After all, it lies on the surface. Europe will one day be faced with a choice - either to burn out for American interests, or to live with its own mind and its own interests.
      1. RomanRVV
        RomanRVV 22 June 2017 09: 34
        +9
        Europe should not be aware of this. Kim won straightforwardly say, we don’t reach the USA - we burn Japan and South Korea.
      2. DenZ
        DenZ 22 June 2017 09: 58
        +2
        Quote: Black
        Europe will one day be faced with a choice - either to burn for American interests, or to live with its mind and its interests

        While they will make such a choice, they will definitely burn. Since they cannot think with their own minds, and Americans not only think, but also immediately do it. The fate of Europe seems sad to me.
      3. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 22 June 2017 11: 15
        +2
        Who is aware there ?! Some patriots ?! And what will they do if the Amerov puppets are in power. Nothing, only the air is shaken when they are allowed to.
    2. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 22 June 2017 09: 35
      +4
      having nuclear weapons is not all. At the very beginning of the aggravation of relations between Russia and the West, in 2008, he said that Russia was not ready to aggravate. The matter is not even in the state of the Russian Armed Forces, - The point is in the early warning system for launching ballistic missiles. And only when in the 13th and 14th years such a system began to work, it became possible to talk to the West not equal and finally not to talk and act on your own.
      1. lwxx
        lwxx 22 June 2017 09: 40
        +5
        Quote: tolyasik0577
        having nuclear weapons is not all. ..
        We must still have iron eggs to apply it, but here's the question.
        1. nakhtigalsif
          nakhtigalsif 22 June 2017 10: 04
          +4
          Quote: lwxx
          Quote: tolyasik0577
          having nuclear weapons is not all. ..
          We must still have iron eggs to apply it, but here's the question.

          Fuf ... reassured. So there will never be a nuclear war ... Nobody has any iron eggs ...
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 22 June 2017 11: 16
            +6
            Even the horse of Peter the Great, they are copper ... what
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  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 22 June 2017 09: 27
    +2
    For this person, there is no work in the European Union, most likely. Otherwise, I would not say that. They can also fix a pension.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 22 June 2017 09: 44
      +8
      Quote: iliitch
      For this person, there is no work in the European Union, most likely. Otherwise, I would not say that. They can also fix a pension.


      Well, why scribble idiotic comments? This is the former head of intelligence for the GDR.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 22 June 2017 09: 58
        0
        Quote: sergo1914
        Well, why scribble idiotic comments? This is the former head of intelligence for the GDR.


        Really, why?
        He lives in the GDR, most likely. hi
  5. keeper03
    keeper03 22 June 2017 09: 29
    +1
    Even without you, we know this, better explain it to your NATO supporters! angry
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 22 June 2017 09: 45
      +4
      Quote: keeper03
      Even without you, we know this, better explain it to your NATO supporters! angry


      Mom started up for the computer? What are the hangovers of the former head of intelligence of the GDR? Only GDP. Like a former colleague. Get ready for the exam, shkolota.
  6. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 June 2017 09: 32
    +11
    I always said that the main factor that gives us time to prepare and rearm is the nuclear triad. But, if earlier nuclear weapons were an indisputable deterrent, now this is no longer the case.
    It is interesting that youth on both sides believes that a nuclear conflict will not lead to the destruction of our civilization, and therefore no longer fears such a war ...
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 22 June 2017 09: 42
      +7
      Young people do not know what war is. Unfortunately, veterans are leaving and the realities of war are leaving with them.
      Our youth need to be educated.
      And let the rest of the world roll into the abyss. They are now facing the problems of buggers. What a war there. not to it to them when the glasses itch.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 09: 57
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir16
        Young people do not know what war is. Unfortunately, veterans are leaving and the realities of war are leaving with them.

        Yes, they know, it’s already in the genes of the Russians .. In the case of kneading, the nation is going to fist and then “Mom, don't cry, we’ll go to take the capital of the world ..!”
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2017 10: 00
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir16
        Young people do not know what war is.

        Young people, yes, they don’t know ... but what about the 30-year-olds who dig bomb shelters and claim that they are in a light war, they will survive? Here on the forum, even spit such and get.
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Unfortunately you are right

        I will rephrase one phrase of Abdulov, from the film "Genius" - THE WORLD OF NON-SCARED I.D.I.O.T.OV.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 22 June 2017 10: 11
          +5
          I agree. There were a lot of frightening fearless ones.
          1. uskrabut
            uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 53
            +2
            Again Kuzkin’s mother must be blown up on Novaya Zemlya. Refresh, so to speak, memory.
        2. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 13: 40
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS
          But what about the 30-year-olds who dig bomb shelters and claim that they are in a war, they will survive? Here on the forum, even spit such and get.

          Have seen enough American channels, or lived there ....)))) I have not seen such, I think they are Muscovites! wassat
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 22 June 2017 14: 47
            +3
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            Have seen enough American channels, or lived there ....)))) I have not seen such, I think they are Muscovites!

            Dear, open your eyes ... there are no such measures at VO ... one argued that he had dug up a bomb shelter and he didn’t give a damn about all the cataclysms. But nuclear weapons were generally “clean” and in a couple of days they would all weather and everyone would go to work ... these are the thoughts of some 30-year-olds sitting here.
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 15: 59
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              Have seen enough American channels, or lived there ....)))) I have not seen such, I think they are Muscovites!

              Dear, open your eyes ... there are no such measures at VO ... one argued that he had dug up a bomb shelter and he didn’t give a damn about all the cataclysms. But nuclear weapons were generally “clean” and in a couple of days they would all weather and everyone would go to work ... these are the thoughts of some 30-year-olds sitting here.

              Call me him ...! At least a nickname .... He’ll bury me back with a sapper spatula! And he will give out the stew to the poor ... Such bastards must be calculated in advance! negative
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 22 June 2017 16: 17
                +3
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                Call me him ...! At least a nickname .... He’ll bury me back with a sapper spatula! And he will give out the stew to the poor ... Such bastards must be calculated in advance!

                You can’t ... he is a businessman ...
                1. DEPARTMENT
                  DEPARTMENT 22 June 2017 16: 26
                  +4
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  Call me him ...! At least a nickname .... He’ll bury me back with a sapper spatula! And he will give out the stew to the poor ... Such bastards must be calculated in advance!

                  You can’t ... he is a businessman ...

                  Okay, I’ll find it myself ...
            2. AID.S
              AID.S 22 June 2017 23: 01
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              in a couple of days, everyone will weather out and everyone will go to work ...

              To the office .... or to some "Elmudio" TVs to sell ...
      3. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 16
        0
        It is necessary to educate, only the authorities for some reason do not understand this, there is no ideology other than how to eat and more satisfying, no
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 22 June 2017 09: 43
      +8
      Unfortunately you are right. In the United States, the capabilities of the already created missile defense system and the components that are being created are everywhere extolled. The media reported that another five years and the United States will be unattainable for any missiles. In addition, there are articles that Russian nuclear weapons have already degraded from old age and radiation, and all its components created in the Soviet years no longer work, and there is nothing to replace them with, as U.S. agents have achieved the destruction of the enterprises where they were manufactured. Russia cannot test a new elementary base for nuclear weapons because of a moratorium on nuclear tests. There is nothing to be afraid of the type of Russian nuclear weapons because there is practically none.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 22 June 2017 09: 46
        +9
        Continue to believe in your exclusivity. Soon they will tell you that you live forever and can survive any explosion. Even if you have your head torn off, it will grow back. Watch your movies, there all this is already proven and shown. Mattress is the land of the gods. wassat
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 20
          +3
          and we are not the same? Do they not say that the nuclear weapons mattresses are rapidly aging, but there is nothing to replace because the enrichment plants were closed? Everything is the same in mirror image, with the exception of missile defense, but we have the S-400 and S-500 on the way
      2. shubin
        shubin 22 June 2017 09: 58
        +8
        You won’t believe it, but they say the same thing about American nuclear weapons in Russia! laughing
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 22 June 2017 10: 14
          +1
          What, they also say about
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          New elementary base for nuclear weapons
          wassat
          Or just want to please the striped flag?

          elemental, watson hi
  7. shubin
    shubin 22 June 2017 09: 34
    +5
    The military instructor at school told me about this.
  8. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 22 June 2017 09: 37
    +2
    Sitting at a table and a computer, you can win a war and a tank battle. In fact, they would have attacked a long time ago, back in 1946, had it not been so scary and the corpses of the Nazi elite had not loomed behind their backs. And at the computer, then we are all brave warriors.
    1. mkop
      mkop 22 June 2017 13: 13
      0
      In fact, it is those "brave warriors" who will give orders for the attack. And in most cases, when it comes to them, and it becomes scary, it's too late. They will already be going to finish off through hundreds of thousands of corpses of soldiers' lives, which could only fulfill the order of "brave warriors at the computer." I do not know a single war that would have begun at the will of the ordinary.
  9. Sergg
    Sergg 22 June 2017 09: 37
    +9
    The United States is afraid of a head-on collision with Russia, although it has a clear superiority in armaments, and is afraid of getting an answer in the form of nuclear missiles on its territory. Nuclear weapons have held back the start of World War III for more than 50 years - a well-known fact.
  10. K-50
    K-50 22 June 2017 09: 42
    +8
    Only Russia stands in the way of the West before global rule. The rest of the countries will lick to the owners any place that they point them to. Even China, if it remains alone with the Naglossaks, will not be able to do anything, it will simply be strangled and the population of one and a half billion will not help. Somewhere they will deceive, somewhere they will bribe and there is no more that China. Therefore, he clings to Russia, as if drowning in a straw.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 50
      +3
      The Chinese do not need war in principle, they have a different strategy - to quietly populate other states with their population.
  11. Altona
    Altona 22 June 2017 09: 51
    +5
    The honorary citizen of Germany, EM Gorbi, should be tapped on the head for the surrender of the strategic interests of the USSR and the collapse of the country.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 23
      +1
      no one will annoy him, for most of them are in power. wanguyu - and they will erect a monument and name the street, or maybe they will build another center
  12. Altona
    Altona 22 June 2017 09: 55
    +2
    Quote: Sergg
    The US is afraid of a head-on collision with Russia, although it has a clear superiority in armament

    ----------------------
    The West has superiority in conventional weapons; Russia's nuclear arsenals are more powerful and modern. As for the "ideal quality" of Western weapons and the mockery of our Bulava missile, the West has in its assets unsuccessful launches of rather old missiles, which the United Kingdom recently noted, which is not sure that Trident-2 will fly wherever it goes from their submarines In addition, several bombs with tactical nuclear charges were lost to the west.
    1. novel66
      novel66 22 June 2017 10: 17
      +5
      oh well, lost - I suppose the Jews stole sitting quietly giggle
  13. JonnyT
    JonnyT 22 June 2017 09: 55
    +7
    The most dangerous thing is that now the Americans are actively driving the idea of ​​their vassals that the use of nuclear weapons is not as catastrophic as everyone thinks. Dreams of a limited and decapitating nuclear strike do not leave the head of American strategists. Again, do not forget about missile defense, which creates the illusion of impunity. In fact, the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons is now much lower than in the Cold War. It is vitally important for Russia to erect its defensive redoubts as far from the center as possible - this is what will really cool the hot heads. In the meantime, Moscow in the "walking distance" for the Kyrgyz Republic the temptation for them is too great
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 47
      +1
      It's time to return the missiles to Cuba, and in Venezuela you can push the VKS base.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 June 2017 09: 56
    +3
    To unleash a war, They will try to ruin from the inside. Only the method chosen WRONG. Whip. And it’s necessary - a carrot.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 45
      +1
      Usually one whip replaces two gingerbread cookies, but for this you need to be able to control the whip.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2017 10: 04
    +2
    Werner Grossman, the former head of intelligence of the GDR, did not reveal anything new to us. In connection with this information, we should expect that the number of countries leading or wishing to develop nuclear weapons will only increase.
  16. Bath
    Bath 22 June 2017 10: 08
    +1
    here ento’s head opened his eyes to a male sivolapomu and we miserable thought we had some friends there but no adversary German again loaf of bread crumbles Americans threaten the Chinese to chinens and our Japanese have Duc finally say Sukhalinnash))) I'll go with glass and again, I’ll fight with my bear and I don’t want a bastard quadrille bambling on my balalaika
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 June 2017 10: 16
    +3
    If not for nuclear weapons, the war would have already begun,

    Thank you for opening your eyes to reality. Without the former intelligence officer of the GDR, we would never know about this.
  18. Altona
    Altona 22 June 2017 10: 19
    +1
    Quote: novel xnumx
    oh well, lost - I suppose the Jews stole sitting quietly giggle

    --------------------------
    Israel behind the scenes has about 200 nuclear weapons.
  19. Altona
    Altona 22 June 2017 10: 21
    +5
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Thank you for opening your eyes to reality. Without the former intelligence officer of the GDR, we would never know about this.

    -------------------------
    In our time, and obvious things need to be voiced. Schoolchildren in the West believe that the United States and Great Britain won the Second World War, and that the turning point in the war was near El Alamein. The Russians dropped the nuclear bomb on Japan, although it only appeared in the USSR in 1949. Such is their knowledge.
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 22 June 2017 11: 41
      +3
      The Russians dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan, although it only appeared in the USSR in 1949.

      So it is not only in the West. Such comments came to me from our small "fraternal" Caucasian peoples.
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 44
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Schoolchildren in the West believe that the USA and Great Britain won the Second World War

      And where are Russian hackers looking! It’s time to flood the Internet with true information about WWII and the role of the USSR in the victory over Germany, so that a Western citizen, including any gadget (even an iron and a coffee maker), will immediately see and hear about all these facts. Yes, and the Japanese also need to be educated, otherwise they lick the ass of the American ghouls who dropped atomic bombs on Japanese cities.
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 28
        +1
        here they’re not particularly educated, but you are talking about the geyrop and the Japanese. What is WWII, if after school astronomy was canceled by many schoolchildren, the sun around the earth twisted
      2. Goodmen
        Goodmen 22 June 2017 12: 52
        0
        Quote: uskrabut
        And where are Russian hackers looking!


        The idea is sound. But they have no time, they’ll troll elections around the world)))

        But seriously, such a program should be launched at the state level by the relevant intelligence agencies. Oh, dreams, dreams ..
        No one cares. There is no one to bring order to their information space, not to broadcast around the world! Terry liberalism under the protection of the guarantor of the constitution (as amended by US specialists) rules the ball ... It's sad, however ...
  20. Million
    Million 22 June 2017 10: 25
    +1
    And why people do not live in peace? ....
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 39
      +2
      This is how Western civilization works - they need to enslave, rob, kill someone. Otherwise, it’s somehow not civilized.
  21. Lesorub
    Lesorub 22 June 2017 10: 32
    +1
    USA, Europe! playing muscles near our western borders, building up armed forces, BUT, in the European theater of hypothetical military operations, Europe and the USA have no chance, I think the military clearly realizes that Europe will cease to exist after the attack on Russia! More like a distraction! - But have you prepared a surprise for us from the East ???
  22. DOCTOR ZLO
    DOCTOR ZLO 22 June 2017 10: 36
    +1
    Western countries would have unleashed a war with Russia long ago if it were not a nuclear power, Werner Grossman, the former head of intelligence of the GDR, said in an interview with Sputnik Deutschland.

    Well, for this, you don’t need to be the former head of the GDR intelligence to make the conclusions indicated in the article, about this and about something else, you will be told by the woman Dusya at the entrance and will present a detailed report on the changing political situation in the world with 1991-2017 .
  23. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 22 June 2017 10: 37
    +1
    With the slogan "Without Russia, there is no life!" to explode all nuclear weapons in their territory and the whole world to pieces! And finally, we will rid the Cosmos of such a virus as humans
    1. DOCTOR ZLO
      DOCTOR ZLO 22 June 2017 10: 46
      +3
      First you need to implement the May decrees of GDP, and then the whole world is in ruin, you want to take everything away from work ...
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 22 June 2017 12: 29
        +1
        then we will live forever
      2. Goodmen
        Goodmen 22 June 2017 13: 03
        +1
        Humor helped us, helps and will help us endure all the hardships and hardships)))))
  24. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 June 2017 11: 02
    +2
    Everyone is aware of this .... a nuclear war will not leave anyone a chance of survival ...... Russia, like its entire history, has been an outpost in this unstable world. Between West and East ...
  25. cedar
    cedar 22 June 2017 11: 11
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    To unleash a war They will try to break apart from the inside. Only the method chosen WRONG. Whip. And it’s necessary - a carrot.


    Naturally ... how did they revolve the USSR? The Five Army Army did not even jerk. Seventeen the CPSU mullen even didn’t put a hundred thousand on Red Square ... The KGB shook it like sticky ... Why don’t you repeat the banquet ..?
    Moreover, agents of influence are now from top to bottom, like herrings in a barrel, and note-taking Westerners, like fleas on a dog ... Under the noise, screams, various "tables" and shows, they dig and dig, and be sure to dig and undermine, IF...
  26. Janus
    Janus 22 June 2017 11: 34
    0
    We are peaceful people but our armored train .......
  27. uskrabut
    uskrabut 22 June 2017 11: 34
    +2
    If Russia had not inherited weapons from the USSR, including nuclear weapons, the war would most likely have already begun

    And do not go to a fortuneteller! Only fear of being destroyed and holds back the west from an attack on Russia. And such concepts as honesty, justice, humanity for Western civilization are just an empty phrase and insignificant concepts. But to kill, take away, humiliate - this is the norm for the West. In international relations, as in the jungle - if you do not want to be devoured, then do not look like food. The more weapons Russia has, powerful and inevitable, the higher its determination to use it, the safer.
  28. Shumanit
    Shumanit 22 June 2017 11: 42
    0
    Quote: lwxx
    Quote: tolyasik0577
    having nuclear weapons is not all. ..
    We must still have iron eggs to apply it, but here's the question.

    In a vigorous war, iron bells are not pride, but a hindrance, for molten metal will drip onto the berets !!!
  29. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 22 June 2017 12: 07
    0
    The former head of intelligence GDR said that the West keeps from starting a war with the Russian Federation
    And then we did not know.
  30. 01-02-2000
    01-02-2000 22 June 2017 13: 22
    +2
    The inhabitants of the "democratic west" nurtured by their propaganda believe that it is against them that the whole NOT THEIR world.
    the arguments of the other side are considered propaganda, and the place to be thought of has long been replaced by minced meat from "pork-salt and hamburgers."
  31. satum
    satum 22 June 2017 15: 12
    +1
    Quote: Black
    History shows that Russia always needs to prepare for war, such is our fate.
    If the West had a guaranteed opportunity to defeat Russia with minimal losses for itself, it would have unleashed this war long ago !! Only now, damned Russia does not give such an opportunity ... !!!

    The war has already been 2000 years -How they abandoned the Slavic religion in favor of a foreign (Jewish) religion. That is why they are cursed. Like Judas betrayed Jesus and was cursed. So we betrayed our religion and are cursed as well.
  32. Will
    Will 22 June 2017 15: 34
    +1
    SMART MAN - what else to say.
  33. Prjanik
    Prjanik 22 June 2017 17: 51
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    They didn’t have to start a war .. But they didn’t finish our country in the 90s .. And now it's late, the train left.

    They just didn’t have time to cut all our nuclear weapons for the rule of EBN.
  34. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 22 June 2017 18: 37
    0
    Well, and what new did Herr Grossman tell ?!
  35. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 22 June 2017 21: 00
    0
    Quote: Deadush
    The first Russian Empire itself climbed

    In fairness, on July 31, 1914, Russia declared general mobilization, and on August 1, Germany declared war on Russia. And then only Russia, so to speak, climbed in.
  36. Doliva63
    Doliva63 22 June 2017 21: 53
    +7
    Comrade says everything correctly, but the ex-head of intelligence of the GDR was with a different surname, no?
  37. Radikal
    Radikal 22 June 2017 22: 50
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    They didn’t have to start a war .. But they didn’t finish our country in the 90s .. And now it's late, the train left.

    You are too optimistic about the "train has already left," I understand - this is from a lack of information, it happens. laughing I always want to believe in the good! And that happens! However, the analysis of the internal situation in the country, especially its economy, and of course the situation in the world, unfortunately, indicates the opposite. And the topic is too voluminous to fit into the commentary on some article!
  38. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 22 June 2017 23: 17
    0
    Let them remember the story and know that you can’t fight with Russia, it is too dangerous for your health. So it was at all times, even when there was no nuclear weapon, take care of our sworn "friends." Remember this and you will be alive.
  39. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 22 June 2017 23: 34
    +1
    Yes that's right, this Grossman said.
  40. Music
    Music 23 June 2017 00: 04
    0
    What news! They just remember that Super Bomb at 58. Mgt. And they understand that it has not yet been fully tested. And you don’t even have to drag her. There are many dangerous volcanoes in the Kuril Islands ...
  41. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 23 June 2017 11: 37
    0
    Western depraved scum just need to keep constantly on the gun. And these reconnaissance air raids at our borders simply need to be stopped by shooting down an overpowered plane. And this will stop bullying. There are established flight rules that must be followed, period.
  42. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 26 June 2017 19: 29
    +1
    The West will always hate Russia for its independent policy, it is envious of Russia, since Russia itself decides how to live it, how to behave in the international arena, which can put anyone in their place, and the West cannot do this, therefore he is angry, trying to somehow inject Russia, to show that they can talk with us on equal terms, or even with imaginary superiority, but the whole world can see that these are not smart actions, quietly threatened from around the corner with a finger and hid right away, do not let God, so that no one sees, but if Russia roars once, the tail will be tightened also by holes, warriors.
    1. north
      north 27 June 2017 21: 52
      0
      They are still envious that we have a lot of firewood in Siberia))