The alarms of the “Syrian denouement”: “Super Hornet” has worked, HIMARS in the queue. Ways of counteraction

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As we have already managed to observe, the military-strategic situation in the European, Middle Eastern and Persian-Asian conventional theaters continues to evolve according to the most complex pre-escalation scenario, with a lot of unpredictable details and moments. Nevertheless, the main operational directions, the alignment of forces of the parties, as well as their technological equipment can be partially determined and analyzed. Against the background of the upcoming active phase of the confrontation in the Donbass theater of operations, where the people's corps of the LDNR militia will have to restrain the onslaught of the Ukrainian military formations, and then begin the counter-offensive breakthrough of the only line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the southern front with the liberation of Mariupol and Volnovakhi occur in a multilateral military conflict on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.



Syrian government troops currently have significant tactical advantages in almost all operational areas. In particular, when aviation support of tactical fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the MTR, the successful offensive of the Syrian Armed Forces continues along the Palmira-Deir-ez-Zor highway, where the settlement of Arak, which was previously a temporary near rear fortified area and operational logistics support point for the caliph, is completely liberated for units controlling the western approaches to the captured Palmyra. While maintaining the current pace of the offensive operation in the eastern operational direction, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA, Syrian Ground Forces) in a few weeks will be able to begin artillery preparation and cleansing from ISIS of the rather large city of Es Sukhne. Thus, under the control of government forces will be the central part of Syria (northeastern territory of the province of Homs).

9 of June 2017 of the year can be considered as a date strategically important for the NEs of Syria and VKS of Russia. It was then that the government forces were able to squeeze through the Iraqi-Syrian border. This cast instantly foiled Washington's 2 strategic plan. The first envisaged the establishment of a powerful buffer zone (consisting of militant opposition VTS and American instructors, covered by the USMC) between the CAA and Iraqi militia units to prevent their cooperation and the inability to further advance in the direction of Deir ez-Zor from the south-west. The second plan was to come into force immediately after the creation of a "tactical buffer" between the Syrian army and the Iraqi mobilization detachments.

He envisioned a lightning “march” of pro-American VTS and the USMC at Deir ez-Zor. The Americans and their Syrian satellite militants from the VTS planned to seize the city immediately after the ISIL militants began to “soften” the defense of the CAA. As you know, our overseas "friends" could move much faster to Deir ez-Zor thanks to all the known "tools" of influencing the caliphate, both directly and through Israeli channels. But that's bad luck! As a result, all the strongholds and garrisons of the VTS and the US Marine Corps near the military base recently erected near At-Tanf were held up in a huge tactical cauldron, which was limited to the village of Al-Zukuf in the north-east and the environs of Essaouida - in the south-west.

At the moment, such a picture is taking shape that all pro-American units of the VTS, including the assault backbone of the US KMP in At-Tanf, are in a “cauldron” surrounded mainly by Syrian government forces, Hezbollah and the Force of the Tiger special forces division. The ground component of the coalition forces now does not have any serious strategic moves, but all this is only for the time being, because mobile launchers of the high-precision MLRS M142 HIMARS were completely randomly transferred from Jordan to the At-Tanfa region.

Starting around June 13, the disappointing information about the preparation of the IG Caliphate units continues to come to the assault on two fortified regions of the NE of Syria, located south of and west of the city of Deir-ez-Zor. An attempt to suppress the data of the CAA enclaves under this strategically important city may begin long before the arrival of units of the regular Syrian army, and therefore the Russian attack aviation will have to work very hard in this sector. There is absolutely no doubt that experts from the Pentagon have very high hopes for the destruction of the above fortified government forces in Syria by ISIS. And it is clear to the layman that the caliphate will not be able to oppose the defensive Deir ez-Zor aviation of the HKS of Russia to the defensive; Here, the HIMARS KMP US operators can help the militants very well by opening fire on the large-caliber Syrian army’s enclaves - MGM-140 / 164B ATACMS Block IA / IIA tactical ballistic missiles. The combat radius of these missiles is 300 km, which allows "reach" to Deir ez-Zor even from the southern At-Tanfa. The use of M142 HIMARS with ATACMS OTBR can be expected at the moment when the Syrian army units reach the intersection of the “Palmyra - Deir-ez-Zor” highway from the Meyedin tou Deir-ez-Zor Highway (8 km from the city).


The “swinging” launch module of the combat vehicle of the multipurpose M142 HIMARS MLRS is unified with the similar box-shaped launch modules of the BM M270 tracked jet propulsion system MLRS. The difference is that M142 has only one trigger module. The following can be used as “equipment”: 1х6 launch cage-blocks with 227-mm unguided missiles М26А1 / 2 or corrected high-precision missiles M30 GMLRS / XM30 GUMLRS, which have a range, with a range of M92 GMLRS / XM610 GUMLRS, with a range of precision missiles, with a range of 9ML GX / XM300 GUMLRS, which have a range of precision missiles that have a range, with a range of 9 km, GXMX / XM142 GUMLRS, with a range of precision missiles GNRSXXMLUM / XM500 and 340 GUMLRS. “Large caliber” are ATACMS OTBRs with a diameter of 350 mm and a range of up to 2 km, which are only in the amount of one unit placed in the MXNUMX launcher. The next-generation LRPF missile with XNUMX km range and XNUMX caliber - XNUMX mm will increase HIMARS ammunition to XNUMX units


After a very effective massive use of this high-precision lightning weapons (KVO does not exceed 25 m, and the missile marching speed reaches 1500 m / s) at military sites of the CAA near Deir ez-Zor, as well as the regular units of the SV Syria, official Moscow may once again accuse Washington of directly supporting the terrorist organization No. XXUMX (IG), as well as sever any bilateral "channels of communication and coordination of actions." Alas, the Pentagon from these countermeasures is neither cold nor hot. We can get a very negative result - the loss of Deir-ez-Zor, as well as all the eastern approaches to it. Believe me, the United States with the IG will always find a common language. Let's say more: Washington will very quickly find an argument in favor of using HIMARS against the Syrian army, for which the formation of allied VTS or other groups of "moderate militants" will be miraculously thrown into the confrontation between the CAA and ISIS. regime of Bashar al-Assad. You can simulate a lot of situations here, but one constant remains: the actions of the pro-Western coalition with its Arab satellites in the Syrian theater will push Moscow to more radical countermeasures than useless statements by foreign ministry representatives.

Naturally, our military contingent will not be attacking the Caliber and Iskander on the deployed HIMARS at the current stage, as the coalition OVVS did not attempt to attack our military facilities at Hmeymim airbase or on the Tartus logistics base. But to cover the units of the SAR government troops, our videoconferencing systems are obliged for a long time, otherwise, what kind of allied relations can we talk about ?! As for the threat from HIMARS, immediately after the release of Es-Sukhne, regular patrols by a MiG-31BM link of a narrow segment of airspace between Deir ez-Zor and Al-Zukuf will be required. It is this segment that will become the most rocket-dangerous approach of the American ATBMS ATBMS approach from the position at At-Tanf. Foxhounds have all the necessary tools to destroy ATACMS missiles. In particular, the long-range guided missiles of the R-33С and Р-37 air combat, adjustable airborne radar with PFAR Zaslon-AM allow to intercept air objects flying at speeds up to 6400 km / h, while the OTB MGM-140B / 168A on the cruise flight only accelerates to 5500 km / h.


A decent asymmetrical response to the deployment of the MLRS HIMARS in At-Tanf could be the placement of a pair of C-400 Triumph battalions in 40 km southeast of Palmyra. Such an arrangement would allow intercepting ATACMS launched tactical ballistic missiles using the 48H6D missile even at the launch leg of the flight. Triumph could also intercept small-sized XRS XM30 GUMLRS URS, which can be launched by HIMARS calculations for the CAA units operating north of At-Tanfa. However, “Triumphs” in missile defense on this site cannot take part, because the unpredictable situation on the ground theater in the south of the ATS does not guarantee the safety of an expensive air defense system with secret operation algorithms and radar 92H6E energy parameters


For timely notification of the launch of OTBR, the MiG-31BM link should also be given an A-50U AWSD aircraft, otherwise why was it then transferred to Syria? Watch the destruction of the Su-22 pilot of the American F / A-18E "Super Hornet"? Fortunately, after this incident, the command and command of the Russian Aerospace Forces clearly demarcated the coalition zones over the SAR allowed for tactical aviation of the OVVS and threatened to “seize on accurate auto-tracking” all aircraft crossing the Euphrates River to the west. It is understandable that the low-flying Super Hornets or the Raptor F-22A will not be detected by the 92H6Е and 9С32М C-400 and C-300В4 radar and the Euphrates west of Euphrates, which doesn’t reach more than X X-CHI-CHNUMX and CH-30-35 and the Euphrates west of Euphrates, since they get no more than X X-CHI-CHN-XN-X X-XMH-X-NNXX and X-NNXX of the Euphrates, as they are no more than X-X-CH-XN-X-XN-X-X-Xnum-X and Te-50 and X-NNXX and X-NNXX and X-NNXX and X-NNXX X-systems. It will be made specifically on fighter aircraft and long-range radar patrols and A-XNUMXU airplanes.

The first threats from Moscow have already yielded a tangible result: the coalition OVAS significantly narrowed the sector of operating their tactical aviation from the huge “triangle” “Deir ez-Zor - Abu Kamal - Raqqa” to a small section above Raqqa, where they are attacked in order to advance the VTS and the USMC in a city captured by the Caliphate. What will happen next, time will tell, as well as the sophistication and “toughness” of countermeasures undertaken by aerospace forces.

Information sources:
https://warsonline.info/siriya/blog.html
https://www.fondsk.ru/news/2017/06/10/pod-prikrytiem-shturma-rakki-terroristy-vydvigajutsja-na-palmiru-der-zor-44136.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/himars/himars.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/atacms/atacms.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/mlrs/mlrs.shtml
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig31bm.html
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  1. +8
    22 June 2017 06: 54
    What is the article about? How to ruin the army of Syria? So it is almost gone. Only those who survived remain. And Der-ez Zor should be ours.
    1. +4
      22 June 2017 07: 27
      Such an arrangement would make it possible to intercept ATACMS operational-tactical ballistic missiles with the help of SAM 48N6D at the launch site. Could “Triumph” intercept small-sized URS XM30 GUMLRS
      , Isn't it too expensive for GUMLRS to intercept with triumph?
      1. +3
        22 June 2017 11: 20
        it all depends on the cost of the place where the projectile should positively fall) and even the 400 missiles include short-range missiles
        1. +8
          22 June 2017 13: 05
          in order for the Americans not to be outrageous, it’s enough that hezbols and Kurds have second needles and cornets, when Turkish and Israeli planes and helicopters begin to fall over Syria, the yankee’s arrogance will decrease, and our hands are clean. America is "not involved" in the downed Russian plane, so there will be no claims to us
    2. +18
      22 June 2017 08: 46
      If the United States, unashamedly, is helping arms to all groups in Syria, then why can't we do the same for self-proclaimed republics outside Ukraine?
      1. +2
        22 June 2017 10: 55
        Quote: siberalt
        then why can't we do the same for self-proclaimed republics outside Ukraine?

        The United States officially and unofficially, the Russian Federation unofficially - but physically the same thing happens ...
        1. +2
          22 June 2017 12: 54
          USA - Unofficially. We help self-proclaimed republics from the very beginning of the conflict. Sorry, there are no reports on Facebook - you just have to put up with it.
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      2. +3
        22 June 2017 13: 04
        Quote: siberalt
        why can't we do the same for self-proclaimed republics outside Ukraine

        Yes they did. And there were vacationers. Tougher to act is not enough power and unity and patriotism (without quotes and in fact and not in talk shows) of the elites. How to fight if "Katz offers to surrender"
        1. +1
          22 June 2017 20: 07
          We have a lot of things missing, all the aces of the Americans. The economy, military power, and just human potential. However, no matter how anyone swears, he did not introduce sanctions - anti-sanctions, the game will not start until it is clear who grabbed the joker. Although judging by the cunning Putin, we definitely have one. Americans will receive the second - wait for trouble.
          I apologize for the comparison, but life is a game, just one try
      3. +4
        22 June 2017 19: 00
        Quote: siberalt
        If the United States, unashamedly, is helping arms to all groups in Syria, then why can't we do the same for self-proclaimed republics outside Ukraine?

        Do you really think that all used ammunition for small arms, artillery and mortars, Grads, Hurricanes, etc., etc., our militia every time they squeeze from banderlogs (steal, buy, etc.)? And do Donbass enterprises earn money for the maintenance of a sufficiently large and equipped Lao PDR army? laughing
        There is no word, the stew from Makeevka meat processing plant is very tasty, and I try to buy only it, but this is not enough to equip the army ... request Who is such a generous unknown helping the young republics? what Maybe it's small, but strong and rich South Ossetia? drinks
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        1. +7
          22 June 2017 19: 01
          The new Jewess has something wrong with the letters и и е, and it’s strange, why not a Jew for a hidden obscenity? belay Because God's chosen ones?
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    4. 0
      22 June 2017 19: 19
      Heather Today, 06: 54
      What is the article about? How to ruin the Syrian army? So it is almost gone. Only those who survived remain. And Der-ez Zor should be ours. And where is there about "how to ruin the Syrian army"?
  2. +2
    22 June 2017 07: 02
    Shoot down ballistic ATACMS with air-to-air missiles? Somehow it is very confusing ...
    1. +1
      22 June 2017 07: 28
      But will not the destruction of American missiles by Russian planes be an act of aggression?
      1. +12
        22 June 2017 07: 34
        No, it will not. The right to self-defense.
        In general, we should start to shoot down American UAVs for a long time, referring to this right. Then HIMARS will be almost useless.
        1. +1
          22 June 2017 11: 06
          If the rocket does not fly in the direction of basing your troops, then it will be regarded as an act of aggression. And I answer to the mind in the form of the destruction of the next batch of Caliber and the justification will be
          1. +7
            22 June 2017 13: 40
            Our military advisers can be located in any unit of the Syrian army.

            Quote: Ararat
            And I answer the mind in the form of the destruction of the next batch of calibers

            Caps cast?
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            1. 0
              22 June 2017 20: 46
              Yes, against Syria, not against Russia. You all misunderstood the question and began to ascribe words to me and you yourself began to argue with me about what I did not say. The meaning of the request is that if Russia shot down a US rocket then why the United States will not be able to shoot down a Russian rocket referring to self-defense.
          3. +2
            22 June 2017 19: 38
            Ararat. Well, they’ll price it, they’ll bring down the calibers ...... a full-scale war will begin .... Do you care anyway? Here the question is different, when the exceptional will finally understand that it depends only on them whether they will live or not. So far it seems to me that under the star-striped suicides live.
        2. 0
          22 June 2017 11: 07
          HIMARS does not need UAVs to obtain the coordinates of the target. GMLRS does not care about the presence or absence.
          1. +6
            22 June 2017 13: 41
            Quote: Ararat
            HIMARS does not need UAVs to obtain the coordinates of the target. GMLRS does not care about the presence or absence.

            Psychics in the American army called?
            1. 0
              22 June 2017 20: 38
              There is satellite guidance, there is MTR on the ground, there is aviation in the air. There are tons of ways to transmit 10 digit enemy coordinates to a HIMARS battery. And you don’t have to be psychic
        3. +1
          22 June 2017 13: 13
          Have you ever wondered why not one of the Russian UAVs has been shot down yet?
          1. +3
            22 June 2017 13: 41
            Quote: Rabioso
            Have you ever wondered why not one of the Russian UAVs has been shot down yet?

            Because they can’t.
            1. +2
              22 June 2017 20: 39
              Because they don’t want to. Beat the Syrians one thing and the other in Russia
          2. 0
            22 June 2017 14: 50
            https://www.vz.ru/news/2017/1/25/854932.html
      2. 0
        22 June 2017 13: 01
        Will not be. Protection from aggression will be.
      3. +4
        22 June 2017 19: 16
        Quote: Ararat
        But will not the destruction of American missiles by Russian planes be an act of aggression?

        And the American military contingent located in Syria illegally is not an act of aggression against a sovereign state, by the way, a member of the UN? But the American missiles launched to destroy the armed forces of the legitimate government of Syria or the allies of this state (I repeat - a member of the UN) - is this not an act of aggression? How is it that you, the Americans, have an exclusive and chosen nation, everything is folded in American minds (I don’t even know which word is right here to choose). If you, in alliance with gangsters and international terrorists, overthrow the legitimate government of a country, this is help to freedom fighters. And if you need someone in response Luley hangs - then this is an act of aggression. And you Americans, massively and sincerely believe that it is so and that it is right. Our answer is simple. Our Putin has already told you our answer once: "From the dead o-la (I don’t know why the site doesn’t allow you to write the name of this animal, it's just an animal that Putin officially told the whole world about) ears to you ..."
        1. 0
          22 June 2017 20: 42
          No, I do not argue with everyone about US policy and do not justify the actions of the Pentagon and the CIA. My question is very simple, whether shooting down any object is an act of aggression. Say the Americans shot down North Korean missiles over the Sea of ​​Japan?
          1. +3
            23 June 2017 12: 17
            Quote: Ararat
            No, I do not argue with everyone about US policy and do not justify the actions of the Pentagon and the CIA. My question is very simple, whether shooting down any object is an act of aggression. Say the Americans shot down North Korean missiles over the Sea of ​​Japan?

            Everything should always be considered in relation to this situation. As for the Korean missiles over the Sea of ​​Japan, depending on the situation, this can become aggression, and maybe a defense against aggression. If you look at the destruction of American missiles flying to defeat troops performing the task of protecting the territory of their state, then American missiles are certainly aggression, and their destruction is protection against aggression.
      4. 0
        25 June 2017 16: 48
        Quote: Ararat
        But will not the destruction of American missiles by Russian planes be an act of aggression?

        No, because they should not be there.
    2. 0
      22 June 2017 11: 47
      Yes, I was also not a little surprised.
  3. +12
    22 June 2017 07: 09
    You can guess about anything, but .... we’ll see .... The Americans will never leave Syria for their task, as well as the task of Israel, which is seeking them, to remove Assad and ruin the country into enclaves. All the same, they will achieve their goal - “not by washing in such a way,” especially since the Americans do not care for a while — their resources are simply not comparable with the Russian, Syrian and Iranian ones — they can goof it for a very long time, which Russia cannot afford. Actually, it seems that the Americans chose the strategy of “keeping” Russia in Syria so that it would finally get bogged down, spending its limited funds and resources .....
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      +2
      22 June 2017 07: 12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      and break up the country into enclaves.

      It is already collapsed, thanks Assad
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Actually, it seems that the Americans chose the strategy of “keeping” Russia in Syria so that it would finally bind there, spending its limited funds and resources

      It was initially clear to everyone.
      1. +16
        22 June 2017 07: 35
        Quote: dag
        It is already collapsed, thanks Assad

        Did he support the terrorists who planned to carry out a military coup in Syria?
        1. +31
          22 June 2017 08: 16
          Now our peaceful, good Jewish “friends” will begin to type on the tablet’s keyboard the answer about how the “bloody” and “vicious” Assad began tanks to crush peaceful demonstrations of his people, to type on the clave, and at the same time watching as another Palestinian house is destroyed by armored excavators "terrorist." wink
          1. +1
            22 June 2017 14: 53
            laughing really))
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            +5
            22 June 2017 16: 03
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            tablet answer about how "bloody" and "evil" Assad

            Assad?
            More than Assad, for the security of Israel, few have done.
            Destroy Syria, turning it into enclaves gnawing at each other's throats, with ruined industry and 6 million refugees.
            Only he could.
            Syria before the war was not a significant threat to Israel (except for chemical weapons) - right now, it cannot be even theoretically.
            Thanks to Assad for many years and I wish him success in his hard work.
        2. +2
          22 June 2017 11: 52
          Well no. He simply sometimes supported executions of civilians.
          1. +15
            22 June 2017 13: 43
            Did the terrorists say? Which are "moderate." Are those that capture the hearts of the prisoners in the video? ...
            They will not lie ...
            1. +2
              22 June 2017 19: 26
              Quote: Spade
              Did the terrorists say? Which are "moderate." Are those that capture the hearts of the prisoners in the video? ...
              They will not lie ...

              So they are their best students. They taught them cannibalism. Who should you believe, if not yours?
          2. +3
            22 June 2017 13: 51
            In general, I’m interested in this: they call from Israel to believe and not believe the propaganda of the Muslim Brotherhood at the same time. Believe- if they compose "Tales from Syria" and do not believe if they are "Tales from the Gaza Strip".
            How to understand this? A split personality or conventional double standards?

            Or do you think that "the mugs do not know that the Muslim Brotherhood branch in the Gaza Strip bears the proud name Hamas?"
            1. 0
              22 June 2017 14: 20
              For example, I don’t condemn Assad in this. Everyone is fighting for power as best he can. These are his affairs and his state. But there is no need to actively support Lebanese terrorists. Or Lebanon alone is not enough for him. I completely lost my memory.
              1. +1
                22 June 2017 14: 24
                Quote: Shahno
                But there is no need to actively support Lebanese terrorists

                And he has no special way out ... What Iran gives is what it takes. Including Hezbollah fighters
                1. +3
                  22 June 2017 15: 37
                  Time takes means it shares responsibility for their actions in relation to Israel. For which, in general, it receives from us. Although on the other hand with Assad at least some sort of controlled chaos.
                  1. +9
                    22 June 2017 15: 51
                    Quote: Shahno
                    Time takes means it shares responsibility for their actions in relation to Israel.

                    Is Israel going to share responsibility with the US? Declaring themselves as allies, the Americans create hotbeds of chaos near the borders of Israel: Egypt, then Syria. And the leadership of Israel is silent ...
                    After all, the mess in Syria will still come sideways to your country. Here is the multiple strengthening of Iran’s influence in the region, here is the strengthening of both Hezbollah and Hamas ...
                    And this is strange, another US allies, the Turks, at least try to voice their concerns. Yours are silent, like a fish on ice, recognizing the Americans the right to do anything, even if to the detriment of the interests of Israel.
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                      0
                      22 June 2017 16: 05
                      Quote: Spade
                      After all, the mess in Syria will still come sideways to your country. Here is the multiple strengthening of Iran’s influence in the region, here is the strengthening of both Hezbollah and Hamas ...

                      And Hamas there sideways?
                      Quote: Spade
                      And this is strange, another US allies, the Turks, at least try to voice their concerns. Yours are silent, like a fish on ice, recognizing the Americans the right to do anything, even if to the detriment of the interests of Israel.

                      What do we need?
                      We observe.
                      1. +4
                        22 June 2017 17: 48
                        Quote: dag
                        And Hamas there sideways?

                        Indeed ... Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the very ones that rule the "moderate opposition" that the Americans are training and arming.
                        Quote: dag
                        What do we need?

                        It is truth too. They are not capable of doing anything.
                        Turks understand that trained and equipped Kurds who have gained combat experience are dangerous to them.
                        You also understand that trained and equipped Hamas and Hezbollah militants who have gained combat experience are dangerous to you. But, unlike Turkey, they are forced to remain silent. You have only one role left:
                        Quote: dag
                        We observe.
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      2. 0
        22 June 2017 14: 52
        Thanks to Israel for its collapse, there would be no ISIS, there would be no problems.
        1. 0
          22 June 2017 19: 43
          Quote: drunkram
          Thanks to Israel for its collapse, there would be no ISIS there would be no problem

          Naturally! Israel is the most important terrorist in the whole world!
    2. 0
      22 June 2017 13: 15
      Removing Assad is the task of the Americans and not Israel. This is just contrary to our interests. If you think about it, you’ll understand why, but if you don’t understand then I’ll explain
      1. +5
        22 June 2017 14: 07
        Yeah, explain. wink I'd like to listen to those who muddied all this "bodyagi". bully
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          +1
          22 June 2017 16: 08
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Yeah, explain. I'd like to listen to those who muddied all this "bodyagi".

          Actually (unfortunately) not us.
          maybe if WE, then in my opinion this is aerobatics (I remind you that Israel and Syria are still at war).
          This must be managed, destroyed not just the enemy, but the whole country.
          Without losing a single soldier and practically without a shot.
          1. +3
            22 June 2017 17: 15
            Actually (unfortunately) not us.


            Sorry for the immodesty, but you really d ... ("stupid person") or just pretend to be?
          2. 0
            22 June 2017 19: 56
            Quote: dag
            dag Today, 16:08 ↑ New
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            Yeah, explain. I'd like to listen to those who muddied all this "bodyagi".
            Actually (unfortunately) not us.
            maybe if WE, then in my opinion this is aerobatics (I remind you that Israel and Syria are still at war).
            This must be managed, destroyed not just the enemy, but the whole country.
            Without losing a single soldier and practically without a shot

            I understand correctly, are you the press secretary of the dag?))))))
  4. 0
    22 June 2017 10: 07
    I will express my opinion.
    As an option, if in Deir ez-Zor “suddenly” green men appear (on parachutes), this will help to eliminate a missile strike. Otherwise, the answer will be, for example, at At-Tanf.
    Do not rush to throw eggs, this is just an opinion. I just see everything from the sofa. In general, external players wage war in Syria by the forces of local Aborigines, without touching each other. The exception, of course, is Turkey’s blow to our sovereignty, but there the pipeline was at stake, it was calculated that the Russian Federation would swallow. Therefore, they resolved, and seemed to compensate.
    1. 0
      22 June 2017 13: 11
      little men would regret
      1. 0
        22 June 2017 13: 42
        little men would regret

        Yes, I’m not going to send men there. He simply expressed the opinion that if ours were there, this would minimize the risk of a missile strike.
      2. 0
        23 June 2017 08: 47
        Quote: Walanin
        little men would regret
        - Yeah, you feel sorry for the little green men, and you decided to go the other way - https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2291698.html? laughing Alas, our (I mean Asians) kick out, not the first time wink So it’s a pity for them, it’s not a pity, but there is no alternative to greenbacks, although you can click on Iran, it’s interesting to it, unlike the Central Asian countries, so let it dance.
  5. +2
    22 June 2017 10: 42
    At the moment, such a picture is emerging that all pro-American divisions of the SDS, including the assault backbone of the United States Marine Corps in At-Tanf, are in the "cauldron", surrounded mainly by the Syrian government forces, Hezbollah and the Special Forces Division of the Tiger Force.
    Author - which boiler? is there a desert around and a border with Jordan nearby ?! where do these fighters come from laughing just the clearest example of sofa analytics - even Kasad in his blog looks more adequate, although he is also that sofa strategist! Oh, these "Cadets Biglers")))
  6. +1
    22 June 2017 11: 37
    It gives the name of the Russian Air Force - VKS))) Some Ponte .... VKS of the Russian Federation have not yet shot down a single aircraft and could not prevent the attacks of Amer cruise missiles ..
    1. +6
      22 June 2017 14: 33
      Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
      Delivers the name of the Russian Air Force - VKS))) Some show off ...

      Do you consider your spaceport regularly putting satellites into orbit and 118 spacecraft under the control of "Ponte"?
      Then call what you think "not show off"
      1. 0
        22 June 2017 14: 59
        Why "harness" a horse and a quivering doe to one wagon ????)) The launch site (even 2) does not change anything. Each kind of troops has its own priorities and tactics ..
        1. +5
          22 June 2017 15: 09
          Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
          Why "harness" a horse and a quivering fallow deer to one wagon ????)

          Now connected, then divided. They like to play with our staff structure ...

          Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
          The spaceport (even 2) does not change anything.

          Changes everything. The organization that launches spacecraft, and then controls them throughout the entire life cycle, as well as controls space and is capable of shooting down objects in orbit, has every right to have the word "space" in its name
    2. 0
      25 June 2017 16: 56
      Quote: Torkvat Torkvat
      Delivers the name of the Russian Air Force - VKS))) Some show off ....Russian Aerospace Forces haven’t shot down yet and could not prevent the strike of Amer’s cruise missiles ..

      ISIS has no planes, but if you throw them, then we'll see.
  7. 0
    22 June 2017 11: 40
    But what about the Syrians' armor? They can not be somehow transferred to Deir ez-Zor?
    1. 0
      22 June 2017 15: 11
      "Shells" do not work on ballistic.
  8. +5
    22 June 2017 11: 50
    Quote: dag
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    and break up the country into enclaves.

    It is already collapsed, thanks Assad
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Actually, it seems that the Americans chose the strategy of “keeping” Russia in Syria so that it would finally bind there, spending its limited funds and resources

    It was initially clear to everyone..


    You don’t understand a damn thing. You still have not understood that Russia is in Syria in order to protect Israel from Israel. Clear?
  9. 0
    22 June 2017 13: 10
    Shoot down ballistic missiles with the Mig-31?
    The author needs a bite.
    1. 0
      23 June 2017 17: 20
      Quote: Walanin
      The author needs a bite.


      And you, apparently, need to stop "using up", as soon as thoughts of a snack arise against the background of an elementary lack of understanding of the subject, on which an "ingenious" remark is issued.
  10. +4
    22 June 2017 13: 16
    A worthy asymmetric response to the deployment of the HIMARS MLRS in At-Tanfa could be the deployment of a pair of S-400 Triumph divisions 40 km southeast of Palmyra. Such an arrangement would make it possible to intercept ATACMS operational-tactical ballistic missiles with the help of SAM 48N6D at the launch site. The Triumph could also capture small-sized URS XM30 GUMLRS, which can be triggered by HIMARS calculations for CAA units operating north of At-Tanf.


    yes, of course .. but it’s better to wait for the two armored divisions of the Armat. two regiments of the T-50, and the S-500 .. that’s for sure .. and then all of a sudden. ??
    1. 0
      22 June 2017 15: 02
      While the Americans and their comrades will fearlessly fly there, so everything will be there)))
  11. 0
    22 June 2017 15: 12
    Here either to say: in a war as in a war, or quietly get out ... how they got out of Afghanistan ...!
  12. +1
    22 June 2017 15: 42
    HOW THE YANKS MUCHED ABOUT US, SO WILL BE MUCHED! Who will give the order for destruction? No one! And the reason is not in the war with the Americans, but in the "green" that our people placed in Western banks and offshore companies. In addition, all the heirs of our "respected" senators and deputies are abroad. Well, what kind of war can we talk about? So let us swallow what they put to us ...
  13. 0
    22 June 2017 16: 05
    Nobody canceled the breakdowns from the actions of the cutthroats from the GRU special forces, but it will be impossible to determine who stabbed the tire with a knife or justified the need for a fuel tank. Likewise with dragging the C-400 to the front line, ISIS is garbage, but you’ll be worn away from any “deltas”.
    1. 0
      22 June 2017 16: 34
      Here you are right. Although Matkal’s experience is richer in this matter. But we will not help them in this. So put on health.
      1. 0
        22 June 2017 18: 51
        Quote: Shahno
        But we will not help them in this. So put on health.

        Well, we don’t really need it very much - the characteristics of these Russian air defense systems are thoroughly known to the Israelis, unless so, put in a museum to replenish the exhibition ... wink
      2. 0
        22 June 2017 21: 29
        Although Matkal’s experience is richer in this matter
        -------------------------------------------------

        Damn, here I am! I'm on a pencil near calico ... when I was in Israel I rented a car ... I got away from the car ... I’m returning a punctured tire
  14. 0
    22 June 2017 19: 10
    Thank! Competent and convincing analytics.
    Stop dancing polites already!
  15. 0
    23 June 2017 17: 04
    A general offensive must be launched from the territory of Iran through Iraq to Syria. The place of Russian bases in Syria is now very unfavorable. They must be supplied through the seas under the control of the NATO fleets and they are located in the radius of the artillery from the territory of Turkey (NATO member).
  16. 0
    23 June 2017 23: 17
    Quote: siberalt
    If the United States, unashamedly, is helping arms to all groups in Syria, then why can't we do the same for self-proclaimed republics outside Ukraine?

    The idea ... is long overdue! These are "double standards." Already stuck in your teeth ...
  17. 0
    24 June 2017 19: 40
    And Vaska listens and eats. The territory of the American ISIS is decreasing. I hope by the end of the year Syria will be sterile from ISIS and the Americans. And then you can take on the Ruin.
  18. +1
    24 June 2017 21: 23
    It was impossible to imagine what was happening now, because from the initial stage of the Syrian company, Russia had all the advantages. The USA, Europe, the Arab countries were deeply at a loss, and they could not do anything. It turned out to be impossible for them at that time. The Kremlin was touched by applause, compliments addressed to it, but the coalition didn’t sit with hands clasped ... Result: 1. initiative was lost; 2. There is absolutely no strategy, tactics; 3. found himself at the tail of current events and responds only situationally and, unfortunately, not always productively. "Concerns" now cause only an involuntary sarcastic laugh. And one cannot justify oneself by the fact that 1. the forces of the Syrian army were weaker than they thought (this should have been known in advance); 2. "Russia will defend only its bases by only bombing the IS." From the very beginning it was known, even by little knowledge, that the war in Syria was a major geostrategic, geopolitical struggle, during which the Kremlin had already missed a lot and the future was clearly not even visible. It seems that the Kremlin now follows the proverb "Where to take it." Unfortunately. This is not a panicky word, but factology. Is it a shame? Yes. Bitterly? Yes.

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