Russia and Belarus signed a contract for the supply of Su-30SM

Belarus signed a contract with Russia to buy Su-30CM fighter jets, reports TASS a message from the Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Dmitry Shugaev.

The contract for the delivery of the party Su-30CM concluded. Its implementation will go in stages, in accordance with the established deadlines, said Shugaev at the Le Bourget air show.

The number of machines purchased is not reported.

Earlier, Major-General Oleg Dvigalev, commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Belarus, told the agency that the republic could buy from Russia a batch of Yak-130 combat-training aircraft in addition to eight previously delivered vehicles, and also told about intentions to buy Su-30CM fighters.

The super-maneuverable Su-30CM fighter of the 4 + generation is equipped with a radar with a phased antenna array, thrust vector-controlled engines and front horizontal tail. The machine is capable of applying modern and advanced high-precision air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. Also, the aircraft can be used to train pilots of promising multifunctional fighters.

Comments

[210ox]

And this is certainly true ... Whatever they say on the "Regnum" or "Rain" ..

[DEPARTMENT]

The number of machines purchased is not reported.

I really like this ...! So we will fly AND HOOL TOGETHER!

[Vladimir 38]

Very good news, for money, and not as a gift, as usual. Well, or at least potatoes))

[just exp]

where did they get the money?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: just explo

where did they get the money?

From the budget of Russia

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Vladimir 38

Very good news, for money, and not as a gift, as usual. Well, or at least potatoes))

If we take into account that the RB removed from service the Su-27 that it had, then the rogue people have no money not only for the purchase of aircraft, but also for their operation and maintenance ...
From a military point of view, the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Belarus do not need heavy fighters (where will they fly on them?), The MiG-29 is quite enough, the territory of the Republic of Belarus is small, and the aircraft purchased are expensive ....
Apparently the Russian Federation agreed with the Republic of Belarus and its oppositions, instead of the air base, we will give away the gift of Su-30 and most likely we will pay for their operation ....
Of course, the regiment will not be handed over to the RB, but they will deliver the 12 Su-30 ...
I would have replaced the free Su-30 from the Russian Federation at the place of the Old Man, would have drunk the Su-27 stored (it can be in the same Ukraine), maybe then in Moscow they’ll start thinking ....

[Vladimir16]

Quote: DOCTOR ZLO

I would be in place of "Old Man"

With such reasoning, you will never be in the place of the Old Man.
As they say: - who studied what

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Vladimir16

Quote: DOCTOR ZLO

I would be in place of "Old Man"

With such reasoning, you will never be in the place of the Old Man.

God forbid, to be hanged on a lamppost under the cries of the opposition whose leaders have dual citizenship or be spread out with your family, like Ceausescu people who then led the country into poverty as part of the EU ...

As they say: - who studied what

They don’t study this, it’s enough to be a Belarusian or a Ukrainian and swear on the eternal friendship of Russians with cobblestones in their bosoms ...

[Astoria]

Well, Old Man studied as an agronomist (sorry Wikipedia speaks of an economist-organizer of agricultural production) and for more than 20 collective farms the "bright way" has been looking for a way out.

Even China does not invest there - for the most part these are related loans. If China does not invest, it says a lot.

[vasek5533]

Apparently the Russian Federation agreed with the Republic of Belarus and its oppositions, instead of the air base, we will give away the gift of Su-30 and most likely we will pay for their operation ....
Apparently ... most likely ... well, write directly that I don’t know ... but I’ll tell everyone how it will be. From a military point of view .... Who are you that you know ... it's funny to read.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

vasek5533 Today, 07: 22 ↑ New
Apparently the Russian Federation agreed with the Republic of Belarus and its oppositions, instead of the air base, we will give away the gift of Su-30 and most likely we will pay for their operation ....
Apparently ... most likely ... well, write directly that I don’t know ... but I’ll tell everyone how it will be. From a military point of view .... Who are you that you know ... it's funny to read.

I AM A CITIZEN OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND FORUMAN ON THE SITE OF THE RUSSIAN SITE.
It’s ridiculous to read not to read who makes you sick, wrote yesterday how you wrote something against squandering Russian money, so jackals fly ... as I foresaw ....

[Ustin]

Belarus calculates very correctly and without disruption, so do not mislead the people.

[Vlad.by]

You specify what the calculation correctly produces.
I assume that the regiment will be “sold”, along with pilots and airfield services.
Airbase rental? No, the sale of equipment.
The same eggs, only a side view.

[alexhol]

I agree. Old Man, as always, cheated: both the girls are safe and the guys are happy.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: alexhol

I agree. Old Man, as always, cheated: both the girls are safe and the guys are happy.

The main thing is not to outwit, otherwise the guys will come because of the EU / USA and the girls will be unhappy, and the “Old Man” will be whole east of Smolensk ...

[tiredwithall]

Quote: 210ox

And this is certainly true ... Whatever they say on the "Regnum" or "Rain" ..

And what can they say, good or sensible, on these info-bins?

[Zibelew]

Belarus is the only state on the part of Europe that does not pursue an open Russophobic policy.

[Victor N]

Compare Regnum with Rain - like a cat with a mongrel. Do not offend the Regnum, this is an edition of the Russian World. If you don’t like criticism of Lukashenko, walk by.

[Thrall]

Quote: Victor N

If you do not like criticism of Lukashenko - walk by

It is advisable under the windows of the Belarusian KGB, like hohlushki from Femen

[210ox]

Regnum-Russian world? Do not tell my slippers. They have the banal provocateurs under the concept of "Russian world".

Quote: Victor N

Compare Regnum with Rain - like a cat with a mongrel. Do not offend the Regnum, this is an edition of the Russian World. If you don’t like criticism of Lukashenko, walk by.

[tiredwithall]

Here they are and protect him in. Here they are also unmeasured.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: tiredwithall

Here they are and protect him in. Here they are also unmeasured.

Nemeren all Russia! We will tear all for Old Man! The Urals are exactly for Belarus!

[Teberii]

We will change planes to the bulb at world prices.

[210ox]

When in Malaysia they changed palm oil, nobody said ... Everyone applauded.

Quote: Teberii

We will change planes to the bulb at world prices.

[BABA SHURA]

Or maybe these Russian planes will serve ours too? So that they do not open their mouths they said about the purchase ... But what?

[Charond]

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

[Thrall]

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

Have you tried to read the article?

[Charond]

Have you tried to think with your head? Useful activity, start before it's too late! It is better to arm your army than a stranger, and then ask for favors from Luke. And what will they buy if Luka regularly freelance loans in Russia begs ?! This is not a sale, it is again gifts to foreigners from GDP to the detriment of the Russian Federation!

[Thrall]

Quote: Charond

and then ask for favors from Luke

can be more?

[Charond]

For God's sake. Your Luke has not recognized Crimea as a part of the Russian Federation so far and his country is cooperating with Ukraine, including in the military sphere.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Thrall

Quote: Charond

and then ask for favors from Luke

can be more?

He Charond Meant, the supply of automotive equipment, fuels and lubricants to the APU ...
Will God punish this country for tricks on the inhabitants of Donbass, or does Old Man think that high-rise buildings in Minsk burn worse than in Donetsk?

[Odysseus]

Quote: DOCTOR ZLO

Will God punish this country for tricks on the inhabitants of Donbass, or does Old Man think that high-rise buildings in Minsk burn worse than in Donetsk?

Are you, dear, out of your mind? We are in a single Union State, the Republic of Belarus is our main and last ally in the western direction.
As for the "high-rise buildings", this is not the leadership of Belarus promised to stand behind the inhabitants of Donbass, not the leadership of Belarus talked about the Kiev junta, and then recognized it as the legal government and partners. Not the main bank of Belarus does not work in Crimea, because of sanctions, etc. .d.
So "What is considered to work for the gossips, Isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather?"

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Odyssey Today, 16: 46 ↑
Are you, dear, out of your mind?

Sane...

We are in a single Union State

Well, maybe the Old Man personally and citizens who do not work outside the Republic of Belarus are located, but the citizens of the Russian Federation are definitely not ...
I personally don’t feel it myself, that there is one, that there is no one devil ....
I know there is a Union State budget for 2017:

4 872 000,0 thousand Russian rubles, including Russian Federation in the amount of 3 167 000,0 thousand Russian rubles, The Republic of Belarus in the amount of 1 705 000,0 thousand Russian rubles

http://www.soyuz.by/about/docs/UnionStatefinance/
There is no common currency, as Belarus wants to have a printing press, but the Russian Federation against.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%8E%
D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%
D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE#.D0.95.
D0.B4.D0.B8.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.8F_.D0.B2.D0.B0.D0.BB.
D1.8E.D1.82.D0.B0
The judicial system is not formed, see ibid.
There are no common aircraft; they are not even provided for by the contract.
There are controls (with the search for parasites, there have never been problems) ....
This union state has no joint geopolitical projects with - CIS, EAC, SCO, BRICS ...
In short, I personally do not see any prospects for this “sharaga”, the money allocated by the Russian Federation to the budget of the Union State could be used for other purposes within the framework of the EAC or the SCO, the Union State is a “draft” before the creation of the EAC .... and myself it has already exhausted ....

The Republic of Belarus is our main and last ally in the western direction.

I agree, it’s easier to write the only ally, but the EU of today and the 90's are two different associations, the EU now does not have a single cent on Belarus, so the right way to say: “Belarus is the only ally in Eastern Europe and is valuable for the Russian Federation only as a buffer zone between NATO and the Russian Federation, because in the field of economics, politics and defense from the Republic of Belarus “like a goat’s milk.” For the Republic of Belarus, the former is the guarantor of the existence of the Republic of Belarus, in its current borders, and a creditor with a permanent open credit line, as well as a source of cheap energy, V and VT "....
It is more profitable for the Russian Federation to give loans to Belarus periodically than to have another subsidized region in its composition .....

As for the "high-rise buildings", this is not the leadership of Belarus promised to stand behind the inhabitants of Donbass, not the leadership of Belarus talked about the Kiev junta, and then recognized it as the legal government and partners.

RB supplying fuels and lubricants (obtained by the way from cheap Russian oil), В and ВТ (Produced at enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the Republic of Belarus and existing thanks to orders under the RF GPV) .....
Well, the Russian Federation does not take offense at the Republic of Belarus, in the end, no one canceled the opposition of the Republic of Belarus, local Natsiks and Catholics of Western Belarus.
I think there will be nothing wrong if, after 10 years, the Republic of Belarus will become part of the Russian Federation, without the Brest and Grodno regions .... then we’ll talk with you about deliveries of B and VT RB to the Armed Forces of Ukraine ....

[Charond]

Yes, there will be no union state, and in fact it does not exist. There is a foreign state that sucks money from Russia and pursues a policy independent of Russia, and often anti-Russian. I won’t be surprised if we soon see the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus and Moscow doesn’t change it with any money ... Ukraine was given 3 mld and received in gratitude what they received, Russophobic Maidan ...

[Charond]

This leadership of Belarus has signed an agreement on cooperation in the military sphere with Ukraine; this leadership of Belarus does not recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. These are not allies for Russia .... Like Kyrgyzstan, which feeds GDP at the expense and expense of the Russian Federation ...

[Russian Moldavian]

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

Is Belarus a stranger?

[figwam]

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

For free?

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

For free?

Yes. Between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus only one type of loan agreement is concluded (which has no analogues in any of the existing legal systems) - gratuitous, interest-free, irrevocable ....

[Victor N]

Alas, more and more - the state, not the people.

[Charond]

Yes, a stranger, this is a foreign country not part of the Russian Federation. Learn geography!

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Russian Moldovans

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

Is Belarus a stranger?

Native?

[210ox]

Have you read the article? Or does the word "Belarus" immediately begin diarrhea?

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

That's right, it would be better if the Turks were given a loan ...

[DenZ]

It would be better to read an article, read a story, think and then just write. It would have come out much better.

[210ox]

Charonda reads only the headlines .. The rest is emotions and provocation.

Quote: DenZ

It would be better to read an article, read a story, think and then just write. It would have come out much better.

[Charond]

You should read the story like you do and think with your head, and not with what you are used to. The history with Ukraine neither you nor Moscow taught anything. Again they decided to feed and arm the foreigners at the expense of Russia and to the detriment of it. Well, let's see how they will arrange an anti-Russian Maidan under red-white flags and how you will sing then. You would have to repent for the money that you spent on Bandera’s people .... The three billion that Bandera’s eaten today would be very useful to Russia itself ...

[tiredwithall]

Quote: Charond

It would be better to transfer these planes to the Russian Aerospace Forces, rather than equipping foreign countries for free, to the detriment of the Russian Federation

Here on the VO website on 15.06 they reported that the Russian Ministry of Defense was not able to fully load the country's defense industry in the coming years https://topwar.ru/118118-minoborony-ne-smozhet-po
lnostyu-zagruzit-predpriyatiya-opk-v-period-2018-
2025-godov.html. But you, obviously, are working on the direction of squabbles and contention of our peoples.

[Ustin]

Most likely you are right. The site has become "smaller". Specialists who were regularly celebrated here a couple of years ago seem to have left him. Here they write all heresy.

[Astoria]

+ If the Republic of Belarus could pay, even if not in dollars, Russian rubles are enough - it’s not a pity to sell a hundred. Fuel and lubricants to Ukraine are probably not sold for hryvnias - well, so buy planes.

+ Tales about discord, kisses and joint trenches leave for internal use.

[garnik]

It is necessary to sell, give, give to your strategic partners. In exchange for preferences in the economy of these countries. In the end, Russia needs allies, except for three components .... See how the United States acts, strengthening its position in countries where they provide military assistance.
It would be nice to hear that Belarusians, Armenians, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, and Tajiks are fighting shoulder to shoulder against obscurantists.

[Astoria]

Well, only MAZ with 15000 poor fellows to pick up.
It's nice to hear - but it's fantastic, they’re fighting not for the USA, but for US dollars. Feel the difference.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

garnik Today, 17: 34 ↑
It is necessary to sell, give, give to your strategic partners. In exchange for preferences in the economy of these countries.

Can I clarify about the preferences of Russian business in Belarus?

Russia needs allies

And who told you that the Russian Federation should have exclusively rogue allies, or does it have such karma in your opinion, give all the freaks a loan and ignore spitting in your back?
The US has only rich countries in its allies, and the poor, but more rich, do you propose giving money to all the poor people, only because the USA is an enemy for them, can try to make friends with the rich?

[garnik]

Quote: DOCTOR ZLO

Can I clarify about the preferences of Russian business in Belarus?

Yes, unfortunately, Russia has nothing to offer Belarus, except for energy and military equipment. Advanced technologies in the West, whether we want it or not, but it is. And all that we could manufacture, we import from China under the Russian brand.
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The US has only rich countries in its allies, and the poor, but more rich, do you propose giving money to all the poor people, only because the USA is an enemy for them, can try to make friends with the rich?
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Without natural resources, things in Russia will be at the level of Ukraine and worse than in Belarus, unfortunately.

[Charond]

And what can Belarus offer Russia, besides the grinning face of Luke from the TV screens ?! They did not provide a military base in Belarus, Russia did not recognize Crimea as part of Russia, they signed an agreement on military-technical cooperation with Ukraine ... Do you seriously consider them allies of Russia ?! Do not tell me ...

[DOCTOR ZLO]

garnik Today, 19: 18 ↑
Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
Can I clarify about the preferences of Russian business in Belarus?
Yes, unfortunately, Russia has nothing to offer Belarus, except for energy and military equipment. Advanced technologies in the West, whether we want it or not, but it is. And all that we could manufacture, we import from China under the Russian brand.

But who is stopping the "orphans" from Belarus from getting these technologies from the EU and the USA? The Republic of Belarus has always been the assembly line of the USSR, there have never been closed-cycle enterprises there .... everything that produces, except for itself and the CIS countries do not need anyone ...

Without natural resources, things in Russia will be at the level of Ukraine and worse than in Belarus, unfortunately.

Here we are, we’ll give the last shirt back, you will propose exchanging the EAC and the CSTO for the EU and NATO, you’ll get rid of it ... there’s no fools there to create competitors for yourself, here you’ll set up nuclear waste repositories, refugee camps, and enterprises with harmful production it please ...

[Astoria]

Mister patriot of the Republic of Belarus - 90% of the export of the Republic of Belarus is the Russian Federation, the export of which the Russian Federation needs less and less every year and which no one needs in the big account except the Russian Federation , 1 million citizens of Belarus are farm laborers in the Russian Federation. Without the Russian market - RB, this is DPRK squared.

Lord, your thoughts on natural resources are simply ridiculous - oil refining in Belarus accounts for 13% of industry and 17% of exports, and at the same time it is unprofitable

Without natural resources, the Gulf countries, Norway, Brazil, Australia, Canada, Chile and many others will go no better than the Republic of Belarus - however, even thanks to the annual subsidies of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus goes through one place apparently it’s karma and the requested good doesn’t work for the future.

[alexleony]

Would you spit in the snout, doctor. So to say, to the gentleman of the proletariat.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: alexleony

Would you spit in the snout, doctor. So to say, to the gentleman of the proletariat.

Give it a try. Then you don’t recognize your snout.

[alexleony]

In the best of times, provocateurs were hung on poles, at the wrong time you were born, doctor, not to show off to you with a sign on your neck, but to smell small in the comments.

[Astoria]

Quote: alexleony

In the best of times, provocateurs were hung on poles, at the wrong time you were born, doctor, not to show off to you with a sign on your neck, but to smell small in the comments.

Well, in Sparta, people with disabilities were disposed of at birth

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: alexleony

In the best of times, provocateurs were hung on poles, at the wrong time you were born, doctor, not to show off to you with a sign on your neck, but to smell small in the comments.

Yes, you have a better chance of being uprooted by the opposition of the Republic of Belarus on a lamppost with a sign (s) than I have at the hands of the Russian opposition ...
I have noticed for a long time that if on this site you negatively comment on the next irrevocable, gratuitous and interest-free loan of the Republic of Belarus, the jackals immediately fly into the provocateurs and write down whether you see me sorry for the people of the Russian Federation ...

[lis-ik]

It is strange, because there was a decision of the Republic of Belarus to abandon the SU, because road maintenance and the territory is too small for these machines.

[Smoked]

Can’t Belarusian students go to our universities with this money? Any programs there for promoting the Russian language, etc.? The sense of these aircraft if they grow a generation oriented to the west?

[pvv113]

There are no problems with the Russian language in Belarus. He is a state

[Charond]

But there are problems with Russophobia, and the Russian language in Bandera Lviv is well aware that it does not prevent them from being Bandera

[pvv113]

With Russophobia, there is enough shit everywhere, even in Russia. Take the same Rain

[Charond]

So it is not necessary to feed foreigners at the expense and to the detriment of Russia, especially patients with Russophobia, and to arm such crimes and state treason

[tchoni]

If only they did not resell Khokhlov)

[tolyasik0577]

About 2 years ago they wrote here that the Republic of Belarus does not lift the Su-27 into the sky, since it is very expensive. And now they are talking about acquiring the brand new Su-30 SM. "Where did the money come from, Zin?" Or again, as with Kyrgyzstan, forgive ....? But .... glad for Belarus.

[Tusv]

Quote: tolyasik0577

About 2 years ago they wrote here that the Republic of Belarus does not lift the Su-27 into the sky, since it is very expensive. And now they are talking about acquiring the brand new Su-30 SM.

Semen Semenych. Tractors for Sarmatians sold. Have the right and have fun
And so Bulbashy never sold us. After the collapse of the USSR, everyone began to demolish early warning stations, to evict all Russians. This is after Kazakhstan joined, after persistent requests for GDP
Aizers, by the way, clung to the Union for a long time. But Alas, Borya is Yeltsin, especially not God’s brains

[Charond]

Have you forgotten the agreement on military-technical cooperation between Belarus and Ukraine ?! But Belarus’s recognition of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation was forgotten ?! And they forgot to refuse to provide an airfield for the military base of the Russian Federation ?! And what good does the Russian Federation have from Belarus ?!

[Hermann]

The news is good, but they will probably take it on credit, I assume that they bought the Yak-130 but the Belarusian budget will not pull the purchase of the su-30cm.

[tomket]

And why do they need the Su-30 SM? Not too redundant for Belarus then? It would have cost MiGs.

[Odysseus]

Quote: tomket

And why do they need the Su-30 SM? Not too redundant for Belarus then? It would have cost MiGs.

Which ones? The SMT for the future is completely outdated, we don’t have 35s and production capacities will not allow us to quickly establish production in Russia and Belarus.
There wasn’t much to choose from.

[Odysseus]

Great news. The sky of the Union State needs reliable protection.

[Astoria]

Yeah - right out of our joys we jump out of our pants, we don’t have money to fly the Su-27 into the air, and give them the Su-30.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Astoria

Yeah - right out of the pants we jump out of pants, we don’t have money to fly the Su-27 into the air, and give them the Su-30

And what's the problem ? The Su-27 was running out of resources there, it is not practical to repair old planes. They are buying the Su-30 at the same prices as the Russian Ministry of Defense. We are in the Union State. We need to cover the western direction.
By the way, even Kazakhstan with which we do not have such a degree of integration, we sell Su-30 at domestic prices.

[Astoria]

You about Thomas, you about Yaroma. The problem is the lack of money in Belarus

[Odysseus]

Quote: Astoria

The problem is the lack of money in Belarus

The problem is your complete ignorance of the topic that you are trying to compensate for idiotic emoticons.
There is close cooperation between Russia and Belarus in the field of military-technical cooperation. There are many agreements, cooperation between different enterprises, we have no problems with various contracts. Belarus pays for some of the money, some for barter for military equipment delivered to the Russian Federation. the old equipment being written off in Russia, but still generally able to serve, for example, the S-300PS.
The Su-30 doesn’t go through this box, it will be paid. How much money will go there by barter is not yet possible to say. Airplanes are needed to protect the western border, because the MiG-29 of the Belarusian Air Force (Soviet-built) will soon run out of resources.

[Charond]

They will still judge your company, for gifts to the Kizgizia, Uzbekistan and others, to the detriment of Russia and its army ... Your knowledge of yourself in Ukraine has already shown and you are again on the same rake .. with tales of supposedly allies and brothers

[Odysseus]

Quote: Charond

Your company will still be judged for gifts to Kizgizia, Uzbekistan and others, to the detriment of Russia and its army ... Your knowledge of yourself in Ukraine has already shown and you are again on the same rake .. with tales of supposedly allies and brothers

Which "company"? The oligarchic authorities of the Russian Federation are not a company for me. Where does Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan do when the sale of the Su-30 is discussed? It seems to me you are not quite healthy. However, since you formally seemingly oppose market reforms in our country, in your case I will show patience and conduct educational program (eradication of illiteracy)
1) The Maidan in Ukraine did not happen because we helped Ukraine, but because we did absolutely nothing there. More precisely, officials and oligarchs did business, and this was the policy in Ukraine.
Within the framework of globalized capitalism, Russia as a whole is not able to confront the United States, but Russia also did nothing separately and specifically to confront the United States in the Ukrainian direction (although we already had enough resources of influence there) .U.S. oligarchic groups, media and government officials. As a result, ultimately, they gained full control over Ukraine.
2) Under capitalism, no one makes any gifts to anyone, what you think are “gifts” are elements of big business.
Exceptions to relations with the “overlord”, that is, with the West, here the oligarchic authorities of the Russian Federation really make “gifts.” But these “gifts” are simply part of the overall capital system where capital from the periphery goes to the center.
3) Now the Russian authorities come into conflict with the West: the essence of this conflict is that they recognize the West as their overlord, but are not ready to give up power (like Yanukovych or Shevarnadze) and want to leave themselves a minimal regional zone of influence. In particular, Belarus.
Accordingly, the West is preparing Maidan there in an effort to turn Belarus into a second Ukraine, our task is to prevent it. Notice how weak the capitalist RF is, it does not fight for influence in Germany, and especially in Canada, it lost even Ukraine .
Now you come and say, you don’t need to cooperate with Belarus, Lukashenko is bad and two-faced, you don’t need to help them, you don’t need to do anything at all.
What will be the outcome of such a degenerative policy? The United States will thank us very much and will gladly begin to fight against Lukashenko unhindered (by investing there, saying that Belarus is their strategic ally, offering various preferences if they throw off the "last dictator of Europe", well, etc.) at the end ends, of course, win.
It is you who are proposing to repeat the Ukrainian experience in its purest form. That you are offering it directly to work in the USA. You are the "State Department agent" (and it’s free and does not understand anything) in its purest form.

[Charond]

And who called you to independent Ukraine, so that you would do something there ?! The same Yanukovych did what he wanted, spoke about the oldest constitution in the World of Ukraine, which is based on the Orlik constitution. Remind you who Orlik is ?! This is a self-proclaimed hetman who was Mazepa’s clerk. And people like you, gave out and wishful thinking. You then shouted that Yanukovych is pro-Russian and you are doing everything wisely there. I don’t like to bet, but Luka is no better than Yanukovych. He openly supplies Bandera gangs with fuel and lubricants and equipment, even forbade St. George’s tape, throws fighters in the Donbas against Bandera, throws him into jail, Crimea did not recognize part of the Russian Federation, did not provide the Russian base. Luke of Russia is not an ally. The error of the USSR was that instead of developing the RSFSR in the USSR, patients with Russophobia developed the republic. If the RSFSR lived richer than any subsidized Estonia, then they would be drawn to it, and so they started saying that they feed Russia . Now you are feeding the republics of the former USSR at the expense and to the detriment of Russia, slowing down its development and interfering with its well-being, and you think that it is someone there in Kyrgyzstan who will appreciate and say thanks ?! Yes, it won’t be like that, it will be like with the USSR, they will lift their nose and look even more from high at the RF, ignoring its interests.

[Astoria]

Which "company"? The oligarchic authorities of the Russian Federation are not a company for me. Where does Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan do when the sale of the Su-30 is discussed? It seems to me you are not quite healthy. However, since you formally seemingly oppose market reforms in our country, in your case I will show patience and conduct educational program (eradication of illiteracy)
1) The Maidan in Ukraine did not happen because we helped Ukraine, but because we did absolutely nothing there. More precisely, officials and oligarchs did business, and this was the policy in Ukraine.
Within the framework of globalized capitalism, Russia as a whole is not able to confront the United States, but Russia also did nothing separately and specifically to confront the United States in the Ukrainian direction (although we already had enough resources of influence there) .U.S. oligarchic groups, media and government officials. As a result, ultimately, they gained full control over Ukraine.
2) Under capitalism, no one makes any gifts to anyone, what you think are “gifts” are elements of big business.
Exceptions to relations with the “overlord”, that is, with the West, here the oligarchic authorities of the Russian Federation really make “gifts.” But these “gifts” are simply part of the overall capital system where capital from the periphery goes to the center.
3) Now the Russian authorities come into conflict with the West: the essence of this conflict is that they recognize the West as their overlord, but are not ready to give up power (like Yanukovych or Shevarnadze) and want to leave themselves a minimal regional zone of influence. In particular, Belarus.
Accordingly, the West is preparing Maidan there in an effort to turn Belarus into a second Ukraine, our task is to prevent it. Notice how weak the capitalist RF is, it does not fight for influence in Germany, and even more so in Canada, it even lost Ukraine.
Now you come and say, you don’t need to cooperate with Belarus, Lukashenko is bad and two-faced, you don’t need to help them, you don’t need to do anything at all.
What will be the outcome of such a degenerative policy? The United States will thank us very much and will gladly begin to fight against Lukashenko unhindered (by investing there, saying that Belarus is their strategic ally, offering various preferences if they throw off the "last dictator of Europe", well, etc.) at the end ends, of course, win.
It is you who are proposing to repeat the Ukrainian experience in its purest form. That you are offering it directly to work in the USA. You are the "State Department agent" (and it’s free and does not understand anything) in its purest form.

Brevity is the sister of talent, but this is not about you:

1) The policy towards the CIS countries is inconsistent, this is not a stick-to-carrot policy, but a push-and-pull policy, an economically harmful policy for Russia

2) RB is an economic black hole - an inefficient and cross-subsidized economy, the more loans, the greater the likelihood of default, and with it the Maidan.

3) Even China, which US you are talking about, does not want to invest in Lukashenko. This is nonsense.

4) Ukraine was lost by Yanukovosch - according to your logic, it was necessary to give him a loan of not three billion - but thirty-three.

[Astoria]

I know one simple thing and I want you to know it too, the Republic of Belarus has a debt of 40 billion dollars, a budget of 15, gold and foreign exchange reserves of 5, interest payments for 16 year of 3 billion, which is almost 20% of the budget.

In fact, this regime without financial support is a bankrupt regime, as is the regime of Nicolas Maduro (well, he even has oil). So, kindly - memorize the financial part, increase the debt burden of the Lukashenko regime - this only increases the likelihood of default, and with it the probability of the collapse of his regime.

12 aircraft worth $ 300 million will not protect anyone, and if it is necessary to support the military-industrial complex, then I won’t believe that there are no solvent buyers in the world who would refuse to buy 12 Su-30s at domestic prices.

What kind of barter are you talking about - to dump here MTZs standing in warehouses for years

Look at things realistically, and not through the prism of agreements (promises), kisses, fables about joint trenches, etc. He was offered a military base - refused, so the question should be closed.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Astoria Yesterday, 21: 52 ↑
I know one simple thing and I want you to know it too, the Republic of Belarus has a debt of 40 billion dollars, a budget of 15, gold and foreign exchange reserves of 5, interest payments for 16 year of 3 billion, which is almost 20% of the budget.

In fact, this regime without monetary support is a bankrupt regime

I will not believe that in the world there are no solvent buyers who would refuse to buy 12 Su-30 at domestic prices

RB is an economic black hole - an inefficient and cross-subsidized economy, the more loans, the greater the likelihood of default, and with it the Maidan.
Even China, which US you are talking about, does not want to invest in Lukashenko. That's nonsense.

I completely agree with your theses, but you can’t prove this to the patriots and communists, they live in a different world ....
The Republic of Belarus deserved future problems from the moment when Shushkevich signed the Bialowieza Agreement ...., at the time of their signing, only BNE, understood that the RSFSR got rid of parasites, and now we are issuing loans to the CIS countries and destroy all the conquests of BNE ... by hanging again under the conditions of sanctions, the same parasites took their neck, only under the Union, these parasites at least deducted money to the general budget, and now there is none, it turns out that the Russian Federation is now in more unfavorable conditions than the RSFSR ...

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Odyssey

[They buy Su-30 at the same prices as the Russian Ministry of Defense. We are in the Union State. We need to cover the western direction.
By the way, even Kazakhstan with which we do not have such a degree of integration, we sell Su-30 at domestic prices.

We sell weapons at domestic prices in the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Republic of Belarus because they are located in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, learn the materiel ...

[DOCTOR ZLO]

"You can’t forbid rich life, said" spirit "and stole a carrot from" grandfather "....

[Prjanik]

There were raids on Father’s for talking about the deployment of our troops, including aircraft. So it is possible that they are really “sold” together with our pilots and serviced for basing at Belarusian airfields.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

They are given free of charge, but supposedly for a fee on a previously issued loan to the Russian Federation, at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, as well as for all CSTO countries. There will be no our pilots there, there will be free maintenance of the aircraft, at a loss to Irkut, and, accordingly, its employees.
Given that the defense order will decline, some air regiments in the Russian Federation will not wait for Su-30, because they were delivered to Belarus, and some workers in Irkut will be reduced ...

[Prjanik]

The Collective Security Treaty Organization is our brainchild, so I don’t see anything strange that we support our allies, so the United States as part of NATO carries the main burden and costs.
Further, if our defense order for SUSHKI is reduced, then on the contrary, Irkut is provided with Belarusian orders, and workers are paid. Even if there will be another loan, this is a common situation, but why do you think that Belarusians themselves will not cope with the service?

[Charond]

A loan is what they give back, with interest, and GDP again decided to donate our planes to a foreign country, and their maintenance will be put at a plant that will have to work for nothing, for itself and, above all, for workers, at a loss, because the managers of the GDP deal with the division of salaries will not deprive

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: Prjanik

why do you think that Belarusians themselves will not cope with the service?

Because the Republic of Belarus wrote off its Su-27 and Su-24, just because of this ...

[Atlant-1164]

Air Force base no .. to airplanes- YES.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

We were always lucky with the "friends", only Kyrgyzstan was left (after the cancellation of the Russian Federation to her all the debt that was announced today) from Kant of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...

[without reverse]

ah Old Man clever .. squeezed the squadron from the Oligarchate.

[Charond]

Do not worry about the oligarchs. In our city, housing and communal services tariffs are raised again, already from the beginning of next month, so the people of Russia, and not the oligarchs, will have to pay for the gifts to the Kirghizia and Belarusians.

[suhov17]

You read the comments of the fifth column and are convinced again, except for oral masturbation, they are not capable of anything. And on the account of the Old Man and the lackeys, since Belarus and Kazakhstan received only BUSH S-300s for free, nobody just buys them anyway and Belarus always pays for other weapons, only at a discount, because according to the CSTO agreement, the participating countries trade arms among themselves at domestic prices and for export at world prices.

[Astoria]

You read the comments of the fifth column and are convinced again, except for oral masturbation, they are not capable of anything.

- I understand that you know this topic firsthand

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Who will not see here under the Belarusian flag, every creature in a bet, as they say ...