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India offered to create a production of F-16

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According to the information of the online edition "Look", the press service of the American company Lockheed Martin reported to enter into an agreement of intent with the Indian Tata Advanced Systems, providing for the release Fighter F-16 Block 70 in India.




According to preliminary agreements, India may be able to "produce, use and export F-16 Block 70 aircraft" that "perfectly meet the needs of the Indian Air Force" in single-engine fighter jets.
It is expected that in the case of the implementation of the intentions of the F-16 fighter jets will replace Soviet-made aircraft in service with the Indian Air Force.

As it was announced in March of this year, the Indian authorities refused an additional order for the purchase of French Rafale fighter jets. At the same time, the country's Air Forces need 42 squadrons, only 34 are in service. In 11 of them, the main aircraft is the MiG-21, which is to be written off.

This agreement between the American and Indian companies, apparently, is intended to contribute to the victory in the new tender, providing for the purchase of a light fighter.
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  1. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 20 June 2017 07: 43
    +6
    Fig-yanks are more stubborn, they will drive us out of the Indian arms market.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 20 June 2017 07: 50
      +3
      even if we take a minimum of 11 squadrons in which Mig21 is replaced by f16, then we have already been given.
      1. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 07
        +15
        Well, we don’t have single-engine aircraft. no. not doing and not going to do.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 20 June 2017 08: 17
          +7
          carlperpalnt, a famous thing. the question is different: why not? why can’t they impose their own? in my opinion, four Indians (if not more) have been changing 21 and other planes for four years now. we are calving. it is probably better to sell su35 and t50 in the original versions, without restrictions. we are modernizing our same su30mki with pasta. the impression is that we either have nothing to offer, or we are in the business full of ah.
          1. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 34
            +2
            tried to sell instantly but they are raw.
          2. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 36
            +4
            and what does it mean to impose? it is a business. here they make suggestions and not pose. It would be something to offer would be offered. but if not, then no.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 20 June 2017 08: 41
              +3
              to impose does not mean to force. it would be possible to make a “raw” 35 discount on the price of the aircraft itself, or on the service, sn.
              1. cariperpaint
                cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 42
                +4
                it is the only one among all times with two engines. crude two. not tried three. lost in all aspects.
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 20 June 2017 08: 47
                  +4
                  so I say, we lost to rafal, by the way with two engines, we lost f16 with one, we pull a couple of modernizations with someone. we often lose, and the fines in the “tenders” are just fines that are either ignored or changed.
                  1. cariperpaint
                    cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 53
                    +2
                    rafal lost to himself if you remember the contract was cut badly. f 16 no one lost this is just a proposal and then in the form of an article. modernization is the business of the Indians. they want to get hold of their technology. what is wrong?)))
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer 20 June 2017 08: 59
                      +4
                      from the fact that they cut the number of rafals, the sushi did not increase. I agree, this is an agreement of intent, for now. believe me by word, they will bring to a firm contract. and modernization, usually normal people, lay in the contract at the time of sale.
                      1. cariperpaint
                        cariperpaint 20 June 2017 09: 00
                        +2
                        so a couple of weeks ago the same thing was written about the Swedes) will also be brought to the end?)))
                      2. Vlad.by
                        Vlad.by 22 June 2017 10: 35
                        0
                        And the number of Dryers has not decreased. Licensed production in India, as it went, is still going on.
                        What kind of panic?
          3. Young_Communist
            Young_Communist 21 June 2017 16: 55
            +1
            Quote: newbie
            the impression is that we either have nothing to offer, or we are in the business full of ah.

            It’s just that Trump, a cunning businessman, went to Saudi Arabia and immediately sold them $ 110 billion worth of arms, and GDP, obviously, a sucker, who first gives billions of dollars worth of weapons to various Venezuelans, and then writes off debts to them.
        2. tomket
          tomket 20 June 2017 10: 59
          0
          Quote: cariperpaint
          Well, we don’t have single-engine aircraft. no. not doing and not going to do.

          Here it’s not the number of engines, but the organization of production. To get the plant from the Americans, and leave Pakistan without the main type of air force fighter, it is very interesting for the Indians.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 21 June 2017 17: 13
            +1
            And how will the screwdriver assembly of aircraft in India affect the ability of Pakistan to buy the same F-16 American assembly? what
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 22 June 2017 10: 41
            0
            Explain exactly how they will leave Pakistan, which has long been guided by Chinese fighters “without a main fighter”. Or do you think that the Americans will tear apart their assembly line of aircraft and manufacture spare parts and transfer everything to India? And will the performance of their F-16 fleet and fleet of operators of this fighter all over the world be given to India?
            Think very well for mattresses!
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 20 June 2017 07: 52
      +2
      bastard from the Indians ... that’s because they are cunning ... and there will be dances at the end of the movie?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 20 June 2017 07: 57
        +3
        Kina will not be! Electricity is over!
      2. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 20 June 2017 08: 09
        +5
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        bastard from the Indians ... that’s because they are cunning ... and there will be dances at the end of the movie?

        The Jews will dance at the end ... I think they will be promoted on the F-35 soon!
        1. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 38
          +1
          they will not promote), unlike others, they are looking for their interests. technologies. want assembly on their land in their factories.
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 20 June 2017 15: 26
            +4
            Quote: cariperpaint
            they will not promote), unlike others, they are looking for their interests. technologies. want assembly on their land in their factories.

            heh heh ...! I do not mind, but the Arabs ... lol
            And indeed, Palestine is against it!
    3. Vladimir 38
      Vladimir 38 20 June 2017 08: 04
      +4
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Fig-yanks are more stubborn, they will drive us out of the Indian arms market.

      Moved, not finally squeezed out. This is our toothless policy. How can you jointly develop the t-50 and at the same time negotiate about f16. Somehow, our weird business leads.
      1. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 37
        +1
        they bought rafals and the Swedes are watching. here they are strange.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 June 2017 09: 13
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir 38
        How can you jointly develop the t-50 and at the same time negotiate about f16. Somehow, our weird business leads.

        This is rich vector India. From the very beginning, they tried not to put all the eggs in one basket - as a result, they received a fair zoo in the armed forces.
        In addition, we do not have a single-engine light fighter.
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 22 June 2017 10: 46
          0
          I’ll see how they will sort things out with China and Pakistan with this zoo. And where will they run for parts, weapons, ammunition, and actually the planes, when the mess begins.
          Their zoo is enough for a week. What next?
      3. Shahno
        Shahno 20 June 2017 11: 25
        0
        It seems to me that Lockheed is a multi-run f 35 Trump f16 Indians T 50
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 20 June 2017 15: 29
          +4
          Quote: Shahno
          It seems to me that Lockheed is a multi-run f 35 Trump f16 Indians T 50

          S-700 in Russia! We’ll kill everyone .. And we also launch satellites!
        2. jonhr
          jonhr 21 June 2017 00: 12
          0
          but f-35 wiped his nose laughing [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/YeqryYh_yw0]
  2. zivXP
    zivXP 20 June 2017 08: 11
    0
    Yes, just Indians are asking for discounts from Russia.
  3. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 June 2017 08: 41
    +3
    If Lockheed manages to sign such an agreement with India, then they -
    financial geniuses! Extend the life of the 4 generation aircraft in
    such a huge contract.
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 20 June 2017 08: 44
      +3
      kickbacks have not yet been canceled)))
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 June 2017 10: 13
        0
        Quote: cariperpaint
        kickbacks have not yet been canceled)))

        Stop. This is kickbacks here, and there it is a completely legal development of inter-corporate relations. And it will be so interesting to see. Saab or Lockheed will invest more in the SCO economy
    2. Dead duck
      Dead duck 20 June 2017 09: 30
      +5
      Taki, F-16 in the latest modification is a "very tasty" car and is in no way inferior to the "fresh Euro-planes".
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 20 June 2017 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      If Lockheed manages to sign such an agreement with India, then they -
      financial geniuses!

      That's for sure. Hindus are looking for opportunities to localize AFAR by all means, and there will be an Indian people's hut for billions of crores
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 June 2017 10: 30
        +3
        And they need to hurry. The Chinese laid
        huge factory specialized in manufacturing
        AFAR elements. For themselves, and they will be traded (maybe Israel will
        buy from them, where to get to? - saving).
        The price of an item will drop from thousands of dollars to hundreds.
        AFARs will be on any Chinese aircraft, the most seedy.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 20 June 2017 10: 37
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          maybe Israel will
          buy from them, where to get to? - saving

          Passed like an interview.
          - And we do computers. We have a production
          - What, everything has been done in Russia?
          - Are we ala hoo? Something we buy in China
    4. tomket
      tomket 20 June 2017 11: 04
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      If Lockheed manages to sign such an agreement with India, then they -
      financial geniuses! Extend the life of the 4 generation aircraft in
      such a huge contract.

      I agree, it’s unlikely that they can be squeezed out of f-16, and Lockheed has a new favorite -f-35. The only stumbling block may arise in Trump, who apparently doesn’t like Lockheed very much, and his “buy in the USA” policy may put an end to the transfer of the f-16 production line. By the way, ours could offer the MiG-35 to Pakistan. It is unlikely that the purchase of f-16 from the Indians is shining))))))).
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 June 2017 12: 21
        0
        "Pakistan MiG-35. It is unlikely that the purchase of f-16 from the Indians is shining))))))." ///

        Pakistan is very shining Chinese 5th generation. "Budget" a la F-35.
        And this is very worrying for the Indians. F-16 is being prepared as a "second tier".
        1. aliis-M
          aliis-M 21 June 2017 13: 59
          0
          +1, Pakistan is completely in the China area of ​​interest
    5. jonhr
      jonhr 20 June 2017 23: 13
      0
      this 4-generation aircraft in breo is not very different from 5-generation aircraft
  4. Old26
    Old26 20 June 2017 08: 57
    +2
    Quote: Vladimir 38
    Moved, not finally squeezed out. This is our toothless policy. How can you jointly develop the t-50 and at the same time negotiate about f16. Somehow, our weird business leads.

    Yes, usually lead. We are just used to the fact that, as the main supplier of weapons, the devil knows what times India had the USSR (Russia). But these times are over. Now the Indians are choosing what they need and on what terms. Plus they decided to diversify arms suppliers so as not to be tied to one. Selected by several criteria at once
    1. Cost
    2. Efficiency
    3. Need

    Here they asked a question
    Quote: newbie
    why can’t they impose their own?

    And how can you impose something on any country, such as Mongolia and Ethiopia. and the country is quite developed. For example, if you want to buy a 10-ton boat with one engine, and you are offered 25 tons with two. And what for you need it. You are buying specifically for something, and not just like that. So it is here, with India. Arranges them, for example, the Barak-8 air defense system for its interception capabilities - they buy it.

    Their performance characteristics and pricing policy for the 5th generation aircraft are arranged - they participate in the development of our T-50, and do not buy the American F-35. Everyone decides for himself what is needed. And we, simply according to our old habits, believe that since India once bought from us, it means that it is obliged to the tombstone and now do it
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 20 June 2017 09: 17
      +3
      business_ this art is not to sell to the client what he wants, but to explain to the client that he needs your product and sell it. I agree with you that our defense export and all KB are considering inertia in India. this is where all the troubles come from, we are never ready, we always face a fact, react late.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 20 June 2017 12: 52
        +2
        Oh come on, the Indians from the 60s set their conditions when buying weapons.
        For example, here, after the Americans, the built-in guns began to be removed from the fighters and switched to outboard guns.
        Hindus MiG-21 without a built-in gun refused to take. They made a modification of the MiG-21FL with a gun for them, and the Indians bought it. Then all our subsequent MiG-21s went with guns. By the way, the Americans also returned the built-in gun to the fighter, and more than this foolishness with hanging guns did not lurk like ours.
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 22 June 2017 12: 27
        0
        This is you and your grandmother in the bazaar so will do the "business".
  5. tlauicol
    tlauicol 20 June 2017 09: 12
    0
    Lockheed fears Saab
  6. newcomer
    newcomer 20 June 2017 09: 12
    +2
    carlperpalnt, I'm sorry, but did the Swedes sign a memorandum of intent? (And the Swedes will not go out, the grip is not the same).
  7. Dead duck
    Dead duck 20 June 2017 09: 33
    +5
    Many are upgrading old or resuming production.
    Only the elite have novelties, and even then they are few.
    In such a light, the F-35 may end up in chocolate. what