The bodies of the seven dead sailors of the US Navy destroyer were found.

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7th Command fleet US confirms the death of USS Fitzgerald destroyer. Recall that an American warship off the coast of Japan collided with a container ship ACX Crystal, sailing under the Philippine flag. The bodies of the dead were found behind the flooded part of the US Navy ship.



We are talking about the seven bodies found dead sailors. All of them delivered to the Japanese city of Yokosuka. TV channel CNN referring to the military command, reports that all seven missing persons were found by a diving group.

In the command of the US Navy reported that the families of all seven dead sailors will receive a "notice of what happened." It is added that the family members of the victims will be paid financial assistance.

The container ship, which rammed the warship, is located at the Oi berth in Tokyo, where the investigation team is conducting an interrogation of the crew. Unlike the American destroyer, the container ship received light damage as a result of a collision. None of the crew on board was injured.

From the message of the representative of the American 7 fleet:
The names of the dead sailors will be named after the identification will be examined.


It is noted that the collision of two ships "could occur due to heavy traffic in the area." According to statistics, in the area of ​​the collision of ships daily pass to 500 ships.
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  1. +30
    18 June 2017 08: 16
    Every American destroyer in a container ship!
    1. +10
      18 June 2017 09: 05
      A Nehru container ships cut on the road! laughing
      1. +31
        18 June 2017 09: 10
        A cattle truck is cooler than a reconnaissance vessel,
        container ship - destroyer.
        The floating asenizator is simply obliged to sink aircraft carriers smile
        1. +5
          18 June 2017 14: 56
          Quote: Thrall
          A cattle truck is cooler than a reconnaissance vessel,
          container ship - destroyer.
          The floating asenizator is simply obliged to sink aircraft carriers ...

          It’s scary to think about tankers then - a strategic weapon, a military port can demolish. winked (And the most paradoxical - I'm not joking what)

          The families of sailors - condolences, bonded people - lived by order, died under orders. request
          1. +2
            18 June 2017 16: 25
            Quote: And Us Rat
            bonded people - lived by order

            As far as I know, all the contractors are in the Navy in the states. No one dragged them there by force. On the other hand, it’s a navy, they knew where they were going. Probably.
            1. +2
              18 June 2017 17: 21
              Quote: Orionvit
              No one was dragging them there by force.

              There is such a profession - to defend the homeland. And as a rule they don’t choose her. request (does not concern Jews wink )
              1. +3
                18 June 2017 18: 15
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                There is such a profession - to defend the homeland. And as a rule they don’t choose her. request (does not concern Jews wink )

                It concerns. recourse Unfortunately, the family has its black sheep. angry

                A video from 2013 leaked the political book bill. angry
                1. +2
                  18 June 2017 18: 43
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  It concerns.

                  I didn’t mean it. It’s just that many of your compatriots are pouring mud at MY Homeland, which gave them Everything. request
                  1. +4
                    18 June 2017 20: 08
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I didn’t mean it. It’s just that many of your compatriots are pouring mud at MY Homeland, which gave them Everything.

                    To be honest, I’m not a judge here - some of them really “drank the dashing” from the hands of the CPSU, someone just “parrots”, but they are not the “official line of the party”, opinions are personal.
                    For example, I relate to Russia quite positively, and philosophically. And I do not become Russophobe, just because many of Your compatriots being poured mud MY Homeland.
                    I have an allergy to "great-power chauvinism" and double standards, I can attach a "verb", click on my nose, but I don’t have a habit of pouring mud out of a "love of art" ...
                    But you personally (Ingvar 72) - often sin with a biased attitude and an unfounded generalization. Bad, get above that. drinks wink
                    1. +2
                      18 June 2017 20: 33
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I didn’t mean it. It’s just that many of your compatriots are pouring mud at MY Homeland, which gave them Everything.

                      To be honest, I’m not a judge here - some of them really “drank the dashing” from the hands of the CPSU, someone just “parrots”, but they are not the “official line of the party”, opinions are personal.
                      For example, I relate to Russia quite positively, and philosophically. And I do not become Russophobe, just because many of Your compatriots being poured mud MY Homeland.
                      I have an allergy to "great-power chauvinism" and double standards, I can attach a "verb", click on my nose, but I don’t have a habit of pouring mud out of a "love of art" ...
                      But you personally (Ingvar 72) - often sin with a biased attitude and an unfounded generalization. Bad, get above that. drinks wink

                      As for the CPSU, from which they have suffered, stop it. I have not seen a single humiliated and insulted from a party worker.
                      Household things happened that hide and lie.
                      Many prokhindey who consider themselves talented and a genius in the sale of ice cream, once on the Promised Land, to their disappointment learned that they were lower than the bottom. For the Jews are there. And their abilities are not there in honor.
                      1. 0
                        18 June 2017 21: 03
                        Quote: viktor kurganov
                        As for the CPSU, from which they have suffered, stop it. I have not seen a single humiliated and insulted from a party worker.

                        If you personally have not seen - this does not mean that it was not.
                        ... In 1985, a statement to the prosecutor’s office of the Leningrad philologist I. Martynov demanding that the “Zionologist” L. Korneev be brought to criminal responsibility ended in the prosecution of Martynov himself.
                        The liberalization of public life was used before all anti-Semitic groups and organizations that already existed under the auspices of the authorities. The transition of the anti-Semitic initiative from the hands of the CPSU to the hands of public organizations was probably associated not only with the collapse of state ideology, but also with the discrediting of official “Zionologists”.
                        Along with communist anti-Semitism, anti-communist became legal. The concept of anti-Semitism was restored, since there was no longer a need for the term “anti-Zionism” (but the slogan of the fight against Zionism did not disappear) ...

                        Details here:
                        http://www.eleven.co.il/article/15420
                    2. +2
                      18 June 2017 22: 46
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      allergy to "great-power chauvinism"

                      Alas, human nature is designed that way. By the way, chauvinism on the part of the Russians is still a flower compared to any exclusivity and, excuse me, God's chosen people.
                      1. +1
                        19 June 2017 01: 03
                        Quote: Ajent Cho
                        these are still flowers in comparison with any exclusivity and, excuse me, God's chosen people.

                        Forgot to add here the "God-bearing people." wink
                        I personally I do not suffer from such prejudices, I belong to religion ... I do not belong in short, therefore - I can afford it. wink
                    3. 0
                      18 June 2017 23: 32
                      Unfortunately, it happens that "bile" after the news about the acts of the "union of hegemons" stands out somewhat more than it can process the mind and, in the wake of emotions, gets to everyone.
  2. +10
    18 June 2017 08: 18
    Well, there were "losses". This is good, because they could have accused of desertion ...
    1. +15
      18 June 2017 08: 31
      The fact that they died was clear. Even the fact that they were supposed to be walled up in broken compartments gave little hope. They would be alive, as they would have designated themselves .... poor fellow. Well, they’ll even bury them humanly ”and not eat the fish.
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  3. +23
    18 June 2017 08: 22
    The vaunted Ijegs didn’t notice the container ship on its side? belay
    1. +17
      18 June 2017 08: 28
      Yes, everything is not like Zadornov’s, they and the Lighthouse are not an obstacle.
      1. +17
        18 June 2017 08: 46
        This is where: "My assistant and the canary are on the island and are the lighthouse watchers." good Our estuary even stood and a cattle truck rammed it because of sloppiness. And then the exceptional ones did not have time to slip through? I am a man very far from shipping, but it seems that the Americans were hoping for an instant stop of the container ship at their first request. The top of self-righteousness and the legal ending. negative
        1. +3
          18 June 2017 09: 07
          Slippery on the water, so it didn’t stop. You cannot return the sailors.
          1. +18
            18 June 2017 09: 17
            Kep container ship probably thought: "30 years at the helm and not a single riffraff had time to slip through!"
        2. +5
          18 June 2017 12: 05
          Navy ships of any state behave like masters of the seas with priority over some civilian vessels am although, if a collision occurred, then according to the MPSS, both are to blame, only in a different percentage. We, the navigators, have been taught all our lives to "be afraid of a drunken fisherman and a sailor in the sea"
    2. +7
      18 June 2017 09: 15
      Quote: Svarog51
      The vaunted Ijegs didn’t notice the container ship on its side? belay

      Warships with stealth technology of the hull, as a result, will gradually be drowned by civilian vessels.
      1. +13
        18 June 2017 09: 35
        This was still lucky, the container ship managed to slow down, otherwise it would have halved it.
      2. +4
        18 June 2017 10: 09
        It's right. On Zumvolt put the lenses from all sides. And then civilian radars
        his ships are whipped only at point blank range. And visually scared of the huge size of the ship,
        suddenly arising from "nowhere." There were complaints about the organization of civil shipping ..
        1. Maz
          +1
          18 June 2017 13: 31
          What did the destroyer cap learn about this only after the collision? TTX own weapons need to be taught. laughing
          1. +1
            19 June 2017 18: 24
            Quote: Maz
            What did the destroyer cap learn about this only after the collision?

            According to the official report, at the time of the collision, the captain was in his cabin (probably gasping — my note personally), where he suffered a head injury (I guess he got out of bed on the floor), due to which he was transported by helicopter to a hospital on the shore, where is in stable condition.
        2. 0
          18 June 2017 17: 23
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And then civilian radars
          his ships are whipped only at point blank range

          Relaxed, and rely ONLY on electronics. That is the whole reason.
    3. +6
      18 June 2017 11: 23
      It is a pity that the destroyer BC did not detonate. A good firework would be.
  4. +22
    18 June 2017 08: 22
    I’ve noticed what. Many disasters that we have, that are connected in the United States. So we have a collision, now they have them. Then they will not take off a rocket in a short time with us, etc. .. Coincidence? I don’t think. Some kind of karmic connection is being drawn. It’s a direct warning from above. We should not fight. Khan is literally for everyone.feel
    In the head in the morning of Sunday thoughts flooded laughing
    1. +3
      18 June 2017 08: 34
      For each meanness on their part, they will receive the same thing, in the same place. They don’t understand otherwise.
      1. 0
        18 June 2017 17: 27
        Quote: figvam
        For each meanness on their part, they will receive the same, for the same places

        The cycle is homogeneous in nature. laughing Well, or the effect of retribution, as my friend says. hi
    2. Mwg
      +4
      18 June 2017 08: 41
      The right thoughts come to you on Sunday morning))) People and states have karma ....
    3. +10
      18 June 2017 08: 44
      You can see something here
      December 12, 1952 - Accident at the Chock River Laboratory - Canada - INES 5
      September 29, 1957 - Kyshtym accident - USSR - INES 6
      October 10, 1957 - Windscale Accident - United Kingdom - INES 5
      February 5, 1958 - Collision of a B-47 bomber and an F-86 fighter over the island of Taipei - USA
      1960, 1961 - K-8 (submarine) - USSR
      July 4, 1961 - K-19 - USSR
      1965 - K-11 - USSR
      January 17, 1966 - Plane crash over Palomares January 17, 1966 - Spain
      January 21, 1968 - Plane crash over the base of Thule - Greenland
      May 24, 1968 - K-27 - USSR
      January 18, 1970 - Radiation accident at the Krasnoe Sormovo plant - USSR
      October 2, 1974, August 24, 1978 - Nuclear explosions in Yakutia - USSR
      November 30, 1975 - accident at the Leningrad NPP - USSR
      January 24, 1978 - Space-954 - USSR
      March 28, 1979 - Three Mile Island accident - USA - INES 5
      1980 - Saint Laurent des Hautes - France— INES 4
      1982 - Radiation accident in Andreeva Bay - USSR
      1983 - Cosmos-1402 - USSR
      August 10, 1985 - Radiation accident in Chazhma Bay - USSR
      April 26, 1986 - Accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant - USSR, - INES 7
      May 4, 1986 - Failure of the fuel rod delivery mechanism. Attempts by the operator to correct the situation led to the destruction of the reactor vessel and a large emission of radiation - Hamm-Uentrop, Germany
      April 19, 1988 - an experiment simulating a collision of an F-4 Phantom II fighter at a speed of 888 km / h against a 365 cm thick nuclear power plant wall conducted by Sandia National Laboratories showed that the nuclear power plants are reliably protected against such incidents and will continue normal operation after the collision [2]
      1989 - Fire at the Vandelos NPP - Spain - INES 3
      1993 - Accident at the Siberian Chemical Plant - Russia - INES 3 [source not specified 1945 days] or INES 4 [3] [4]
      September 30, 1999 - Accident at Tokaimura nuclear facility - Japan - INES 4
      2005 - Sellafield - England - INES 3
      2006 - Fleurus (Fleurus, Belgium)
      March 11, 2011 - Fukushima-1 accident - Japan - INES 7
      1. +9
        18 June 2017 09: 10
        Forgot to add.
        28 January 1986 years the accident of the Shuttle Challenger.
        The "landmark" year was.
      2. +4
        18 June 2017 10: 05
        Add:
        April 10, 1963 - the death of the atomic submarine Thresher - USA
        May 28, 1968 - The death of the nuclear submarine Scorpio - USA
      3. +1
        19 June 2017 10: 20
        So what?
        The entropy of complex technical objects - something, but breaks.

        The hydraulic unit was driven several hundred times through resonant frequencies during acceleration - the studs could not stand the next acceleration:

        "... I stood upstairs, heard some kind of growing noise, then I saw the corrugated coating of the hydraulic unit rise and drift. Then I saw the rotor rise from under it. It rotated. His eyes did not believe it. He rose three meters. Stones, pieces of reinforcement flew away, we started to dodge them ... The corrugated film was already somewhere under the roof, and the roof itself was blown apart ... I figured it out: water rises, 380 cubic meters per second, and - tear, towards the tenth unit. I don’t have time, I went up, stopped, looked down - I see how everything collapses, water arrives , people are trying to swim ... I thought that the gates need to be closed urgently, manually, to stop the water ... Manually, because there is no tension, no protection worked ... "
    4. +2
      18 June 2017 10: 42
      Quote: Observer2014
      I’ve noticed what. Many disasters that we have, that are connected in the United States. So we have a collision, now they have them. Then they will not take off a rocket in a short time with us, etc. .. Coincidence? I don’t think. Some kind of karmic connection is being drawn. It’s a direct warning from above. We should not fight. Khan is literally for everyone.feel
      In the head in the morning of Sunday thoughts flooded laughing

      However, observant you with the small phrase.
      1. +1
        18 June 2017 11: 39
        Viktor Kurganov
        However, observant you with the small phrase.
        So and I about that! recourse feel
    5. +1
      18 June 2017 20: 03
      Have you ever heard of catastrophe pairing theory?
      1. +1
        18 June 2017 20: 05
        Cook
        Have you ever heard of catastrophe pairing theory?
        Never. It will be necessary to google.
  5. vch
    +4
    18 June 2017 08: 22
    It turns out that the sailors drowned in a locked room inside the ship ?! And they could not just get them for more than a day, but thought that they had "disappeared"! Well, this is complete ....... psh .... Here you have the training of the crews of the US Navy !!
    1. +10
      18 June 2017 08: 37
      What does the preparation have to do with it? Our helicopter fell overboard while boarding a ship, in front of a large number of witnesses of the disaster. In this case, one pilot was thrown out of a helicopter, and the second drowned with a helicopter. And while the helicopter was not reached, the pilot was considered missing. He was driving the news, despite the fact that all this had been devoured in front of so many sailors. No body, then missing.
    2. +3
      18 June 2017 09: 28
      But what do you think they should get? open compartments and flood other compartments? unfortunately, but this is the fate of sailors who remain in locked compartments. and judging by the fact that they did not identify themselves, they perished quickly. there were no air pockets where they were
    3. +7
      18 June 2017 10: 12
      Four years ago, in winter, in the Krasnodar Territory, the An-2 "farmer" crashed. A pond deep in waist. One pilot got out, the second choked, crushed the tank for chemical preparations and could not get out. Like this.
    4. +1
      18 June 2017 10: 27
      And how do you suggest getting them out of there, don’t you see that the floor of the ship has turned into an accordion from scrap metal? Or did you have to cut the case on the go?
      Apparently the destroyer also received a leak, the video shows how the pumps pump out the water as if crazy.
    5. +4
      18 June 2017 11: 19
      Well, before the strike - apparently they had time to play combat. Or already on strike. In any case, those compartments that no one will open will be flooded.
      It was hoped that the missing were battened down in compartments - which were cut off by damage but remained dry. This did not materialize.

      The flow of water was stopped, pumped out and those compartments that were battened down were opened - they found the dead. All according to the procedure.
  6. +9
    18 June 2017 08: 32
    ,,, the country needs a fleet?, aircraft carriers ?, the country needs container ships laughing
    1. +8
      18 June 2017 08: 45
      And cattle trucks laughing and more
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    2. +2
      18 June 2017 13: 11
      Quote: bubalik
      container ships the country needs

      With warmed containers
  7. +4
    18 June 2017 08: 40
    What is this, "otvetka" for "Estuary" "flew in" ????
    1. Maz
      +1
      18 June 2017 13: 32
      Duck the earth is round, so Liman and hiccuped
    2. +1
      18 June 2017 18: 39
      ISIS in the Philippines also came from nowhere, like that cattle truck.
      Maybe for one, or maybe for another, but flew quickly. hi
  8. Mwg
    +8
    18 June 2017 08: 43
    God rest their souls ...
    Killed due to the pride of their bosses
  9. +4
    18 June 2017 08: 43
    Along the way, the container ship captain remembered his grandfather, and maybe his grandmother from Hiroshima or Nagasaki, and with the cries of "Banzai" turned the helm.
    1. +1
      18 June 2017 09: 41
      Americans have been let down by the habit of poking their nose everywhere. So they stuck under the stem of the container ship.
    2. kig
      0
      19 June 2017 03: 12
      Banzai has nothing to do with it. The ship under the Philippine flag was probably controlled by a crew of citizens of the Philippines. A huge number of them fly under other flags, and even more so under their own flags.
  10. +2
    18 June 2017 08: 44
    The mattress is getting underfoot. There is a violent trade, and they are playing war games, how to drink, all of Uncle Tom’s dead children.
  11. +26
    18 June 2017 08: 45
    Here you are ........ There the Sailors died, and the joys here ... Rest in peace in the Kingdom of the Sea .......
    1. +14
      18 June 2017 10: 07
      Quote: MPK105
      There, the sailors died

      It's not the same for everybody. Maybe for you and sailors ... For me, they are soldiers of a potential adversary whose declared strategy is to “contain” Russia. Gandhas, damn it. They tear ass to kill my children and grandchildren, plunder my homeland, and here I SHOULD not resist evil to portray violence? When the Canadian frigate in the Adriatic does not allow you to go to Porto Nagaro along the Yugoslav coast, you, of course, will be happy to be late for unloading? Because they are sailors? Or because the sailor from the helicopter that hangs above your tank, the machine gun brought to your bridge? How is it with sailors in custom? In the best traditions of Drake and Morgan?
      1. +1
        18 June 2017 12: 14
        I support one hundred percent !!! drinks
      2. +2
        19 June 2017 05: 38
        Quote: 97110
        They tear ass to kill my children and grandchildren, plunder my homeland,

        Much greater danger for yours, as well as for my children, is represented by Tajik / Uzbek wipers and builders who explode bombs in the subway. As long as there is an army and navy in Russia, the NATO will only gnaw.
    2. +7
      18 June 2017 10: 11
      Quote: MPK105
      Here you are ........ There the Sailors died, and the joys here ..


      I am joining. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. Those who walked in the seas will never “jog” in such cases. Mutual respect and help, including to the enemy, is the basis of survival at sea. Remember how many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle.
      1. +7
        18 June 2017 10: 21
        Land will not understand ... hi That’s why they separate us, with the day of the Army and Navy, they say, because there are two different planets, different WORLDS ... Yes, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT .. On the Sea, BROTHERS ALL, BEFORE AND AFTER THE BATTLE ....
        1. +2
          18 June 2017 12: 13
          Brothers !? Remember the behavior of German submariners during the Second World War!
          1. kig
            +2
            19 June 2017 03: 25
            Remember the behavior of German submariners during the Second World War - by the way, their behavior also was different. For example, google "Laconia incident"
            1. +2
              19 June 2017 16: 18
              Quote: kig
              Remember the behavior of German submariners during the Second World War - by the way, their behavior also was different. For example, google "Laconia incident"

              As far as I know, there the Germans drowned a cruise ship, which transported Italian prisoners. Having discovered this, the German captain surfaced and participated in the rescue.
              But he saved the allies, although he violated the order not to do this when torpedoing an enemy ship. There is no feat. Survive with impunity, and slowly, without risking anything (there was no armed enemy around), except at the risk of punishment. Of course, a "heroic deed."
              And humanism is whipping from all the holes.
              1. kig
                0
                20 June 2017 02: 51
                And he, on an open wave, told everyone that he was involved in the rescue, and this attracted American aircraft. War, what can you do.
                1. 0
                  20 June 2017 16: 23
                  Quote: kig
                  And he, on an open wave, told everyone that he was involved in the rescue, and this attracted American aircraft. War, what can you do.

                  Have you stood next to the chronometer? Or did he (?) Do it at the same time, in the hot air mode? Pour a couple of dozen (no longer fit) saved - a lot of time is not needed. Far less. what to detect coordinates, equip a squadron, fly .... and so on.
                  1. kig
                    0
                    21 June 2017 02: 42
                    I see that you undertook to discuss this story without knowing anything about it. Check out the Wiki on this topic. Catch a couple dozen - it was not like that at all.
      2. +3
        18 June 2017 10: 49
        Quote: Seaman77
        Quote: MPK105
        Here you are ........ There the Sailors died, and the joys here ..

        I am joining. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. Those who walked in the seas will never “jog” in such cases. Mutual respect and help, including to the enemy, is the basis of survival at sea. Remember how many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle.

        No snot needed.
        Remember better how many American sailors drowned the Japanese in Pearl Harbor. The Japanese in Tsushima did not kill the Russians at all from revenge. and "humanity" here is complete verbiage.
        1. +8
          18 June 2017 11: 59
          Quote: viktor kurganov
          No snot needed.

          This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.
          1. +4
            18 June 2017 12: 19
            Quote: Seaman77
            Quote: viktor kurganov
            No snot needed.

            This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

            No need to pile everything that comes to hand. Peace time and rescued sailor with appendicitis. Destroyed in battle squadron and rescued, later captive sailors. Squadron of the country, NOT an aggressor. If you do not separate one from the other, then you will all marry everyone, sleep on a collective farm, and rape newborns.
            1. +4
              18 June 2017 16: 53
              and you are now at war, that the joy of you runs from the realization that 7 people died?
              you put in one pile and do not notice your log
              1. +3
                18 June 2017 22: 12
                Quote: jonhr
                and you are now at war, that the joy of you runs from the realization that 7 people died?
                you put in one pile and do not notice your log

                In a state of hybrid warfare. And in Syria it’s practically hot. For without the support of p ... owls, ISIS simply would not have existed either at all or for a long time. Without support in ukrozhopiya,
                in the Donbass this would not have happened.

                Further. Where did I write that I am happy? Do not be idiotic. I do not shed tears about this.
            2. +3
              19 June 2017 05: 28
              Quote: viktor kurganov
              Quote: Seaman77
              Quote: viktor kurganov
              No snot needed.

              This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

              No need to pile everything that comes to hand. Peace time and rescued sailor with appendicitis. Destroyed in battle squadron and rescued, later captive sailors. Squadron of the country, NOT an aggressor. If you do not separate one from the other, then you will all marry everyone, sleep on a collective farm, and rape newborns.

              Sailors provide assistance in peacetime and during the war. In Tsushima, the RIF and the Japanese fleet fought. After the Japanese Navy completed its mission and defeated the RIF, the Japanese Sailors wrote off the surviving Russian sailors from 100% death at sea.
              When I go through those places, I always give a long beep, in memory of the dead Sailors.
              1. 0
                19 June 2017 16: 20
                Quote: Seaman77
                Quote: viktor kurganov
                Quote: Seaman77
                Quote: viktor kurganov
                No snot needed.

                This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

                No need to pile everything that comes to hand. Peace time and rescued sailor with appendicitis. Destroyed in battle squadron and rescued, later captive sailors. Squadron of the country, NOT an aggressor. If you do not separate one from the other, then you will all marry everyone, sleep on a collective farm, and rape newborns.

                Sailors provide assistance in peacetime and during the war. In Tsushima, the RIF and the Japanese fleet fought. After the Japanese Navy completed its mission and defeated the RIF, the Japanese Sailors wrote off the surviving Russian sailors from 100% death at sea.
                When I go through those places, I always give a long beep, in memory of the dead Sailors.

                For the honor of the dead, thank you. But no more than that. Not a micron.
          2. +5
            18 June 2017 12: 29
            Quote: Seaman77
            Quote: viktor kurganov
            No snot needed.

            This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

            "Humane attitude to the enemy." This is the result of a historical choice instilled in the history of the relations of enemies in the war. If it is merciless to destroy totally, everything that is still moving, then this causes frenzied resistance and leads to increased own losses. Which, in particular, destroyed fascist Germany.
            If you do not save the wounded and do not take them out of the battlefield, even incurring additional losses, then such an army will not fight. At parades it will look brave, but in a fight it will run away at the first shots. If you do not shoot the deserters, then the same thing, the defeat is guaranteed. So, the salvation of an enemy who has lost the possibility of resistance is not humanity, but an iron necessity and concern for his own.
          3. Maz
            +2
            18 June 2017 13: 35
            So it is, Siamese77, German sailors drowned our barges in the north with civilians, let them block the memorial in Murmansk, they’re seamen ...
          4. +3
            18 June 2017 22: 20
            Quote: Seaman77
            Quote: viktor kurganov
            No snot needed.

            This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

            Or change the flag, or do not write "our Pike" ....
            1. +4
              19 June 2017 05: 20
              Quote: viktor kurganov
              Quote: Seaman77
              Quote: viktor kurganov
              No snot needed.

              This is not a snot, but a condition of SURVIVAL at sea. If today I do not help someone, then tomorrow, this someone will not help me. Remember in the 90s, when our "Pike" surfaced in the middle of NATO ships? Our sailor had an attack of appendicitis and he needed urgent help. The NATO provided this assistance and the man survived. And following your logic “no snot” could send away and joke that another Russian less.

              Or change the flag, or do not write "our Pike" ....

              You cannot select a flag here. It stands by IP. For those who are very concerned, such as you, for example, I wrote a residence in my profile.
              1. +1
                19 June 2017 16: 23
                Quote: Seaman77
                ...
                You cannot select a flag here. It stands by IP. For those who are very concerned, such as you, for example, I wrote a residence in my profile.

                Then you have the second option. You have nothing to do with Russian sailors. You have made your choice. And your location does not bother me.
          5. kig
            +1
            19 June 2017 03: 28
            1943, American sailors save (capture, but still save) German sailors sunk U-175

      3. +3
        18 June 2017 12: 14
        Quote: Seaman77
        Quote: MPK105
        Here you are ........ There the Sailors died, and the joys here ..

        I am joining. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. Those who walked in the seas will never “jog” in such cases. Mutual respect and help, including to the enemy, is the basis of survival at sea. Remember how many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle.

        1. And how many were thrown into the water, swimming over their heads?
        2. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. I do not agree. The war is already underway and the ENEMIES have perished. The more they die, the better for us.
        1. +1
          18 June 2017 16: 56
          war is in your head. I am not a specialist and therefore I think that you should contact him. but the feeling that someone is following you or the feeling of fear is paranoia
          1. +1
            18 June 2017 18: 00
            Quote: jonhr
            war is in your head. I am not a specialist and therefore I think that you should contact him. but the feeling that someone is following you or the feeling of fear is paranoia

            You have visions. Pill and peace. Do not pick up Claudia! primo quidem (irritability.)
            While rude, you forgot what you wanted to say? Well remember, pay-boy.
            1. +2
              18 June 2017 18: 49
              you need a pill just do not remember what you wrote.
              and how do you personally differ from those who swam on someone’s heads?
        2. +1
          19 June 2017 10: 49
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          1. And how many were thrown into the water, swimming over their heads?
          2. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. I do not agree. The war is already underway and the ENEMIES have perished. The more they die, the better for us.


          Turn to dohtur - drink tazepamchik. Sedative every day.
          The hedgehog was at war - you could already feed the worms torn by a shell.

          Thanks to the guys in the boots — the Army, Navy and Air Force — their work and daily risk is the best guarantee against war.
          1. 0
            19 June 2017 15: 36
            Quote: DimerVladimer
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            1. And how many were thrown into the water, swimming over their heads?
            2. Killed in a combat post, which is worthy of respect. I do not agree. The war is already underway and the ENEMIES have perished. The more they die, the better for us.

            Turn to dohtur - drink tazepamchik. Sedative every day.
            The hedgehog was at war - you could already feed the worms torn by a shell.
            Thanks to the guys in the boots — the Army, Navy and Air Force — their work and daily risk is the best guarantee against war.

            Do not understand. Boorish as the last climbed. He didn’t cross his forehead, neither a pardon, nor a hello.
            I understand the problems of Monday. Therefore, it’s not “To Dohtur” that he, he will say that the Rocketeer has been redone, you need to hold on. Hold on and hold on. From a binge.
            I understand that you have a woman - B ... (big), children - x .... (good), at work g ... (hot). What do I have to do with it?
            Deal with your worms in your head and belly yourself. (With amers kiss in a hickey, they love it)
      4. +2
        18 June 2017 15: 02
        How many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle? But is it nothing that the Japanese fleet was ten times stronger and attacked vilely? How many Japan did we ram, after the development of nuclear weapons, we needed, like the Americans, to go through it a couple of times. Then now there would be no questions on the Kuril Islands.
        1. +1
          19 June 2017 11: 24
          Quote: dr.star75
          How many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle? Is it okay that the Japanese fleet was ten times stronger and attacked vilely?


          The superiority in the forces of the Japanese fleet in the main battles (in the Yellow Sea and at Tsushima) did not exceed 20% -30%, by no means twice or even less than 10 times :))

          Tsushima - in the first minutes of the battle, the opponents inflicted heavy damage on each other. But the beginning of the battle was extremely unsuccessful for the Russians: the battleship Oslyabya received exactly the injuries that caused his quick death, and the flagship Suvorov lost control and left the system. The Japanese immediately received a significant head start: their 12 ships were already opposed by only 10, four of which (the Nakhimov and the coastal defense battleships) were much weaker than any Japanese ship. The following hours of artillery combat inflicted more and more defeats on the ships of both sides, but due to relative weakness, the Russian squadron suffered more and more ...
          But even after 5 hours of the Tsushima battle, the position of the Russians did not seem tragic. Not only Russian, but also Japanese ships were significantly damaged - "Mikasa" received 10 twelve-inch shells - twice as much "Eagle ...
          It is unlikely that Togo was at this moment pleased with the results of the battle. 5 hours of almost continuous fire and - only one sunken ship! ...
          ... the "turning point" has come. For half an hour, from 7 to 7.30 in the evening, Alexander and Borodino, the two newest Russian battleships, went to the bottom. The first of them apparently simply exhausted the further opportunity to withstand the continuous effects of enemy fire. Most likely, the same fate would befall the “Eagle”, if the battle dragged on for another half hour. The fate of Borodino turned into a cruel irony of naval battle: the last salvo of Fuji, so happily avoiding death two hours earlier, caused a severe fire in the 152-mm tower of the Russian battleship, which apparently caused detonation of charges. In any case, the death of "Borodino" in the description of Pekingham very reminiscent of the instant "departure from the scene" of the British battlecruisers ... "
          http://tsushima.su/RU/libru/i/Page_7/page_18/page
          _19 / Page_32 / kofman-analiz /

          Losses of the Russian fleet in the war with Japan (for the entire war)
          34557 people participated in the hostilities
          6511 people died on the battlefield (at sea)
          Captured 15151 people
          5628 interned

          http://www.rus-sky.com/history/library/w/w01.htm
        2. +1
          19 June 2017 17: 25
          Quote: dr.star75
          How many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle? But is it nothing that the Japanese fleet was ten times stronger and attacked vilely? How many Japan did we ram, after the development of nuclear weapons, we needed, like the Americans, to go through it a couple of times. Then now there would be no questions on the Kuril Islands.

          Eco, you my friend with a checker then ... Easy.
          The history of the Russo-Japanese War has been written more than once. How else? Tsarism is under the press of "having a conscience", and the West prints the recollections of eyewitnesses-experts and brand, brand.
          Where can I write a story about how we smashed a row of Japanese blood. Then the big men came, "Tsarism could not win, because it rotted." Is logical. How to object?
          Then Stalin. Empathy for defeat and the need for revenge. All in topic. And here is 1945.
          And in stagnation, that tsarism won ... and do we need this?
          Of course, the information is buried here and there.
          Now again, the liberals do not need our victories in the past. From Grozny, to 2MV one shame and shame ....
          So about R.-Y. the war. According to old rules: the one who left the battlefield won.
          And we were trampled upon by the “world community” from the battlefield. (And who was the initiator of the reconciliation? The Japanese. And that they are so peace-loving, they suddenly began. Proud Japanese fell on Roosevelt's feet, Old Man, give peace!)
          Look not for sites (who knows what fleas did them), "The history of military losses" B.Ts. Urlanis. References to sources 1911-1914.
          Our losses: land - 25311 hours, sea - 6299 hours.
          Japanese: land - 47387 hours; sea ​​- 2 hours
          Surprisingly, these are not the final numbers. The Russians, thanks to the organization of the medical service: died of wounds: Russians 6127, Japanese - 11425 people.
          from diseases: we lost 11170 hours; Japanese - 27195 hours
          In captivity died: our 1693 hours
          Here are the statistics. The Japanese went to the wool, and the haircuts returned.
          1. 0
            19 June 2017 17: 36
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Quote: dr.star75
            How many Russian sailors were saved by the Japanese during the Tsushima battle? But is it nothing that the Japanese fleet was ten times stronger and attacked vilely? How many Japan did we ram, after the development of nuclear weapons, we needed, like the Americans, to go through it a couple of times. Then now there would be no questions on the Kuril Islands.

            Eco, you my friend with a checker then ... Easy.
            The history of the Russo-Japanese War has been written more than once. How else? Tsarism is under the press of "having a conscience", and the West prints the recollections of eyewitnesses-experts and brand, brand.
            Where can I write a story about how we smashed a row of Japanese blood. Then the big men came, "Tsarism could not win, because it rotted." Is logical. How to object?
            Then Stalin. Empathy for defeat and the need for revenge. All in topic. And here is 1945.
            And in stagnation, that tsarism won ... and do we need this?
            Of course, the information is buried here and there.
            Now again, the liberals do not need our victories in the past. From Grozny, to 2MV one shame and shame ....
            So about R.-Y. the war. According to old rules: the one who left the battlefield won.
            And we were trampled upon by the “world community” from the battlefield. (And who was the initiator of the reconciliation? The Japanese. And that they are so peace-loving, they suddenly began. Proud Japanese fell on Roosevelt's feet, Old Man, give peace!)
            Look not for sites (who knows what fleas did them), "The history of military losses" B.Ts. Urlanis. References to sources 1911-1914.
            Our losses: land - 25311 hours, sea - 6299 hours.
            Japanese: land - 47387 hours; sea ​​- 2 hours
            Surprisingly, these are not the final numbers. The Russians, thanks to the organization of the medical service: died of wounds: Russians 6127, Japanese - 11425 people.
            from diseases: we lost 11170 hours; Japanese - 27195 hours
            In captivity died: our 1693 hours
            Here are the statistics. The Japanese went to the wool, and the haircuts returned.
    3. +6
      18 June 2017 11: 42
      Why do I need their "sailors" ?! If you climbed a ship to frighten everyone in a row, thinking that you are the messiah in the name of "democracy", this does not mean that you have become a sailor ... An ordinary blockhead in a marine form. Medieval pirates are much more sailors, because you won’t be able to walk the seas without training. And then that - he sat on the pope smoothly, he won’t sway, he won’t crash ... Well, unless you creep under the container ship. Which, incidentally, confirms that the sailors are useless. After all, if more than 500 ships pass there per day, and nothing is known about the accidents and everything is fine every day, but this managed to crawl, then draw conclusions yourself ...
      1. 0
        18 June 2017 16: 57
        what you wrote does not characterize them. it characterizes you.
        there are people, but there are people
        1. 0
          6 July 2017 00: 06
          And what "characterizes me"?
          I didn’t shoot Iranian A-300 missiles in territorial waters ... Iran!
  12. +2
    18 June 2017 08: 47
    when American ships see a lighthouse ahead they order him to turn away
  13. +33
    18 June 2017 08: 48
    Soboleznuyu of course.
    But an hour ago, such a story happened:
    My wife knows that I read military-political news, and I am very happy when the United States has something wrong. And yesterday, the news with the destroyer was generally delighted.
    So I wake up and see: in front of my eyes sheet A4, and it shows a destroyer knocked out by a container ship, and the inscription: Trippes America! My husband is watching you.
    “It's me, I’ve made one for you.”
    - Faced the ships?
    - No. So far, only POSTER.
    AND THIS "WHILE" frighteningly mesmerizes ...
  14. +6
    18 June 2017 08: 54
    The strange thing is that “so far” they have not found another “Russian trace” in this story, such as the ubiquitous “Russian hackers” intervened in the control system of the Philippine container ship and sent him aboard an American destroyer ... or of the type “an obvious Russian trace is traced here” "just as the event happened after the meeting of the President of the Philippines, Duterte with Putin ... Well, on the other hand, there are no joyful cries of the" nasty "side, the apologists known in VO sect-type, the incident clearly happened after the influence of the" powerful "Khibin" and now the half-crew of the destroyer will be horrified to write off the ship in the nearest port ..... wink
    1. +17
      18 June 2017 08: 56
      But he is. Read above.
    2. +14
      18 June 2017 09: 10
      The Sailors won’t write off. I saw a video (right after a collision in the internet) - there is no panic on board, everything is calm, with feeling, plainly, with the arrangement ... Enough of them cowards inept and worthless to do, normal Sailors ... A worthy opponent .. .
  15. 0
    18 June 2017 09: 12
    The blow fell on the starboard side. According to the rules of the Ministry of Railways, a vessel that sees another vessel on the right when crossing courses must give way. Unless of course it is not sailing, it is not engaged in fishing or is not limited in the ability to maneuver. The captain of the container ship is now a folk hero.
    1. +1
      19 June 2017 11: 45
      Quote: huntsman650
      According to the rules of the Ministry of Railways, a vessel that sees another vessel on the right when crossing courses must give way

      Vessels on the move with other vessels on their right side are required to give way to these other vessels - these rules are not always enforceable ...

      The rules of maritime navigation also mean giving way to large vessels: whose coast can be 2-3 miles to a complete stop, and circulation - 1,5-2 miles.
      I didn’t see the collision diagram, but judging by the reports, the destroyer “cut” the course for a large-tonnage container ship, while I could take measures to actively change course and speed.
      But there is nothing to be said about the navigation of the navigation area - maybe the situation did not allow this - the commission will sort it out.

      Widely debated by skippers and maritime lawyers, the first task sounds like this. The current MPPSS-72 require revision due to factors that do not take into account the conditions of navigation that have changed since their inception (1972). Density of shipping increased.
      Appeared:
      - large vessels, as a result, having worse maneuverability;
      - ships with unusual maneuverability;
      - high-speed vessels.
      http://www.morvesti.ru/tems/detail.php?ID=53312
  16. +7
    18 June 2017 09: 14
    It would be interesting to see what AK-130 or AK-630 would be made of.
    Given that there is no reservation.
    Is it strange that the fans of the “armadillos” on the site did not liven up ?! laughing
    1. PN
      +1
      18 June 2017 09: 39
      Yes, if there wasn’t a dish, but a good old battleship from the Second World War ... I would have gotten off with scratched polish.
      1. +5
        18 June 2017 09: 51
        On the "Peter" and the same type of pilothouse and "much more" are armored.
      2. 0
        18 June 2017 10: 06
        You still remember the battleships: “Tsesarevich” and “Mikas”, but in general it would be interesting to see such a battleship “live”
    2. +11
      18 June 2017 09: 51
      am ... It would be interesting to see: when you are sitting on the toilet in a latrine, and suddenly the space around you begins to decrease sharply, like a point belay
  17. +10
    18 June 2017 09: 18
    They didn’t die in battle with us, well, God is with them - Earth rest in peace. Have served ...
  18. +2
    18 June 2017 09: 31
    This principle has lived at all times: - "Fear the fisherman and the sailor." The watch on the container ship forgot about it for a moment. The destroyer was supposed to yield, according to the rules. Probably asleep, after a show of force against Russia.
    1. +1
      18 June 2017 10: 29
      It’s like in a joke. Accident at the crossroads. One is asked how it happened. You see, I’m a young driver, I thought I’ll slip through. The second one says I’ve been driving for thirty years;
    2. 0
      18 June 2017 12: 24
      You also need to know the mentality of Filipino navigators, they’ll get the hell out of there or do any other maneuver, because the Captain approved the preliminary laying and will not depart a millimeter from the PU (course) line wassat lol Well, if the collision occurred, then both are to blame, and who is more or less - the investigation will show
      1. +5
        18 June 2017 13: 53
        Quote: Captain M
        You also need to know the mentality of Filipino navigators, they’ll get the hell out of there or do any other maneuver, because the Captain approved the preliminary laying and will not depart a millimeter from the PU (course) line


        Do not write nonsense. These stories about Filipinos and magic pencil line, I’ve heard for decades. I now have two owls on the bridge. Turn away and diverge as expected. There are enough fools everywhere.
  19. +3
    18 June 2017 09: 42
    In general, losers are these vaunted Amerian warlords. wassat a container ship is a train on rails. And there’s nothing to butt with him. It’s a pity for the guys - their running watch didn’t ditch the smell of tobacco ...
  20. 0
    18 June 2017 10: 00
    Urgent captains of all warships: as I saw a container ship or cattle breeding, or save yourself or ready for battle.
  21. +8
    18 June 2017 10: 17
    As a sailor, I offer my condolences to the families of the victims. In any situation, stay human.
  22. +4
    18 June 2017 10: 19
    The huge masses of modern ships give no chance even at low speeds of collisions. And the human factor has always been and will be the main cause of accidents.
    Imagine a crane floating near the shore (far from a boat) and at night a tug “poked” into it without seeing any lights or spotlights. I remember exactly that I woke up from the fact that I was lying on the floor near the opposite wall of the cabin. The old Soviet unsupportable TV series ULPTSTI - flew across the entire cockpit. Thick steel girder - just scattered. But to butt with a sea container ship is simply no chance. Sailors may have died instantly from an impact on elements of the internal structure. People are very sorry. And it seems to me that statements other than condolences are not entirely appropriate.
    1. +3
      18 June 2017 12: 14
      And to hell with them, what you went wrong with - sailors, sailors - you need to start condolencing with Christ, who was crucified for no reason ...
      If civilians would die - it’s one thing, and I’ll notice these enemies for us (and they didn’t say it) they play war games, here’s the answer and flew over the BV and the same Philippines, where they killed a lot of people, having spent the first color revolution in history
  23. +5
    18 June 2017 10: 25
    Each American container ship sideways.
    1. 0
      18 June 2017 11: 00
      tiny otvetochka on the ram "Turkish" pig carrier of our "scientific court"
  24. 0
    18 June 2017 10: 59
    a trifle, but nice
  25. 0
    18 June 2017 11: 22
    How he TIME turned up! It is not otherwise that the Filipino leader, in the light of his last statements and actions in relation to the Tan, gave the task to trample the Yankees with all his possible means ...
  26. 0
    18 June 2017 12: 01
    Similar situations are common for US sailors. Often at sea, when meeting ships and even warships, the United States had to maneuver themselves at the risk of a collision (the witness of such meetings himself), since there usually are at least one of the crew absent on the bridge of these ships, the autopilot controls everything. With such discipline in the Navy, such tragic events are not surprising. I very much sympathize with the dead seven sailors in the flooded compartment of the destroyer, who died due to the fault not only of the American crew, but also of the oncoming Filipino container ship, it seems that they went by machine too ...
    1. +4
      18 June 2017 12: 41
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      Similar situations are common for US sailors. Often at sea, when meeting ships and even warships, the United States had to maneuver themselves at the risk of a collision (the witness of such meetings himself), since there usually are at least one of the crew absent on the bridge of these ships, the autopilot controls everything. With such discipline in the Navy, such tragic events are not surprising. I very much sympathize with the dead seven sailors in the flooded compartment of the destroyer, who died due to the fault not only of the American crew, but also of the oncoming Filipino container ship, it seems that they went by machine too ...

      It seems that your knowledge in marine navigation is incredibly very approximate. Even cars in the city do not go on a machine, what can we say about such expensive things as ships. And even more so, the military, the application of innovations in which is very complicated by the traditions of military sailors. Any country. An automatic machine that does not see ahead, from the sides and behind itself, using locators, optical, and other methods of observation. Not equipped with bells of a loud battle in the event of a collision threat. And without a responsible watchman, watching all this complex and diverse economy. Think again. And you will see your mistakes.
      1. 0
        18 June 2017 15: 08
        Sorry, but you have pretty primitive knowledge on this matter ...
        1. +4
          18 June 2017 15: 47
          Quote: vlad.svargin
          Sorry, but you have pretty primitive knowledge on this matter ...


          belay And then what are you ??? The most modern?

          since there are usually no team members on the bridge of these ships, the autopilot controls everything

          When was the last time you were on the bridge to make such statements? I'm half an hour ago.
        2. +1
          18 June 2017 16: 34
          Quote: vlad.svargin
          Sorry, but you have pretty primitive knowledge on this matter ...

          Congratulations. With your best knowledge of the subject, you can run such nonsense ....
          To go on the machine .... It needs to be not just ...... but talented ......
      2. 0
        18 June 2017 15: 30
        The American destroyer USS Fitzgerald returned to the location of the naval base off the coast of Japan, despite serious damage, the channel "Russia 24". The causes of the incident are being investigated. The press suggested that the crew was asleep, instead of following the ship's course.

        In such a similar case, the witness himself, on the navigation bridge, not only on US vessels, but also on some European vessels, especially before dawn, the complete absence of shift. I think the sofa sailor is interested ... And it happens ...
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          1. +1
            19 June 2017 06: 11
            Our exchange is already similar to the bazaar as the Odessa import. I have no desire to argue with the sled. I agree that I didn’t climb the bridge for a long time, but when I was on it you still didn’t exist in the project, and the fact that the US Navy is a lot of gouging is familiar to me, Sorry if I offended you, but unlike you, I think that in addition to gouging always been our enemies ...
            1. 0
              19 June 2017 16: 40
              Quote: vlad.svargin
              Our exchange is already similar to the bazaar as the Odessa import. I have no desire to argue with the sled. I agree that I didn’t climb the bridge for a long time, but when I was on it you still didn’t exist in the project, and the fact that the US Navy is a lot of gouging is familiar to me, Sorry if I offended you, but unlike you, I think that in addition to gouging always been our enemies ...

              I am 70 years old. So, perhaps ....
    2. kig
      0
      19 June 2017 03: 36
      since there are usually no team members on the bridge of these ships, the autopilot controls everything



      Tell me where is the autopilot here. (hint: it really is here).
  27. +2
    18 June 2017 13: 28
    Sorry for the sailors. America, no! They scared Kim Jong-un. To the laugh.
  28. +1
    18 June 2017 14: 19
    Quote: MPK105
    Here you are ........ There, the Sailors died, and the joys here ... Rest in peace in the Kingdom of the Sea

    Quote: MPK105
    ..At Sea BROTHERS ALL

    Quote: MPK105
    normal Sailors ... A worthy adversary.

    Even if you don’t understand, then brothers, then opponents, you have to decide, you didn’t forget to attribute the flowers to the embassy, ​​and if according to the latest polls, almost two thirds of Americans consider our country to be the main threat, according to the latest polls, i.e. in other words, the enemy, it was so, it is, and, unfortunately, most likely it will be so, by the way, from our side it is almost the same, so let's be honest even with ourselves and not pour crocodile tears and snot, in this case enemies have died, even theoretical ones in the future, (God forbid, of course), harshly, inhumanly say yes, but these are realities today, you can’t be weak and compassionate, they will tear a rag like an ace and all the wailing of the so-called “heartbeats” out of place , not the time and the wrong situation.
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  30. +2
    18 June 2017 14: 55
    It is a pity that the trough of the Yankees did not drown at all ....
  31. 0
    18 June 2017 15: 06
    This was a response to the "Liman" attack by a cattle truck under the Togolese flag (on the same starboard side) - Viva la Phillipines bully
  32. +1
    18 June 2017 15: 36
    -7 geissoldat good
  33. +1
    18 June 2017 21: 25
    Quote: Charond
    It is a pity that the trough of the Yankees did not drown at all ....


    At least it will be disabled for a very long time. Even if the Japanese get it patched up, he will still need to go home accompanied by a tugboat to fully repair and diagnose all the systems, it is likely that the weapons, communications and radar systems are seriously damaged. This can take several months , if not years. Still, one must not forget about the bureaucracy, until a full investigation is carried out, no one will be engaged in repair
  34. +1
    18 June 2017 22: 04
    And Us Rat,
    Tens of thousands of musicians, artists, scientists, CHESS of the indicated nationality cut coupons from their activities. If the bastard, who put his nationality above others and demanded privileges, was sent very far away, then this just confirms what I wrote above.
    During his long life he has not met a single welder, turner, plowman with the star of David on his soul. I do not think that this is a sign of the exceptional talent of the nation. Active nonsense. After all, are they present in Israel? Do not aliens create benefits there?
    1. +1
      18 June 2017 23: 52
      During his long life he has not met a single welder, turner, plowman with the star of David on his soul.

      When he worked at the Liepaja metallurgist, he met a Jew with a hot metal carver, though he spoke to himself with a smile - What kind of Jew am I? If I work here.
      1. +2
        19 June 2017 00: 12
        Quote: sharp-lad
        During his long life he has not met a single welder, turner, plowman with the star of David on his soul.

        When he worked at the Liepaja metallurgist, he met a Jew with a hot metal carver, though he spoke to himself with a smile - What kind of Jew am I? If I work here.

        Congratulations, you are incredibly lucky.
        But this Jew was kind of corrupted. He did not recognize himself.
        1. +1
          19 June 2017 21: 28
          Just a normal person! hi
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      19 June 2017 01: 21
      Quote: viktor kurganov
      During his long life he has not met a single welder, turner, plowman with the star of David on his soul.

      Yes, you are not the only person with a selective perception of reality. laughing
      1. During the repatriation of the 90, so many "welders, turners, milling machines, crane operators, tractor drivers" of Jewish nationality came to Israel - that an industrial boom began in the country.
      2. Who do you think Israel built and plowed? Martians? lol Until the end of 60, it was an agrarian country, a kibbutz on a kibbutz.
      3. In Jewish culture - a cult of education, so yes - the relative percentage of "artists, scientists, engineers, doctors, musicians" is higher than the average for the planet. Since when is being educated badly? wassat
      Here, look, a miracle, fellow Jew welder:

      And here is a Jewish plowman fellow :

      1. +1
        19 June 2017 16: 53
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Quote: viktor kurganov
        During his long life he has not met a single welder, turner, plowman with the star of David on his soul.

        Yes, you are not the only person with a selective perception of reality. laughing
        1. During the repatriation of the 90, so many "welders, turners, milling machines, crane operators, tractor drivers" of Jewish nationality came to Israel - that an industrial boom began in the country.
        2. Who do you think Israel built and plowed? Martians? lol Until the end of 60, it was an agrarian country, a kibbutz on a kibbutz.
        3. In Jewish culture - a cult of education, so yes - the relative percentage of "artists, scientists, engineers, doctors, musicians" is higher than the average for the planet. Since when is being educated badly? wassat
        Here, look, a miracle, fellow Jew welder:

        And here is a Jewish plowman fellow :

        Yeah. They didn’t understand what I was talking about Soviet. And just, having switched to Israel, he argued that THERE are all Jewish-quite normal workers. And ours, mostly prokhendei, having received the science that TAM their skill does not pass, were very upset. And, it turns out, TAM has to fight. Despite the color of the diploma. And communication. Is it not from here that a reverse wave surged from Israel to countries that do not border on troubled neighbors? Of the 5 million who arrived, 2 million spat on their historic homeland, decided to hang out around the world, as their ancestors did 2 thousand years?
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          19 June 2017 18: 42
          Quote: viktor kurganov
          Yeah. They didn’t understand what I was talking about Soviet.

          And what about me? request
          1. During the repatriation of the 90, so many "welders, turners, milling machines, crane operators, tractor drivers" of Jewish nationality came to Israel - that an industrial boom began in the country.

          Quote: viktor kurganov
          Of the 5 million who arrived, 2 million spitting on their historic homeland, decided to hang out around the world.

          You have no order with numbers. 1.3 million came from the USSR, fell a little more than 150.000 (they need a way there), these are the very ones - by which you judge the whole nation - 10%. Something tells me that you have the same percentage of "defective goods", but do not judge all of you by them. request Yes, many Israelis work abroad, simply because the labor market in Israel is not rubber, and there are always more graduates than jobs, but many of them send children to grow here (to grandparents). That is, in one way or another they try to have their children grow up as Israelis.
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            19 June 2017 20: 59
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Quote: viktor kurganov
            Yeah. They didn’t understand what I was talking about Soviet.

            And what about me? request
            1. During the repatriation of the 90, so many "welders, turners, milling machines, crane operators, tractor drivers" of Jewish nationality came to Israel - that an industrial boom began in the country.

            Quote: viktor kurganov
            Of the 5 million who arrived, 2 million spitting on their historic homeland, decided to hang out around the world.

            You have no order with numbers. 1.3 million came from the USSR, fell a little more than 150.000 (they need a way there), these are the very ones - by which you judge the whole nation - 10%. Something tells me that you have the same percentage of "defective goods", but do not judge all of you by them. request Yes, many Israelis work abroad, simply because the labor market in Israel is not rubber, and there are always more graduates than jobs, but many of them send children to grow here (to grandparents). That is, in one way or another they try to have their children grow up as Israelis.

            I didn’t have the right to count not only Soviet, but also others who arrived “HOME”? As far as I know, the population of Israel has doubled from the arrivals. The rollback was almost half arrived. And it continues now, although the intensity is low. Who made a mistake - fixed the mistake.
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              19 June 2017 21: 45
              Quote: viktor kurganov
              I didn’t have the right to count not only Soviet, but also others who arrived “HOME”? As far as I know, the population of Israel has doubled from the arrivals. The rollback was almost half arrived ...

              In short, I realized that you are being pinned by an argument for the sake of argument. No.
              Teach the mat part on the topic on which you are trying to discuss, then there will be something to discuss, I can not seriously discuss your stream of consciousness. There were rumors and selflessly carry them. request
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Население_Израиля
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                19 June 2017 23: 39
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Quote: viktor kurganov
                I didn’t have the right to count not only Soviet, but also others who arrived “HOME”? As far as I know, the population of Israel has doubled from the arrivals. The rollback was almost half arrived ...

                In short, I realized that you are being pinned by an argument for the sake of argument. No.
                Teach the mat part on the topic on which you are trying to discuss, then there will be something to discuss, I can not seriously discuss your stream of consciousness. There were rumors and selflessly carry them. request
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Население_Израиля

                What about your diploma? They read or failed, that in 1958 Israel had about 2 million, and now 8,6. Apart from the little things, I'm right. (not about you said).
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                  20 June 2017 01: 55
                  Quote: viktor kurganov
                  ... in the 1958 year, Israel had about 2 millions, and now 8,6 ....

                  In reality, the stream of consciousness, at least you formulate the idea clearly - what are you trying to convey, in one comment you "left", in the other "arrived" ... The meaning is where ??? belay
                  But the main thing is to say - "I'm spinning" ... What is right ??? request
                  1. kig
                    +1
                    20 June 2017 02: 57
                    well, damn it ... again moved to the Jews ... kurganov, but what is it that stuck you? We have almost no them left, even in the EAO, and you all cannot stop.
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                      1. kig
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                        21 June 2017 02: 38
                        Live in the present, think about the future, and 2000 years ... you don’t know exactly what happened 200 years ago, but you were disturbed by such things.
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                    20 June 2017 16: 24
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Quote: viktor kurganov
                    ... in the 1958 year, Israel had about 2 millions, and now 8,6 ....

                    In reality, the stream of consciousness, at least you formulate the idea clearly - what are you trying to convey, in one comment you "left", in the other "arrived" ... The meaning is where ??? belay
                    But the main thing is to say - "I'm spinning" ... What is right ??? request

                    In the redneck of so many who fled.
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                      20 June 2017 18: 53
                      Quote: viktor kurganov
                      In the redneck of so many who fled.

                      And you go out into the street, but look around.
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                        20 June 2017 19: 20
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Quote: viktor kurganov
                        In the redneck of so many who fled.

                        And you go out into the street, but look around.

                        I go. I see. OUR people surround me. What and happy.
  35. +1
    19 June 2017 09: 55
    here you can guys, 7 people were killed, but not overjoyed ...
    condolences.