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On the cause of death of a person after the launch of Soyuz from the Baikonur Cosmodrome

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The representative of the Emergency Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Ruslan Imankulov, reported that the launch from the Baikonur cosmodrome of the Russian Soyuz-2.1 launch vehicle with the Progress MS-06 spacecraft resulted in a tragic incident. According to Imankulov, a man died. Stated that during the launch of the separating part of the launch vehicle when falling to the ground and eventually became the cause of death of a person near Zhezkazgan.

Some details of the incident are reported by the press service of the Kazkosmos company, which is responsible, along with Roscosmos, for launches from the Baikonur cosmodrome. At the same time, the Kazakh side places the responsibility on Russian colleagues.

On the cause of death of a person after the launch of Soyuz from the Baikonur Cosmodrome


Портал "Nur.kz" Quotes Galymzhan Danbayev, deputy chairman of the Aerospace Committee of the Ministry of Defense and Aerospace Industry of Kazakhstan:

Responsibility for the work on the separating parts of the launch vehicle is borne by the Russian enterprise NPO Mashinostroeniya, 1 the center of operation of the drop areas is deployed in Zhezkazgan.


A person died in the steppe as a result of burns. This is an employee of NPO Mashinostroyenia, who participated in extinguishing a fire. According to representatives of the GS Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan and employees of Kazkosmos, a fire broke out as a result of falling into the steppe of hot side parts of the Soyuz-2.1. The fire quickly spread a strong wind. The deceased was the driver of the car "KAMAZ".

Roscosmos comment:
After successfully launching 14 June 2017 of the Soyuz 2-1 launch vehicle with the Progress MS-06 transport cargo vehicle under the ISS program, the RN side units fell in a predetermined fall area at a distance of about 50 kilometers west of Zhezkazgan (The Republic of Kazakhstan). Ground search groups in cooperation with the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Republic of Kazakhstan immediately began work.

Due to adverse weather conditions in the area of ​​falling side blocks (+ 34 degrees, wind with gusts up to 15 m / s), a steppe fire occurred in deserted areas. There is no threat to the population, the fire is localized.

According to the available information, the driver of a KAMAZ vehicle, an employee of AO NPO Mashinostroyenia, died in extinguishing a fire. AO NPO Mashinostroeniya (not part of the State Corporation ROSKOSMOS) is engaged in ensuring the operation of areas of fall. Car KAMAZ flame covered as a result of a particularly strong gust of wind.

ROSKOSMOS expresses condolences to the relatives and friends of the deceased.


In this regard, there are questions about the need to solve the problems of fire safety starts from the Vostochny cosmodrome, surrounded by taiga.
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  1. aleksfill
    aleksfill 15 June 2017 08: 22
    +5
    It is necessary to bring down from Baikonur and Kazakhstan, or to simplify Kazakhstan. East as air is needed.
    1. Monos
      Monos 15 June 2017 08: 43
      +11
      separating parts of the launch vehicle upon falling to the ground and eventually became the cause of death

      Glabzhe, glbzhe dig, Kazakhs! The rocket designer who designed the detachable blocks is to blame! But not fire and someone’s negligence, as some thought. sad
      1. marshes
        marshes 15 June 2017 09: 18
        +5
        Quote: Monos
        Glabzhe, glbzhe dig, Kazakhs! The rocket designer who designed the detachable blocks is to blame! But not fire and someone’s negligence, as some thought.

        But they warned that it is safe for the environment to run in late autumn, winter and early spring.
        1. Zibelew
          Zibelew 15 June 2017 09: 49
          +2
          They would still pick mushrooms under the starting table.
          1. marshes
            marshes 15 June 2017 10: 10
            +3
            Quote: Zibelew
            They would still pick mushrooms under the starting table.

            By the way, Kazakhs do not collect porcini mushrooms in the steppe except yours.
      2. romb
        romb 15 June 2017 09: 43
        +10
        Everything is fine with the designer. But modern crooked, even the old Soviet LV technology cannot normally start.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 15 June 2017 09: 49
          +14
          Dear Bais, forbid this Baikonur! Who needs this cosmos? Live in yurts, it’s quiet and not calm ...
          1. romb
            romb 15 June 2017 09: 55
            +12
            Dear man under a female nickname, we, Kazakhstan, personally, have no benefit from this Baikonir. Some environmental problems. So, if we close it, you will be the first to run into your huts. Moreover, it seems that you are already undergoing this process. Well, you can’t travel all the time to the old technologies of our common homeland.
            1. Varangian
              Varangian 15 June 2017 10: 23
              +5
              need more Russophobia! why so few
              1. romb
                romb 15 June 2017 10: 33
                +12
                I do not have Russophobia. And Kazakhophilia.
                Do you feel the difference?
                At you, at the majority, "Russophobia" seems to be everywhere. Some kind of disease
            2. xetai9977
              xetai9977 15 June 2017 10: 53
              +9
              Dear Kazakh friends! Do not be surprised at the comments mentioning yurts and other attributes. Such is the level of intelligence and consciousness of the authors of these “masterpiece thoughts”. And what percentage of these types are among the total number of users - you never know, or vice versa, they make up the majority. It has long been clear to everyone. Look, as soon as the news is about Turkey or about us, then immediately this contingent magically arises the image of a ripe tomato or a juicy cucumber. looking at an amateur. But it’s not about agricultural topics, but quite military equipment. So do not pay attention. Remember the eastern parable about the caravan that goes ..
            3. Wing
              Wing 15 June 2017 12: 43
              +4
              Actually, it’s not just a benefit, but a direct benefit in the form of attendants for exploitation, and non-sickly ones. Despite the fact that Kazakhstan was far from being built (here you are right, he didn’t see any benefits) and if we run into huts or you close Baikonur, you won’t know what to do with it and you just have to sit and wait when it falls apart so that there remains a bare, dry steppe with a tumbleweed and a camel thorn, as before. But environmentally friendly, yeah.
          2. marshes
            marshes 15 June 2017 10: 33
            +6
            Quote: sabakina
            Live in yurts, it’s quiet and not calm ...

            Sabakin that you have against the yurts, now the rich !!! In their home estates, yurts are installed, apart from others. With condors in summer and a heating system in winter, and other benefits of civilization.
            At the very place there is a yurt, though the truth is that it’s now installed a collapsible pool.
          3. Talgat 148
            Talgat 148 15 June 2017 20: 44
            +2
            We are not in space, I give a yurt !!!
          4. Talgat
            Talgat 16 June 2017 00: 06
            +1
            Quote: sabakina
            Dear Bais, forbid this Baikonur! Who needs this cosmos? Live in yurts, it’s quiet and not calm ...


            Everyone who reads my comments will not let me lie - I am a Soviet person and always stand for the Eurasian idea. for the union and integration of Russia and Kazakhstan. I consider the Russian people close to us both historically and culturally - all according to the precepts of our great Abay, etc.

            but this sabakina is very frustrating of course. if the Russians breed such sabakins then this is a disaster. I don’t even know what to do then
            I understand that after the death of the USSR, all republics received a blow and their mentality and spirituality and level suffered somewhere. Russia has also suffered. There were liberals and Natsik, and here are such sabakins - the trouble of course
    2. romb
      romb 15 June 2017 09: 46
      +10
      A significant part of your space program is in the deepest out. And if you also leave Baikonir, then this program, in fact, can be closed due to uselessness winked
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 15 June 2017 10: 00
        +7
        For 1000 years, we have slurped bast shoes and nothing, not a single adversary has stayed with us for a long time. How long will you last, given your story?
        1. romb
          romb 15 June 2017 10: 04
          +5
          Most interesting, in the care of these "adversaries" your merit is virtually nonexistent. Their departure was most often associated with their internal problems - of an ethnosocial, military and other nature. wink
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 15 June 2017 10: 08
            +7
            Quote: romb
            The most interesting, in leaving these "adversaries" of your merit, practically not. Their departure was most often associated with their internal problems of an ethnosocial, military, and other nature. wink
            Bravo! Bravissimo !!! burn on!
            1. romb
              romb 15 June 2017 10: 12
              +5
              Your already annealed. Recently. Two people were injured. One of them died. The second is in a difficult position.
              So, demal wink
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 15 June 2017 10: 12
            +10
            Sorry, now they said stupidity, this one:
            in the care of these "adversaries" your merit is virtually nonexistent. Their departure was most often associated with their internal problems - of an ethnosocial, military and other nature.
            1. romb
              romb 15 June 2017 10: 14
              +3
              Think so feel
              Sorry then.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 15 June 2017 10: 16
                +10
                This is not what I think, history, facts. If it’s possible to “argue” with history, “redo it for yourself” (non-brothers are an example), then it is difficult to deal with facts.
          3. SOF
            SOF 15 June 2017 10: 19
            +5
            Quote: romb
            Most interesting, in the care of these "adversaries" your merit is virtually nonexistent. Their departure was most often associated with their internal problems - of an ethnosocial, military and other nature. wink

            moot point. Well, sooooo controversial. As you are still a frost general in the causes of the defeat of all the adversaries are not entangled - the mind is incomprehensible. That’s your ancestors, who fell near Moscow in the 41st, would be surprised.
            Or are you digging much deeper, in a century like that 12-13 ??? And there, too, everything is ambiguous.
            And in general, if there is no desire to measure oneself, why should such provocations be done in response to not very clever statements of other provocateurs? Be smarter.
            Sometimes silence is gold.
            1. romb
              romb 15 June 2017 10: 23
              +7
              So it was not I who began to write about yurts, thousand-year-old bast shoes and adversaries.
              As a result, I can say that you are not addressing.
              And secondly, I don’t have time to engage in discussions on such issues.
              You force me to repeat myself: this is not the point of the article.
              1. SOF
                SOF 15 June 2017 10: 28
                +3
                did you seriously hope that by touching on this topic you can self-alleviate so easily? In vain.
                About yurts and bast shoes - stupid people write. But do not peel, because of this, according to a common story with an ax.
                1. romb
                  romb 15 June 2017 10: 40
                  +6
                  What do you think: I am very worried that some natsik in central Russia will write about me? For me, this is just fun and nothing more.
                  And also, please, do not try to teach people explaining what is stupid and what is not.
                  1. SOF
                    SOF 15 June 2017 10: 54
                    +4
                    Do you keep climbing into the bottle? To each his own.
                    And in more detail it is possible that:
                    1. What is fun for you and nothing more? And then somehow it turns out ambiguously. Whether it’s fun to troll, or pleasure to engage in skirmishes with others.
                    2.About yurts and bast shoes is not stupid? Or is the mere fact that you were shown stupidity an insult?
                    3. "Yours have already been annealed. Recently. Two people were injured. One of them died. The second is in a difficult situation" - who are you? These are those who are not YOURS? The shores are more specific.
                    4. "A significant part of your space program is in the deepest out. And if you leave Baikonyr as well, then this program, in fact, can be closed due to uselessness." It is from what such sources "scooped"? And you did not have the thought that the East began to build because of people like you, because:
                    “Everything is fine with the designer. But the modern ones are crooked, even the old Soviet LV technology cannot start normally.” - TOO loud statement, clearly indicating that we have something hands do not grow from there.
                    ..... it was to this your first remark about yurts that you got into.
                    To each his own. Keep climbing into the bottle.
                    1. romb
                      romb 15 June 2017 11: 44
                      +6
                      Well, persuaded. So be it, I will answer your questions. Just dope, do not try to troll with a smart look anymore. You do it - boring, and in some ways even stupid.
                      1. Of course, fun. I’m not crazy to take seriously all this high p, which is the product of the average Russian Natsik.
                      2. But here it is not understood what they wanted to say. Trace your logical chain. Therefore, I ask a counter-question: Is the current space program of the Russian Federation NOT IN CRISIS? I am wrong? Who just did not speak and did not write about it. Even on this site there was a lot of discussion. And not to admit this is the main manifestation of stupidity. Isn't that obvious. So, stupidity is not to admit the obvious. If the Russian Federation does not make a real restructuring of this industry, then obviously - the hut will be just around the corner
                      3. Again .. You take the trouble to read the article. And if you do not understand, then again, so to speak for the stupid: Russia launched the rocket. Russia is YOURS. Launched from a cosmodrome located in Kazakhstan - this is our land. The fire extinguishing was handled by the NGO Engineering, which is a Russian organization. Do you understand now? If you still do not understand, then re-read this item again.
                      4. And where am I wrong here. We admit that East was and remains the wet dream of such ambitious, but divorced from reality, entities similar to you. And how many launches have passed there and how many are planned for the present year ??? To put it mildly, and why is the "spaceport" still so fully functioning and not functioning? I'm really curious.
                      So who else should ulcerate here. To ruin everything that our common homeland has left behind is to be able to still be able to. Today, Roscosmos has only pathos built on the successes and developments of another state - the USSR. And how much has already been promised. And for that matter, you don’t even have to ulcerate about your cause, but simply regret it. So, the new president of Kazakhstan will take and close the Soviet spaceport and what will you do then? You can’t fly far on some invented show-offs.
                      1. SOF
                        SOF 15 June 2017 12: 26
                        +5
                        Uhhh you ... Well, glory to all the gods, the most intelligent creature has descended to me - answered. Yes, even as the answer, it was just washed. I'm going to dry. The questions, however, were rhetorical, but it had to be signed, right?
                        I will correct a little - the inaction of the East is the wet dreams of subjects like you who are divorced from reality. Do not worry - it will work. Money, just not small, and to build a spaceport is not a bayterek to build, but otherwise everything will be fine. And then you can close the Soviet spaceport. And what? There, after all, the area is large, you can use it for pasture or put it under the virgin land. Overpower virgin soil?
                        This smiled especially: "obviously - the hut will be just around the corner." Yes Yes. This is when you are driving along the Astana highway and you are observing the hammered villages in a monolithic steel fence. Lyapota ... Only here is some kind of crap - I know that behind the fence, because I have repeatedly seen the whole landscape without embellishment before it, the fence, the appearance. The yurt is not there yet - it’s true, but what grandmother told about the space program is true, but not quite. This is because the problems in both you and us are above the roof. Only I was silent about yours until the last, although I can tell quite a lot.
                        Z.Y. rhetorical questions. It’s not worth answering - the voice of one crying from the bottom of the bottle is not interesting.
        2. romb
          romb 15 June 2017 10: 06
          +3
          Let us not be measured in this topic by any kind of historical virtues. This article is not the point.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 15 June 2017 10: 18
            +4
            The point is not in the article, but in your words, we did not pull them out of you with ticks. And as you know, the word is not a sparrow, fly out, you will not catch. I even had a cartoon script born about your "your merit is virtually nonexistent." Sorry, I do not know how to do ... And your dignity ...
            1. romb
              romb 15 June 2017 10: 25
              +2
              Are you definitely not a woman? love And then, I already had suspicions.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 15 June 2017 10: 26
                +3
                Suspicions are good for a scout. For a normal person, this threatens to turn into paranoia.
                1. romb
                  romb 15 June 2017 10: 36
                  +6
                  Judging from your own experience ?. My regrets
                  That's right, around enemies, reconnaissance))
      2. Wing
        Wing 15 June 2017 12: 50
        +4
        The deepest out allows you to take first place in the world in the number of launches. And at the same time take companions to the ISS comrades without outs in striped suits .;)
        Baikonur is convenient, no doubt, but the wedge on it, in fact, did not converge. Well, we’ll leave, and the fate of the Pavlodar Tractor, which "here it was - and no ..." will befall him. Talk about the benefits?
        1. Walanin
          Walanin 16 June 2017 13: 57
          +1
          Quote: Kanat
          The deepest out allows you to take first place in the world in the number of launches.

          Russia no longer ranks first in the world. And even out of the three already flew. Now we are competing with the great space power Japan.
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 15 June 2017 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: aleksfill
      It is necessary to bring down from Baikonur and Kazakhstan, or to simplify Kazakhstan. East as air is needed.

      Have you already decided on issues with possible fires in the taiga?
      Taiga is not a steppe, wherever I want ....
    4. Talgat 148
      Talgat 148 15 June 2017 20: 34
      +3
      That's right, bring down !!! Ecology will be cleaner!
  2. hrych
    hrych 15 June 2017 08: 23
    +2
    It happens ... what will you do now
  3. DEPARTMENT
    DEPARTMENT 15 June 2017 08: 23
    +6
    My condolences to the relatives of the deceased ..! I hope this does not happen again and this is a very serious problem .. Why weather conditions were not taken into account, etc. So you can burn everything.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 15 June 2017 09: 51
      +4
      Vital, in space affairs there is such a thing as a “window” when a rocket can be put into orbit.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 15 June 2017 10: 23
        +5
        Quote: sabakina
        Vital, in space affairs there is such a thing as a “window” when a rocket can be put into orbit.

        Yes you are right of course ..! If you listen to the Kazakhs, then there won’t be any launches .. Typically, the herd of sheep got lost and stop the rocket launch ..)))) They didn’t collect the yurt, etc. And you’ll have to pay a lot of money ..
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 15 June 2017 10: 32
          +2
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Like a herd of sheep got lost and stop the rocket launch ... they didn’t collect the yurt, etc.
          Vital, right now the Kazakhs will kick you for such words!
          Let's move on to you. I do not like to stick out, as at a reception at the queen ...
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 15 June 2017 10: 47
            +4
            Quote: sabakina
            Vital, right now the Kazakhs will kick you for such words!

            They are already used to it, and I’m not from evil, I have Kazakh friends ..))) I know their spiritual dreams well .. laughing
            Quote: sabakina
            Let's move on to you. I do not like to stick out, as at a reception at the queen ...

            Come on sabakin on YOU! I’m always for it .. (we’ve just been brought up, that’s constantly slipping ..))) hi
        2. marshes
          marshes 15 June 2017 10: 53
          +2
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Yes you are right of course ..! If you listen to the Kazakhs, then there won’t be any launches .. Typically, the herd of sheep got lost and stop the rocket launch ..)))) They didn’t collect the yurt, etc. And you’ll have to pay a lot of money ..

          Vitalik, what happened to you next door? In the Saratov region, they say, local Kazakhs Kurds smashed as much as riot police called on 13th of this month.
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 15 June 2017 11: 20
            +4
            Quote: marshes
            In the Saratov region, they say local Kazakhs Kurds smashed as much as riot police

            Well done! You know the swamps, I’ll tear everyone for the Kazakhs! hi But some Bay, personally would have shot from the Mauser ..! soldier (joke of course ..))))
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          2. Zalym
            Zalym 16 June 2017 21: 19
            +1
            Over the past few days, additional police units have been on duty at the security checkpoint on the border with Kazakhstan in the Ozinsky district of the Saratov region. This was reported by the source at the Center for Combating Extremism of the Regional Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Center for Medialix 64. + As a police insider said, riot police and additional traffic police units were pulled to the border. The reason for this was a series of clashes between ethnic Kazakhs and Kurds living in the region. “The Kurds have organized a profitable business of transporting Uzbek citizens across the border, who need to put a mark on the border crossing in their passports. Using tackles, they crossed the post, passing the line. This was not liked by the Kazakhs, who were outraged by the "impudence" of the Kurds and the corruption of officials. At a certain moment, the dull discontent caused by the long wait for their turn grew into a fight. As a result of the scuffle, Kurdish vehicles were seriously damaged. In order to calm the brawlers and ensure order at the border, it was necessary to call for reinforcements in the form of additional police units. Currently, tension in the Ozinsky district remains, ”said the source of our publication. In the office of the chief federal inspector for the Saratov region, Marina Aleshina, where the Center for Medialix 64 asked for comment, they said that the GPI was aware of the situation in the Ozinsky district. According to her, explained in the apparatus of a federal official, "all competent bodies, including law enforcement agencies, including state security agencies" are working.

            http://www.medialeaks64.com/news/iz-za-stolknoven
            iy-kurdov-i-kazahov-v-ozinskiy-rayon-styanut-omon
            # hcq = ZNRKJmq
  4. John_f
    John_f 15 June 2017 08: 25
    +2
    I'm not a cynic, but I'm a little surprised that in the steppes of Kazakhstan this is the first case (or maybe not the first) in any case they will not tell us the whole truth, one hope that the relatives of the deceased will be paid compensation ...
  5. romandostalo
    romandostalo 15 June 2017 08: 27
    +4
    Indeed, the steppe fire is a terrible thing. But why bother with some sort of interagency squabbles with accusations?
    1. cost
      cost 15 June 2017 08: 34
      +2
      Kismet .... My condolences to the relatives of the deceased ..!
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 15 June 2017 08: 28
    +4
    Anything can happen ... it is not possible to foresee all the risks ... there is even the likelihood of falling fragments of the stages of a carrier rocket on a person ... BUT it is negligible ... no conclusions should be drawn from a separate tragedy ...
    this is a safety incident
  7. Rabinovich_007
    Rabinovich_007 15 June 2017 08: 34
    +1
    Well, so these blanks always fell anywhere, as I understand it, no one makes calculations of which part will fall. All at random.

    In general, why they do not launch in Russia. There is more land where no one lives, maybe safer.
    1. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 15 June 2017 08: 41
      +26
      No, not anywhere. Parts fell into the design area of ​​the fall. There is a deserted steppe, no one lives. The deceased was in the area due to official necessity, his organization is precisely engaged in the collection of fallen rocket carrier parts.

      The man did not take care, the danger did not calculate correctly. I myself was in the steppe during the fires ... the situation is changing very rapidly, you stand, you don’t feel any danger, after a few minutes you notice it fell in your direction, but everything seems far and safe. However, in minutes you have only a few tens of seconds to start the car and get away from the fire. He yawned a little and fell under the flame. The steppe fire is a very insidious thing ...
      1. Rabinovich_007
        Rabinovich_007 15 June 2017 08: 43
        0
        Thanks for explaining.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 15 June 2017 09: 11
          +10
          Quote: Rabinovich_007
          Thanks for explaining.

          It was possible to read the article.
      2. k174oun7
        k174oun7 15 June 2017 09: 02
        +6
        There is no one to surprise with the steppe fires. Most steppes burn with arson. Especially in spring, shepherds set fire to dead wood so that grass grows better afterwards. Had to see grandiose steppe fires, especially if the wind blew. No one extinguished them especially if the fire did not threaten technical positions. Attendants at the "objects" were instructed to monitor their distribution and report for action when the fire went on the "objects" themselves. Fire during rocket firing was relatively rare. All those who served then had the experience of extinguishing steppe fires. When extinguishing the main rule - do not stand in the way of fire, carcasses from the rear. In this case, when a person unfortunately died from burns, this is not the reason, but the result of stupid leadership or inexperience.
      3. Daemonicus
        Daemonicus 16 June 2017 03: 16
        0
        There is a video from the fire in Transbaikalia in 2015, there, too, people did not have time to leave on time, were surrounded on all sides by fire. Break through the fire already on the highway.
    2. Hellraiser
      Hellraiser 15 June 2017 08: 42
      +3
      How not enough cons! For such commentators.
    3. andj61
      andj61 15 June 2017 08: 44
      +3
      Quote: Rabinovich_007
      Well, so these blanks always fell anywhere, as I understand it, no one makes calculations of which part will fall. All at random.

      Why is this at random? what Where did the people and the fire fighting equipment come from then?
      The calculations were made long ago, after the start, the scattering ellipse of the falling parts is actively monitored, and if necessary, appropriate forces and means are sent there. Everything, as it was now. But the grass is dry, strong winds, perhaps in some way deviation from safety standards led to tragedy. With the elimination of fires, this happens ..
      Quote: Rabinovich_007
      In general, why they do not launch in Russia. There is more land where no one lives, maybe safer.

      A spaceport was also built in Russia. But in Kazakhstan, the largest "set" of launching tables is energetically more profitable than in the East and, especially, Plesetsk, or in other places - Cap. Yare and Yasnoy.
  8. Barakuda
    Barakuda 15 June 2017 08: 36
    +1
    Seriously ? Yes, for 25 years, the true reason will not be revealed to anyone.
    Well, if the Russian - Slavs will not stay there - they will run away, jo n, there will be Kazakhstan. Prezik Nazarbayev is clearly not in the subject, or vice versa. .
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 15 June 2017 11: 00
      +1
      Quote: Barracuda
      , jo n, na Kazakhstan will be. Prezik Nazarbayev is clearly not in the subject, or vice versa. .

      let's not even touch the RK in our grievances ...
      Along with RB, they are our last friends on this planet of partners ...
    2. Talgat 148
      Talgat 148 15 June 2017 20: 42
      +1
      We have heard such nonsense since 1991! Chet nothing zh.op, do not come!
  9. Andrewgross
    Andrewgross 15 June 2017 08: 40
    +9
    "The death of a person in the steppe occurred as a result of burns to an employee of the NPO Mashinostroyeniya who was involved in putting out the fire." Does the author have a Russian language that is not native? Well, you write: "An employee of the Reutov Military-Industrial Complex," NPO Mashinostroyeniya, "died while fighting a steppe fire!" Editors, well, read the posted materials!
  10. DenZ
    DenZ 15 June 2017 08: 44
    +1
    "In this regard, questions arise about the need to solve the fire safety problems of launches from the Vostochny Cosmodrome, surrounded by taiga." And earlier it’s interesting, they didn’t ask such a question? The taiga burns every year and it is impossible to guess that from the fall of the steps the fire hazard will increase significantly.
  11. Topotun
    Topotun 15 June 2017 09: 03
    +1
    It is strange, as I understood from the article, that an employee of the organization, which provided the launch, died. In terms of servicing the area around the launch. and as I understand it is their DUTY to extinguish fires, collect blocks. This is not the first start. And as I understand it, Roskosmos pays MONEY for this. Those. killed a person doing his job. It’s a pity, but what does Russia have to do with it?
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 15 June 2017 09: 19
      +1
      And what does Kazakhstan have to do with it? You ask rhetorical questions and are not true in essence. It's not the country that is to blame, but the circumstances that caused the death of a person. It is not clear who he was a citizen of Kazakhstan or Russia. In any, absolutely, case, he died performing their duties and to say that some country is to blame is simply incorrect.
      1. Topotun
        Topotun 15 June 2017 09: 23
        +2
        This is exactly what I wanted to say. Here it is rather necessary to talk about the incorrect organization of work. Or about unforeseen circumstances. It is difficult to say what happened under the article. I myself have not seen the steppe fire, but they say a VERY serious thing.
  12. Old26
    Old26 15 June 2017 10: 22
    0
    Quote: Rabinovich_007
    Well, so these blanks always fell anywhere, as I understand it, no one makes calculations of which part will fall. All at random.
    In general, why they do not launch in Russia. There is more land where no one lives, maybe safer.

    Fall in certain places. Fragment areas are clearly delineated. This is most often an ellipse. There are they in Kazakhstan, there are in Russia
    And in Russia they launch. From Plesetsk in particular. Zoa fall - only in Russia. They used to let KapYar before, now sometimes from Yasnoy.

    Quote: DenZ
    "In this regard, questions arise about the need to solve the fire safety problems of launches from the Vostochny Cosmodrome, surrounded by taiga." And earlier it’s interesting, they didn’t ask such a question? The taiga burns every year and it is impossible to guess that from the fall of the steps the fire hazard will increase significantly.

    Someone just lobbied the construction site of the cosmodrome on the site of the former Svobodny cosmodrome. Motivating that all this will be cheaper. Just as the "Free" was built in the positional area of ​​the missile division
    After all, there were other offers. In particular, as far as I remember, the Nakhodka district was offered an alternative construction site. There would be no problems with the taiga
    1. Letnab
      Letnab 15 June 2017 16: 01
      +1
      Quote:In this regard, there are questions about the need to solve the problems of fire safety starts from the Vostochny cosmodrome, surrounded by taiga.
      [b] [/ b] At the first launch from Vostochny, we were engaged in the search and export of side blocks. They fell in the settlement area, but before the launch, they had to deal with the export of gold mining workers from the fall zone for several days, and then they were brought back after the launch.
      Since our main job is to extinguish forest fires, as a specialist I will say this, during launches from spring to autumn (snowfall), fires in the fall zone will burn constantly. The terrain is difficult to access there, dry thunderstorms often pass in the summer, which also causes fires, and dry mosses and lichens flare up like gunpowder from any spark. Based on the first experience, not all blocks can be found, in the summer the forest hides the ground, and if the block does not set fire to the forest, then the search will be delayed ... I personally suggested that the Amur Region Forestry Administration think about creating a separate fire brigade to extinguish fires, the area, but so far there is no movement ... According to the contract with Roscosmos, trained people with fire fighting equipment should be present on the search helicopter, but given the speed of fire spreading in that area, this will be useless ... because this is not enough, an integrated approach to the problem will be required there .
  13. Catherine II
    Catherine II 15 June 2017 11: 02
    +2
    I am sorry for the family .. a tragic accident ..
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 15 June 2017 13: 24
      +4
      Quote: Catherine II
      I am sorry for the family .. a tragic accident ..

      In principle, all 60 comments should be like that, but the first comments were written by stupid Russians (or maybe too smart) and the mutual holivar went. On the topic is most likely a tragic accident and condolences to the family.
      1. marshes
        marshes 15 June 2017 13: 45
        +1
        Quote: Semurg
        On the topic is most likely a tragic accident and condolences to the family.

        Yes, something infa passes accelerating blocks 250 km did not reach the expected place of fall, but at Pali it was 25 km from Zhezkazgan near Talap.
      2. SOF
        SOF 15 June 2017 13: 48
        +1
        support
  14. Dead duck
    Dead duck 15 June 2017 11: 13
    +5
    fell in a given area of ​​fall at a distance of about 50 kilometers west

    Is this territory also rented? or should Kazakhstan only receive money?

    KamAZ car flames as a result of a particularly strong gust of wind

    Did we wind too and made the driver go into the fire?
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 15 June 2017 13: 26
      +2
      It’s time for grandfather to think about the eternal, and he’s all about the mercantile, have they not overpaid laughing
      1. Dead duck
        Dead duck 15 June 2017 13: 30
        +5
        What are you talking about? ... Something was paid to someone and a service was not provided?
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 15 June 2017 14: 02
          +2
          The disease itself is primarily remembered by the disease laughing
          1. Dead duck
            Dead duck 15 June 2017 14: 45
            +5
            Laughter "with oneself" hidden humor not subject to everyone?
            Say what I wanted? ... like a joker and a wit self-taught?
  15. Wing
    Wing 15 June 2017 12: 55
    0
    Quote: romb
    What do you think: I am very worried that some natsik in central Russia will write about me? For me, this is just fun and nothing more.
    And also, please, do not try to teach people explaining what is stupid and what is not.

    Lucky you don't know what a Natsik is. It can be seen that there is no grandfather.
    Foolish to teach, yes, a futile lesson, even if there is no hope of filling the pot with brains.
  16. Wing
    Wing 15 June 2017 13: 02
    0
    Quote: Rabinovich_007
    Well, so these blanks always fell anywhere, as I understand it, no one makes calculations of which part will fall. All at random.
    Apparently, SO understand.: D
  17. Green Chukotka
    Green Chukotka 15 June 2017 19: 53
    0
    Quote: romb
    A significant part of your space program is in the deepest out. And if you also leave Baikonir, then this program, in fact, can be closed due to uselessness winked

    wait a bit, rest and you (s)
  18. Talgat 148
    Talgat 148 15 June 2017 20: 47
    0
    SOF,
    Radish!
    1. SOF
      SOF 16 June 2017 06: 22
      +1
      it happens sometimes hi
  19. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 16 June 2017 09: 33
    +1
    I read the comments. I am perplexed: where did so many grievances accumulate? What did the Kazakhs do so bad to Russians and vice versa? I suspect that these are the consequences of seeing the world only in the monitor screen.
    Dear sofa warriors! Finally, break away from your gadgets and see the world with your own eyes! Chat with people live! And then you cease to carry all kinds of nonsense about something that you don’t understand at all ...
  20. 72jora72
    72jora72 16 June 2017 13: 42
    0
    Quote: romb
    A significant part of your space program is in the deepest out. And if you also leave Baikonir, then this program, in fact, can be closed due to uselessness winked

    These are your wet dreams, go have a drink koumiss, cool .....
  21. 72jora72
    72jora72 16 June 2017 13: 44
    0
    Quote: romb
    Think so feel
    Sorry then.

    Well then, I'm sorry sick.