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In the US, upgraded unguided rocket HYDRA 70, adopted in 1948 year

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The US Department of Defense ordered a batch of APKWS missiles worth over $ 180 million from BAE Systems, reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal airrecognition.com. APKWS is a modernized version of the HYDRA 70 unguided rocket, which entered service with the American army back in 1948 year. In the course of finalizing the ammunition received laser sensors and rotary blades, designed for precise targeting. APKWS differs from the HYDRA 70 guidance module, which is screwed between the warhead and the rocket engine.



Rocket APKWS


The contract description states that laser-guided missiles are necessary to "meet the growing needs of the United States and international demand." According to Rachel Gill, head of Precision Guidance Solutions at BAE Systems, APKWS is in high demand, since these missiles are fully compatible with the HYDRA 70 launchers and are the most affordable high-precision ammunition (the cost of one missile is estimated at $ 10 000).

With the advent of APKWS, the US military got what they lacked for a long time - cheap small-caliber guided missiles. One standard launcher for HYDRA 70 / APKWS missiles holds 19 ammunition and weighs 225 kg, while most combat aircraft models can carry launchers using 2 – 4 (thus, a helicopter or an aircraft can hit dozens of ground targets on its own).

The modernization of the HYDRA 70 missiles took place in two stages: in 1996, the US Department of Defense ordered General Dynamics to the system to convert unguided missiles into guided ones, but in 2005, the program was minimized due to the inadequacy of the prototype to the army requirements. Later, the project was resumed with a new contractor, BAE Systems, which “created” the APKWS rocket, which came into service with the US Navy in 2012, and later other military structures.

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  1. soroKING
    soroKING 13 June 2017 16: 20 New
    +1
    10 thalers cheap? recourse
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 16: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: soroKING
      10 thalers cheap? recourse

      By their standards - apparently, yes. Another thing is interesting - not a word about the cost of the original HYDRA 70 in the article. wink
      1. Monos
        Monos 13 June 2017 16: 51 New
        +5
        A.merikosy switch to the economy class? Or are they just preparing for a large-scale war with a large expenditure of ammunition?
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 16: 55 New
          +5
          Vitya, the article says:
          laser-guided missiles are needed to "meet the growing demands of the US and international demand"

          And everyone understands this, depending on the degree of their own paranoia.
          1. cniza
            cniza 13 June 2017 17: 10 New
            +5
            But what is there to understand - they are getting ready, and especially not hiding it.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 17: 13 New
              +4
              I had no doubt, Vitya, that our paranoia and I go nostril to nostril.
              1. cniza
                cniza 13 June 2017 17: 18 New
                +3
                The main thing is that we are ready, first of all morally, "we will butt, but in the third territories, but in fact already ...
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 17: 19 New
                  +4
                  Quote: cniza
                  yes essentially already ...

                  Tooting .
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 13 June 2017 17: 24 New
                    +3
                    I wouldn’t want to, but soon we can "rest against" our foreheads.
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 17: 26 New
                      +4
                      The mattresses are afraid of converging in a fair fight, they are used to raking all the heat with the wrong hands.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 13 June 2017 17: 29 New
                        +3
                        But then everyone will understand what they are worth. Life says that we will still be together with them, against a common enemy and stepping over ourselves, we will take this step.
                      2. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 June 2017 17: 44 New
                        +1
                        Have you been afraid of it for a long time? Who are they afraid of? Maybe they just use their heads after Vietnam, where an American soldier proved himself to be a staunch and brave fighter!
                    2. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 17: 39 New
                      +4
                      Quote: cniza
                      Life says that we will still be together with them, against a common enemy and stepping over ourselves, we will take this step.

                      I would not want to step on the same rake again ...
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 13 June 2017 17: 48 New
                        +3
                        Nobody wants to, but for the sake of saving people's lives, it seems we’ll go.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 June 2017 17: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Monos
          A.merikosy switch to the economy class?

          Nearly. I read that they have problems with the production of the Helfaers, even practical ones had to be cut into combat ones.
          Too high consumption despite the fact that the capacity for their production was almost doubled, and with the money of the US Defense Ministry.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 13 June 2017 17: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            Nearly. I read that they have problems with the production of the Helfaers, even practical ones had to be cut into combat ones.

            So ... when the cost of ammunition is several times higher than the cost of the destroyed target - it is no wonder that financial difficulties begin.
            All WTO arsenals are good against an organized state - with critical infrastructure, with expensive but few military equipment, with a rigid management structure, etc. And when there is no infrastructure, there is practically no industry, several new ones immediately take the place of the killed leader, the enemy’s equipment is practically free for him (for trophies), and the attacks resemble a zerg rush (on Toyota) - here is the WTO, which strikes a squirrel in the eye on the other side of the ball, just powerless. For it’s all the same as trying to stop the wave of lemmings from the “barrel”. smile
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 13 June 2017 18: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexey RA
              yuk ... when the cost of ammunition is several times higher than the cost of destroying the target - it is no wonder that financial difficulties begin.

              It’s not finances, it’s like under the USSR there is a deficit. It seems there is money, but there is not enough sausage at all. And on himself, and above all, on the allies. Look, the Iraqis, according to various sources, the Sesna Combat Caravan airplanes, at the very beginning of the confrontation with ISIS, managed to shoot a reserve of 300 with kopecks of Helfaers.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 13 June 2017 18: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                It’s not finances, it’s like under the USSR there is a deficit.

                So the deficit ultimately rests on finances. Saved on the "power reserve" of production (why lay in advance the excess productivity of lines that do not generate income) - get an excess of expense over revenue. smile

                And yet, to shoot ATGMs for 100 kilograms of green for free (for terrorists) targets - I am afraid that even the US economy will not be able to withstand this.
              2. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 13 June 2017 21: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                managed to stock up 300 with kopecks of “Helfaers” to shoot.

                and what is there to manage?
                the button pressed further the rocket itself flew
          2. opus
            opus 13 June 2017 18: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            I read that they have problems with the production of Helfaers.

            no problems with production
            with cost there is US $ 95,000- US $ 110,000 9on 2015)


            m / y 6600 and 8000 will be riveted in 2018

            ====
            Although I don’t understand what the dream of Javelin Poroshenko is shrinking
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 June 2017 08: 21 New
              0
              From a good life, "practice" is not altered from warehouses to military ones.
        3. warriordima
          warriordima 13 June 2017 18: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Monos
          A.merikosy switch to the economy class? Or are they just preparing for a large-scale war with a large expenditure of ammunition?

          Rather, on the contrary, they get hungry that it would be cheaper for the Baboons to drive through the desert.
        4. Yarhann
          Yarhann 13 June 2017 20: 24 New
          +1
          modern wars and wars of the future are local conflicts of low intensity between non-governmental armed groups. Fighting or even supporting such groups with the modern WTO is very expensive - with this approach it turns out that the military machine of a modern, well-equipped army will run out of resources faster than the enemy. And given the infinite continuation in time of many local conflicts, the proser dough comes out simply astronomical, while the profit from each controlled Papuan is reduced - that is, the profit is minimized.
          In this case, it is necessary to understand the weapon for the US corporation as a means of production - that is, receiving profit. By reducing the cost of the means of production, they increase profit, that's all.
          Economy citizens and do not forget that the United States is one of the most corporate forms of statehood. By the way, the Russian Federation is developing in much the same way as China. And for global multinational corporations as non-cool, the main profit. That is why the EU is doomed to death - without their own projection of power, they are more like a huckster in the bazaar which everyone wants to put on.
      2. opus
        opus 13 June 2017 18: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        not a word about the cost of the original HYDRA 70 in the article

        In FY 2014, the Hydra-70 M255A1 Flechette unit cost about $ 1,548, and the Hydra-70 M151 HEPD = $ 1,273 / piece.
        / I bought it at that price /
        FY 2014 DoD Program (Army only): Procurement funds in the amount of $ 165.5 million will purchase approximately 99,922 rockets.

        165,5 mil: 99 922 =
      3. Gogia
        Gogia 14 June 2017 21: 42 New
        0
        It is very cheap, especially when compared with the price of the target. Underestimating the “partners” is the greatest nonsense. They have the highest technology and science too. We would also do well to do such things for hail, hurricanes, etc. as well as for aviation-type NURS units.
        But it’s very difficult for us to do this due to the lack of those same technologies ... Everything turns out too big.
        To my great regret.
    2. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 13 June 2017 16: 27 New
      +1
      It seems that they have played enough with high-precision and expensive systems. We need real and cheap means of struggle - they have a budget and not a rubber one.
    3. strannik1985
      strannik1985 13 June 2017 16: 40 New
      +2
      AGM-114R in 2012 cost 94 thousand dollars.
    4. opus
      opus 13 June 2017 17: 21 New
      +1
      BOPS costs the same amount (for Merkava, anyway)
      And I remember 80: a shot from the BMP-2 = women's winter boots flew away (pair)
      T.ch. $ 10000 per ur is fabulously cheap
      1. soroKING
        soroKING 13 June 2017 17: 25 New
        0
        in xnumx shot d-xnumx pair of kirzachs hi
        1. opus
          opus 13 June 2017 18: 37 New
          0
          Quote: soroKING
          in xnumx shot d-xnumx pair of kirzachs

          my elder brother told me. I was still small.
          2A42 is still not an old lady of D-30
    5. jonhr
      jonhr 13 June 2017 18: 34 New
      0
      it's like 10000 rubles you have
    6. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 13 June 2017 21: 11 New
      0
      Quote: soroKING
      10 thalers cheap? recourse

      for managed very
      land management with wire management cost more
    7. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 13 June 2017 22: 26 New
      +2
      About 30 years ago, they had an episode of the purchase by the Ministry of Defense of lids for toilets at $ 8000 apiece.
      How much is it now, taking into account inflation, I’m lost in conjecture ... Probably, a dozen such missiles would be enough.
  2. MoJloT
    MoJloT 13 June 2017 16: 20 New
    +3
    Well done, head where you need it, hands from the right place + know how to count ...
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 13 June 2017 16: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: MoJloT
      Well done, head where you need it, hands from the right place + know how to count ...

      Well, I don’t know what kind of fellow they are, but in my opinion the modernization of missiles, which over 70 years raises questions.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 June 2017 16: 41 New
        +4
        It’s not always worth spending a full Helfair on a Toyota Tank.

        By the way, there are a lot of projects for converting Hydr to semi-active laser fuels and lubricants. And American (at least two), and Israeli, and European.
        And personally, the BAE Systems project seems to me the most interesting. With "spaced" sensors instead of one "head", which in theory should increase accuracy
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 June 2017 16: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          It’s not always worth spending a full Helfair on a Toyota Tank.

          Hydra has only 1 kg of explosives in the warhead (standard M151) or 2,2 kg (extended version of M229). Moreover, the most common option is the standard one.
          So for guaranteed defeat, “Toyota” will have to use several controlled “hydra”. And if you have to pick the assault martyr-mobile with his armor ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 June 2017 17: 13 New
            +3
            C'mon, the Toyota Tank can tip over during movement and from a close gap. With the total "sending to the guria" of the entire "crew"

            By the way, Nimr with a launcher for 16 guided Hydras from Raytheon, plus 2 Helfaers just in case, plus 28 missiles stacked in the rear of the car
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 13 June 2017 17: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Spade
              C'mon, the Toyota Tank can tip over during movement and from a close gap. With the total "sending to the guria" of the entire "crew"

              Or maybe not topple over. And the dilemma confronts the pilots: either immediately send 2-3 “hydra-UR” to the target, or save and shoot one rocket in succession, each time waiting for the result of the previous launch. In the latter case, Toyota may even have time to hide in buildings or in the folds of the terrain.
              It was necessary for the Yankees not to stand out, but to make SD from the NAR of a caliber of 127 mm. With it, a close miss will hit 80% of standard targets in BV.
            2. Gogia
              Gogia 14 June 2017 21: 48 New
              0
              Krasava. Somehow, our tiger with wired ATGMs looks rather poor against this background ... Although how to look. Beautifully from Kornet Abramychi burn ....
      2. Dead duck
        Dead duck 13 June 2017 17: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: Pirogov
        modernization of rockets, which for 70let

        They are not 70 years old, are modeled on the 70 years ago.
      3. arnar114
        arnar114 13 June 2017 18: 01 New
        +1
        A Tu-95. B-52 DO NOT QUESTIONS? They take old, mastered weapons and equip them with high-precision guidance systems. As a result: - "cheap and cheerful" than creating a new system. Save time and money. We often have 2-3 systems with similar characteristics, but which do not fully meet the technical requirements.
      4. jonhr
        jonhr 13 June 2017 18: 39 New
        +2
        consider her a couple of years old. it's just the same housing to fit launchers. and here we really see that they can count money. under the new rocket it was necessary to buy other launchers
      5. Gogia
        Gogia 14 June 2017 21: 46 New
        0
        Shells for the D-30 are also not in 2015, but if you use a special system, then instead of a fuse, we screw a bulldozer with a laser guidance system - a small one. and got high-precision ammunition. And how old is he - the tank into which this log will fly - absolutely do not care. This is what our people must do now. and to FABs such stray to masturbate ...
  3. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 13 June 2017 16: 21 New
    0
    are the most affordable high-precision ammunition (the cost of one rocket is estimated at $ 10).

    Cheapness is extremely temporary. Something has not been finalized financially.
  4. Altona
    Altona 13 June 2017 16: 25 New
    +2
    Weapon old-school went into action, steam punk with laser sensors? Somewhere I already saw it, is it not in Ukraine? laughing
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 June 2017 16: 37 New
      +1
      IN USSR. Complex precision weapons "Threat"
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 June 2017 16: 56 New
        +2
        There was also S-25L - the product of the Soviet gloomy genius. The missile body in flight was stabilized by rotation, and the guidance system unit was mounted in the head part on the bearing so that it remained stationary.
        The designer, apparently, was inspired by a cumulative projectile stabilized by rotation, with a rotating body (for rifled guns). smile
  5. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 13 June 2017 16: 39 New
    0
    Does the 1948 ammunition satisfy today's requirements?
    At 1:51, the key is interesting, apparently for working with cylindrical parts with a "delicate" surface. I have not met such
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 13 June 2017 16: 53 New
      +1
      Does the 1948 ammunition satisfy today's requirements?

      How old is Kalash there? Here, too, they are modernizing slowly, and they see no problems.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 June 2017 17: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Black Colonel
      Does the 1948 ammunition satisfy today's requirements?

      Our C5 is only six years younger
      In addition, the American in 81 underwent a major modernization. After that, in fact, they changed their name from "FFAR" to "Hydra-70"
  6. The brightest
    The brightest 13 June 2017 16: 50 New
    0
    Let's do the same for hail and tornado do))
  7. krmix
    krmix 13 June 2017 16: 52 New
    0
    The right decision, if our C8 was so modernized, a noble product would turn out.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 13 June 2017 16: 59 New
    0

    Take an unguided projectile + control unit = cool thing.
    Cheap and cheerful, we would also be able to master a similar modernization of the S-5 KO
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 June 2017 17: 14 New
      0
      Better with C 8, this one will be more powerful than C 5.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 June 2017 17: 29 New
      0
      There were complaints on the P-5 in Afghanistan too - warheads are too weak. They wrote that the fragments did not even pierce a cotton robe. smile
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 13 June 2017 18: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        They wrote that the fragments did not even pierce a cotton robe.

        They pierced, I can assure
  9. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 17: 47 New
    +5
    MoJloT,
    Quote: MoJloT
    Maybe they just use their heads after Vietnam, where an American soldier proved himself to be a staunch and brave fighter!

    laughing laughing laughing You made me an evening, colleague, thank you! He laughed heartily.
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 June 2017 18: 13 New
      +3
      It looks like a colleague is a very young man ...
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 18: 16 New
        +4
        As you can see, nothing answers. Maybe I realized that I’ve froze stupidity? And then I would remind him of Songmy ... wink
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 June 2017 18: 22 New
          +3
          He reads only the tops and the names ...
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 June 2017 18: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      You made me an evening, colleague, thank you! He laughed heartily.

      Why laugh? The siege of Kontjen and Kheshani showed that the Yankees, when they are laden, can hold positions in the environment, and their pilots can put transporters even on the fired lane.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 13 June 2017 19: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexey RA
        when they will hide

        I can’t argue with this - even a mouse, if a cat drives it into a corner, begins to rush at the offender. The siege of Kontian and Kheshan does not justify the "courage" of US soldiers during the massacre in Songmi and other atrocities in Vietnam.
    3. jonhr
      jonhr 13 June 2017 18: 41 New
      +1
      no one encroached on your courage and stamina. take it easy laughing
  10. Orionvit
    Orionvit 13 June 2017 18: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: MoJloT
    after Vietnam, where an American soldier proved himself a staunch and brave fighter!

    Is that sarcasm like that? They sent American guys to die, so they died, there were no cases of mass heroism and stamina. Maybe someone does not remember how the Vietnam War ended? The complete rout and flight of the United States.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 13 June 2017 18: 18 New
      +1
      And I thought a peace agreement.
      On January 27, 1973, the Paris Peace Agreement was signed, according to which American troops left Vietnam (by this time all ground combat units had already been withdrawn, and 24 thousand Americans remained in the country). Fulfilling the signed agreement, on March 29 of the same year, the United States completed the withdrawal of its troops from South Vietnam.

      And South Vietnam fell in 1975. Two years after the departure of the United States. They simply lost the war of attrition, did not economically pull on the continuation of the banquet. Moreover, their human losses are insignificant, what is 58 thousand people for a 200+ millionth country? (Now over 350 millionth)
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 13 June 2017 18: 31 New
        0
        Exactly, by flight, under the guise of a peace agreement. It was necessary to "save face."
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 13 June 2017 18: 34 New
          +1
          Two years later, there the war went on without their participation. Therefore, there was no military defeat, but only economic. Thus, there can be no complaints against the US Armed Forces.
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 13 June 2017 18: 45 New
            0
            Thus, there can be no complaints against the US Armed Forces.
            With this interpretation, you only write Ukrainian history books. The talk is not about the defeat of South Vietnam, but about the comprehensive loss of the United States.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 13 June 2017 22: 41 New
              0
              So in the end, Vietnam is now a friend of the United States
    2. jonhr
      jonhr 13 June 2017 18: 44 New
      +1
      calm down already. you are a hero and you can see it laughing
      although I call others like you laughing letter H
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 13 June 2017 18: 48 New
        0
        This fully determines your moral character, if it is of course.
        1. jonhr
          jonhr 13 June 2017 19: 23 New
          +1
          you first determine your moral character before my determine. I, unlike you, do not pour feces on people whom I never knew and who simply carried out what their country told them. and don’t need to make a saint of myself like I'm not like that. as for me you are even worse. from you and blows meanness and treachery, as well as nasal
  11. dakty
    dakty 13 June 2017 19: 58 New
    +1
    It seemed to me alone that in the rocket’s body, where the front tail is formed, the slot is shorter than the blade and there is no expansion under the sensor on it ?!
  12. Normal ok
    Normal ok 13 June 2017 21: 42 New
    0
    It turns out that they are able not only to cut, but also to finish))