China has successfully tested the management of a swarm of drones

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The state-owned China Electronics Technology Group introduced and announced the successful concept development and management of a swarm of 119 ultra-low-cost drones.

In the video presented by China Electronics Technology Group, one can see a successful demonstration of intensive ejection, aerial buildup and the creation of a multi-purpose grouping, the formation of the environment, cluster operations, the finding and destruction of a potential enemy, as well as other activities.

In 2016, a swarm of US military UAVs were actively tested, intended for electronic and fire suppression of enemy air defense systems and air strikes against offensive target areas. weapons likely opponent.

China has successfully tested the management of a swarm of drones


Such developments should be regarded as a serious threat, said Konstantin Makienko, deputy director of the Center for Strategy and Technology.

Moreover, this, without any exaggeration, a revolution in military affairs can occur soon enough and suddenly,
- says Makienko. -
Fight similar flocks of small-sized drones it will be very difficult physically. No mirror counteraction is suitable here. Effective, in my opinion, will only be the use of electronic weapons that destroy intellectual communications in such a swarm


In Russia, there were also some projects aimed at the development of pack technologies with reference to UAVs. However, this topic has not yet been seriously dealt with in our country. For real implementation of such ideas, it is necessary to have small-sized UAVs and develop the necessary flock algorithms. I want to believe that we will see domestic developments in the very near future.

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  1. +9
    13 June 2017 12: 21
    It would be nice if they didn’t apply it to us.
    1. +5
      13 June 2017 12: 25
      It would be nice if they didn’t apply it to us.
      Everything has its time!
      1. +2
        13 June 2017 12: 45
        dangerous contraption, a crowd of such cheap UAV-kamikaze is not pleasant to see over their positions
        1. +1
          13 June 2017 12: 58
          DO NOT UNDERSTAND... belay
          At the start, the cables are okay. It can be such traction for acceleration.
          But the video shows that they are connected in flight with each other by cable !!!

          And at the expense of danger to us - this is the policy of the United States is to make all potential enemies weak. Russia's policy was to make friends strong.
          1. +10
            13 June 2017 13: 23
            What other cables?
            This is either an animation illustrating communication or a laser beam - an optical data channel.
            1. +1
              13 June 2017 14: 35
              And there is . it's just an animation.
              The advertising video and for clarity, the luminous lines decided to show that they do not just fly nearby, but keep in touch.
          2. +6
            13 June 2017 15: 17
            The Chinese just forgot to paint the ropes in Photoshop.
            And so yes, they were all connected .... so that they would not fly far, but they all got in, like the type of technology and all that good laughing
        2. +1
          13 June 2017 13: 06
          Like a kamikaze - not really, because they can take a little payload (you can still do something against the antennas, but against the ships, as they suggest here, this is complete garbage).

          But it’s a very good way of overloading air defense systems (I won’t go further, otherwise ideas will flow in the wrong direction).
          1. +2
            14 June 2017 01: 04
            Quote: alstr
            But it’s a very good way of overloading air defense systems (I won’t go further, otherwise ideas will flow in the wrong direction).

            Woke up? laughing Catch up, otherwise even the Chinese ... laughing
    2. +1
      13 June 2017 12: 29
      In case of using a swarm of drones, we have a Fumigator system that can deactivate them.
      1. +4
        13 June 2017 13: 02
        Quote: 3315061
        In case of using a swarm of drones, we have a Fumigator system that can deactivate them.

        This is for remote control only.
        For stand-alone modules that have only been set a task, and then they themselves, without external control - will not work
      2. 0
        13 June 2017 14: 06
        Toto ISIS every now and then upload new videos about how to bomb from their drones.
      3. +1
        14 June 2017 01: 13
        Quote: 3315061
        In case of using a swarm of drones, we have a Fumigator system that can deactivate them.

        Does she know how to disrupt optical communication channels? wink
    3. +8
      13 June 2017 12: 30
      The Chinese again copied the tactics of the United States ...? A massive UAV attack on the country's air defense .. Well, in Russia it will not work, that's for sure .. But if the Chinese use it on the USA (and we will help them, ..), there will be an effect, to drive the USAG.
      1. +4
        13 June 2017 14: 07
        Why not ride it? In the same Syria, the same Khmeimim gouging quite a ride. Neither S-400 nor Armor can oppose anything to such a swarm.
    4. +3
      13 June 2017 12: 35
      Quote: Ken71
      It would be nice if they didn’t apply it to us.

      Yes, a dangerous friend at our side ..
      1. +1
        13 June 2017 21: 56
        Yes, a dangerous friend at our side .. [b] [/ b]
        And not a friend and "yet" not an enemy - but ...
        They are even worse for us than striped ones.
    5. +3
      13 June 2017 12: 43
      So far, these are all children's toys. But technology is evolving.
      1. 0
        13 June 2017 14: 41
        Yeah, to shove a TNT dash into each airplane, it’ll probably take 400 grams, and send it to the enemy’s position, so the soldiers will laugh ...
        This, of course, is only a concept, but also a toy is too frivolous to call
    6. 0
      13 June 2017 13: 03
      Quote: Ken71
      It would be nice if they didn’t apply it to us.

      Everyone understands that they are preparing these flocks against Purd Harlbor and California. laughing
  2. +6
    13 June 2017 12: 24
    the bees will die out, and the Chinese drones will remain wassat
    1. +2
      13 June 2017 12: 30
      the bees will die out, and the Chinese drones will remain
      They won’t stay, the otter (means of struggle) was prepared, the Chinese, the "swarm" were not the first to give birth, respectively, and the means of fighting the swarm IS!
      1. +5
        13 June 2017 12: 38
        and if they learn to collect honey?
        1. +1
          13 June 2017 12: 49
          and if they learn to collect honey?
          So, we will study honey kozinaki with nuts laughing they do, for the "sale"!
      2. +1
        13 June 2017 14: 08
        and what means if not a secret?
  3. +2
    13 June 2017 12: 38
    There have been discussions on this more than once at VO, but not everything is so hopeless

    An effective weapon has been created in Russia against flocks of shock mini-drones that can disable air defense systems. This was reported by TASS representative of the United Instrumentation Corporation (OPK, part of the state corporation Rostec).

    “To combat massive attacks by robotic systems, weapons are needed that will affect drones at a fundamentally different level. And such weapons have already been created in Russia, they do not physically destroy drones, they do not interfere with them, but they are guaranteed to disable electronic systems on board, turning the drone into a useless piece of dead iron and plastic, "the source said.

    The source said that against such "robotic air predators" conventional air defense systems and electronic warfare systems are powerless, but the fundamentally new weapons created by Russian specialists simply will not allow a flock of robots to reach their destination. "

    It is worth adding that earlier some media reported that in the United States a swarm of shock mini-drones was developed and tested to suppress air defense systems and offensive weapons.

    However, it is worth noting that the triumph of the Pentagon developers is somewhat premature. As RG has already reported, in addition to weapons against swarms of robots, Russia is creating the newest unique Shiponov-AERO unique electronic warfare complex (EW), which can not only crack the on-board computers of enemy drones, but also take complete control of aircraft control.
    According to experts of the defense industry complex, where a unique electronic warfare complex is being created, hacking an on-board UAV computer of a known model at "Rosehip" takes one second. If the drone model is unknown, then it passes under the control of the electronic warfare complex in a few minutes.


    https://rg.ru/2016/10/29/v-rossii-sozdali-effekti
    vnuiu-sistemu-borby-so-staiami-udarnyh-dronov.htm
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    1. +1
      13 June 2017 12: 45
      which can not only hack the onboard computers of enemy drones, but also take complete control of aircraft control.
      And it pleases.
      Only my question is amateur and ignoramus: on the battlefield or around an important object. I want to believe in the effectiveness of counteraction, but what about the safety of civil aircraft? what
      1. +7
        13 June 2017 13: 28
        sounds like grandfather Makar's tales, to be honest.
        In my opinion, the main weapon against such targets is anti-aircraft artillery with ammunition with a radio fuse, that's all.
        1. 0
          13 June 2017 14: 43
          And even better is a laser, they are small, they fly not far, an ideal target for a laser.
          1. +3
            13 June 2017 18: 00
            If there is such sufficient power then yes. REB, of course, is also needed, but it is not a panacea and indeed it may not work on stand-alone devices. And we will leave the tales of burning out electronic filling to storytellers.
        2. 0
          13 June 2017 19: 24
          Nets with balloons! ;)))
        3. +1
          14 June 2017 01: 29
          Quote: alexmach
          sounds like grandfather Makar's tales, to be honest.

          Because they are. request
        4. +1
          14 June 2017 07: 10
          Anti-aircraft artillery is not bad ... but you can’t get by with just “ammunition with a radio fuse”! As for EMP shells, it’s worthwhile to think about FOR .... like the barrage of ammunition with EMR charges or “cluster” munitions (“stuffing” are interceptor microdrons
          ...)
    2. +2
      13 June 2017 13: 34
      Quote: Yuyuka
      According to experts of the defense industry complex, where a unique electronic warfare complex is being created, hacking an on-board UAV computer of a known model at "Rosehip" takes one second.


      Let's clarify - that this is a hack of a fairly simple civilian model, with a not very strong encryption system.
      In a swarm, several hundred drones can interact with hundreds of encrypted channels.
      Hacking each is very costly and time consuming.
      A much more effective way to influence the drone’s orientation system is by suppressing the altitude orientation system (radio channel or gps).
      It is more difficult to disable drone navigation with an inertial control system - however, it is not very accurate - for example, it does not take into account wind drift.
      The electromagnetic effect on the on-board electronics can be forgotten, because like any model of military equipment, military drones have the protection of components from EMP.

      I would not greatly exaggerate the danger of swarm impact, since the smaller the aircraft, the more serious the weather conditions — strong winds, rain, and the range decreases.
      To deliver the swarm over a long distance, they will be forced to use special delivery vehicles - for example, "cluster" ammunition containing several drones.
      1. +2
        13 June 2017 17: 34
        "For the delivery of the swarm over a long distance, they will be forced to use special means" ///

        Americans plan to dump them from transporters who themselves do not fly up
        to attacked objects. The difference from the barrage of ammunition is that the survivors
        drones will be able to return to the uterus. If, for example, one small drone carries one
        also a small ur, it turns out profitable. Instead of large missiles, a few kg with a warhead are sent to the object’s radars and antennas. Plus, in a swarm - scouts highlighting targets for others, false targets with increased ESR, etc. In general, you can confuse air defense to insensibility.
    3. 0
      13 June 2017 13: 43
      Can you use microwave guns against them? Microwave - which will overheat electronics and burn, if you make military mobile stations and stations at strategically important facilities - then you can not be afraid of "swarms".
      1. +1
        13 June 2017 13: 56
        Quote: Corsair
        Can you use microwave guns against them? Microwave - which will overheat electronics and burn, if you make military mobile stations and stations at strategically important facilities - then you can not be afraid of "swarms".


        While there are no such ones, with sufficient power to destroy the shielded electronics, at a long distance.
      2. +1
        13 June 2017 17: 00
        Quote: Corsair
        Can you use microwave guns against them? Microwave - which will overheat electronics and burn, if you make military mobile stations and stations at strategically important facilities - then you can not be afraid of "swarms".

        The microwave oven, like EW, is a funny thing that is suitable only for throwing dust into the eyes of idiots, which can be praised when, like, we drowned out Donald Cook, but it is absolutely useless in a real combat situation when you have to crush Turkish air defense / mattresses in Sheikhrat / a radio mine on the route of a Russian senior officer who died in Palmyra.
        1. +1
          14 June 2017 01: 33
          Quote: Young_Communist
          EW - funny bullshit ...

          This is debatable, again - depending on whose and how to use it. request
      3. +3
        13 June 2017 17: 32
        Quote: Corsair
        Can you use microwave guns against them? Microwave - which will overheat electronics and burn, if you make military mobile stations and stations at strategically important facilities - then you can not be afraid of "swarms".

        Or create a swarm of microwave ovens, they will capture drones, torture them and burn them as necessary. laughing
        1. +2
          14 June 2017 01: 37
          Quote: AID.S
          Or create a swarm of microwave ovens, they will capture drones, torture them and burn them as necessary. laughing

          laughing
    4. +2
      14 June 2017 01: 28
      Quote: Yuyuka
      "Rosehip-AERO", which can not only hack the on-board computers of enemy drones, but also take control of aircraft under full control ... guaranteed to disable radio-electronic on-board systems ...

      And also teleport them to Alpha Centauri. lol
      The complex was shown in the 2012, and from year to year "all the thicker partisans." lol At that pace, by 2020, journalists will teach him how to read UAV operator thoughts.
      At the 2012 Technology Technologies in Mechanical Engineering 2012 Forum, OJSC Vega for the first time presented for public viewing one of its own initiative-developed projects - a hardware room under the Shipovnik-Aero code to provide radio monitoring и blocking discovered remote control channels flying decisions.

      For those in the tank - detection and (exclusively) remote control channel lock (remote control). Sic. laughing
  4. +4
    13 June 2017 14: 29
    How is it not developed similar projects ???
    ANTI-SEPARABLE ROCKET COMPLEX P-700 GRANITE

    When salvo firing, a system of exchanging information between missiles in a salvo is used, which forms a single information space for all missiles (which one sees, everyone sees) and allows target distribution in the order of enemy ships with an estimate of the size of a potential target. A typical set of information about ship signatures and order diagrams is embedded in on-board computing facilities, which gives missiles the ability to determine the type of target. A flexible adaptive algorithm for generating trajectories in a group attack is used, the use of which received an unofficial nickname "Wolf pack": volley missiles themselves automatically "sorted out" which of them which part of the combat mission will perform.
  5. +1
    13 June 2017 14: 49
    China has successfully tested the management of a swarm of drones


    Very interesting article. I wonder if we have analogues.
  6. 0
    13 June 2017 15: 10
    What about a flock of bird-sized drones as such - to unmask drones? Any UAV of the same size plus one backup will cope with any task of the flock.

    Another thing is a swarm of ultra-small drones the size of a bumblebee in closed premises for reconnaissance on the way to advance the assault group - what DARPA is currently developing. But the Chinese have a thin gut for a similar level of miniaturization.
    1. 0
      13 June 2017 15: 21
      just in china after the cultural revolution with sparrows strained
      that's what flocks do ...
  7. 0
    13 June 2017 16: 24
    machines are the future ... today a swarm, tomorrow a war of cars and its own Sarah Connor ...
  8. 0
    13 June 2017 17: 08
    If there are one-time codes, you will hack <Figley> here, because there is nothing. Volumetric blast ammunition on a cheap low speed rocket.
  9. +1
    13 June 2017 22: 13
    This invention is wonderful in that these drones can already be transported under the goods to any part of the planet and stored until the time "H" in the immediate vicinity of the strategic object of the protected air defense. I really hope that our MO is already working in this direction.
  10. +7
    13 June 2017 23: 23
    But this is an extremely funny thing.
    However, very Chinese. a lot, cheap and go try to win. laughing
    I think our bright heads will come up with a tricky Chinese ..ope another "device with a screw"
  11. +1
    14 June 2017 03: 46
    Very promising project. The main problem is creating a high-capacity battery. But I think this is a matter of time. Russia should hurry for the future)))
  12. 0
    14 June 2017 03: 49
    But I have long said that it will be so with these drones !!!!
  13. +1
    14 June 2017 07: 18
    1 ZUSHKA will land this swarm in a matter of seconds. The main thing to see on time. So there is no need to invent anything against them.
  14. +1
    14 June 2017 10: 08
    well that's it, a swarm of Chinese is now in the air)