Northern shipyard began testing diesel generators on the frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of Kasaton"

Severnaya Verf Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) began testing diesel generators in the fore engine room of the frigate of Project 22350 Admiral fleet Kasatonov, ”reports TSAMTO with reference to the site of USC JSC.

Diesel generators must ensure stable and reliable power generation on the ship. During the tests, they are loaded from 0% to 110% power and monitor the DG operation according to various parameters, such as vibration, voltage, pressure and temperature in the serving systems ... After successfully passing the tests, DGs can provide the ship with power supply autonomously. Ahead of the frigate - testing DG in the aft engine room. According to the schedule they should be completed in late June.

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The ship continues testing of special equipment, combat and consumer systems. Shipbuilders rent the premises for primary painting, more than 60% of the volume of this work was completed. Also equipped with accommodations - cabins and cockpits. Now they assemble furniture. Check in crew is scheduled for November 2017.

The frigate "Admiral of the Kasaton fleet" is the first serial ship of the 22350 project. The project was developed by the Northern Design Bureau. The flagship of the project, the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov, is completing state tests, the construction of two more frigates of the series, the Admiral of the Fleet Golovko and the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Isakov, continues at the shipyard berths. The 22350 frigates of the project will be the most modern ships of the Russian Navy in its class. Due to the original architecture of the superstructure (“stealth”), ships have a reduced reflective surface, which reduces their radar visibility. The frigates are designed to conduct combat operations in the far ocean zone against surface ships and submarines of the enemy, to repel attacks of air attack weapons, both independently and as part of a compound of ships.

The main characteristics of the 22350 project: displacement - 5000 t, length - 135 m, width - 16 m, speed - up to 29 nodes, cruising range - 4500 miles, autonomy - 30 days, crew - 180-210 people, main power installation: GTE common power 65 thousand hp, diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

Armament:

artillery armament: A-130 192-mm artillery;
Missile armament: Redut anti-aircraft missile system; launchers for 16 of Onyx or Caliber-NKE anti-ship missiles;
Anti-submarine weapons: the Package-NK complex;
Aviation weapons: anti-submarine helicopter Ka-27.

Comments

[Banishing liberoids]

The roar there now probably can be deafened without noise absorbers!

[Seaman77]

Northern shipyard began testing diesel generators on the frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of Kasaton"

Yu.S. they are testing a new nuclear carrier, and we are a diesel generator. This is not news, but some kind of mockery. Soon they will begin to inform about each bow the anchor chain in the news .......

[_Ugene_]

The Russian Federation is not the USSR, we in the fleet cannot compete with the United States in principle, and this is not necessary. The most effective component of the fleet - the submarine fleet, is still at our level, this is the main thing.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: _Ugene_

the submarine fleet is still at our level, this is the main thing.

If we do not take into account the NATO countries, then the picture is approximately the following: (US Navy / Russian Navy)
- SSBN: type "Ohio" (Ohio) - 14 / rpkSN (all projects) - 13
- PLARK: type “Ohio” (Ohio) - 04 / plRK (all projects) - 09
MPLATRK: type "Los Angeles" (Los Angeles) - 35; type "Sivulf" (Seawolf) - 03; type "Virginia" (Virginia) - 14. TOTAL: 52ed. / platrk (all projects) - 18 units.
In multipurpose we yield in 3 times, as well as in transportable weapons ... torpedo range, noise of the main part of the ship ...
And at the same time, allocations for GPV-2025 to the fleet were cut from the requested 4,7 tril. RB - to 2,6 tril. in fact .
So we will go far in the construction of a modern Navy ...
(There is no money, but you hold on! )

[NEXUS]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And at the same time, allocations for GPV-2025 to the fleet were cut from the requested 4,7 tril. RB - to 2,6 tril. in fact .

Sasha, after 18, there will be no Putin ... and there everything can change dramatically. And something tells me that it is far from the bad side.

[Pirogov]

Quote: NEXUS

Sasha, after 18, there will be no Putin ... and there everything can change dramatically. And something tells me that it is far from the bad side.

Could you give more details? Do you think GDP will not become president of the election?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Pirogov

Could you give more details? Do you think GDP will not become president of the election?

Have you read the Constitution of the Russian Federation?

[tchack]

Read. AND?? Please explain your remark.

[NEXUS]

Quote: tchack

Read. AND?? Please explain your remark.

Did you notice that one person cannot be elected president in a row? Or do you think that GDP will shred the Constitution? On the contrary, he adheres to it, about which he repeatedly spoke.

[tchack]

Three times in a row can not.
Article 81 reads:
3. One and the same person can not hold the office of President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms.

Putin had 2 consecutive terms, Medvedev had 1 term, Putin had another term, and in 2018, Putin had 2 consecutive terms. You are confusing something.

[NEXUS]

Quote: tchack

Putin had 2 consecutive terms, Medvedev had 1 term, Putin had another term, and in 2018, Putin had 2 consecutive terms. You are confusing something.

Perhaps ... only you yourself believe that he will go to the next term, then? He is the 63rd year already ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: NEXUS

after 18, Putin will not be ... and there everything can change dramatically

But Putin is changing his presence? The construction is carried out not by him personally, but by design bureaus and factories, and the fact that Redoubt seems to be only now (!) Finished was not his fault. And the rest ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dart2027

But Putin is changing his presence? The construction is carried out not by him personally, but by design bureaus and factories, and the fact that Redoubt seems to be only now (!) Finished was not his fault. And the rest ...

Anything that some “corn lover” can come to his place and cover the entire rearmament program with a copper basin at all? Or vice versa, “a mustachioed uncle with a tobacco pipe”, and change this program beyond recognition, giving it priority, cutting the citizen down?

[Dart2027]

I actually answered that

Quote: NEXUS

And something tells me that far from a bad side.

So you wanted to say that it would be better without him?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dart2027

So you wanted to say that it would be better without him?

I want to say that in his place can come a person who can change a lot, including the rearmament program.

[_Ugene_]

you forgot about diesel-electric submarines, the Americans don’t have them, but we have about 20 there is

[arnar114]

At the expense of PL: - "blessed is he who believes." Read the payroll and combat-ready submarines. And check out KOH (operational voltage coefficient).

[alexmach]

This is great news. The Russian fleet needs these ships as air, otherwise soon the fleet itself will simply not be there. And since there are not many of them in the foreseeable future, each of them counts.

[NEXUS]

Quote: alexmach

This is great news. The Russian fleet needs these ships as air, otherwise soon the fleet itself will simply not be there.

So far, with such a pace of rearmament, construction and financing, our fleet is likely to bend rather than crawl out of the hole.

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

What is happening in the fleet, I already cease to understand. 22350 has not yet established itself in the series, but they are already going to radically change the project. If you believe the head of the USC:

Rudolph, they have been talking about the 22350M project for a long time ... moreover, Shoigu said that the frigates of the 22350 and 33350M projects will be the basis of our fleets. And then I have a reasonable question: What about the Storm project (destroyer) where will it go from the gas turbine?

Quote from rudolf

The leader goes to the right somewhere to infinity.

Not really ... what do we have? The RITM-200 YaSU is already being tested in the Arctic ... further, they are approaching the end of the Zircon test and, I think, will soon start purchasing the S-500 into the troops, which means they will fight the sea version However, I think that they are already making a dirty S-400 ... I believe that the Leader will be created on the basis of Project 22350M, this should be understood this way ... the modularity of the structure will be worked out, the principle of which will be applied to the Leader.

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

If the armament, displacement, appearance itself is changing, then this is more of a new project, rather than modernization.

That's right ... but I am confused by the displacement of project 22350M ... some kind of under-destroyer ... maybe they are betting on faster construction with less displacement than the destroyers ...

Quote from rudolf

Project Storm, this is an aircraft carrier. Maybe you mean Flurry?

Yes ... confused, damn it ... of course a Flurry ...

Quote from rudolf

I'll kiss you, then, if you want!

But our fleet will receive destroyers when Shoigu changes their sex? We’ll eat up the resource of Sarychev ... we’ll eat up at zero, friend.

Quote from rudolf

Modularity is evil! The Americans tried and worked back. And we, as always, try to move forward, stepping back.

Well, who knows ... and suddenly it turns out ... mattresses are not an indicator, although they have a lot of experience in shipbuilding. In principle, an idea with modularity is interesting, that's just one thing to say, and another to do.
But ... take a look ... and tell me, can such a people be defeated?

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

Modularity is interesting only on paper. Today I am an anti-submarine corvette, and tomorrow a minesweeper? Are modules in reserve at the base waiting? And the crews are attached to these modules? Rave!

You don’t understand ... the modularity is not in turning one ship into another, by changing the modules ... I’m talking about something else. The modularity in construction ... that is, the hull is one, but the superstructure and filling are already according to needs ... you understand ?

[alexmach]

I don’t think that in this case, modularity meant a collapsible constructor. Most likely, it was said that the equipment worked out at 22350 and M will be used on other ships. The same Polement-Redoubt., Shell of the new version, gun mount, HOOK, CIUS, electronic warfare ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: alexmach

I don’t think that in this case, modularity meant a collapsible constructor.

No, you didn’t understand me ... I didn’t mean the collapsible process already during the operation of the ship by the fleet, but the assembly process itself ... the hull is one (universal), and the add-on modules, filling, arsenal are mounted on a modular principle on factory. And in the process of operation, by replacing the modules, do not change the orientation of the ship. That is, the assembly process itself is, as it were, streamlined ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: alexmach

I don’t think that in this case, modularity meant a collapsible constructor.

The whole trouble is that from top to bottom the office was populated by effective managers! This is their idea: the cab and the vehicle are alone, and the passengers and their tsatskas are a variable: I want to load the PLO, I want to roll the air defense or anti-ship missiles ... But for this (Rudlf's rights!) You need to load the corresponding specialists * together with equipment and stationary / variable to place this equipment on board. Because air defense / anti-aircraft defense, well, vary greatly in the composition of weapons. And to have equally strong PLO-PVO / PRO- PKR / KRBD - this is only a universal wagon can on 20-25 Kt displacement ...
The Dutch also tried to “modulate” at one time, but they did not go beyond the 900 corvette. And not because they could not or did not want to. They just realized that a "general practitioner" would never replace a professional surgeon. Not a single * universal * bot can solve a problem better than a specialized ship, sharpened from birth to solve it.
Amen!

[Dart2027]

Quote from rudolf

Today I am an anti-submarine corvette, and tomorrow a minesweeper? Are modules in reserve at the base waiting?

This is certainly nonsense, but for example, you can relatively quickly replace the module with the A-192 gun, with some A-200, with minimal problems. And the main thing is construction, when the modules are produced by a conveyor.

[alexmach]

That's right ... but I am confused by the displacement of project 22350M ... some kind of under-destroyer ... maybe they are betting on faster construction with less displacement than the destroyers ...

perhaps they came to the conclusion that the displacement is not enough and the existing power plant will pull another 1100 tons, but no more. Pay attention to the daring corvettes 20386 there, too, the displacement also increased and even more dramatically.

[NEXUS]

Quote: alexmach

perhaps they came to the conclusion that the displacement is not enough and the existing power plant will pull another 1100 tons, but no more.

The fact of the matter is that a gas turbine must have a certain supply of power ... and when done back to back, there may be problems with speed, carrying capacity, etc. ...

Quote: alexmach

Pay attention to the daring corvettes 20386 there, too, the displacement also increased and even more dramatically.

I noticed this a long time ago ... it’s just a feeling that our developers are in a hurry, which can lead to constructive miscalculations at the construction level ... and eliminating this is much more difficult than any other mistakes.

[alexmach]

The fact that project 22350 will be the basis of the fleet was said long before the announcement of Shoigu. As they stumbled on the construction of the headquarters, so they calmed down. Now cheeks are puffing out again.

Maybe the fact is that they stumbled? Gorshkov found flaws and decided to make changes while there is time? All the same, the engines are only on the way to the already built hulls, there is an opportunity to once again think about the displacement or about the problems that have arisen. On the reklan roller 22350M was with a larger superstructure and antenna. Perhaps they came to the conclusion that Polyment-Redoubt problems can be solved by increasing the size of the antenna? Or that the displacement is not enough and the ship is not capable of launching rockets with excitement, and an extra 1100 tons will help?

[Boa kaa]

Quote from rudolf

Modularity is evil! The Americans tried and worked back. And we, as always, try to move forward, stepping back.

Hello Volchara!
You are wrong: the Amy tried and started stuffing rockets of different sizes into the same UPV, like Axes, Harpoons and Asroks. There also ZURy pop ...
Our inertia continues to babble about "modularity", referring to the Jeltmen weapon kit in UKKS ...
So, nothing * progressive * is alien to us.
IMHO.

[alexmach]

I only have a question on missiles, whether it is necessary to sharpen the launch installation under them, like the Americans. Maybe yes maybe no. I do not know. Such universality will provoke a weapon selection error. Perhaps the best option is the presence of two universal systems, missile defense and air defense

This idea is not entirely clear. What is the advantage of having two types of launchers? The fact that they do not forget to put missiles, or do not shove instead of them URO?

[Monarchist]

Seaman, urgently reprimand the author and at the same time all the others: For causing emotional wounds to your sensitive nature.
But seriously, after the events known to you, when 404 left us without engines, good news.

[Banishing liberoids]

I am somewhat confused by the ratio of the width of the case to its length, all the more so since the width is clearly indicated as maximum — is it too narrow, will the points fall on seven on one side ???

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

I am somewhat confused by the ratio of the width of the case to its length,

- Something has been bothering me recently Honduras ...
- And you do not scratch him!
Exorcist, hello!
In fact, the normal length-to-width ratio of warships is 1: 10, well, 1: 8 is possible. It’s almost a classic here: 1: 8,44 ... To the best of the * bellied *, relatively fast ... So everything is fine. And ships overturn for another reason: "Metacentric height" is called, however!
If you're interested, you’ll read it yourself - not a little one!

[210ox]

Well, it pleases .. More such beauties!

[Bourbon]

Quote: 210ox

Well, it pleases

what exactly pleases?

[210ox]

Read the article.

Quote: Burbon

Quote: 210ox

Well, it pleases

what exactly pleases?

[Bourbon]

Quote: 210ox

Read the article.

Before I get to your comment, I read the article, but what exactly makes you happy? ...

Quote: 210ox

.More such beauties!

you about diesel generators. ?? ... because an article about them ...

[Senior manager]

Self-promotion is good. But they were not tested at the manufacturer’s factory, maybe the advanced technologies are super modern. Can diesels be more convenient when installing a case? What a dummy. There are all kinds of technologies, but somehow it is more informative to present

[arnar114]

The question is not the diesels and generators themselves. The issue of testing a diesel generator set, with the supply of energy to the main switchboard, load regulation, protection, parallel operation. On the other hand, there is petty news, which was not worth reporting. But the "scribblers" need something to write ....

[Dart2027]

Quote: St. Propulsion

But they were not checked at the factory

The diesel itself is yes, but it doesn’t work on the ship by itself, but as part of the ship’s systems - in fact, they are checked

[hirurg]

Diesel generators! Challenges! I am inspired by this news!
What's next? Test....
There are not many reality shows on the construction of the ship you can do ...

[LÄRZ]

Quote: hirurg

There are not many reality shows on the construction of the ship you can do ...

"Frigate-2". Part two, episode three. "Testing a diesel generator."

[Zibelew]

Ahead of the latrine test.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: LÄRZ

"Testing a diesel generator."

in the bow, and then there will be a test in the stern - in the article it is written in the text

[DimanC]

Or can the author explain what the word "testing" means?

[san4es]

Quote: DimanC

Or can the author explain what the word "testing" means?

[APASUS]

Something I did not quite understand what kind of running-in of diesel generators? Typically, a diesel engine is already run-in at the factory, and then complex ship tests, and then each system will be rolled

[Moore]

Quote: Seaman77

This is not news, but some kind of mockery. Soon they will begin to inform about each bow the anchor chain in the news .......

Why so excited? This "news" appeared on the USC website. Those. essentially for internal use and a narrow circle of readers.
Well, it’s as if in a country under the flag of which you are speaking, a new hamburger vending machine would be put in Soros’s office. The staff is pleased, someone rejoices from the sympathizers.

[Xscorpion]

Well, in general, this is not stated by the Ministry of Defense, but by journalists who need to earn money for bread. So there is less irony.

[kefan]

Yeah, the "pace" of frigate construction is impressive;

[VadimSt]

Yes! Some time ago, “Urya Patriots” was “defeated”, as it were, now this niche has been firmly occupied by others, “Everything has disappeared”.

[tchack]

NEXUSI hope he goes. I do not see other candidates.
The beginning of the 90s was more than enough. It will not be better.

[Alexey-74]

NEXUS,
65 will hit Putin this year ..... but I think for the 2nd term (after changes to the Constitution) he will go .... yes, in principle, there’s not much else

[Dart2027]

Quote from rudolf

This is the unification and standardization of attachment points, seats, electrical communications, under the existing avionics.

Yes, this is modularity.

Quote from rudolf

But the conveyor is not possible here. Even a separate gun mount, this is a piece production on a slipway. Too small series.

In the literal sense, yes, it is impossible, but the principle, when one workshop makes a large block, and passing it on, begins to make the same real. Actually the Germans did submarines in WWII.

[Dart2027]

Quote from rudolf

Yes, this is modularity.

I understand what you mean. It is literally impossible to assemble a ship from blocks; in any case, you will have to dock these blocks, lay communications, etc. Here the first two points intersect - we collect large blocks of large-capacity equipment separately, and then dock.
In terms of weapons, yes, I just brought the replacement of the gun as the simplest example.

Quote from rudolf

Modularity. A way to change the purpose of the ship after its construction by quickly replacing individual modules, both with weapons, and with avionics and other related equipment.
In short, this is all nonsense. My opinion.

In the literal sense, assembling ships as a constructor is really impossible, but you can put the possibility into the design relatively quick factory replacement, and this is another matter.
It is clear that a cruiser cannot be made from a minesweeper, but, for example, on the same minesweeper during construction it is possible to install a finished mast made entirely separately from it, and then during modernization in one fell swoop, remove it and replace it with a newer one. In general, blockiness is during construction and factory repairs, and all these containers are just a talking room.

[Vladislav Lazurchenko]

OH, stop quarreling guys
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