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TVC judged "Red Project"

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As it should be in any court, there are lawyers, prosecutors and jurors: Dmitry Kulikov and Nikolai Zlobin. All participating in the process are patriots of Russia, only one “for the whites”, others - “for the red”, “for Stalin” and “against Stalin”. Zlobin is even a Russian-American patriot, with dual citizenship, but this, as it were, adds to him objectivity: the very exclusive America is present in his face in this project. Maybe he was conceived as an understanding of our stories, but it turned out the court and even the show.




What do we see? Endless disputes: where is the truth, and where is the lie of our historians, about the particulars, about the numbers, about the missed opportunities, about the tear of the child and the unburied soldier - with pharisaic and deceitful indignations. It has long been said: do not judge, but you will not be judged: the victims of the “perestroika” of the USSR and the 90s will also judge you. Unfortunately, today we have no historians-philosophers of the scale of Karamzin, Klyuchevsky, Gumilev, A. Zinoviev, who could historically and authoritatively comprehend the twentieth century of Russia.

Gustave Flaubert said about the discussions around the events of the French Revolution: "Hatred of historical persons is nonsense." She is a lot in this discussion. Karamzin taught: “The ancestors were not more stupid than you,” but our experts do not know Karamzin. In pursuit of the scandalous details of the story, they do not attach importance to many fundamental facts, which are therefore left out of discussion, and their ancestors look like fools to them.

The Red Project, although it is more correct to say, the USSR, was part of the Western world communist project. In the West, he failed, in Russia, the weakest link of world powers, he won a political victory. It must always be remembered that this project was western and global in nature, since it influenced in the most serious way all stages of its implementation in the USSR.

In all the vicissitudes of the USSR, these moments played a big role, the party leaders of all deviations always remembered and argued about them, but this is unimportant for our experts. Therefore, for them, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev and his successors — all are Russian communists, and it is not clear why they were so hostile to each other, because everything worked as if for the sake of the USSR. It turns out - they were hostile because of their stupidity and cruelty. However, our experts are stupid here.

Today it is clear that the “Red Project” was a completely utopian, attempt to build a new Tower of Babel. The first communist builders believed in his scientific Marxist foundations; therefore, they were atheistly disregarding religious, philosophical and historical warnings, and thought that this had nothing to do with them. They are scientifically wrong, this can still be understood.

But how to understand our researchers and judges, who, it turns out, still believe in this utopia, or diligently do not notice it, because they judge the USSR from the height of this very utopia: they promised to build a society of freedom, justice and abundance, and built a Gulag ... And who then our researchers? After the victory of the revolution, utopias are impossible, but repressions are inevitable, as the French revolution has already shown. However, our researchers proceed from utopia, believe in utopia, and discard the actual story.

Lenin and Stalin, continuing to speak the correct "red" slogans, in fact were the first counter-revolutionaries, conducted a fundamental revision of the communist utopia, so she survived the whole world in defiance. The last word of Lenin was NEP, the actual return to market relations. Lenin introduced the NEP with all the power of his authority, and saved the revolution from economic collapse. Although many communists put party membership cards on the table in the days of the NEP and shot, because they did not understand why they fought in the Civil War.

Stalin rejected the idea of ​​a world revolution, threw all the resources of the country to create the material and technical basis of socialism, but in a single Russia-USSR. Neither Lenin nor Stalin could explain the essence of these decisions to the illiterate party masses, they would not understand them. And they talked about the creative development of Marxism and the fight against counterrevolution, which included all those who opposed them.

In general, Stalin began to revive the imperial traditions of Russia: pre-revolutionary culture headed by Pushkin, rejecting the post-revolutionary proletcult, relaxed the Church, restored the military history of Russia, all its commanders, and officer shoulder straps to the military, creatively developing Marxism! In 1934, for the first time, Stalin spoke about Soviet patriotism; before that, the world revolution was the homeland of the workers and peasants of the USSR! We can say at the last moment: before Hitler's attack, 7 years remained!

Trotsky understood everything, a theorist and a world permanent revolutionary, and his comrades: what did he threaten, and what did Stalin reject. Thus, the conflict between the Stalinist guards and the world-Trotskyist wing in the party was inevitable, and it was resolved by repression, as is customary in revolutionary times. If Trotsky and his supporters had won, the Stalinists would have been in the GULAG.

Stalin’s secretary, Bazhanov, who escaped to the West, in his memoirs, “Stalin from a short distance,” wrote: “But I’m not sure if Trotsky would have been if Stalin had been somehow removed from power, a less bloodthirsty tyrant than Stalin.” But Russia would become the firewood for fomenting its permanent world revolution: “Trotsky wanted to carry out a revolution against the Stalinist regime of power. Trotsky suggested that all left defend the USSR in the approaching war with Germany - to defend the October revolution. " That is, Trotsky proposed using the permanent world revolution to fight Hitler's fascism. Adventure is a weak definition for such a policy, it is a disaster!

The figure of Stalin, of course, is the most important in the post-Leninist development of the revolution in Russia; his most difficult challenges and trials fell on his reign. However, Stalin is judged from humanitarian heights, from vegetarian times they judge non-vegetarian, but revolutionary times. Stalin was not a humanist, he was a revolutionary. In revolutionary times there are revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries, and the humanists disappear somewhere, hide where they can. However, our judges are all asking: why is Stalin not a humanist?

Stalin, as an activist, was born in the flames of civil war, had revolutionary ethics, aesthetics and morality, therefore, when they come to judge him from the heights of humanism and democracy, they look either fools or scoundrels: you yourself would be in this whirlwind of revolution ? However, the Bandera Nazi revolution, with murders, repressions and secret prisons, does not disturb our liberal noses at all.

A revolution always creates chaos, therefore the appearance of a dictator’s figure, taming chaos, is inevitable. In the French Revolution, Napoleon became the dictator, in the Russian Revolution - Stalin. By the way, French historians put these figures in one row.

A man of civil war, Stalin continued it later on the external and internal fronts of the revolution. The gulag is a camp for prisoners in this war, and it was abolished when the revolution ended, in 1953, in connection with the death of Stalin. And came the post-revolutionary times of Khrushchev ...

The great justification of Stalin is a victory in the Great Patriotic War. And the creation of a material and technical base for this victory is also his merit. When the liberals, at the suggestion of their Western authorities, deny it, they mock at it, they show their intellectual stupidity and baseness: you live only because Stalin won this war. And in the 30-s defeated the Trotskyists.

The Russian revolution is also called egalitarian (the social lower classes of society have become its top). After the highly educated Leninist elite of revolutionaries passed away, for various reasons, this was fully reflected. It was not for nothing that at the end of his life Lenin called out: “To study, to study and once again to study,” but here you can’t help with appeals: any fruit must ripen ...

In the "Red Project" they spoke correctly about the small mind of Stalin's successors, starting with Khrushchev. After Stalin, the egalitarian revolution began to develop on its own social base: the era of simple solutions and the “fucking mother” began: poorly educated people are always prone to simple solutions to any questions.

However, Nikita Khrushchev, because of his ignorance, brought the communist utopia back to life: struggling with Stalinism and reviving the foundations of Marxism-Leninism, he began to fight the West for world peace and squander the inheritance of Stalin’s USSR around the world. In fact, he began to carry out the program of Trotsky: he threw the resources of the USSR into the furnace of the world revolution. Formally, Trotsky was the most consistent Marxist.

Khrushchev was so simple that he even set the dates: he promised the arrival of communism in 1980 year! And the last priest promised to show. If he had at least a parish education, he would have known that the Church never speaks about terms. Stalin had an Orthodox seminary behind his shoulders, a university education in comparison with his successors, by the way, he said: “Much rubbish will be inflicted on my grave,” he nevertheless had the gift of foresight ...

Khrushchev's return to life of the world communist utopia created the prerequisites for the collapse of the USSR. The egalitarian, illiterate elite of the party was unable to grasp the scale of the problems facing the country. The Moscow Philosophical Circle, which was headed by the front-line soldier A.Zinoviev, soberly assessed the situation, offered alternatives, but was declared dissident and defeated, A.Zinoviev himself was sent to the West.

... In the history of such revolutionary events happened more than once: "Cruel century - cruel hearts", - said the Poet long ago, this is the most accurate and capacious definition of the "Red Project" in Russia. The history is cyclical, all the facts speak for it, but our experts, for the most part, follow the western progressive theory which seeks progress everywhere, the top of which is Western democracy today, that is, the West. In other words, the West is building a new Tower of Babel, Western communism, according to Trotsky’s covenant, whose successors the American neocons openly call themselves. After all, in essence, communism is democracy, the USSR was a Soviet democracy ...

Democracy, how much blood has already been spilled on its altar ... Paraphrasing Leo Tolstoy, we can say that democracy today is the last refuge of scoundrels. When there is nothing to cover, they say: we have a democracy. In the "Red Project" Polish Marshal Pilsudski declared democracy, and this justified his concentration camps for the Red Army. So the liberals and the other West will soon be acquitted of Hitler: he, too, was democratically elected in comparison with Stalin.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 2 June 2017 07: 02 New
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    you live only because Stalin won this war. And in the 30s he defeated the Trotskyists.


    I agree ... from the height of today it is clearly visible that if there hadn’t been the foundation of the achievements laid down in the Stalin era, we would have neither cosmonautics, nor a powerful army, nor electrification, advanced science, etc.
    The Germans would be drinking their Bavarian beer on our territory now and would be kicking CHUBAIS ... so that they would clean the boots of the higher Aryan nation quicker.

    As for the Gulag ... I’ll say so Khrushchev, as it were, the expose of the personality cult STALIN personally sent people to this very Gulag and signed death sentences.
    Modern RUSSIA is still in an unstable state, both political and economic.
    still far from stability, prosperity and winning its place in the world.
    1. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 2 June 2017 09: 00 New
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      HOW CAN YOU JUDGE THE HISTORY?
      WHAT WAS, THAT WAS, AND THIS DOES NOT CHANGE .....
      when a cat has nothing to do, he licks his own eggs .... when zhurnalyugam has nothing to do, they are looking for someone to lick their ass ....
    2. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 2 June 2017 09: 29 New
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      Today it is clear that the Red Project was a completely utopian attempt to build a new tower of Babel.
      The red project may have been a utopia, but only in the hands of Trotsky, in the hands of Stalin, this project turned from utopia into reality. It is another matter that after Stalin the Trotskyist Khrushchev came to power and safely buried all the ideas laid down by Stalin. He destroyed the foundation that Stalin laid, the further destruction of a building called the USSR was only a matter of time.
      They promised to build a society of freedom, justice and abundance, and they built the Gulag ...
      But this is a complete FALSE! And if such comparisons are made, then let's see what actually happened at that time in the "civilized" world? For example, take the "city on the hill" of the United States. The Great Depression, people starving to death, widespread unemployment, and what is the American government doing? That's right, forcibly drove the population into labor camps, where it works not even for cents, but for pottage. Note, not for political reasons, but just because they created their own system a huge layer of society that were not needed and they found the same application. And NOBODY, NONE A liberal liberal monarchist sees this point blank and does not yell at every corner about the bloody American regime ...! I repeat NOBODY and NEVER condemns the United States for bloody crimes against its own people. According to our own monarchists, we all need to sprinkle ash on our heads and repent for the Gulag. And why? Yes, because under Stalin it was they who would have worked at the construction sites of socialism in the GULAG, like the enemies of the people, of which they really are! And, by the way, the content in the Gulag was much better and more humane than in the American labor camps.
      The Gulag was a necessary but necessary measure. Yesterday, someone did not watch the “Duel” with Solovyov ?! My hair stood on end from Sytin’s “revelations” ... No, the fact that he (as it were to say so softer) is rare ********, I already knew that, but so that I could openly declare my hatred of everything related to the word Russian, .... I don’t have normal words, just .... moderators will not understand! And what do you propose to do with such here ?! Do you think they were few in the 30s? For such a gulag, it’s the same as a sanatorium, such only at a cost. So ay, gentlemen monarchists, yesterday your own mirror appeared in the face of Sytin, yesterday you saw your own reflection, here is your true face!

      As for this program, this is another b * dollo show. To be honest, I’m tired of looking at the faces of these Russophobes, especially the Poles, Ukrainians and the Baltic states, especially with each other. Well, it would be at least smart enemies, but my cat does not have many times more intelligence than their combined! Ugh, look disgusting, this abomination is already sick!
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 2 June 2017 10: 07 New
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        My cat is also smart, only dirty from time to time.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 2 June 2017 11: 05 New
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          And I have a cat, a real intellectual and liberal - shitting anywhere, but without any pleasure and with visible disgust on the face. Maybe this is a fight for all the good against all garbage?
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 2 June 2017 10: 35 New
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        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        But this is a complete FALSE! And if such comparisons are made, then let's see what actually happened at that time in the "civilized" world?

        Documents on the "repressions" of 37 are still classified. All that is said about them is the invention of the sick on the head.
        "Doctor of Historical Sciences Yuri Zhukov talks about the falsification of Soviet history and the secrets of closed archives. What policies were promoted by Bukharin and Rykov, and how Stalin played on their contradictions with Zinoviev and Trotsky. Why was industrialization impossible without victory over the kulaks and Nepman."


        Books of Yuri Zhukov can be bought in the online store on this site: https://konzeptual.ru/catalogsearch/result/?q=Jury
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        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 2 June 2017 10: 55 New
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          Boris55 Today, 10: 35 ↑
          Documents on the "repressions" of 37 are still classified. All that is said about them is the invention of the sick on the head.
          Boris, my respect! hi I totally agree. The fact is that if all things are declassified, then I think it will come out such that all our monarchist liberals will have a very pale appearance.
          My great-grandfather was repressed in 1937. No one really knows, for nothing he was taken, nor his further fate, he disappeared and that’s all. But, which is typical, my grandmother, his daughter, who was left without a father, who survived the famine, who survived the occupation, did not say a bad word about Stalin, but her daughters, my mother and my aunt will still not leave after the frenzy of the 90s and they are taken to judge what they have no idea at all. One can judge who and why they took away only with the documents of the case on hand. If they took away from a denunciation, as they say, although they cannot know this (they weren’t in the project then either), then it would be nice to see this very denunciation. And so it's just blowing gas in the wind. Especially with Cossacks, if we dig deeper, then so much will come up and perhaps not very pleasant. So before you judge, you need to know thoroughly who and for what!
          And then, the time was such that there was no time to particularly understand, the war was on the nose. And even if someone came under repression by accident, this is not a reason to say that these repressions were a crime. It would be a crime not to purge before the war. The year 1941 showed very well that they were not cleaned up ...!
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 2 June 2017 11: 19 New
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            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            It would be a crime not to purge before the war. The 1941 year showed very well that they didn’t clean it ...!

            That's right. Restoring the vertical of power was vital. Why not clean up ... I think that due to lack of staff. Today Putin faces exactly the same problem ...
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 2 June 2017 15: 42 New
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              Not cleaned up because socialism is too humane a system.
              Quote: Boris55
              Today Putin faces exactly the same problem ...

              It is completely impossible to compare these two persons.

              PS. It should be noted that during the Second World War a huge number of real communist revolutionaries perished, including the very generation born on 20–25 that was to build a socialist society and develop the Red Project.
              hi
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 2 June 2017 15: 58 New
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                Quote: Stroporez
                It is completely impossible to compare these two persons.

                Why not? The revolution in 17. The arrival of Stalin in the 27. The restructuring of 91, Putin - in 2000. And one and the other got the “revolutionary” administrative apparatus from which it is necessary to get rid of. Each time has its own specifics, and the tasks facing them are the same. hi
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 2 June 2017 16: 13 New
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                  Yes, because to the 37th comrade Stalin whom it is necessary to clean already!))
                  And if without humor, then these two figures are completely different both in class beliefs and, most importantly, in scale!
                  Antipodes they are! hi
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 2 June 2017 16: 21 New
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                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Yes, because to the 37th comrade Stalin whom it is necessary to clean already!))

                    2037 is still a long way off :)
                    They are both for the interests of the majority, they are both Bolsheviks.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 2 June 2017 17: 34 New
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                      Quote: Boris55
                      2037 is still a long way off :)
                      They are both for the interests of the majority, they are both Bolsheviks.

                      If you are serious, then .... mmmm, then I have nothing to say here. request

                      Then I better congratulate you on the past Children's Day and the coming Friday!)) laughing drinks
                    2. Veter_73
                      Veter_73 4 June 2017 09: 51 New
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                      What is the Bolshevik of GDP? Rather, a monarchist, or maybe already a king, only men do not know. These personalities are not compatible. A person who has betrayed the Oath cannot be a respectable citizen.
            2. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 4 June 2017 03: 38 New
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              Quote: Boris55
              Today Putin faces exactly the same problem ...

              Are you serious? Putin himself announced in a straight line three or four years ago that he was the most ardent liberal in Russia. Judging by his actions, this is the main supporter of globalism and rapprochement with the West before joining NATO, most importantly on equal terms. (?) It is no coincidence that the entire legislative base of the country's recent history is being rewritten under Western patterns for what year. It is no accident that the President’s party sings to us about the need for further privatization of state assets as an inefficient owner. Indeed, why not? If the “effective manager” sits at the head of the Government, he can only translate arrows and prohibit 100W bulbs, as well as get into the WTO without soap, then the state administration, in their opinion, is not effective. Moreover, our "radiant" expresses full satisfaction with the work of this Government ...
              I would like to ask our "patriotic" supporters of "stability": Do you have a cognitive dissonance in the actions of our leader?
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 2 June 2017 11: 10 New
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          Quote: Boris55
          Why, without victory over fists and Nepman, industrialization was impossible. "

          But what kind of victory over the NEPman can be said if the NEP was simply administratively curtailed (by about 1931), while the role of the NEP itself in industrialization was very large, it would simply not have been, with its help, the country was restored after the Civil War. victory when the battle itself was not.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 2 June 2017 11: 22 New
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            Quote: bober1982
            But what kind of victory over the Nepman can be talked about

            The New Economic Policy allowed the kulaks to essentially set up a famine and slow down industrialization. That would simply administratively “collapse” the kulaks — it did not work out. (see movie above.)
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 2 June 2017 11: 33 New
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              What an absurdity.
              They replaced the surplus appraisal with a tax in kind, this saved the country from starvation, and you are talking about some kind of famine.
              NEP was adopted at the X Party Congress in 1921. and how could the NEP slow down industrialization? The country was in ruins.
              And what does it mean .......NEP allowed the fists to arrange .... where Lenin and the party looked in that case, this is nonsense.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 2 June 2017 14: 33 New
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                Quote: bober1982
                What an absurdity.

                Watch the video posted by me above. When viewing, pay attention to the dates.
        3. Dead duck
          Dead duck 2 June 2017 12: 57 New
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          Quote: Boris55
          Documents on the "repressions" of 37 are still classified

          With the filing of Khrushchev, many documents were destroyed.
          They were afraid that their signatures would "light up" and it might turn out that those who shouted most of all "to the ears in."
        4. Olgovich
          Olgovich 2 June 2017 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Boris55
          Documents on the "repression" of the 37th are still classified. All that is said about them


          For whom is this dull False?

          Published Collection of documents in 7 volumes GOSARCHIVA:
          "] The history of the Stalinist Gulag. The end of the 1920s - the first half of the 1950s."

          http://statearchive.ru/459&searched=%F0%E5%EF
          %F0%E5%F1%F1%E8%E8&highlight=ajaxSearch_highl
          ight + ajaxSearch_highlight1

          These are not beetles, these are co-secret documents on which in reality there was a country.
          Have you read all 7 volumes? No?
          What then to talk to you about? About your visions?

          PS Normal people SUCH (documents) to publish-could not.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 2 June 2017 15: 18 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            History of the Stalinist Gulag. The end of the 1920's - the first half of the 1950's.

            And who is the historian Solzhynitsin? No, thanks.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 3 June 2017 06: 11 New
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              Quote: Boris55
              And who is the historian Solzhynitsin? No, thanks.


              These are ARCHIVE DOCUMENTS which you so "lack".
              Since you don’t need them, well, what can I talk about with you? About the beetle-fly science fiction? No, really:
              Quote: Boris55
              No, thanks.
              1. nov_tech.vrn
                nov_tech.vrn 4 June 2017 10: 34 New
                +3
                correctly chosen statistics, a great thing, but even it refutes the ravings of one of the defendants on the cover page, his name is Solzhetsyn
            2. Veter_73
              Veter_73 4 June 2017 09: 59 New
              +2
              Solzhenitsyn is a traitor and agent of imperialism. In one word, an informer, pseudonym "Vladimirov".
            3. kalibr
              kalibr 4 June 2017 13: 23 New
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              Preface and documents - things are different!
          2. Pancir026
            Pancir026 3 June 2017 09: 18 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            these are Sov-top secret documents on which the country actually lived

            And what did they want to say, Mr. Distortor of Facts?
            Read pages 112-113, http: //statearchive.ru/assets/files/Gulag_1/01.p
            df. motives are clearly indicated. understanding among the working people the need for action in relation to the fists, are you against the majority? For terrorists and murderers?
            Or did your visions take on a persistent form of Russophobia strongly insisted on anti-Sovietism, and because of this, a complete misunderstanding of the time, place, situation and consequences for those who prevented the country from developing through its activities?
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 3 June 2017 13: 42 New
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              Quote: Pancir026
              And what did they want to say, Mr. Distortor of Facts?


              Read the DOCUMENT: Report to BALITSKY Berry, Evdokimov.

              All three shot, including behind fabrication of cases. You against Stalin purges ?! Are you a BAND OF Yagoda-Evdokimov-Balitsky ?! fool belay

              What's wrong with you?! belay lol
              1. Pancir026
                Pancir026 3 June 2017 13: 45 New
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                Quote: Olgovich
                All three were shot, including for fabricating cases

                And?
                They were shot for participating in the Trotskyist conspiracy, including for fabricating cases, so that the cleanings were correct. It’s a pity that they didn’t clean them all. Because the untreated ones prove this with their fuss.
                Quote: Olgovich
                Z and BANDS of Yagoda-Evdokimov-Balitsky ?!
                What's wrong with you?!

                Nothing is with me, but your mediocre attempt to stick yours to me ... is an empty undertaking. Your lies are easily verified and beaten with facts, and your dubious references to Solzhenitsyn and his ilk smell like fake.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 3 June 2017 15: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  And?
                  For participating in the Trotskyist conspiracy, including for fabricating cases, they were shot, so that the purges were correct


                  So you refer to the documents written by these Gangsters, as the truth ?! belay fool Nothing broke with you?
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  nothing about me, but your mediocre attempt to stick to me ..empty idea.

                  Full-you themselves referred to the bandit Balitsky lol
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  Your lies are easily verified and beats with facts, and your dubious references to Solzhenitsyn and his ilk reek of fake.

                  Where is it a lie? AT State Archive Documents? fool lol
                  WHERE are the links to Solzhenitsyn? fool
                  You’re completely confused, it’s a pity to look at you .... yes
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 3 June 2017 15: 41 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Where is the FALSE? In the documents of the State Archive

                    Where is the lie? Documents of the Cheka, the NKVD, the MGB, the KGB, the FSB are not stored in the state archive. They have their own archive.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 3 June 2017 16: 19 New
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                      Quote: Boris55
                      Where is the lie? Documents of the Cheka, NKVD, MGB, KGB, FSB are not stored in the state archive. They have their own archive

                      Once again I propose to get acquainted with the seven-volume of the State Archive: there ALL links to documents are indicated, incl. TSA FSB.
                      If you them don't want to knowis another matter.
                      1. Pancir026
                        Pancir026 3 June 2017 18: 09 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        If you do not want to know them, this is another matter.

                        My dear, you again lie.
                        The first is your comment, in which you lie about the lack of bread- "Olgovich May 24, 2017 07:59 ↑
                        Quote: kepmor
                        well, olgovich
                        Stuck on the stable.
                        Quote: kepmor
                        tell, together with the Romanov monarchist, about the "milk rivers and the jelly banks" in pre-revolutionary Russia ... it's funny to listen to this nonsense for the thousandth time ...
                        Is there really a school for the poor? belay
                        Owls Bulganin’s secret report today is no secret. They were able to eat meat and milk, as in 1913, after 40 years, and bread even later.
                        Quote: kepmor
                        will you not be the descendants of the Trotskyists with A. Romanov’s case? "
                        Second, you are lying here, you have been given a link to your own material. From the state archive where the RUSSIAN language says how the population assessed the fact of defeat in kulach rights.
                        You pretended that this is not so you lie when you stop thinking about what they did not say for others?
                        These gentlemen, Foreword A.I. Solzhenitsin;
                        Foreword by R. Conquest;
                        History of the Stalinist Gulag: A Brief Overview
                        the main problems and concepts; in the book of books published under the name of the State Archive, they already show lies there a carriage and a cart.
                        All actions of the authorities at that time are based on the LAW, whether you like it or not, it does not matter.
                        The OGPU by-laws are based on the Criminal Code of the USSR and the Union republics. So yours and the compilers of this book, biased facts, are just a pseudo-lie.
                      2. Boris55
                        Boris55 4 June 2017 10: 02 New
                        0
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        there ALL links to documents are indicated, including TSA FSB.

                        Links? laughing
                    2. kalibr
                      kalibr 4 June 2017 13: 24 New
                      0
                      You first look into the GARF. On the site, it is clear. The seat does not fall off!
                2. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 3 June 2017 20: 12 New
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                  The first is your comment in which you lying about the lack of bread -
                  "

                  Lying, as you see, YOU: I have a COMPARISON with 1913 year: the consumption of bread per capita was LESS in 1953 than in 1913. The prosperity-disadvantage was not mentioned at all.
                  where in RUSSIAN language it is written how the fact of defeat in the rights of kulakh was estimated by the population.

                  Not by the population, but executed later for fabrication by BANDITS. I repeat once more; you refer to “documents” written by them as truth! Nothing broke with you? lol

                  in the bookstore published under the name of the State Archives, already show-lies there is a carriage and a cart.

                  There documents indicating sources of. Examine and prove falsehood and fake. You can not? Well, how did you say there, softly what?

                  All actions of the authorities at that time are based on the LAW, whether you like it or not, it does not matter.


                  The actions of the authorities of those years convicted the current legislation of the Russian Federation, which you must respect- like you or not. And your incompetent opinion is the least that interests

                  PS what did you close me the opportunity to answer?
                  Of Truth are you afraid Right, be afraid! yes
                  1. Pancir026
                    Pancir026 4 June 2017 10: 38 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Are you afraid of the truth? Right, be afraid!

                    Fear, be afraid. Mr. Krivoust.
                    Pancir026 May 27, 2017 22:12 p.m. ↑
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Olgovich Today, 10:34
                    And ... I remembered who it was ... this is Alexander in a new nickname ... the one that flaunts a phrase, they say, only by age 60 they ate bread in the country .. well, let's get down to defeat ...
                    S. Yu. Witte wrote that “all this material is rich data for all research and even for all scientific research” [Witte S. Yu. Memoirs. T. 2.M., 1960., p. 558]. After analyzing these data, the 1901 Commission made "a general conclusion about the extremely unsatisfactory state of agricultural production in most agricultural areas embracing the entire center, the whole east and even part of the south and ... about less successful development or even a decline in welfare in this vast area" [Materials ... 1903, T. 3, p. 280].
                    S. Yu. Witte wrote the following about the results of the work of another commission, the “Special Meeting on the Needs of the Agricultural Industry”: “... From the materials of this agricultural meeting, any researcher will see that in the minds of all the leaders of the province at that time, i.e. 1903-1904 the idea wandered about the need to make some reforms to prevent the scourge of the revolution ... All revolutions come from the fact that governments do not satisfy the urgent needs of the people ”[Witte 1960, p. 538].
                    In a cover note to the journals of the Special Conference, Witte informed the tsar that the established order rests only on the patience of the peasantry and that it has been overstressed for too long [cit. by: Milov L.V. (ed.) History of Russia. XX - the beginning of the XXI century. M. 2008, p. 92].
                    Receive and sign, read and no longer lie.
                    “Every year the Russian army becomes more and more ill and physically incapable ...”, wrote in 1909 one of the leaders of the Black-Hundred movement, M. O. Menshikov. “The frail youth are threatening to overwhelm the military infirmaries.” Poor nutrition in the village, wandering life on earnings ... - these are the reasons for physical exhaustion ... About 40 percent of new recruits ate meat for the first time upon entering military service. In the service of the soldiers, in addition to good bread, they eat excellent meat soup and porridge, i.e. something that many do not already have a clue about in the village ... ”[M. Menshikov. Youth and Army. October 13, 1909 // Menshikov M.O. From letters to neighbors. M., 1991, p. 109, 110].
                    “Poor nutrition, followed by complete starvation ... results in the deterioration of people's health,” wrote A. A. Kaufman, a prominent economist and one of the cadet leaders, “not only the direct physical degeneration of the masses. This is clearly seen from the data on the number of those rejected upon admission to military service ... ”[A. Kaufman. Agrarian Question in Russia. M., 1918, p. 56].
                    Powerfully you yourself ... as a non-commissioned officer widow you cut ... everything that you write here is more about the peasantry. It is written in your manuals, like these ..
                    One of the apostles of the Cold War, J. Kenan, in 1967 called on Western historians to show the positive features and achievements of the tsarist autocracy [V. Tyukavkin. Great Russian peasantry and Stolypin agrarian reform. M., 2001, p. 26).
                    The works of P. Gregory, P. Gatrell, J. Simms, S. Hawk [Gregory P. Russian National Income. 1885-1913. Cambridge, 1982; Gatrell P. The Tsarist Economy. 1850-1917. NY, 1986; Simms J. The Crisis in Russian Agriculture at the End of Nineteenth Century: A Different View // Slavic Review. 1977. Vol. 36. N 3; Hoch S. On Good Numbers and Bad: Malthus, Population Trends and Peasant Standard of Living in Late Imperial Russia // Slavic Review. 1994. Vol. 53. N 1] emphasized these achievements; their authors tried to prove that the Russian agricultural economy was on the path of progressive development, and the level of consumption was increasing.
                    In this case, however, sometimes not quite correct methods were used. So, P. Gregory, estimating the total consumption of peasants, did not take into account the consumption of oats and a number of other crops and carried out the calculation not in physical but in terms of value, which overestimated the result due to the outstripping growth in the production of more expensive breads [Gregory P. Economic history of Russia: what we we know about it and what we don’t know. Evaluation of the economist // Economic History. Yearbook. 2000.M., 2001., p. 36].
                    In addition, the American author compared only the five years of 1885-1889 and 1897-1901, although S. Witcroft showed that consumption fluctuated greatly over the five years, and choosing dates for comparison, you can get any result you want for the researcher [Wheatcroft S. Crises and the Condition of the Peasantry in Late Imperial Russia // Peasant Economy, Culture and Politics of European Russia. Princeton, 1991, p. 134, 172].

                    So who do you actually work for? If you use manuals from the Cold War period on this issue?
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 4 June 2017 11: 20 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Pancir026
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Are you afraid of the truth? Right, be afraid!
                      Fear, be afraid. Mr. Krivoust.


                      Is that ALL that could be born ?! So you are for the shot thugs who came up with the opinion of the people, and at the same time - against the Scrap, lol

                      PS Stop To steal strangers articles and print under YOUR name.
                      Stealing is SINNY! yes lol
              2. Boris55
                Boris55 3 June 2017 15: 39 New
                +2
                Quote: Olgovich
                Are you a BAND OF Yagoda-Evdokimov-Balitsky ?!

                Personally, I am against the Trotskyists. With the advent of Stalin to power in the 27 year (although Trotsky fled to Turkey only in the 30, and his followers still live) and the appointment of Beria, the number of sentences decreased by orders of magnitude. The Trotskyists, who joined the ranks of the Bolsheviks in the 17, significantly exceeded the strength of the CPSU (B.), But today this gave them the opportunity to blame all who were not responsible for blaming their atrocities.
                There is a desire to be afraid - come here, you can speak frankly, without fear of being subject to repression (banned): http://klin.forum-top.ru/
      3. lukewarm
        lukewarm 2 June 2017 13: 32 New
        +7
        You can’t say better! In general, and specifically
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        another b * dolo show. To be honest, I'm tired of looking at the faces of these Russophobes

        Why is still called on the show of these types? For the peppercorn? Not heard enough yet? For whipping and releasing steam? Probably. If you don’t show these m * auses, then people will search for the guilty in another place.
      4. Brother Fox
        Brother Fox 2 June 2017 14: 16 New
        10
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        The Great Depression, people starving to death, widespread unemployment, and what is the American government doing? That's right, forcibly drove the population into labor camps, where it works not even for cents, but for pottage.


        I can add: At a time when people in the USA were starving and living at the expense of alms, i.e. during the Great Depression, American politicians forced farmers to bury their produce in the ground, explaining that it would somehow straighten their economy. So then they washed. It came to an internal schism and a revolution, but Hitler saved them - starting a war.
      5. NIKNN
        NIKNN 2 June 2017 18: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        So ay, gentlemen monarchists, yesterday your own mirror appeared in the face of Sytin, yesterday you saw your own reflection, here is your true face!

        Diana, one at a time ... on one cattle, never in life when you need to measure an organization or another society ... Monarchism, as such, could always be attributed to a trend that defends national interests, but you bring concepts of one as a program of the whole movement ....
        but in order to so openly declare his hatred of everything connected with the word Russian,
        , this is not "monarchism" from the word at all ... This time and the Communist Party well, it’s not at all what it should generally be .... Alas, there is a substitution of concepts and a typical brand capture by those who have no idea about these brands. ... I understand that you are outraged .... that is when a person is outraged you need to be careful about your emotions. hi
        PS: I almost forgot, I'm not a monarchist! this, that would not indiscriminately take me anywhere ... wink hi
      6. Forester
        Forester 3 June 2017 08: 53 New
        +3
        Regarding the United States, I would like to add, during the time of the Great Depression, they not only drove them to labor camps, but they set up roadblocks on the roads in the southern and western states in order to allow unemployed people from the northern and eastern states. Set with orders until the opening fire on defeat!
        Why is no one talking about this?
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 4 June 2017 21: 24 New
          0
          And why should our problems always be measured on an American arshin? There aren’t enough sausages, but there they hang the blacks!
      7. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 5 June 2017 14: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Well, it would be at least smart enemies, but my cat does not have many times more intelligence than their combined! Ugh, look disgusting, this abomination is already sick!

        maybe of course I delve into conspiracy theology, but I have a suspicion that this is precisely what salt is in. if they were to instill some ideas, they would definitely find someone smarter, and so ... it’s the same as sticking a sign “these are monarchists” in a pile of manure, and “this is an opposition” in another.
    3. Victor Kamenev
      2 June 2017 09: 38 New
      +2
      Today, the whole world is in an unstable state ... However, a big plus is that the country has overcome the egalitarian consequences of the revolutionary era, Russia is formed not worse than the West, and maybe better, especially in elite circles, judging by the paranoia in the West.
      This is a great advantage of Russia ...
      1. Forester
        Forester 3 June 2017 09: 01 New
        +1
        Highly controversial issue repeat
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 2 June 2017 09: 49 New
      +7
      The author with Marxism is not very. The Red Project is the only TV show dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, and history is not judged on it, unlike the Russophobe Svanidze. It should also be taken into account that the level of the modern viewer in understanding Marxist theory is an order of magnitude lower than in the USSR. Therefore, in the program “Red Project”, a material flow appropriate for understanding is used.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 2 June 2017 14: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: siberalt
        with Marxism is not very


        The "Red Project", although it is more correct to say - the USSR, was part of the Western world communist project.

        What is it like?
    5. MrK
      MrK 2 June 2017 12: 06 New
      10
      Quote: The same Lech
      As for the Gulag ... I’ll say so Khrushchev, as it were, the expose of the personality cult STALIN personally sent people to this very Gulag

      I completely agree. Moreover, Khrushchev did not give a damn about the arrests and executions of ordinary people. His entire report at the 20 congress was dedicated to Stalin’s accusations that he planted and shot prominent Bolsheviks and marshals. Those. the elite.
    6. gladcu2
      gladcu2 2 June 2017 20: 52 New
      +5
      It is strange when they say that the Soviet economy lost the Cold War. This is not the economy lost, this government turned out to be corrupt. Everything is in order with the economy; otherwise, World War II would have ended not in Berlin, but in Moscow.

      And about the Gulag ... We lived well, since I did not want to work. Under Capitalism, he is forced to work, there his whole life is the Gulag.
  2. Moore
    Moore 2 June 2017 07: 09 New
    +5
    Thank you, everything is very objective.
    As always, the relevant question is: “And who are the judges?” Lilliputians judge Gulliver ...
    The only thing about the "refuge of villains" is Samuel Johnson, and our Great Thinker only translated this phrase and, as they say in court papers, used it at his discretion.
    Its original meaning is just the opposite: the villains turn to patriotism when they overtake on all sides and there is a chance that they will beat.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      2 June 2017 09: 44 New
      +3
      Great thoughts generally hover in the world, and Samuel Jones can find predecessors. But we do not know him, and we know Lev Nikolayevich, and he will be bigger. As for the meaning, it is so balanced: patriotism is not a guarantee against rascality and meanness.
      1. Moore
        Moore 2 June 2017 10: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        and Lev Nikolaevich - we know, and he will be bigger. As for the meaning, it is balanced: patriotism is not a guarantee against villainy and meanness.

        Tolstoy’s knowledge does not cancel his use of someone else’s phrase in his context. Moreover, this context is not about the absence of a guarantee against villainy, but about the equalization of one with the other. The “Mate’s Human” (C) had a very original look at the essence of patriotism and the universe as a whole, which made him spit on both churchmen and the authorities. Which, of course, does not detract from its merits.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 2 June 2017 08: 04 New
    +9
    Nikita Khrushchev, in his illiteracy, brought back to life the communist utopia: fighting against Stalinism and reviving the foundations of Marxism-Leninism
    ... Khrushchev, and was not a Marxist .. he, that the socialists are utopians, that the Marxists, everything was one ..
  4. Olgovich
    Olgovich 2 June 2017 08: 18 New
    +5
    Today it is clear that the “Red Project” was a utopian attempt to build a new tower of Babel

    And like any utopia, naturally crashed. It’s infinitely sorry that the country collapsed because of this ....

    Convulsive attempts to “revive” the utopia with blind poking in all directions in search of solutions, led to millions of victims of dispossession, famines, and repression.

    However, our judges ask everything: Why is Stalin not a humanist?


    The author is pretending to put it mildly.
    Question and affirm other: in the country not observed acting Constitution and others USSR lawsadopted by the way most this power. This is the bottom line. All these dispossession, deportations, deprived persons, repressions, executions, triples were illegal from the point of view of the then Legislation of the USSR.
    What is recognized by the state by the current laws of the Russian Federation. The author does not agree with them? Let him file with the COURT,
    rather than inventing ridiculous arguments about the need to violate the Laws.

    By the way, there is a decision of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation:
    For a long time the country was dominated by a regime of unlimited, violence-based power by a narrow group of communist functionaries, united in the political bureau of the CPSU Central Committee, headed by the Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee.


    The author is also illiterate, but a believer:
    he said to them: “A lot of rubbish will be put on my grave,” he still had the gift of foresight ...

    He never said this to any Kollontai.
    He invents, he believes fool lol

    PS about the army: due to dispossession, repression, shootings, the country lost hundreds of thousands of warriors- several armies.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      2 June 2017 09: 49 New
      +4
      Laws are written by people, it is ridiculous that they are accused of their non-observance. Constitutions are never and never respected when it comes to. Observe, whenever possible, and when secured, then the commandments of God - to the cat, not so much as the Constitution. Consider the example of the United States, Donald Trump ...
      1. analgin
        analgin 2 June 2017 09: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Laws are written by people, it is ridiculous that they are accused of their non-observance. Constitutions are never and never respected when it comes to. Observe, whenever possible, and when secured, then the commandments of God - to the cat, not so much as the Constitution. Consider the example of the United States, Donald Trump ...

        What is wrong with Trump and the US Constitution?
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 2 June 2017 11: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Laws are written by people, it is ridiculous that they accuse them of non-compliance. Constitutions are never respected anywhere when impatient.

        First, sorry for the excessive, probably sharpness hi
        Secondly: other criteria for relations in society, except for the implementation of the Laws by its members, were not invented. Bad yes, imperfect yes, sometimes non-binding yes, but nothing else.
        The expediency and justice of each is his own and will never suit everyone. Therefore, it is necessary to adhere to the Laws of ALL and in the process of EVOLUTION to improve and change them if necessary, IMHO.
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      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 2 June 2017 11: 02 New
        21
        IvanTheTerrible Today, 10:45 ↑
        Lawlessness and arbitrariness are the heart of Soviet power
        They climbed out the monarchs. We are talking about such people: the war did not tidy up all the "sick" ...! laughing
        With your slogans you need in Kashchenko, in the chamber next to the "Napoleon" and "Hitler" ... laughing
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 2 June 2017 11: 57 New
          +5
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          We they say about such people: not all the "sick" war cleaned up ...!
          With your slogans you need in Kashchenkoto the ward next to "Napoleon" and "Hitler"


          You have strange sayings in Kashchenko. request Although .... the specifics of the institution allows yes .
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 2 June 2017 16: 31 New
        13
        Lawlessness and arbitrariness? This is not about the USSR. The same Gulag. My mother is from a dispossessed family. I spent my childhood and youth in the orphanage, because the family was "repressed." So she says - in the case, except for her father. Father was later released and rehabilitated. And his brothers, yes, spoiled the Soviet regime as they could. The real criminals were. So with the law and objectivity in the Union was normal, even in the 30s. In the late 80s it was worse. But this was no longer socialism.
        1. IvanTheTerrible
          IvanTheTerrible 2 June 2017 17: 10 New
          +3
          Decent people were your uncles, then. Resistance to the criminal regime that seized power by arms, force and terror is not a right, but the duty of everyone. If you do not resist evil by force, then you accept it.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 2 June 2017 20: 34 New
            10
            The crime of something is determined by the court. Whoever solves this issue on his own is a criminal himself. Learn the law, and not balabolte in vain.
            1. IvanTheTerrible
              IvanTheTerrible 2 June 2017 21: 02 New
              +4
              The Bolsheviks abolished the court and laws, creating in their place courts, which accused people of criminals only because they belong to the counter-revolutionary class or have solid private property. It is as if a party of revolutionary homosexuals seized power in the country, abolished previous legalizations as survivals of a heterosexual past, and began to persecute all who sleep with women.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 2 June 2017 22: 00 New
                10
                You have something with your head.
              2. Forester
                Forester 3 June 2017 09: 06 New
                +3
                And what about Lensky, you can explain?
    3. 34 region
      34 region 2 June 2017 11: 05 New
      +9
      08.18. Olgovich! Weird! The Bolsheviks shot all the best people only for thoughts against the Bolsheviks! But the opponents of the Bolsheviks had time to show their best qualities! It was in the Civil, in the Patriotic, in the 90s. And how did dissenting opponents of the Bolsheviks prove themselves? What good deeds have they noted? There was one citizen who became a victim of repression, because he, with his * kindness * crushed the Warsaw uprising. And the hero-Bandera !?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 2 June 2017 12: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: 34 region
        Bolsheviks shot all best people only for thoughts against the Bolsheviks!

        Quote: 34 region
        And how did dissenting opponents of the Bolsheviks prove themselves?

        How could those shot only for THOUGHT, could they also do something ?! belay request lol
        1. 34 region
          34 region 2 June 2017 13: 40 New
          +4
          12.59. Olgovich! But this is not my claim that they were shot for thoughts. This is the oligopods inspire us.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 2 June 2017 14: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: 34 region
            12.59. Olgovich! But this is not my claim that they were shot for thoughts. This is the oligopods inspire us.


            I can only repeat the question: How could those shot only for THOUGHTS have something to do in time ?! belay request lol
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 2 June 2017 13: 42 New
          15
          Olgovich Today, 12: 59 ↑
          As shot only for THOUGHTS
          If the Bolsheviks only shot "for thoughts against the Bolsheviks", you would not be here and you would not be scribbling your anti-communist libel. Because then your ancestors would be shot only with one thought to conceive you! laughing laughing laughing
          could also have time to do something ?!
          But what they managed to do you very sadly was not the best creation of the human race ... negative
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 2 June 2017 14: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            If

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            would not be

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            would not scribble

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            would be shot

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            that

            One “would” is the wealth of the “loser.” lol
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            And here is what they managed make you very sad, not the best creation of the human race


            Yes, lot same for topic of article you managed to squeeze yourself out fool lol
            1. Forester
              Forester 3 June 2017 09: 13 New
              +3
              The question is, actually, where were you 35–40 years ago? Why didn’t they protest against the party and the state? Why did they enjoy the benefits of a society-study, treatment, work, housing? Why didn’t they give up all this? Why did they speak at party meetings and pay party contributions? Why? Or have not been born yet? Then "do not judge, let not you be judged"
              Question by the way to all monarchists
  5. Semenov
    Semenov 2 June 2017 08: 25 New
    12
    Near Stalin, the rest of the general secretaries are just the dust of history. What he did for the country is quite comparable with the acts of Ivan the Terrible. And it’s already embarrassing for the Presidents, Putin is still doing something with an eye on the “world community”.
  6. Basarev
    Basarev 2 June 2017 08: 39 New
    +4
    It turns out that the USSR was doomed initially? In ideological terms, this is so.
    1. avt
      avt 2 June 2017 09: 36 New
      18
      Quote: Basarev
      It turns out that the USSR was doomed initially? In ideological terms, this is so.

      It turns out that, for starters, it would be good to-, Learn, study and still study. "Knowing the World by comparison. And do not carry bullshit
      Quote: Basarev
      In ideological terms, this is so.

      And Christianity, as an ideology in fact, is also
      Quote: Basarev
      doomed initially?

      What ? Do believers and priests preach the doctrine right through the commandments? fool Moreover, there is an ideology when the very fall of the USSR in pure water is the biblical story about the sale of the birthright for lentil stew! If the bearers of the ideology of the highest echelon betrayed the preached idea for the sake of - that we have everything, but we don’t have anything for it, "which over the course of history there have been more than one, not two, but with the same monarchy in February 1917, when the entom heavy drinker of God was merged by OWN.What is the ideology, dead without carriers? ", they say ask her.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 2 June 2017 14: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: avt
        I’m a story about the sale of the birthright for lentil stew! If the carriers of the ideology of the highest echelon betrayed the preached idea


        Ay-yai-yay: they cleaned, they cleaned the game, they beat, they beat their own - one day the diamonds had to stay, but no, the traitors "made their way!" belay And, after all, most importantly, they were brought up not by some damned tsarism, but by the leader of all the leaders! Incomplete, probably .... lol

        By the way, what kind of regime was such that even hisCarriers ideologies of the highest echelon " lol even could not provide "lentil soup" ?! belay request
        1. avt
          avt 2 June 2017 18: 41 New
          +4
          Quote: Olgovich
          Ay-yai-yay: they cleaned, they cleaned the game, they beat, they beat their own - one day the diamonds had to stay, but no, the traitors "made their way!"

          Aya! The brain of the people was fooled by the divinity and the sacred special ampirator, and the then, almost the same nobleness of the first echelon of the throne, then
          Quote: Olgovich
          By the way, what kind of regime was this that even its “carriers of ideology of the highest echelon” could not provide “lentil soup” ?!

          For the same “lentil stew", well, that’s closer to the throne’s trough and slurp so that the extra ones don’t jostle. These very ampirators are either forked to the side so that they die from “colic” like, then snuff into the temple and stifle a scarf for fidelity, then at the station “Bottom” press, they say pour in a glass, when you sign something, but do not sign, then keep in mind - the guards, headed by a relative, have already taken the future saint under arrest. Moreover, Ulyanov / Lenin and Tavai didn’t seem to get cabbage yet — he didn’t come close to the sealed car. So, aspad candidates for aristocrats from the club of the noble assembly of the Proletarsky district before blaming the communists.
          Quote: avt
          ,,Study, study and study again. "

          Gistoria of the Motherland
          Quote: avt
          "Knowing the World by comparison. And do not carry bullshit

          In order to understand the processes, regardless of the ideology operating in the Time span.
          Quote: IvanTheTerrible
          The USSR was created as an incubator of small-town nationalisms, so it was only a matter of time before the ripened fruits of the "strangers" pierce the chest of the incubator body and burst out.

          Then such nonsense as a scientist would not have to be borne, but somehow deign to deign before - Why, after the fall of the institution of the monarchy, the Empire collapsed, and since the time of the Provisional Government, slowly but surely to those very national states. And the fact that the Bolsheviks found a different way to assemble the Empire, well, just like that with the fall of central power, they all again scrambled right down the spiral into national apartments. Actually, as indicated in the article, the biblical version of Babylon was repeated. And completely! This is me about the persecution of the Russian language. It was Lenin, coupled with Trotsky, well, since the ex-Empire with the entire population had to be thrown into the furnace in the form of fuel for the World Revolution. They planned to introduce the Latin alphabet not only for the national republics, but also for Russia. Lenin really spoke to Civilian — later, they say, later. Lunacharsky, well, oooh, lobbied very much - we’ll be closer to the European proletariat. Well, a bloody tyrant and paranoid "Stalin took all this .... along with ,, Lenin’s guard." Now, from the filthy swamps whose shadows rise "with the Latin alphabet .... in the Moscow metro for the time being in the form of inscriptions for tourists ...
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 3 June 2017 06: 28 New
            +1
            This
            Quote: avt
            For the same, “lentil stew", well, that would be closer to the throne at the throne and slurp so that the extra do not push

            answer to the question:
            Quote: Olgovich
            By the way, what kind of regime was this that even its “carriers of ideology of the highest echelon” could not provide “lentil soup” ?!
            lol fool AND THIS:
            Quote: avt
            Aya! The brain of the people was fooled by the divinity and the sacred special ampirator, and the then, almost the same nobleness of the first echelon of the throne, then
            response to the fact of mass self-destruction "of the country's most progressive force? fool lol
            Quote: avt
            Quote: avt
            ,,Study, study and study again. "
            Gistoria of the Motherland

            This is necessary for the disappeared "merchants" who are still in a stupor: why didn’t anyone protect them?
            Quote: avt
            The empire collapsed, and since the reign of the Provisional Government, slowly but surely to those very national states.

            And does IT offer others to learn ?! belay lol
            Quote: avt
            . And the fact that the Bolsheviks found a different way to assemble the Empire,

            fool
            Quote: avt
            Well, ,, bloody tyrant and paranoid "Stalin

            I agree. but without quotes.
            1. avt
              avt 3 June 2017 10: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: Olgovich
              response to the fact of mass self-destruction "of the country's most progressive force?

              This is a statement of fact for the under-aristocrats of the Proletarian region.
              Quote: Olgovich
              response to the fact of mass self-destruction "of the country's most progressive force?

              This is for intellectuals, for knowing the processes in the World, and not for adherents of the sect of Sytin and other daydreams, “nobility”, whom they will not see, but stubbornly stretching yoke of a serf to pull. But understanding that something is not right, it’s good to yoke to fasten on all together. In all the same thing - to teach fools - only to spoil.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 3 June 2017 13: 52 New
                +1
                Quote: avt
                This is a statement of fact for the under-aristocrats of the Proletarian region

                There is a meaningless set of words and this is a fact .:
                : Quote: avt
                Aya! The brain of the people was fooled by the divinity and the sacred special ampirator, and the then, almost the same nobleness of the first echelon of the throne, then

                Quote: avt
                It for intellectuals , for the knowledge of the processes in the World, and not for the adherents of the sect named after Sytin and other dreamers, “nobility”, whom they would not see, but stubbornly stretching the yoke of the serf. together

                Yes Yes...
                What is your last name, thinker? Spinoza? Jean Jacques Rousseau?

                Marcus Aurelius?

                The red-haired man was silent, crushed by a fair accusation.
                lol
                Quote: avt
                the same thing - to teach fools - only to spoil.


                At least try on yourself. yes
    2. IvanTheTerrible
      IvanTheTerrible 2 June 2017 10: 49 New
      +3
      Not only ideological: in world history there is no example of the continued existence of a state entity in the form of a federation of national republics with the right to leave the elite and international elite, recruited on the basis of negative selection. The USSR was created as an incubator of small-town nationalisms; accordingly, it was only a matter of time before the ripened fruits of "strangers" pierce the chest of the incubator body and burst out.
      Ps RF carefully continues the same policy of the incubator state.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 2 June 2017 11: 22 New
        +2
        So I say - the NEP and the course towards building socialism in one state have devalued all the efforts of the October Revolution. In fact, exactly the same reforms could be carried out in the empire, without mass casualties. It turns out that all the bloodshed of the seventeenth year was in vain. And people were dying for nothing.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 2 June 2017 11: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Basarev
          So I say - NEP and the course towards building socialism in one state have depreciated all the efforts of the October Revolution

          NEP is a return to capitalism. Socialism is a new formation of society. The NEP discounted the revolution, and the building of socialism in the USSR is a reality, and its right to coexist in the USSR was defended in the struggle against the united bourgeoisie of the whole world in the Second World War.
          Quote: Basarev
          It turns out that all the bloodshed of the seventeenth year was in vain.

          Khrushchev, Brezhnev Gorbachev - destroyed all the conquests of the USSR.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 2 June 2017 12: 58 New
            +3
            I would say - completed the destruction of conquests. I think the seventeenth should go to the end. Since they have taken over the world, then do not whimper and fight, regardless of the victims. It wasn’t necessary to rub rudely about the world revolution from the very beginning. And regarding the conquests - the USSR did not conquer anything. Revolution, civil war and intervention squandered all the wealth of the empire, sucked the people to the last drop. In fact, all socialism and the entire Marxist canoe had already gone bankrupt. NEP was needed only for one purpose: by introducing the elements of capitalism, let the people get a little rich ... To rob it again. Although, in a good way, you just had to admit that your business was lost and, having thrown red stars with sickles, began to build normal Western-type capitalism in the country. Perhaps now they did not differ in standard of living from Canada so similar to us. One thing should be understood: all kinds of ideologies are there to the people, and only dark fanatics believe in them.
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 2 June 2017 20: 37 New
      +9
      After such questions, you should take off your epaulettes. They are not insane by definition.
    4. kalibr
      kalibr 4 June 2017 21: 26 New
      +1
      Yes! The building built on the sand will not stand!
      1. Pancir026
        Pancir026 4 June 2017 21: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Yes!

        If termites are wound up in the building, then they will nibble everything.
        In your declining years, would you think about the soul or something ...
        The answer is that the Most High will have to give. Starting from the dressing room, on the scales, everything will show how much they lied when they twisted their souls, and when they just surrendered what they served.
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 2 June 2017 09: 01 New
    15
    The USSR was built on the principle of the public above the private, the Anglo-Saxons build on the principle of the private above the public, so who is more viable? The one who rowed everything for himself destroying everything in a circle, destroying production (remove competitors), patents for medicines (let the rich survive), products to landfill just to save prices, degradation of education (people should not understand the reasons for their troubles) ... And another system where a person works for the benefit of others (only about errors is not necessary, the main thing is important). So in my opinion capitalism is not viable, does not crawl out of crises and wars, problems are solved by criminal means by robbing others who are weaker.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 2 June 2017 11: 07 New
      +7
      Quote: Alex66
      ... capitalism is not viable, does not come out of crises and wars ....

      Sheep need to be cut periodically. Crises are needed so that the dream of equality and equal opportunities, declared by Western ideologists, does not come true. The rich will never allow a mass appearance of their own kind, because the wealth of the individual is visible only against the background of the poor.
      1. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 12: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        The rich will never allow a mass appearance of their own kind, because the wealth of the individual is visible only against the background of the poor.

        That's right, the essence of becoming rich, super-rich is a way to stand out against the general background, even more - to become the chosen one, who has access to all the best, all the most expensive, essentially close to fascism - there are first-class people rich, super-rich - there are all the rest who for service and wealth growth 1 is needed.
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 2 June 2017 19: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: CorvusCoraks
          Quote: Boris55
          The rich will never allow a mass appearance of their own kind, because the wealth of the individual is visible only against the background of the poor.

          That's right, the essence of becoming rich, super-rich is a way to stand out against the general background, even more - to become the chosen one, who has access to all the best, all the most expensive, essentially close to fascism - there are first-class people rich, super-rich - there are all the rest who for service and wealth growth 1 is needed.

          Absolutely accurate statement. Today, the Red Project is being judged only because there are no people living at that time, which makes it possible to blame without objection. And it is necessary to judge for the coup in the 90s, long and comprehensively prepared by a certain stratum of society, it is necessary to judge for crimes against the state and the people-witnesses more than enough, millions of dead and injured. The show is organized to convince the correctness of today's realities. And they are such as you correctly noted: a demonstration of the superiority of a small layer over the whole of society is akin to fascism, and they are also divided into the elite and subhuman. But this elite is distinguished not by intelligence and talents, but by the contents of the intestines (lobsters and oysters are digested there, not potatoes with salted cucumbers), there may still be more silicone and more botex, but the rest is mutual responsibility, that is, corruption that allows you to stay in power, break the laws or develop new ones for the benefit of your loved ones in order to remain an elite.
          1. CorvusCoraks
            CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 22: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: olimpiada15
            But this elite is distinguished not by intelligence and talents, but by the contents of the intestines (lobsters and oysters are digested there, not potatoes with salted cucumbers), there may still be more silicone and more botex, but the rest is mutual responsibility, that is, corruption that allows you to stay in power, break the laws or develop new ones for the benefit of your loved ones in order to remain an elite.

            Namely, the worst that happened is a substitution of the concept of elitism, the elite are no longer people of outstanding talents, achievements, discoveries, actions, views, but those who have earned more or were born into a wealthy family and most of them honestly or by deceiving others, are corrupt, some even consider that it’s in the order of things and even right.
  8. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 2 June 2017 09: 05 New
    10
    I would like to return to the USSR, a world of happiness, tranquility, friendship, stability. Without hostility and the cult of money.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      2 June 2017 09: 55 New
      +4
      Return to the world of the late USSR, and if the time machine will bring in 30-e? In any case, this is impossible, in our century we will see more terrible dictatorships and tragedies, A.Zinoviev warned about this, but Stalin and Hitler will not be among them, they will come to their denial, this is an obvious move for any future dictator.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 2 June 2017 20: 40 New
        +7
        Like a joke: Kamenev praises Zinoviev. It makes laughing
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 2 June 2017 10: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: leonardo_1971
      I would like to return to the USSR, a world of happiness, tranquility, friendship, stability. Without hostility and the cult of money.

      Could you specify in which period of the USSR: Trotskyite-Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev-Brezhnev or Gorbachev-Yeltsin?
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 2 June 2017 20: 12 New
        +3
        I do not think that leonardo_1971 lived during the time of Lenin, he was born in the late Brezhnev period, but then there was what he called. People lived together. Many propaganda horror stories cause skepticism. I’ll say about the demonstrations, people willingly walked, believing that without a demonstration there is no holiday, and did not disperse for a long time. We usually returned from the demonstration along the banks of the river — there, every 100 m, we had picnics: the whole shore was dotted with groups of labor collectives. We lived a lot of fun. Emerging problems were resolved at the local level, nutrition problems were solved by the creation of subsidiary farms — each large enterprise had this. And safety was very calm: the neighbors knew each other, houses were built by the enterprise, where they worked. Children walked quietly, a stroller with a child could be left. Now it is impossible.
  9. CorvusCoraks
    CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 10: 56 New
    +2
    communism is democracy
    But what about the dictatorship of the party - the CPSU or the proletariat? I will know thanks that dictatorship = democracy ...
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 2 June 2017 11: 26 New
      +2
      I suspect that the CPSU was the state church of the Union and in this sense the USSR was the most natural theocracy. This is to say that the highest party hierarchs have been deceiving the people since the revolution itself, talking about the dictatorship of the proletariat. And it was precisely the dictatorship of the party.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 2 June 2017 12: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: CorvusCoraks
      But what about the dictatorship of the party - the CPSU or the proletariat? I will know thanks that dictatorship = democracy ...

      So the USSR did not grow up to democracy. Unfortunately. After the revolution, there was a dictatorship (what else could be) and a mobilization economy. All this, over time, was supposed to develop into a democracy and an economy with market mechanisms. Unfortunately, our elders from the Central Committee of the CPSU were not able to change anything. And Gorbachev, on this basis, deceived (deceived) people and derailed the country.
      There were many excesses, from which it was necessary to get rid, and not destroy the country. This is the Iron Curtain, egalitarianism, a one-party system ... Nowadays, the absence of chewing gum and jeans in the USSR, which do not have this hour, is absolutely worthless.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 2 June 2017 12: 47 New
        +3
        I think that the elders were not powerless to change anything. They just didn't want to. After all, dictatorship and a mobilization economy are the only things on which their power rested. However, as in the countries of Soviet influence. For example, Assad Sr.’s authority in the same way rested only on the state of emergency introduced decades ago.
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 2 June 2017 20: 51 New
          +1
          Stas157 was a democracy in the USSR. And active people came forward. Our young energetic director left to work in the ministry, leaving the new director also a young energetic. Youth was promoted and chosen. It ruined the general passivity: grumble and do nothing. Where there were active people, they nominated and elected those whom the team trusted. There is no democracy now. If sometimes popular people get on the lists, it’s only to select a mandate after the election and give it to someone for whom the people will not vote. As a result, mandates appear among the Ponomarevs and Maksakova and the like. Today's deputies are working and approving laws in favor of the interests of big business and those who want to do nothing, just get rich. When the scandal surrounding the majors from Lukoil breaks out, the main conclusion is that gas prices are too high in the country, the antimonopoly service and deputies are not working well: well, you don’t need to take so much money from the population that it would be enough to excuse for any crime of uncouth offspring.
          1. CorvusCoraks
            CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 22: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: olimpiada15
            among the Ponomarevs and Maksakova and the like

            Yeah, and Voronenkov, do not forget about them.
    3. avt
      avt 2 June 2017 21: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: CorvusCoraks
      communism is democracy

      wassat What the hell, Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country. " bully
      Quote: CorvusCoraks
      But what about the dictatorship of the party — the CPSU or the proletariat?

      P, aleta.iata my friend. bully
      Quote: Basarev
      I suspect that the CPSU was the state church of the Union and in this sense the USSR was the most natural theocracy.

      laughing Learn materiel and you will be happy! Beginning with the “Red Weeping Wall”, the bookmarks of which to this day in Moscow remained from Lenin, ending with the genius of the Seminarist - the Friend of all athletes, who used to say that the party should be structured as the Order of the Sword Bearers. Naturally, when fighting with religion in general, they’re the one Atheism was elevated to the rank of religion and successfully used all the tactical and, I’m not afraid to say, strategic achievements of centuries-old religion, Christianity and Judaism in particular, as the most known to them from birth. Islam was not taken into account, since in fact it is moonlight. earlier monotheistic cults. If you like - the light version. A simplified, radical version of which was launched by shaved in the form of Wahhabism, as a new ideology for the current "Shock of the Universe".
  10. then
    then 2 June 2017 11: 15 New
    +5
    In the article "Horses, people mingled in a heap ... and in a white crown of roses, Jesus Christ is ahead."
    The most consistent Marxist was V.I. Lenin. The "sequence" of all other Marxists was only in the plane of the fire of the world revolution. Just the introduction of the NEP, Lenin set the stage for the implementation of the ideas of Marx and Engels on public ownership of the means of production. The beginnings of which he saw in the organization of artels, where each worker was automatically a "shareholder" and had the right to a share of the profits of the enterprise. These rights needed to be fixed at the legislative level of the state. But the leadership of the revolution took a lot of effort and there was no time for theoretical development of the theory. Therefore, the latest decisions were increasingly based on Lenin’s authority on the principle of “Let's get involved in a fight, but we'll see” and there wasn’t any of the closest associates who shared his theoretical views. With the death of Lenin, the "elephant" also died, only the "blind sages" remained.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 2 June 2017 20: 49 New
      +8
      I bow to the genius of Lenin. No one has ever "thrown" the Rockefellers (or whoever wanted the collapse of RI there) for their own money!
      And the genius of Stalin - that he kept and developed this brainchild. It is a pity that then there were none.
      1. CorvusCoraks
        CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 22: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Doliva63
        I bow to the genius of Lenin. No one has ever "thrown" the Rockefellers (or whoever wanted the collapse of RI there) for their own money!

        But he did not throw it. After 2 revolutions, did RI essentially leave the war? dropped out.
        RI in the former borders did not remain? not left.
        Power in RI changed? changed yet and changed the system.
        For every penny (shekel / stamp / dollar) of the comrade’s shops, Lenin reported, not one withheld, everything was put into action.
  11. kig
    kig 2 June 2017 11: 15 New
    +1
    Well, again about the story ... Yes, there is no common history! Each of us has his own story, and judges it on the basis of what he himself was a witness. And history books are written by winners. When others come to replace them, they will write their textbooks. Then seekers of the “historical truth” appear and try to convince everyone that everything that was once written is wrong. And rightly so, as they see it. All bullshit and talking room. Well, television, of course.
  12. Altona
    Altona 2 June 2017 11: 22 New
    14
    Shabbat and the Armenian show with kosher makers, or rather Kremlin propagandists, are already tired of watching. The Kremlin’s attempts are already visible to blame internal problems in Ukraine (and look at them), in Syria (and in Syria we are great, our soldiers). Otherwise, we have already gone through the failures that the propagandos are trying to draw out with such shows. Now they already have Stalin not a winner. He won not so plaque fly. They would try to defeat the panic of retreat, defeat the marauders in the rear, defeat the disbelief of the soldiers, defeat Churchill diplomatically, defeat the evacuation of people and industry, defeat the production of aircraft, guns and tanks. And then to win in Berlin. And before that, to defeat illiteracy, to defeat the economic and industrial archaic. My grandfather never recalled that he had "dispossessed" of the house, then they opened an elementary school there. Grandfather was proud that almost all his children and grandchildren received higher and secondary education, that after being wounded, he was assigned to the "officer" (officer) position of the quartermaster, with three education classes (!!!!), and he managed. What then was a deputy district council. And you say, king and king. Would it be with the king? Silver St. George's krestyulka and nickel on vodka, that’s all the royal mercy. And then they started, "the tear of a child," "the staple gepgessii by preparing creative intelligence." Yes, they would go. They have the same substance in their heads and in the rectum.
    1. CorvusCoraks
      CorvusCoraks 2 June 2017 22: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Now they already have Stalin not a winner. He won not so plaque fly. They would try to defeat the panic of retreat, defeat the marauders in the rear, defeat the disbelief of the soldiers, defeat Churchill diplomatically, defeat the evacuation of people and industry, defeat the production of aircraft, guns and tanks. And then to win in Berlin. And before that, to defeat illiteracy, to defeat the economic and industrial archaic. My grandfather never recalled that he had "dispossessed" of the house, then they opened an elementary school there. Grandfather was proud that almost all his children and grandchildren received higher and secondary education, that after being wounded, he was assigned to the "officer" (officer) position of the quartermaster, with three education classes (!!!!), and he managed. What then was a deputy district council. And you say, king and king. Would it be with the king? Silver St. George's krestyulka and nickel for vodka, that’s all the royal mercy. And then they started, "the tear of a child," "the staple gepgessii by preparing creative intelligence." Yes, they would go. They have the same substance in their heads and in the rectum.

      And what is he doing it all himself, with his own hands? the poor little one didn’t sleep, was it malnourished?
      Under the tsar, it was different, look in the comments for examples of people who rose from the peasants, but not often, but not for anyone.
  13. LCA
    LCA 2 June 2017 21: 23 New
    0
    “Unfortunately, we do not have today philosopher historians of the scale of Karamzin, Klyuchevsky, Gumilyov, A. Zinoviev, who could historically and authoritatively comprehend the twentieth century of Russia,” writes Viktor Kamenev.

    I allow myself to disagree with Viktor Kamenev. On the website www.vodaspb.ru dated April 14, 2017

    The book "Depressurization" (The basic concept of History in the understanding of the Internal Predictor of the USSR).
    Posted by: VP USSR
    The very first working papers of 1987-1990, from which the book Dead Water was expanded, and then the entire Concept of Public Safety.

    foreword
    About the reasons for writing this work
    CHAPTER 1. How the proletarian revolution triumphed in Russia - a peasant country.
    1. The silence zone of Russian history.
    2. "The subjunctive mood" - the policy of Alexander III.
    3. The erosion of the autocracy of Russia from within.
    4. The Jewish war against Russia and Japan.
    5. January 9: Haponism or Ruthenberg?
    6. Dual power before the war.
    7. The path to the Purim (February 1917) revolution.
    CHAPTER 2. Ancient Egyptian roots of world disasters.
    1. The view of the Gentile on the baptists of Russia.

    Digression from topic No. 1 (2007): on the philosophy and methodology of cognition.
    1. The role of philosophy in culture - metaphorically
    2. The problems of philosophy today
    3. Cognition processes and error-free algorithm
    Conclusion
    Deviation from topic No. 2 (2007): on atheism and enslavement of society
    2. About some features of statehood of Ancient Egypt.
    3. Commentary on the "Gabrieliade" by A. S. Pushkin.
    APPENDIX 2007
    CHAPTER 3. Judaism, Christianity, Islam: The History of Mutual Struggle or the “Serpent Gorynych on Three Heads”?
    1. The soul of man and the spirituality of mankind.
    2. "Picnic on the sidelines" of caravan routes in Palestine.
    3. The man in the grinder of Judaism.
    SENTENCE TO JUDAISM.
    4. The Good Evil of Christianity.
    5. What the Prophet commanded, and what the Muslims forgot.
    6. Freemasonry is a spiritual plague.
    7. The global historical process.
    CHAPTER 4. Lessons of Marxism-Leninism.
    1. The main (?) Question of philosophy.
    2. Attitude to the methodology.
    3. Awareness of the methodology.
    4. Understanding the methodology.
    5. Awareness of the Russian-speaking canonical ideology of "Marxism-Leninism."
    6. Ignorance of the drawbar: where I turned, it turned out there. (The smashing arrows of unconsciousness).
    7. Pillar road patterns in the forest of accidents. (On the role of personality in history).
    CHAPTER 5. The Russian STATE and the REVOLUTION (1917 and the Civil War) are also “Russian”.
    1. From pluralism of opinions about the “greatest event of the XNUMXth century”.
    2. A look at the revolution in Russia from the perspective of a global predictor.
    3. Our understanding of a number of basic principles of socialism and communism.
    4. Marxism and the pseudo-national issue.
    5. The test for fluid absorption.
    6. Pluralism of opinions in politics is anarchy: a variant of 1917
    7. The spiral of history; where the "roads to Moscow" lead.
    8. Trotskyism- "Leninism" takes power.
    1. How the Purim coup looked from abroad.
    2. RSDLP after the Purim coup.
    3. How did the interweaving of Leninism and Trotskyism happen?
    4. Personal relations of the “leaders” and the development potential that they have not mastered.
    5. The forced course of the RSDLP (b) on the socialist revolution.
    6. Third Congress of the RSDLP - lessons for the future.
    Purim of 1917 in Helsinki.
    7. Who and how closed the alternative to Trotskyist-Leninist October.
    8. Post-revolutionary disasters as a result of the mistakes of the domestic intelligentsia and the Bolshevik party.
    List of related literature
  14. Altona
    Altona 4 June 2017 00: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: CorvusCoraks
    And what is he doing it all himself, with his own hands? the poor little one didn’t sleep, was it malnourished?
    Under the tsar, it was different, look in the comments for examples of people who rose from the peasants, but not often, but not for anyone.

    ---------------------------------------
    And I didn’t sleep, I won’t say about the malnourished, I don’t know. But even as the tsar did not run away to the royal village, he did not leave for Kuibyshev. Under the tsar, it was different, but the total mass was shitty, albeit with examples of uplifted people. The system was shitty, honed to the elite as it is now. You are the achievements of the Soviet regime, so far taken for granted, free education, pediatric pediatrics, disease prevention, universal employment. But under the tsar this was not all, people suffered from trachoma, tuberculosis and typhoid, illiteracy was. You probably didn’t know, I sympathize. Representation of the people was not in power. Well, you really like the king, then God is with you. Epaulettes, galloons, maids of honor and balls with French rolls. You are sitting here on a site and you cannot decide a simple paradigm: why did the October Revolution happen? Why did the February revolution happen? Why did the tsar suddenly become objectionable and neither the Cossacks nor the black hundred helped him. Neither the church, nor the guards, nor the nobility are brilliant. Here nifiga did not help. Because Russian capitalism was a derivative of international capitalism as it is now. And the autocracy didn’t need him, as now Putin’s presidency. Understand that you are the truth of this simple at least feel in your gut without logic. That the national character of power with the capitalist system of economy will always come into conflict, that then, now. How many sovereign banners you don’t wave and “God save the king” do not sing. This will be a contradiction, because either autocratic feeding through the security forces as it is now, or the development of bourgeois institutions and integration into supranational structures such as the EU. At least look at Ukraine as a good example. Oh well, to whom I explain all this, we have a scientific approach in the pen for a long time.
  15. Graz
    Graz 4 June 2017 07: 07 New
    0
    I looked like one transmission, nothing is so interesting. informative. different opinions
  16. Dashout
    Dashout 4 June 2017 09: 25 New
    +5
    Why broadcast (even with pleasure) such traitors as Nikolai Zlobin. He went to America. He took an oath (took the oath). Here is an excerpt from the oath - an indispensable element of accepting US citizenship: The oath following the clerk of the court repeats the text of the oath: "I hereby pledge that I absolutely and completely renounce loyalty and devotion to any foreign monarch, ruler, state or sovereign authority whose subject or citizen I was until this day[i] [/ i] ...
    Everything, for me, any Russian person with a US passport is a traitor. Well, how else?
    He officially renounced his homeland, his country ... so he betrayed ...
    And why show these types on TV (even if these are Soloviev’s friends).
    The idea is instilled that betraying is not so bad ... you can always find excuses ..
  17. sgapich
    sgapich 4 June 2017 14: 16 New
    +2
    It’s personally interesting for me whether the author of the article read Lenin, Stalin (Dzhugashvili), Karl Marx, Kerensky, and at least Prince Kropotkin. I'm not talking about Mao. In communism, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong.

    If my memory serves me, then in the notorious Art. 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (1926) was 14 articles (Some with subparagraphs. A total of 18 points in the RSFSR. In other republics, it was possible differently).

    Many of the parts of this article are still used in many states (though already under a different numbering)
  18. kalibr
    kalibr 4 June 2017 21: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Basarev
    And it was precisely the dictatorship of the party.

    Covering up with a beautiful "left phrase" designed for yesterday's natives of the village who grew up in the traditions of paternalism.
  19. AVN
    AVN 4 November 2017 14: 38 New
    0
    The most unsuccessful, in my opinion, was the program of November 3, dedicated to the cultural revolution. This was especially evident in the lack of intelligence and lack of education of the film director of the communist Bortko, who announced the first decree of the Soviet government as a decree on culture, although everyone in the school curriculum knew the first was the peace decree and the second land decree! They didn’t think about culture in 1917! As such, there was no discussion, there were loud monologues of Emanuel and Bortko, shouting of Shakhnazarov and others. The presenters did not refute the apparent lie of the speakers, either showing their incompetence in the topic or the indecision of editors checking controversial places on-line.