If Russia loses Venezuela ...

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The sting of world democracy is aimed at a new sacrifice. President of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro was elected as this victim. For months now, many thousands of protest rallies are taking place on the streets of Caracas and other major Venezuelan cities, at which people come out not only of their own free will, but also at the call of the Venezuelan irreconcilable opposition, the leader of which declared himself Enrique Capriles Radonsky - the former governor of the state of Miranda and the ex presidential candidate who conceded Maduro with a slight lag (scored 49% of votes).

This result reveals one of, as they say, the underlying causes of the Venezuelan protest. To concede only a couple of percent, taking into account the possible error in the manual calculations - no one likes. And Capriles, too. 45-year-old Enrique, having twice lost the election - first Chavez, then Maduro - held a dislike for the current government in the soul, and decided, having received approval from there, to arrange a Venezuelan version of Maidan. Moreover, about a month ago, the Supreme Court of Venezuela deprived Capriles Radonsky of the right to hold public office for a term of 15 years. “Resentment” intensified, and Capriles (his maternal grandfather was born in Russia, and then moved to Poland) openly began to urge Venezuelans not only to take to the streets and express their protest, but also to “throw off” from the presidential chair Nicolas Maduro.



At the same time, Capriles felt that the moment for his revenge was the most appropriate. The fact is that Venezuela is actually split into two irreconcilable camps. Moreover, Maduro's opponents in the country are becoming more and more, due to the severe economic crisis facing the country and the people. The crisis affected the citizens in a way that probably did not affect any other country in the Latin American region. The main reason is that the Venezuelan economy is tied to the export of energy resources, the prices of which continue to remain at the level that is clearly not enough to replenish the budget to the necessary volumes.

Venezuela's public debt has exceeded billion dollars for 67. The financial performance of exports is such that 90% of export earnings go to the treasury from the sale of oil. Maduro, realizing the need for economic reforms in his own way, decided to limit the population’s access to foreign currency. This led to the collapse of the national currency (Bolivar). Moreover, the official rate differs from the rate on the black market by more than a third. Government financial authorities have virtually ceased to attract currency flows from the business, the level of investment has collapsed to the level of the middle of the 90-s, and oil is no longer salvaged.

At the same time, the opposition states that both Chavez and Maduro in the years when oil was trading at high levels could not do anything to reduce the country's economy’s dependence on hydrocarbon exports. With this you can not argue. That would just do something Capriles, having received power - a big question that remains unanswered.

The Economist magazine writes that the government also decided to turn on the printing press, hoping to solve problems the way it used to be done in the United States. But what is allowed to Jupiter ... The printing press of Venezuela led to hyperinflation. Manufacturers began to lose interest in creating products, including food. This led to a total shortage of goods, even in major cities of the country. And all these actions allegedly increase among the Venezuelans the authority of the opposition, which, without disdaining to rush into populism, promises that Capriles will definitely bring the country out of the impasse, and the country will heal and step into a bright Venezuelan future.

And here it should be noted that the "friends of Venezuela" tried to do everything so that Maduro began to make one economic mistake after another. First of all, we are talking about the so-called sectoral sanctions imposed on the United States against Venezuela. In general, exactly what the United States tried and continues to do with Russia is to strike at strategically important sectors of the economy, cut off opportunities for external lending, create a protest movement. And with Russia, the United States has much more problems in this regard than with Venezuela ...

The problem for Venezuela is precisely that without the support of the United States, this Capriles, as they say, no one can call him. Therefore, in his speeches one can constantly hear the thesis about the need to "restore confidence between Caracas and Washington." And the fact that the "friendship" of the United States has a strictly defined interest, to say - too much. Already, Venezuela has been flooded with all sorts of public "human rights" organizations, for which the economic problems of Venezuela and ordinary Venezuelans are just what they are willing to consider from the point of view of US interests. Now Venezuelans are interesting to Washington only because with their help it is possible to change the power in the oil-bearing country for the one that will be pulled into a string only with one mention of the United States of America and their “great friendship”.
Western media actively publish materials about the Venezuelan "onizhedetyah", which "oppose the repressive machine Maduro." The fact that Maduro agreed to go on certain concessions to the opposition and convene a Constituent Assembly, which will consider the possibility of political transformation in the country, doesn’t care about Western propagandists.

Despite the fact that last Friday Maduro ordered to cool down the heat of the protesters with water cannons, the situation is unlikely to calm down in the near future. The US Congress has already passed a bill on the provision of "humanitarian aid" to Venezuela. As stated in the explanatory note to the bill, the United States allocates 20 million dollars to "support democracy" in this country. In other words, the Venezuelan opposition is throwing up some money so that it can support the protest in the near future and, if possible, with small means, dismiss Maduro, who is not distinguished by fraternal love towards the States. In general, "onizhedetyam" to disperse from the streets to continue to learn and work, just will not give. Local radicals are also catching up to them, who for American money are capable of anything.

If Russia loses Venezuela ...



The army and the police are on the side of the current president. And here, perhaps, it is worth considering the question of which place the situation could turn towards Russia if another “democratic peremoga” happens - now in Venezuela - against the background of a hypothetical possibility of the transfer of security forces to the side of the protesters to American funds.

Immediately it should be said that one cannot count on the loyalty of a possible new leadership to Russia. Moreover, Kapriles, even if he has a desire not to break contacts with the Russian Federation, simply will not allow such a desire to be realized. For the carrot in the form of the lifting of sanctions against Venezuela and the Capriles presidential chair, they will simply be forced to idolize the United States, which they are already training in themselves. But Venezuela has a truly impressive fleet of Russian-made military equipment acquired in recent years. Moreover, Venezuela is a stable customer of new Russian weapons, replenishing the budget of Russian industrial enterprises with billions of dollars. To lose such a large customer of armaments and military equipment is to cede the traditional market to American "partners."

By the way, what of the Russian / modernized Soviet technology is available in the Venezuelan arsenal?



These are the Msta-S self-propelled howitzers delivered to Caracas, the Pechora-2М anti-aircraft missile systems (C-125-2М), C-300ВМ (Antey-2500), Buk-2МE, automated machine-based fire control systems M ”, Su-30МКВ fighters, Il-76МД-90 military transporters, Il-78МК tanker, various Russian helicopters (Mi-17В5, Mi-26Т2, multipurpose Mi-35М). Negotiations are underway to supply Venezuela with the latest Russian fighter Su-35, patrol boats.



The loss of Venezuela by Russia does not just discard our country from this impressive market and makes it impossible to make money on maintenance of the equipment supplied, but also deprives the presence of an important partner not only in the military-industrial sphere, but also in the sphere of regulating the hydrocarbon market. Lined up over the years, the risks run off. At the same time for Venezuela itself there are significant risks to plunge into the mouth of the civil war. Chaos ideologists have enough.

From the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Venezuela:
We will not allow chaos in Venezuela and preserve the constitutional order.


Hopefully, this is true. I would like to hope that today, both in Moscow and in Caracas, they understand the price of defeat from those forces for whom the real interests of the citizens of Venezuela are only a shell for translating the country into the manual control of Washington. It is also necessary to understand that the problem cannot be solved only with a “stick”, and therefore Venezuela as a unified state with enormous potentials cannot simply withstand economic reforms - political hyenas will wait in the wings and drag them to pieces.
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  1. +6
    29 May 2017 07: 27
    Russia can not retreat. If the United States takes Venezuela, someone else will be next. And Russia is already almost without allies.
    1. +4
      29 May 2017 07: 49
      Msta-S self-propelled howitzers, Pechora-2M anti-aircraft missile systems (S-125-2M), S-300VM (Antey-2500 "), Buk-2ME," Machine-M "automated fire control systems, Su-30MKV fighters, Il-76MD-90 military transporters, Il-78MK tanker, various Russian helicopters (Mi-17V5, Mi-26T2, multi-purpose Mi-35M). Negotiations are underway on the supply of Venezuela the latest Russian Su-35 fighters
      mmmdaaa ... again, as after the collapse of the Warsaw block, everything will go to the enemy, no doubt the Americans will immediately take out everything that interests them ...
      1. +2
        29 May 2017 12: 26
        this is of little interest to Americans
      2. 0
        29 May 2017 23: 22
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        mmdaaa ...

        Why are you posting your message here? How is your message related to the text avia12005?
        This is a flood or the pursuit of pluses.

        How not ashamed?
    2. +22
      29 May 2017 08: 16
      The people of Venezuela will certainly throw off the incompetent mediocrity of Maduro, otherwise chaos and slaughter will occur. And stop writing articles with formulations of the Cold War era. Instead of calling to work with potential future leaders of Venezuela, stamping out accusations such as "harbored hostility towards the current government, and decided, having received approval" from there ", to arrange a Venezuelan version of the Maidan." Is not a sign of great intelligence.
      1. +27
        29 May 2017 08: 28
        it is not a sign of a great mind.

        Perhaps it’s enough to constantly write frankly malicious comments towards Russia? Who are you calling for a normal relationship with? With the opposition that America supports and finances? Maybe it’s time to finish giving Azerbaijani advice to Russians about how to live, who to support and what to do next. Maybe at least once advise your fellow countrymen something a person with a "big mind"? Honestly, I got it already.
        1. +16
          29 May 2017 10: 27
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Perhaps it’s enough to constantly write frankly malicious comments towards Russia? Who are you calling for a normal relationship with? With the opposition that America supports and finances?

          This is the future power in Venezuela, of course you can cling to Maduro - but it is useless
          Of course, it’s even more productive to pour a bucket of dirt on the opposition, and when it comes to power, wonder why once again you need to forgive debts.
          1. +4
            30 May 2017 03: 16
            Quote: karish
            Quote: rotmistr60
            Perhaps it’s enough to constantly write frankly malicious comments towards Russia? Who are you calling for a normal relationship with? With the opposition that America supports and finances?

            This is the future power in Venezuela, of course you can cling to Maduro - but it is useless
            Of course, it’s even more productive to pour a bucket of dirt on the opposition, and when it comes to power, wonder why once again you need to forgive debts.

            It is proposed to stop talking with the current president of Venezuela and to support the opposition, which when it comes to power will pour mud on us, but we will still be forced to forgive debts, and in addition, we will lose the face of a country that is abandoning its ally because of supposedly profitable economic and political perspectives?
            Only "good" Israeli Jews can advise this, for which they all are "loved" ...
            1. +3
              30 May 2017 04: 03
              That "" good Israeli Jews "", that the representative of Azerbaijan ---- really need their advice in Ukraine !!!!! Let them advise the pig !!!!! There they will immediately listen. It's FUNNY to watch how so different people care about the Russian Federation because of the cordon. In their countries, they only listen to their advice. Ha-ha-ha !!!!!!
        2. +1
          29 May 2017 12: 37
          Who are you calling for a normal relationship with? With the opposition that America supports and finances?

          Let us nevertheless separate the United States from its organizations. What is happening in Venezuela is needed first of all by Wall Street and the corporations associated with this place, and in the USA, not everyone is flaming with adoration for these people and what they do. Most recently, an occupation of Wall Street was held, did not forget? Do not forget how toughly dispersed the participants?
          1. 0
            29 May 2017 13: 18
            I will say even more - Trump himself and his team are also to some extent in opposition to Wall Street, because lobbying the state order for the defense industry and other manufacturers and the interests of financiers come into conflict with this.
            1. 0
              30 May 2017 09: 23
              You did not confuse the meaning of the word ????? Lobbying - it supports and promotes !!!!!!!)))))))))))))))))))))))
            2. 0
              30 May 2017 09: 28
              This is a fucking lobby!)))))))))))))) I)))))))) It's just fun!)))))))) For the opposition to Wall Street !!!!))))) )))
          2. 0
            29 May 2017 23: 32
            Quote: yehat
            Let us nevertheless separate the United States from its organizations.

            That is, no one will answer for the crimes of the American army?
            1. 0
              30 May 2017 09: 08
              why such a conclusion?
              1. 0
                30 May 2017 15: 01
                Quote: yehat
                why such a conclusion?

                From this
                Quote: yehat
                Let us nevertheless separate the United States from its organizations.
                1. 0
                  30 May 2017 18: 00
                  I do not see any connection
                  1. 0
                    30 May 2017 18: 16
                    Quote: yehat
                    I do not see any connection

                    do not mind it
          3. +1
            31 May 2017 15: 51
            Quote: yehat
            Let's separate the United States from its organizations.

            Of course, let’s separate it, but I wouldn’t yet separate the interests of the United States and the interests of Wall Street, as long as it’s all the same. And by helping the opposition, we are helping Wall Street. At the moment, this is somehow true.
      2. +9
        29 May 2017 08: 39
        This is how it will look. We cynically “throw” our ally, and begin to work “with potential future Venezuelan leaders” as a US creature. We will be very X *** about looking without any benefit.
        1. +18
          29 May 2017 10: 29
          Quote: Astarte
          We will be very X *** about looking without any benefit.

          And until today, was she?
          In general, the Russian authorities need to learn not only how to maintain frank losers, but also how to manage to spoil relations with those who come to replace them.
          1. +8
            29 May 2017 10: 36
            Russia needs to learn not only how to support frank losers

            Of course, it is easier, following the example of Israel, to strike at those who fight terrorists. You yourself would have better thought who would come to replace you with Hesbola tomorrow, rather than racking their brains on how to act in Russia.
            1. +4
              30 May 2017 09: 31
              Hezbollah - not terrorists! Remember this! They have in the charter - not any seizures of other people's rhetoric! Only liberation from the invaders! And, here, "Israel" is a terrorist group!
              1. 0
                30 May 2017 16: 11
                Alas, the Arab countries: Egypt, Jordan, the Gulf countries, Israel, the USA, Canada, the EU .... recognized Hisbollah as a terrorist organization ...
                1. +2
                  30 May 2017 18: 23
                  Quote: alta
                  recognized Hezbollah as a terrorist organization

                  Yes, do not care what others think. In Syria and Lebanon, Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization. Israel can not judge because he is head over heels in crimes.
                  The three most aggressive terrorist organizations in the world:
                  USA
                  United Kingdom
                  France...
                2. 0
                  31 May 2017 15: 53
                  Quote: alta
                  Alas, the Arab countries: Egypt, Jordan, the Gulf countries, Israel, the USA, Canada, the EU ....

                  All the "best friends" of Russia wink
          2. +5
            29 May 2017 10: 43
            We do not know how, like the Anglo-Saxons, to bring scum to power, and to extradite countries. But we do not abandon Ours, even if they are not the best rulers. This is our style, and I am sure it will justify itself.
            1. +10
              29 May 2017 12: 14
              Quote: Astarte
              We do not know how, like the Anglo-Saxons, to bring scum to power, and to extradite countries

              You bring to power clear boys who milk you laughing

              Quote: Astarte
              But we do not abandon Ours, even if they are not the best rulers

              We must be able to choose those for ourselves - which for some reason are not needed by our

              Quote: Astarte
              This is our style, and I am sure it will justify itself.

              No doubt . already justified more than once
              1. Cuba - $ 31,7 billion

              According to experts, we would never have received this debt back anyway. And so they threw the "carrot" and strengthened their positions near the United States.

              2. Iraq - $ 21,5 billion

              The debt was written off twice - $ 9,5 billion (from $ 10,5) in 2004 and $ 12 billion (from $ 12,9) in 2008. The second time it was a new debt, on loans received after the forgiveness of the previous debt in 2004.

              3. African countries - more than $ 20 billion

              Decommissioned “in bulk” in the period after the 2008 year in the manner of “fraternal assistance”.

              4. Mongolia - $ 11,1 billion

              Decommissioned in 2003 year. Mongolia, however, immediately returned the remaining $ 300 million of debt.

              5. Afghanistan - $ 11 billion

              Debts for the supply of Soviet military equipment, written off after 2006 year.

              6. North Korea - $ 10 billion

              One of the latest "gifts", after 2012 year. Not all were written off, $ 1 billion of debt for the DPRK still remained.

              7. Syria - $ 9,8 billion

              Written off in 2005 year (of $ 13,4 billion of debt). In exchange, a number of agreements were signed in the field of construction, oil and gas.

              8. Vietnam - $ 9,53 billion

              The first of the debts “forgiven” to foreign countries already in “Putin's” time was in 2000. In total, Vietnamese debt at that time amounted to $ 11,03 billion, the balance should be paid by 2022. True, not directly, but through investments in joint projects with Russia in Vietnam.

              9. Ethiopia - about $ 6 billion

              In 2001, $ 4,8 billion of $ 6 billion of debt was written off, four years later - another $ 1,1 billion, that is, almost everything.

              10. Algeria - $ 4,7 billion

              The write-off occurred in 2006-2007. In exchange, the country undertook to purchase from us industrial products for this or a larger amount.

              In recent years - in 2012-2014 - in addition to North Korea and Cuba, Kyrgyzstan’s debt of $ 599 million has been written off (after which the country was about to join the Customs Union) and now $ 865 million to Uzbekistan.

              In total, since 2000, Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.etc.
              1. +2
                29 May 2017 12: 30
                On the first points, you are absolutely right, but we will not change anything
                On the last point, it's just numbers and cut paper, the main word is forgiven
                1. +6
                  29 May 2017 17: 25
                  Quote: Astarte
                  On the first points, you are absolutely right, but we will not change anything

                  Stubbornness is the first sign of dullness.
                  Quote: Astarte
                  about the last point- It's just numbers and cut paper, The main word is Forgiven

                  Cut paper and numbers belay
                  1. 0
                    29 May 2017 17: 34
                    Quote: karish
                    Stubbornness is the first sign of dullness.

                    No, the first is different, only I won’t tell you, But the surprised face is just yours
              2. +1
                29 May 2017 13: 06
                most non-payment of these debts is formed by US intervention, often armed. This is the US economic war, and not the "inability" to choose partners.
                1. +6
                  29 May 2017 17: 26
                  Quote: yehat
                  most non-payment of these debts is formed by US intervention, often armed. This is the US economic war, and not the "inability" to choose partners.

                  it's funny.
                  1. 0
                    30 May 2017 09: 34
                    Economist! Do not make me laugh! Take your debts, better, from these countries! First of all, from the USA!))))))))))))))))))))))))))
              3. 0
                29 May 2017 15: 34
                Quote: karish
                In total, since the 2000 of the year Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.

                Do you care, Israeli citizen?
                You consider your pennies, not ours.
                We manage without you and I hope that we will do without you in the future, but whether you can do without Russia is a very big question.
                1. +7
                  29 May 2017 17: 27
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  Do you care, Israeli citizen?
                  You consider your pennies, not ours.

                  Mine, I'm a citizen of Russia - where are my grandmothers?
                  No one asked me, forgiving 140 billion.
                  You may have sinned - I'm definitely not.
                  1. +1
                    29 May 2017 17: 31
                    Quote: karish
                    Mine, I'm a citizen of Russia - where are my grandmothers?

                    You are a “citizen” of the wrong Russia, and therefore, nothing has been laid for you personally.
                    Quote: karish
                    No one asked me, forgiving 140 billion.

                    There is great sadness. No one intends to ask about this, it’s not your mind’s business.
                    Quote: karish
                    You may have sinned - I'm definitely not.

                    Unlike you, I understand perfectly well where this asset went to, and you. You continue to virtually count pennies that you will never see.
                  2. +1
                    29 May 2017 17: 50
                    where did you get the idea that your money was there?
                    the constitution, in which it was written that everything belongs to the people, has long been amended. You have the right to pay taxes and penalties freely. No more rights.
              4. +1
                29 May 2017 20: 43
                Russia, a generous soul
                1. 0
                  29 May 2017 23: 39
                  Quote: Ararat
                  Russia, a generous soul

                  A simple statement of fact.
              5. 0
                31 May 2017 15: 56
                Quote: karish
                In total, since the 2000 of the year Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.
                And how many forgiven Israel do not tell me? Did he forgive even a dollar to anyone? And what is the use of this forgiveness for Israel itself (if any)?
          3. +3
            29 May 2017 12: 48
            She was

            Venezuelan barter imports to Russia grew 10 times, mainly fruits.
            Any increase in a friendly economy, lossless trade is a plus.
            the volume of military supplies to Venezuela exceeded $ 11 billion

            Venezuela is now paying external debts at a rate of 2.5 billion a year.
            Russian investments can pay off if cooperation lasts at least 10-15 years.
            True, I don’t understand another thing — is it really within us such a complete economy with economy, if even such problematic external investments are preferred?
            Where are these super-efficient managers with billions of annual salaries for which the USSR was destroyed?
            1. +9
              29 May 2017 13: 10
              Quote: yehat
              The import from Venezuela of barter to Russia has grown 10 times, mainly fruit.

              Give me the numbers, 10 times - in relation to what? to 5 apples? or to 10 million tons --- different indicators
              Quote: yehat
              Any increase in a friendly economy, lossless trade is a plus.

              What does it mean - lossless trading?
              Quote: yehat
              the volume of military supplies to Venezuela exceeded $ 11 billion
              Venezuela is now paying external debts at a rate of 2.5 billion a year.

              Do not hang out numbers.
              Venezuela owes everything to its ears and especially China.
              The amount of loans granted to China by a South American country amounted to about 60 billion dollars. Since 2010, Chinese companies have invested 2,5 billion dollars in the Venezuelan economy.

              Venezuela, according to experts,e paid China about 20 billion dollars, and there are no signals that the money will be returned at the height of the crisis.

              Venezuela is now not in a position to pay debts, and therefore asked for deferred payments for 2 years.
              Quote: yehat
              Russian investments can pay off if cooperation lasts at least 10-15 years.

              laughing
              After 15 years, there will be no Maduro - this time.
              And Russia will write off Venezuelan debts - these are two
              Quote: yehat
              True, I don’t understand another thing — is it really within us such a complete economy with economy, if even such problematic external investments are preferred?

              And who said that they are engaged in the economy in Russia?
              Foreign policy is everything. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Lavrov are geniuses, and around there are only d ...-- as he noticed.
              Quote: yehat
              Where are these super-efficient managers with billions of annual salaries for which the USSR was destroyed?

              And were they?
              Oranges do not grow on aspen.
              Although there is already a new generation of effective managers - children of effective managers --- whether there will be more.
              1. +2
                29 May 2017 13: 23
                Venezuela owes everything to its ears and especially China

                a mistake. The main debts are to investors from New York, you can add to them a bit from London, about 20+ billion and their aggressive position is the main problem of Maduro. Again, I will refer to Argentina, what big problems this can create.
                China is second on the list. RF is the third.
                China also does not take a soft position in its debt, however, not as tough as the arrogant Saxons.
              2. 0
                30 May 2017 09: 12

                there is a new generation of effective managers - children of effective managers
                it's only the beginning

                already there, already ... Yes
              3. +1
                30 May 2017 09: 37
                Is it like Nemtsov and Gaidar?
      3. +5
        29 May 2017 09: 25
        you are funny. Well, the "people of Venezuela" will throw it off - although I doubt that it’s the people, look at the photo carefully, it’s not very poor people there.
        So, what is next? The economy will not change; the country is still tied to hydrocarbons. If the Americans give some kind of relief, then for sure the privatization of part of the economy to “investors”, which will make the country's situation even worse.
        Maduro, unfortunately, is not very good, but he is not allowed to do at least what he can.
        1. +9
          29 May 2017 10: 30
          Quote: yehat
          So, what is next? The economy will not change

          Well, if nothing changes - why change Maduro?
          Do you want to say that?
          Quote: yehat
          Maduro unfortunately yes, not very good, but he is not allowed to do at least what he can

          Du Chavez and the companies showed themselves in all their glory.
          1. +3
            29 May 2017 11: 21
            Well, if nothing changes - why change Maduro?
            Do you want to say that?

            A change of Maduro is inevitable. But we need at least some sane alternative, and not what is happening. Is it really not clear from the example of Ukraine that they will come, with whom Maduro will appear as an angel.

            Chavez and companies showed themselves in all their glory

            What do you know about what Chavez did?
            where did you get that you can somehow judge in this matter?
            your conceit just rolls over, especially since you feel a banal repetition in the style of a parrot of stuffing media.
            1. +7
              29 May 2017 11: 42
              Quote: yehat
              A change of Maduro is inevitable. But we need at least some sane alternative, and not what is happening. Is it really not clear from the example of Ukraine that they will come, with whom Maduro will appear as an angel.

              Ukraine is not an example.
              In Venezuela, life is an order of magnitude worse than in Ukraine.
              Quote: yehat
              What do you know about what Chavez did?

              Face results
              Quote: yehat
              where did you get that you can somehow judge in this matter?

              And why did you decide that you can judge?
              Quote: yehat
              your self-conceit just rolls over, especially since you feel a banal repetition in the style of a parrot of stuffing media

              Your pearl, about the stocks of light oil in Venezuela
              because Venezuela supplies light grades of oil suitable for the production of high-octane fuel. And in this niche it is one of the world's largest suppliers.

              already say yes not about the level of your competence. and the lack of basic knowledge
              1. +3
                29 May 2017 11: 57
                not for you to judge my competence.
                indeed, I said not so much about light grades of oil - apparently, I read an outright blizzard somewhere. There are varieties of oil containing a decent proportion of sulfur, and only the USA and mb can process this product more or less efficiently now. Germany.
                For others, the chemical industry is less developed.
                1. +8
                  29 May 2017 12: 09
                  Quote: yehat
                  not for you to judge my competence.

                  Why
                  you kind of allow yourself
                  Quote: yehat
                  where did you get that you can somehow judge in this matter?

                  Quote: yehat
                  indeed, I said not so much about light grades of oil

                  Your entire post was built on this
                  Quote: yehat
                  Only the United States can now work more or less efficiently.

                  Oops, how did that turn that?
                  those impose US sanctions on the purchase of oil of Venezuela and Maduro the next day as I said
                  It will lead the Venezuelans with a bag to collect scraps from rubbish bins

                  by the way. and no matter what the United States does?
                  Doesn't fit in with the plot
                  1. +3
                    29 May 2017 12: 24
                    why are you pulling what is said out of context? What kind of UBLudochny behavior on a forum do you allow yourself? I, too, can pull from your texts so that you get a solid mat. Behave yourself properly
              2. 0
                29 May 2017 12: 15
                Face results

                I don’t know what you meant. When Chavez first came to power, external debt was already above 40 billion, there was strong inflation, a “saving” regime, etc. He was faced with the strongest opposition of those who lobbied for American "investors", there was a coup and a counter-coup.
                Today's situation is certainly no worse, given the inflation of the dollar.
                What Maduro met was weaker than what Chavez opposed.
                1. +6
                  29 May 2017 12: 24
                  Quote: yehat
                  I don’t know what you meant. When Chavez first came to power, external debt was already above 40 billion, there was strong inflation, a “saving” regime, etc.

                  After 16 years, the debt is over 75 billion, there is no saving anymore - there is simply hunger, inflation is the largest in the world.
                  So what have you achieved then?
                  Gentlemen are socialists with a Bolivarian physiognomy?
                  Today's situation is certainly no worse, given the inflation of the dollar.

                  Do you want to . what would I again go through your knowledge of the mat.part? Or google yourself?
                  1. 0
                    29 May 2017 12: 59
                    After 16 years, the debt is over 75 billion, there is no saving anymore - there is just hunger, inflation is the largest in the world

                    oh finally talking about something specific
                    Well, firstly, out of 16, throw out a coup and a time when Chavez was not in power.
                    It will be somehow different.
                    secondly, at the same time as the fall in oil prices, the United States launched a large-scale economic blockade, if not just a war
                    A much less powerful impact in Argentina led to serious problems in the economy and the resignation of the President with his replacement as a puppet Macri. And Japan was forced to declare war on the United States.
                    In Venezuela, this has not happened yet.
                    now the debt is 68. Maduro this year reduced it by 2.5 billion. Of these 68, about 16 are Russian.
                    Hunger? Government implements socially accessible nutrition program
                    No one forbids farming that is profitable.
                    If they want to work, they will not starve.
                    Inflation yes, a big 1600 percent seems.
                    But these are seeds in comparison with our inflation of the 90s.
                    1. +4
                      29 May 2017 17: 33
                      Quote: yehat
                      Well, firstly, out of 16, throw a coup and a time when Chavez was not in power

                      laughing
                      These were the only normal (in these 16 years) years.
                      Quote: yehat
                      secondly, at the same time as the fall in oil prices, the United States launched a large-scale economic blockade, if not just a war

                      do not lie. There are no economic sanctions against Venezuela and the US is one of the main buyers of its oil
                      Quote: yehat
                      A much less powerful impact in Argentina led to serious problems in the economy and the resignation of the President with his replacement as a puppet Macri. And Japan was forced to declare war on the United States.

                      the same komunyanka, came to power with the slogan - we will select and divide everything. Having seen through the most dynamically developing economy of South America
                      Quote: yehat
                      And Japan was forced to declare war on the United States.

                      belay
                      Quote: yehat
                      now the debt is 68. Maduro this year reduced it by 2.5 billion. Of these 68, about 16 are Russian.

                      laughing
                      Quote: yehat
                      Hunger? Government implements socially accessible nutrition program
                      No one forbids farming that is profitable.

                      why don't they? If profitable? Trump does not give?
                      Quote: yehat
                      If they want to work, they will not starve.

                      how is it in a country of victorious socialism and do not want to work? Well, of course, this is not America, there are no fools
                      Quote: yehat
                      inflation yes, a big 1600 percent seems.
                      But these are seeds in comparison with our inflation of the 90s

                      How many seeds should you pour to you?
                      1. 0
                        30 May 2017 09: 20
                        why don't they? If profitable? Trump does not give?

                        too accustomed to live in fat.
                        Now in the most severe crisis, the average salary of about $ 300 is not much, but you can live. in agriculture, wages are lower - about $ 150-200 and less household amenities, but they are not worried about food there, because partially subsistence farming.
                        So greed does not allow them to work and the desire for comfort.
                        In addition, there are not too many lands suitable for this.
                        However, with all the difficulties, half of Caracas can simply go to work "in the village" and there will be no hunger.
                2. +5
                  29 May 2017 12: 56
                  Another Jewish propaganda got out, look at the registration 2 weeks ago it was, scribbled under three hundred comments! I noticed that this troll, like other Jewish ones about Venezuela, also about Iran, and Syria write the same thing, but with different nicknames. About the fact that Russia, not losers (according to them) should be chosen, the other Jew had exactly everything with whom Russia cooperates, everything is bad and wrong, you need what these Jews say, yeah right now!
                  1. +2
                    29 May 2017 13: 11
                    not the fact that this is a Jew.
                    they hired some beggarly Ukrainian for $ 100 a month, that’s spar, writes through an Israeli proxy or in general, some “daughter of a Crimean officer” works in Langley.
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                    1. 0
                      29 May 2017 17: 54
                      what did poor Murzik whom you bury did to you?
                      some kind of flayer negative
              3. +5
                29 May 2017 13: 16
                Glory to the great commander Maduro. Glory to Chavez. Glory to the great Colombian revolution. Glory !!!!!!!!
                1. +2
                  29 May 2017 13: 27
                  it seems like there was no revolution there.
                  Chavez’s long-standing coup did not work, he came to power constitutionally.
                  Maduro is not overthrown. And what does Columbia have to do with it?
                  1. +3
                    29 May 2017 14: 01
                    Quote: yehat
                    it seems like there was no revolution there.

                    It was! The innovation revolution in the economy that has put American business into cancer.
                    Thanks to the economic miracle of Chavez, who is primarily thinking of ordinary people, not oligarchs. Venezuela has achieved the status of world power and forced even the United States to reckon with itself.
                    Quote: yehat
                    Chavez’s long-standing coup did not work, he came to power constitutionally

                    I agree completely. Chavez was supported by the people. He is indeed a people's president from the people.
                    Quote: yehat
                    Maduro did not overthrow

                    They will sweat to overthrow, 1000 marginals who stirs up water is nothing! Maduro supports 99% of the population.
                    Quote: yehat
                    And what does Columbia have to do with it?

                    Maduro, the leader of the Colombian revolution, his support for ordinary citizens of Colombia, according to recent polls, is breaking all records.
                    Citizens of Colombia, looking at the achievements in the economy of Venezuela, are moving with their families to Venezuela by the thousands.
                    I think the question of the unification of Venezuela and Colombia into a single country will soon arise.
              4. 0
                30 May 2017 09: 14
                He is a chemist!)))))) He even has no idea about rectification0)))))
            2. +5
              29 May 2017 11: 49
              Commentators with the Israeli flag after the nickname are specialists in all matters. Have you not yet figured this out?
              1. +2
                29 May 2017 14: 24
                Commentators with the Israeli flag after the nickname are specialists in all matters. Have you not yet figured this out?

                The site is top-end, and there is a 100% chance that their whole "influence department" is grazed here
      4. +2
        29 May 2017 12: 51
        incompetent mediocrity

        But can you find out exactly what Maduro is incompetent?
        Specifically, without slogans and quoting propaganda, what is mediocre and incompetent?
        I doubt that you will answer.
        1. +5
          29 May 2017 12: 59
          Quote: yehat
          а you can find out exactly what Maduro is incompetent?
          Specifically, without slogans and quoting propaganda, what is mediocre and incompetent?

          Are you serious ? belay

          Quote: yehat
          I doubt that you will answer.

          Well, it’s silly to answer it somehow.
          So you answer me, Yes or No, to the question
          “Have you stopped drinking vodka in the morning?” wink
          1. 0
            29 May 2017 13: 03
            blah blah blah again and no specifics
        2. +6
          29 May 2017 13: 18
          Quote: yehat
          But can you find out exactly what Maduro is incompetent?

          Maduro is competent in everything. He entered G *** and it sowed with gold. For whatever Maduro would undertake, everything turns out for him. We would have such a leader.
      5. 0
        1 June 2017 21: 13
        probably worth starting with the Aliyevs
    3. +5
      29 May 2017 11: 36
      And when will Russia begin to deal with Russia itself, and not with the inhabitants of Latin America?
      1. +3
        29 May 2017 13: 19
        Quote: siberalt
        And when will Russia begin to deal with Russia itself, and not with the inhabitants of Latin America?

        These are our brothers, we are obliged to help them.
        1. +2
          29 May 2017 14: 19
          somehow the amount of sarcasm that you pour out does not fit with the cheburashka on the avatar.
          1. +1
            29 May 2017 14: 47
            Quote: yehat
            somehow the amount of sarcasm you are pouring out

            Sarcasm? I set out the facts! Do not agree, refute !!!
            1. +2
              29 May 2017 14: 53
              so I do not see the facts. only slogans and distortions
              1. +1
                29 May 2017 15: 16
                Quote: yehat
                so I do not see the facts. only slogans and distortions

                Well, show me specifically where the juggling and slogans are.
        2. 0
          30 May 2017 03: 06
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: siberalt
          And when will Russia begin to deal with Russia itself, and not with the inhabitants of Latin America?

          These are our brothers, we are obliged to help them.

          By the way, they are closer geographically to you than to me ...
      2. +1
        29 May 2017 13: 37
        we cannot deal only with ourselves. The United States is pursuing a policy of economic isolation of the Russian Federation, and we need an economy with about a billion consumers to operate and develop industry.
        Now the Russian Federation has approximately 300 million. And even they are trying to destroy it - for example, events in Ukraine, the transition to the Latin alphabet in Kazakhstan

        Due to severe pressure from the United States, investment is the only way to expand the economic field.
    4. +1
      29 May 2017 14: 19
      Quote: avia12005
      And Russia, so far, has almost no allies

      There are always only 2 allies - the Russian army and the Russian fleet. All the rest are maximum partners. Never forget about it!
    5. 0
      30 May 2017 03: 03
      Quote: avia12005
      Russia can not retreat. If the United States takes Venezuela, someone else will be next. And Russia is already almost without allies.

      The arms market of Venezuela became available to us only under Hugo Chavez, before that it was always American, but now the Americans, in the wake of the economic problems of Venezuela, will return it to themselves ...
    6. +1
      30 May 2017 09: 04
      Naturally! I think Putin is not! We need to arm now, as much as possible, Iran! Fully support Venezuela and the Philippines!
  2. 0
    29 May 2017 08: 15
    Yes, everything is already clear there. Already the first green breeze blew, it will be necessary and will blow even harder and inflate to whom it is necessary both in the army and in the police. If the wind does not inflate, then choke on the rolls.
  3. +4
    29 May 2017 09: 03
    So, let's calmly, without wringing hands and tantrums. Venezuela is not some kind of socialist country where Chavez was a local Lenin and Simon Bolivar in one person. The oil industry there does not belong to the people and all that Chavez did was that he ordered the oil companies to share a small part of the oil revenues with the state in order to solve some kind of social needs. The lion's share of Venezuelan oil exports comes from the United States. What happens if the US takes Venezuela? Yes, there will be nothing. The US wants to rebuild its "backyard" - Latin America. True, they will receive a peculiar Latin Ukraine, a socially unbalanced country, possibly with a civil war. If they strive for this, then let them achieve it. They wreaked havoc in Africa, the Middle East, and Europe. They will only achieve another zone of chaos.
    1. +6
      29 May 2017 10: 33
      Quote: Altona
      to, let's calmly, without wringing hands and tantrums. Venezuela is not some kind of socialist country where Chavez was a local Lenin and Simon Bolivar in one person

      Are you seriously ?
      Quote: Altona
      The oil industry there does not belong to the people and all that Chavez did was that he ordered the oil companies to share a small part of the oil revenues with the state in order to solve some social needs.

      Do not tell tales, Chavez nationalized the entire oil industry
      Quote: Altona
      The lion's share of Venezuelan oil exports comes from the United States. What happens if the US takes Venezuela? Yes, there will be nothing.

      And why the hell should they take her? She pumped oil in the United States - and pumps, and take, to get hemorrhoids?
      1. +2
        29 May 2017 11: 30
        The United States buys oil, but does not fully control the supplier, and it’s very important to them,
        because Venezuela supplies light grades of oil suitable for the production of high-octane fuel. And in this niche it is one of the world's largest suppliers.
        The Russian Federation in this regard is very useful to be friends with Venezuela, because we have mainly heavy grades of oil and high-octane fuel strains.
        So the United States in the struggle for control of Venezuela is trying to kill a whole herd of rabbits, 2 of which are the interests of supplying the United States and the Russian Federation.
        1. 0
          29 May 2017 11: 37
          Quote: yehat
          The United States buys oil, but does not fully control the supplier, and it’s very important to them,

          Well, it’s not quite so, for they themselves produce the same light oil from offshore platforms, but are forced to export it because their refineries are focused on sulfur oil
        2. +4
          29 May 2017 11: 39
          Quote: yehat
          The United States buys oil, but does not fully control the supplier, and it’s very important to them,

          Venezuela is not important to the United States because oil in the world is sea and in the USA, including they can buy it everywhere.
          But Venezuelan oil can be refined only in the USA.
          So refuse the United States to buy it and Venezuela will go, led by Maduro, to collect scraps around the world
          Quote: yehat
          because Venezuela supplies light grades of oil suitable for the production of high-octane fuel. And in this niche it is one of the world's largest suppliers.

          Do not write nonsense, in Venezuela, heavy and superheavy grades of oil.
          Quote: yehat
          The Russian Federation in this regard is very useful to be friends with Venezuela, because we have mainly heavy grades of oil and high-octane fuel strains.

          laughing
          Quote: yehat
          So the US in the struggle for control of Venezuela is trying to kill a whole herd of hares

          So . that before you write something, take an interest in at least info
          http://www.petrobak.com/index.php?page=3&id_p
          ipe = 2136
          1. 0
            29 May 2017 12: 51
            For karish
            tk oil in the sea world

            And where are smart people born. What about your oil, is production normal? Who do you trade with or does not make sense. because oil in the sea world?
            1. +6
              29 May 2017 12: 55
              Quote: rotmistr60
              And where are smart people born

              In Gomel laughing
              Quote: rotmistr60
              What about your oil, is production normal?

              And where does the production? In Venezuela, she’s going fine, but in such a pope laughing
              We do not have oil, but this does not stop me from regularly filling the tank, for 1.6 bucks per liter.

              Quote: rotmistr60
              Who do you trade with or does not make sense. because oil in the sea world?

              Well, is there a problem with the purchase?
              You agree to limit production, probably all because there is not enough oil in the world laughing
              1. +2
                29 May 2017 12: 59
                It remains only to answer that a Jew, he and a Jew born in Gomel, will always get out.
              2. +1
                29 May 2017 13: 41
                Quote: karish
                In Venezuela, she’s going fine,

                And who said that Venezuela is in the pope? Where is the proof ? Watching opposition reports about supposedly hungry riots is nonsense.
                I repeat once again, the standard of living in Venezuela is approximately equal to the standard of living in Luxembourg.

                Many in Russia are now buying luxury mansions in the suburbs of Caracas. This status is prestige. This is the level!
                Quote: karish
                We do not have oil, but this does not stop me from regularly filling the tank, for 1.6 bucks per liter.

                Yeah, that’s it, and in Venezuela, gas costs nothing. There the government doesn’t profit from its citizens, unlike the capitalist world of merchants and grabbers.
              3. 0
                30 May 2017 09: 09
                Apparently, they want to refuel the Venezuelan))) Raw))))
          2. 0
            30 May 2017 03: 44
            karish Yesterday, 11: 39 ↑ New
            Quote: yehat
            The United States buys oil, but does not fully control the supplier, and it’s very important to them,
            Venezuela is not important to the United States because oil in the world is sea and in the USA, including they can buy it everywhere.
            But Venezuelan oil can be refined only in the USA.

            And then China and the Russian Federation in Venezuela did not build refineries to process this oil, which means not only the United States can process it, it is logical then, the Russian Federation and China buy light oil from Venezuela, they process and drink it, then they sell it to Venezuela B and BT, and Venezuela buys B and BT from the Russian Federation and China on the proceeds from the sale of oil.
            I thought there was such a plan that the USA did not like, because:
            1. For the place of the United States, they are buying oil, some of them are from the Russian Federation and China;
            2. The US does not control the sale of Venezuelan oil, which the US needs;
            3. The US is losing the arms market of Venezuela.
            If this is so, it is not easier for the Russian Federation to agree with the United States and divide the arms market of Venezuela and become monopolists of Venezuelan oil, and who will be in power, what's the difference, the main thing is not to get in the way ....
            1. 0
              30 May 2017 09: 10
              Does your head work?))))) What is it to drive to the Russian Federation, and to hell?))))
            2. 0
              30 May 2017 09: 29
              I made a mistake in the first post - the quality of the bulk of Venezuelan oil is not the best,
              and therefore, is not a top strategic priority.
              Oil from Ploiesti and Saudi Arabia is much more important for developed countries.
              China, through interventions of capital, is trying to take control of any resources around the world, because there are not enough of them, and the USA at any moment can create problems with their receipt in the "free market".

              As for the use of Venezuelan oil from the Russian Federation, we have opened a fleet logistics terminal there, which can refuel ships. And only a small supply of high-octane fuel.
    2. +1
      29 May 2017 10: 45
      so the US needs chaos everywhere. With their control of trade, it is they who will profit from this. And the rest needs peace and stability.
    3. +4
      29 May 2017 13: 21
      Quote: Altona
      . Venezuela is not some kind of socialist country,

      Maduro is also a ray of light in the darkness of the capitalist world.
      Quote: Altona
      The oil industry there does not belong to the people and all that Chavez did was that he ordered the oil companies to share a small part of the oil revenues with the state in order to solve some social needs.

      Chavez was thinking primarily about the people. He is a great leader, will remain in our hearts.
  4. +13
    29 May 2017 09: 03
    If Russia loses Venezuela ...

    You can’t believe what you don’t have.

    Moreover, Venezuela is a stable customer of new Russian weapons, replenishing the budget of Russian industrial enterprises by billions of dollars.

    However, buying everything for Russian money which is not a fact that someone will return.

    The loss of Venezuela by Russia not only throws our country away from this impressive market and makes it impossible to earn more from the maintenance of the supplied equipment, but also deprives it of having an important partner not only in the military-industrial sphere, but also in the sphere of hydrocarbon market regulation.

    What can you do if the Kremlin again set the wrong horse by choosing an inadequate Chavez who drove the richest oil country into hunger.

    Hopefully this is true. I would like to hope that both in Moscow and in Caracas today they understand the cost of defeating those forces for which the real interests of Venezuelan citizens are just a shell for transferring the country to manual control of Washington.

    Of course, I understand that when the leader of a country acts contrary to the elementary laws of the economy, driving his country into poverty, Washington is always to blame. I won’t even argue with that. I just tell you about those two Venezuelans with whom I studied at the university, from whom Chavez was taken away by their family business, who worked in Venezuela with the 1920's, whom he forced Spain to flee. Let them know that Washington is to blame.
    1. +4
      29 May 2017 10: 47
      inadequate chavez

      end propaganda
      Chavez is more adequate in 100 times Hollande or Merkel or Trump.
      Unless the Chinese leadership is clearly inferior.
      1. +7
        29 May 2017 11: 06
        Quote: yehat
        Chavez is more adequate in 100 times Hollande or Merkel or Trump.

        Chávez is dead and his soul watches Maduro with some relief.
        With one thought
        1. +2
          29 May 2017 11: 31
          Chavez was a person. He alone could repress riots, without the army and police.
          Enough to carry nonsense, hinting that he was afraid of this.
          1. +5
            29 May 2017 13: 10
            His happiness was that he died with high oil. If he was in power now - his "authority" and charisma would have helped him little. When the most necessary is missing, and the situation is getting worse, it no longer helps.
            1. 0
              29 May 2017 13: 41
              Chavez died at a long-falling oil price.
              His charisma was needed not for forceful decisions of the government, but to unite the poor in the fight against lobbyists of foreign capital and corrupt officials and to draw power through real consensus in society. Unfortunately, Maduro does not have such authority, which gives rise to fermentation in society.
              1. +2
                29 May 2017 14: 19
                Look when Chavez died, and when there was a collapse in oil prices. If Chavez was alive today - it would be the same, because the economy can not be deceived by "charisma", populism and demagogy.
      2. +4
        29 May 2017 13: 22
        Quote: yehat
        Chavez is more adequate in 100 times Hollande or Merkel or Trump.

        Correctly ! Great leader, great countries
    2. 0
      29 May 2017 13: 15
      and what kind of business did they have in Venezuela? There, only 3 types of business are active - agriculture, wage labor for oil workers and services. I think that the third was “taken away” from them, although I am sure that nobody needed it, but simply the lobbyists of Wall Street interests were left without work.
    3. 0
      30 May 2017 03: 55
      Professor What can you do if the Kremlin again put the wrong horse on the choice of an inadequate Chavez

      You think nothing can be fixed? If the Russian Federation stupidly becomes a monopoly of the Venezuelan business, and the finished products will be sold by the United States or other countries controlled by the United States. That is, the Russian Federation becomes the External Manager of Venezuela, then the United States will get rid of all the difficulties in changing the government.
      1. 0
        30 May 2017 09: 32
        that is the problem of the Russian Federation - we do not strive to become an external manager, just equal trade is enough for us. And you cannot squeeze superprofits like that.
        I did not forget those times when in the CMEA of the USSR I sold a modern tank for a pea car
        and sold a lot at low prices.
        I remember that pipes for a pipeline to Germany cost more than paying for the hydrocarbons received through this pipeline. I have not forgotten this economic insanity.
  5. +3
    29 May 2017 09: 05
    Quote: professor
    You can’t believe what you don’t have.

    ---------------------
    Professor agrees, Latinos is an analogue of Khokhl. I want to be right, but hto feed, it doesn’t matter.
  6. +3
    29 May 2017 09: 21
    Quote: avia12005
    Negotiations are underway on the supply of Venezuela the latest Russian Su-35 fighters, patrol boats.
    If they are conducted, then on credit, because Venezuela does not have money after the collapse of oil prices and will not appear in the future with such a government. So this is no longer an impressive market, but we are already reducing the defense budget - it’s better to put new equipment into your army than to the next “allies”
  7. +8
    29 May 2017 09: 21
    The article is dense. The current regime of Venezuela is a patented loser, which drove the country's economy into its deepest ass. To maintain such a regime is to throw billions into a black hole.
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    2. +3
      29 May 2017 13: 17
      Quote: Lancer
      it's throwing billions into a black hole.

      Your national - to count other billions? If you care so much about the welfare of Russia, throw up your shekels with your Israeli comrades (and we will convert them into rubles) to your historic homeland.
      Quote: Lancer
      The article is dense.

      You, dear, have thrown your Homeland and decided to acquire a new one, and therefore you are not here to sing songs about drowsiness / drowsiness, loser and modes.
      1. 0
        29 May 2017 16: 06
        I have a mutually respected historical homeland - Israel. And "prehistoric" - Ukraine. But it’s pointless to give it money, because no matter how much you give to the current government, the result will be the same, they’ll still remain, as they say in the same prehistoric one: nizh for free ".
    3. +6
      29 May 2017 13: 25
      Quote: Lancer
      The article is dense. The current regime of Venezuela is a patented loser, which drove the country's economy into the deepest ass.

      Just do not lie, the standard of living in Venezuela is many times higher than the standard of living in Israel. Israel to Venezuela, as to the moon from the constellation Cancer.
      I’m thinking about moving to Caracas for permanent residence.
      1. 0
        29 May 2017 16: 00
        And there is :)))
  8. +4
    29 May 2017 10: 16
    Of course, now it’s too late .... but: I would advise Venezuelan managers to make maximum efforts to conduct R&D on the alternative use of oil. Venezuela has unique heavy oils with a high content of asphaltenes and vanadium. For the export of oil as raw materials, this is bad, but for the production of qualitatively new high-strength carbon 3D frames, this is a very positive circumstance! The development, development and direction of this innovative product primarily in the domestic market (for example, in construction) would allow a positive impact on the economic situation, would provoke an influx of investments, etc. In general, war is war, but once you have to deal with the economy. Although of course, when the war, then it’s not before that ..
    1. +8
      29 May 2017 10: 36
      Quote: Dashout
      Of course, now it’s too late .... but: I would advise Venezuelan managers to make maximum efforts to conduct R&D on the alternative use of oil

      R&D will not make sausage from oil
      Quote: Dashout
      For the export of oil as a raw material, this is bad, but for the production of qualitatively new high-strength 3D carbon frames, this is a very positive circumstance!

      What universe do you live in?
      They have nothing to eat, and you're talking about carbon frames fool
      Quote: Dashout
      would trigger an influx of investment

      where to Venezuela?
      Sick and crazy - no
      1. +5
        29 May 2017 13: 31
        Quote: karish
        They have nothing to eat, and you're talking about carbon frames

        An abundance of goods in stores in Venezuela. Photo fact Everything is very cheap, even cottage cheese is from Russia
        Quote: karish
        Sick and crazy - no

        All my friends are now buying shares of Venezuelan companies. There is an insaid that in the near future their growth will amount to 1000%. Maduro is a wise politician and will put the US cancer as their own weapon.
        1. 0
          29 May 2017 17: 21
          Photos from "Mani" delivered! :)))))))) ("Manya" is one of the largest "Russian" networks in Israel).
    2. 0
      29 May 2017 13: 51
      I'm afraid Venezuela’s niocra will not pull. There is no industry, and therefore there is no serious science of its own.
      They could unite with Russia and invest in research and development, since both countries need research results. Moreover, on a barter basis.
      In addition, all the same, sulfur needs to be extracted from oil and disposed of, and for this it is necessary to plan a complete processing cycle, which is larger than the initial task and no one, even the United States, has been able to fully draw it up.
      1. +4
        29 May 2017 19: 22
        Our oilmen do not need this at all! They need million tons for export.
        Quote: yehat
        In addition, all the same, sulfur needs to be extracted from oil and disposed of, and for this it is necessary to plan a complete processing cycle, which is larger than the initial task and no one, even the United States, has been able to fully draw it up.

        Well, it’s you who follow the famous fuel scheme, and if you move away from it
        In my patent of the Russian Federation No. 2537306, I proposed a different scheme! According to the method I propose, sulfur does not need to be specifically removed - it will pop up itself! But unfortunately, nobody needs all this ...
        Here is a photo of the prototype 3D frame
        1. 0
          30 May 2017 09: 34

          It’s good if your patent works and sulfur jumps out already. Where are you going to get her?
          Pour sulfuric acid into an adjacent river or pour sulfuric salts into the whole district?
          i'm talking about it
    3. 0
      29 May 2017 20: 01
      Quote: Dashout
      ..it’s now too late ..... I would advise Venezuelan managers to make maximum efforts to conduct R&D on the alternative use of oil ..


      - did the patient sweat before death?
      - Yes
      - this is encouraging ...
  9. +5
    29 May 2017 10: 25
    Moreover, the official rate differs from the course on the black market by more than a third.

    by a third?
    as far as I know . difference at times

    Re: Money Exchange in Venezuela
    Message: # 1043
    Posted by marcus_alvarez on Mar 31, 2017 18:52 pm

    For 2017, little has changed, except for the course))
    SIMADI course - 700 for $
    The normal course can be viewed here https://twitter.com/dolartoday
    Sites are often blocked. Those that do not block will often copy-paste the course from the same twitter. The course on this site is rather indicative, this is the best price for exchange by bank transfer and a large amount. But if today it shows 3400 for $ 1, then on the street the rally will be changed for 3000. You can bargain for the best price, most likely they will bend. But this is an individual issue.
    You can change at the airport of Caracas. You don’t have to look for anyone, they will turn to you quickly themselves.
    In no case should you leave the airport for an exchange, get into the car to the money changer.
    Changing large amounts is not worth it.
    Prepare the free space in the backpack for storing the "cutlets". Standing in plain sight with an armful of money is a fatal mistake. Remember! Having exchanged $ 100, you will receive 300 000Bsf, with banknotes of 100Bsf - at best! These are 30 chubby packs. The new currency - banknotes of 500, 2000, 5000, 10000, 20000, have not been launched into mass circulation. Appeared in January 2017, and again disappeared.
    To the question of saving nerves:
    1. 0
      29 May 2017 13: 55
      in such muddy water, speculators can do any course at all. It’s not even a matter of economics,
      rather, a matter of restoring order.
  10. +1
    29 May 2017 10: 38
    Quote: karish
    Do not tell tales, Chavez nationalized the entire oil industry

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    Do not sing kadishi, Chavez did nothing. Otherwise, Wikipedia would declare him a dictator. Intentions were, and the gut is thin.
    In early January 2007, Hugo Chavez announced the upcoming nationalization of Venezuela's largest telecommunications and electric companies, Compania Nacional de Telefonos de Venezuela (CANTV) and EdC, controlled by US firms. It also refers to the intention of Venezuela to obtain a controlling stake in the oil and refining companies ExxonMobil, Shevron, Total, ConocoPhillips, Statoil, BP. According to Chavez, he intends to build "socialism of the XXI century."
    If the listed companies are Venezuelan, then I am a Jewish pilot.
    1. +5
      29 May 2017 11: 44
      Quote: Altona
      In early January 2007, Hugo Chavez announced the upcoming nationalization of Venezuela's largest telecommunications and electric companies, Compania Nacional de Telefonos de Venezuela (CANTV) and EdC, controlled by US firms. It also refers to the intention of Venezuela to obtain a controlling stake in the oil and refining companies ExxonMobil, Shevron, Total, ConocoPhillips, Statoil, BP. According to Chavez, he intends to build "socialism of the XXI century."
      If the listed companies are Venezuelan, then I am a Jewish pilot.

      Well, of course, they are in Africa, and nationalizing them, they moved to Antarctica laughing
      1. +3
        29 May 2017 13: 33
        Quote: karish
        and nationalize them

        By nationalizing them, he returned the country's wealth to the people. For that, the people of Venezuela are grateful to him.
  11. +1
    29 May 2017 10: 41
    Quote: karish
    Are you seriously ?

    ---------------------
    And what did Chavez do? I bought a couple of fighters, 100 thousand AK-103, well, is there something super-ally about it? Pffff ...
    1. +6
      29 May 2017 11: 46
      Quote: Altona
      And what did Chavez do? I bought a couple of fighters, 100 thousand AK-103, well, is there something super-ally about it? Pffff ...

      well, a mad dog of 100 miles is not a circle.
      On Monday, an order from the Russian government was published on the official legal information portal on Monday, which approved the draft intergovernmental protocol with Venezuela on the postponement of the payment of Russia's debt by Russia to the total amount of $ 23 billion

      little things laughing
      150 billion
  12. +3
    29 May 2017 10: 41
    Hmm .... why do we have "friends and partners" worse than enemies?
    1. +4
      29 May 2017 13: 33
      Quote: mahoney
      Hmm .... why do we have "friends and partners" worse than enemies?

      This is you enemy, Venezuela is the shield of our country from the southern direction of the USA.
  13. +6
    29 May 2017 11: 27
    Betting on another lame horse. Assad you little or something?
    1. +3
      29 May 2017 13: 34
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Betting on another lame horse. Assad you little or something?

      Lame horse in the white house. Maduro is our only reliable ally.
  14. +6
    29 May 2017 11: 33
    And why from the time of the USSR to modern Russia do we always support the most stubborn regimes?
    1. +2
      29 May 2017 12: 53
      ied9999
      "And why from the time of the USSR to modern Russia do we always support the most stubborn regimes?"
      The fisherman, as they say, is a fisherman ... To say the least.
    2. +1
      30 May 2017 00: 12
      Quote: ied9999
      And why from the time of the USSR to modern Russia do we always support the most stubborn regimes?

      Stubborn are not born, stubborn become.
  15. +1
    29 May 2017 11: 47
    Quote: karish
    Well, of course, they are in Africa, and nationalizing them, they moved to Antarctica

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    How did he nationalize them? I have not heard Exxon Mobile become Venezuelan. This is probably something yours. Propaganda from the TV does wonders, instead. to objectively collect the facts.
  16. 0
    29 May 2017 11: 49
    Quote: karish
    well, a mad dog of 100 miles is not a circle.

    ----------------------------
    What do you want from me? I immediately said that Venezuela is an ally of the TV, in fact it is ballast and competitor.
  17. +2
    29 May 2017 11: 52
    Moreover, it should be noted that the "friends of Venezuela" tried to do everything so that Maduro began to make one economic mistake after another

    You can’t take and not blame the external enemy for all problems laughing I, who hates US foreign policy long before Kiselev and Solovyov declared Obama an enemy, are already enraged by this trend. To send the praisers of Maduro to hungry Venezuela, they would howl from such a life.
    Comrade propagandists, my mobile phone is malfunctioning, and the fuel sensor in the car is behaving strangely - maybe it was Obama and Trump who broke them for me? laughing
  18. +3
    29 May 2017 13: 12
    Quote: karish
    R&D will not make sausage from oil

    You say this to the DPRK. Sausages may not exist, but in terms of the military and technical forces they have advanced thoroughly .. R&D is the future!
    1. +6
      29 May 2017 13: 15
      Quote: Dashout
      You say this to the DPRK. Sausages may not exist, but in terms of the military and technical forces they have advanced thoroughly .. R&D is the future!

      Yes, the DPRK is an interesting attribute for you. Just an example to follow.
      If your photo is on av, you would have to lose weight in the DPRK, the DPRK will not pull two wink
      Do not take those personally, so remark.
    2. +1
      29 May 2017 13: 55
      Quote: Dashout
      Sausages may not,

      If you don’t sell dog meat in stores in Russia, this does not mean that we are starving. In DPRK stores, the assortment is several times higher than in the Russian hinterland. And the quality of the products, there’s nothing to talk about at all. Delicious, healthy food, not that what we have is not clear what is made of.
      Quote: Dashout
      R&D is the future!

      I agree!
      And what is R&D?
      1. +5
        29 May 2017 14: 22
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what is R&D?

      2. 0
        29 May 2017 14: 37
        In the DPRK stores ... than in the Russian outback

        I’m not sure that in the outback of the DPRK there are shops in general recourse
        I saw what poverty is not - primitiveness of life
        there are small remnants of past cooperation with the USSR in the form of running water intermittently and electricity supplies on schedule, but that’s all.
        Their bath in the outback is often not the place where they wash themselves, but the place where the owners and their neighbors draw water. 90% of cars in the capital are the army and the state, there are very few personal vehicles, even mopeds. Primitive attempts by the population to earn at least something or create their own business often run into prohibitions. This is a bit like the most bearish corners that were sometimes found in the USSR, but the whole country lives like this. In Venezuela, people do not live that way, much richer. I will say more, they often live better in Caracas than in Russia behind the Ring Road.
        At least the average salary in my hometown is approximately equal to that in Caracas (300 $), but gasoline is not free, there are no social programs for cheap food and other services, but there are harsh winters and a lack of fresh food.
        1. +3
          29 May 2017 15: 01
          Quote: yehat
          I’m not sure that in the outback of the DPRK there are shops in general

          Just do not need this American propaganda. Here is a store in the outback of the DPRK, there is not just everything, but just abundance.
          And all this costs practically nothing. If it was not possible to sell everything by evening, sellers give out everything for free. To trade in the morning, only fresh.
          Quote: yehat
          I saw what poverty is not - primitiveness of life

          Frank pro-Western lies. Be serious.
          Quote: yehat
          there are small remnants of past cooperation with the USSR in the form of running water intermittently and electricity supplies on schedule, but that’s all.

          Yes, but this is part of the historical exposition. so to speak. open-air museums. So that everyone can see how people live in outside of Seoul.
          Quote: yehat
          Cars outside the capital 90% - the army and the state, there are very few personal vehicles, even mopeds.

          Well, not ridiculously respected. Come on, we’ll still be objective. The depth of the DPRK is blooming, all in green. Fresh air and the virginity of nature. The fact that there are few cars, people just don’t want to take them. People think about the environment and that’s right.
          Quote: yehat
          Primitive attempts by the population to earn at least something or create their own business often run into prohibitions.

          Where? Who! When banned?
          Quote: yehat
          In Venezuela, people do not live that way, much richer. I will say more, they often live better in Caracas than in Russia behind the Ring Road.

          I agree, I will say more, to the average American, only to dream about this. After paying all the loans and taxes, the average American runs for grocery cards. Because there’s simply nothing to buy.
          Quote: yehat
          At least the average salary in my hometown is approximately equal to that in Caracas (300 $), but gasoline is not free, there are no social programs for cheap food and other services, but there are harsh winters and a lack of fresh food.

          Just now I’m looking through sites for the sale of real estate in Caracas, maybe I can pick up a good apartment.
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            1. +1
              29 May 2017 15: 14
              Quote: ied9999
              Your photo from Korea - yes. Only from the south

              Here is the outback of South Korea. To make money on food, you need to sweat well
              What can I say, a worthy capitalist life.
              1. 0
                29 May 2017 15: 21
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                .To earn money on food, you need to sweat well

                What can I say, a worthy capitalist life.

                About how ... you just have to say and show a photo from our village since the Soviet Union and then there was a cry, a..slaves, slavery..a .... promote, feudalism ..
                1. +2
                  29 May 2017 15: 35
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  About how ... you just have to say and show a photo from our village since the Soviet Union and then there was a cry, a..slaves, slavery..a .... promote, feudalism ..

                  Well, who is yelling then. The standard of living in the USSR was higher than in Germany. We were the second economies of the world.
                  1. +1
                    29 May 2017 15: 48
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    About how ... you just have to say and show a photo from our village since the Soviet Union and then there was a cry, a..slaves, slavery..a .... promote, feudalism ..

                    Well, who is yelling then. The standard of living in the USSR was higher than in Germany. We were the second economies of the world.

                    Will you challenge?
                    1. +2
                      29 May 2017 15: 50
                      Quote: Pancir026
                      Will you challenge?

                      Who are you now? Something I do not think well. After the second liter of beer
              2. 0
                29 May 2017 15: 24
                in fairness, most of Yu.K. townspeople
                and more likely to be smacked in workshops and offices.
                moreover, due to the fact that the sociability of the South Koreans has no boundaries and they often know everyone not only in their own homes, but also in neighboring houses, this leaves an imprint on how the townspeople work. Extremely high degree of integration into the team.
                it looks a little unexpected for Europeans
                1. +1
                  29 May 2017 15: 28
                  Quote: yehat
                  and more likely to be smacked in workshops and offices.

                  The tip of the iceberg advertised in the media. Most work like dad Carlo. At the same time, they will not take you to work near the residence. They will offer work far from home. That you would buy a car on credit. To drive you into debt of bank breakers.
                  Everything is thought out there. And it is thought out in such a way that a slave would not feel like a slave. For the time being, of course, of course ..
                  1. 0
                    29 May 2017 15: 30
                    I don’t know about logistics, but is it better with us?
                    1. +1
                      29 May 2017 15: 37
                      Quote: yehat
                      but is it better with us?

                      What am I talking about? Look carefully at Venezuela. There, no one is robbing people.
                      In the DPRK there are bank breakers drove people into debt?
                      1. +1
                        29 May 2017 15: 49
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Look carefully at Venezuela. There, no one is robbing people.

                        Yes? And what does the leader of the pro-American opposition do? With his nouveau riche friends?
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        In the DPRK there are bank breakers drove people into debt?

                        But we have their shaft, will you dispute?
                      2. 0
                        29 May 2017 17: 30
                        So you managed to pick up a couple, although it turned out very thickly :)
                      3. 0
                        29 May 2017 17: 57
                        and what to drive them, they already owe it to the party and personally to the Kim family
                        I just don’t understand the personal mechanism of when and how exactly
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  19. +3
    29 May 2017 19: 28
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And what is R&D?

    In vain you are on me, I have no complaints about the DPRK, but vice versa!
    R&D is an abbreviation for: research and development.
    Above, I showed the patent number and prototype photo of carbon 3D frames
  20. +1
    30 May 2017 11: 46
    Yes, Venezuela doesn’t have any money, what kind of arms supply? Is it. what a loan.
  21. +3
    30 May 2017 12: 42
    Quote: yehat
    It’s good if your patent works and sulfur jumps out already. Where are you going to get her?
    Pour sulfuric acid into an adjacent river or pour sulfuric salts into the whole district?
    i'm talking about it

    It seems to me that the tone of your posts is a bit arrogant .. In vain ..
    I would convert sulfur to solid form and, for example, would drive it under the road in the form of road ballast. By solid form, I mean a mixture of sulfur with other hydrocarbon compounds. One example is ebonite. 50% sulfur in the composition ... The goal must be to design complex processing methods. And in this regard, I really like Venezuelan superheavy oil! I'm thinking that in the future there will be active demand behind her ..
    1. 0
      30 May 2017 18: 04
      It seems to me that the tone of your posts is a bit arrogant .. In vain ..

      not in vain. all these chemical processing projects are constantly suffering from the same thing -
      it turns out a lot of waste. Disposal of sulfur is not as easy as you think.
      oil is an important resource for the chemical industry, but the haste in its processing destroys the ecology, the lack of technology and the inefficiency of processes forces us to save and do nothing even when they can.
      1. +3
        30 May 2017 20: 33
        I apologize, you read well what I wrote above: ",,, We must set a goal design of integrated processing methods. And in this regard, I really like Venezuelan superheavy oil! I'm thinking behind her in future, there will be strong demand. ".
  22. 0
    30 May 2017 20: 41
    “The loss of Venezuela by Russia not only throws our country away from this impressive market and makes it impossible to earn more on the maintenance of the equipment supplied, but also deprives it of having an important partner not only in the military-industrial sphere, but also in the sphere of regulating the hydrocarbon market. Contacts built over the years at the same time there are significant risks for Venezuela itself to plunge into the maw of a civil war. There are enough ideological chaos. "

    Honestly, such a Pragmatic passage is more common for Americans, not for Russians.
    The country has inflation.
    The country is split into two almost identical warring camps.
    The economy is focused strictly on the sale of oil and oil products.
    Major buyers are USA and China.
    Russia got into it only in order to take over, through Venezuelans, trading networks in the USA.
    Venezuela has no enemies in the region. There are no conflicts with neighbors.
    Weapons, while so modern as we sell them to them, have practically nothing to do with them.
    Can only show off.
    We regret the possible loss of the market.
    And the fact that it burns there and not weakly does not bother us.
    And people have to pay for everything.
    And for the good. And for the bad.
    This is a lesson for Russia.
    What about the market?
    We don’t sell baby milk there.
    There will be others.
    And do not grieve.
    1. 0
      31 May 2017 09: 36
      Venezuela has no enemies in the region

      Yes, are you sure about that?
      Venezuela has a difficult relationship with the US and 1 neighbor; there were armed skirmishes
  23. 0
    31 May 2017 07: 45
    Quote: Setrac
    The three most aggressive terrorist organizations in the world:
    USA
    United Kingdom
    France...

    Strange, but our president, elected lawfully and popularly supported, calls them partners ...
  24. 0
    15 August 2017 21: 58
    to Venezuela, doher their problems, again we squander money

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