Air Defense of the Islamic Republic of Iran (part 3)

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During the Iran-Iraq war, a significant role in the reflection of Iraqi raids aviation played low-altitude air defense systems British-made Rapier. These complexes were actively used until about the second half of the 90s. However, due to wear and tear and the impossibility of acquiring air-conditioned missiles and spare parts, Iranian specialists had to carry out restoration repairs themselves and, possibly, set up the production of missiles. However, unlike the I-Hawk air defense system, on the basis of which the Iranian Mersad was created, there is no information about the creation in Iran of its own version of Rapier. Some time ago, the American intelligence services managed to suppress the supply to the Islamic Republic of the "unnamed African country" of components "for anti-aircraft systems of British manufacture. Most likely, it was about the Rapier, since the very ancient Tigercat was long written off.





In the West, many experts believe that the air defense system "Rapier" remained in Iran in single copies and are intended primarily for demonstration at parades and exhibitions with the aim of misleading potential aggressors and raising the patriotic feelings of their own people.

To replace the British short-range complexes in Iran on the basis of the HQ-7 SAM system (Chinese version of the French Crotale), the Ya Zahra-2010 SAM system was created in 3 in the year. The first FM-80 anti-aircraft systems (export version of HQ-7) were obtained as early as 1989. Soon, the production of missiles, which received the Iranian designation Shahab Thaqeb, was launched. At the beginning of the 21 century, a complex of its own production appeared, and Chinese FM-80 underwent repairs and upgrades. The Shahab Thaqeb missile defense system with a radio command guidance system is capable of hitting targets at a distance from 0,5 to 12 km and altitude from 0,03 to 5 km. That, in general, corresponds to the characteristics of the Soviet mobile OSR "Osa-AKM".

Air Defense of the Islamic Republic of Iran (part 3)

FM-80


Unlike the Chinese HQ-7 ADMS mounted on light-armored wheeled vehicles, all elements of the export FM-80 are placed on a two-axle towed trailer. The FM-80 ADMS together with four ready-to-use missiles in massive TLCs include: a single-pulse target tracking radar, an optical-electronic module with a target tracking system and an infrared direction finder for automatic tracking of missiles.



The diesel generator used as a power source is usually located on the truck-towing unit of the air defense system. The control cabin is located on another off-road truck or towed van.



At the firing position, all elements of the air defense missile system are interconnected by cable lines. Radio targeting is provided by the Matla ul-Fajr or Kashef-2 radar. In Iran, the FM-80 SAM systems are often used together with paired 35-mm anti-aircraft guns, in this case, the complex includes Skyguard anti-aircraft fire control system.


Sugo skyguard


In 2013, the Herz-9 SAM system was presented in public, which also uses Shahab Thaqeb missiles. All elements of the complex are located on the wheelbase of the two-axle truck MAN 10-153, but at the same time the number of missiles in the WPK was reduced to two units.


SAM Herz-9


After the appearance of the photos of Herz-9, most experts agreed that the Iranians managed to significantly reduce the size of the hardware of the complex and place all the elements of the air defense system on one chassis. But at the same time, due to the nature of placement of missiles, significant difficulties arise in recharging, and a special crane or manipulator will have to be introduced into the zenith battery. To date, there is no data on the adoption of the air defense system Herz-9 into service.

Of course, the most effective short-range anti-aircraft missile systems available in the armed forces of the Islamic Republic are the Tor combat vehicles. According to official data, in December 2005 of the year a contract was concluded worth $ 700 million for the supply of 29 X-TRUM M9 331X1 combat vehicles. Deliveries of "Thors" in Iran began in the first half of 2006. According to Sergey Chemezov, Rosoboronexport Director General, in January 2007, Russia fully fulfilled its obligations under this contract.


9K331 Iranian Tor-M1 air defense missile system


The combat capabilities of Tor-M1 are significantly increased compared with the early version of the complex. The Tor-M1 was the first Russian military air defense system with radar, which uses a phased antenna array with electronically controlled beam scanning. This constructive solution makes it possible to significantly reduce the reaction time and to produce, with high accuracy, automatic tracking and destruction of two targets simultaneously. High-performance computing tools based on specially developed algorithms, allowed to achieve full automation of the whole process of combat work, from the analysis of the air situation to the destruction of the target.

The 9K331 "Tor-M1" combat vehicle is a minimum unit capable of conducting combat operations autonomously - from detecting air targets to their destruction. To do this, the combat vehicle has its own means of detection, guidance and communications: detection radar, guidance and tracking station, a radar interrogator, a television-optical viewfinder, navigation equipment, aerial display, control of the functioning of the systems and facilities of the combat vehicle. Eight ready-to-launch missiles are located in the antenna-launch module. Vertical rocket launch is provided with a catapult device. The Tor-M1 air defense system is capable of destroying air targets (including high-precision weapons) with a probability of 0,5-0,99, at a distance of 1,5-12 km and an altitude of 0,01-6,0 km. The anti-aircraft missile battery includes 4 combat vehicles 9K331, battery command post 9С737М “Rangir-M”, transport-charging, transport and maintenance vehicles.

LAW "Tor-M1" uniquely are the best short-range complexes of the existing armed forces of Iran. But with high fire performance, a high probability of hitting a target, the ability to fight high-precision ammunition separated from carriers, high noise immunity and mobility, they still have a small range of damage and are unable to fight high-altitude targets. Which in turn makes it advisable to use them with long-range and high-altitude anti-aircraft systems.



The Iranians deployed Tor-M1 batteries around their most important facilities. Russian complexes are considered as the last line of air defense in the event that air attack weapons are not hit by medium and long-range anti-aircraft systems. In August, a number of news agencies published 2010 information that the Iranian Tor-M1 shot down the F-4 fighter aircraft of the Iranian Air Force in the Bushehr nuclear power plant after the aircraft invaded the area around the nuclear power plant for unknown reasons. The pilot and navigator successfully catapulted and survived.


LAW "Tor-M2E"


In an interview with Sergey Druzin, the deputy general director of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern on scientific and technical development, given at the end of 2013, information was announced on the delivery of Tor-M2E air defense systems to Iran with new, more effective air defense systems. It is not known how this information is true, since Tor-M2E has not been demonstrated in Iran. But in the past, at various exhibitions of weapons, the Almaz-Antey concern repeatedly presented the Tor-M2E variant, made on the Belarusian-made MZKT-6922 wheeled chassis and painted in desert camouflage. According to Western sources, 1200 9М331 missiles were supplied to Iran with the Torahs.

According to the Jane Defense Weekly, in 2008, 10 anti-aircraft missile-gun systems “Pantsir-S1” were supplied to Iran through Syria. Iran sponsored the Syrian Arab Republic in concluding a contract for the purchase of ZRPK in 2006 year. The contract provided for the supply of 50 "armor" at the cost of one combat vehicle $ 13 million.

ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" with a combined missile and artillery armament is able to effectively deal with the most modern means of air attack at a distance of 20 km and an altitude of 15 km. The complex’s combat vehicle has 12 ready-to-use anti-aircraft missiles and 1400 30-mm projectiles. Air targets are detected by a three-coordinate radar of a circular view (based on PAR), the decimeter range with a range of work on large targets at medium altitudes up to 80 km. Targets with 2 m² EPR can be detected at a distance of 32-36 km. For tracking, a dual-band radar (mm + cm) is used, which ensures the operation of the complex for a wide class of targets. The millimeter-wave radar provides detection and destruction of targets with 0,1 square-wave EPR at a distance of up to 20 km. Capturing a target with an 2 EPR m² is possible at a distance of 30 km. The fire control system also includes an optoelectronic station capable of detecting and tracking airborne targets, as well as targeting missiles using an optical camera and a heat finder. The use of two independent means of guidance - radar and ECO - allows the capture and tracking of four targets simultaneously.


Syrian "Pantsir-С1"


According to Western estimates, taking into account the supply of additional missiles, automated control systems, simulators and spare parts, the transaction amount was approximately $ 1 billion. Although all relevant directories relating to the state of the air defense of the Islamic Republic indicate the presence of Pankir-С1 in this country, in Iran itself This complex was not openly demonstrated.

In addition to short-range mobile complexes of own and foreign production, there are a considerable number of various types of MANPADS in the Iranian armed forces. According to observers, the outdated portable Strela-2M and the Chinese HN-5A are no longer used. However, the Strela-3 MANUAL and the Chinese QW-1 \ 1M are still in service (2006 units were supplied before the 1100 of the year).


Iranian soldier with Strela-3 MANPADS


At the end of 80, Iran provided China with substantial assistance in creating modern MANPADS, buying from the Afghan Mujahideen a significant number of faulty FIM-92 Stinger. American complexes, delivered to the rebels to fight Soviet aircraft, after some time became unusable due to the failure of the batteries. Part of the acquired in the form of a faulty "second-hand" MANPADS, the Iranians reanimated and put into service (approximately 50 units), and a smaller part was sent to the PRC for study. After that, the Americans, who received information from their Afghan informants, caught on and began to actively redeem the remaining faulty Stingers. But it was already late, the American MANPADS proved to be put into service in Iran and became a source of inspiration for Chinese designers. Soviet Igla-1 MANPADS were captured by UNITA militants during the fighting in Angola and transferred to Zaire, where, in turn, they were sold to the PRC. As a result, QW-1992 - a conglomerate of the Russian "Needles-1" and the American "Stinger" was created in 1 in China. An improved version of the QW-1M has an improved sight and a rocket with the best aerodynamics. The QW-11 portable complex missile differs from the QW-1M with a more advanced homing head and the presence of a non-contact fuse, which makes it possible to fire targets flying at extremely low altitudes. According to some reports, Iran may have launched production of more modern portable Chinese QW-18 complexes, but the Iranians have no comment on this. The missile used in the QW-18 is equipped with a new two-spectral noise-suppressing seeker. Chinese QW-11 and QW-18 MANPADS are very similar in appearance, and it is difficult to distinguish them without detailed study.


Iranian soldier with Misagh-2 MANPADS


Production of Misagh-1 and Misagh-2 MANPADS was launched in Iran under a license obtained from the PRC. But what modifications of the Chinese complexes served as prototypes is not precisely known. According to its characteristics, Iranian Misagh-1 MANPADS fully comply with modern requirements. The sloping distance to the 500 target is 5000 m, and the XnUMX altitude reach is 30 m. The missile maximum speed is 4000 m / s. Weight of MANPADS - 600 kg. Mass of missiles - 16,9 kg. Mass of high-explosive fragmentation warhead - 10,7 kg.



In February 2017, Iranian news Irinn Channel announced the start of serial production of the new Misagh-3 MANPADS. Judging by the appearance, this is a further development of the early models of the Misagh family.



Apparently, supplies of Russian portable Igla complexes or their components were also delivered to Iran. During military parades in Tehran, coupled units placed on the chassis of off-road vehicles were repeatedly demonstrated. Outwardly, these “Sparky” MANPADS very strongly resemble the Russian Dzhigit reference-launcher. There can be more than 3500 MANPADS of various types in Iran.

At military parades regularly held in the Iranian capital, MANPADS on motorcycles and quads are constantly demonstrated. It is believed that this increases the mobility of portable complexes and allows you to quickly transfer shooters to threatened areas. However, driving over rough terrain with a 17 kg tube on the shoulder is from the field of circus tricks. What looks spectacular in a parade is often irrelevant to reality.

Iran remains one of the few countries where a significant amount of anti-aircraft artillery, including large caliber, is in service. Moreover, in the Islamic Republic, active work is still underway to create new types of anti-aircraft artillery systems of various types, which, apparently, is intended to compensate for the lack of modern anti-aircraft missile systems. As is known from the experience of local wars, anti-aircraft guns with massive use can create many problems even for aviation of a more technologically advanced adversary, since advanced electronic systems are not required for firing fire. In addition, air attack weapons that break through air defense systems at low altitudes are highly vulnerable to rapid-fire small-caliber anti-aircraft guns. In this case, in the event of preservation of the efficiency of the control system of the air defense units, a combination of the MPA and the air defense system can be very effective.

In the 2009, the automatic 100 mm Saeer anti-aircraft gun was demonstrated for the first time. This weapon, created on the basis of the Soviet post-war anti-aircraft gun KS-19, is induced and controlled centrally from the battery command post. Tools equipped with electric power tracking drives and an automatic charging system connected with an optoelectronic control system fire without the participation of personnel. With a range of 21 km air targets and 15 km altitude reachability, an anti-aircraft four-gun battery can launch 60 100-mm projectiles per minute on an XNUMX enemy.


100-mm anti-aircraft gun Saeer


The introduction of "deserted technology" allows you to avoid losses among the calculations in the event that the enemy strikes the anti-aircraft battery during firing. Reduced cannon servants are needed only during the reloading of ammunition and the deployment or coagulation of the battery.



The gun shop has 7 shells ready for firing. Installing a remote fuse when shooting automatically. For an anti-aircraft gun of this caliber it would be advisable to create a projectile with a radar fuse, but it is not known whether such projectiles are part of the Iranian anti-aircraft guns. The official transfer of the first batch of Saeer 100-mm anti-aircraft guns to the troops took place in 2011 year. It is not clear whether the case was limited to an experienced party or a mass production of guns was established.



The KS-19 anti-aircraft gun, adopted by the USSR in 1949, is considered hopelessly outdated and the modernization attempt made in Iran is unlikely to be able to breathe new life into this artillery system. Modern anti-aircraft missile systems with similar indicators in range and altitude have a much higher probability of being hit, much more mobile, mask themselves better on the ground and require fewer calculations.


Iranian 57-mm anti-aircraft guns fire on aerial targets during 2009 exercises

Since 60-s of the last century, 57-mm anti-aircraft guns С-60 and ЗСУ-57-2 were in service with Iran. According to some reports, in the 57-mm towed anti-aircraft guns, the outdated fire control system was replaced by Iranian-made Skyguard OMS with an updated optical-electronic search and tracking system.



At the same time, in the last decade, the obsolete ZSU-57-2 are no longer shown at exercises and parades. Most likely, these self-propelled guns were transferred “for storage” or written off, due to their obsolescence and physical deterioration. In modern conditions, the effectiveness of the 57-mm sparks mounted on tank the chassis is more than doubtful due to the lack of a modern aiming system and a low practical rate of fire.


Zsu bachmann


Nevertheless, in 2016, the Iranians demonstrated a Bachmann ZSU with two 57-mm guns on the KrAZ-6322 chassis. Most likely, this anti-aircraft gun is integrated with the Skyguard LMS, since otherwise there is no point in it, due to the low probability of hitting a rapidly moving target when manually installing sights.


35-mm Samavat memory


The most common and effective anti-aircraft artillery system is the 35-mm Oerlikon GDF-001 and its local version, known as Samavat. These settings completely replaced 37-mm 61-K and 40-mm Bofors L60. At the beginning of the 21 century, the Iranians not only upgraded the Swiss-made anti-aircraft machine, but also created a new optoelectronic search and tracking system based on the Skyguard JMA.



Due to the presence of electric servo drives 35-mm anti-aircraft guns can be aimed at the target remotely according to data from the fire control system. Each gun’s ammunition contains 112 projectiles ready to fire. The rate of fire of the paired anti-aircraft machine is 1100 rds / min., Which is a very good indicator for this caliber. The effective slant range for aerial targets is 4000 meters. The weight of the memory Samavat - 6,4 tons.

The number of 35-mm MZA in Iran is estimated at 1000 units, with about a third of the anti-aircraft installations deployed in fixed positions around strategic facilities. In the 2016 year, the 35-mm anti-aircraft guns opened fire twice on remote-controlled quadcopters approaching restricted areas.

Compared to the 35-mm MZA, the ZU-23 has more modest characteristics, but at the same time, the 23-mm paired anti-aircraft gun is much more compact, easier and cheaper. The ZU-23 installation can no longer be considered as a modern means of hitting air targets, but good performance and relatively low weight make 23-mm “zushku” in demand until now. An installation weighing tons of 0,95 is capable of hitting air targets at a distance of up to 2,5 km. Rate of fire to 1600 rds / min.



Due to the absence of a centralized control system in the anti-aircraft battery, the defeat of modern high-speed targets is possible only with barrage fire with a probability of 0,01 per gun. At the same time, in the Iranian armed forces, the ZU-23 is regarded as an effective means of fire support for land units and is widely installed on various wheeled and tracked chassis.

To improve the efficiency of 23-mm installations in Iran, a program of their modernization was launched. The increase in combat effectiveness was supposed to be carried out in two directions: an increase in the rate of fire and the introduction of a centralized SMS in the battery and guidance drives. In the Iranian media at the end of 90-x, frames were published that were taken during tests of “automated” ZU-23, remotely controlled without participation of calculations by a single guidance equipment. However, this development has not progressed further.


Mesbah-1


An attempt to increase the density of fire led to the creation of the monstrous eight-barreled installation Mesbah-1 on the carriage of the 35-mm Samavat anti-aircraft gun. Due to this, the possibility of aiming at the target without the participation of the calculation. In one second, the installation launches more 100 shells. Earlier, at the military parade, a six-barreled Mesbah storage unit was shown on a 57-mm C-60 artillery cart.



The Mesbah-1 anti-aircraft gun was first introduced at 2010 at the Iranian military-industrial complex. On Iranian television, the ZSU was also shown on the basis of a three-axle off-road truck, but there is no information about the adoption of the Mesbah-1.


23-mm memory Asefeh


The other direction was the creation of the triple-barreled 23-mm Asefeh anti-aircraft system with a rotating block of barrels and a rate of fire of 900 rds / min But the rest of the characteristics and prospects of this weapons Significantly unknown. Judging by the available images, the weapon, made according to the Gatling scheme, is mounted on a self-propelled chassis and can be induced both in manual and automatic mode.

In Iran, several dozens of Shilka ZSU-23-4 are still in operation as part of the mechanized units. Part of the Iranian "Shilok" was repaired and upgraded at Iranian enterprises, after which they received the designation Soheil.



Replaced were: auxiliary power plant, radar equipment, information display screens and sights. The night thermal imaging channel was added to the sighting equipment, and two launch tubes for MANPADS appeared on the right side of the tower.

Until recently, the Iranian enterprise Individual Combat Industries Group under the designation MGD produced a 12,7-mm heavy machine gun DShKM. Currently, it is replaced in the production of a licensed copy of the Chinese W-85.


12,7-mm machine gun W-85 Iranian production


MGD and W-85 large-caliber machine guns mounted on all-terrain light vehicles are used as a mobile air defense system along with MANPADS. However, the practical rate of fire of machine guns is relatively low, which reduces the likelihood of hitting the target. To correct this deficiency, using the MGD, four and eight-barrel versions of anti-aircraft guns were created. The total rate of fire of eight machine guns DShKM is 4800 rds / min. The range of destruction of air targets - 2400 meters. A big disadvantage of multi-barrel installations is long and baggy recharging. Given the fact that the 12,7-mm machine guns are powered from boxes of 50 cartridges, they last for a few seconds of intense fire.



12,7-mm multi-barreled installations are intended to be replaced in the troops 14,5-mm ZPU-4. During the Iran-Iraq war, ZPU, in which Vladimirov's large-caliber machine guns are used, were captured in significant quantities as trophies. Perhaps a certain amount of ZPU-2 and ZPU-4 was obtained from Syria, the PRC or the DPRK. Since the production of 14,5-mm ammunition for this weapon is not conducted in the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the machine guns themselves are very worn out, they are being removed from service.


12,7-mm LSD Nasir


A much more high-tech and compact weapon is the 12,7-mm six-barreled Mukharam machine gun. It was first shown in 2014. According to Iranian media, this weapon is capable of making 30 shots per second. On the basis of the machine gun Mukharam created a remote-controlled 12,7-mm ZPU Nasir. The new anti-aircraft machine-gun unit is equipped with an optoelectronic aiming-search module and can be installed on different chassis or act independently on the field position. In this case, an electrically operated weapon is mounted on a tripod and connected to a remote control cable.

As can be seen, from all of the above, in the Islamic Republic, a great deal of attention is paid to the protection of ground forces units from air strikes. The number of developed anti-aircraft installations simply rolls over. Another issue is that a significant part of the Iranian air defense systems is based on the samples of a foreign production of the old-time 40-50 and cannot be considered modern. Simultaneously with the purchase of high-tech missile systems in Iran and Russia, Iran is saturating the troops with weapons of its own design, albeit not as effective, but at the same time massive and inexpensive to manufacture. Also noteworthy is the very high degree of readiness of the Iranian air defense units. Constant combat duty is carried not only by long-range anti-aircraft systems, but also short-range air defense systems and calculations of anti-aircraft guns.

To be continued ...

Based on:
http://defense-update.com/products/t/tor.htm
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/irgc-unveils-fateh-assault-rifle-asefeh-23mm-gatling
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=177315
https://sinodefence.com/army/surfacetoairmissile/qianwei1.asp
http://www.russiadefence.net/t4940p150-iran-air-defense-systems
http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.ru/2013/05/iran-test-fires-herz-9-short-range.html
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-air-defense-systems.326173/page-25
http://theiranproject.com/blog/2012/11/13/iran-unveils-new-missile-systems-on-second-day-of-drills/
https://vpk.name/news/2637_rossiya_polnostyu_zavershila_vyipolnenie_kontrakta_na_postavku_v_iran_zrk_torm1.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071018002847/http://janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw070522_1_n.shtml
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  1. +2
    23 May 2017 15: 36
    Sergei! Thank. Interesting. No comments.
    1. +3
      23 May 2017 15: 45
      Quote: Amurets
      Sergei! Thank. Interesting. No comments.

      Nikolay, well, damn it’s not interesting, at least criticize a little!
      1. +2
        23 May 2017 16: 51
        Quote: Bongo
        Well, damn it is not interesting, at least criticize
        indeed, sheer delights (for example mine laughing ) how long to!
        I apologize for boring winked
        electronically controlled beam scanning phased array
        A HEADLIGHT with a mechanical beam control, I can hardly imagine what was meant, Sergey?
        1. +4
          23 May 2017 16: 55
          Quote: A1845
          A HEADLIGHT with a mechanical beam control, I can hardly imagine what was meant, Sergey?

          Yes, "butter", but not everyone understands how it works. Thank you for your comment! hi
          1. +2
            23 May 2017 17: 05
            Quote: Bongo
            but not everyone understands how it works
            I didn’t think about that ..
          2. +2
            26 May 2017 00: 04
            Quote: Bongo

            3
            Bongo May 23, 2017 16:55 ↑
            Quote: A1845
            A HEADLIGHT with a mechanical beam control, I can hardly imagine what was meant, Sergey?
            Yes, "butter", but not everyone understands how it works. Thank you for your comment!

            Sergey, you can conditionally imagine that it works like old automatic telephone exchanges, on step seekers. Here you have a mechanical scan, although the old PBX is also hard to imagine how it works.
      2. +2
        23 May 2017 16: 56
        Quote: Bongo
        Nikolay, well, damn it’s not interesting, at least criticize

        There’s nothing to criticize, but about MZA correctly, at low altitudes, there is no replacement for it. Well, I wonder how the Persians from KS-19 made an automatic machine.
        In general, the detailed comment did not go with me, the Internet turned off twice, I do not understand the reason.
        1. +3
          23 May 2017 16: 59
          Quote: Amurets
          There is nothing to criticize

          There are always disadvantages!
          Quote: Amurets
          but about MZA correctly, at low altitudes, there is no replacement for it.

          And probably will not.
          Quote: Amurets
          Well, I wonder how the Persians from KS-19 made the machine.

          In fact, initially it was a semiautomatic device. In principle, nothing particularly complicated, the British also did this on their later 94-mm guns.
          1. +2
            23 May 2017 23: 28
            Quote: Bongo
            In fact, initially it was a semiautomatic device.

            Well, that KS-19 was originally a semiautomatic device, I know. In Khurba, next to our division, 37mm and 100mm anti-aircraft batteries were mothballed. That is where "partisans" who were called up for retraining, studied almost, constantly. Near our dining room, on the site, there was a DRE and one or two guns deployed, I do not remember exactly. So we saw their training, but whether they fired or not, I don’t know, at least there were no firing in Khurba.
      3. +3
        23 May 2017 17: 35
        Quote: Bongo
        Well, damn it is not interesting, at least a little criticize!

        I really wanted to find fault, but nothing happened recourse
        As the author collected Old about this not the most open country (with oriental tricks), only I wonder hi
        In addition to analyzing the current state of Iran’s air defense, I would like to see the author’s personal opinion on how to maximize the effectiveness of Iran’s defense capabilities, taking into account the country's budget and the difficult geopolitical situation around Iran. Thank.
        1. +4
          24 May 2017 02: 38
          Quote: KKND
          I really wanted to complain, but nothing happened recourse

          Nothing, the next time such an opportunity will be presented. wink
          Quote: KKND
          As the author has collected Old about this not the most open country (with oriental tricks), only I wonder hi

          In fact, there were no special problems with the collection of information, Iran very much likes to advertise its achievements and this is well covered on Western resources. Another question is that not everything is reliable and there is a lot of confusion. Some samples are presented under different designations. As for a number of points, such as the location of stationary positions of air defense systems and radar and foreign supplies, then I had to dig deeper. But again, everything is within the framework of "open sources."
          Quote: KKND
          In addition to analyzing the current state of Iran’s air defense, I would like to see the author’s personal opinion on how to maximize the effectiveness of Iran’s defense capabilities, taking into account the country's budget and the difficult geopolitical situation around Iran. Thank.

          I will try to make such an analysis in the final part. hi
          1. 0
            24 May 2017 07: 25
            That is, you are not an employee of the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense?
            1. +3
              24 May 2017 08: 22
              Quote: Zaurbek
              That is, you are not an employee of the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense?

              "Employees" in the "organs", and in the Air Force and Air Defense, military or civilian civil servants. I have Russian citizenship, why is it interesting that you decided that I am a Persian ?.
              1. +2
                24 May 2017 18: 26
                Well, you understand well the organization of their air defense. hi Closed country.
                1. +2
                  25 May 2017 03: 55
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Well, you understand well the organization of their air defense. hi Closed country.

                  Thanks for the compliment! But taking into account the fact that there were publications about air defense of North America, European countries of NATO, Sweden, Syria, the Air Force and air defense of Japan and Saudi Arabia, it turns out that I am a "citizen of the world"? smile However, I can only get my passport 5 years after retirement.
  2. +3
    23 May 2017 16: 07
    Thanks for the stuff!
    I have a dilettante question. Adjustable shells have been created for large-caliber guns. Are there any such (homing or adjustable) for anti-aircraft guns? Or is the game not worth the candle?
    1. +4
      23 May 2017 16: 18
      Quote: dzvero
      Thanks for the stuff!

      hi
      Quote: dzvero
      I have a dilettante question. Adjustable shells have been created for large-caliber guns. Are there any such (homing or adjustable) for anti-aircraft guns? Or is the game not worth the candle?

      The question is normal and quite logical! But compare the speed of the adjusted mines or guided howitzer shells and projectiles fired at an air target. Aerodynamic surfaces for controlling an anti-aircraft shell are of little use, and the use of large-caliber anti-aircraft guns does not make sense now, SAMs solve these problems much more successfully. It is justifiable to create 57-76-mm-caliber projectile-correctable projectiles using gas rudders in combination with radar fuses. The high rate of fire of anti-aircraft guns in combination with modern achievements in the field of guided projectiles is quite capable of ensuring an acceptable probability of destruction at a distance of up to 10 km.
      1. 0
        25 May 2017 09: 49
        I think UAVs are cheaper to shoot from anti-aircraft guns (approximately 76 mm)
        with correctable shells. And the anti-aircraft gun will be guided by the radar.
        The main installation cost will have to be on the radar-control system.
        And the price of the projectile will increase once in 10.
        But it will still be much cheaper than a missile shot.
        1. +2
          25 May 2017 10: 25
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I think UAVs are cheaper to shoot from anti-aircraft guns (approximately 76 mm)
          with correctable shells. And the anti-aircraft gun will be guided by the radar.
          The main installation cost will have to be on the radar-control system.
          And the price of the projectile will increase once in 10.
          But it will still be much cheaper than a missile shot.

          The price of the projectile will increase 1000 times. Fighting drones is a fairly simple task. With a launch range within direct line of sight, MANPADS, a simple mobile complex with a radio command or laser-guided missile launcher will be cheaper than an artillery installation with a control system and guided missiles.
          1. 0
            25 May 2017 10: 36
            "The fight with drones is a fairly simple task" ////

            Not at all.
            1) MANPADS is limited in height - a scout taking pictures from 5 km is unattainable for him.
            MANPADS operating on heat are useless.
            2) Immediately have to go to larger and more expensive missiles.
            But they also have problems. UAVs do with "stealth". Not every radar can
            confidently direct missiles at them, and not every GOS missile can confidently capture it.
            And those who can very, very expensive.
            3) And we come to huge missiles like Patriot. He will destroy, but this is from a cannon by a sparrow. Therefore, there is currently no effective and relatively cheap means of struggle. They are looking for him.
          2. 0
            25 May 2017 10: 52
            for bongo:
            Imagine the situation: you are the air defense commander of a large air force base.
            We noticed that 5 drones attack the base at night at an altitude of 20 km.
            You don’t know what they are: drums, radar destroyers, scouts
            or just false targets.
            What to do?
            MANPADS and anti-aircraft guns are useless. Start firing rockets from the Shell.
            The Carapace radar is weak: half of the missiles are into milk.
            Start firing Beeches. Shot a kit.
            And the adversary only needs this. Under the noise-tararam fly
            some donkeys F-16 and level the base with the ground.
            And DO NOT start shooting down drones: they will be accurately planted in each radar
            on ma-a-honky missile ... and see the paragraph about donkeys F-16 sad .
            Therefore, against a UAV, you need some special tool.
            1. +3
              25 May 2017 11: 57
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Imagine the situation: you are the air defense commander of a large air force base

              Such a situation is possible only with "third" countries. And the matter is not only in nuclear weapons and other "big clubs". Russian MANPADS (like the Stingers) are quite capable of fighting drones, and I’m sorry I don’t believe that a remote control UAV system will work over our country. At the same time, I’m not at all a “patriot”, I just have an idea about the capabilities of our air defense , which by the way significantly decreased compared with the times of the USSR.
              And why did you decide that the "Shell-S1" has a weak radar? For such a system, it is quite at the level + day and night OLS channel. So that "please do not bend the stick." No.
              1. 0
                25 May 2017 16: 45
                We’re talking about some different weapons.
                Neither Stinger nor Arrow elementarily reach the UAV flying on the 5 km.
                Forget about MANPADS. They are against low-flying targets.
                So with the Shell. It was developed for the purposes of 1 and more than xNUMX EPR.
                Modern drones are much more "stealth."
                So don’t be so sure. In Israel, I had to finish and remake the Patriots software so that they shot down high-altitude UAVs.
                1. +3
                  26 May 2017 01: 25
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  We’re talking about some different weapons.
                  Neither Stinger nor Arrow elementarily reach the UAV flying on the 5 km.

                  Take an interest in what heights "Predators" and "Reapers" operate in a real situation.
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  So with the Shell. It was developed for the purposes of 1 and more than xNUMX EPR.
                  Modern drones are much more "stealth."

                  These devices do not represent any problems for the modernized "Shell". As for the heavy UAVs of the "Global Hawk" class, then of course we need Buk and higher complexes. But heavy drones are few in number.
                  1. 0
                    27 May 2017 01: 12
                    "Take an interest in what heights in a real situation" Predators "and" Reapers "////

                    For stationary targets - precision bombs with 12 km. And the shell will not reach, not only Arrows. Remains Beech and C-300.
                    1. +2
                      27 May 2017 03: 14
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      For stationary targets - precision bombs with 12 km. And the shell will not reach, not only Arrows. Remains Beech and C-300.

                      I wrote in "real setting". Also ask what kind of combat load the Predator can raise to an altitude of 12 km. And you, Alex, seem to have read this publication inattentively, at least as far as the Pantsir is concerned. hi
                      1. +1
                        27 May 2017 21: 44
                        I am not trying to argue with you ... But it seems that the air defense is ready, as they say, for the "last war". Those. to war with enemy aircraft. And you have to fight with a variety of unmanned "smart" ammunition and vehicles. Today, for example, there was news that was hardly noticed: the program confidently beat the world champion in Go.
                        The news is completely revolutionary, from the cycle of "this does not happen."
                        In Go, as you know, the number of options per move exceeds the number of atoms in the universe. No supercomps will pull. But the program recorded in the usual P-C won. What is your attitude to air defense? And the fact that in any lousy drone you can score such an intuitive, self-learning software that will allow a group of devices to deceive and endure the most powerful air defense. Without any operators, note.
            2. 0
              28 May 2017 18: 34
              Dear, why there is no new "Willow" MANPADS, rap and of course disguise and false positions
  3. 0
    23 May 2017 16: 46
    12,7 mm Gatling is a powerful argument rather for firing at ground targets or near-field air defense on ships. Against the Mi-24 and Su-25, 12,7mm was considered ineffective back in the 80s. A 2x57mm installation on KRAZ could be sent to friendly Syria ..
    1. +4
      23 May 2017 16: 52
      Quote: Zaurbek
      12,7 mm Gatling is a powerful argument rather for firing at ground targets or near-field air defense on ships.

      When firing at ground targets, this rate of fire is excessive, and the system itself for use in the field is too complicated and expensive. In the air defense of ships, even the 20-mm "Volcano" is recognized as not powerful enough.
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Roti Mi-24 and Su-25 12,7mm in 80 was not recognized as effective.

      About Mi-24 you got excited. No. For DShK, this machine is vulnerable.
      Quote: Zaurbek
      And the 2x57mm installations on KRAZ could also be sent to friendly Syria ..

      For what? what
      1. +3
        23 May 2017 17: 04
        By the way, it’s a shame for the KPVT, in Vietnam they coolly landed American helicopters
        1. +1
          23 May 2017 17: 09
          23mm will land better ...
        2. +3
          23 May 2017 17: 10
          Quote: A1845
          By the way, it’s a shame for the KPVT, in Vietnam they coolly landed American helicopters

          And for low-altitude attack aircraft, the 14,5-mm is not a gift. By the way, I caught ZPU-4 and even managed to shoot with the DShK.
          As for Iran, it has so historically turned out that these machine guns were not produced there, and received a license for the DShKM from the USSR in the 70.
          1. 0
            23 May 2017 17: 15
            if you work on 14,5mm bullets, then this cartridge for light armored vehicles is not even a gift. As far as I remember, his sleeve is used in a 23mm shell?
            1. +2
              24 May 2017 00: 00
              Quote: Zaurbek
              if you work on 14,5mm bullets, then this cartridge for light armored vehicles is not even a gift.
              Link to cartridges for PTR and CPV.
              http://bratishka.ru/archiv/2012/06/2012_6_7.php
              During the Second World War, the armor-piercers were very valued at 14,5 mm carbide cartridges. There were few of them, but they were.
              "For the fullest realization of the cartridge’s potential for armor penetration, in 1941, in addition to the conventional one, the BS-41 special armor-piercing incendiary bullet was adopted, which has a tungsten carbide carbide (metal-ceramic) armor-piercing core. Such a core is much harder and heavier than the core made of The BS-41 bullet has twice the penetration of a conventional B-32 armor-piercing incendiary bullet, piercing a 30-mm armor plate from a distance of 500 m normal. "http://www.milrus.com/weapons/kpvt.shtm
              l
              1. +2
                24 May 2017 09: 49
                Germans also made excellent tally shells from tungsten carbide, one problem is where it was taken in such quantities ..
                1. +2
                  24 May 2017 12: 24
                  Quote: A1845
                  Germans also made excellent tally shells from tungsten carbide, one problem is where it was taken in such quantities ..

                  I agree with you. Tungsten, molybdenum, cobalt, were required in huge quantities, not only for the production of cores for sub-caliber shells but also for the production of cutting tools: cutters, milling cutters.
      2. +1
        23 May 2017 17: 06
        DShK in Afghanistan were effective in mountainous areas about shelling peacefully flying Mi-24. When defending an object, I don’t think that there will be a big effect (Even when creating the Shilka I bet on a 4x23mm gun) And the KRAZ installations are well suited as a mobile art installation (not anti-aircraft guns)
        1. +5
          23 May 2017 17: 23
          Quote: Zaurbek
          DShK in Afghanistan were effective in mountainous areas about shelling peacefully flying Mi-24.

          Peacefully flying combat helicopters? wassat
          Quote: Zaurbek
          When protecting an object, I don’t think that there will be a big effect

          You read the memories of our aviators about the storming of the Pangersky Gorge.
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Even when creating the "Shilka" the bet was placed on the 4X23mm gun
          And you can "Shilka" or at least ZU-23 with you in the mountains to take or raise to the roof of the building? No. Why compare the incomparable ... and try to cram the uncanny. Not all aircraft are covered with armor. And even those that are covered have vulnerabilities.
          Quote: Zaurbek
          And KRAZ installations are well suited as a mobile art installation (not anti-aircraft guns)

          Until the first DShK ...
          Quote: Zaurbek
          On this site a year ago, a friend with foam proved the superiority of the 20mm Falanks over our 30mmx6 machines, by the way

          Do not read... request But there are enough fools everywhere, and Military Review is no exception in this regard. However, the AK-630 is also not without flaws.
          1. 0
            23 May 2017 20: 33
            It’s enough for the war in the Pansher Gorge, but not in the Vietnam conflict. A ZU-23 and single-barrel happens. They wrote about Afghanistan that the most dangerous were PGI installations and 20mm erlikons.
          2. +2
            24 May 2017 09: 51
            Quote: Bongo
            Peacefully flying combat helicopters?
            a joke in Soviet times was about the TASS statement about the "peacefully plowing Soviet tractor", which destroyed the violators of the USSR state border in response winked
        2. +3
          23 May 2017 17: 43
          Quote: Zaurbek
          And KRAZ installations are well suited as a mobile art installation (not anti-aircraft guns)

          Zaurbek less play computer games, the technology does not have lives that can be removed by rapid-fire and powerful fire.
          1. +1
            23 May 2017 20: 30
            And what to play, look at shots from Syria ... it’s better to use it in the factory version than in the artisan one.
      3. 0
        23 May 2017 17: 08
        On this site a year ago, a friend with foam proved the superiority of the 20mm Falanks over our 30mmx6 machines, by the way wink
    2. +4
      23 May 2017 17: 34
      12,7 mm gatling - a powerful argument rather for shooting at ground targets

      I recalled the GUV - 8700

      But the pilots of the turntables didn’t really like him, since there weren’t any goals for him, and he weighed 450 kg.
      1. +3
        23 May 2017 20: 36
        They write that capricious machine guns ... often jammed. The main problem of machine guns in helicopter and anti-aircraft performance is that they are fired by 14,5-23-30mm automatic cannons in range.
  4. 0
    23 May 2017 17: 21
    work brothers!
  5. +3
    23 May 2017 17: 44
    An interesting cycle. Thank.
    Py.Sy. I remember reading an alternative to Afanasyev - Decay, Confrontation. And there they described a possible strike by the Israeli Air Force on Iran’s nuclear facilities, where due to the dense air defense, the task had almost no solution. As a result, in the book, the author described the blow through Azerbaijan, with which Israel agreed.
  6. 0
    24 May 2017 00: 39
    A large number of samples ... air defense systems ....
    Confirms the law ...
    Quantity ... does not always translate into quality ...
    In addition to imported Russian "Os", "Armor" ...
    And maybe ... delivered S-300 ....
    There is nothing to see ...
    1. +4
      24 May 2017 07: 28
      At least, people understand the importance of air defense and try to do something in difficult conditions for them.
  7. 52
    +3
    24 May 2017 16: 12
    Great, Sergey! And Mesbah-1 is just some kind of steampunk monster.
  8. mvg
    +4
    24 May 2017 19: 27
    Quote: Amurets
    Quote: Zaurbek
    if you work on 14,5mm bullets, then this cartridge for light armored vehicles is not even a gift.
    Link to cartridges for PTR and CPV.
    http://bratishka.ru/archiv/2012/06/2012_6_7.php
    During the Second World War, the armor-piercers were very valued at 14,5 mm carbide cartridges. There were few of them, but they were.
    "For the fullest realization of the cartridge’s potential for armor penetration, in 1941, in addition to the conventional one, the BS-41 special armor-piercing incendiary bullet was adopted, which has a tungsten carbide carbide (metal-ceramic) armor-piercing core. Such a core is much harder and heavier than the core made of The BS-41 bullet has twice the penetration of a conventional B-32 armor-piercing incendiary bullet, piercing a 30-mm armor plate from a distance of 500 m normal. "http://www.milrus.com/weapons/kpvt.shtm
    l

    For the B-32 - 22 mm at a distance of 500 meters. But already the 30-mm sheet did not beat even from a hundred meters. There were tests PTR Rukavishnikova in 1940
    BS-41 from PTRD and PTRS punched 35-40 mm at a distance of 100-150 meters.
    PS: I’m sorry, you’re lying all))) Imagine from 500 m, on the forehead, almost all Hans’s tanks are hit, with a gun))) (well, before the appearance of cats). Well, so you drew that the BS-41 is 60 mm from 500 m.
    1. +2
      25 May 2017 00: 44
      "During the years of the Second World War, the armor-piercers were very appreciated with 14,5 mm carbide round ammunition. There were few of them, but they were." This is my phrase in the commentary; see the rest from the links where I got this data from.
      "PS: I read with interest about Bushehr and the F-4 of the Iranian Air Force, have they really banged my own? Tin .."
      In the USSR, too, there were areas closed to aviation, where there was no difference "friend or foe." True, I do not remember that they shot down their planes, but there were cases of interception. This was not advertised and on the Internet about these cases you will not find data.
  9. mvg
    +4
    24 May 2017 19: 31
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: Zaurbek
    DShK in Afghanistan were effective in mountainous areas about shelling peacefully flying Mi-24.

    Peacefully flying combat helicopters? wassat
    Quote: Zaurbek
    When protecting an object, I don’t think that there will be a big effect

    You read the memories of our aviators about the storming of the Pangersky Gorge.
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Even when creating the "Shilka" the bet was placed on the 4X23mm gun
    And you can "Shilka" or at least ZU-23 with you in the mountains to take or raise to the roof of the building? No. Why compare the incomparable ... and try to cram the uncanny. Not all aircraft are covered with armor. And even those that are covered have vulnerabilities.
    Quote: Zaurbek
    And KRAZ installations are well suited as a mobile art installation (not anti-aircraft guns)

    Until the first DShK ...
    Quote: Zaurbek
    On this site a year ago, a friend with foam proved the superiority of the 20mm Falanks over our 30mmx6 machines, by the way

    Do not read... request But there are enough fools everywhere, and Military Review is no exception in this regard. However, the AK-630 is also not without flaws.

    In terms of accuracy, the Phalanx and the Gladiator will give a lot of AK-630 handicap points. And pofik that 30 mm is cooler than 20
    1. 0
      27 May 2017 21: 47
      Here is a comrade ...
  10. mvg
    +4
    24 May 2017 19: 38
    Persians have interesting logistics at such a “zoo”. Air defense of one day (week), then they get confused ... Monthly ammunition will not be transported from each anti-aircraft missile system or air defense system, so dozens of different types of air defense are more likely a disadvantage than a plus sign. It is necessary to somehow unify the types of anti-aircraft missiles and (or) shells. Otherwise, in case of a more or less protracted conflict - TROUBLE.
    PS: I read with interest about Bushehr and the F-4 of the Iranian Air Force, have they really "banged" theirs? Tin ... winked
    1. +3
      25 May 2017 04: 00
      Quote: mvg
      Persians have interesting logistics at such a “zoo”. Air defense of one day (week), then they get confused ...

      Well, in fact, we have the type of missiles in the air defense forces even in a variety of ways. It should be understood that stationary positions will be knocked out quite quickly, if they are known to me, then for “partners” this is even more not a secret. And the nomenclature of mobile military complexes in Iran is not so great. Anti-aircraft guns, in spite of their different types of ammunition, are unified.
      Quote: mvg
      PS: I read with interest about Bushehr and F-4 of the Iranian Air Force, have they really "banged" theirs? Tin ..

      So they write in many foreign sources. And this may well be, Iranian anti-aircraft gunners react very nervously to the invasion of the restricted areas. Recently, again, a quadrocopter of some foreign film crew was shot down.
  11. +1
    28 May 2017 16: 44
    Very interesting article thanks.