Shumim, brothers, shumim

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Listening to some presidential candidates, I'm just amazed. What they do not promise to the Russian voters, what radical reforms are waiting for the country in the event of their victory in the elections! Of course, latent questions arise with me, what is the majority of them, built into power for so many years, been doing? Why did they not show so vividly the pain for the country and the desire to change something in it for the better? But even without trying to find answers, I am surprised at their courage - promises must be kept. But it is not so easy to accomplish what was said in the populist passion, in the desire to please the voters, to attract their attention.

Here, for example, Sergei Mikhailovich Mironov, who has the support of three percent of Russians for the month of February, according to VTsIOM polls, promises to abolish parliamentary immunity, is going to return the transition to summer-winter time, to eliminate the USE. But since all this looks pale against the general background, it promises the main thing: having won, he will retire in a year and will appoint new elections for the head of state in 2014. That is because the low ratings bring to what! Elect at least a year, asks Mironov, and one day you will wake up in another country. Personally, in such a situation, I wouldn't even want to wake up.

But let's take Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. The tried and tested political fighter in the State Duma (rated according to VTsIOM 8 percent of support) continues to operate within the framework of the well-known slogan: “To all women for a peasant! Every man has a bottle of vodka! ”It remains only to wait until three years after his accession to the Kremlin he will fulfill his promise to solve the problem of housing and eliminate the shortage of kindergartens. And it will also increase the salary for everyone, but at the same time, it will limit it from 10 to 100 thousand rubles. Well done, Zhirinovsky! In one fell swoop, he satisfied all Russian requests.

However, in such a situation, another applicant, Mikhail Prokhorov, did not have to fulfill his promise to build a personal theater for Zhirinovsky. By the way, Prokhorov (February 5 percent rating) looks fresher from his competitors. From him, even with humanity, some kind of breath, when he promised to marry in the event of his victory in the elections. Here is a man! I literally decided to sacrifice myself for the good of the country!

And what did Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov decide to donate? It's all very serious, according to the 10-percentage rating. And without sacrifice, of course, will not do, but not personal, Zyuganov. Here you will have to sacrifice others as a result of the introduction of a progressive scale of taxes and the nationalization of the main sectors of the economy. Since no mechanisms for implementing such promises are proposed, it can be assumed that this will translate into reality. Well, the tax scale is understandable: its action, apparently, will begin immediately after the amount, defined as the cost of living or, at worst, a labor pension. With nationalization more difficult. It can be done in two ways. One - civilized, with the payment of compensation to the owners. But money is needed for it, and where can I get it, if only Gazprom’s budget is comparable to the country's budget? There is another way - the revolutionary, tested by the predecessors of Zyuganov in the communist party: "take and divide." So, of course, safer, simpler, more familiar, and money is not needed. And if laws are required, they can be written, it’s a simple matter. And the Constitution can be changed, if there is a need. And it will arise, of course, if you fulfill the promise - to personally head the government, to combine the posts of president and head of the cabinet for the transition period. Under the current Basic Law, nothing like this can be done. In accordance with the current Constitution (Art. 83), the President has the right to preside over meetings of the Government of the Russian Federation, no more. But, as they say in Russia, “if you can’t, but really want to, then you can.”

Thus, in Russia during the election campaign, aspirants can say whatever they want. And let them say, because neither the country nor they risk anything in this situation. The victory of the aforementioned applicants is at least doubtful. It means that they will not have to fulfill promises. Is that Mikhail Prokhorov, who threatened in case of loss to create a new party. We will wait for the execution.
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  1. denis29_82
    +10
    21 February 2012 08: 37
    Sound things can only be read in Putin's articles. The remaining candidates carry a blizzard. Yes, any fool can go to the podium and say that I say for all the good and against all the bad. Well, so are we. And then what?
    Zyuganov, so all his political career only shoves slogans, zero specifics.
    Zhirinovsky ... well, everything is clear to everyone here. The rest is generally just a background.
    1. +3
      21 February 2012 11: 49
      Denis 29 82 as I understand it, how many years and date of birth

      In this case, I do not answer you personally, I answer the unanimous opinion - only Putin ...
    2. +2
      21 February 2012 12: 45
      Dear! And what exactly did Putin suggest? His articles, if you read carefully, are not backed up by anything. Putin, in contrast to the same Zyuganov and Prokhorov, does not even have a program of action, and only the declarations spelled out in these articles are projections. All that he promises costs as much money as the state does not have and most importantly is not expected. All these articles are designed for a naive layman who believes in a brighter future and is pure populism. Firstly: there is no specificity of how he wants to do all this, what he writes about in these articles, and secondly: basically, what he writes about is plagiarism and is borrowed from Zyuganov. Mironov, Zhirinovsky, Prokhorov and the opposition. So that there is nothing sound in Putin’s articles, and don’t flatter yourself that what he writes about will be done. This is not in his interests and not in the interests of people. standing behind him.
      1. ytqnhfk
        +5
        21 February 2012 18: 14
        Yes, the foreman, although the 78th, but no analysis of the situation will help you! Can the question where lived in the years 94-96? and who were the parents working at this time? If you answer, I will continue the conversation with you; no, it will be better for your psyche!
      2. slas
        +3
        21 February 2012 20: 52
        Quote: starshina78
        Dear! And what exactly did Putin suggest? His articles, if you read carefully, are not backed up by anything. Putin, unlike the same Zyuganov and Prokhorov,

        It seems that Prokhorov was promised in a couple of years that the pro-army would get sick And you believe this program? Do not make me laugh laughing
        1. abyss 8
          +1
          21 February 2012 23: 40
          "It seems that Prokhorov promised to get a trade union in a couple of years. And you believe this program? Don't tell me" - and Ivanov promised GLONASS by 2008 and DIDN'T MAKE IT! what to do with him now? don't you laugh laughing
      3. abyss 8
        0
        21 February 2012 23: 38
        "And what exactly did Putin offer" - yes, he should not offer, but SHOW what he did in 12! years of his reign! that's all ... yes, go out, as in civilized countries, to direct television debates with all competitors and facts to confirm your position! since Russia has the most democratic and open television in the world - only ONLINE IN DISCUSSION WITH OPPONENTS, the voter will try to see the correctness of this or that candidate! the article is flawed: Putin is a fine fellow, the rest of the candidates are none ... so why bother with elections ??? crown for life and that's it! business then lol there are competitors in all civilized countries, but not in Russia ... doesn’t it seem very strange to you ..
  2. +1
    21 February 2012 08: 39
    What pinned them ...
  3. 916-th
    +14
    21 February 2012 08: 44
    Unless Mikhail Prokhorov, who threatened to create a new party in case of loss.

    The name is already ready: The Elite Party of the Oligarchs of Russia.
    Slogan: Russian oligarchs all over the world, get to the heap!
    Membership fees: $ 1 million monthly
  4. Dimitrxnumx
    +9
    21 February 2012 08: 48
    If you listen to the election slogans, then we have to live in communism for a long time, but in reality it turns out like in the joke "Vote, don't vote, you will get ... nothing anyway." It's hard to believe candidates. It is necessary to restore the middle class, to raise industry and agriculture, and to the modern level, and a lot of things ... and we have almost only would-be managers in the country. IHMO all these slogans without a strong core of the middle class are just slogans ...
  5. Sergh
    +15
    21 February 2012 08: 50
    Here Nikiforov, modestly, but with taste.
    I also listened to these songs, sometimes even shook from such deosity. But the choice for today is more and more for me remains for small. Only Volodya was left to pick up the baton and looking back and to the sides, but on the other it is now impossible to drag forward, yes, drag Russia by the ears. I don’t even be offended if he will growl and shout along the way forward, it can be seen in our democratic, unbridled practice, even more often and more loudly!
    So, come on, Mr. Putin, go ahead, don’t let us down, brother, you are also a Slav, and if necessary, we will always help, but just to be honest!
  6. Artur09-75
    +8
    21 February 2012 09: 00
    Quote: "Sergei Mikhailovich Mironov, who has, according to the polls of VTsIOM, the support of three percent of Russians, promises us the abolition of parliamentary immunity."
    What prevented him, being the head of the Federation Council, from passing a bill on this to the State Duma?
    Especially now, when he is at the State Duma, it is dangerous for him to make such speeches. He knows that he will not win, and the deputies, for his immunity, will tear him o..o into a British flag with Australian stars. After all, he is still 4 years old to be a "servant of the people".
    Mr. Prokhorov is still young, inexperienced, politics is not a business, wolves will be worse here. It will be too much and actively clever, how and what the authorities can do, can send an apprentice to Khodorkovsky. And if the well-being of the people increases instantly from his marriage, then he is probably the messiah.
    Without Vladimir Volfovich it would be very boring. Suppose we can find a bottle of vodka ourselves, and if he would provide a peasant to every woman, he would long ago become president.
    Zyuganov no longer knows what to promise, I have a feeling that he is more and more beginning to resemble Cerneko.
    But in general, as denis29_82 put it all of them are in the background, it is real to come to power with them, as before the moon with cancer. After all ... do not toss the bags.
  7. alseek
    +6
    21 February 2012 09: 02
    Yes, we have already agreed with everyone, Zhilinovsky’s donkey hits on TV, Prokhorov flickers on Bolotnaya, Zyuganov and Mironov are also campaigning, it is not clear where and with whom.
    They probably didn’t agree only with Yavlinsky, after which they decided not to take any risks at all, and put him away.
    Re-election campaign of V.V. Putin is in full swing, I personally only feel sorry for the money for this farce, it would be better to have a couple more hospitals built, and factories, than to buy cameras for the plots.
    I am personally for the re-election of Putin, why do we need a change?
    Every nation receives that government that deserves, we honestly deserve V.V.
    1. Brother Sarych
      +6
      21 February 2012 09: 37
      The last thought sounds extremely ambiguous ...
      Is it grace or God's punishment? laughing
      And Yavlinsky - who is this? He was nobody else in Gorbachev’s times. and since then it has only finally turned sour, which from the soul turns only from its appearance. when he still does not have time to open his mouth to express his valuable judgments ...
      Of that Yabloko, only Boldyrev remained similar to a person and, like. didn’t stain himself much ...
  8. +5
    21 February 2012 09: 02
    Putin will be seen by anyone, except for him not a single worthy candidate can be seen. I do not like V.V. but I will probably vote for him. The rest do not inspire confidence.
    1. +5
      21 February 2012 10: 08
      For Putin, of course, the program looks very promising, but it has the same one from year to year, it can be slightly modified .... he has been struggling with utility tariffs and corruption throughout his career, it has not become better, but quite the contrary. ... you can only hear about the improvement of the situation in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces
      1. 0
        21 February 2012 12: 38
        Quote: foxstrat89
        you can only hear about the improvement of the situation in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces


        Welcome here: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
        here and about power plants, about new hospitals, bridges, roads, about enterprises and agriculture. Not only about the army.
      2. abyss 8
        +1
        21 February 2012 23: 43
        "All his career he has been fighting utility tariffs and corruption," - ahah, Vladimir Vladimirovich has been fighting corruption all his life, and there are more and more flashing lights ... and the cars of officials are becoming more expensive .. and the villas are steeper and farther from Mother Russia .. and the accounts in foreign banks are getting fatter ... and the majors are getting bolder ... what about all this ?! lol
  9. +7
    21 February 2012 09: 08
    The author and what about Putin or what could not be said? It is a pity the line against all was canceled.
    1. +1
      21 February 2012 09: 10
      Tell me here, criticism has not bothered anyone yet!
      1. alseek
        +5
        21 February 2012 09: 34
        You can criticize when I’m sure that I myself would have done better, I’m not sure of it, Putin’s merit in stability is certainly, of course, high oil prices also helped, but everything has a flip side - closing all control levers to himself, V.V. puts the country on the brink of very high risk.
        We are not all eternal, anything can happen to a person, if V.V. it will leave us prematurely, such a struggle for power will begin that it will sweep the country to pieces.
        We need a full-fledged political system and a change of elites, for example, according to the American model - it is clear that there is no genuine democracy, and certain groups that nominate presidents have power in the country, but at least nothing will change with the departure of one, the country has a course, and they they will always be followed, and with the change of leader, the course usually changes as well. Volodya needs to prepare a normal receiver or remove his own batch of EdRO.
        1. Brother Sarych
          +3
          21 February 2012 10: 36
          You know, but I'm sure that I personally would have done much better, unless of course we talk about the very specific features of the work of a professional politician ...
          Excuse me, but I would have imprisoned him, first of all, to bring the workers of the state apparatus to the senses - that’s why no one will choose me, I have no other proposals for my potential voters except hard and hard work to restore the state ...
          1. -2
            21 February 2012 10: 48
            Have you ever managed anything to imagine that you can do better?
            1. Brother Sarych
              +3
              21 February 2012 10: 56
              Imagine - it happened, not on a particularly large scale, of course, but people in general were satisfied ...
              The main thing - at the moment I do not owe anything to anyone ...
              My personal needs are extremely limited ...
              It is still able to work for quite a long time and there are ideas on what and how to do ...
              1. -5
                21 February 2012 11: 24
                How small is the colleague? 100-1000 !?
                1. Brother Sarych
                  +2
                  21 February 2012 11: 41
                  Of course, in the lower border, but what's the point of discussing this?
                  Are you planning to support my candidacy? wink
                  The main thing is that I have principles, and the presence of those very principles was the reason for the inhibition of me precisely on that lower border ...
                  The back bent badly, plus a feeling of almost inborn squeamishness - the key to a not-so-successful career, although this is how to look ...
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2012 12: 57
                    Well, as you say, management is not always a pleasant thing, the manager himself.
                    1. +6
                      21 February 2012 13: 40
                      And what, Mr. "manager", are they being taught to be politicians somewhere? And what is this profession of "politician"? Not a single book on the professions mentions her. This means that one part of them are self-taught, and the other are impostors. And it remains to be seen which part is better or worse. I am also a manager, only in my own business, for 11 years. I started with 16 thousand rubles. I wonder if Prokhorov is given 16 thousand and let him float freely? I agree that management is not always a pleasant thing, especially when you put your own money on the line and the standard of living of your own family depends on the result. Here is not something that seven times, but seventeen times you think. And what are the risks of the rulers and politicians of Russia? And nothing! Billions were donated there, billions were donated here - not a pity, not your own. Do we have the right to ask them? We have, but no one will answer us anything. So what kind of thing never feel sorry for? Only one: either she got it for nothing, or was stolen. What we are now seeing in the face of our Russia. And what about the candidates, then, seriously, there is no one to choose from. Putin is not a fool, and in 12 years he has not found or raised a candidate corresponding to his level. And this is even funny, because who in their right mind would raise a full-fledged competitor? And the rest of the candidates are "cardboard fools". There is no talk about them. So, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge.
                      1. -2
                        21 February 2012 14: 12
                        And what, Mr. "manager", are they being taught to be politicians somewhere? teach for your information
            2. abyss 8
              0
              21 February 2012 23: 47
              "Have you managed anything to imagine that you can do it better" is an interesting logic .. but what kind of team must be managed to become President? Reagan ruled who and what? and dozens of other outstanding Presidents ... but crown Putin for life and do not suffer ... otherwise spend money on elections ... why? lol
          2. ytqnhfk
            +1
            21 February 2012 18: 25
            They would have planted but not for long then quietly laid you down but forever! The rich also love caviar, and they strictly watch and strictly ask for it!
        2. -2
          21 February 2012 12: 40
          Quote: alseek
          but everything has a flip side - closing all the control levers on itself, V.V. puts the country on the brink of very high risk.

          And when in Russia it was not so? For centuries, power has always been personified. Therefore, even in the most Soviet times, we gravitated towards monarchism.
      2. +3
        21 February 2012 09: 40
        and a video can be used instead of words? I’ll say right away that I’m not against Putin, but the video is very popular .. just for information bully
        you wouldn’t get into shards ...

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tvMepzq_gxM
        1. 0
          21 February 2012 09: 54
          And how else to "push snow to the Eskimos".?. request
          Ento is not new, and everyone knows for a long time: remember even the bright future of the Communists ...
          And yet sometimes it is necessary to give hope. Hope is able to mobilize human resources and direct them in a favorable direction.

          I’ll also go to the cemetery .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxF4Uy6vVeM&feature=related
  10. Igor
    +3
    21 February 2012 09: 11
    Quote: alseek
    why do we need a change?


    If there is no change, then there will be a Russian rebellion, meaningless and merciless.
    1. alseek
      +6
      21 February 2012 09: 36
      While there is sausage and vodka in the refrigerator, there will be no senseless and merciless rebellion.
      In general, I am ironic, changes are needed - but first of all in our heads.
  11. 0
    21 February 2012 09: 17
    According to the article: I agree with the author. The list of examples for wider / more fun, of course, will be, but the essence is correct (regarding the harmfulness of the illuminated characters).

    And yet, where does Putin ??? The "curvature" of his opponents is not yet proof of his "directness". It may seem like a panacea against their background, but whether he really is is still a very big question.

    On the other hand, a proof of his benefactors almost constantly leads to a comparison of the country's parameters under him and (!) In the worst .... bad times (with the same 90s) (!!!). Although it is more objective to compare with the times generally recognized as normal. And it’s more logical, with the times generally recognized as good and excellent. Or compare with other countries in their best times (if anyone thinks that in Russian history there is one gloom).

    PS Zlyden.Zlo-nude Respect!
  12. +5
    21 February 2012 09: 25
    Igor“What is a rebellion? Under Yeltsin, it was necessary to rebel when most of the population was below the poverty line and ate bread with Rama margarine for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
    1. Igor
      +6
      21 February 2012 09: 35
      Quote: djsa1
      Under Yeltsin, it was necessary to rebel, when most of the population was below the poverty line, and ate bread and margarine Rama for breakfast, lunch and dinner.


      You tell this generation that the USSR first collapsed, and then voted for Yeltsin.
  13. Evil Tatar
    +13
    21 February 2012 09: 26
    Quote: djsa1
    They probably didn’t agree only with Yavlinsky, after which they decided not to take any risks at all, and put him away.

    No Yavlinsky? And this is good!
    I never perceived him as my own, Russian politician ... Eyes are cunning, lips are wet, voice with foreign intonations is not ours, not Russian. One of those with a second passport flies home to a second family on the route Moscow-Tel Aviv ...
    Economist? But what about the vessels under the initial conditions of the PSA for Sakhalin-1 and Sakhalin-2 ... Let's see which muzzles surround it, with constant passes to the US embassy?
    It’s disgusting to look at this vegetable base with apples, and even more so to listen ...
    1. Dimitrxnumx
      +3
      21 February 2012 11: 33
      Yavlinsky in my opinion a candidate from amers. And he created the party at their direction, in order to come to power in the 90s and rule us from the White House, as it is now in Georgia and was in Ukraine under Yushchenko. Although Yanukovych also seeks NATO ....
  14. +2
    21 February 2012 09: 27
    They say, speak, speak, and what they say themselves, apparently, do not always understand. Yesterday, Vladimir Volfovich issued another pearl, saying that as soon as he becomes president, conscripts will magically disappear from the army, and contract soldiers will take their place. Is that how it is? Will reservists be caught, like conscripts, with police?
    1. Brother Sarych
      0
      21 February 2012 09: 33
      And what is the relationship between reservists and contract soldiers? Explain your idea, if not difficult ...
    2. 0
      21 February 2012 09: 40
      Well so another theatrical-election pearl! In general, I have the opinion that he first speaks and then thinks.
    3. -1
      21 February 2012 12: 51
      No, I threatened to invite people from the CIS countries to contract to serve in the army.
      1. 0
        21 February 2012 14: 52
        and today, by the way, they serve quite a lot from the CIS
        1. -1
          21 February 2012 15: 42
          Not being citizens of Russia? What is it like?
          1. -1
            21 February 2012 15: 53
            but how did you get citizenship in three months? and today why did you complicate it. up to five years? doesn’t it concern you Russian or not .. why did this question come up more than once and there are no shifts? But during the events of Chechnya it’s not without citizenship. .. it’s not clear who at all, but came to the draft board without a commission, without citizenship at 40-45 years old, Alga !! so many remained to serve ... and today they go ... and they want more ... but ....
            1. -2
              21 February 2012 19: 49
              Quote: Gleb
              ? And during the events of Chechnya it’s not that without citizenship ... it’s not clear who at all, but he came to the military commissariat and without a commission, without citizenship at 40-45 years old, alga !!
              Right there they gave out an assault rifle and the next day they went to their trenches in the trenches near Grozny. So what?
              Did you personally go or do you know from rumors? What is "no commission" and "stateless"? Is it okay that there was a contract with the Ministry of Defense in all forms? Only for six months. And at least for this it was necessary to have a military ID to have Russian and Russian citizenship. Yes, and the military registration and enlistment office had to go exactly where the citizen is not on the military register.
              1. biglow
                0
                21 February 2012 22: 40
                not Russian citizens are taken into the Russian army, for example, from Ukraine, but it’s not so easy, but only fit and after serving in the local army or living in Russia permanently, there is a special law, and Igor’s color often changes like the look of her
              2. 0
                22 February 2012 06: 09
                I have been there and I say with confidence that there were such. And convicted and age and stateless

                Nothing that there was a contract with the MO in all forms? Only for a period of six months. And at least for this it was necessary to have a military card to have Russian and Russian citizenship. Yes, and it was necessary to go to the draft board exactly where the citizen is on military records.


                that’s all I know .. but are you so naive that you think everything is done according to the law? We give pedophiles deputies five years of probation for rape, murderers and bribe takers generally remain without punishment. You can still copy the Criminal Code here, to show me that this cannot be)
              3. -1
                22 February 2012 06: 30
                I won’t prove what happened there, don’t you believe in any sense, but there are a ton of such cases ...
                http://www.izvestia.ru/news/261307

                and it’s not even 94 years old .. and the example is not the most unusual .. it was much more fun
  15. Sarus
    +2
    21 February 2012 09: 35
    Yesterday I listened to V. Zhirinovsky.
    He says if you don’t choose, then everything will be bad ....
    I listened to Putin yesterday ... He said that for 3 children they will give good benefits .. But only in those regions where the negative demography. I think this is a great move .. Firstly, it is an increase in the incentive to give birth. Secondly, this is an increase in the percentage of the Russian population. Thirdly, this is the development of territories. This is Siberia Far East and Northwest ...
    For such laws and initiatives, I’m for both hands for ..
    And we will choose Prokhorov ... Well, he will marry and that will make it better in the country ...
    Or Mironov for a year? In a year he will say that it’s not the time to leave ...
    1. +2
      21 February 2012 12: 08
      Quote: Sarus
      I listened to Putin yesterday ... He said that for 3 children they will give good benefits

      Better guaranteed housing. Even if, as with the Union, we would have to stand in line for 5-8 years. And then for him and for half his life to earn is unrealistic. I would applaud while standing!
      1. +2
        21 February 2012 13: 00
        Quote: Ribwort
        Better guaranteed housing. Even if, as with the Union, we would have to stand in line for 5-8 years.

        Then in everything and everywhere there was one employer and distributor of benefits - the State. Even through its representatives, ministries, enterprises. And now a person works in a commercial company, for example, why would the state need to provide him with an apartment? There are still market relations in the country. Although the same social housing is being built and distributed.
    2. +2
      21 February 2012 12: 56
      Quote: Sarus
      He said that for 3 children they will give good benefits .. But only in those regions where the negative demography.

      That is right. This is really competent.
      Quote: Sarus
      And we will choose Prokhorov ... Well, he will marry and that will make it better in the country ...

      He will also make schools work around the clock (though how specifically?) So that "parents and children can study in circles" At night? He seems to have very strange ideas about what people usually do when they come home from work at night and go back to work the next day.
  16. Nechai
    +3
    21 February 2012 09: 46
    Don’t take it to heart show... Everything is scheduled by the director of this action. The actors carefully portray the struggle of the "Nanai boys" / for the younger generation - there was such a number on the Soviet stage - oneas a rule, the artist is very funny portrayed a dueldressed in malitsy two wrestlers/. Prokhorov was kicked out under the spotlights, so that there was a bearer of the right-wing liberal idea. Was it presented at the Duma? Was. So it must be presented at the presidential elections. It is understandable that in present-day Russia she "does not dance", but female dogs of a non-Russian breed must be plugged with this bone. Zhirik "burns" - "Pshal !!!" And lash the poor donkey, who does not understand what this strange little bituk wants from him. That Mironov, that tovarisCh ZYu - "quietly with myself I am leading the desed." And how else is it, to be in a systemic OP-position, you know, it obliges ... And outside the systemic one and aspires to the Premier League. The leader of the Nizhny Novgorod Komsomol, Mr. Nemtsov, in front, on a dashing horse, inescapable arrogance ...
  17. +6
    21 February 2012 09: 47
    Igor,
    Are you sure that the bulk of this generation voted for Yeltsin? Of my acquaintances, no one voted for him, and how the Baalsh question was chosen. And then something about the violation in the elections everyone was silent in a rag.
    1. Igor
      -3
      21 February 2012 10: 08
      Quote: djsa1
      Are you sure that the bulk of this generation voted for Yeltsin?


      Yes! Because he became president.

      Quote: djsa1
      No one from my friends voted for him


      This is not an indicator.

      Quote: djsa1
      , and how he was chosen by the balsa question.


      They chose him by voting.

      Quote: djsa1
      And then something about the violation in the elections everyone was silent in a rag.


      Then everyone was silent, and now people went to Bolotnaya.
      1. Igor
        -1
        21 February 2012 11: 19
        You see how they are minus, but there is nothing to argue)))
        1. +4
          21 February 2012 13: 22
          Quote: Igorek
          You see how the rats are minus, but there is nothing to argue)))

          Well minus and minus. Their right. But about "rats" not so long ago, there was a conversation in two topics. This is called - "insulting forum participants", which is prohibited by the rules.
          And regarding the previous remark - yes, he was voted for and, presumably, the majority, in large cities, his electorate went off scale. Prior to that, for several years, they were brainwashed intensively and using technologies unknown to Soviet people at that time. We now understand that if something is written in the newspaper, it can be anything and it is better to take it with a certain skepticism and focus on your own mind. At the same time, for decades, they taught that once in a newspaper / magazine / on the screen it was true and the streams of lies flowed just like wild waves. And the same "fight against privileges" - which consisted of a wooden one-story dacha in the forest and a company car.
          After all, whatever one may say, thousands of Banderlog flooded in 1991 to the White House to defend "freedom and democracy in Russia." And among the old GKChPists, no one did not have the courage to give a command and within half an hour everything would be over. Yeltsin almost left for the American embassy to flee.
          And, unfortunately, there was no one to organize the "anti-Yeltsin" Poklonnaya Hill. Well, how it ended - we all know perfectly well. A lot of blood, collapse, devastation - the true face of "democracy".
          1. Igor
            +1
            21 February 2012 14: 22
            Quote: Viking
            Well minus and minus. Their right.

            I also have the right to know why they put me a minus.

            Quote: Viking
            This is called - "insulting forum participants", which is prohibited by the rules.


            This is called "a compliment for some forum participants"

            Quote: Viking
            And about the previous remark - yes, they voted for him and we must assume the majority, in large cities - his electorate went through the roof.


            That's what I said about this. And about the fact that Soviet people were attacked by unknown brainwashing technologies and that they were taught to believe newspapers and television, so they had their own heads on their shoulders and no one forbade them to use it.
            1. 0
              21 February 2012 14: 38
              With personal complaints, go to the PM !!!
              1. Igor
                0
                21 February 2012 14: 52
                If I knew these people, I would definitely chat with them in PM.
      2. slas
        0
        21 February 2012 21: 03
        Quote: Igorek
        Quote: djsa1
        Are you sure that the bulk of this generation voted for Yeltsin?


        Yes! Because he became president.

        Quote: djsa1
        No one from my friends voted for him


        This is not an indicator.

        Quote: djsa1
        , and how he was chosen by the balsa question.


        They chose him by voting.

        Quote: djsa1
        And then something about the violation in the elections everyone was silent in a rag.


        Then everyone was silent, and now people are

        OBAMOVA PROPOGANDA laughing
        Quote: Igorek
        Quote: djsa1
        No one from my friends voted for him


        This is not an indicator.

        The person has friends who will confirm his words. And who do you confirm - NOT INDICATOR? laughing laughing
        1. Igor
          0
          22 February 2012 06: 43
          Quote: slas
          OBAMOVA PROPOGANDA


          I am amazed at your level of intelligence)))

          Quote: slas
          And who will confirm with you


          I have information from reliable sources that on July 3, 1996, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin became president of the Russian Federation.

          Quote: slas
          The person has friends who will confirm his words


          And I have friends who voted for him.
  18. +7
    21 February 2012 09: 48
    Prokhorov and three elderly, eternal candidates behave towards the Commander precisely by the joke:
    People gathered in the square to listen to the presidential candidate. The first, who has neither merit nor authority, climbed onto the podium and let's shout:
    "People. Don't believe my rival, he is an alcoholic himself, his eldest son is homosexual, and his junior drug addict and his wife are a prostitute!"
    The second candidate from below tugs at his pants and says: "What are you bastard, I have not sons, but daughters - decent girls, and my wife is the head of the fund for helping the disabled."
    To which the first one says to him: And now you prove it to people! "
    So in our country, grief candidates pour dirt to where they themselves did not hit a finger on a finger, but to cheat - the masters!
    1. slas
      +1
      21 February 2012 21: 06
      Anecdote to the topic laughing
  19. +8
    21 February 2012 09: 58
    Quote: 916

    The name is already ready: The Elite Party of the Oligarchs of Russia.

    I would modify the name a little: the Foreign-American Party of the Russian Oligarchs! +
    1. +4
      21 February 2012 10: 35
      nokki Very constipated - it's really a good name for them!))))))))) good
  20. +4
    21 February 2012 10: 13
    how about me - Volodya will win, and the rest somehow do not pull on such a post, he is more interested in what will happen after the elections, the cries and nagging of the opposition and the West (although something like that already happened when he became prime minister - the truth is then quickly they put up with this and ran to the bow - I remember the prime minister of England criticized the GDP very sharply, but then the first rushed to bow at the feet wink ), but in general, all this one-to-one resembles the situation that was in Ukraine, and God forbid you that these would beg for re-elections or something else (I mean "opposition"), nothing good will come of it, but how much we have these "honest" oppositionists dough for campaigning and elections then died out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a joke - for a couple of years in a row, some elections were going on - either to the Rada or to the presidency .............- it was possible, for that money, to pay all the country's debts and set up factories, and everyone shouted that they are honest - and the loot was pouring like a horn of plenty ..................................... under the end already everyone was sick of the elections ...
  21. flukked
    +8
    21 February 2012 10: 20
    Putin is certainly cool cool, the Army is there, the Olympics and more. But there is also an internal field of activity of the president. Personally, what does not suit me the most is that for 12 years of his power Putin has not been decided.

    1. Bureaucracy. Like 12 years, all state structures working directly with citizens are incredibly bureaucratic. Piles of papers, permissions, queues, authorities. Any administrative or housing issue results in the passage of the seven circles of hell.
    2. Corruption. Like 12 years ago, nothing, in any instance, can not be solved without a bribe and a magarych. This is largely a consequence of the first paragraph, but still I do not see any practical work in the eradication of corruption and, most importantly, I do not see the results.
    3. Cronyism and clanism. The importance of family ties is everything. No matter how cool you are, no matter how hard you study and plow, if you have someone else's son in your place, then you have no chance. Moreover, the worst thing is that this nepotism flourishes in government structures. Deputies, senior officials in law enforcement and local government. Everywhere the son is on the heels of his dad, who leads him by the handle over the heads of competitors.
    Already comes to the point of absurdity. Dad is a deputy, mother is a businessman, son is a prosecutor, and daughter is a justice of the peace. And all cover each other.

    Much has been done in 12 years, but this is not enough. Catastrophically not enough.
    1. +1
      21 February 2012 10: 49
      nevertheless, he is certainly not a saint, but I would like to believe that he is trying for Russia, because in reality it’s easier to build a new one than to repair or remake the old one, and taking into account the traditions of bureaucracy and bribery is real only by the 20-30s method - put to the wall - but how many innocent heads will fly then !? and people themselves will squeak, saying that somehow it’s so cruel ....
    2. yorik_gagarin
      +3
      21 February 2012 11: 07
      1-2. Corruption and bureaucracy is like bugs, rats and cockroaches will always exist !!! Neither Putin, Pupkin, Plyushkin can not cope with them. This is a task for the nation as a whole. The sense of your dichlorvos if your neighbor has a pigsty at his place. Only under Boris Pian did you not talk about this, but thought what to do so that the children are full and the bald brothers are happy. In 90, and the words didn’t know that - corruption, then they lived according to concepts !!!!
      3. Cronyism and clanism have existed always and everywhere. What is wrong if you are an officer in the fifth generation for example !!! Another question is what kind of clans are now in Russia .... so these clans in mink coats on a swamp rally .... those clans that have two passports ..... those who sooooo hate Putin !!!
    3. abyss 8
      +1
      21 February 2012 23: 52
      "It is already reaching the point of absurdity. Dad is a deputy, mom is a businessman, son is a prosecutor, daughter is a magistrate. And they cover each other." - and that says EVERYTHING! WHERE IS THE SIMPLE PEOPLE HERE? WHERE IS ITS PLACE IN THIS COORDINATE SYSTEM? WHO NEEDS IT? and most importantly: WHAT AND WHOM IS THIS SYSTEM CREATED FOR?
  22. +1
    21 February 2012 11: 44
    Regular election tales. And once every 4 years they counted too often - they increased it. But in reality there is no candidate for a cat you could vote. Return the "against all" column
  23. +1
    21 February 2012 11: 47
    In all countries, it’s like if a condate from the party loses, then the next election has a different face, and we have the same faces for twenty years. Well, the Communists or the LDP members could pick up the younger and smarter condoms, and maybe the rating would be higher, although this election is fixed. It’s just not right to say that Putin is also in power for 12 years. Let's look at the facts by popularity and rating. Vladimir Vladimirovich is the most popular politician in the world, take Obama or Sorcasi. Compare the percentage of support from citizens!? And why should he leave, just to please the west and the balot, and what to spit and grind into the country. So let the Baltologists indulge what they want, they will not change the balance of power.
  24. +7
    21 February 2012 12: 02
    In general, during all the campaign movements, a curious situation in the information field
    The network forms the idea - everything is bad in Russia, vote for anyone but Putin.
    The television says the opposite - everything in Russia is good, almost everyone supports Putin, and you vote for him too, you see, VTsIOM interviewed Russians, everyone supports Vladimir Vladimirovich, and the rest are outsiders.
    And society is split into two large camps - "I am for Putin" and "I am against Putin."
    And both of these sides abundantly pour mud on each other.
    Everyone wants a change for the BETTER, both Putin's supporters and his opponents. And an ideological stamp is being formed in society. Those who are for Putin are enemies THEY DO NOT WANT CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, and those who are against no matter kommunisty.liberals, social democrats "correct and advanced" guys who root for the country and WANT CHANGE.
    In the 80s V. Tsoi - the idol of youth sang a song with a similar name and supporters of change won.
    Now the supporter of changes, Y. SHEVCHUK, is singing from the rostrum. History repeats itself. It remains only to find out in the form of tragedy or farce.
    1. +3
      21 February 2012 13: 09
      Quote: Ascetic
      Now the supporter of changes Y. SHEVCHUK is singing from the rostrum of the rally

      Shevchuk also sang in the days of the USSR how bad everything was and how needed, well, cardinal changes are simply necessary. He was in a protest wave, so to speak. In the time of Boris Alcoholic, I don’t remember something about his demands for change. Looks like the 90s was his little time. And now he again urgently wanted a change ...
  25. serge
    0
    21 February 2012 12: 26
    One would be a Russian candidate for a change. Kvachkova, for example. But after all, Soviet times have already passed. Pop that give, as they say.
  26. Dimitrxnumx
    0
    21 February 2012 12: 30
    Unfortunately, we have no one to choose from, all the time the same faces.
  27. 0
    21 February 2012 13: 10
    You read your comments (supporters of the re-election of Putin) and you wonder. Is this the comments of naive or hired people? I do not want to offend anyone. If offended, then I'm sorry! How many more people need to understand that all the promises, all the articles that Putin ascribes to himself (if anyone understands the style and disassembly of writing texts, he will understand that all the articles are written by different people) is pure populism! After the election, nothing will change. The same people will sit in the government, there will be the same governors, the same principle of appointing people to positions will apply (the closer to Putin, the higher the post). Mostly on this site they criticize Serdyukov. So Mr. Putin speaks of him only positively and credits him with the reform of the army. Why do all unpopular laws and government regulations come into effect at the end of an election? Because Putin is not a fool to give effect to these decrees and laws. An increase in housing and communal services tariffs from 1.07.2012, an increase for electricity, gas, and the entry into force of the 83 Law (On increasing the share of commercialization in budget organizations). Is it really not enough for you that Putin, together with his friends oligarchs, pushed us into the WTO, and the WTO is the end to our agriculture, mechanical engineering, chemical industry, textile, etc. . Only representatives of metallurgy and oil and gas oligarchs win. You did not ask, why is Putin against the state’s monopoly on alcohol and the production of strong alcoholic drinks? Yes, because his friends are the largest owners of this business. Is this not enough for you? Then I do not know what else you need.
    1. Olegovich
      +1
      21 February 2012 13: 42
      Here I am not a naive and not a hired person. For Putin. Because to rule a country, you need to know how. You need to know the theory of management, its principles. Nobody thinks that it is enough for the president to say: do well! It is necessary to delve into the topic, obtain reliable information, compare the methods and ways of solving the problem (if they are known), prepare the legal framework (laws, regulations, etc., etc.), and only then, in accordance with the law, give instructions on the start of work, which can last 3-5 years, and the effect can be seen after 7 years. And then all the time they are encouraging "that is so slow", and they steal neatly so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose. We all know our Russian discipline and honesty.
      How much do we, ordinary people, know about the importance of reforming the judicial system, legal framework, tax reforms, education reforms in the end ?! This is all "invisible, undercover" work, and it is extremely important! Its results are difficult to assess directly, and easily perverted.
      However, those visible, visible results of the work of GDP already exist: these are few, but new industries, this is a stable work of industry and business, this is a growing budget, this is a calm crisis (and how Europe is shaking with their enormous unemployment), these are new maternity hospitals and hospitals, this is the rearmament of the army and the increase in salaries for military personnel, this is the balanced behavior of the Russian Federation on the world stage, this is the fight against drunkenness and smoking, this is, after all, an insane amount of foreign cars on the roads, millions of cottages and water parks, this is a decrease in abandoned children, this is a military apartment , and veterans.
      In agriculture: only in our Volgograd region several very large livestock farms are being built on investment projects, etc. etc. Kourami Russia already provides itself, soon it will provide pork and beef. Wheat harvests are breaking records, that's a fact.
      And as for the property of his friends, so where are the facts? Mr. Strauss-Kahn and then dumped, although everyone knew that he did not touch this ...
      1. karla
        -4
        21 February 2012 13: 50
        Quote: Olegych
        Nobody thinks that it’s enough for the president to say: do well! It is necessary to delve into the topic, obtain reliable information, compare methods and ways of solving the problem (if they are known), prepare a legal framework (laws, regulations, etc., etc.), and only then, in accordance with the law, give an indication of the start of work, which can last 3-5 years, and the effect can be seen after 7 years

        12 years is not enough, or was someone else in power earlier?
        Quote: Olegych
        How much do we, ordinary people, know about the importance of reforming the judicial system, legal framework, tax reforms, education reforms in the end ?! This is all "invisible, undercover" work, and it is extremely important! Its results are difficult to assess directly, and easily perverted.

        Actually, there is as a minimum the president's apparatus, which prepares laws, the EDRO which is "approved" in the Duma at the first call, the absence of opposition. What was in the way earlier?
        Quote: Olegych
        And as for the property of his friends, so where are the facts?

        Well, one fact. GDP owns 2 gas -21 and a Skif trailer and one or 2 apartments. and all? People hawala.
        1. +6
          21 February 2012 14: 39
          karla

          Dear, you, in my opinion, need to intensively prepare for a war with Iran, grease the "Sling of David" and on the Merkavas forward to the victory of world Zionism, and not discuss the presidential candidates of a foreign country. If the state of Israel is ready to pay with the lives of its citizens to "save from the Iranian" nuclear threat "a flag in its hands and a tailwind in the fuselage Heil avir. Russia under Putin does not threaten Israel, your fellow citizens feel more than good here, Iran is also not particularly good podderzhimami.What did you not please Putin? He is a protege of the world government of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and your oligarch brothers.
          1. karla
            -3
            21 February 2012 14: 47
            Quote: Ascetic
            Why didn’t Putin please you?

            Well, to begin with, I’ll vote just like you. Not for the GDP, of course. But I’m not going to conduct election campaign. You’ve been developing this topic for 3 weeks or more / I don’t agree with everything, I have questions. Why not get a clear answer to them.
            Or are you for the fact that I am depriving citizenship against GDP?
            March 4, 2012 will be the election of the President of the Russian Federation. Citizens of Russia residing or temporarily in Israel will also be able to vote in these elections.

            -

            According to the Russian Embassy, ​​polling stations will be organized in 13 cities of Israel. You can vote on them from 8 to 20 hours on Sunday, March 4. In addition, in one city - Petah Tikva - an exit point will operate from 11 to 18.
            1. +1
              21 February 2012 14: 53
              Alexander, you judge by the country without living in it, can you come to visit?
              1. karla
                -3
                21 February 2012 15: 12
                Quote: urzul
                Alexander, you judge by the country without living in it, can you come to visit?

                Was 9 times in 18 years. Probably not enough? Last in 2011.
                1. +1
                  21 February 2012 15: 46
                  I have been in Israel for 6 years 5 times, my wife is Jewish. And somehow I can’t agree with you, you are really wrapping things up in a bad way
                  1. karla
                    0
                    21 February 2012 15: 49
                    Quote: urzul
                    I have been in Israel for 6 years 5 times, my wife is Jewish. And somehow I can’t agree with you, you are really wrapping things up in a bad way

                    about what ?
                    1. -1
                      21 February 2012 15: 55
                      Policies and situations in the Russian Federation
                      1. karla
                        +1
                        21 February 2012 16: 02
                        Quote: urzul
                        Policies and situations in the Russian Federation

                        Personal opinion, let's bet. truth is born in a dispute. in the end we both wish Russia only good
                      2. 0
                        21 February 2012 16: 04
                        Honestly, writing the same thing sometimes bothers you, you can read my arguments in the archive of my comments
            2. +7
              21 February 2012 15: 07
              I don’t agitate anyone, I just want people to think about the PRICE of CHANGE that they are ready to choose for themselves. So that everyone weighs on his scales and thinks. and was not guided by the emotions and appeals of the barricade masters. If something happens, you will safely stay in Israel, and according to the BILLS we will pay, including your
              1. karla
                0
                21 February 2012 15: 09
                Quote: Ascetic
                and according to ACCOUNTS we will pay, including your

                And also my relatives and friends. (Living in Russia) According to your accounts !!!!
                1. +2
                  21 February 2012 15: 25
                  Quote: karla
                  And also my relatives and friends. (Living in Russia) According to your accounts !!!!

                  Contradict yourself. Relatives and friends living (and not coming for a short time) in Russia have their own opinion and their own right to choose. And they are here to live with us (unless of course, according to your example, they got a second passport).
                  You have come and gone, but from the "promised land" you teach with might and main how we live here and who are not going to leave anywhere to equip our country.
                  This is probably very convenient when there is a spare Motherland, we don’t have it, and therefore we don’t need any revolutions here. But stability and development are needed. And accordingly, the President who can provide this.
                  1. karla
                    -3
                    21 February 2012 15: 44
                    Quote: Viking
                    Contradict yourself. Relatives and friends living (and not coming for a short time) in Russia have their own opinion and their own right to choose. And they are here to live with us (unless of course, according to your example, they got a second passport).

                    I express my opinion exclusively.
                    You probably think that in order to have information you need to live permanently in the Russian Federation? Skype, in-that, there is no TV? But unlike you, I have infa from other sources and it’s strange, it often coincides with what I hear from my friends, than by RTR or ORT.


                    Quote: Viking
                    you can teach us how we live here and who are not going to leave to equip our country.

                    Why is your opinion on the arrangement of the country the only right one? One of the reasons for my departure (1993) was a racket specifically and stupidly run into business. Backfill question, what has changed? Just that they began to shoot less, and the racket simply took on other forms. Or I'm lying again?

                    Quote: Viking
                    we don’t have it, and therefore we don’t need any revolutions here in FIG. But stability and development are needed.

                    Apart from GDP, no one can provide this? Come on (distractedly), what is Prokhorov? Your opinion ?
                    1. +2
                      21 February 2012 17: 36
                      Quote: karla
                      What is Prokhorov? Your opinion ?


                      . Minimize defense spending (should not exceed health care costs). Repeated land privatization- In his opinion, the state should redeem unit land at market prices and donate it to farmers OR privatize. (devil in detail) Offers effective civil-military concerns producing both civilian and military products,
                      is the complete collapse of the existing system military-industrial complex
                      According to Prokhorov, the growth of social expenditures should not exceed the growth of labor productivity, pensions should be proportional to the salary received - since labor productivity you yourself will know what will be and where, do not expect pensions and benefits.
                      “Only the higher education that gives specialists the professions necessary for the Russian economy should be free” completely closes the entry of children of poor citizens into universities if they, for example, want to become musicians or journalists, historians and philologists.
                      Prokhorov also advocates for the election of district inspectors and the leadership of the local bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, proposes to prohibit the abolition of jury decisions by higher courts and to significantly update the corps of judges, to change the principles for their selection. In addition, Prokhorov believes, it is necessary to create a mechanism for implementing the decisions of authoritative international courts. -Reminds 1917 (when they selected the chiefs in the police and the army, then they really quickly changed their minds) in no normal country, I certainly don’t have a lawyer if you tell me what it threatens.
                      Amnesty of convicts for economic crimes, having served a third of the term. - About friends Khodorkovsky cares about authoritative businessmen
                      The privatization of state-owned companies and the direction of the proceeds from this to the Pension Fund are in the first sentence and the second is pure populism, and then how to replenish the Pension Fund.
                      And so it is everywhere. Do not forget that the President of Russia is the Supreme Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, including the Strategic Nuclear Forces. It is a shame for the Kurshaveli dandy of the Supreme Armed Forces to be a shame for a self-respecting army. It’s the same as the Commander of the Airborne Forces to disarm Borya Moses. .
                      1. +2
                        21 February 2012 17: 54
                        Yes, I forgot a joke The transfer of the innovation center from Skolkovo to Kaliningrad and the extension of Skolkovo preferences to all science cities.
                        и face west.
                        Hut, stand in the forest in front of me backwards and bend a little
              2. karla
                0
                22 February 2012 09: 00
                Quote: Ascetic
                PRICE OF CHANGE which they are ready to choose for themselves

                The question is, why change, why can't the option to continue development, just with a different team?
        2. 0
          21 February 2012 15: 04
          Quote: karla
          12 years is not enough, or was someone else in power earlier?

          Do you think Russia 2000 and Russia 2012 are the same?
          1. karla
            -2
            21 February 2012 15: 14
            Quote: Cynic
            Do you think Russia 2000 and Russia 2012 are the same?

            No, it got better and progress was visible somewhere until 2006-2007, and then everything stalled. Apart from oil and gas, nothing changes
            1. +1
              21 February 2012 15: 22
              Quote: karla
              progress was visible somewhere until 2006-2007

              On May 7, 2008, he transferred power to the elected president, former head of his administration, Dmitry Medvedev. A few days earlier, Putin took 2nd place on the Time list of "100 Most Influential People in the World."

              And then the WORLD CRISIS began.
              1. karla
                -2
                21 February 2012 15: 47
                Quote: Cynic
                On May 7, 2008, he transferred power to the elected president, former head of his administration, Dmitry Medvedev. A few days earlier, Putin took 2nd place on the Time list of "100 Most Influential People in the World."
                And then the WORLD CRISIS began.

                Haha, GDP transferred power, a new anagdot. I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about the management system (power vertical)
      2. abyss 8
        0
        21 February 2012 23: 59
        “Because to run a country, you need to know how.” Is an interesting thesis ... where did the Chekist Putin, who was brought to Yeltsin by Berezovsky and company, know how to run such a country in 1998 ??? and second: that is, based on your logic - there will be no candidates at all until the death of the king ??? strange logic lol do not be offended, but you are a victim of Surkov's propaganda ... too lazy to just "tear" you Yes
    2. Sarus
      +5
      21 February 2012 13: 54
      starshina78,
      In many ways, right ...
      But I’ll say such things ...
      In the 90's, my father worked in agriculture. The Russian Federation was not yet in the WTO .. ​​The salary was delayed for six months ... And they gave it out with potatoes and beets ....
      Now the enterprise is also one of the leaders in our region ... From the Soviet heritage there was only a checkpoint .. everything else was built since 2003 2004 (Putin's 2 term). There is a competition for a device to work ... Let's see how the WTO will affect our s \ x ...
      The second:
      If Zhirinovsky is the president, then his whole team will come to power ... And here, probably, many will agree with me that it will be interesting ...
      Zyuganov says that he will analyze the enterprises ... For this, he will need the support of the State Duma and the Federation Council ... But this will not follow .. There will be an impeachment hiding ...
      Prokhorov if he will be president ... I don’t want to work 60 hours a week ... And if I still raise my retirement age, I don’t want to ..
      Mironov promises to resign in a year ... Well, I do not believe ... And who can guarantee that in a year the West will recognize the election as legitimate? ...
      One more thing ... I don’t hear from the candidates I will support a young family. reducing mortgages and supporting demographics ... Yes, there is no experience in the international arena to negotiate ...
      And most importantly, the candidates now have no leverage on the State Duma (except for VV Putin) and how are they going to change the Constitution?
      It is clear that in 2000 a lot of negative things appeared ... But tell me, when was the last time the miners went on strike or someone else? There are pluses when Putin V.V. is in power .... But I think that his minuses are much easier to carry than the pluses of the other candidates ...
      1. +6
        21 February 2012 14: 45
        Sarus Today, 13: 54
        But tell me, when was the last time the miners went on strike, or someone else?
        ----------------------------------
        This is where the dog is buried.
        The miners do not go on strike, but Sobchak and Nemtsov and Co. are on strike. Apparently their prospects have become gloomy, and the global advocates of democracy for them all will be dusted away, not like some miners.
        1. -1
          21 February 2012 14: 54
          As well as teachers and doctors, let them pay little, but pay
          1. abyss 8
            0
            22 February 2012 00: 02
            "As well as teachers and doctors, even if they pay little, they pay" - ahah, well, this is generally the pearl of the day! lol did a favor - paid a meager salary ... do you even understand what you are writing? .. or on Surkov’s salary? then everything is clear laughing
        2. -1
          21 February 2012 14: 58
          Quote: kosopuz
          But tell me, when was the last time the miners went on strike, or someone else?
          ----------------------------------
          This is where the dog is buried.
          The miners do not go on strike, but Sobchak and Nemtsov and Co. are on strike.

          By the way, this is very precisely noticed. Something strikes at enterprises, in transport in other areas have been gone for a long time. It can be seen how all "people live worse and worse."
          1. +4
            21 February 2012 17: 46
            Quote: Viking
            By the way, this is very precisely noticed. Something strikes at enterprises, in transport in other areas have been gone for a long time. It can be seen how all "people live worse and worse."


            You just need to remind people of the knocking of helmets on Vasilievsky Descent
            and EBN's famous promise to "get on the rails." Yes, bags of coal instead of a salary should not be forgotten during the reign of "effective owners" Prokhorovs, Deripasoks and others like them.
    3. 0
      21 February 2012 14: 58
      From a person who requires other stylistic analysis of articles, at least knowledge of Russian grammar is desirable.
      Or are you one of the defenders of the students oppressed by the lessons of the Russian language? Which require the abolition of grammar rules? (the first step is simplification so far).
      There is no language, people.
  28. +3
    21 February 2012 13: 29
    Shevchuk needs a fight, and with whom and for what is not important it is important, only in this he considers himself again popular. The main thing that would be a movement.
    1. Rezys
      +4
      21 February 2012 13: 39
      And why didn’t he fight with anyone after the collapse of the Union? And he began to fight again when Russia more or less got stronger? Is it just a matter of popularity. Not sure, not sure.
  29. +2
    21 February 2012 13: 32
    Quote: starshina78
    You did not ask, why is Putin against the state’s monopoly on alcohol and the production of strong alcoholic drinks?

    Give the fact that he says he is "against". In my opinion, this is good. Since there is room for maneuver in the future to slightly stifle this industry (production and sale of alcohol). If they directly bring income in the form of "drunken money" to the treasury, no one will raise a hand against them. And so alcohol producers also pay taxes, the amount of which is set by the state.
    A bit from the wiki:

    For example, in 2007 in Russia for strong drinks the excise rate was set at 162 rubles per liter of alcohol [1]. This means that the excise tax on one bottle of vodka with a capacity of 0,5 liters is 32,4 rubles. If the retail price of a bottle, for example, is about 100 rubles, this means that about a third of the cost of vodka goes to the state (not to mention other taxes, such as, for example, VAT). Together with VAT it will be 47 rubles, that is, almost half of the retail price.

    In 2011, the excise tax on alcohol, with a strength of more than 9% vol. amounted to 231 rubles / liter of alcohol, for less strong drinks - 170 rubles / liter of alcohol (for vermouth and alcohol tinctures - 190 rubles / liter). The excise tax rates for beer are separately specified: 10 rubles / liter for low-alcohol beer (0,5-8,6%) and 17 rubles / liter for strong beer. For each liter of champagne, the buyer has to pay 18 rubles to the treasury.

    In 2012, the excise tax on beer will be 12 and 21 rubles per liter for normal and strong beer, respectively. Excise taxes on other drinks will also increase in the coming years at a rate ahead of inflation
  30. +2
    21 February 2012 14: 24
    For twenty years I consider myself not necessary for society. So much I could do good, useful ... I am very glad that many found themselves in this life. Someone worked tirelessly, someone was able to achieve success with talent and a bright head, someone just having good connections and arrogance. They feel useful to society, have high self-esteem, self-esteem. They will go to the polls to vote for Putin, they have something to lose. It was enough for the state to simply increase the monetary allowance of the army, the police and people perked up. Very happy for military and police officers. The state generally had no right to offend its defenders for so much time. The trouble with the current government is that there are unfortunately more people like me than in the army and police and in Moscow together. Since the 90s, they remained overboard many millions of people. And we’ll be adults, we won’t see improvements soon. The American brothers don’t need a strong Russia. Our main candidate is going to restore the economy, relying on the West and the oligarchs, and on the Western market. industry as their own ears. And if something suddenly happens, our army does NOT have a reliable rear that would protect nobody who is not needed like me. Without industry this is not possible. And the rear in the war is probably the most important thing. into the hands of a machine gun, and go into the partisans.
    1. 0
      21 February 2012 15: 31
      Quote: magadanets
      For twenty years I consider myself not needed by society.

      What a nightmare. Indeed, no kidding. This is what needs to be done for 20 years so that there is nothing useful not to do, and as far as I understand, having that desire.
  31. Olegovich
    +2
    21 February 2012 15: 17
    Putin himself answered the question "what prevented you from doing earlier?" - there were no resources (money in the budget, projects, etc.), they were urgently forced to deal with burning things (terrorist attacks, unemployment, crisis, military conflict, man-made accident ...).
    1. karla
      0
      22 February 2012 09: 04
      Quote: Olegych
      Putin himself answered the question "what prevented you from doing earlier?" - there were no resources (money in the budget, projects, etc.), they were urgently forced to deal with burning things (terrorist attacks, unemployment, crisis, military conflict, man-made accident ...).

      There are always reasons. In general, the authorities who are most in the way are people. Without them, everything would have been ok.
  32. +1
    21 February 2012 15: 41
    Quote: Olegych
    Putin himself answered the question "what prevented you from doing earlier?" - there were no resources (money in the budget, projects, etc.),

    One external debt that was at that time. Under Yeltsin, loans were grabbed from wherever they could. But under Putin they paid for it.
    In 1999, the external state debt of Russia amounted to $ 138 billion, or 78% of GDP.
    By January 2010, it decreased by 3,4 times and amounted to $ 40,7 billion, or 2,75% of GDP. As of January 1, 2012, the public debt is 33 billion.
    1. karla
      0
      22 February 2012 09: 42
      Quote: Viking
      By January 2010, it decreased by 3,4 times and amounted to $ 40,7 billion, or 2,75% of GDP. As of January 1, 2012, the public debt is 33 billion.

      Government debt, this is not a primary indicator. It does not sound bad for the average person (no debts), but from an economic point of view, the presence of debt of 10-15% of GDP does not play any critical role. (I am not saying that it is bad without debts) It just should not be an end in itself. Investment attraction is much more important. Because you can find yourself in an interesting situation, there is money, there is nowhere to invest it and therefore they are beautiful or lie dead weight or invested abroad
  33. +2
    21 February 2012 16: 20
    The poverty level in Russia in 2011, according to preliminary data from the Federal State Statistics Service, rose to 12,8% of the total population compared with 2010, said Alexander Surinov, head of the Federal State Statistics Service, on Tuesday.
    “According to preliminary data, the population with cash incomes below the subsistence level in 2011 amounted to 12,8% of the total population,” he said.

    According to the agency, in 2010, Russians living below the poverty line, there were 17,9 million people (12,6% of the total population).

    At the same time, Surinov noted, the highest level of poverty in recent decades was noted in 1992, when it exceeded 33,5%.

    The living wage for an able-bodied citizen in Russia amounted to 2011 thousand rubles in the third quarter of 6,792, 4,961 thousand rubles for a pensioner, and 6,76 thousand rubles for a child.

    More details: http://news.mail.ru/politics/8156640/?frommail=1
  34. +2
    21 February 2012 17: 50
    Quote: yorik_gagarin
    1-2. Corruption and bureaucracy is like bugs, rats and cockroaches will always exist !!! Neither Putin, Pupkin, Plyushkin can not cope with them. This is a task for the nation as a whole.

    It is only necessary to pass a law on confiscation of property acquired by excessive labor of a corrupt official and a law on responsibility for delaying decision-making. The court proved that you took kick kick bribes in the ass, property is left only with the minimum necessary for life and the prohibition to occupy any leading posts throughout life . delayed the resolution of the issue for more than three days - a kick in the ass and also no longer be allowed to manage. And of course it is necessary to allow only competent people in the profile of the public service, and not on the principle of kinship and devotion.
    1. abyss 8
      0
      22 February 2012 00: 04
      "It is only necessary to pass a law on the confiscation of property acquired by the backbreaking work of a corrupt official and a law on responsibility for delaying the adoption of a decision" - ha-ha, but who will take it? have the flashers been canceled? don't make me laugh lol Palace in Praskoveevka - the answer to all your questions!
      1. karla
        0
        22 February 2012 09: 06
        Quote: Abyss 8
        Do not make laugh so the palace in Praskoveevka - the answer to all your questions!

        Stop, look at the declarations of the first persons. 2nd Volga, trailer and apartment. A little bit of stock .... that's all. Who would doubt that
        Quote: Abyss 8
        It is only necessary to pass a law on confiscation of property acquired by overwork

        They have nothing to confiscate.
    2. yorik_gagarin
      0
      22 February 2012 06: 13
      It all sounds good, of course. I am also for confiscation, for shooting pedophiles, for the abolition of such a thing as exceeding self-defense (how to determine it in a stressful situation even for a trained person) and so on. etc. But we must already understand. that all this should not work on the orders of the king. Need a working mechanism. Do you think it’s so easy to pass a law or something .... but this is still half the trouble ... it is necessary to reform the courts, cops, prosecutors. With our venality system, can you imagine what will happen if you really legitimize the execution? Yes, you accept the law on confiscation .... and the cops will be a business of cashmere ... not so simple.
  35. 0
    21 February 2012 18: 21
    Quote: man
    It’s just a law

    Here, here is the law.
    As long as there are laws, there will be people who violate them (everything will not be enough for them) and naturally try to avoid responsibility. How to avoid? ...
    The chain. Mobius strip so to speak.
    By the way . In countries that have won, such as democracy, there have recently been some corruption scandals and no one.

    Cadres decide everything.
  36. vladimir64ss
    0
    21 February 2012 18: 56
    There is nothing wrong with the fact that experts are preparing articles for Putin. The publications themselves quite clearly show his opinion on current affairs and prospects.
  37. 0
    22 February 2012 05: 33
    Putin is saying the right thing, but who will answer me a simple question with a specific example: Why is DIAMOND ANTEY destroyed? The enterprise producing C-400 and C-500 stopped the foundry, the leading specialists quit there, paid an average of 12 thousand per month and there came former collectors from the Volga Automobile Plant.?
    And so it is everywhere. Competent conversations and Putin’s wonderful charisma. Guys, I'm more and more convinced that we are bred as suckers. According to the gangster scheme, 90-x- first reassure, and then slam on a slack. Putin from the screen will broadcast what kind of patriot he is, the people will believe, but the same people, frightened by the Chunush, judges, lawyers, cops, guardianship authorities and other creatures, each of us individually will be silent and afraid, but continue to believe Putin that - now he’ll finally get together with the silushka and fight corruption and put in place the presumptuous scum from the authorities.
    1. yorik_gagarin
      0
      22 February 2012 06: 17
      Nobody really needs to believe, blissful believes)))
    2. -1
      22 February 2012 08: 05
      Quote: Magadan
      Why is DIAMOND ANTEY broken up? The enterprise that produced the S-400 and S-500 stopped the foundry, the leading specialists quit, the Crimea paid an average of 12 thousand a month and former collectors from the Volga Automobile Plant came there.?

      Also watched the transfer of Karaulov? The right things said, by the way!
    3. aironfirst
      0
      22 February 2012 09: 08
      Quote: Magadan
      Why is DIAMOND ANTEY broken up?

      I dare to suggest that this is a way to "replay" the results of the privatization of the military-industrial complex in order to remove foreign investors from this industry, at least I really hope so.
      now he’ll finally get together with silushka and fight corruption and put in place the presumptuous scum from the authorities.

      it is possible that raising salaries for employees of law enforcement agencies is a step towards this. IMHO, with the support of the Army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, you can "press to the nail"
      1. -1
        22 February 2012 17: 13
        Quote: aironfirst
        I dare to suggest that this is a way to "replay" the results of the privatization of the military-industrial complex

        No, everything is much worse there. Blast furnaces are stopped in the foundry (who knows, it is already impossible to start them back). Artificially created conditions for the dismissal of old qualified personnel, in their place gathered pickers who do not have experience in this production. Under the pretext of reconstruction, almost all the workshops were destroyed. Although wisely, this is being done in stages. According to experts, after the reconstruction (provided that it will not be disrupted) Production volumes will be BELOW existing.
        1. +1
          22 February 2012 17: 33
          Quote: Ribwort
          blast furnaces are stopped by the foundry (who knows, it is already impossible to start them back).

          Maybe why not?
          It just costs ... money.
          By the way, in my former factory this was done a couple of times in the 90s, to let Moscow commissions throw dust in their eyes.
    4. -2
      22 February 2012 09: 15
      The company producing C-400 and C-500
      C-500 then when did it manage to produce? without even completing development, and C-400 is just the beginning
  38. 0
    22 February 2012 12: 41
    Quote: yorik_gagarin
    Do you imagine with our venality system that

    So to hell with such a system!

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