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China and the United States - a military confrontation?

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For a long time, analysts have been scaring the world community with the annual growth of Chinese military power. In light of the rapid growth rates of Chinese budget military spending, the United States began to serve as a constant, if not the only, object for comparison with the PRC.




For the past two decades, the PRC has steadily increased its military budget; over the past ten years, its annual growth was on average 12%. In addition, Beijing every year more and more attention is paid to the improvement of military equipment and technology, gradually reducing the number of military personnel.

China's military expenditures, which amounted to 2011 billion dollars in 119,8, will increase to 2015 billion dollars by 238,2, i.e. double. By 2015, the military budget of the PRC will exceed the total defense expenditures of all the APR countries, which the analytical company IHS Global Insight estimates at the level of 232,5 billion dollars.

Against this background, it is noted that the United States, listed as potential opponents of China, reduces military spending. Before 2017, the Pentagon plans to reduce defense spending by 259 billion dollars, and for 10 the next few years - by 487 billion dollars. At the same time, the United States, like China, is going to equip the armed forces with the latest technology.

February 13 Barack Obama requested 613,9 billion dollars from the Pentagon Congress for the needs of the Pentagon (for the 2013 fiscal year). And this amount - on the "curtailed" program. From this it is obvious that China, at least on the scale of financing military expenditures, is still far from the United States.

Meanwhile, in terms of military spending, China is ranked 2 in the world - just after the United States. In the past two years, the defense expenditures of the PRC grew at a faster rate than in the last twenty years - by an average of 16,2%. However, Western experts (with their known tendency to hyperbolization) believe that China underestimates its military spending - as many times as 2-3.

It should be noted that the issues of building up the Chinese defense budget — amid the American economic crisis and defense savings in the States — are of great concern to Washington. The Pentagon has information about the construction of new submarines in the People's Republic of China, about the modernization of the missile forces and the nuclear weapons. 13 February 2012, Vice-President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping began his visit to the United States, during which meetings with the President, Vice President and Secretary of Defense of the United States are scheduled. Along with the growth of Chinese military power, the expansion of the US military presence in the APR will also be discussed at meetings.

The increase in tensions between the US and China is also connected with the adoption of a strategic document in Washington on 3 in January of 2012 in Washington: “Sustaining US Global Leadership: Priorities for 21 Century Defense”. The strategy states that the strengthening of China in the long run may affect the economy and security of the United States. The key points in the adopted US military strategy are reduced to a reduction in the number of American armed forces while simultaneously concentrating budget resources on the development of satellites and unmanned aircraft. The strategy also implies a reorientation of resources to the APR. According to media reports, Washington is going to deploy troops in Australia and send additional warships to Singapore and the Philippines.

It is also known that in August of last year, the Pentagon published a report, which reported on the re-equipment of the Chinese army, which poses a threat to neighboring countries. In response, the Chinese authorities demanded that the United States recognize that normal defense construction was underway in China. Representative of the Ministry of Defense of the PRC, Yan Yujun, said that in the conditions of the growth of the NTP, the modernization of weapons is a completely normal process, and the United States called the suspicions "perverted" and "not having any basis." In the same August, the 2011 of China was launched by the first aircraft carrier (the former Varyag), built in the USSR, bought from Ukraine and modernized. The appearance of "Varyag" also caused a rise in tensions between China and the United States. In addition, the Pentagon is waiting for the appearance of Chinese aircraft carriers - that is, of its own construction - by the year of 2015. True, 9 in January 2012 was spoken by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC, Liu Weimin, in the sense that Washington misinterprets Beijing’s intentions to modernize its armed forces and that China continues its peaceful development.

In early January, 2012, Mr .. Barack Obama said that the budget cuts in the country's military spending will not affect the ability of the US to withstand competition with strategic opponents. Quote: “Among the strategic opponents of the United States, Obama singled out Iran and China. Regarding the latter, the president remarked that in the long run Beijing will have an increasing influence on the economy and the military sphere of the USA ”(source: http://lenta.ru/news/2012/01/05/obama/). Lenta.ru also quoted the head of the Republicans in the Parliamentary Committee on Armed Forces, Bac McKeon, who criticized the Obama program to cut military spending: “The president must understand that the world has always had and will have a leader. While America is retreating, someone else is moving forward. ” Obviously, it was China that was meant by the first of “someone”.

As recently reminded by the Military Parity (http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic_perevodnie/1940/) with reference to the South Korean newspaper “The Chosunilbo”, in 2008, the Academy of Sciences of the PRC made a forecast, “according to which the military the power of this country will be equal to the USA after 2050, but it will take at least 20 or 30 years to finally surpass America in the military field. " At the same time, the “Military Parity” notes that in recent years, China has been rapidly increasing its armaments of the Air Force, Navy, and is making progress in space and rocket technology.

The Wall Street Journal reported in the 4 issue of January 2012 in the issue of the newest potential confrontation between the US and China (article by D. Barnes, N. Hoxha, D. Page). The article was about the construction of the American military aircraft carrier Navy "Gerald R. Ford", which soon (not earlier than 2015) would have been something of a guarantor of US naval superiority in the next half a century. But the fact is that Beijing has created a new DF-21D ballistic missile that can hit a moving ship at a distance of about 1.700 miles. This was stated by the Chinese state media. At the same time, American defense experts report that the newest Chinese rocket is capable of hitting a target from an angle that is too high for American defenses sliding above the sea, and at the same time too low for defenses against ballistic missiles of another class. The angle of the DF-21D (by the way, not yet deployed in the PRC) is such that even if the means of protection hit one or two missiles, the others will reach the target.

By the way, the rocket attack on Gerald R. Ford, as noted in an article in the Wall Street Journal, would endanger almost five thousand seamen’s lives. The crew of the aircraft carrier is huge, and the number of potential victims may exceed all the losses of Americans in Iraq.

In January, 2012 in Beijing conducted the first tests of the J-20, which is not detected by the latest fighter radars. This fighter allows China to strike, according to experts, at a very long distance - right up to the US military bases in Japan.

Chinese submarines are also very worried about US military experts. The newest or upgraded submarines stay under water for a long time and move silently. There is a case that happened back in 2006 year: the Chinese submarine was in the center of the compound of American warships and was not noticed by the Americans until it surfaced.

As a result, the conclusion suggests itself that the military power of China - in comparison with the US - does not necessarily have to be expressed in the multibillion-dollar amounts spent on the defense budget. Currently, we should talk about military-technological rivalry. For example, a new Chinese rocket may well force US warships to stay away from Chinese shores. Most likely, they will indeed keep a reasonable distance.

The answer of the Americans to the development of the newest Chinese missiles may be the creation of the above-mentioned unmanned aircraft that could take off from aircraft carriers at sea and stay in the air longer manned aircraft.

So, there is no reason to talk about open confrontation between China and the United States. It’s too early to talk about parity between the military forces of the United States and China. 2050 year? .. Today, all the forecasts for such a remote date look, perhaps, fantastic. Far more fantastic than the well-known statements of sociologists that by the middle of the twenty-first century in the United States, half of the population will speak Spanish. Rather, it is true that Beijing is trying with all its might to reduce the influence of US military power in the Asia-Pacific region while simultaneously raising the technological component of its army, rather than Beijing’s desire to “overtake and overtake” America militarily. “Overtake and overtake” is a well-known Soviet “doctrine”, which has not rational, but emotional roots. And the PRC’s military-political strategy hardly has anything in common with it.

Therefore, now it is not only early, but also unnecessary to make predictions about which of the two powers “outbid” each other - with rockets, aircraft carriers or unmanned aircraft. The goal of the PRC, it seems, is not to achieve military parity and, all the more so, a clear superiority over the United States, but to increase its influence in the APR — or, if you will, weaken Washington's influence in this region.
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  1. Splin
    Splin 20 February 2012 10: 16 New
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    Question.
    And why does this not bother Russia?
    1. esaul
      esaul 20 February 2012 10: 46 New
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      Quote: Splin
      Question. And why does this not bother Russia?

      And why, dear, did you decide that you do not bother? Deliveries of "Triumphs" ", it seems, are planned among the priority tasks! And, of course, no one will leave such pencils without the near and middle defensive perimeters.
    2. MDesant
      MDesant 20 February 2012 11: 18 New
      -5
      Quote: Splin

      Question.
      And why does this not bother Russia?

      And why should we even worry about the United States or China?
      1. Neighbor
        Neighbor 20 February 2012 11: 25 New
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        Because both of them (the USA and China) snout urinate on our resources and lands! And it’s stupid to hope that in the event of a US-China war — we manage to sit aside — we’ll find ourselves between 2 fires. I think there will be meat - worse than World War II! crying
        1. Kashaverskiy
          Kashaverskiy 20 February 2012 15: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Neighbor

          Because both of them (the USA and China) snout urinate on our resources and lands!

          "Alien versus predator. Whoever wins, we will fail" (unless we prepare properly and are not ready to give a crushing answer). If China will conduct a hostile policy, you can apply their philosophy of the monkey against them - so let the monkey (since they called themselves that) fight the United States while the bear gains strength.
      2. Splin
        Splin 20 February 2012 11: 53 New
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        Land operation is easier than landing on the coast. Hitler understood this. He also swore eternal friendship. Therefore, one should not relax, otherwise they will spoil the floor of Siberia.
        1. Ziksura
          Ziksura 20 February 2012 16: 33 New
          +5
          The population of China is 1347 million people. The population of Russia is about 143 million people. Russia / China -1 / 9,42. The EU has a population of 501 million people. The population of Ukraine is 45,665 million people. EU / Ukraine-1 / 10,97. The EU and their modern armies are combined into one peace block NATO + US ally. China army in the process of modernization - US strategic rival. Over the past decade, EU armies have not come out of wars where they are the aggressor. China during this period is white and fluffy. TVD for China, you can’t imagine worse. TVD in Ukraine is close to ideal. Russia, the EU and China have nuclear weapons; Ukraine does not. Something I do not hear panic in Ukraine.
          Gunpowder is kept dry - do not even doubt it.

          They grab the floor of Siberia? As Bismarck said, the Russians will always come for their own. I am not a cheer patriot, I am just a patriot and NOT a PANICER.
          1. SSR
            SSR 20 February 2012 16: 51 New
            +3
            Well, yes .. according to Bismarck so ... but again the question arises: at what cost?
            Aloizych also pretended to be a lamb ... China .. too crowded .. what can I say if only their internal migration is about 200-300 million people a year.
            Personally, I didn’t trust them, I don’t trust and I won’t trust them ... they are talking about the horrors that the Japs were doing ... and how, ten years earlier, they attacked our border guards in Asia ..
            PS.
            IMHA. everything in the world can change in one month ....
            while we sharpen our weapons .... the "fur-bearing animal" can trample Pandemic.
            1. ikrut
              ikrut 20 February 2012 17: 58 New
              +2
              "Too overpopulated"? 36th place in the world. Then we need to fear more Britain, Italy, Japan and even Belgium.

              This is not a determining factor at all. And not even paramount. IMHO.
            2. savelij
              savelij 20 February 2012 23: 48 New
              -9
              The agreements on the gradual transfer of the Far East and Siberia to China have already been signed by Putin and Medvedev. The implementation of these agreements has begun. Within the next less than ten years, the Eastern territories of Russia will be transferred to Chinese business, settled by the Chinese and de facto transferred to the control of China.

              In parallel with the arrival of several million Chinese workers over the next eight years to develop the Eastern Territories, their families will arrive with them, and a service infrastructure will be created. Shops, cafes, workshops, etc., serving the Chinese workers, and not only workers. In terms of breeding, Chinese immigrants in the eastern territories of Russia will not be restrained by the laws of China on one child. Already, many Chinese are settling in Russia, including under the influence of this reason. Thus, the number of Chinese will exceed the number of Slavs (of whom about 9 million people live there today) long before 2018 (the year of the end of the aforementioned Cooperation Agreement with China).

              Have you seen Russians in this scheme ?! Russians simply do not have a place in this program for the development of the Eastern territories. Of course, Russians will not be expelled, as in the autonomy of the North Caucasus beloved by Medvedev and Putin. Russians will not be cut out, as was done in the estate of Putin's beloved friend, Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russians simply will not have a place in the system of economic relations of Siberia and the Far East, which the Chinese will build. And the Russians will have to sell their homes and leave. This will apply, including cops and officials living in the Eastern territories. After all, such cops and officials, like Russian, are massively shot in China in specially dug trenches for this. So the question of providing them with a piece of bread in the territories developed by China will not even be raised.

              In addition to the transfer to the “development” of China's Eastern territories, the sale of Russia to the “Great Neighbor” is also going in seemingly less significant directions. At present, the Russian Government’s Energy Strategies Until 2030 project is under consideration by the Russian government, according to which the structure of oil and gas exports will be changed in favor of the eastern direction. In accordance with the document, the export of oil and oil products to Europe will be reduced, and in the east - significantly increase. Gas exports to the East will also increase.

              Oil and gas agreements with Beijing have been repeatedly criticized due to the opacity of mutual settlements. In the meantime, it is obvious that the price of hydrocarbons supplied to China will be significantly lower than in the western direction. The sensational article in “Vedomosti” “on the provision of the raw materials base of the Far East and Eastern Siberia to China” under the Cooperation Agreement until 2018 is only a surface part of the iceberg of the secret arrangements of the Russian ruling shobla, who sold the country and betrayed the Russian people, with China.
        2. ikrut
          ikrut 20 February 2012 17: 55 New
          +3
          For the next 100-200 years, Siberia is the tenth order for China.
          The first and foremost is Taiwan (the main reason for possible political instability and unstable territorial integrity).
          Further - the effective use of fertile, irrigated land (here China has so far "achievements" about half as much as even Ukraine - still work and work). There are almost no such lands in Siberia.
          About 70% of the territory of mainland China today is either not developed at all or very poorly.
          The population density of China (here it generally ranks 36th in the world) is about FOUR lower than, for example. in South Korea, which is not going to attack anyone.
          The energy crisis has not yet threatened China.
          And the nuclear weapons factor in Russia is not the last either
        3. savelij
          savelij 20 February 2012 23: 47 New
          -9
          The agreements on the gradual transfer of the Far East and Siberia to China have already been signed by Putin and Medvedev. The implementation of these agreements has begun. Within the next less than ten years, the Eastern territories of Russia will be transferred to Chinese business, settled by the Chinese and de facto transferred to the control of China.

          In parallel with the arrival of several million Chinese workers over the next eight years to develop the Eastern Territories, their families will arrive with them, and a service infrastructure will be created. Shops, cafes, workshops, etc., serving the Chinese workers, and not only workers. In terms of breeding, Chinese immigrants in the eastern territories of Russia will not be restrained by the laws of China on one child. Already, many Chinese are settling in Russia, including under the influence of this reason. Thus, the number of Chinese will exceed the number of Slavs (of whom about 9 million people live there today) long before 2018 (the year of the end of the aforementioned Cooperation Agreement with China).

          Have you seen Russians in this scheme ?! Russians simply do not have a place in this program for the development of the Eastern territories. Of course, Russians will not be expelled, as in the autonomy of the North Caucasus beloved by Medvedev and Putin. Russians will not be cut out, as was done in the estate of Putin's beloved friend, Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russians simply will not have a place in the system of economic relations of Siberia and the Far East, which the Chinese will build. And the Russians will have to sell their homes and leave. This will apply, including cops and officials living in the Eastern territories. After all, such cops and officials, like Russian, are massively shot in China in specially dug trenches for this. So the question of providing them with a piece of bread in the territories developed by China will not even be raised.

          In addition to the transfer to the “development” of China's Eastern territories, the sale of Russia to the “Great Neighbor” is also going in seemingly less significant directions. At present, the Russian Government’s Energy Strategies Until 2030 project is under consideration by the Russian government, according to which the structure of oil and gas exports will be changed in favor of the eastern direction. In accordance with the document, the export of oil and oil products to Europe will be reduced, and in the east - significantly increase. Gas exports to the East will also increase.

          Oil and gas agreements with Beijing have been repeatedly criticized due to the opacity of mutual settlements. In the meantime, it is obvious that the price of hydrocarbons supplied to China will be significantly lower than in the western direction. The sensational article in “Vedomosti” “on the provision of the raw materials base of the Far East and Eastern Siberia to China” under the Cooperation Agreement until 2018 is only a surface part of the iceberg of the secret arrangements of the Russian ruling shobla, who sold the country and betrayed the Russian people, with China.
          1. Altergo
            Altergo 29 March 2012 10: 41 New
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            Like a lie repeated 100 times becomes true?
      3. Tram boom
        Tram boom 21 February 2012 19: 21 New
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        Because it threatens OUR security!
    3. savelij
      savelij 20 February 2012 23: 46 New
      -9
      The agreements on the gradual transfer of the Far East and Siberia to China have already been signed by Putin and Medvedev. The implementation of these agreements has begun. Within the next less than ten years, the Eastern territories of Russia will be transferred to Chinese business, settled by the Chinese and de facto transferred to the control of China.

      In parallel with the arrival of several million Chinese workers over the next eight years to develop the Eastern Territories, their families will arrive with them, and a service infrastructure will be created. Shops, cafes, workshops, etc., serving the Chinese workers, and not only workers. In terms of breeding, Chinese immigrants in the eastern territories of Russia will not be restrained by the laws of China on one child. Already, many Chinese are settling in Russia, including under the influence of this reason. Thus, the number of Chinese will exceed the number of Slavs (of whom about 9 million people live there today) long before 2018 (the year of the end of the aforementioned Cooperation Agreement with China).

      Have you seen Russians in this scheme ?! Russians simply do not have a place in this program for the development of the Eastern territories. Of course, Russians will not be expelled, as in the autonomy of the North Caucasus beloved by Medvedev and Putin. Russians will not be cut out, as was done in the estate of Putin's beloved friend, Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russians simply will not have a place in the system of economic relations of Siberia and the Far East, which the Chinese will build. And the Russians will have to sell their homes and leave. This will apply, including cops and officials living in the Eastern territories. After all, such cops and officials, like Russian, are massively shot in China in specially dug trenches for this. So the question of providing them with a piece of bread in the territories developed by China will not even be raised.

      In addition to the transfer to the “development” of China's Eastern territories, the sale of Russia to the “Great Neighbor” is also going in seemingly less significant directions. At present, the Russian Government’s Energy Strategies Until 2030 project is under consideration by the Russian government, according to which the structure of oil and gas exports will be changed in favor of the eastern direction. In accordance with the document, the export of oil and oil products to Europe will be reduced, and in the east - significantly increase. Gas exports to the East will also increase.

      Oil and gas agreements with Beijing have been repeatedly criticized due to the opacity of mutual settlements. In the meantime, it is obvious that the price of hydrocarbons supplied to China will be significantly lower than in the western direction. The sensational article in “Vedomosti” “on the provision of the raw materials base of the Far East and Eastern Siberia to China” under the Cooperation Agreement until 2018 is only a surface part of the iceberg of the secret arrangements of the Russian ruling shobla, who sold the country and betrayed the Russian people, with China.
      1. Bear52
        Bear52 21 February 2012 22: 33 New
        +1
        savelij, you post in 3 copies to collect more cons? From me - please! "-"
        1. Altergo
          Altergo 29 March 2012 10: 42 New
          0
          I totally agree.
    4. savelij
      savelij 21 February 2012 03: 08 New
      -7
      Vrag u vorot!
  2. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 20 February 2012 11: 52 New
    +2
    Russia should not be worried at all ....... US attention is distracted by the growing power of the Armed Forces of China, Russia has the opportunity to have time to rearm its army .....
    And the article clearly exaggerates the combat capabilities of Chinese submarines, J-20, etc.
    1. black_eagle
      black_eagle 20 February 2012 12: 16 New
      +1
      I totally agree! What does the J-20 is a raw glider and not a serial combat aircraft
  3. dred
    dred 20 February 2012 13: 03 New
    0
    It should be quietly squatted. While China and America are clawing.
  4. 755962
    755962 20 February 2012 13: 15 New
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    The Pentagon has information on the construction of new submarines in the PRC, on the modernization of missile forces and nuclear weapons.
    I hope our GSH also has such information, and therefore it would be nice to build up an air defense group in the Far East, but what is going on with us? In 2003, China ordered 16 divisions of the more advanced S-300PMU2 Favorit, which were first offered by Russia to the international arms market in 2001. The contract value amounted to 960 million dollars. The order included 64 PU 5P85SE2 / DE2 and 256 SAM 48N6E2. The first 8 divisions were delivered to the customer in 2007, the next 8 - this year. The improved complex can fire at the same time 6 air targets at ranges up to 200 km and altitudes up to 27 km. With the adoption of these systems, China for the first time received limited capabilities to intercept ballistic missiles at ranges up to 40 km.
    1. Kashaverskiy
      Kashaverskiy 20 February 2012 16: 10 New
      +1
      There is an idea to sell weapons with "bookmarks" to the PRC. As the West does ("you have to be equal to it," as some believe :)) - here are the Western air defense systems sold to Iraq (mostly French, since the French were selling equipment to Saddam) "suddenly" went crazy in 1991, as once during a desert storm operation, which is no coincidence ... If the PRC pursues a hostile policy, moreover,
      just copy things without particularly getting into shape, then you can sell with bookmarks (maybe instead of bookmarks copy wink , joke, they are not so stupid, but all the same, the bookmarks will be difficult to find), and if a conflict begins against the US, then knock out their air defense, if they do not find the bookmarks and remove them. And if there is a conflict with the United States, then of course, we will not do anything ... True, one should not accuse Russia of treachery - if China itself behaved honestly, did not steal, would not covet Siberia, then Russia's actions could be assessed as a betrayal, and since they themselves behave this way, then "as you want people to treat you, so you treat them." If China behaved normally, then Russia would have to behave accordingly. And if the PRC is playing a secret unfriendly game, then Russia's response will also be appropriate.
      1. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 20 February 2012 16: 46 New
        +8
        How would we not sell "Mistrals" with bookmarks ... wink .... but it may also turn out bad ..... crying
        1. nmd_1
          nmd_1 21 February 2012 08: 32 New
          +1
          Mistrals with gray plugs like corks in a bathroom. :) And on "Lynx" the wheels will fall off, what else did you want to buy from us?
  5. ole
    ole 20 February 2012 13: 36 New
    +4
    All against Russia, the Amers dream of making an orange revolution, and the Chinese have already reached their peasants, builders and other sheluponi in our Far East.
  6. Dmitry.V
    Dmitry.V 20 February 2012 20: 47 New
    -1
    The United States is no longer pulled into the arms race because it is unlikely that it will be able to print its pieces of paper at the same pace, and if pulled in, it could ruin China by pushing for a class gap.
    In the war, as described above, we will be between 2 fires, it all depends on the government to remain neutral will not work.
    If we take the side of China ... China, with our technology, a huge population and no longer weak weapons, is a really formidable rival, you can stop it only with the help of nuclear weapons as I think.
    If we take the side of the United States, I don’t know how it is, although what’s there from whom the oligarchs will get more for that side and we will ...
    We can pit the USA and China with each other, but all the same we will be between a rock and a hard place.
    Such a situation altogether changed the world completely, and this is where we need to react and be prepared for much.
  7. dok
    dok 20 February 2012 21: 42 New
    +1
    You have to work! Something by 2050 or 2020 or 2013 doesn’t matter when ... Be prepared. You don’t get ready for everything, but you should not relax.
  8. Reddragon
    Reddragon 20 February 2012 22: 00 New
    0
    That's what, and amers need to fear more for markets and do not forget about their debt. If China overthrows the dollar, then the yuan can take its place and no war is needed.
  9. Serjant
    Serjant 21 February 2012 00: 13 New
    +3
    It is not entirely correct to compare the military budgets of the USA and China ... In the first case, development and supply are carried out by commercial firms, in the second, mainly by state-owned enterprises.
    What is the difference? In the states, the company that received the defense order "raises" profits much more than in a similar "civilian" tender. Therefore, there "keep" a whole staff of lobbyists who promote the manufacturer at all levels ... from scientific institutions to Congress. In China, the state buys mainly from itself, which is much cheaper!
    At one time, they specially compared ... an ordinary diode, which goes "to civil" science in the states, cost, say, 50 cents. A similar diode with exactly the same characteristics in the American defense industry already cost almost $ 7!
    That's where corruption is! winked
    1. Danloff
      Danloff 21 February 2012 01: 35 New
      +4
      I support! Do not forget that the defense budget includes the salaries of military personnel, and the salary in the USA is higher than in China and not 2 times, this is obvious. And besides, in the USA the equipment is more expensive than in China. We also take into account the fact that the budget includes military expenses for maintaining bases abroad. As a result, in general, the budgets are the same, it's just that the prices are different, and China does not (or does it have?) Such large-scale military campaigns abroad, for which it is necessary to allocate not millions, but billions of dollars, tens of billions.
    2. Bear52
      Bear52 21 February 2012 22: 35 New
      0
      That's interesting, if true! Do not respect the reference? wink
  10. Tenok
    Tenok 21 February 2012 06: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Splin
    Land operation is easier than landing on the coast. Hitler understood this. He also swore eternal friendship. Therefore, one should not relax, otherwise they will spoil the floor of Siberia.

    First, China spoils Mongolia, then half of Kazakhstan, and then we can get to Siberia.
  11. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 21 February 2012 15: 03 New
    0
    There is such a funny thing as a neutron bomb. And for fast neutrons it doesn’t matter how many soldiers the enemy has and how many tanks he has (so that they won’t reach Siberia ...
    1. Bear52
      Bear52 21 February 2012 22: 37 New
      0
      Nah! It hurts a lot, it won’t ride! am
      1. viruskvartirus
        viruskvartirus 22 February 2012 01: 58 New
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        That's why it was created .... but expensive) yes expensive, but I think there are enough charges.
  12. Jrvin
    Jrvin 21 February 2012 16: 05 New
    +2
    I live in the Trans-Baikal Territory, and I see what kind of defense we have here ... if China starts to advance, they will reach Baikal without even stopping ... There used to be a whole defensive line on the border with China, now it does not exist ... although it is not and the Chinese. China will not fight against us ... it’s too painful for them to understand that if we play it, it won’t seem a little ... but it’s a shame for the defense ... and it’s scary to be honest ... the only tank unit in Peshchanka ... and that’s obsolete t-72 ...
  13. Норд
    Норд 21 February 2012 17: 04 New
    +2
    China is even too early to equal the United States in military technology; they themselves understand this. But in computer technologies, but simply in the hacker potential, the sons of the celestial states wiped their nose. According to published data, China’s hackers more than a dozen times cracked the databases of the Pentagon, the State Department, the CIA, etc. For just one attack, the estimated damage is $ 380 million. Please note that there is a special center for computer technologies (military hackers) as part of the GSA PLA. Now imagine what will happen with a massive attack on command and control centers, satellite communications and positioning systems, city life support systems and then down the list? In a word, the states have something to fear.
  14. crusader
    crusader 2 March 2012 18: 18 New
    0
    it will be very interesting))))
  15. rock09
    rock09 4 August 2012 13: 46 New
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    it looks like there will be a "cold war" again, but only with China and the United States. Which side will Russia choose in this case?
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