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Ukraine complains about US ammunition for snipers APU

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The United States shipped sniper cartridges to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard under units, which, as it turned out, do not show those qualities, as it was supposed, and, in the words of the Ukrainian military, “devour” the rifle barrels.
The problems were clarified after the first period of use of ammunition. It turned out that the bullets "devour" the barrels of rifles, worse in accuracy than those that Ukraine buys itself, the cores of the armor-piercing bullets "just crumble" when they come into contact with the armor, reports "Sight" message of the military observer and director of Defense Express Sergey Zgurts with reference to the Ukrainian military.


Ukraine complains about US ammunition for snipers APU


We are talking about four-caliber ammunition purchased from the American company SBR: for standard army SVD - NXXXXXXXMX mm cartridges, for foreign-made rifles - 7,62X54mm and 7,62X51 mm (.8,58) ammunition Lapua Magnum, 70XXHHXX338 mm (.12,7) Lapua Magnum, 99XXHHNHXNNXX mm (.XNUMX) Lapua Magnum, XNUMXXXHHNHXNUMX mm (.XNUMX) Lapua Magnum, XNUMXXXHHNXX mm NXXXXNUMX mm.
When shooting ammunition, problems with shooting accuracy were found, and only some of the new ammunition could penetrate the 6-mm steel plate, that is, body armor of the 4 protection class. At the same time, modern armor piercing bullets must pierce 10-mm armor.

Zgurets notes that armor-piercing ammunition shipped from the US has worse armor penetration characteristics than the Soviet B32 cartridge in a smaller caliber.

In addition, the purchased cartridges were not sealed - water was passed into the liner and the powder was wetted.

Recall, Ukraine is experiencing an acute shortage of ammunition. So, at the end of April, the head of the National Police of Ukraine, Sergey Knyazev, stated that unless the funding of his department is urgently increased, the police will remain in May - without ammunition. arms.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 May 2017 16: 07
    +30
    And APU apparently thought that only they could sell idle systems ... or patented this way of trading?
    It would be nice if these lyricons had not only defective bullets ...
    1. The black
      The black 3 May 2017 16: 09
      +31
      Let them rejoice that they do not burst in the bore .... parasites laughing Looks like they still do not understand what they are holding for a worthless herd, which shit will come down.
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 3 May 2017 16: 18
        +16
        Offset! They would still have bent trunks, from which I would generally neigh.)))
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 3 May 2017 16: 32
          +11
          Quote: hirurg
          Offset! They would have bent trunks,

          With a sawn fly. laughing
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 May 2017 17: 39
            +15
            It turned out that the bullets “eat” the rifle trunks, worse in accuracy than the fact that Ukraine buys itself, the cores of armor-piercing bullets “just crumble” in contact with the armor,

            And why were you so excited? That's when the musketons start to steam them, and then it will be necessary to begin to worry. So far, nothing surprising has happened.
            .
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 3 May 2017 17: 45
              +6
              what are you (with) laughing original cooler cooling design wassat

            2. Lukich
              Lukich 3 May 2017 18: 07
              +1
              Quote: Monos
              So far, nothing surprising has happened.
            3. Lukich
              Lukich 3 May 2017 18: 09
              +7
              Quote: Monos
              That's when the musketons start

      2. Alex_1973
        Alex_1973 3 May 2017 16: 19
        +20
        The cunning Europeans complain that they were shod with even more cunning mattresses ...? laughing Original You give even more mattress cartridges, so that the output of all their trunks increases, so that they explode right in the hands when trying to shell civilians ...
        1. rpek32
          rpek32 3 May 2017 16: 39
          +1
          then they will buy rifles
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 3 May 2017 16: 43
          +9
          Quote: Alex_1973
          The cunning Europeans complain that they were shod with even more cunning mattresses ...?

          What were they waiting for? Savages do not give first-rate things - the trash will come down.
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 3 May 2017 18: 15
            +3
            Quote: Gray Brother
            What were they waiting for? Savages do not give first-rate things - the trash will come down.

            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 3 May 2017 19: 08
              +2
              Quote: Lukich
              What were they waiting for? Savages do not give first-rate things - the trash will come down.

              Yes, there was also a bazaar for the fleet, Ukrainians opened their mouths to the written-off patrolmen, so the youngest pelvis had already turned 45 years old - the Americans had recently given one to Vietnam.
              Also trash for the poor natives.
          2. Crucian
            Crucian 4 May 2017 07: 22
            0
            Do not insult the Papuans in the photo - they are several orders of magnitude more developed and nobler than dill!
        3. doubovitski
          doubovitski 3 May 2017 19: 04
          0
          Quote: Alex_1973
          The cunning Europeans complain that they were shod with even more cunning mattresses ...? laughing Original You give even more mattress cartridges, so that the output of all their trunks increases, so that they explode right in the hands when trying to shell civilians ...

          It seems that Putin managed to inherit in this matter.
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      4. Slovak
        Slovak 3 May 2017 19: 38
        0
        The thing is different - the FSA supply lethal weapons and ammunition. The EU drives all the old Soviet equipment, albeit of little use, but it is also lethal. Presumably, the hands of the Russian Federation are untied and you can test everything new in the conditions of real b / action. It’s good that people will not suffer, only dill
      5. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 3 May 2017 19: 47
        +1
        Quote: Black
        Let them rejoice that they do not burst in the bore ...

        Excuse me, colleague, do not tell me that in the pool it can rupture in the barrel?
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 3 May 2017 23: 36
          +1
          what in a pool can rupture in a bore?

          Maybe 14.5 mm MDZ? If without an equalizer they can shoot when poked.
    2. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 3 May 2017 16: 25
      +8
      Not surprisingly, I remember the United States, Argentina, too, did not explode air bombs and missiles delivered .. (otherwise it would have been tight nuggle-saxons during the conflict on the Falkland Islands)
      1. cost
        cost 3 May 2017 17: 13
        +2
        and Soviet stocks that have already run out?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 3 May 2017 17: 47
          +16
          and Soviet stocks that have already run out?


          there recently in the warehouse was decommunization with lustration laughing
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 3 May 2017 17: 52
            +6
            Quote: c-Petrov
            and Soviet stocks that have already run out?

            there recently in the warehouse was decommunization with lustration laughing

            They cleaned everything up for sale, but the throne and powder factories in LDNR all remained! wassat And the coal too ... We will wait when they give up. soldier
          2. AID.S
            AID.S 3 May 2017 18: 07
            0
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            there recently in the warehouse was decommunization with lustration

            and with illumination ...
          3. cost
            cost 3 May 2017 18: 07
            +1
            rich: and Soviet stocks that have already run out?
            c. Petrov: there recently in the warehouse was decommunization with lustration

            They would simply take them and rename them, and all business, why decommunize? winked
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 3 May 2017 17: 52
      +1
      Putin replaced cartridges laughing
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 3 May 2017 18: 45
        0
        Ukraine is experiencing an acute shortage of ammunition. So, at the end of April, the head of the National Police of Ukraine Sergey Knyazev said that if funding for his department was not urgently increased, the police would remain in May without cartridges for service weapons.
        But bow and arrow for what?
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 3 May 2017 22: 36
      0
      When the Tomahawks sell ukram, it means they wrote off the missiles (before that). without disposal.
      Will they take off themselves?
    5. gukoyan
      gukoyan 4 May 2017 09: 32
      0
      They even have brains defective ...
  2. newcomer
    newcomer 3 May 2017 16: 09
    +4
    hah, class! But did they think they would buy Amer cartridges and kapets? interesting comparison with our, Soviet, patrons_ know ours!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 3 May 2017 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      hah, class! But did they think they would buy Amer cartridges and kapets? interesting comparison with our, Soviet, patrons_ know ours!

      The United States delivered sniper ammunition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, which, as it turned out, did not show those qualities as expected, and, in the words of the Ukrainian military, “devour” rifle barrels .............. ...........................
      ........................................... there is not only the matter of cartridges, and probably the trunks are raw. Soviet SVD sold to Africa, and now they are looking for the extreme, everything is always in kuev.
      1. avg-mgn
        avg-mgn 3 May 2017 17: 28
        +1
        They do not like Soviet trunks. NATO ammunition - there is no VP mark on them.
      2. Gavrila
        Gavrila 3 May 2017 19: 24
        +2
        this is called non-lethal weapon ....
      3. newcomer
        newcomer 3 May 2017 20: 54
        +3
        yes, somewhere like that.
  3. 3vs
    3vs 3 May 2017 16: 13
    +1
    Naglosaksa for horses on Aliexpress order! laughing
  4. Black_PR
    Black_PR 3 May 2017 16: 15
    +1
    The pacifists made these bullets. Under the motto "Farewell to arms."
  5. soroKING
    soroKING 3 May 2017 16: 15
    0
    on those god we are not good wassat
  6. pjastolov
    pjastolov 3 May 2017 16: 16
    +11
    Mattresses - Respect. They gave a loan and slipped substandard under it !! hi laughing
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 3 May 2017 17: 28
      +7
      Nothing personal just business. And Our people in Hollywood.
  7. sgapich
    sgapich 3 May 2017 16: 17
    +4
    Smile and wave. I do not eat popcorn, but good crackers (thoroughly grated with garlic) stock)))
  8. erudite 017
    erudite 017 3 May 2017 16: 17
    +6
    what meanness, well, no one respects the country of 404! what again the zrada lads?

    do not know how to use svidomye here is the instruction!
    1. san4es
      san4es 3 May 2017 16: 55
      +12
      yes ... and musket cartridges fellow :

      ... overwhelmed ...
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 3 May 2017 20: 54
        +2
        Quote: san4es
        ... and musket cartridges

        and the story of the "cartridges"
  9. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 3 May 2017 16: 17
    +7
    I hope the fenders themselves have the same cartridges
  10. behemot
    behemot 3 May 2017 16: 22
    +2
    Well sho happened again? The Kremlin’s hand again? Again zrada (or peremoga? I am not strong in this pseudo-language)?
    Friends threw Ukraine overseas. Well, nothing happens. Not all Ukrainians do not pay debts.
  11. K-50
    K-50 3 May 2017 16: 28
    +5
    armor-piercing ammunition delivered from the United States has the characteristics of armor penetration worse than that of the Soviet B32 cartridge in a smaller caliber.

    Well and good, Novorossia will have less losses. good
  12. yehat
    yehat 3 May 2017 16: 31
    +3
    they trade with the Ukrainians, as with the Papuans - they supply all r
    And the Ukrainians themselves built such an image, so go ahead, download another one, the next time explosions in the barrel will begin at all.
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 May 2017 16: 31
    +1
    So in the US, too, Svidomo live! wassat
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 May 2017 17: 16
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      So in the US, too, Svidomo live!

      So Biden didn’t get out of urkaina. In the process, he caught a Svidomo infection and dragged him across the ocean. There, now, too, everyone is thinking how to “heat” someone, to fool and steal. Shoved the marriage, for good money)))
  14. masiya
    masiya 3 May 2017 16: 32
    +2
    Well, they’ve shod so shod, by and large, if it is up to you to shoot yourself and with such ammunition you can ...
  15. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 3 May 2017 16: 58
    +1
    Bachili och, schu kupulya, zhzhte, want to rule. © laughing
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 May 2017 17: 02
    +1
    Something strange, SBR AMMUNITION is considered a decent company.
    As a rule, American cartridges are high-quality, better than
    Israeli or Czech ...
    Maybe they, on the contrary, have guns screwed up? Do not clean the trunks?
    1. cost
      cost 3 May 2017 17: 16
      +5
      How is it not cleaned? On the contrary, they clean it every day. The sand. What would shine
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 3 May 2017 17: 51
        +5
        Quote: Rich
        How is it not cleaned? On the contrary, they clean it every day. The sand. What would shine

        With brick! smile
    2. faridg7
      faridg7 3 May 2017 17: 28
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Something strange, SBR AMMUNITION is considered a decent company.
      As a rule, American cartridges are high-quality, better than
      Israeli or Czech ...
      Maybe they, on the contrary, have guns screwed up? Do not clean the trunks?

      As a rule, American cartridges are bought and not free. In the form of charity, they could well have shipped the party from the landfill
    3. avg-mgn
      avg-mgn 3 May 2017 17: 33
      +1
      A manufacturing defect also costs money, but how much did it cost to dispose of - did you count? This is a business, nothing personal.
    4. Berkut24
      Berkut24 3 May 2017 20: 30
      0
      And the British do not clean their guns with brick !!! (with)
      1. Sergey Kranov
        Sergey Kranov 4 May 2017 14: 21
        0
        For Berkut24: I. Strelkov / Girkin / veteran of 4 wars / in Chechnya he was an ordinary artilleryman /, gentleman of the Order of Courage, and you, dear, which orders do you have?
    5. Maz
      Maz 3 May 2017 21: 08
      +1
      And maybe you need to get a gesheft and put as much as possible ukronaroda on the battlefield, after all, is it not a pity for the goyim and is allowed to use ravas? Gesheft - Jewish tradition, ask anyone on the Ozeryok ... or goofy, but better at the hecikhins, they promise another rise in prices for food and persecution of Dutch journalists "A new way to improve the image of Israel: attempts to censor foreign media by the State Press Bureau (LAAM), which is part of the office of the head of government "- The Glory of Democracy. And you’re talking about some cartridges there. What nonsense. Who owns this company?
    6. Maz
      Maz 3 May 2017 21: 19
      +1
      And why are you forbidden to shoot bursts in the army from the American ruzhbanov of the Warrior? That's why both ammunition and grenades of the wrong system from a "decent company"
  17. Zulu_S
    Zulu_S 3 May 2017 17: 05
    +4
    "... Pass on to His Majesty, in England guns are not cleaned with bricks ..."
    Its production is about .. fukali.
  18. Kibl
    Kibl 3 May 2017 17: 10
    +2
    His Majesty "kickback" rules the ball, I imagine how someone has welded on these cartridges!
  19. lightning
    lightning 3 May 2017 17: 15
    0
    Probably sold normal trunks, but to write them off, they all fell on cartridges, they say that only yesterday this barrel was brand new, and now this is what happened to it. Bad, bad bullets.
  20. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 3 May 2017 17: 17
    0
    thief bent thief? Bravo mattresses. We have not seen such a circus for a long time. So they need it. Stop the war against our own people.
  21. sancho
    sancho 3 May 2017 17: 20
    0
    heirs of ostap bender cheers mattresses nothing personal just a business !!!
  22. siemens7774
    siemens7774 3 May 2017 17: 24
    +3
    Quote: seregatara1969
    I hope the fenders themselves have the same cartridges

    Hopefully. Of 10 pieces, 2-4 pieces of marriage. Fingers are a little difficult, but pulled out bullets from a sleeve. Or even went without gunpowder. Sometimes out of 100 pieces, 7-18 marriages came out. And this is for a Barrett sniper rifle like these:
  23. Catherine II
    Catherine II 3 May 2017 17: 30
    +11
    Ukraine complains about American cartridges for APU snipers [

    For starters, it is best to use the source.
    Defense Express is a good source with the ability to read in Russian (there are true translation flaws)
    Let's start.
    https://defence-ua.com/index.php/statti/2831-chto
    -stoit-za-zakupkoj-amerikanskikh-patronov-dlya-uk
    rainskikh-snajperov
    The United States shipped sniper cartridges to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard under units, which, as it turned out, do not show those qualities, as it was supposed, and, in the words of the Ukrainian military, “devour” the rifle barrels.

    In the original source
    WHAT DOES THE PURCHASING OF AMERICAN CARTRIDGES FOR UKRAINIAN SNIPERS PERFORMANCE?
    We read what it is about
    To equip the power structures of Ukraine, foreign sniper cartridges were purchased and quickly delivered to units of the army and the National Guard
    The article has evidence of this kind.
    When shooting the ammunition that was purchased from the American company SBR, their accuracy was clearly not "NATO". In the calibers 7,62 and .338, it amounted to 2 MOA, for 12,7 mm the indicator was even worse. “When shooting from the same rifles using ammunition, roughly speaking, the“ sport-hunting ”category, which are bought by the military for their money, our snipers ensure accuracy from these barrels in the 0,5 MOA. So it's nothing personal, ”my interlocutors claimed. The bullets of all the ammunition purchased are made of brass. All-metal bullets produced by stamping or turning. Analysis of the metal showed that the zinc content in the brass of the bullets is about 28%, respectively, the remaining 72% is copper. The experts with whom he spoke said: “In the west, material with a copper content of at least 90% is used for bullets. An alloy with less copper in an all-metal pool has one negative property: the bullet is hard. During firing, such a stamped bullet significantly reduces the resource of a sniper rifle barrel. If the resource of the barrel of a sniper weapon is on average about 6 thousand shots, then when firing with cartridges with such bullets it will be only about 1 thousand shots. At the same time, in order to clean out the barrel after firing with these cartridges one must try hard. ”It is possible that for the manufacture of all-metal bullets, the metal used for shells could also be used. At the same time, there is no marking on the shells themselves, which would confirm their compliance with the military standard.

    Sergey correctly raises the problem. Describes it (even from the political side). But VO only gets what the Look printed .... and it printed less and more from the point of view of the information war.
    Only now, when compiling news on VO, it would be necessary to take the source, and not the reprint of Russian media. Because for the media, only the moment was cut out (a complaint about quality), and all the nuances of a military nature that VO was famous for were not included in the article for ordinary media (but it is understandable, the average man rarely understands the details)
    But it turns out that VO, instead of a detailed analysis of the original source’s article, is limited to reprinting VIEW (not a specialized source on military topics)?
    I have no words ... This is at least wrong.
    From myself-Defense Express is a normal source of military subjects. This is something like Ukrainian VO, only without discussion (there is no audience like that in VO). And if you take the articles of this source, it is better in the original, without changing the Look, Rusvesna and other dubious gaskets that change the information on military topics (they simply do not convey it)
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 3 May 2017 19: 25
      +2
      Ekaterina, thank you for the information provided from the source. Indeed, the media in ALL countries are interested in speed, the rush is justified only with an upset stomach, and the speed does not get along with accuracy. Glance is no exception and counts on the average layman.
      Accept a compliment: for a woman you are advanced, as a rule women are interested in other sites
      1. jjj
        jjj 3 May 2017 19: 59
        +2
        For some reason, I thought that our trunks can work with Western “soft” bullets, as they are, but western trunks do not tolerate our tougher bullets. And here is the exact opposite situation.
  24. Orionvit
    Orionvit 3 May 2017 17: 54
    0
    the police will remain in May - without ammunition for service weapons.
    It turns out that the Ukrainian police are conducting full-scale military operations? Since when has the police use ammunition such that funding needs to be increased?
    1. pjastolov
      pjastolov 3 May 2017 18: 17
      +5
      Nunaprimer in Odessa before the anniversary of the "exercise" held angry
  25. jurijsv
    jurijsv 3 May 2017 17: 56
    +3
    A familiar story. Back in the years of the Civil War, the Anglicos “helped” the White Guard by supplying defective weapons and ammunition. All repeats. The Anglo-Saxons were never friends to anyone.
  26. Yngvar
    Yngvar 3 May 2017 18: 18
    0
    Traded the latest MiGs and Dryers for bullshit! Here are the "wise men" ...
  27. Mwg
    Mwg 3 May 2017 18: 21
    0
    And what? On the other hand, the same liberalists work, they earn money ...
  28. Galan
    Galan 3 May 2017 18: 23
    0
    Khokhlam always interfere with dancing eggs. Zrada, one zrada around!
  29. Ibn shamai
    Ibn shamai 3 May 2017 18: 45
    +1
    Normal move! Now they’ll buy trunks for rifles, after the third shot! Are they giving them loans in vain? Business!
  30. Pacifist
    Pacifist 3 May 2017 18: 53
    +2
    Let Argentina ask about the quality of American ammunition. She can tell them a lot about Americans and their quality ... the truth is that from what they will say, only interjections will be censored, but South American expressively and vividly.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 May 2017 20: 18
      0
      Bomb fuses must be set up and the bombs themselves periodically tested in exercises.
      If this is not done, then there will be problems in the war. wink
      1. Maz
        Maz 3 May 2017 21: 15
        +3
        It’s you about those bombs that thirty percent of them didn’t explode in the Lebanon war, and which the Americans put to you \, and their "tokef" expired and it was necessary to free arsenals, but in Lebanon and the land was full of Israeli unexploded bombs from good , a caring and peaceful neighbor
  31. Monarchist
    Monarchist 3 May 2017 19: 10
    0
    By God, eccentrics: they decided that if made in USA-quality guarantee. And mazuriks and hack workers and across the ocean will be mazuriks and hack workers.
    I know from fiction and heard on TV: our full-time trilinear cartridges issued in the Second World War at specialized factories and non-specialized are very different.
    And then some SBR company launched the production of cartridges of various systems and calibres ... "In addition, the purchased cartridges were not airtight - they pass water into the cartridge case and the powder dampens"
    This SBR thinks like: not yourself and okay. It’s good if the buyer is solid, and with this *** anyone will come down "
  32. Monarchist
    Monarchist 3 May 2017 19: 13
    0
    Quote: Orionvit
    the police will remain in May - without ammunition for service weapons.
    It turns out that the Ukrainian police are conducting full-scale military operations? Since when has the police use ammunition such that funding needs to be increased?

    And they shoot at ravens and lack of ammunition, or maybe they haggle?
  33. Gavrila
    Gavrila 3 May 2017 19: 20
    +1
    Order

    Warrant Officer Postochaylo D.T. to assign an extraordinary rank.

    Supreme
  34. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 3 May 2017 21: 18
    0
    This is how Americans understand the difference between “lethal” and non-lethal: non-lethal ones fly worse and destroy the gunner’s weapons.
  35. Igor Anatolievich
    Igor Anatolievich 3 May 2017 22: 39
    +1
    The leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is likely to steal insolently money intended for the purchase of sniper weapons and special ammunition. Most likely they buy decommissioned barrels and ancient ammunition, such practice from American curators to sack illiquid assets and rubbish to their own wards and receive profit, interest for specially granted loans for the purchase of "weapons" and even receive "kickbacks" from corrupt Ukrainian officials. Walk on the Internet video where it crumbles when shooting, worn out, but sold, at the price of a new ame Rami-weapons, grenade launchers explode and other bad cases. The American military has very decent small arms, optics and thermal imagers for it, high-quality ammunition, and any scrap can be used for any scrap
  36. Music
    Music 3 May 2017 22: 46
    +1
    When not only rifles are sank, the war will go to a peace treaty.
  37. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 4 May 2017 01: 01
    +7
    No wonder. This "good" was bought in China. Brought "on a curve" type from the states. Delivered for normal such grandmas (taking into account all interests).
    Well, the fact that they don’t shoot ..
    Well Duc eda, guys, did you order cartridges? We brought you ...
    AND? It was necessary what good quality? Well, they would immediately say!
    About the fact that you are going to shoot them, there was no conversation!
  38. Kir Aish
    Kir Aish 4 May 2017 01: 02
    0
    What for Khokhlam cartridges? For wild jumpers, even slingshots are contraindicated.
    - To shoot bullets from cherries, it will be just right.
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  40. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 4 May 2017 03: 48
    0
    Check it out !!! they also fly on the basis of the tamahawk.
  41. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 4 May 2017 04: 58
    +2
    So stop fighting.
  42. Turgon
    Turgon 4 May 2017 05: 00
    +1
    Yes, no Ukrainians exchanged good cartridges for bacon, and now Americans hang noodles on mustaches.
  43. Aleks713
    Aleks713 4 May 2017 05: 01
    0
    Quote: "sniper cartridges ... in the words of the Ukrainian military," eat "the rifle trunks."
    Again, the omnipotent Putin is spoiling his magic ...
    All the Bandera is not thank God ...
  44. Crucian
    Crucian 4 May 2017 07: 24
    0
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    and the potron and powder factories in LDNR all remained!

    By the way, it’s interesting, but do they work in LDNR now?
  45. Shukshin
    Shukshin 4 May 2017 10: 31
    +1
    Ukrainians constantly complain, they are all few, everything is bad. If in Ukraine people complain, they are Ukrainians, if they do not complain, but work, they are separatists.
  46. NordUral
    NordUral 4 May 2017 14: 10
    0
    Hollywood cartridges slipped it to you guys.
  47. medvedron
    medvedron 4 May 2017 14: 36
    0
    Apparently the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not know about this, since the last few days have been beating out everything that shoots, without even thinking about saving.
  48. Dmitry Keldar
    Dmitry Keldar 4 May 2017 18: 41
    0
    "The police will remain in May - without ammunition for service weapons." I wonder what do the Khokhlyatsky cops do that their cartridges flow like a river? :) Or is it for freedom and democracy?