The United States intends to create a new tank M1A2 SEP v4 Abrams to 2020 year

The United States intends to create a new tank M1A2 SEP v4 Abrams - fast, well-protected, equipped with new equipment and more effective weapons. Already, American experts call this car just supertank. Meanwhile, the Russian Armata and the Chinese Type 99 tank made the US think about the need for such equipment.
True, as the American publication The National Interest reports, the new Abrams, which should confront them, may appear no earlier than the 2020s. And although the information about it tank kept secret, still managed to find out something, reports "Russian newspaper"

It is assumed that the machine will be used sights of the new generation and advanced sensors, cameras and electronics. The new equipment will allow to get a better image of the target at long distances, even with such visual disturbances as rain, fog or dust.

archive photo: M1A2 SEP v3 Abrams

Also, special equipment will provide an opportunity to better recognize the light and heat sources of enemy devices or equipment. And meteorological sensors will allow you to quickly adapt to changing weather conditions or combat conditions.
As the newspaper notes, M1A2 SEP v4 will use multi-purpose 120-millimeter broad-spectrum ammunition that can replace the four types of shells. In addition, it is planned to increase the power and mobility of the machine, improve its armor, upgrade engines and transmissions. It is also expected that the updated Abrams will receive an advanced tracking system of friendly and enemy forces using GPS technology.

The National Interest writes that the car will be equipped with a system of active protection, allowing to identify, track and destroy the approaching enemy ammunition within milliseconds.

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

This is not a new tank, but a deep modernization.

[Stranger03]

One of the main features of the Russian tank: less weight and lower height. Weight allows you not to get stuck in a swamp, lower height makes the tank less noticeable.

If the new Abrams is the same in size and weight, then there will be one more hippo on the battlefield :)

[cniza]

Armata haunts, everyone is trying to create something, but so far but ...

[Blackmokona]

So Armata is the size of Abrams.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Stranger03

If the new Abrams is the same in size and weight, then there will be one more hippo on the battlefield :)

then Armata will be a mammoth. Armata is larger than Abrams in both length and height ...

[Vend]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

This is not a new tank, but a deep modernization.

Probably as cool as the F-35

[Pecheneg]

I agree. Perhaps the only innovation is the "multi-purpose 120-mm wide-range ammunition that can replace the four types of shells." Everything else is an improvement on old equipment.

[alstr]

Somewhere we already heard. Yeah. He remembered: at the end of the 19th century, we were also put in a single projectile - shrapnel, and then it turned out that for some reason he didn’t pick long-term points.
I think this shitty shell will come out, because, if I understand correctly, the armored and high-explosive shells have a fundamentally different structure. Those. non-dofugas and unbreakable will come out.

[voyaka uh]

"I think this shitty shell will come out" ////

He already is. And it turned out pretty well. This shell does not replace the anti-tank OBPS,
but on lightly armored targets, concrete shelters, it works fine.
first breaks through, and then there is an explosion of explosives (possibly with shrapnel)
inside the space.
Moreover, the shell is programmed for the desired sequence of work right in the barrel.

[core]

the price of this shell is probably prohibitive.

[HERMES]

Quote: core

the price of this shell is probably prohibitive.

The price of the tankers is exorbitant. And the shells "lay down" precisely in the goal of modern tanks as nefig do. There will be not so many losses in the spread.

[alstr]

But the question again is what to do with well-armored targets?
After all, if a universal projectile cannot fight tanks, then another type of ammunition is needed, which means that there is no universalism. You still need two types of ammunition.
By the way, with an ordinary landmine, and so all sorts of APCs and others like them are well struck.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

This is not a new tank, but a deep modernization.

The deep modernization of self-propelled guns, which was created in the 80s ... and the US Army will not receive a NEW tank yet.

[Incvizitor]

Very correctly written the new now-only t 14.

[cost]

Upgrade-do not upgrade, and the afar will not appear from this, the crew will also burn vigorously when the ammunition explodes from a shot from the rear from an RPG, etc. The Germans at least scratched their guns and didn’t pour about one of the most high-tech tanks in the world. But how to add an armor-flap to the fighting compartment of Abrams that flies in after a languid detonation of the BK (burning charges)?

[Ascetic]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

This is not a new tank, but a deep modernization.

According to the plans of the US Department of Defense, M1 Abrams will remain main battle tank american army up to 2035 year So we'll probably see both 5 and 6 versions ... By the way, KAZ will most likely have the Israeli Trophy, which the Americans have been testing since 2014.

[Juborg]

The agony of "Abrams" campaign!

[Lord of the Sith]

M1A2 SEP v3 Abrams seems to have recently begun to upgrade, trying to lighten the total weight by 9 tons, due to the lightened barrel, armor and a new engine.

[210ox]

Once Christie was a trendsetter ... The current "Christie" is catching up. Although this tank is a serious opponent.

[Orionvit]

For reference, the idea of ​​Christie in America itself was not supported, and then he gladly sold it to the USSR. Where our craftsmen are already, brought it to perfection.

[HERMES]

Quote: 210ox

Once Christie was a trendsetter ... The current "Christie" is catching up. Although this tank is a serious opponent.

Purely theoretically - start today "catching up" with the attack by this "scrap metal" - how many chances will Russia have? The situation is similar to 1941 ... but even then there was no such bragging. I am talking about the T-34 and KV tanks. And what did the Germans do with them in 1941? The Germans, who had an order of magnitude more experience (today in their place the Americans) - easily dealt with them.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: HERMES

I'm talking about the T-34 and KV tanks. And what did the Germans do with them in 1941? The Germans, who had an order of magnitude more experience (today in their place the Americans) - easily dealt with them.

stop reading fairy tales at night, and then maybe you will find out that 80% of the losses of the KV and T-34 were not military. If the tank was abandoned without fuel or because of a breakdown, this does not mean that it was destroyed in battle.

[yuriy55]

Why create? When here recently a cheerful American guy in a tank helmet and peakless cap proved the excellent degree of quality of the good old ABRAMS, which famously deals with seven Russian ...
Or did he mean bicycles?

[Приговор]

In general, it will be a modernization. All the same fun Negro loader, the same weight that most bridges in Europe can’t support, all the same 120mm gun ... And the sensors, yes. This thing is good and the "sighting system" is also ..;)))

[kolkulon]

Type 99, what side did you put next to Armata? Or is the KAZ element flying off the go with the balancer flying away on the go?

[user1212]

With its KAZ, Israel will spoil all raspberries

[voyaka uh]

Very possible. They have developed their own KAZs. None
does not stand still.

[Valtsmanyuga]

In Russia, you won’t go far on this, a waste of money.

[nik-karata]

blah, blah, blah, blah ..... and it will weigh under a hundred tons!

[yehat]

I'm wondering how much money the Americans will overspend for the rush and unscheduled project
and how much will not end up in aviation or other buns.

[sabakina]

Interestingly, if you hang on it everything that is listed in the article, how much will it weigh?

The National Interest writes that the car will be equipped with a system of active protection, allowing to identify, track and destroy the approaching enemy ammunition within milliseconds.

Will destroy for milliseconds before contact with the armor?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: sabakina

Will destroy for milliseconds before contact with the armor?

one millisecond is ~ 90 mm. 2 = ~ 180 mm and so on.
Is this not enough to undermine?

[marshes]

And in Russia, instead of the T-90 or T-14, the T-72 will be upgraded to the T-72B3 level.
It is not yet known what years the T-72 will be the main one.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: marshes

And in Russia, instead of the T-90 or T-14, the T-72 will be upgraded to the T-72B3 level.
It is not yet known what years the T-72 will be the main

but! at the same time, we have Armata already in hardware and in tests. so that your bullet is past.

[marshes]

Quote: Olegovi4

but! at the same time, we have Armata already in hardware and in tests. so that your bullet is past.

About five years ago I saw on a satellite channel their development of the tank, of the future. With the same lineup as Armata, though the casing on the barrel, diamond-shaped, surprised. Typically from the radar. So you are not alone with your finger.
So who can measure the device more.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: marshes

So who can measure the device more.

The victory will still be ours without options, because against their cowardly NATA, we have a mighty CSTO with Belarusian partisans, Armenian radio operators, the Tajik construction battalion and the Kazakh-Kyrgyz ambush regiment of motorcycling batyrs.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: marshes

About five years ago I saw on a satellite channel their development of the tank, the future. With the same lineup as Armata,

such a layout back in the 50s was run in by both our and amers, at that time it was recognized as irrational. At the moment, the Americans cannot repeat it - they have not found a replacement for the black man loading the gun. A negro is cheaper than an automatic machine, in case of breakdown it is replaced by a spare one in 2 minutes ...

[Berkut24]

The Americans have already tried three times to create a new tank. and each time it turned out to be a platform for transporting electronic gadgets, then a heavy monster, or still a tank, but at the cost of a new bomber. Money for the development was spent immeasurably.
The trouble with the Americans is that different companies take up the matter and each time go their own way from scratch to a sad result. There is no design school as it is in Russia or Germany in the USA. There are merchants who don’t care what to take and what to rivet for money. What trucks, what tractors, what tanks. There is no permanent KB. It is believed that competent engineers can be outbid at any time. And if someone else is smeared in the Senate and the Pentagon, then it will be possible to put an armored car and put it into service.

[Fei_Wong]

"Pentagon Wars" watched? If not, I advise you to look whole.
In the meantime, an excerpt:

[Berkut24]

I looked. At the same time, I realized how the F-35 universal flying platform was born.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Fei_Wong

In the meantime, an excerpt:

This is not a mistake in voice acting, is it not about the Kurganinets and Armata?

[jonhr]

created and refused due to high cost. exactly as in the Soviet Union. initially the t-90 was in the version with a welded turret and there was a version with a gas turbine engine. refused precisely because of the high cost

[4thParasinok]

Quote: jonhr

created and refused due to high cost. exactly as in the Soviet Union. initially the t-90 was in the version with a welded turret and there was a version with a gas turbine engine.

1. The first version of the T-90 is the T72.
2. With a turbine, this is the T-80, now it has been renamed Oplot.
3. the tower and the rear are cast with small elements welded, and not welded from large parts. But on the model the first tower can even be plywood, but this does not mean that it was designed like that.

[jonhr]

well flashed. at least understanding is what I wrote about, or so the main thing to say? I wrote about the prototype, and not about the serial tank. and imagine there was a prototype with a welded tower of a gas turbine engine, but it was abandoned so expensive

[4thParasinok]

Quote: jonhr

well flashed. at least understanding is what I wrote about, or so the main thing to say? I wrote about the prototype, and not about the serial tank. and imagine there was a prototype with a welded tower of a gas turbine engine, but it was abandoned so expensive

there is a technical task, and there is a break-in of technologies. And do not confuse these concepts.
They abandoned the welded tower back in 1941 on the t-34. The use of breadboard tests for working outboard space and placement of aggregates does not mean that it was originally conceived.
To write about the turbine again?

[jonhr]

I wrote about a prototype that existed in metal. and the prototype is the break-in of technology.
your understanding is bad or what?

[Professor]

The United States intends to create a new tank M1A2 SEP v4 Abrams - fast, well-protected, equipped with new equipment and more effective weapons. Already, American experts call this car just supertank. Meanwhile, the Russian Armata and the Chinese Type 99 tank made the US think about the need for such equipment.
True, according to the American publication The National Interest ...

I started to read. I thought it would be about a new American tank. I reached the National Interest and immediately understood the level of the article. I did not read further.

[Orionvit]

Quote: voyaka uh

lightly armored targets

For lightly armored targets, it is also possible from the forty-five, or even from the grandfather’s anti-tank rifle. They, by definition, have only bulletproof protection, of course you will break out of the tank.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Orionvit

For lightly armored targets, it is also possible from the forty-five, or even from the grandfather’s anti-tank rifle. They, by definition, have only bulletproof protection, of course you will break out of the tank.

Now an easy reservation is not bulletproof, but against artillery systems of small caliber, up to and including 30mm, and its PTR will not take it. It is for such a reservation that modern BMPs are created.

[basil200]

This is the same abrams as a new tank, BAYAN.

[Mentat]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Olegovi4

but! at the same time, we have Armata already in hardware and in tests. so that your bullet is past.

About five years ago I saw on a satellite channel their development of the tank, of the future. With the same lineup as Armata, though the casing on the barrel, diamond-shaped, surprised. Typically from the radar. So you are not alone with your finger.
So who can measure the device more.

Have you looked at the pictures on the fence? It’s not funny to compare computer graphics and plastic cases with a serial product in hardware?

[marshes]

Quote: Mentat

Have you looked at the pictures on the fence? It’s not funny to compare computer graphics and plastic cases with a serial product in hardware?

So he was half the height of Abram, and most importantly, was on the go.

[Shender]

Hello everybody. Comments on this article prompted me to express my humble IMHO. (first time - chesslovo) I do not understand why they treat the T-72 with such irony? In a very shaggy year when I was studying at a tank school, I realized that the T-72 is good, and the Abrams is good but certainly worse. (Peers -))) during the service I was convinced that all of these (T-64; T-80 and maybe others (I didn’t come across other machines) only a DEEP modernization of the old and good URAL tank (for advanced Jewish comrades, there’s not a moment of humor: on the shaggy 95th I was on a business trip at the storage base in Artyomovsk, so the base officers told me that a couple of copper Hundreds of T-34-85 cars were sold to Arab countries. To a reasonable question, why them? What newer cars are not available to the Arabs? I heard in reply - they could afford thirty-four, they say there’s a merkava in the desert who doesn’t even smoke nervously))))

[marshes]

Quote: Shender

Hello everybody. Comments on this article prompted me to express my humble IMHO.

From the fact that you have the Ukrainian flag, you are lucky that the topic has passed, and then quite a few poop would fall out on you.

[Shender]

for what? for the truth?:)

[marshes]

Quote: Shender

for what? for the truth?:)

And for the truth, yes from ensign.

[Kostya Andreev]

You have expressed your opinion. And your opinion can be challenged! But the truth is different and different!
Regarding the flag for. Then a colleague of the swamps scared you! There is a prejudice towards commentators from your country. But it is not based on nothing
For example, what surprises me is that you consider 80 to be a modernization of 72, I think that many will have a question: why? And why is 34 better than merkavu? When you write this you need to explain !!!!

[Shender]

For example, what surprises me is that you consider 80 to be modernization 72

Well, this is my point of view - essentially DEEP MODERNIZATION. I agree with the BOMB engine - especially in a birch tree (though it’s eating a homemade one), optics - yes, but of such gradation (I’ve not felt any fundamental differences between 55-62-72 during the service)))). Conversations about ... well, how is it 72-ka, but it's still hoo 80-ka well, they don’t work either)))) I repeat this is my personal point of view.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Shender

thus, the base officers said that they sold a couple of hundred T-34-85 vehicles to the Arab countries at a copper plant. to a reasonable question, why them? What newer cars do not pocket Arabs? heard in response - it’s affordable thirty-four could afford, they say in the desert Merkava nearby does not even nervously smoke))))

t 34 Arabs ended long before the merkava appeared. what officers told you these inappropriate stories?

[Shender]

on that wash base of storage with my own eyes and saw not such rarities. Therefore, there was no reason to distrust the narrator.

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

what officers told you these inappropriate stories?

but drunken salag and not such a story ...

[ronnon]

120 mm wide-range ammunition.
It's like all seasonal tires, and it wears out quickly in the summer and does not hold horseradish in the winter)

[ikrut]

Quote: ronnon

120 mm wide-range ammunition.
It's like all seasonal tires, and it wears out quickly in the summer and does not hold horseradish in the winter)

I agree with you. The "golden rule of mechanics" has long been known, which states that "community is inversely proportional to power." But there are still enthusiasts who are trying to refute it on their own experience. A striking example is the F-35. But apparently it is not enough. Now here’s a “universal” shell invented. Okay - all-season tires try to “trick” only two specializations (winter and summer). So these military inventors are trying to shove three different by specialization into one plane, and, apparently, four different ones into one projectile. It is very interesting to see what happens at the exit.

[Mentat]

Quote: HERMES

Quote: 210ox

Once Christie was a trendsetter ... The current "Christie" is catching up. Although this tank is a serious opponent.

Purely theoretically - start today to "catch up" with the offensive by this "scrap metal" - how many chances will Russia have?

100% chance of defeating the advancing, if we take an isolated situation of ground-based clashes:
1. Abrams is not intended for our theater.
2. Huge difficulties with logistics for the upcoming.
3. A significant numerical advantage on the side of the defenders.
The Americans will never go on some kind of operation of a massive tank strike, because they perfectly understand what this will turn out for them.

The situation is similar to 1941 ... but even then there was no such bragging. I am talking about the T-34 and KV tanks. And what did the Germans do with them in 1941? The Germans, who had an order of magnitude more experience (today in their place the Americans) - easily dealt with them.

I will not comment on the passage about the Germans, but do the Americans have an order of magnitude more experience in tank battles? You are not a resident of the moon, by chance?
Compared to the Soviet and Russian tank schools, the American experience is simply miserable.
Why are you writing this nonsense?